Officials sound alarm over rise of lithium-ion battery fires
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Officials are warning about the dangers posed by lithium-ion batteries after a rise in fires. The batteries are commonly found in phones, bikes and electric cars. NBC’s Vicky Nguyen reports on what you need to know to use them safely.
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That woman pushed that baby aside and got in front of her to get away from the fire....Who is this lady? She didn't even reach back to pull the kid with her? Just complete disregard for the kid....and the report said nothing about that, meanwhile my jaw is on the floor 🤯
She almost threw the baby down
She was discusting
Poor child! My mother would do the same. She has personality disorders and zero empathy for her children.
A lot of people don’t think about anyone but themselves in adrenaline rushed flight or fight situations and I don’t doubt for a second a huge portion of the population would do the same, selfish but true and how society works
@@gsesquire3441 People really trying to cancel a random woman that doesn’t even know of their existence, will never meet them or see them🤣 Cancel culture no longer applies to only celebs LOL time to ruin the lives of normal working class people
Let me give you some old school advice. If you must leave a charging battery unattended, make sure it's charging at the lowest amperage possible. 2 amp max. This is true for traditional batteries, and is still true for modern lithium batteries. Yes newer batteries are more capable of handling a fast charge, but it is still potentially dangerous. Only use fast charging if you are needing a partial charge quickly, and if you can be there to keep an eye on it. Otherwise prevent battery overheating via low amperage trickle charging.
Indeed!
My car has a built in Qi wireless charger and for some reason, my iPhone gets SUPER hot if I use it.. makes me really nervous. So I use a 12v socket corded charger instead.
There should be better regulation on how these systems are made. I’m not for *more* govt in most cases, but I don’t believe many people understand that even if you buy something from a reputable company, the technology inside can still be pushing the limits on safety.
That iz toooo complicated for whamen to understand. To them everything gets filled up in two minutes . This reality of awareness will not change anytime soon.
@@theashpilez 😂😂
Also, make sure Optimized Charging and Overcharge Protection is turned on in device settings.
*slowly unplugs my lithium ion battery-powered speaker that i normally leave just plugged in for convenience* 😳
😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
Just walked to the bathroom to unplug mine. Everything will henceforth be disconnected if not in use.
Most devices are safe-ish to constantly charge, it's the size of the battery and lack of safety measure in them is the cause
My neighbor is one of those lithium battery deaths from our apartment fire. My fiance and I lived next door, the explosion happened behind my head at 1 a.m. while in bed and his scooter battery was being charged by his front door entry way but it was my bedroom wall. 320 Grafton Ave in Dayton Ohio. The explosion blew his front door off the hinges and the fire was in the hall so we couldn't get out our door and we lived on the 3rd story with a concrete parking lot outside our windows. Thank God firefighters made it within minutes because we had to be rescued by the latter. My neighbor Dale had dementia and he was found by the door and his husband survived. I'll never underestimate fire and I have severe PTSD from that night. Smh.
Very scary & horrific! Glad for those who survived!
Hopefully you sure the battery maker and we're awarded millions of dollars.
Sued the battery maker.
Seek therapy
PTSD? Get professional help them! Asap! Or your life will be more scary, more anxiety. Professional help does help, or else those jobs don’t exist.
This happened to me from a taser gun that I purchased from online. I had it for only 3 months and kept it plugged in for when I would need it to walk my dog after work "winter time" and it's dark out. I was awakened by my dog barking and growling in the kitchen and then my smoke detectors went off! I got up and could immediately smell burning wires, plastic and a weird smell of electricity, as soon as I got to my kitchen and turned on the light, the taser gun that was plugged in starting hissing loudly and sparking!
I grabbed my kitchen towels and knocked it from the wall, grabbed it with the towels and threw it inside my oven and closed the door, because I didn't have time to make it to the back door and throw it outside.
It exploded inside the oven and kept on burning even without there being any oxygen left inside the oven. The way it was burning and the white hot color it gave off, I knew I couldn't open the door and use baking powder or a fire extinguisher.
I had to call the fire department for them to come out and help me. That is when I learned the dangers of these lithium batteries and now I NEVER- EVER leave anything that is chargeable plugged in that's not attended!... I hope this helps someone else out there, I definitely learned my lesson and could have lost my home, my dog and my life, ironically from a chargeable device designed to protect my life & safety!...
That was quick thinking.
@@gsesquire3441 that's what IC protection is for
I don't think I would be able to react that fast
@@valeriemartinez5631 said poster is probably a mother too.
