Polyphia's Tim Henson Responds To "Boomer Bends" Controversy

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  • @nucleusmedicalmedia
    @nucleusmedicalmedia 3 роки тому +2399

    Good stuff. As a boomer, I can say Tim Henson has nothing to apologize for.

    • @alexc656
      @alexc656 3 роки тому +7

      Love your channel. Cool to see you on here.

    • @hler7576
      @hler7576 3 роки тому +93

      It's stupid that anyone got triggered over it in the first place.

    • @justech
      @justech 3 роки тому +30

      Same. As a gen-x guitarist, I love the new style Tim and Scott have helped to pioneer and can also appreciate his sense of humor.

    • @flavorlessdenial8271
      @flavorlessdenial8271 3 роки тому +10

      @@hler7576 Did they tho? I almost felt like he provoked a mass "oh god we do do that, dont we?" kind of reaction xD Almost like it was good that it happened and it made alot of people want to freshen up their sound a little?

    • @DarthD00bius
      @DarthD00bius 3 роки тому +12

      As a gen Xer, I agree with you, but with a touch of dissonance and cynicism and tuned down.

  • @flooptydoo1178
    @flooptydoo1178 3 роки тому +1581

    I once referred to Djent as "millennial mutes." It helped clarify what type of muting I was talking about - no malice.

    • @MoneyBooBoo
      @MoneyBooBoo 3 роки тому +31

      Lol 😂

    • @thedutchdjentleman
      @thedutchdjentleman 3 роки тому +18

      I love it.

    • @TheSkooterbords
      @TheSkooterbords 3 роки тому +4

      That's hilarious!

    • @aaronhall9024
      @aaronhall9024 3 роки тому +49

      Progressive metal heads, or djenters if you prefer, are typically well practiced and humble so none of us will take it personally or cry about it!

    • @athmaid
      @athmaid 3 роки тому +28

      @@Pericles777 prog metal encompasses a lot more than just djent though as far as I know. I mean is Means End djent? I wouldn't say so, but maybe it is to some

  • @Hardiarm
    @Hardiarm 3 роки тому +691

    The love and admiration Rick has for fellow guitarists is palpable. Tim is a hugely impressive young guitarist with a mature perspective. No wonder Rick is a big supporter.

    • @44scoots
      @44scoots 2 роки тому +11

      Ricky is a fantastic interviewer!!!

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 2 роки тому +1

      I love his hair. Silver fox rawr!

    • @JackCarroll1998
      @JackCarroll1998 2 роки тому +2

      He's gotta be one of the most classical musicians out there right now

    • @smprather
      @smprather 2 роки тому

      We need a Rick breakdown of Ego Death!

    • @givemyrepperayshuns1057
      @givemyrepperayshuns1057 2 роки тому +1

      "palpable" 🙄 drama queen

  • @larrywade166
    @larrywade166 2 роки тому +154

    I’m not a huge fan of his band but they are undeniably talented. Dude is an amazing guitarist. Virtuoso type amazing.

    • @jaxvanheerden
      @jaxvanheerden 2 роки тому +4

      That much is true.

    • @vincenzomigliore9749
      @vincenzomigliore9749 Рік тому +6

      Exactly where I’m at. I’m looking and looking for something that I latch onto but I just cannot get into the music. That being said every single member of this band is an absolute master of their craft

    • @cloudbloom
      @cloudbloom Рік тому +3

      @@vincenzomigliore9749 you nailed exactly how I feel as well, I think the EDM beats and trap music influence is the only thing which throws me off from really getting into them. There are some exceptions with songs like Neurotica which I really dig, that said they are all phenomenal musicians in the highest tiers of skill

    • @ProudFilthyCasual
      @ProudFilthyCasual Рік тому +3

      @@cloudbloom One thing I respect though, is those beats are actually played on a real kit, with real drums, as opposed to everything being sampled on drumpads and exclusively looped through laptops. It's not easy, and since it's never the sounds but the prerecorded and general lack of talent necessary in EDM, this changes that for me.

    • @plantain.1739
      @plantain.1739 Рік тому +1

      I've always kinda pondered how people think he comes off as arrogant. I guess it's possible it just comes from the way the band presents itself, but he is like the most passive guitarist I've seen.

  • @EricWeinsteinPhD
    @EricWeinsteinPhD 3 роки тому +505

    There is a reason why big boomer bends is a GREAT controversy. A) it’s actually a huge insight about the changes in popular music when fully unpacked. B) it’s so tight. Just three words. C) we all know he is right at some level. D) Considering the source is one of our leading innovators of the electric guitar this is almost blasphemy from within the church. E) Tim is incredibly sweet about it while threatening the core of blues based guitar.
    I only wish he wouldn’t soften it. It’s such a great thing to argue about because it is about the nature of rock moving beyond the blues and it’s direct influence.

    • @dickmcwienersonIII
      @dickmcwienersonIII 3 роки тому +8

      Not the place to ask, but are you ever bringing back The Portal? It's not even a year since your last episode but it feels like forever. Or just go talk to Sam Harris on his podcast. Me along with I'm sure many others miss your voice.

    • @garysteyn1039
      @garysteyn1039 3 роки тому +35

      Tim Henson doesn't just want to undermine blues guitar playing, he said in an interview with MusicRadar that he wants all "guitar music" to end. Guitars are precocious instruments, and I think Tim realizes how much this limits music. Instead of relying on bends to convey the cathartic emotions underlying blues music, why not find more creative and intentional alternatives through harmony and rhythm? This is the Hip-hop philosophy.
      I like your point (C). I think even Hendrix knew it. Following the B.B. King era, Hendrix represented the beginning of integrating harmonic elements, like double stops, with melody in guitar solos. I believe we are currently witnessing an extension of that idea.

    • @rd3914
      @rd3914 3 роки тому +4

      Wierd seeing u here holã

    • @lazylion420
      @lazylion420 3 роки тому +46

      you lost all credibility with point C... we all know he is right at some level?
      ultimately, the most beautiful thing about music is that there is no such thing as right or wrong, and the moment you begin trying to apply such rules is the moment you forfeit your ability to call yourself an artist... is Tim right? well, Tim might be right for Tim, but Tim is not the omnipotent arbiter of music and there are no immutable laws which apply to music theory

    • @benearhart1224
      @benearhart1224 3 роки тому +16

      Please point out at least on piece of work by Tim that is supposedly threatening anything besides soulless boredom. Something besides a jazz-style technical masturbation session, basically.

  • @-SayWhatAgainMF-
    @-SayWhatAgainMF- 3 роки тому +3340

    "What a handsome and thoughtful young woman" - My Grandma

  • @petebrown3715
    @petebrown3715 3 роки тому +649

    Love the" boomer bends" the "weedly weelie", the "chugga chugga", the "drop D darkness" and the "wiggle stick tricks" as well as being able to play as acurate as a "trip hammer". It's all good.

    • @2k13Ghost
      @2k13Ghost 3 роки тому +10

      Bro can you briefly explain what those mean lmao, I'm new to these new terms

    • @ivan_paul77music
      @ivan_paul77music 3 роки тому +1

      I’m dead….. HAHHAHAHHA

    • @KelticKabukiGirl
      @KelticKabukiGirl 3 роки тому +12

      Again, all GEN X TECHNIQUES!

    • @petebrown3715
      @petebrown3715 3 роки тому

      @@KelticKabukiGirl Guilty as charged sir!

    • @dominicdunn2579
      @dominicdunn2579 3 роки тому

      @@2k13Ghost I'm upset no one has addressed this but I will try once I get home 🖤

  • @ToxicxEternity
    @ToxicxEternity 3 роки тому +425

    I think we can all agree that players in the 70's and 80's defined so much of what is modern day guitar playing and any player who has ever tried to put that "feel" element into their playing knows how tough it is. it's not as simple as learning the blues scale and doing double stops. Great players make those bends give emotion and that's something that I see a lot of younger players respecting a lot. And likewise I love seeing older players get tripped out from the modern day techniques. That mutual respect is guitar playing at it's best!

    • @SpartanLaserCanon
      @SpartanLaserCanon 3 роки тому +6

      I actually like some modern and old players and if I never listened to fusion or Jazz or some modern metal, I might have not even thought of some techniques I now use and like like double picking and those fast little bends like Mike Moreno does. I like many genres, but I think it's even good for some guitarists to even check out genres they don't like for maybe finding some techniques they might like and use. "Feel" is subjective, but I think even with lots of distortion some people could still get feel. One solo that comes to my mind for more distortion feel right away is The Best of Times ending solo, but yeah of course lots of guitar players around before the 2000s making music influenced a lot of guitar players today. I respect how Eddie Van Halen actually inspired many, even some players I like, even though I really like his stuff.

