For me the seats in the BMW i3 were nice and high so much easier to get in and out of. A real winner for me at 80yrs. All other evs have considerably lower seats.
I’ve been using the first generation i3 since 2015, range is not an issue, I do a maximum of 50 miles of driving in a day and most of the time I only use half the battery per day, that’s on a car with an 80 mile range full charge. What I would like to see more of in the EV reviews is talk about efficiency, it’s all well and good saying this EV does 300 miles, that EV only does 150 miles on a single charge, great, but I and many others won’t ever need that on a daily basis. And you have to think okay, we are now driving around 400+ Kg of lithium cells we will never use, pushing efficiency right down, just to please the people who haven’t lived with an EV and still worry about range. At some stage if the battery energy density goes up higher I think they should offer an i3 with around 150 miles of range but less lithium cell weight than the first generation i3, pushing even more toward a hyper efficient EV.
The battery does not weigh 400kg but closer to 200. The difference in weight between the 3 batteries from the lightest to the heaviest is 70kg. The car would not be hyper-efficient as you say because it is lighter, it is the aerodynamics that affects the most (even in the city it is very important) and it is not very good at it. People need big batteries even if they don't use their full range, because bigger batteries last longer. It is not the same that in 500km you have spent 3 life cycles (3 charges) than only 1 cycle (one charge) knowing that batteries have limited useful life cycles.
I’ve owned a second hand i3 for about 2 months. It was a toss up between this and a new Nissan Leaf. The Nissan Leaf pretty much beats the i3 on every metric except for one thing: fun. The i3 is really fun to drive and I love the funky design.
Can't argue with that . Got mine for £21k ....6months old , 6,000miles on clock. 2 years on have saved £6k in fuel - so essentially a nearly new BMW mini car for £15K. If I keep for another 5 years teh fuel I save makes it essentially a nearly new BMW for free !
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I own my i3 2018 94 ah , its lovely to drive in İstanbul, such a metropolitan city with full of traffic jam and noise. I feel ilke I watch all the other cars from tv, muted with remoter😄
only issue is the front trunk is not water or weather proof so really it is not a good idea and even BMW if if they are honest would tell you not to really keep them long term in the front area unless they are in a fully waterproof bag
@@marklola12 funny thing is when you are using them outside it's not exactly waterproof outside either they are made of plastic copper and brass nothing that will be affected by moisture.
Good review but a few corrections......No battery in the boot, cells are under floor. Cable storage in the frank. I3S is visibly faster 0-50mph than the latest M3. But bang on point with driving dynamics being very engaging and fun.
in several places in Europe you can upgrade the Bmw i3 battery but in my opinion the best is impexneth from the Netherlands and they have original 120ah Bmw batteries, not foldable and the price is around 6000 eur
I have just bought a 2019 i3 42Kwh and have just performed a long range test at 10-17C. I started with 100% battery and a predicted range of 158miles on the GOM. I have driven hybrids now for 12 years and I am aware what a light pedal foot has on economy. So off we set on the 84 mile trip with a mix of motorway (60%) A road (40%) . Outbound heading for the coast there's more negative gradients but it will all level up on the return. As this is a max range test I put the car in Eco PRO and turn off the heating/cooling. I get between 10 - 22Kwh/100Km and a light foot also mean that I see quite a bit of regen. When I arrived at my destination I had a GOM range left of ! 130 Miles (84 + 130) = 214 miles. I charge to 100% again and then on the return when I arrived home the GOM said 100 miles so a return range of 184 miles. I expect these ranges to drop by switching to Comfort and adding some heating however even if these settings suck 20 miles of range that's still 194 and 168 miles so taking the worst case 168miles that's very close to what BMW expect this car to achieve and by switching to ECO PRO 180 is also possible for most of the year and for most journeys. Remember my home journey was full of positive gradients to reach the destination at 333m. So with this I have confidence this car can easily achieve its 160 mile range as quoted under these temps which in the UK is pretty standard. I am well impressed with this car it drives likes its on rails and accelerates like a rocket. :-)
Just ordered one from stock over a week ago, new model with £3.5k off with government grant, another £3.3k off through dealer, and 6 years 0% finance. Zappi wall charger being fitted with £800 allowance so I will be able to use solar to charge it at home and most charge points in Scotland are free after £20 annual fee so reckon I will be able to use this all year for virtually nothing. And yes there is storage space up front for the charge cables, bought the the box from BMW on their eBay store and can also use dry bag to keep cables away from moisture. And my car is listed as being supplied with Type 2 charge cable and in any case BMW dealers are selling them on eBay for around £125 mark.