That was quick thinking but ovens have vents that’s why it still burned it had oxygen.
I seriously hope that child is ok and doesn’t have second to third degree burns 😕
She died.
@guppygb6078 Yeah, it's very unfortunate🤣
@@TheInvisibleMan1001 It's funny to you that a little girl died?
That little girl is alive. Another girl passed.
I love how the Mom just noped out and almost pulled the bike down to block her path out of danger... 😬🤔
That's why lithium iron phosphate batteries are superior. LiFePO4 use a safer chemistry which is not prone to overheating to dangerous levels. It's important to understand this advantage when shopping for portable power stations as backup power sources in the home.
Yes, you give up some power density, but the tradeoff is a chemistry that is much more tolerant to less than perfect charge/discharge depth and temperature extremes.
WRONG, it's LTO (lithium titanate).
LiFePO4 are among the riskier chemistries. They have a potential energy on par with TNT.
@@FreedomAirguns LiFePO4 is still safer vs lithium ion right?
@@arturv83 Lithium ion is a marketing gimmick. They're all based on "lithium ions" moving from anode to cathode and "vice versa", but the various chemistries can be different. So far, and you can see tests done by firefighters on youtube on the matter, LTO are the best out there.
@@FreedomAirguns yes but there is a big difference in how LiFePO4 performs/functions vs lithium ion… do you have links to the tests you mentioned?
Not only did the child get pushed out of the way by the adult, she had to save herself!!??
taking the love for socialist distancing to a whole new level of lows.....
It's not just the fire, but the chemicals associated with lithium batteries and the deadly gas that is put off by the burning. Manufacturers and government rushed too quick to something they thought was the answer but have created a more lethal problem that will cause environmental issues for many decades to come.
They knew the dangers; they’re not incompetent- they’re malevolent. If you think they made this switch from gasoline cars, to electric, as some sort of altruistic way to protect the environment, then you’re smoking crack.
Wrong again, lithium iron phosphate is not the same as lithium ion which has been used for 20 plus years.
Exactly
They even forgot why we even have all these cars in the first place: they rushed these to get out of the problem of shovelling massive quanities of horse poop off of NYC streets.
Um, both have rushed multiple things without proper research for decades. The list is enormous. Look at us now. History is full of examples that show extreme incompetence when introducing things to consumers.
This is why newer systems should have charge indicators connected to limiters. The charge hits a certain level, the charge detector sends a single, the limiter cuts power off and requires manual action to reset.
Every consumer device has a BMS, or battery management system. It cuts off power when the battery gets too hot or the voltage too high. Your phone doesn't explode when you charge it overnight either.
However phones were ignighting in people's pockets, on tables and brief cases a few years ago even when not actively charging.
Every contrivance of man can fail, despite assurances it is Unsinkable, Lifetime service, reliable, fully safe.
Almost nobody will follow the advice at the end of this piece, and the UL sticker is about as meaningful down the production line as a DOT sticker on a motorcycle helmet. It simply means the manufacturer at one time was careful with quality control while the auditor was there. Since then they've change plants, suppliers or cut staff.
That can FAIL though...
@@tripplefives1402 Given how many BILLIONS of these phones there are and how many wind up in the landfill, the number of these fires is exceedingly rare! Americans alone Toss out 151 Million Phones A Year. In 2016, the average smartphone was replaced after 28.1 months.
So about every 2 years all these phones get replaced, but we see a dozen, two dozen pocket fires?
Well, it's good to know the industry knows what it's doing for decades already. Advanced BMS systems/IC's by Texas Instruments and Maxim for example can be configured to do everything you talk about.
People don't believe it can happen until it happens to them. Never happened to me but Im always very careful with my vapes, hoverboards and even my phone, anything that uses lithium ion batteries has the potential for fires and explosions. It's really hard to put out these fires too, just look up how much harder it is to put out an electric vehicle fire than a regular gas car fire.
They said here they removed safety feature. I guess it most of the times explodes because people are negligent
My phone has a safety feature that stops charging when the battery is 85%, I've fallen asleep many times while charging my phone very close to my face.
Safety feature or not, I need to stop that 👍
@@avanz2885It's bad for your battery anyway. Only charge as much as you are going to use. Don't keep the battery full longer than it needs to be.
It's not harder, it's impossible, I am a firefighter, we just back out of Lithium.
@atletico ATM Not necessarily, you can't always see if a battery is damaged, also how would you know if the safety system to prevent overcharging is not working correctly?