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 3 роки тому +6

      It's more convenient to actually feel what you're playing. Too many people try to pretend

    • @kamasotomonte5043
      @kamasotomonte5043 3 роки тому +3

      Just came here to say i love your covers man 🔥

    • @guitarsolos89
      @guitarsolos89 3 роки тому +8

      Gilmour is a perfect example of emotion and feel rather than showcasing technique. Very unique solos that reflect his path in life, which cant be taught.

    • @aayandadan9340
      @aayandadan9340 3 роки тому +11

      @@guitarsolos89 nah, his bending was amazing, most 'blooz dads' today that play $6000 les pauls can't even bend in tune

  • @Thomas_LB
    @Thomas_LB 2 роки тому +252

    I like how Rick brings in the entirety of Polyphia just to talk to Tim as he asks him to do a tutorial on his own plug-in.

    • @Zirc0nium69
      @Zirc0nium69 2 роки тому +66

      Yeah I feel bad for those guys having to sit there awkwardly while being filmed but its also amusing.
      I vote to rename them "Prince Neck Tattoo And His Humble Moustache Crew". Dude seems cool though.

    • @Ebbagull
      @Ebbagull 2 роки тому +18

      @@Zirc0nium69 😂 I'm gonna think of them as Prince Neck Tattoo and the Mustache Crew from now on 😅

    • @Big_betty2
      @Big_betty2 2 роки тому +18

      I think it was part of a larger interview, and this is just a scene from it. But it is definitely awkward.

    • @Shaumbrahedvig
      @Shaumbrahedvig Рік тому +1

      They also remind me of D’Artagnant and the three musketeers 😂

  • @vinski19
    @vinski19 2 роки тому +66

    Man, Rick's enthusiasm for learning new methods, and taking on new details is infectious. May we all be like Rick. Dismiss nothing.

  • @thoughtsbeforesleep
    @thoughtsbeforesleep 3 роки тому +396

    I think we can all agree that bending is an indispensable aspect of the guitar's expressiveness, especially as opposed to instruments that only play 'straight' notes (like a piano).

    • @Isaiah_McIntosh
      @Isaiah_McIntosh 3 роки тому +30

      It's not about bending anyway. It's about how you bend. Same with pentatonic stuff. It's not the pentatonic scale itself, it's that stereotypical bluesy application of it that we think of when someone says pentatonic stuff which can be pretty corny.

    • @thoughtsbeforesleep
      @thoughtsbeforesleep 3 роки тому +12

      @@Isaiah_McIntosh Yes of course, Tim was just using a colorful term to describe a certain kind of bending technique, but it is obvious he appreciates bending in its various forms.

    • @larryhall2805
      @larryhall2805 3 роки тому +3

      If I remember right, Denny Dias was a notable guitarist who was known for not bending. I need to listen to his solos to verify, but maybe you guys are more familiar with his playing.

    • @davehenry01
      @davehenry01 3 роки тому +2

      @@larryhall2805 Denny yes, hardly bent, played like a bee bopper. Fine guitarist indeed. He had nifty ideas.

    • @juliangonzalez2953
      @juliangonzalez2953 3 роки тому +3

      not indispensable imo.

  • @svarthelikoptern
    @svarthelikoptern 3 роки тому +565

    In essence "boomer bends" is about a generation finding its own voice and I personally find that very healthy. Just a few years ago we were discussing if rock music was dead and now we're essentially discussing what else a guitar can do that hasn't been done and how does the younger generations generate a voice.

    • @JoshBabin
      @JoshBabin 3 роки тому +9

      It was the heavy, still prevalent influence of blues in rock

    • @fr201
      @fr201 3 роки тому +13

      Rick music is still dead. The general population doesn’t know who this kid is.

    • @FelixHureau
      @FelixHureau 3 роки тому +26

      @@fr201 rock influences a shitton of new records, it'll never be "dead"

    • @fr201
      @fr201 3 роки тому +17

      @@FelixHureau I don't mean literally dead, it's just no longer the cultural force it once was. It's a niche genre now.

    • @lazukk3735
      @lazukk3735 3 роки тому +4

      @@fr201 "niche"

  • @HopsHasFun
    @HopsHasFun 3 роки тому +295

    I would buy a "Bend it Like a Boomer" shirt.

    • @martynapalm4950
      @martynapalm4950 3 роки тому +12

      you can get tshirts made with whatever u want printed on ebay etc. I recently got a fuck joe biden one done, looks great.

    • @scruffie777
      @scruffie777 3 роки тому +3

      @@martynapalm4950 Let's go Brandon.😉

    • @iwishiknew10
      @iwishiknew10 3 роки тому +2

      @@guileteemgowitevryteeng1711 lets go brandon

    • @BikePitts
      @BikePitts 3 роки тому

      Shut up and take my money dot gif

    • @martynapalm4950
      @martynapalm4950 3 роки тому +2

      @@guileteemgowitevryteeng1711 If it werent for boomers you would be wearing a german hat 🖕😠🖕

  • @AquaMunkee
    @AquaMunkee 3 роки тому +49

    I’m pretty old school, grew up playing Zeppelin, Hendrix and Van Halen and have been slow to embrace or even listen to new music. When I stumbled upon Polyphia in a Pandora or Spotify mix it blew my mind and I was hooked. Tim is great, and rather than disrespectful he is carrying forward the tradition of his (and our) heroes- “Stand up next to a mountain and chop it down with the edge of your hand.” J. Hendrix 😃

  • @Chase_Jones
    @Chase_Jones 3 роки тому +121

    Hey Rick, if you're ever in the mood to review bands with 80's/70's influence, I highly suggest *awesome* band today called *Fire* *Tiger* ...
    Influences include Survivor, Journey, Heart, The Cure, Van Halen, U2, Laura Brannigan, Jefferson Starship, etc. They've got so many great songs, but I'd start with Energy.

    • @coorsman8795
      @coorsman8795 3 роки тому +32

      When I heard the first bar of Energy, I subscribed. Epic band!!!

    • @Wreckball12
      @Wreckball12 3 роки тому

      check your dm

    • @kevinslaney486
      @kevinslaney486 3 роки тому

      Yawwwnnnn.

    • @johndcoffee632
      @johndcoffee632 3 роки тому +6

      ​Hey everyone! @@kevinslaney486 doesn't like a band! See, nobody cares.

    • @billyperry3059
      @billyperry3059 3 роки тому +1

      @@kevinslaney486 Get thee to a nappery!

  • @VikCain
    @VikCain 3 роки тому +571

    "Boomer bends" is such a surgically precise term that you have to really try to get mad about it.

    • @krokovay.marcell
      @krokovay.marcell 3 роки тому +4

      Well, most of the time, “Boomer” also means “outdated” nowadays. I’m not a boomer, btw:)

    • @telequacker-9529
      @telequacker-9529 3 роки тому +7

      And yet, after watching 2 of his videos with "boomer bends" in the title, I still have no idea what they are. Is it just any bend in general? Is it a large bend? Bending up to a tritone? A quarter tone bend up from a minor third?

    • @johnnycbad
      @johnnycbad 3 роки тому +16

      @@telequacker-9529 It's when bends are used in a certain way. e.g. A whole step bend followed by playing the same note on the adjacent string. It was very common in classic rock songs.
      You can hear Tim mimicking the boomer bend with his voice a few times in this video.

    • @pike666db
      @pike666db 3 роки тому +8

      @@telequacker-9529 what johnnycbad said. Perfect example of boomer bending is the solo in Black Sabbath's Paranoid. The second Tim does "way-neeh, way-neeh, way-neeh" Paranoid is what first comes to mind.

    • @scottkalemusic1406
      @scottkalemusic1406 3 роки тому +6

      @@telequacker-9529 Chuck Berry Bends.

  • @connerthompson5512
    @connerthompson5512 3 роки тому +54

    I can't help but smile any time anyone shouts out Mateus. He's by far been my biggest guitar-inspiration in my life and I think he deserves all the accolades and so much more! Bend on

  • @joeseabreeze
    @joeseabreeze 3 роки тому +334

    Honestly, I think the difference in generations is that the younger generations have the advantage of learning faster and sharing techniques easier due to having the Internet. I'm gen-x, so I had to learn by ear off the record, and new techniques were shared by either taking some lessons in person or learning them off a friend in their basement. Having the Internet to hone your craft is a HUGE advantage! I see young dudes in their teens with the same skills I had to work towards for 15 years haha!