@@RM-iu6mm www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/bmw/bmw-i3-range-extender-2017-long-term-test-review/ There is. Not big or even waterproof but fine for cables
I carry both my cables (granny and type 2) and the toolkit in the front boot/frunk - that is what it is designed for. I agree that some of the other comments are biased and factually incorrect.
@@clasqm you can only do that if you have not opted for the heat pump plus using that will invalidate your warranty it is not a BMW approved part also a lot of money for a little bit of space
The i3 efficiency is often overlooked. Another post here covers this, but everyone looking at EV's focus on range and power (for the guys that talked their wife into the Tesla just for that 0-60 in 3 second rush). In fact, battery size is never a free ride, it's still physics. Bigger battery costs more to charge, takes longer, weighs more and makes the car heavier and slower. This in turn cuts range and acceleration from the theoretical gain of the battery kWh alone, plus wears tires faster. The i3 was a "ground-up" design that took weight and battery size into account to optimize range and performance by getting the most from a relatively small battery in light, nimble car. Carbon body, alloy frame, plastic body panels permits smaller batteries, tires, etc., while still giving good performance and decent range.
Limited space, range, and to a lesser extent the lack of Android Auto, make the i3 a no-go for my family. But I'll grant the interior looks excellent and would definitely like to get into one for a play and the driving experience. Purchased used for someone who doesn't carry a lot, the i3 could be a steal.
In Norway there are chargers everywhere, no one needs a compartment specifically for cables. There are plenty of fast chargers as well, privately owned companies have invested in chargers at work and the government has chargers everywhere. The issue is not the compartment, the issue is poor battery combined with few options for charging, start there.:> PS: It's turn radius, not turn circle.:P
My 2018 94ah i3 came supplied with a type 2 public charging cable for free, I put my cables, free tyre pump, warning triangle and wheel nut remover in the front trunk (which you failed to notice exists). My 7kW Home Charger cost £149, not the claimed £400. Perhaps a little more research required before recording the video?
The 2019 42kw i3 197miles a charge, the i3 2018 94rex 211 miles combined now that’s progress. Bmw should have allowed the Rex in Europe or are they intentionally scupper sales in an attempt to boost sales for the mini e which will use the same pack and Rex
2:03 There are no batteries under there, neither in the i3 nor in any other electric vehicle out there. There's the motor, charger, and inverter. The batteries go on the ground, between the 4 wheels.
0-60 7s hot hatch?! That was 10y ago :)) However, it is really quick in town, it feels nice maybe looses second from 80-100kph. Plus since it’s electric it accelerates efortlessly. It feels faster than a 6seconds car, up to 40mph
@@millepun 35000 USD before VAT??? Yeah right. Ever heard of import tariffs? Probably, because you applied it on the BMW. Here's a hint: we don't have to pay import tariffs on the BMW. We do on the Tesla. Anyway, if you want to discuss European prices, talk in Euros and include VAT. The BMW i3 starts at €41.995 The Tesla model 3 standard range is not available yet but will be later this year and will cost €43.500 (estimated). The Standard range plus is available for €48.818 So the Tesla model 3 is more expensive than the BMW i3. In Europe. Edit: prices above are using Dutch VAT of 21%. In Germany VAT is 19% so all mentioned prices are slightly lower.
I'm Aussie where most of us live in a city but we need to travel 1000's of km when going bush. How fast will the petrol backup go when batteries die? Why not incorporate a solar array in the roof?
There actually is no proper lane keeping assist available in the i3. They only offer a traffic jam assist for speeds up to 60 km/h which actually is rather annoying as you need to hold the steering wheel every 7 seconds. And the adaptive cruise control does not work half of the time. If the sun is too low, when it rains, when it snows or sometimes when it simply does not want to work. Unfortunately no comparison to radar based systems. I still like the car as it's quick, nice to drive and quite efficient. And I like the design. And of course the charging cables fit perfectly in the frunk. BMW offers a watertight bag which fits in there nicely. However they should have made the compartment waterproof in the first place .