My friend once rented from a guy in New York who used his apartment as a conduit/relay for shipping "used" electronics. My friend didn't ask any questions because the rent was dirt cheap in comparison to the surrounding community (cash under the table; the landlord freaked out when he tried to pay him in check one day).
Then the landlord started shipping bulk quantities of lithium ion batteries through his place and he bolted; he said he didn't like sleeping next to a pile of napalm and grenades LOL
Obviously not the point of this video but why would the landlord be freaked out when your friend tries to pay him a check? And why did he ship those large quantities of bulk quantities to your friend?
@@rayvega3163 it's likely that the landlord's "used electronics business" was illegal; they were either stolen, counterfeit, imported but didn't meet US quality/safety standards, sold/shipped through a third-party residence to evade taxes, etc.
Criminals prefer to be paid in cash because it provides greater anonymity. To obtain a checking account (and recieve payment through checks), you need to provide a name, phone number, address, social security number, etc. which make it easier for the police to track you down; that's why they avoid formal banking like the plague.
@@CytotoxinK Amun Ra Darwin to that one...
This is such poor reporting. Raw numbers entirely miss the point of the problem; what is important is the rate and comparisons to what electric bikes, scooters, and vehicles are replacing. At 216 fires in NYC with a minimum of 92,000 ebikes/scooters of NYC (Citi + estimates of delivery biker estimates), that's a rate of 234 fires per 100k ebikes per year. Compare that to vehicles: Nationally, there are 1530 ICE vehicle fires per 100k cars and 3475 per 100k hybrids per year. Oh, and if you were wondering, the rate is 25 per 100k for EVs, so it's likely that we're just undercounting ebikes that aren't sold and the true rate is closer to this. The scale of the issue is TEENY compared to gasoline vehicles, which ebikes are largely able to replace in many metro areas.
Ebikes and scooters could be made safer through regulations, I agree. Let's require commercial users to pass a course in safe charging and offer outdoor charging lockers in places like NYC. But let's not fear-monger our way out of a safer, greener technology.
ICE engines don't spontaneously combust, so your comparison is pointless.
me: literally sleeps beside a full stack of lithium batteries for my vape and portable fan ☠️
Me too Nintendo switch, phones, keyboards, etc. thank God it doesn't catch fire 🔥
Imagine that happening during a flight
Yikes !
That's why they always ask if u have anything with lithium batteries
@@duhsunnyday8590 99% of the global population have zero clue
Happened to a company called valuejet. Back in the 90's. Killed everyone on board.
Can’t bring a lot of lithium batteries on planes
This reminds me of a few years back when Samsung started using cheaper parts on their phones and the batteries in one of the Note phones were spontaneously combusting.
I remember there was a joke mod made about that for Fallout 4 back then called Gamsung Salaxy Explosives (Note 7 parody), which turned the phones into powerful grenades.
Lithium is no joke, it's volatile stuff under the right conditions; and we want to power our cars with this stuff..
I'm sticking with an internal combustion engine. Yes, they catch fire too but I feel safer in an ICE car than one with giant LI-Ion packs underthe passenger compartment.
Good points! I know there’s a lot of research in other battery materials, so hopefully those will become commercialized soon. Ones that aren’t so combustible
not just samsung, there were burning iphones also etc. but samsong phones were hyped till roof. they all use same type batteries
It's normally not an issue. In fact, of the 3, electric fires are least likely. Gas next, then hybrids being the most flammable.
I know 2 people that had car fires. Both gas. 70s, 80s, maybe?
@@jaredlowe3927 Hydrogen would be a better solution than any kind of battery, once a reliable engine design was achieved.
Li-Ion soon will be a thing of the past, since were now moving to solid state battery, it wont burn easily, and it can withstand room temperature up to 90 C degrees.
Still waiting bro...
I never heard of Solid State batteries
@@exoticcar5482 its new, youtube it.. or google it. Ull find it ☺️
@@exoticcar5482 look up company called quantum scape and solid power.
@@exoticcar5482 also look into lithium iron phosphate as they are safer than lithium ion.
I'll keep driving my gas powered vehicle.
Batteries exploding with enough energy to litterally throw you is scary
Imagine if it was a car battery that was over charged and blowing you away and sound like a shotgun!
My friend had that happen to her and she learned not be near it when it's plugged in
I really hope that's not that womans baby the way she saved herself and not the baby. 😡
I'd rather it be 1 dead than 2.