    • @chuckcrunch1
      @chuckcrunch1 3 роки тому +25

      agreed. less than 2 years using the net as a teacher i improved more than the previous 30

    • @GuitarGod666
      @GuitarGod666 3 роки тому +19

      lol, remember having to learn how to tune by ear? I actually had a tuning fork. I don't know how many high e strings I broke tuning up to high.

    • @FURTHER_ADO
      @FURTHER_ADO 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah, as a fellow Gen-Xer i had to listen with big ass headphones on when learning to play. I had this giant cassette/turn table stereo with EQ so i could isolate just the guitar or bass or drums.

    • @benearhart1224
      @benearhart1224 3 роки тому +10

      They still make music today? I have yet to hear anything modern that isn't dismal trash. I do agree with you some some extent. However, your point has just made the awful state of music today even more unbelievable.

    • @megaludek
      @megaludek 3 роки тому +10

      I remember how hyped I was, when a friend showed me how to play pinch harmonics. Before that, I was absolutely convinced that I am missing some effects that were necessary to play those.

  • @jonnyz5772
    @jonnyz5772 3 роки тому +46

    "no one said, you couldn't bend" pretty much sums up a great conversation.

  • @chrismcdermott7766
    @chrismcdermott7766 2 роки тому +9

    There is definitely a distinction between Blues based bending (boomer bends)and what he is doing. Tim and his band are really paying attention to everything around them from video game music to EDM and so much more as well as vocal style bends of classic rock.

  • @dgax65
    @dgax65 3 роки тому +132

    Thank you so much, Rick. I probably would never have heard of Polyphia, Tosin Abasi, or Misha Monsoor had it not been for your channel. You have opened up my musical world.

    • @davidvincent380
      @davidvincent380 2 роки тому +5

      Did you check also Ichika Nito ?

    • @vectred7959
      @vectred7959 2 роки тому

      ^

    • @alwaysabiggafish3305
      @alwaysabiggafish3305 2 роки тому

      3 extremely typical modern guitarists, there's even more Avant Garde musicians out there if you look hard enough ;)

  • @edzielinski
    @edzielinski 3 роки тому +298

    It's fun to see how Rick and Tim are just laughing at this "controversy" and the reactions of the internet. I thought what Tim said about learning the "boomer bends" from classic rock and that being a rite of passage was really interesting. It reminds me of how the greatest players absorb, learn, incorporate and then transcend the techniques and style of those that preceded them.

    • @shashankiyer5751
      @shashankiyer5751 3 роки тому +12

      Wait this actually became a controversy? I only saw people memeing it

    • @noozzoo5152
      @noozzoo5152 3 роки тому +12

      It's a foolish symptom of the internet. I can't care.

    • @dagnisnierlins188
      @dagnisnierlins188 3 роки тому +14

      @@shashankiyer5751 the word boomer is used in a negative context often, so people assumed it was the case this time.

    • @bobbystockerdrums
      @bobbystockerdrums 3 роки тому +1

      @@dagnisnierlins188 It was

    • @shhs1227
      @shhs1227 2 роки тому +2

      @@bobbystockerdrums it literally wasn't rock for brains

  • @hyperbolekid
    @hyperbolekid 3 роки тому +277

    I absolutely love the Boomer Bends term. We need this. Creates more interest in guitar playing across all generations. That benefits all of us! More guitar players = thriving scene = more music with guitar. Win for all of us!

    • @dj_laundry_list
      @dj_laundry_list 3 роки тому +14

      I hope others don't make the same mistake I made in thinking that "boomer bends" meant an old person getting decompression sickness

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 3 роки тому +7

      @@j.d.o5709 I disagree. It is extremely accurate. He's not talking about bends in general, but a particular style of bending that instantly evokes classic rock, hence the boomer bit. I do it a lot, and like the sound, but this is a reminder to not overuse it, because it's been done a lot.
      He's right, there are generational differences in guitar playing.

    • @aidilmubarock5394
      @aidilmubarock5394 3 роки тому +5

      @@j.d.o5709 it refers to old style blues bending that got overused to convey feeling, he just wanted people to be more creative with their bends instead of using the same old stuff

    • @CHlEFFIN
      @CHlEFFIN 2 роки тому

      @@j.d.o5709 100% agreed.

  • @peanutbutterisfu
    @peanutbutterisfu Рік тому +64

    He is an absolute amazing, accomplished, virtuoso guitarist that has been and currently is making fresh new guitar music that has never been done before. If it was 1985 when being a super virtuoso guitarist was what everyone wanted to be, was so popular so widely accepted, everyone wanted to go to shows to see that style of music being played and also people bought albums Tim would be a household name he would be so widely accepted he would be a guitar hero like malmsteen, Steve vai, Eddie Van Halen. In the current time with guitar music not being very popular it’s pretty surprising he and his band are as big as they are but obviously that because of the pure talent and extremely high quality music. Tim is very well respected but man if he was coming up in the 80’s he would be one of the top 5 guitar hero’s of the 80’s, I think most people will kinda understand what I am trying to say.

    • @graveljaw
      @graveljaw Рік тому +2

      Music is extremely temporal and this style would likely not make any sense in the 80s or 90s. Players "like this" back then may have had an album on Shrapnel, but it's unclear if people would be interested in a 60 something yr old playing this way these days. I think Tim is perfectly placed in time.
      Most of what players like this show (yes, there are -many-) is completely composed beforehand. Their development of the language tends to be limited in exchange for composition and performance.
      There's nothing wrong with this. Just a different choice.
      Tim is one of my favorites not just because I like his playing so much, but because he found a voice that managed to break through the noise. That's not an easy thing to do.

    • @selfactualizer2099
      @selfactualizer2099 Рік тому +1

      Everything on the internet has haters
      Responding to them keeps them relevant
      Just say less,
      I've actually learned, it takes more than being a virtuoso to write good music,
      Aw man I could play some immaculent complicated stuff, but what good is it if it doesn't interest anyone?
      Like a random frank zappa song of just noises and guitar solos, people who don't know what's going on won't get it.
      This is why polyphia is actually successful while playing virtuosity
      It has to have the "beat" sound to it. It has to be trendy and modern, (the album covers say this a lot)
      It's like, virtuosic playing, but, with a loss of integrity by trying to use rap or hip hop sounds as a means of being popular,
      I mean, take red hot chili peppers,
      Both the guitarist and the bassist, are separately famous for being amazing virtuosic players,
      But when you go back and look over their music from 2022 back to the 80s,
      You can hear they didn't change their sound or follow any trends through their entire career,
      Even their recently released album has that same feel and energy that they've always had,
      But the thing about Flea an John, they know exactly what *not* to play to give more feel in the song,
      (Knowing what not to play, probably the most important part of playing funk)
      I'm not saying Tim henson is bad or anything,
      I'm not saying beats are bad or anything,
      I'm just saying it's not about virtuosity, but it's also not about "not trying"
      There's some middle ground between your ability and what you're able to explore as an artist
      I want to see artists explore more what "paintings" they can make rather than how complex can they play

    • @graveljaw
      @graveljaw Рік тому

      ​@@selfactualizer2099 Right on.
      Check out Tatran. They could fill the louvre with all of their "paintings."
      What's really interesting is that music like Polyphia seems to represent and express the younger generations so well. The precarity, the sheer volume of information they're exposed to, the pacing of the modern world, its all in there.
      This is one of the reasons I really appreciate their music. It's temporal, its relevant, it's incredibly well executed. Beyond that, it doesn't matter if you like it anymore because it's so damn reflective of the times.
      To me, that is the very definition of art.

    • @speedballbustanutinc.4512
      @speedballbustanutinc.4512 10 місяців тому

      Their music sucks.his tone sucks.
      Digital sucks😅

  • @tethyssurfer
    @tethyssurfer 3 роки тому +7

    I had the pleasure and privilege of watching an intimate concert in the early-mid eighties of
    the " Passion, Grace and Fire" tour of Al Di Meola, John Mclaughlin and Paco De Lucia. The
    opening act was one of my favorite guitarists Steve Morse, as with the main attraction also on acoustic guitar. At the end of the show he was invited to sit-in with the other three for the encores. Four awesome guitar icons side by side trading solos. While Steve Morse could shred like all the others (and the audience knew that) and the others were busy playing "Tumeni Notes" he chose to add tastefull bends to his solos. For every bend he'd get an appreciating cheer from the audience who by then was swamped by all the technicality of the concert. He stole the show!

