Archery | Compound or Recurve?
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- One of the fundamental choices an archer makes early in their development is which discipline to take. Instead of going down the "You might as well use a gun" sledging, let's take a more objective look at the pros and cons of both types and the sort of people who use them.
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"A recurve archer is living a paradox, you try as hard as you can to reach the perfect shot but there is no perfect shot." - this is the reason I subscribed to your channel.
Except Robin Hooding it lol
Horse archery? Why not! Other countries do it. :-) ua-cam.com/video/Vt7Gs2EIR-E/v-deo.html
I always say:
Compound is the art of aiming.
Recurve is the art of execution.
Compound is mechanical like being in the army. Drilled and rehearsed.
Recurve is a dance or ballet. It's graceful.
I agreed :)
Very true
And a longbow?
You should see kyuudo if you want to see a graceful dance with bows.
longbow is mostly historical recreation for fun i think. i don't think its really about skill.
Thats my opinion anyway.
Funny story:
My cousin had a Compound bow once while I had a Recurve. He used his for bow fishing and I used mine for defending my home from the soda can/bottle and general garbage horde that threatened my way of life!
One day we ended up getting into a little competition on who was the better shot. Him and his Compound vs Me and my Recurve, I squeaked by just by a little and he thought it was because my bow was easier to use and so we traded bows and did a second round. Needless to say, I ended up outright winning that round because he'd never tried to shoot a Recurve before and he could barely even hit the target lol
That was a fun day and the bragging is still fun every now and then... XP
And of course your cousin can' t take his compound bow for a day in his hand for hunting , a 3 pds recurve isn' t a 8pds compound and it' s gadgets !
@@jean-claudegravel3145the vast majority of hunters are compound archers. Don't be ridiculous
It all comes down to the archers skill... and of course me being a recurve shooter I could not pickup another guys recurve and shot it very well... I have worked for over three years to be able to shoot my recurve with any good groping.... and the compound bow only took me a few months...
@@jean-claudegravel3145 everybody using compound bow for hunting hahahaha
@@brandoncomer6492 I would expect them to use a bow with less moving parts also because it would be pure suffering trying to shoot and twigs and grass gets into the pulleys
I started with compound archery but have swopped to recurve, my expectations were too high and to hard on myself with the compound but I enjoy the challenge of the recurve. As one of our archers put it , with a recurve you're trying to hit the gold but with a compound you're trying not to miss it ,
I shoot both compound and recurve. The compound is just fun because its a beast and the recurve is fun because its a challenge.
Both are great fun. Bottom line. I just love archery in all its forms. (But crossbows are the devils work😈)
Lol
Vegard Maassen very well said especially the last line
A crossbow is only evil because the establishment says it is, just like a lot of people think gun suppressors are evil because the entertainment industry paint them as "the hit man's tool".
Ikr what's the point of having one
I can't agree more! I've fired both compounds and recurve bows but mostly compounds. I accidentally broke the limbs on my recurve once and that's knocked my confidence in the bow. The limbs were labeled at my draw length but clearly that wasn't so.
I plan to get my recurves out this summer and restore my self confidence in the lovely bows!
Thank you. Good video. I learned archery from my father who was Michigan state champion back in the 50's and 60's on a recurve. But in the US, we also have to consider that bows are also used for hunting. Compound bows are the most efficient for large game hunting. Some argue that a recurve is more of a challenge but, when aiming at an animal, it is always best to achieve a "one shot one kill" result. Wounding a deer that gets away only to die later is a poor excuse to choose a "challenge". Like my father said, "Out in the woods we're hunting, not shooting." The challenge should be left at the range.
I was talking to bow hunters, and all of them started out with recurve bow or longbow as a child before investing on a compound.
CODomingo
That is true. I started hunting with a recurve also, as there weren't compound bows at that time.
CODomingo not an archer myself, but I'm guessing that that's because of the complexity of a compound making it more expensive for starters?