The i3 generation is an electric vehicle with a long range and outstanding battery life. However, I believe BMW should focus further on design and appearance.
Does it have a passive battery cooling or the active battery cooling? I live in a hot climate and battery degradation is a problem on passive or air cooled battery systems. Also, how is the reliability?
I haven't personally heard of anybody having a problem with the battery only heard of one problem with the bms computer going a couple of onboard charger issues and a hand full of problems with the locking mechanism of the charge port but that would have probably been sorted with a little bit of Greece on the latch if been sorted out of the warranty. I wouldn't worry
Batteries are under the passenger compartment within the wheelbase. Range can be 200 miles under favourable conditions, I say as a 120 Ah owner, eg: drive gently, or turn off the air con which consumes a lot of battery power.
In times where the minimum battery offered is around 60 kWh even in a Renault or Hyundai, it is difficult to sell 40 kWh and ask for a premium price. BMW needs to upgrade very very quickly and offer a battery upgrade to existing customers
@@markp9985 The fuel capacity is a little low and it could be more synchronized with the motor to get good dual use for longer trips. It's discontinued because of stupid EV "regulations", because both the EU and the US thinks it shouldn't get the EV subsidies if the REx is too capable. When in fact it's the EV subsidies that shouldn't exist and they should let good ideas like this get more popular.
F G Our planet has far too few rare metals 🤷♂️for mass conversion to e-cars - Normal petrol ‼️car is 120 times 🤢 more efficient than e-car - "The only real fuel of the future 💰 is called hydrogen" - Jörg Wellnitz, a professor at the Technical University of Ingolstadt with a professorship in Melbourne, drives one himself, but is anything but a fan 💸💸💸 of the concept. On the contrary, according to Wellnitz, the later mandatory switch to e-cars is a big scam that serves only one purpose: the car manufacturers want to use this to calculate the combined emissions of their models 'clean', so as not to have to pay the 💰💸💸💸 billions of fines announced by the EU. The customer is just a side issue. Moreover, an ordinary gasoline car is still 120 x more energy efficient ‼️ than an electric one. The extraction of lithium (Chile) and cobalt (central Africa) is already causing extreme environmental damage in these countries, and is also accompanied by child labor. Wellnitz: "If Audi would only build its A4 series electrically, they would have to buy half the world market for cobalt."
Downright Dutch: you are not very well informed. Just observe the future as it unfolds. It will be rather painful for you as you will be proven wrong every day.
The skiny tires do not improve rolling resistance, it slightly reduces it. However, the skiny tires have a large diameter and that has more impact on reducing RR. These tires are also good for snow, especially since it’s RWD and it’s good it has a bit more weight to the back so it should handle snow pretty well. Larger diameter improves grip as well. But a bit wider tires woul’ve been fun. With these large diameter wheels wider tires would mean a lot more weight. So not sure what’s the best solution. Perhaps a bit smaller and 30%wider or like on the i3s ?!
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You would have to be completely insane to buy one of these new. They deprecate at an unbelievable rate. That is good news if you want a used one. Truecar will give you a good idea as to value.
Well that's it then, I'm insane. But at the time I bought my I had to wait for the bigger battery and also could spec all the things that I would need as this was my first car and will be the last one. Things like comfort access I thought a complete waste of money. It is not as if you can wave your foot under the tailgate and it open for you. I can easy feel in my pocket and press the unlock, without needing to look. Also mine was provided with the python cable.
Thanks, a good review, but not for me, I chose the Kia for bigger range, more standard kit, larger, and not being a BMW. Lane keep assist would be a nightmare for a BMW driver as you have to signal when you change lane or the car objects.
The led headlights on this are eyeball burning. My neighbour has this and they are really annoying lights. When driving behind me I have to turn all mirrors away. No other high powered car even does this,its not just annoying but damgerous how bright they are.