  • @paulseitz672
    @paulseitz672 3 роки тому +55

    I'm a boomer and yes, we bend. We also laugh at ourselves and are not so precious to break before we bend. I love the comment Tim made during that conversation and I'm also glad that you both got together to clear it up something that is nothing. At least we get to see you both some more. As Tim said with the appropriate tone, you gotta love the internet!

  • @tylerlowery7587
    @tylerlowery7587 3 роки тому +307

    Jerry Cantrell has made an amazing career out of signature bends like this lol

    • @ExpatZ266
      @ExpatZ266 3 роки тому +46

      As did David Gilmour, bends are his thing.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 роки тому +21

      @@ExpatZ266 cantrell is gen x, gilmour is boomer. Sorry, I keep getting mistaken for a boomer at a distance so it's a point with me lol

    • @Hevvvyyy
      @Hevvvyyy 3 роки тому +4

      Also made Black gives way to blue along with duvall inez and kinney which is an amazing album

    • @Roonagu
      @Roonagu 3 роки тому +7

      Well obviously, many people did, if boomers didn't use it, it would be a "classifiable" thing.

    • @ExpatZ266
      @ExpatZ266 3 роки тому +4

      @@russellzauner LOL! I'm GenX too, just appreciate the boomers bends as well as East Bay Ray and Cantrell.

  • @Guitar5986
    @Guitar5986 3 роки тому +276

    I thought it was funny. It's not like he was disrespecting everyone's guitar heroes. The boomer guitar heroes have such a massive degree of influence, fame, and historical significance that the current young guitar players can never hope to achieve. And kudos to these guys for aiming at different sounds/techniques rather than just trying to rehash what has already been done.

    • @mike04574
      @mike04574 3 роки тому +6

      didnt have to use the word boomers. Pretty much all guitarists should learn that in the beginning stages

    • @gerrycrisandy2425
      @gerrycrisandy2425 3 роки тому +10

      @@mike04574 yeah every guitar player should learn how to bend, but I think Tim was referring to repetititve bends you often hear in solos.

    • @chrisking6695
      @chrisking6695 3 роки тому +15

      Why can't the current young guitar players not achieve the same? That's total BS. I get most inspired by current artists. A Jimmy Page or Slash doesn't make me want to pick up my guitar. Maybe. Erica Johnson and Yngwie but that's about it and I'm going on 40.

    • @johnsmith-pw7oj
      @johnsmith-pw7oj 3 роки тому +9

      @@mike04574 to be honest though, that is a very old on going joke, I dont think is a big deal, he is just getting on the boomer/dad guitar joke wagon, guys like nik nocturnal, rudy adobe and the subreddit where guitar players mock other players and stuff make similar if not even more offensive jokes all the time, the dad or blues or now, boomer bends being a very old joke running

    • @gregmize01
      @gregmize01 3 роки тому +2

      Different techniques...like not bending😂😂😂😂😂
      You're a genius!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MrDannyyau
    @MrDannyyau 3 роки тому +67

    I love how all the other polyphia members just sit there wondering about the meaning of life

    • @citizennozmeda7232
      @citizennozmeda7232 3 роки тому +9

      They're stoned

    • @sailsofcharon9224
      @sailsofcharon9224 Рік тому +1

      @@citizennozmeda7232 how would you even know that, do you know them? no, not likely. Sounds like you're just projecting buddy.

    • @avahxnley685
      @avahxnley685 Рік тому +1

      @@sailsofcharon9224 i dont think it was meant with malice, they talk abt it pretty often in most interviews

  • @korosuke1788
    @korosuke1788 2 роки тому +44

    I'm a boomer and though I loved boomer bends, they do get old after a while. What I love the most Polyphia is how different they are!

  • @evangraham4607
    @evangraham4607 3 роки тому +260

    "Boomer bends" to me just equals the blues lol. I think it's a funny and accurate term though.

    • @russellzauner
      @russellzauner 3 роки тому +10

      TIL: the biggest difference between blues and jazz that an idiot like me can tell is that blues abuses tf outta bends and if you find some in jazz they're not only rare but there was probably a specific point being made by the performer.

    • @vayabroder729
      @vayabroder729 3 роки тому +3

      “Blues” lawyers and doctors? 🤣😂

    • @nic0vide0
      @nic0vide0 3 роки тому +2

      100% accurate and funny! I love it

    • @AmirTapir
      @AmirTapir 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah!! As soon as I heard the term "boomer bend", the classic blues bend came to mind hahaha

    • @Strings-jg2to
      @Strings-jg2to 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah that's what I think when I think "boomer bends".

  • @liquidsolids9415
    @liquidsolids9415 3 роки тому +79

    "Bending is cool." - Tim Henson, 2:45 Controversy over!!

    • @lt_johnmcclane
      @lt_johnmcclane 3 роки тому +23

      @@juankplaysmusic you have to try really hard to be offended by what he said. It was a lighthearted jab at the very most

    • @alleygh0st
      @alleygh0st 3 роки тому +1

      Phew...

    • @urcurlydawg932
      @urcurlydawg932 3 роки тому +3

      @@juankplaysmusic gonna cry?

  • @Bramble451
    @Bramble451 3 роки тому +56

    I was so excited when I first saw David Gilmore playing, and saw how important bends are to his distinctive sound.

    • @JosePineda-jn8jk
      @JosePineda-jn8jk 3 роки тому +5

      Well anytime something is good people try and imitate it. Sometimes to it’s own detriment which I think is what he was saying. Puts you in a box rather than being fully expressive anymore.

    • @Bramble451
      @Bramble451 3 роки тому +1

      @@JosePineda-jn8jk Hmm, I didn't get that vibe. He was describing it as just a particular way of playing notes. A tool in the toolbox. A style of playing that he considers to have been common in the '80s. Yes, music styles move on, and those bends might not be used as much, but at the same time he specifically says that he *does* use it, so he obviously feels that it's still got its place!

    • @JosePineda-jn8jk
      @JosePineda-jn8jk 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bramble451 Oh but I’m referring to the original interview where they were discussing different types of ways to push guitar playing forward. He does explain himself here but the context of the original conversation I think is also important. And that is the vibe I got from the original thing which kind of explains why he defends it the way he does here. But even just piggybacking off what you said he uses those things to play a specific style which to me does indicate putting yourself in a box rather than being able to use everything and anything.

  • @fumes1541
    @fumes1541 Рік тому +42

    Don't apologize Tim! I'm older and appreciate the new style you are pioneering!

    • @AD1978leo
      @AD1978leo Рік тому +2

      We should call it Zoomer bends. I'm not a Boomer but the forgotten, Gen X.

    • @fumes1541
      @fumes1541 Рік тому +2

      @@AD1978leo I'm GenX as well

  • @datooch
    @datooch 3 роки тому +96

    I almost bought into the bs everyone was spewing about this kid. I’m happy I didn’t rush to judgment. He’s a good kid and has a very original sound to his playing.

    • @SaumBodhi
      @SaumBodhi 2 роки тому +12

      People were spewing bs? LOL quit those forums.

    • @Strings-jg2to
      @Strings-jg2to 2 роки тому +2

      Really? People were hating?

    • @drew_peabawls13
      @drew_peabawls13 2 роки тому +5

      This "kid" will be 29 yrs old next month, so hardly a kid imo

    • @mr.brenman2132
      @mr.brenman2132 2 роки тому +5

      @@drew_peabawls13 That's a kid to a boomer.

  • @RD-jr8nv
    @RD-jr8nv 3 роки тому +129

    He’s a good dude. People need to chill the f out. I think Boomer bends is hilarious

  • @jasonlieberman4606
    @jasonlieberman4606 3 роки тому +9

    "Controversy" lol.
    The term fits really well because that whole era of guitar playing in popular music was greatly defined by the integration of blues elements, bending being one of the most obvious aspects.

  • @davismiller3769
    @davismiller3769 3 роки тому +69

    I think the issue with "boomer bends" isn't so much the tasteful ones - the issue becomes when people, trying to imitate the playing style of some fantastic guitarists, reduce their style down to "does bends," without understanding the broader context of when or why. It's just a way to describe a really reductive genre trope, the same way people are with "SoundCloud rapper-" is that moniker ever used positively anymore?

    • @sugarnap245
      @sugarnap245 2 роки тому +2

      Spot on man.