There needs to be safety standards in place for ALL electronics using lithium batteries 🔋
I remember when Hover Boards were very popular & there were lots of fires that occurred due to over charging...We Need to Have Standard Safety in all Electronics.
Batteries have UL certification.
Yup
Agree, we need better standards built into the batteries to prevent thermal runaway.
Yeah right. With the rush for lithium everything for electronics and cars to get rid of gas + with the cheap cost of china made batteries with cut corners there's going to be a lot of problems
Good luck with that. For instance amazon is awash with laser pointers that greatly exceed the legal limit for output. That's a law already in place, but ignored and unenforced.
My cousin is a volunteer firefighter in Kansas. He said they have had 3 or 4 fires at their dump last year, caused by lithium batteries
Don't overcharge your lipos,
Always attend charging batteries,
Never poke lipos with sharp or metal objects.
discharge lipo batteries properly and don't over discharge when using.
Dispose of properly.
*Read the warning labels.*
I got into FPV drones and this is basically my biggest worry either then losing a expensive drone.
Good luck getting the general population to figure that out.
If it's dented don't use it.
Get a lipo pouch if you don't have one already.
But as you mentioned, in order to perform those tests they had to disable the security features, therefore, it was intentionally produced. What this means is the there must be a stronger enforcement from government agencies to force manufacturers to maintain and improve battery safety features to protect all
Meanwhile probably standardize charger and battery interface so if they can't comply to the spec, let 3rd party manufacturers handle it.
Lol, this proves nothing. They intentionally removed the safety feature so the battery would fail. 99.9% of the time, safety mechanism would kick in and short circuit first before it even gets over loaded. If you are going to use this a way to fear monger the battery technologies, you are absolutely doing a poor job. One could easily say that your electrical system in your home could easily fail as well if you take away the safety feature. If you take away the circuit breaker in your home, any electronics could have easily done something similar. One could easily say that your refrigerator is combustible if the compression safety feature is remove causing infinite compression until it becomes literally an IED.
Blablabla; it proves plenty. Lets give out hand grenades to everyone; they have a safety latch that makes them harmless, and they make wonderful paperweights.
Glad to see you missed the point. Considering there are hundreds if not thousands of fires each year from lithium batteries, research like this needs to happen.
These batteries are also found in some RC cars, which can catch fire without the car running but by just being connected to the car (happened to me once)
Found in MOST rc vehicle's these days. Nobody using old NICD and Nimh batteries anymore. Lipo's are way lighter and put out superior power.
I have lipo batteries for my rc I worry about them. I don't keep them charged fully when not in use.
Old RC cars used Nickel cadmium which was much safer but density was a bit less
@@gamercat7004 storage voltage?
@@okruiner7835 3.85v at 30% store charge
So the woman pushed the child into the bike and rushed out the door. She could’ve picked the baby up. Was that her mother? My goodness. Poor baby.
And the baby will grow up to be a mother just like that one. Vicious cycle that only individuals can break.
Stop being so quick to pass judgement because the situation happened so fast the mother was probably in a state of shock. Like you got angel wings on walking around being sinless and perfect. STOP IT!
@@sgrey2350 You need to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling because the situation didn’t happen to you and the mother was in shock. I’m sure she would not purposely try to hurt her own child. People’s response time is different from yours so knock off the judgment and thank God that they’re both okay. The government and companies are pushing all this so called new technology and the citizens don’t know what the dangers are and thy should be concerned so they can make wise choices. Peace! ✌🏾
@QueenEsther414 in a state of shock your natural mother instinct comes out. You couldn't tell me otherwise.
@Acts2:38 Exactly, people quick to emotion but not quick to think in their judgements (just like in the vid). Explosion happened in HALF a second (the vid is in slow mo) and she probably didn't know kid was there and intended to swipe out of the way the bike, in that half second she was already in flight mode mentally the moment it smoked up
"Wait, aren't these batteries also in our cars?" "Shhhh, thou shalt not question the EV inquisition"
They "removed the safety features" from the battery and then purposely over charged it?
I bet if I remove the brakes from my car it will crash...
And yet with the safety devices, these things DO happen. Glad to see you missed the point.
@@tmilesffl Well line them up as provided and test, don't remove the safety devices then over charge them.
Batteries of this type blow up when over charged, what they did was like throwing a brick in water to see if it sinks.
@@tmilesfflnot really. Usually when these happen it’s because of the lack of safety features or just user error.
What safety feature did they remove and how do you overcharge them?