Oh no too many mistakes for it to be a carwow review she could not even be bothered to tell us that the car is made of carbon fiber-reinforced plastic and aluminium and that is the reason why it cost so much. I mean find a car that is less than 100k with a carbon fibre tub
I love the i3, but like so many people I’m just not of a fan of that interior... I think the outside looks awesome but the inside in my opinion looks very undesirable and doesn’t match the sporty ness of the car... if they made the interior look a little more like the i8 or even one of the regular gasoline cars like the 3 series it would look great. But that old looking steering wheel and putting the gear shifter up top instead of something more traditional like the i8 is just not working for me and even though the the i8 is not fully electric there are plenty of electric cars with more normal gear shifts...those seats are cool though about the only thing I like about the interior and the Sunroof is a nice touch
Why in the name of God will I ever spend £35,000 on a car that has 130 miles range it's small boot is meh... BMW you're out of the game, Tesla model 3 is way to go...
For me the seats in the BMW i3 were nice and high so much easier to get in and out of. A real winner for me at 80yrs. All other evs have considerably lower seats.
I’ve been using the first generation i3 since 2015, range is not an issue, I do a maximum of 50 miles of driving in a day and most of the time I only use half the battery per day, that’s on a car with an 80 mile range full charge.
What I would like to see more of in the EV reviews is talk about efficiency, it’s all well and good saying this EV does 300 miles, that EV only does 150 miles on a single charge, great, but I and many others won’t ever need that on a daily basis.
And you have to think okay, we are now driving around 400+ Kg of lithium cells we will never use, pushing efficiency right down, just to please the people who haven’t lived with an EV and still worry about range.
At some stage if the battery energy density goes up higher I think they should offer an i3 with around 150 miles of range but less lithium cell weight than the first generation i3, pushing even more toward a hyper efficient EV.
The battery does not weigh 400kg but closer to 200.
The difference in weight between the 3 batteries from the lightest to the heaviest is 70kg.
The car would not be hyper-efficient as you say because it is lighter, it is the aerodynamics that affects the most (even in the city it is very important) and it is not very good at it.
People need big batteries even if they don't use their full range, because bigger batteries last longer.
It is not the same that in 500km you have spent 3 life cycles (3 charges) than only 1 cycle (one charge) knowing that batteries have limited useful life cycles.
I’ve owned a second hand i3 for about 2 months. It was a toss up between this and a new Nissan Leaf.
The Nissan Leaf pretty much beats the i3 on every metric except for one thing: fun. The i3 is really fun to drive and I love the funky design.
I strongly disagree, I've had 2 leafs, an i3 and i3s, the i3 is better than the leaf on every metric apart from space.
Leaf is slower by far.
Ride of i3 is better
Sound system of i3 is better
leaf beats the i3 by droves in terms of functionality. Huge boot and loads of room in the back. Every other aspect i3 has it.
A Second Hand i3 is a good entry level EV . Quality finishes ,the visibility and Its FUN to drive .
I can only recommend this vehicle.
Can't argue with that . Got mine for £21k ....6months old , 6,000miles on clock. 2 years on have saved £6k in fuel - so essentially a nearly new BMW mini car for £15K. If I keep for another 5 years teh fuel I save makes it essentially a nearly new BMW for free !
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The charge cables fit nicely in the frunk.
That's where I keep mine.
Careful though the frunk is not waterproof!
It's literally what it's designed for, so many facts incorrect or overloooked in this video..
I think he means boot.
I'm so envious of you guys who own these magnificent cars. I may never be able to afford one and that makes me very sad.
I own my i3 2018 94 ah , its lovely to drive in İstanbul, such a metropolitan city with full of traffic jam and noise. I feel ilke I watch all the other cars from tv, muted with remoter😄
pretty sure the batteries are under the floor, not under the boot, that's where the motor is (and the range extender if you have it)
Anybody else screaming charge cables go in the front at their screen?
Beat me to it.
only issue is the front trunk is not water or weather proof so really it is not a good idea and even BMW if if they are honest would tell you not to really keep them long term in the front area unless they are in a fully waterproof bag
@@marklola12 funny thing is when you are using them outside it's not exactly waterproof outside either they are made of plastic copper and brass nothing that will be affected by moisture.
YES YES SO COOL JUST WHERE YOU WANT THEM
yuuuup!
We are a family of 4 (full sized kids) with two miniature schnauzers. Space isn’t a problem in our i3.