    • @blooeagle5118
      @blooeagle5118 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly right, they lack the musical context to why they are bending. I feel a lot of rock and metal guitarists have a hard time remembering that blues and gosple birthed their music

    • @elpeluca7780
      @elpeluca7780 2 роки тому +3

      You guys take this way too seriously

  • @carl_anderson9315
    @carl_anderson9315 2 роки тому +53

    Total respect for Henson. In my opinion, "boomer bends" are just basic bends, in their simplest forms. It's the player who makes the difference. Simple as that. Dimebag was a beast, but his awesome bends are nothing I haven't heard from EVH before. Mateus Asato's bends are tasteful, but they're nothing I haven't heard from David Gilmour before.

  • @mercedesplay_more_kof8488
    @mercedesplay_more_kof8488 2 роки тому +18

    "Boomer bends" is the funniest description for that specific type of bend and I will die on the boomer bend hill if that isn't the greatest fucking description I've ever heard. I am somehow surprised people got mad about it because Tim was clearly just describing that very stereotypical bluesy stuff and not even in a derogative way. It was just a comment trying to place where in time it was most iconic. I'm here for it and I cannot wait for the sequel trilogy, Gen X'pected Drop D, Millennial Djent-ing and the Gen Z Spacebar. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @yuniper1896
    @yuniper1896 3 роки тому +165

    i love how boomers always talk about how the younger generations are so soft yet they're getting so mad over a guy saying "boomer bends"

    • @claytonvolner5950
      @claytonvolner5950 3 роки тому +16

      To true 🤣🤣

    • @Ademirfc
      @Ademirfc 3 роки тому +4

      Hahaha

    • @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma
      @Wolf-Spirit_Alpha-Sigma 3 роки тому +5

      I don't know who really got 'so mad'. I've ready many comments, and most people were trying to understand what did he really mean by that comment - "Did he mean the bends itself, or the style and/or application of them? Or maybe the tendency to overuse them, instead of playing actual interesting and expressive lines?". Things like that. And when asked by Rick, Tim kind of answered that, but mostly he was defensive about it, and needlessly so. As for the younger gens being softer, I'd say that the boomers were already pretty soft and self-indulging as a cohort, and it went downhill from there... Which is understandable, you know, 75 years of peace and prosperity in the West possibly makes each next generation progressively softer.

    • @pedrosantos3712
      @pedrosantos3712 3 роки тому +12

      They aren't, the internet is. Today's internet is people getting offended for other people.

    • @x00p3
      @x00p3 3 роки тому +6

      I'm a boomer and I thought it was hilarious. It makes it even more hilarious if some of them got mad over it! 😂😂

  • @briangrobe9544
    @briangrobe9544 3 роки тому +24

    The band sitting there silently observing Tim and Rick interact reminds me of the scene from Dances with Wolves when Kevin Costner's character is showing the Sioux Indians how to make coffee lol.

  • @xkukubax
    @xkukubax 3 роки тому +82

    I'm calling it: Zoomer sweeps.

    • @jfo3000
      @jfo3000 3 роки тому +4

      Nice

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 3 роки тому +15

      People been sweeping since at least Malmsteen in the 80s though.

    • @yoyomaster989
      @yoyomaster989 3 роки тому +16

      @@DeathBringer769 people have been sweeping since the creation of the broom though

    • @no_hemo5397
      @no_hemo5397 3 роки тому +2

      @@yoyomaster989
      Mom: Can you sweep the floor please, honey?
      Zoomer: Unfortunately, it has no strings.

    • @yoyomaster989
      @yoyomaster989 3 роки тому +2

      @@MedalionDS9 Paleolithic period banging sticks and rocks

  • @KendoSwordsman
    @KendoSwordsman 2 роки тому +17

    I'm not into Polyphia but I can really respect those guys. Tim has some really great chord voicings that he uses and obviously intense chops. Seems like a nice dude as well . They're all fantastic musicians and clearly put a lot of work into their craft.

    • @dominicdunn2579
      @dominicdunn2579 2 роки тому

      His playing is super impressive but what really got me hooked as a fan from the early years was the overall composition of each track. I feel like he has a good ear for writing distinct motifs and let's things breathe and leaves space for each band member/ production styles. Your comment was 2 weeks old so I know you've probably heard their new stuff but would love to hear your opinion on their newest song Ego Death

  • @lchu666
    @lchu666 2 роки тому +29

    Tim is so self aware for someone his age and someone that’s so absurdly talented and frankly that just elevates his greatness. Own the boomer bends, and laugh it off when someone coins the term ‘Henson voicing’ for jazzy rock inversions…

    • @CelticKnight
      @CelticKnight Рік тому +4

      He's older than Hendrix was when he died.

  • @christianbivona8165
    @christianbivona8165 3 роки тому +7

    HIs playing is so interesting, unorthodox , and brilliant. The guy is definitely a notch up the evolutionary chart from us old-ass guitar players.

  • @Markleford
    @Markleford 3 роки тому +16

    Blues guitar technique influenced "classic rock" for so damn long, so the name fits. The thing is, blues bends were adopted by guitarists to imitate blues *vocalists* doing a "blues wail", which is even more expressive when hitting a blue note, in that liminal space between semitones.

  • @roybent4514
    @roybent4514 3 роки тому +138

    As a boomer can I just say: that guy is an insanely great guitarist.

    • @NuOrder11
      @NuOrder11 3 роки тому +2

      Indeed. Dude can play!!!

    • @SpiralDream
      @SpiralDream 3 роки тому +1

      Shame about his music though

    • @JPR17
      @JPR17 2 роки тому +1

      And yet soooooo boring....

  • @armandogallegos7066
    @armandogallegos7066 3 роки тому +5

    Ricks face when Tim hits the guitar head on the table, lmfao. Everyone has been in both seats of that moment for sure, holy hell what an awesome split second moment.

  • @Rockeman182
    @Rockeman182 Рік тому +17

    I still use boomer bends all the time. I find they have great versatility and you can bend different intervals in relation to each other.
    PS: Tim Henson is a monster on guitar.

  • @edelcorrallira
    @edelcorrallira 3 роки тому +20

    Massive respect for Tim and Rick. Watching someone like Tim is very inspiring.
    I also enjoy the humor, it takes a quick wit for those kinds of remarks.
    Gladly adopting the boomer bends terminology :)

  • @lightningstrikes7314
    @lightningstrikes7314 3 роки тому +8

    Jeff Beck was the first player to break the 'Boomer bend' mould with his very square precise 'keytar' like bends in imitation of Jan Hammer mid 70s. Boomers Vai and Satriani built on this in the 80s. Hendrix and Michael Landau are probably the greatest 'Boomer benders' in my book.

  • @MikeM-so3je
    @MikeM-so3je 3 роки тому +43

    If it started this much controversy, then what Tim said was good for discussing the evolution of rock guitar.

    • @aarons3014
      @aarons3014 3 роки тому +7

      @@juankplaysmusic You're spreading negativity all over this comment section. Most of us are trying to have a pleasant conversation. Please consider the possibility that you might be overreacting.

  • @PhilKelley
    @PhilKelley 3 місяці тому

    Nice bonus at the end with the discussion and demonstrations of Tim's plugins. I think we need some videos on ear training to learn how to distinguish various levels of compression, chorus, reverb, gain, etc. Rick, your ability to recognize these things is amazing.

  • @robphillips8351
    @robphillips8351 2 роки тому +13

    Henson's style, technique, and emotion in his phrasing, some mesmerizing stuff! Favorite New guitarist and band, guys are really awesome and absolutely floored at what direction they are taking things in, some really legendary status stuff.. the color's in their music is mind blowing amazing depth... Amazing stuff.. creative beyond creative 👍👍 yeah I suppose I'm a fan 😁 coolest humble musicians around..

  • @mikedawesofficial
    @mikedawesofficial 3 роки тому +31

    Amazing plug-in Tim & Neural DSP ❤️

  • @DennisAlvarezMusic
    @DennisAlvarezMusic 3 роки тому +35

    I previously new nothing about Tim Henson before the "Boomer Bend" thing. However, I plan on checking out Tim and his band. He is obviously a very talented musician, to say the least. The generational take on this subject makes sense. I myself have found myself not liking the way guitarists older than me (I'm 66) vibrato. That really fast wirey vibrato. I can't stand it, but to them, it's just how they play. I prefer the wide, slow vibrato (Mick Ralphs, Brian May). I know, both older than me. I also can't stand fast vocal vibrato either (Stevie Nicks comes to mind). At the end of the day there's no right or wrong. We all need to express it like we feel it. Anyway, my 2 cents worth. :-)

    • @meadish
      @meadish 3 роки тому +3

      Agreed. It's a lot like dialects in many ways, or generation-specific phrases/slang.
      As some people get older, they may get upset over how the younger generation is 'ruining language' and the younger generation in turn mark their identity or "in group" by not using particular features of how old people speak.
      Nothing to get too worried about if one understands that dynamic is constantly ongoing.
      Tim is a great musician.