Here is a pro tip for lithium battery charging, try to charge at a lower speed and limit charging to 80%
Not only do you decrease battery tear by a factor of a thousand, you increase the charging cycles the battery can do and decrease the chance of a catastrophical failure.
Here's a thought.
Don't take off the safety parts.
And yet with the safety devices, these things DO happen. Glad to see you missed the point.
@@tmilesffl Moral of the story is Lithium is one of the MOST REACTIVE elements out there. Even in high school chemistry they always warn against any moisture or heat in close contact with anything lithium or similar elements like flouride because their reactivity is what makes them dangerous. They simply don't want to exist even when in compound forms. At the end of the day Li-Ion or any lithium based batteries for that matter are all potential IED's if you do even as much as scratch them a little, or heat them above 130 degrees Fahrenheit.
A while ago, 2007-ish I had a Motorola razr explode in my pocket. Didn't catch fire but that much heat down there wasn't fun. Not sure what happened since it wasn't charging I guess the battery just failed
Wow - thanks for this report. I needed to hear it. Have been considering getting a solar generator like this for emergency use. Haven't heard this part of the story before.
Get a lithium ion phosphate battery not a lithium ion. The phosphate batteries not only last 4-5 times longer but are significantly less likely to be prone to fires.
Electric Cars being the "future" of transportation is a concerning future...
For any rechargeable electric appliance that I'm unsure it's overcharged safety system, I usually plug it to a timer and set the time based on the device charging time.
Where did you find your timer?
@@artchick07 I just buy it from my local hardware store. Any retail/hardware store usually sell them, either the analog 24 hour or the digital ones (called electric socket timer). Even online shop like Amazon has it, just make sure that the socket is compatible (international items).
@@artchick07any walmart or hardware store.
Honestly this why ive been skeptical about this push for electric everything. For starters a sizable portion us citizens live in areas that use salt on their roads. Salt eats through the battery casings in a short amount of time. This was recently demonstrated after a hurricane in Florida recently where flooded electric cars started catching fire from the salt water.
Two power grid infrastructure is 50 years at least behind where it needs to be.
Three, the top 5 mines for cobalt are all in some way or another...owned by china. China is facing financial collapse due their policies for real estate. So i find it convenient that our legislation is trying to pass laws to force us to become dependent on products that china owns the materials for.
Whoa! Thanks for the video. I have a bad habit of overcharging batteries so this is an eye opener.
NEVER OVERCHARGE LITHIUM BATTERIES! FIRE RISK
too many sheep ignorant people out there buying EV
without knowing how dangerous batteries are.
anything govt push on you, do the opposite
I’ve never had or known of a lithium ion fire in my area. I would love to see the data because these fires can suddenly be happening like it’s a new trend. There are millions of batteries in peoples homes.
There have been several recalls due to defective batteries catching fire.
Not a new thing, but since people are buying electric vehicles more this has became more common, still not that common but if it happens it is very dangerous because the fire is hard to put out
Must be manufacturing issues. All smartphone batteries use lithium batteries. If manufacturing is bad, the battery reacts chemically inside, creating a bridge of solid lithium compounds that cause overheating. If manufacturing is good, that will not happen
Now imagine a electric car in your garage plugged in all night....
Please continue to spread the word on this matter. Give the opportunity to have case device to contain the battery in. The battery should be easy removed from its device and than stored in safe case for charging.
Most electronic equipment have overcharging protection on them.
I didn't even hear any of that. I was too in shock at the lady throwing the baby back into a fire to save herself. Wtf
She didn't throw the baby, the child was behind her.
Women first, then the children. Men are left behind to die
Well, almost EVERYONE wears a lithium-ion battery in its pocket, everyday.
Failures happens, but still they are quite rare vs. the number of batteries used worldwide.
New solid-state batteries will solve this safety issue aswell.
Most technologies these days have safety features to stop charging after a certain percentage or at 100% the reason they had to shut off the safety feature on the scooter is exactly that. The technology is safe and it’s more like opponents of technology like EV and solar are against this technology becoming mainstream.
I think you have missed the point on this. They switched off the safety circuit to illustrate what can happen when the safety circuit fails, as there is every chance of it so doing. Any silicon chip can overheat and break down with normal use. The demonstration is so appropriate to illustrate the dangers, just like a demonstration of a cigarette being left on a piece of furniture. But on the subject of EVs, they are crap and people power will put and end to the madness of them being forced on people who do not want them. Why should taxpayer's money be used to subsidise (bribe) people into buying them? In the UK a recent survey tells us that only one in ten of EV buyers are women! No prizes for guessing why.