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Good review but a few corrections......No battery in the boot, cells are under floor. Cable storage in the frank. I3S is visibly faster 0-50mph than the latest M3.
But bang on point with driving dynamics being very engaging and fun.
I don't find the "hardness" of the suspension to be a problem, I quite like it. The i3 is a totally wonderful car!
in several places in Europe you can upgrade the Bmw i3 battery but in my opinion the best is impexneth from the Netherlands and they have original 120ah Bmw batteries, not foldable and the price is around 6000 eur
I have just bought a 2019 i3 42Kwh and have just performed a long range test at 10-17C. I started with 100% battery and a predicted range of 158miles on the GOM. I have driven hybrids now for 12 years and I am aware what a light pedal foot has on economy. So off we set on the 84 mile trip with a mix of motorway (60%) A road (40%) . Outbound heading for the coast there's more negative gradients but it will all level up on the return. As this is a max range test I put the car in Eco PRO and turn off the heating/cooling. I get between 10 - 22Kwh/100Km and a light foot also mean that I see quite a bit of regen. When I arrived at my destination I had a GOM range left of ! 130 Miles (84 + 130) = 214 miles.
I charge to 100% again and then on the return when I arrived home the GOM said 100 miles so a return range of 184 miles. I expect these ranges to drop by switching to Comfort and adding some heating however even if these settings suck 20 miles of range that's still 194 and 168 miles so taking the worst case 168miles that's very close to what BMW expect this car to achieve and by switching to ECO PRO 180 is also possible for most of the year and for most journeys. Remember my home journey was full of positive gradients to reach the destination at 333m.
So with this I have confidence this car can easily achieve its 160 mile range as quoted under these temps which in the UK is pretty standard. I am well impressed with this car it drives likes its on rails and accelerates like a rocket. :-)
A used 2017+ i3 is an amazing value right now, with prices under $20K USD.
Prices not nearly as attractive currently. Wonder when they'll modulate.
Used to have a great Toyota iQ, and this is bigger! The i3, has a 260 litre boot, the Gold GTE had 273 litre. Not that much smaller
Really smooth car. Very impressive. Looks a wee bit weird but never mind.
Just ordered one from stock over a week ago, new model with £3.5k off with government grant, another £3.3k off through dealer, and 6 years 0% finance. Zappi wall charger being fitted with £800 allowance so I will be able to use solar to charge it at home and most charge points in Scotland are free after £20 annual fee so reckon I will be able to use this all year for virtually nothing. And yes there is storage space up front for the charge cables, bought the the box from BMW on their eBay store and can also use dry bag to keep cables away from moisture. And my car is listed as being supplied with Type 2 charge cable and in any case BMW dealers are selling them on eBay for around £125 mark.
Or just put the cables in the frunk?
There isn’t one in the i3 🙁
@@RM-iu6mm www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/long-term-tests/bmw/bmw-i3-range-extender-2017-long-term-test-review/
There is. Not big or even waterproof but fine for cables
R M of cause there is one - especially for the cables 😜
@@RM-iu6mm There is and its specifically for cables, many facts incorrect or overlooked in this video.
I carry both my cables (granny and type 2) and the toolkit in the front boot/frunk - that is what it is designed for.
I agree that some of the other comments are biased and factually incorrect.
The type 2 public charge cable is £165, not £300. And it’s usually offered FOC with the i3 anyway
And there are no batteries under the boot floor
Correct. That's where the REX fits in. if you don't have a REX, here's how to make use of that empty space: ua-cam.com/video/VReyTDa5uGg/v-deo.html
@@clasqm you can only do that if you have not opted for the heat pump plus using that will invalidate your warranty it is not a BMW approved part also a lot of money for a little bit of space
Please add metric conversions in the future. Thank you!
Now that Boris is in charge, metric will soon be rolled back and then banned.
The i3 efficiency is often overlooked. Another post here covers this, but everyone looking at EV's focus on range and power (for the guys that talked their wife into the Tesla just for that 0-60 in 3 second rush). In fact, battery size is never a free ride, it's still physics. Bigger battery costs more to charge, takes longer, weighs more and makes the car heavier and slower. This in turn cuts range and acceleration from the theoretical gain of the battery kWh alone, plus wears tires faster. The i3 was a "ground-up" design that took weight and battery size into account to optimize range and performance by getting the most from a relatively small battery in light, nimble car. Carbon body, alloy frame, plastic body panels permits smaller batteries, tires, etc., while still giving good performance and decent range.