    • @colinburroughs9871
      @colinburroughs9871 3 роки тому

      Polyphia is technically proficient. Beyond that? It's pompous (extremely) and busy. Not much feel.. all head, little heart. Hearing that one of those guys is the impetus for this generational bickering doesn't surprise me. I'm in the middle on this subject (between generations) and frankly, the old cats have vibe and developed their thing in front of people, after burning a joint, and did it to get laid. The kids now? They developed their thing in front of a laptop, after mom picked them up from lessons, and they did it for ... something to do after eating to much Adderall... The motivations aren't the same, nor are the musical outcomes on a similar plane.

    • @genesises
      @genesises 3 роки тому +10

      @@colinburroughs9871 damn you are beyond judgmental - and you consider yourself in the middle on this subject? impressive

    • @icipher6730
      @icipher6730 3 роки тому +6

      @@colinburroughs9871 Alright, you win. That's the shittiest, the 'hot garbage'-level take on any musical subject I've read on the Internet in a very long time.

    • @colinburroughs9871
      @colinburroughs9871 3 роки тому +1

      @@genesises judgmental? Yeah. But I didn't say I was in the middle on the issue of Polyphia- I said I was in the middle between the 20 somethings and the 70 somethings.

  • @Unibabble
    @Unibabble 3 роки тому +8

    I'm a boomer and I knew EXACTLY what he meant when he said it - I thought that was really funny! This is how I now refer to them myself now - htanks Tim!

  • @M4RCM0NT31R0
    @M4RCM0NT31R0 Рік тому +8

    We need a Polyphia interview video!

  • @AlanKroeger
    @AlanKroeger Рік тому +2

    I am happy to hear this it gives me an opportunity to keep my early boomer playing style fresh. I liked the last video where you talked about the blues disappearing, had not thought of that and me having really started at the beginning of the blues rock craze

  • @ryanmcallister2321
    @ryanmcallister2321 3 роки тому +72

    Why does Tim sound like he's giving a MeToo apology. It's not a big deal lol

    • @jimmycampbell78
      @jimmycampbell78 3 роки тому +14

      I agree but obviously he felt that he had to. “Boomer” is widely used as an ageist insult, unfortunately. There were people who thought he was insulting them and being condescending about the music they like, and the guitar style they like to play.

    • @dickstryker
      @dickstryker 3 роки тому +15

      Because he accidentally called out every guitarist on earth. lol

    • @vayabroder729
      @vayabroder729 3 роки тому +6

      @@jimmycampbell78 it’s only insulting if you let it be. I’m a Boomer and like Rick I’m laughing my ass off...🤣😂

    • @Bubba-zu6yr
      @Bubba-zu6yr 3 роки тому +3

      Gen X here… much ado about nothing. If I’m playing a straight (classical) or jazz bends just aren’t there. Everything else is fair game. The poor kid shouldn’t bow to the mob, especially in a matter as subjective as music.

    • @justinatest9456
      @justinatest9456 3 роки тому +1

      @@jimmycampbell78 Boomer is a slur. It's either slurs for all, or slurs for none. Anything less is unequal. So the boomers get to be offended. I don't see the problem.

  • @sjbechet1111
    @sjbechet1111 3 роки тому +9

    The stats on Spotify confirm, there is a huge increase in interest in the music from the 60's through to the 90's from a demographic in their 20's, there is no reciprocal trend.

    • @johnbrady1211
      @johnbrady1211 3 роки тому +2

      Great observation…

    • @Bonzoso21
      @Bonzoso21 3 роки тому +3

      Could be a valid critique on the music, but also seems like a valid observation that younger people are often actively looking to discover new inspiration while many older people have stopped searching for new inspiration.

    • @philip6502
      @philip6502 3 роки тому +2

      @@Bonzoso21 That's because some of us have found all the inspiration we could need or use.

    • @BensonOfD
      @BensonOfD 3 роки тому +2

      @@philip6502 Nah, it's because it's been scientifically proven that after a certain age your brain actively rejects new music if you haven't already gotten it in the habit of searching for new music. It's just the reality, it's the reason that every generation the older people look down on the younger people's new music. Has nothing to do with quality, has everything to do with old people letting their brains stagnate in terms of actively searching for new music. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing I'll let you decide, doesn't change the fact that it's the truth though.

    • @philip6502
      @philip6502 3 роки тому

      @@BensonOfD I wasn't replying to your post which was in regard to music only, I was replying to another mentioning inspiration.

  • @JB_Eckl
    @JB_Eckl 3 роки тому +21

    I think Tim's original 'boomer bends' comment was hilarious, and it doesn't change the fact that I still love to play 'em, and it is possible too think both of these thoughts at the SAME EXACT TIME

  • @xk2411
    @xk2411 2 роки тому +5

    I love Scottie just trying to find the last fry in the bag when Tim shouts him out.

  • @aprilenorman5031
    @aprilenorman5031 2 роки тому +3

    Wow, I lost my train of thought!! NO one plays and understands music like Tim! Thank you. positivity peace love joy bliss and respect to you all

  • @CoreReactorMusic
    @CoreReactorMusic 3 роки тому +46

    Poor Tim! definitely getting the sense that he feels under attack. It should be easy to tell he was joking if you've watched an interview of his. People gotta stop taking things personally , I play boomer bends all the time and I LOVE the way they sound

    • @nunocarmona
      @nunocarmona 3 роки тому +8

      Agree! This "cancel culture/mentality" is getting insane. Really

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 3 роки тому +5

      Unfortunately hes been attacked a few times for things he's said taken out of context. He did an interview and made a joke and people wanted to burn him at the stake thinking he was serious.

    • @unsanitizedbabywipes6154
      @unsanitizedbabywipes6154 3 роки тому

      He already passed through that kind of critiques years ago.

  • @r.w.5269
    @r.w.5269 3 роки тому +25

    Tim at 1:37, "Let's throw some Boomer Bends in there, let's get it"! Bwahahahahaha!! At 3:34, "Waaangyaaaangwaaangyaannng"! LLLLMAAAOOO! Dude! I'm in tears!!

  • @StevieScotty19
    @StevieScotty19 2 роки тому +6

    Not a big fan of this band,But in all honestly,This boy and his band can play man,Watched a few of there videos,He’s a good kid and outrageously talented,Great interview Rick👍👍

  • @ericv215
    @ericv215 2 роки тому +61

    Henson is gotta be the best guitar player of his generation. Just the way he plays opened up another chapter of guitar. The guy is a genius.

    • @Jagshemasher
      @Jagshemasher 2 роки тому +5

      Checkout Ichika Nito . . .definitely a coin toss

    • @ericv215
      @ericv215 2 роки тому +1

      @@Jagshemasher I have he's amazing as well.

    • @elpeluca7780
      @elpeluca7780 2 роки тому +3

      Didn't know music was a competition lmao

    • @ericv215
      @ericv215 2 роки тому

      @@elpeluca7780 it's not.. never was, however it's impressive the music Henson creates.

    • @BledsoeBluvd
      @BledsoeBluvd 2 роки тому +2

      Plini >

  • @dallasmitchell6999
    @dallasmitchell6999 Рік тому +4

    Watching Tim and Tosin and the modern guitar players like these guys is exciting and terrifying! You think you’re kinda getting a handle on what already exists. Then you hear their stuff and it just really blows your mind as to the evolution of guitar playing and how far they’re taking it now! These guys are like the Bugattis of guitar playing and I’m like a t-model ford lol exciting but scary at the same time!

  • @russell_szabados
    @russell_szabados 3 роки тому +71

    I’m 54 and thought it was funny, I don’t see what the problem is. I’ve been making fun of a certain type of boomer musician - their obsession with Eric Clapton and refusal to acknowledge music after 1980 - since I was in high school. So in my mind, he nailed it.

    • @chnacr2
      @chnacr2 3 роки тому +18

      @@maidenthe80sla They insult pop music for being repetitive, but dare you make a passing comment about how you want to explore beyond the same set of old blues licks and melodies being played over the same 3 chord changes since 100 years.