@@BD-bditw with the raising costs of gas why are people complaining that gas is 5-6 dollars a gallon we caused the prices to go up with our consumption if it’s 10 dollars a gallon all you can do is pay the price and accept it.
So don’t remove the safety switches from batteries when you’re charging. Got it thank you. We would have never realized that.
This is my biggest fear. Not theft, not flood, but all the lithium-ion battery products in my house. When I stop using a device with one, I charge to ~40%, then put in the oven (we don't use the oven) so if it catches fire it won't catch the house on fire.
Oh interesting. I suppose you need to remember that before you preheat the oven before you bake something.
A metal container or fire proof safe would work as well.
I would use a junk, non working oven that's not connected to anything for this.
That’s a good idea! We need to have better battery recycling infrastructure. Traditional car batteries have a near perfect recycling system.
@@plateshutoverlock Yup. Brilliant to give a potential fire a now WIDE-OPEN GAS LINE. right??? Lol
Also, from having a cr*p oven (Magic Chef), I assure you. They DO most certainly have air vents. It comes out the vents under the display.
Ohhhh? So it's not just Tesla???
That explosion from the scooter was huge! It took the windows out! 😳
Big Punch from small packages
Not being funny!
The future so they said 😂😂💩🙈
never had any issues with any kind of batteries for decades. even the the recent years purchases of cheap made in china electronics hasn't cause me any issues with it's batteries. the battery industry's claim of rare failure is indeed true. at least for me and most people i know.
Same. It's not hard to not overcharge a battery on any decent charger.
Because people are using the wrong charger. If it fits they plug it in and no wonder why they explode
All of us want to hope to be one of the "most".
We need more of these Li-Ions and I need a really big one in our garage 😂
Pro tip if you own an android or and iphone you should have settings that limit your battery to 85% it helps to keep your batteries below 100% to help the life span and helps not push the batteries
It doesn't limit your battery to 85% forever. At least on my Pixel, it fast charges to 85%, then it stops, then slowly charges up until my alarm goes off.
I find those dumb Qi slow charger things make the battery way hotter than fast charge
@@F35Nerd you might have a routine set up, i have my s21+ hold 85% when i sleep and before my alarm goes off to go to work it will change back up too 100% I've had this phone since it's came out and this is how i treat all of my lithium batterys for my PEVS
This is crazy!!!!! It blew away window from 15ft but couldn’t blow away the lamp 3ft away?!!!!! 🤣 🤣🤣
I know that it happens. But don’t go over board with the stunts lol
In the state of Tamilnadu in India at least four or five lithium battery fires were reported last summer. In one case a father and daughter died at their home when they kept the removable lithium battery charging overnight in their house living room.
Last year, My uncles shed got burned down due to overcharging Li-ion batteries without using a appropriate charger. Fire depts responded and killed the fire. At least they put so many gas cans in it. ALMOST burned down the neighbor’s house.
"Removed the saftey features" something that all the products here have in common. Remove the saftey features to your phones battery and stick it in your pocket or bypass the fuses in your house. The message here is make sure you buy from a proper source, have good duligence like anything else in your home.
This needs to be higher up! Sure, some yahoos buy cheap knock-off batteries without battery management systems or do stupid things like charge them after a bad accident, but this is largely a safe technology that people have trusted to live in their back pocked or backpack for *many years*.
It's important to put regulations into place in dense places like NYC where there's a huge financial incentive for delivery ebike riders to abuse their batteries (likely purchased cheaply in the first place and to charge them more quickly than they're meant to be charged), like having charging lockers outside as they do in parts of Asia if they can be temperature-regulated easily and having commercial users go through a training program about safe training practices. But it's silly that cities are talking about full on bans in residences when the majority of reputable brands are as safe as your laptop.
A fire chief in California who has studied these types of fires said that an electric car fire can require up to 25,000(!) gallons of water to extinguish, versus 750 gallons for a gasoline car. That does not sound very 'green' to me.
Good to see that mother save her child 👍👍👍
Always use lithium ion batter seriously like using and buy legitimate products and not third parties from other countries. Thank you.
This almost always occurs when using a wrong charger. If you're supposed to charge at 1 amp and you charge at 5 amps no wonder why it explodes
Devices only draw the current they need. Using a higher amp charger is usually fine.
@@rennmaxbeta perhaps its faulty charging circuits in the phones or the chargers leaking out much higher voltages than they should be
@@rennmaxbetaIt's always fine. It's like using a bridge built to carry a semi, just for small cars. Overcapacity is never the problem, under capacity is. If you draw 5amps on a wire meant for 2, that wire will burn. A 5 amp wire is simply a thicker wire than a 2 amp wire.