Limited space, range, and to a lesser extent the lack of Android Auto, make the i3 a no-go for my family. But I'll grant the interior looks excellent and would definitely like to get into one for a play and the driving experience. Purchased used for someone who doesn't carry a lot, the i3 could be a steal.
Thank you. Great review. A real world review, that’s what I want. 👏👏
Logo looks suspiciously like the fully charged logo....
With REX I like the i3 a lot, but the new Honda is also promising.
Drove a Tesla Model S100D last year, pffff, that is quick!
In Norway there are chargers everywhere, no one needs a compartment specifically for cables.
There are plenty of fast chargers as well, privately owned companies have invested in chargers at work and the government has chargers everywhere.
The issue is not the compartment, the issue is poor battery combined with few options for charging, start there.:>
PS: It's turn radius, not turn circle.:P
My 2018 94ah i3 came supplied with a type 2 public charging cable for free, I put my cables, free tyre pump, warning triangle and wheel nut remover in the front trunk (which you failed to notice exists). My 7kW Home Charger cost £149, not the claimed £400. Perhaps a little more research required before recording the video?
Fuel/plug door has a cap retainer, as all bmws, let's the cap drop against the paint - twice. Visigoth
Already ICONIC
The 2019 42kw i3 197miles a charge, the i3 2018 94rex 211 miles combined now that’s progress. Bmw should have allowed the Rex in Europe or are they intentionally scupper sales in an attempt to boost sales for the mini e which will use the same pack and Rex
I agree; no petrol or servicing for nearly the same range is definitely progress!
Does the music get loud in this car ??
...my next car - so much fun to drive 🎉 and of cause I will use the frunk for the cables 😜
2:03 There are no batteries under there, neither in the i3 nor in any other electric vehicle out there.
There's the motor, charger, and inverter.
The batteries go on the ground, between the 4 wheels.
Charging cable i put in front trunk. 👍
Did she do a double U turn?
0-60 7s hot hatch?! That was 10y ago :))
However, it is really quick in town, it feels nice maybe looses second from 80-100kph. Plus since it’s electric it accelerates efortlessly. It feels faster than a 6seconds car, up to 40mph
Thanks, will go for Model 3 at this price range. Range, performance and fun :p
And no more service soon lel 🌚
ICHDERTWEETY
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BMW? No idea
Tesla service is great here (had the model S for 4 years), responsive, proactive
model 3 is better but it isn't this price. it's more expensive
Mark Perrin model 3 start at USD 35000 (before VAT in Europe), and BMW i3 seems start at around USD45000?
Model 3 even cheaper before tax!
@@millepun 35000 USD before VAT??? Yeah right. Ever heard of import tariffs? Probably, because you applied it on the BMW. Here's a hint: we don't have to pay import tariffs on the BMW. We do on the Tesla.
Anyway, if you want to discuss European prices, talk in Euros and include VAT.
The BMW i3 starts at €41.995 The Tesla model 3 standard range is not available yet but will be later this year and will cost €43.500 (estimated). The Standard range plus is available for €48.818
So the Tesla model 3 is more expensive than the BMW i3. In Europe.
Edit: prices above are using Dutch VAT of 21%. In Germany VAT is 19% so all mentioned prices are slightly lower.
One might expect the reviewer to be aware of the 2nd storage location (the ”frunk”) in the front to store cables😂
Quality Type 2 charging cables can be had for far less than BMW sell them for.
The cables go in the cubby in the front of the car and adaptive driving is not something I need.
I'm Aussie where most of us live in a city but we need to travel 1000's of km when going bush. How fast will the petrol backup go when batteries die? Why not incorporate a solar array in the roof?
Solar array would add virtually nothing to the range. The output of PVC's is very low.