    • @aayandadan9340
      @aayandadan9340 3 роки тому +8

      @@chnacr2 bUt iT hAs fEeLz aNd tOaNZ

    • @chnacr2
      @chnacr2 3 роки тому +8

      @@aayandadan9340 Feelz = making faces while playing bendy blues licks, and Toanz = playing through low powered vintage pickups with tone knob turned all the way down. That's the only way to play electric guitar. Don't even think about doing anything else.
      Actually I take that back, Toanz of an electric guitar come from tonewood, obviously.

    • @luisnunes3863
      @luisnunes3863 3 роки тому

      @@maidenthe80sla Try Luca Turilli's Rhapsody and the Turilli/ Lione Rhapsody for a really good metal - classical mix.

    • @russell_szabados
      @russell_szabados 3 роки тому +1

      @Maiden the 80's L.A. I feel your pain, I’ve been catching hell for my outspoken views on music and “musical luddites” since I closed the door on classic rock when I was 15. My parents listened to rock at home, and my cousins were teenagers in the 70’s, and they started feeding me Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Aerosmith, David Bowie etc when I was in 1st grade. So by 1982 when I turned 15, I knew just about every major band & song on rock radio and just like you said, I was itching for something new. There was new wave in the US and all these amazing British bands like The Cure, Joy Division, Siouxsie and The Banshees, OMD, Wire…I didn’t need to listen to what later became “classic rock” because it was in my head and I owned a lot of records. So many people don’t get that and take it as a personal attack. I’m glad you responded first, because you & I are on the same page. I still love every band I’ve ever been into, but I have to keep moving forward and exploring new music. There’s so much good stuff out there!

  • @mbmillermo
    @mbmillermo 3 роки тому +34

    The "Boomer Bend" really came from the blues, and in the blues it came from slide guitar. So the string bend was imitating the slide. I suppose the slide was imitating the singing voice. The sliding-bending thing was happening in country music, too. I'm sure Henson is thinking of certain cliché blues-rock licks that are characteristic of the music of the late '60s and early '70s and now might be called "Dad Rock". But kids like that stuff, believe it or not. There was a lot of good music in that era and it's still good.

    • @Paul71H
      @Paul71H 3 роки тому +2

      Yep, lots of kids like that stuff, thankfully. My kids (ages 10 to 17) love music from that era. My 15-year-old plays guitar, bass, drums, and piano, and he loves the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Boston, and plenty of other bands from the '60s and '70s, as well as lots of music from the '80s, '90s, and beyond.

    • @justinatest9456
      @justinatest9456 3 роки тому +4

      FYI Metallica, Nirvana, and Nickelback are dad rock.

    • @caprise-music6722
      @caprise-music6722 3 роки тому +2

      @@justinatest9456 how can you even mention nickelback in the same sentence as nirvana. Not even considering the generational gap

    • @justinatest9456
      @justinatest9456 3 роки тому +1

      @@caprise-music6722 Dad rock don't discriminate. And FYI again, Metallica are the more respected band on that list.

    • @martynapalm4950
      @martynapalm4950 3 роки тому +3

      Also remember the blues harmonica was a necessary bending sound, which the guitar also emulated or vice versa, I love bending the string to how I feel at the time, I never put a title such as "boomer bend" on each bend lol , I just play whats on my mind.

  • @SeniorCharry
    @SeniorCharry 3 роки тому +36

    I'm 28, I also hate when people use the term Boomer due to the internet making it a low IQ response to problems/arguments. It's like when people say "Come on, it's **insert current year**). with that being said, anyone who got angry at Tim for saying Boomer Bends should take a chill pill. It was clearly not said out of hate or ignorance.

    • @freehey629
      @freehey629 3 роки тому +4

      I will say it as a millennial, "you're gay" became socially unacceptable so we moved on to "you're a boomer", but it's the same thing, a derogatory term used to denigrate a group of people.

    • @RD-jr8nv
      @RD-jr8nv 3 роки тому

      @@freehey629 Sticks and stones. Stop crying

    • @freehey629
      @freehey629 3 роки тому

      @@RD-jr8nv that's such a boomer thing to say

    • @justinatest9456
      @justinatest9456 3 роки тому

      @@RD-jr8nv That standard applies to all or it applies to none.

  • @SemvanBlerkGuitar
    @SemvanBlerkGuitar 3 роки тому +43

    I'm a boomer and I had to laugh so hard when he said that. And I knew immediately what he meant. Are there really people who feel offended by it? 😂

    • @dylankempthorne
      @dylankempthorne 2 роки тому +9

      @@j.d.o5709 I dont think thats why hes saying that. People criticize polyphia for playing too fast and not having enough emotion in their music. They're basically saying sorry we dont do boomer bends. Its a response to an insult.

    • @G_Demolished
      @G_Demolished 2 роки тому +15

      @@dylankempthorne They don’t do boomer bends. They do zoomer noodles.

    • @oscriadocomandosancto2898
      @oscriadocomandosancto2898 2 роки тому +1

      @@j.d.o5709 50 iq comment

    • @chelseapoet3664
      @chelseapoet3664 2 роки тому +2

      @G Demolished your comment deserves more likes. If only it were a stand alone comment, it would receive them!

    • @p.i.vanblerk3043
      @p.i.vanblerk3043 2 роки тому +3

      @@j.d.o5709 “boomer bends” means bends played in boomer style. You know, those Eric Clapton and all other guitar players of the 60s and 70s. Led Zeppelin etc. Not all bends. Just like yellow cars doesn’t mean that all cars are yellow lol.
      And he didn’t say that they were wrong or stupid. He said that he doesn’t play them. He’s allowed to that. Just like jazz or blues players can say that about not shredding and not wanting to cos they don’t like it. Opinions are not the same as hating on something. Don’t be offended by opinions.

  • @meyersteamtrucking1641
    @meyersteamtrucking1641 2 роки тому +17

    Im just glad to see young people pushing the limits of guitar and gaining a young audience.

    • @JDWDMC
      @JDWDMC 2 роки тому +3

      Underrated comment. This is incredibly important.

  • @bernardoconnor5512
    @bernardoconnor5512 3 роки тому +57

    Great video as per Rick. Would you ever do a Frank Zappa 'WMTSG' episode ? You need to shed some light on him from your wizard mind.

    • @zman19960
      @zman19960 3 роки тому +1

      Black Napkins or Zoot Alures for sure

    • @O_Alfredo
      @O_Alfredo 3 роки тому +1

      Watermelon in Easter Hay would be interesting

    • @bernardoconnor5512
      @bernardoconnor5512 3 роки тому

      @@zman19960 Or Camarillo Brillo or Night School from Jazz from hell.

    • @BungleJoogie68
      @BungleJoogie68 3 роки тому +1

      Make him do the Black Page. He will quit the show.

    • @dakotaslim
      @dakotaslim 3 роки тому

      Yes, please! Zappa would be fascinating.

  • @themotioncodemarc
    @themotioncodemarc 3 роки тому +5

    I absolutely love where guitar is going. It’s still evolving

  • @Zambelli-Music
    @Zambelli-Music 2 роки тому +3

    "That's a beautiful reverb"
    "Thank you!"
    One of the most musician thing u can say

  • @daryl0063
    @daryl0063 2 роки тому +1

    Rick. You influence me in ways guitarist's can't. Thank you bud. You inspire me to produce my music better. Will be releasing it soon and you are one of the people to thank. Thank you Rick.

  • @timharrington4470
    @timharrington4470 3 роки тому +8

    I had no idea about Tim Henson until I saw him on Everything music, I have nothing but total respect for this guy's creativity.

  • @pancon5
    @pancon5 2 роки тому +8

    Most innovative, unorthodox, and interesting (for my ears) guitarist since the emergence of Satriani and Vai (got to give Buckethead some love too). Tim is unbelievable.

  • @jaskiniamestwa
    @jaskiniamestwa 3 роки тому +55

    Boomer bends - when you can play 2 minute solo on just one note, it's great.

    • @danyroger96
      @danyroger96 3 роки тому +7

      And it would sound way better than any millennial shred!

    • @aayandadan9340
      @aayandadan9340 3 роки тому +34

      @@danyroger96 no lol, shitty, boring blues licks played in the same 4 keys over the same i-iv-v chord progression by old lawyers playing a $6,000 les paul get boring real quick, there's no variation, and I'm saying this as someone who mainly plays the blues and I love stevie ray vaughan, bb king, eric clapton, hendrix, gilmour and jimmy page. the problem is that boomers like to hate on people for 'playing too fast' or 'having no feel' when they're too lazy to improve, if you don't like innovation, just say it, people like you would have hated on jimi if he was born today.