Using a fast charger on something not made for a fast charger sounds like a no no
@@rennmaxbeta that doesn't apply to hobby grade stuff. You can definitely set the charge rate manually in those instances.
Yeah a typical residents park their scooters in the living room.
So buying electric cars. They're a scam. 30 grand to replace the cheapest car battery.
One question here: how does one prevent a battery from “overcharging” ? Are we supposed to unplug it the moment it reaches 100% ? With some devices it’s not easy to tell. With others (hybrid vehicle, for example) it’s not under user control.
Technically we aren't supposed to charge li-ion over 80%
Mainly by only using smart chargers and high-quality batteries with protection and monitoring electronics built-in.
Many of these disasters happen when something is poorly-manufactured, counterfeit with safety features removed or bypassed, or where li-ion batteries are improperly wired as a “drop-in upgrade” for simpler, older battery types.
Electric cars have a ton of battery safety features, as do original laptop, power tool, and phone batteries.
Lithium ion batteries do not like to be damaged, particularly by crushing or puncturing. This causes an internal short that lights flammable metals on fire. Be sure children know to come clean with anything they damage, and if you ever see something “bulging”, unplug it and get it serviced.
Freedom is dangerous. You should expect it to be dangerous. That's essentially what freedom is- the capacity to place others at risk. Use it or lose it.
Whenever I hear someone suffered a TBI on the job I always wonder what makes them go back. So glad that they’re alive to tell the tale.
Probably the TBI lol
@@phillipbanes5484 That's what I say too...when the interviewer says "Why do you want to work for us?" I would replay..."Homelessness is highly over-glamorized"
So instead of reliable combustion engines we using ticking time bombs to save the planet?
lithium battery failures are incredibly rare and almost always caused by user error. even cheap Chinese battery cells will never just randomly blow up. I'm all for battery safety, but lets not pretend like this is some new epidemic. this kind of reporting turns off a lot of people from going green and buying stuff like electric bikes, scooters, and cars because they think the battery is just gonna randomly blow up one day. the best way to prevent fires is to not overcharge and to not charge the battery in an extremely hot environment. if you follow these rules you are completely safe.
Eh, I think it is an epidemic of sorts with the AMOUNT of things that have begun to go up in smoke...by being manufactured in places with lax standards, by companies with even worse standards.
Please avoid buying cheap/no name brad of things with batteries - had an ebike battery made by a guy in his garage--caught fire while charging, luckily was there with extinguisher easily accessible and visible. Bought a brand name from a reputable company, smooth sailing ever since - Have a wonderful day all!!!;)
0:18 was that lady trying to pull away from her kid AND never reached down to help the kid?! WTF!?
Hey guys don’t go investigating on all the toxic sludge they pull up just to get the material to make these batteries.
Hmm where do they put all this toxic sludge at…..
100x worse then fracking.
Key point, you removed the safeties.
Are their defective batteries out there? Yes, but they are usually in knock off products.
Are their protections you can take? Yes, you can purchase a timer to limit how long the battery charges. Charge the battery someplace where there is less likely hood of a secondary fire. When I charge my smaller batterie or my DJI batteries, I do it on the stove so if they catch fire, the chance of it spreading is small.
Anything has the potential to be dangerous, not just Lithium Ion batteries.
BTW - I purchased some no name rechargeable lights online and the batteries overcharged and caught fire. But they were enclosed in a meal box, so I didn't even know about it until later that day. Just another use for metal ammo cans.
Knock off products....
Like Tesla?
there not their... smh
I had a battery pack / solar panel for my phone and noticed it looked like it was getting puffy , instinct told me to take it outside and I'll be dang in check on it 2 days later and it was burned , imagine if I had be gone and it was in my house , I have Chihuahua and I would of been really really upset you know what I mean .
Keep on pushing for everything electric
Keep pretending this doesn't happen with flammable liquid combustion engines with batteries
@@DivineLightPaladin it doesn't
Good Story but it fails to touch one important factor, that of Battery Chemistry. Does the Alarm sound apply to all Lithium Chemistry Types or are the there Chemistry's like LiFEPO that are not such a problem? It feels a bit like the alarm was intended to attract views without due attention to providing sufficient important additional detail. That being said, ensuring the Battery concerned has a UL listing is very important.
if you're into electronics like i am and work with lithium batteries, don't forget to discharge them to below 3.6V. Discharged batteries are alot harder to light on fire since the lithium is in an innert, oxidized state
Also, if you store them fully charged they're gonna loose capacity and increase their internal resistance over time
Good advice thanks. So old phones that are completely drained of energy are safe to have around or is it better to take them to recycling. I like to collect my old phones and use them as a paper weight but if it's unsafe I will recycle them.