There actually is no proper lane keeping assist available in the i3. They only offer a traffic jam assist for speeds up to 60 km/h which actually is rather annoying as you need to hold the steering wheel every 7 seconds. And the adaptive cruise control does not work half of the time. If the sun is too low, when it rains, when it snows or sometimes when it simply does not want to work. Unfortunately no comparison to radar based systems. I still like the car as it's quick, nice to drive and quite efficient. And I like the design.
And of course the charging cables fit perfectly in the frunk. BMW offers a watertight bag which fits in there nicely. However they should have made the compartment waterproof in the first place .
Brilliant review many thanks⭐️
BMW doesn't want to sell the I3 otherwise they would sell it cheaper than EVs that offer more.
It's not a Kia. BMW sells out all pre orders pretty quickly.
Brian A don't be too quick to denigrate the Kia. We have both an i3 and an E-Niro both are fine cars but with different qualities.
The i3 generation is an electric vehicle with a long range and outstanding battery life. However, I believe BMW should focus further on design and appearance.
i love my i3 car
great review
Let's quickly move to electric, already the gas emission has damaged enough on this motherearth
And what do you think generates that electric?
@@funkysquirrel3120 Lightning! 😀
1.21 gigawatt
@@funkysquirrel3120 in the UK mostly wind these days.
Why not put the cables in the frunk?
So you buy a 30k car...then have to pay ontop for a charger port at home or charge on a normal plug for 20 hours ?
Does it have a passive battery cooling or the active battery cooling? I live in a hot climate and battery degradation is a problem on passive or air cooled battery systems. Also, how is the reliability?
scrap maker9090 yes it have active cooling and warming for the battery 👍
I haven't personally heard of anybody having a problem with the battery only heard of one problem with the bms computer going a couple of onboard charger issues and a hand full of problems with the locking mechanism of the charge port but that would have probably been sorted with a little bit of Greece on the latch if been sorted out of the warranty. I wouldn't worry
I would go for Tesla model 3 any day of the week
Ferrari drives much better than the tesla. Looks better, and faster. I'd take it over tesla any day of the week.
Batteries are under the passenger compartment within the wheelbase. Range can be 200 miles under favourable conditions, I say as a 120 Ah owner, eg: drive gently, or turn off the air con which consumes a lot of battery power.
In times where the minimum battery offered is around 60 kWh even in a Renault or Hyundai, it is difficult to sell 40 kWh and ask for a premium price. BMW needs to upgrade very very quickly and offer a battery upgrade to existing customers
Or, just make a better range extender that you can rely on, with more fuel capacity, and then battery size is irrelevant.
@@zolikoff there's nothing wrong with the range extender. it works fine. shame it's discontinued
@@markp9985 The fuel capacity is a little low and it could be more synchronized with the motor to get good dual use for longer trips.
It's discontinued because of stupid EV "regulations", because both the EU and the US thinks it shouldn't get the EV subsidies if the REx is too capable. When in fact it's the EV subsidies that shouldn't exist and they should let good ideas like this get more popular.
F G Our planet has far too few rare metals 🤷♂️for mass conversion to e-cars - Normal petrol ‼️car is 120 times 🤢 more efficient than e-car - "The only real fuel of the future 💰 is called hydrogen"
- Jörg Wellnitz, a professor at the Technical University of Ingolstadt with a professorship in Melbourne, drives one himself, but is anything but a fan 💸💸💸 of the concept. On the contrary, according to Wellnitz, the later mandatory switch to e-cars is a big scam that serves only one purpose: the car manufacturers want to use this to calculate the combined emissions of their models 'clean', so as not to have to pay the 💰💸💸💸 billions of fines announced by the EU. The customer is just a side issue. Moreover, an ordinary gasoline car is still 120 x more energy efficient ‼️ than an electric one.
The extraction of lithium (Chile) and cobalt (central Africa) is already causing extreme environmental damage in these countries, and is also accompanied by child labor. Wellnitz: "If Audi would only build its A4 series electrically, they would have to buy half the world market for cobalt."
Downright Dutch: you are not very well informed. Just observe the future as it unfolds. It will be rather painful for you as you will be proven wrong every day.
Brilliant review
Who else thought this was carwow
It would be perfect if it was 5 seaters
Stop having so many children it’s bad for the environment. 2 kids is okay.