    • @nedjarret5672
      @nedjarret5672 3 роки тому +4

      @@aayandadan9340 " I play blues and like BB King" Well clearly you don't if you have this disdain for "i-iv-v chord progressions" and "old lawyers playing a $6,000 les pauls. "the problem is that boomers like to hate on people for 'playing too fast' or 'having no feel'" Every single one of those players you listed have said the exact or similar things regarding phrasing and feel so I guess they are just "boomers" And every single player you listed learned from those i-iv-v chord progression that you have so much hate for. No you clearly would have been the one who hated Jimi because Jimi liked to jam on 12 bar blues and play "shitty boring blues licks" and played with Acts like Little Richard and Curtis Knight whose repertoire was built on those evil "i-iv-v chord progressions"

    • @MrHan-is1ko
      @MrHan-is1ko 3 роки тому +2

      note is the wrong word buddy. you can bend to 3 different notes at least. what you mean is fret I guess

    • @mjc01
      @mjc01 3 роки тому +1

      @@aayandadan9340 What a strange bitter reply.

  • @hhpoa
    @hhpoa 3 роки тому +11

    As a listener, I would say that bends are a resource that can (or not) be well employed. For example, in the final solo of Hotel California there is a long descending bend in the second guitar solo that is very beautiful and creative and express a strong feeling. It is almost a trade mark ot that extraordinary solo. Even if contemporary music is far away from classic rock, maybe a creative guitar soloist will find places where to put a beautiful bend.

    • @chuckcrunch1
      @chuckcrunch1 3 роки тому +3

      i love that pinch harmonic and bend in the first solo .

    • @fbxurumela
      @fbxurumela 3 роки тому +3

      @@chuckcrunch1 Bends are to guitar what vibrato is to voice. And in both cases I prefer less: less bends, less vibratos. These are resources that should be used with purpose, not as some kind of pyrocthenics.
      My taste always goes to whoever plays and sings the right, exact, clear and clean note. The note the song is asking for

    • @chuckcrunch1
      @chuckcrunch1 3 роки тому

      @@fbxurumela thank you for sharing. i can be down with what your saying . like when it's wrong it's wrong . the particular pinch bent i speak of in Hotel Cal is a bit of pyrotechnics, it also sounds cool and adds something . hay you seem to have a strong opinion about this maybe you could check my channel and tell me if i'm overdoing it with the bends and unnecessary pyrotechnics

    • @ArginArgin
      @ArginArgin 3 роки тому +2

      I know exactly what bend you mean! You mean the DAAAA DAAaa DAaa DAaa Daaa Daa Daa Da Da

    • @hhpoa
      @hhpoa 3 роки тому

      @@ArginArgin Yes!!!😀

  • @BludINFAMOUS
    @BludINFAMOUS 3 роки тому +1

    Jubu is an amazing string stylebender, fluid chordal transitions with bends that boom with the best..

  • @atlantaguitar9689
    @atlantaguitar9689 2 роки тому

    The late great Sonny Sharrock talked about the LA 80s guitar scene in terms of "jugglers" wherein guitarists would juggle between their bag of tricks (e.g. string skipping, sweeping, tapping) to try to distinguish themselves from other guitarists. It was the same with the Bob Bradshaw racks then - guys would say "my settings are different" (when they were just minor variations). Many of Sharrock's observations are valid today particularly with the Instagram guitarists. In any case, inter and intra genre (as well as generational) tension has always been there and one hopes it leads to something interesting which it usually does. Can't say I'm a fan of the rapid "slip-slidey" vibrato but accept that it's part of a new vocabulary.

  • @tonyrapa-tonyrapa
    @tonyrapa-tonyrapa 3 роки тому +6

    What a cool and humble dude... much respect to Tim Henson.

  • @truegret7778
    @truegret7778 2 роки тому +5

    Holy crap, Rick. I learn something new with every video I watch of yours. I had never heard the term "boomer bends", but it makes since (I was born in '58), but it's fitting. What I had learned was players like Tim Henson and Ichika Nito. I have to listen to their work a bit more, but no doubt they are very talented, and that sound is kind of growing on me. One clear distinction in listening to Tim Henson and saying some people get hurt by that term - our generation, the boomer generation, just sucks-it-up and moves on and do not get hung up on the terms. This is great interview, too.

    • @Lefty-Guitar-Enthusiast
      @Lefty-Guitar-Enthusiast 2 роки тому

      Say 'Ok Boomer!" to a Boomer and see how fast they "suck it up and move on". My parents are huge snowflakes. Offended by every thing that is different from 1965

  • @MoreMeRecording
    @MoreMeRecording 3 роки тому +6

    I'm a Boomer and take zero offence to it - like most of my buddies of my generation wouldn't. I think it's a great analogy and hilarious

  • @kickinbackinOC
    @kickinbackinOC 3 роки тому

    Robin Trower "lives" in the bends! Him, Hendrix, SRV, Kenny Wayne Shepard, et al, that funky-blues style of playing "gets it" for me. What can I say...the naked truth...
    Anyhoo, great video! Nice to see the young mister Tim on Beato's channel! Fantastic stuff!

  • @JamesDeanLP
    @JamesDeanLP 10 місяців тому +2

    I had never heard of Tim Henson before that comment and now I’m a huge polyphia fan.
    I would argue this is a net positive.

  • @IsaiahStewartJazz
    @IsaiahStewartJazz 3 роки тому +12

    Hahaha, as a child of the 70s and lifelong lover of boomer bends I appreciate Tim's humorous generational observations re classic rock guitar riffing. He's right. Boomer bends immediately defines a technique and sound. Tim's is in a class all his own 🎸 🤘

  • @zynosgd9982
    @zynosgd9982 3 роки тому +9

    People are so upset and this guy's literally: "boomers exist, and so do bends, why you crying?"

  • @richarddoan9172
    @richarddoan9172 3 роки тому +7

    "How can I express emotion without bends?" Too funny. But there may be an interesting point here. Popular music has constant volume, and electric guitar is mostly played with constant volume, so articulation is the primary way to affect expression with a single note. Most classical instrumets also effect expression with dynamics. The harpsichord only has one volume and one articulation, so it can't do either.

    • @jedinxf7
      @jedinxf7 3 роки тому +1

      which forces a harpsichordist to use time as the primary mode of expression.

    • @citizennozmeda7232
      @citizennozmeda7232 3 роки тому

      I forget the musical term but you add volume by adding layers of notes.

  • @someshkadam2441
    @someshkadam2441 2 роки тому +1

    One Clay wore Bathory tee and another Clay wore Rush one.
    Those are one of my favourite bands, man!!❤

  • @Tjtellsthetruth
    @Tjtellsthetruth Рік тому +1

    The funniest thing is I took the same path as Tim Henson by learning Blues, Classic rock studying the greats mastering that style, then I got into emo music, and that progressed into death metal. But from there I took elements of those styles and incorporated into my playing. I then took elements of jazz, fusion and the world of music was my oyster. Taking the Bruce Lee approach to music and style, take what works for you, removed what doesn't and you end up with something that is both defined and unique.

  • @64bruceb
    @64bruceb 3 роки тому +51

    It's sad that someone would take this personal and get worked up over it. I'm a boomer, I love bends of all kinds and I thought it was hysterical.

  • @thegee-tahguy4877
    @thegee-tahguy4877 3 роки тому +7

    Henson is a true monster internet player. He has shown us the way. With nothing but utmost respect, I believe others will be taking his genre to the next level from this point forward. You may want to put your seat belts on!

    • @amostlyreasonableguy
      @amostlyreasonableguy 2 роки тому

      He’s only 28 I think he’ll keep it fresh for quite a while.

  • @jonarnaldo
    @jonarnaldo 3 роки тому +4

    Was I the only one cracking up when Tim pans to Scott, the 'future of bends', casually stuffing his face with chips?

    • @zknarc
      @zknarc 3 роки тому

      No, this was possibly the best part of the entire clip

  • @kindface
    @kindface 10 місяців тому +1

    Noticed how Tim said "someone who played .... long before I was born" which sounds so properly respectful instead of "someone who played 30 years ago". He actually sounded a bit tentative as he strung those words together but still pulled it off like it was spontaneous. It's why the guy is such a marketing genius too....his sensibilities just puts everyone around him at ease, nothing about him offends.

  • @jakobjorgensen7773
    @jakobjorgensen7773 2 роки тому +1

    Straight on -love the interview! Do one with Mario Camarena from Chon too - that guy is amazing ;)