CODomingo My friend, your father seems to be a wise man and actually gets what hunting is about. I am the son of a hunter myself and to others it may sound paradox but true hunters CARE about the animals and dont want them to be in agonizing pain. Therefore precision and efficiency is the way to go
I see the battle between "compounds are the only bow to hunt with" and "recurves are for true bowhunters, we don't need training wheels." I don't really pick a side per se, but here's the survey you should fill out 1: what are you hunting? a) how much does it weigh? 2. Can I maintain a 5 inch/13cm group at [insert personal maximum distance, under 100y/91m]? 3. With a bow of a minimum draw weight of 40lb +20lb/500lb animal weight. Example A: 40lb dw, 500 lb or less animal-good. B: 60 lb bow, roughly 1000lb or less animal. Obviously there's a lot more to it, draw length, arrow weight, broadhead type, etc. 4. How close van you reliably get? I believe no traditional bow should go further than 45 yds/41m, no compound out past 90yds/82m. Really, your sweet spots are 15yds/14m (rounding a little) and 30yd/27m, respectively. With the busyness of modern life (especially married couples and/or families), most just don't have the time necessary to practice the shooting and hunting skills required to be a non-compound hunter. That was kind of rantish, sorry, carry on.
Also compound bows are (only In my opinion) better for hunting, having greater power and better accuracy!
+Bryn freerunning How about for Zombie Apocalypse? Which is better? :D
Hahahahaha if it was the zombie apocalypse I would proberbly just reach for a shot gun!XD. Na if i had to choose it would proberbly compound (again only in my opinion) because they have a let off point making then way easier to hold at full draw hahaha!!
Achilles Tendon Hahahahaha if it was the zombie apocalypse I would proberbly just reach for a shot gun!XD. Na if i had to choose it would proberbly compound (again only in my opinion) because they have a let off point making then way easier to hold at full draw hahaha!!
+Bryn freerunning ooh hahaha, its okay broo!! thanks XD
+Achilles Tendon hahahaha your welcome hahaha
I sold my compound bow because it simply got boring. After a while it didn't seem to take a whole lot of effort to drill the middle of the target every time with my compound bow. I really enjoy shooting my recurve bow. I like it because it's hard, not because it's easy. When I'm shooting well and put at least most of the arrows in the middle of the target it makes me feel like I've accomplished something. Sometimes easier isn't better!!!
+plasticapple7 I feel so sorry for you:( boohoohoo. hitting all those bullseyes. Must have been so unpleasant for you.
breh where im from i dont even have any places to hunt or practice bow shooting
thats kind of the point of a compound, much rather have a compound for bear defense though, but nothin beats 44 magnum.
plasticapple7 ok sure buddy
Elvis where u from? Russia? China?
Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.
Great video, there's just one thing I always see overlooked. Every archer I know well shoots what you've classified as "traditional" bows(mostly horse bows). We're archers, not hobbyists, and we're every bit as set on hitting every bull's-eye as modern recurve and compound shooters. We just do it in the woods and away from man-made, standardized targets. It's an entirely different kind of skill (not inherently greater, just different) to shoot at random, irregularly shaped targets at unknown distances and in vastly less than perfect conditions. Makes it a lot more interesting. I recommend you try it if you haven't.
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If you truly love archery, there is no such thing as "a final decision between recurve and compound", you practice and enjoy both of them, should budget and time allows. They are both enjoyable, albeit in different ways, like beer and wine. Although starting from recurve is generally the right thing to do. I started from recurve, and the occasional compound shooting is really a thing to enjoy.
I don't think people should start on recurve just for the sake of starting on recurve. People should start on whichever bow they prefer and enjoy to shoot. The rest will all come naturally.
@@cutiepie338 that's not true, though. Take a compound shooter and a recurve shooter and have them switch weapons for a day. The recurve archer will have a much easier time picking up the compound than the other way around
They all pale in comparison to a PVC slingbow made by the backyard warrior.