Great video. Thanks
how many profit
The skiny tires do not improve rolling resistance, it slightly reduces it. However, the skiny tires have a large diameter and that has more impact on reducing RR. These tires are also good for snow, especially since it’s RWD and it’s good it has a bit more weight to the back so it should handle snow pretty well. Larger diameter improves grip as well. But a bit wider tires woul’ve been fun. With these large diameter wheels wider tires would mean a lot more weight. So not sure what’s the best solution. Perhaps a bit smaller and 30%wider or like on the i3s ?!
If I ever do decide to get driving. I am going to have one of these. Just love it. Such a cool car.
Thanks because this is a car that I want to make a payment with monthly and I need to at least know about the car at first before buying the car
Underneath the cargo floor is the engine not batteries! 😋
Touch screen in a CAR is very Wrong, so the NON touch screen is very positive.
“Amazing turning circle, allows the car to turn almost in its own length” *camera angle shows front wheel 🤦♂️
I am 6ft 2 inches and I doubt I would fit in this car. I stand to be corrected.
What's more, on the motorway the i3 is a dream to drive.
how much~！i think it will very expensive
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Infrastructure not nearly ready yet. Shouldn't have to Search endlessly for DC fast chargers
192 Miles? For 50 grand?
Tesla I would like a talk about the Model 3 for 35 grand
Is it just me or does she say “and” a lot of times throughout the video?
These series a little reminds me carwow, especially the start :)
I subscribed
Love it !!!
You would have to be completely insane to buy one of these new. They deprecate at an unbelievable rate. That is good news if you want a used one. Truecar will give you a good idea as to value.
Well that's it then, I'm insane. But at the time I bought my I had to wait for the bigger battery and also could spec all the things that I would need as this was my first car and will be the last one. Things like comfort access I thought a complete waste of money. It is not as if you can wave your foot under the tailgate and it open for you. I can easy feel in my pocket and press the unlock, without needing to look. Also mine was provided with the python cable.
Thanks, a good review, but not for me, I chose the Kia for bigger range, more standard kit, larger, and not being a BMW.
Lane keep assist would be a nightmare for a BMW driver as you have to signal when you change lane or the car objects.
Uglish ... but interesting ... technologicaly. 👍 Especially with the range extender option. 👍
Such a gorgeous car.
The led headlights on this are eyeball burning. My neighbour has this and they are really annoying lights. When driving behind me I have to turn all mirrors away. No other high powered car even does this,its not just annoying but damgerous how bright they are.
Impressive drive
Why is the resale value of these cars so horrible?
It is sure damn cute, but thats all its got going for it.
Is this a Carwow review!?
Oh no too many mistakes for it to be a carwow review she could not even be bothered to tell us that the car is made of carbon fiber-reinforced plastic and aluminium and that is the reason why it cost so much. I mean find a car that is less than 100k with a carbon fibre tub
I rea.ly want an electric but I rent a flat so don’t think will be good for me
A 193 mile range is not so good.
I love the i3, but like so many people I’m just not of a fan of that interior... I think the outside looks awesome but the inside in my opinion looks very undesirable and doesn’t match the sporty ness of the car... if they made the interior look a little more like the i8 or even one of the regular gasoline cars like the 3 series it would look great. But that old looking steering wheel and putting the gear shifter up top instead of something more traditional like the i8 is just not working for me and even though the the i8 is not fully electric there are plenty of electric cars with more normal gear shifts...those seats are cool though about the only thing I like about the interior and the Sunroof is a nice touch
Watch all her reviews n swig a beer every time she says "aCtUaLlY" lol kidding, she does great reviews
For that price no chance that's pure greed
YIKES Discontinued it’s way too small low mileage and expensive trifecta
It's not discontinued
has she stolen the fully charged logo lol
Electric mini rrolls royce
No batteries under the boot, all under the floor in the passenger compartment. She needs to do better research.
So difficult for me to understand heavy female English accents.
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BMW can and should do better.
Anybody else think Vicky is gorgeous?
I'm wouldn't recommend this car.
Why in the name of God will I ever spend £35,000 on a car that has 130 miles range it's small boot is meh... BMW you're out of the game, Tesla model 3 is way to go...
3 tons is light lol
one_point_three tons - this car weights 1.345kg