@@mercurialmagictrees it's always better to give them to recycling, so that they can be recycled. But batteries mostly fail durcing charging or when they are pierced. Especially when the battery has lasted years without incident, having them around is pretty safe
The fires are caused by the lack of a charge controler on things like e-bikes, scooters, and similar devices. They will not combust unplugged.
They also don't charge "Unplugged"
Lots of videos online of e bikes bursting into flames while chained to a bike rack.
Stop ordering off Ali Baba and buying cheap priced batteries or battery operated things.
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Screw that lady who showed so much cowardess in the care of that baby, didn't even reach for her or take the brunt of the blast.
So it's a failure of the safety feature more so than the battery? Because they clearly demonstrated by purposefully removing the charging safe guard. But batteries do fail especially lithium ions, even old android phones, especially samsungs...
Thanks for this
"Researchers removed the safety features from the battery to ensure it would fail." @1:18 . That's like saying you removed the brakes from a car to show just how dangerous vehicles are. Lifepo4 (lithium iron phosphate) is very stable and won't explode like they are showing. The batteries that fail are cheap Chinese lithium iron polymer or lithium cobalt batteries that have no safety measures installed. Point is, don't buy cheap batteries and know the makeup of the battery before you buy and you're fine.
Lithium batteries should be stored in fireproof containers. I fly RC models and we store batteries in steel boxes. Yes I’ve had batteries pop, it’s a hot nasty fire.
As someone with an RC car hobby, LIPOs are finicky & require attention / proper care. I always store them in a flame retardent case in a 50% charged state & always balance charge them.
They act like these batteries are brand new or something.
Phones, laptops, cordless tools, all sorts of things have lithium batteries. They all should have battery management systems attached to prevent overcharging. Even in the video they said that they purposely disabled the battery protection to overcharge it which caused the explosion and fire!
since people get more electric vehicles you see more fires, no matter what you do, this will jusdt grow with the ammount of people using electric machines and vehicles by the day
Wait until everyone realizes that lithium ion batteries are what are used in all those electroc vehicles they are driving around as well as to store energy from solar panels and wind turbines 🤷♂️🤣🤣🤣
Don’t spread fear without differentiating the differing types of lithium batteries (iron phosphate?)
I want to go electric but the dangers of lithium ion explosions really prevents me from getting an EV. I live in a hot country and I have no faith that these batteries can withstand the heat here. I've seen so many videos about EV fires and it takes so long to put it out. These manufacturers haven't made preventative designs to make the fires under control when this situtation happens. Until they do, my current gas powered car will do.
1:06 so the average person would purposefully remove the safety feature 😏😏😏
Its impossible to out those fires and super toxic for those trying - im liking the hydrogen cell or natural gas burns clean
EV is trap
Failures may be rare, but as the use of batteries become more prolific - events will increase...
😂 remember, when we all said years ago, we should be using sodium ion batteries, and everybody laughed at us ? 😂
"Failures are rare....except in NYC where there were 216 alone."
Trash I'll never worry with. I'm all gas and If I want a bike a can clearly ride it like it was meant to be.
Everybody who owns and stores/charges a large lithium battery in their home should have a "Firesak" it's a bag that is designed to contain the explosion & fire and gives you plenty of time to react compared to not having one.
Imagine your massive 1,000 pound electric car battery igniting under you while driving on highway at 70mph with your family inside the car. Everyone would be toast before your could even get the car stopped. There are some videos of the ev’s catching on fire while people in them and the doors won’t open. Have to climb out through window. Luckily I’ve only seen it happen when stopped so they had time to get out.
Last month I had a Panasonic 2032 coin battery explode at home only 10 minutes after I got off work. It caused 4 Small fires with open flames three was jn plain sight. the fourth one was behind a desk that I didn't see. Luckily I saw it flickering and stop it. Now all batteries live inside an ammo can. I've also had a tiny battery for a laser exploded. But didn't cause any fire last week. But I heard something pop but didn't know what it was until I found pieces of it on the floor
If my car gets to 100% it automatically stops charging
Compared to a whole tank leak of fuel on fire about same with tech 2023