Good video, I think i'm gonna go with a recurve. I don't like gimmicks, i'd want to be genuinely good at shooting, so I think recurve is the right one for me.
+empire How about for Zombie Apocalypse? Which is better? :D
+empire from experience you should try EVERYTHING. I started with a recurve, and being able to shoot only once or twice a week, i find it very difficult to maintain form and consistency with the recurve. on the other hand, training with a recurve helped me a lot when i changed to a compound. you can be genuinely good at shooting both ways, but try and enjoy the process. they are both enjoyable in their own ways.
+empire You can be 'genuinely' good at shooting a compound. A lot of skill still comes into play using a compound.
In any sort of apocalypse scenario, zombies or otherwise I would not rely on a compound bow.
More mechanical parts are more areas that could break and you can't easily attach a string on them either.
Great video, accurate information. Both bows have a different feel when you shoot them. There is one key thing that was not talked about in the video, the compound bow's back wall (for the draw). The lack of one on the Recurve Bow makes regulating the power applied to the arrow, much more difficult. Consistency drastically increases accuracy. The compound bow is applied technology, it is a machine. It is harder to maintain and adjust, and easier to break or damage. But they are also very adjustable as well as much smoother and faster.
+Wes Lott You're quite right about the backwall of compound injecting the precise amount of kinetic energy into every shot. Recurves try to come close (for target shooting anyway) by using a clicker.
Seeing the various rivalries and squabbles between the archery styles, I'm happy to say I enjoy all three. I started with a compound, and I love nailing a two inch target 5 out of 6 times. But an old shoulder injury is making it hard to hold the bow with my arm at full extension, so I'm practising with a recurve, both with and without a sight. And its all fun, in different ways.
I shoot both, and have for a long time. One thing that has not been mentioned is arrow technology. Arrows have progressed so much in the last 30 years. Wood, fiberglass, aluminum carbon, carbon laminated over aluminum. Barrel shaped (tapered). A recurve with composite limbs and a cnc machined riser, shooting one of these high tech arrows (think olympic style) is a highly technical machine, as is a compound. You may choose to shoot traditional classes with stick bows and wooden arrows. Have fun and shoot whatever appeals to you! Most archery clubs are very friendly and will help you and guide you through the learning curve.
All these years later your video is so appropriate, I've always asked myself why did I get a recurve? I have always been frustrated seeing compound shooters stacking nearly every arrow on the X. Today I shot my recurve with a bigger smile on my face. Thanks for this great timeless video. It is fun to see how far crossbows have come in 4 years, mine is like an assault rifle but slower. :P
Personally, I'd prefer to use a more natural bow like a Recurve or Longbow. I'm only 25 (at the time this was written), but at heart I feel like one of those bitter old men who's like "YOU DARN KIDS AND YOUR NEWFANGLED COMPOUNDER BOWS! WHAD'YA NEED ALL THEM BELLS N' WHISTLES FER ANYWAY?!"
+S.A.M. I'm one-o-them bitter old men , sonnyboy, and I love compound bows! I loved 'em when they were first invented, and they've gotten better every decade or two since. :)
+S.A.M. At the end of the day all that matters is that you enjoy shooting. Shoot whichever bow style you get the most enjoyment from and if anybody has any problems with it then tell them to go stick it where the sun don't shine.
Or shoot a arrow in there arse will do they some job :)
I love my recurve bow. Had a man standing less than 10 feet from me he dry drawed his compound and did not release but it exploded.... I was hit buy a pulley.... Felt n ad for him. He had just bought it.
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Was he drawing it with his fingers or was he actually using a release aid?
My money is on him drawing with his fingers and that he torqued the string enough to derail it, essentially he twisted the string instead of allowing it to remain vertical and it pulled the string sideways off one of the cams which caused a catastrophic failure of the bow.
Sounds good. I think if I was going to hunt with a bow I'd want to train with a Compound Bow for the sake of precision, but seeing as I'm only going to shoot at targets in my backyard for fun a recurve bow is right for me. I like the physical aspect of archery.
I fucking love you man. I was wondering whole my life (Im 21 now) if I should buy a bow and after this video i Decided! Im gonna buy a Recurve Bow! Saw ur other vid with archery basic learning and Im sure it helps alot! THANKS!
I'd say, if you want to get good at archery, develop good form and good habits by starting off with a recurve and once you're good, then move on to a compound.
Best of both worlds.
I agree completely!
i agree but imo i think a recurve without all the stablizers and stuff on the Olympic type recurves is what people should start on before they go compound or high tech recurve with all that stuff on it
you people are ignorant bow fundamentalists it's actually ridiculous. let people shoot whatever bow they enjoy. how can you be such ignorant and obnoxious snobs??
@@cutiepie338 I think you COMPLETELY miss the point... It's not about snobbery or being fundamentalist. It's about the fact that if you want good shooting habits like stance, release etc. As a beginner you don't need the extra stuff to focus on. Regardless of the type of archery you choose, your stance and release will ALWAYS be the most important factors. Once you got that nailed down you can move on to using different kinds of equipment on differnet bows if that's what you want. If you want to learn driving a F1 car, it would propably be wise to start in a go kart. Same thing
Good video!
I'm a recurve shooter mainly because the purity and simplicity of the bow appeals to me, and I just enjoys shooting the bow and working on my performance without the technology getting in the way.
Maybe in the future I will look more into compound archery just to spice things up and try something different but for now Im very happy focusing on recurves.
I bought my children recurve bows a few years ago. After several trips to the range they were uninterested in the discipline. I on the other hand owned a handmade Mongolian recurve horsebow. Recently I purchased my children compound bows. Also purchasing a modern takedown recurve for myself. My boys proved efficiency with their compounds and thus far have found a greatly renewed interest in archery. As an experienced classical archer. I too have found a greatly enhanced accuracy with my new modern 70lb draw recurve. I attempted to utilize my oldest sons compound bow. Which ended with laughable results. I'm not bias towards either discipline. I simply found that years of muscle memory with my recurve, made it nearly impossible to adjust to compounds. I thank you greatly for your informative channel and continue to enjoy every video you produce.
much love and respect for this video! I wish i had seen it when i was trying to explain my passion for the activity/sport/etc.
for me, Im not worried about perfection or being famously great at hitting mark.
feeling the arrow leap forward, seeing and hearing the impact of hitting your target or box, is uniquely meditative and fun.
it is just very freeing and wonderful to learn & explore, especially since there are so many variations/ bow types & styles.
archery is beautiful in all its forms. But my first loves are recurve and other traditional bows.
I tested archery decades ago. While I had no problems drawing a recurve bow , holding it steady for aiming was impossible as my hand was fluttering like a leaf. No issues with a compound bow. Dropped the effort altogether.
Well I kinda though that I didn't really like compound bows before, now I get why, they're too artificial for what I like about archery, so I'd definitely go for a recurve bow.
Shoot both. Youll be shooting the roots of the bow, and also shooting cutting edge archery tech.
DanSparrow I disagree, a recurve bow is just an inaccurate, inefficient weapon. A compound bow on the other hand is efficient, consistent, and accurate. And is just more fun. Each to their own I suppose.
Can someone tell me the make and model of the compound bow at 0:22?
Oh4Chrissake that is the "Hoyt hpx" with the "Hoyt quatro" limbs, if this would be your first bow this is expensive. Altho this model is old i think you still need to pay around 600 euro for the 2nd hand riser alone, 2nd hand limbs of this kind are also around 300-400. So this is high end (the bow is a 2015 model i think) . If i where you (i presume you are a starter) i would go for a cheaper bow. Because you still need to buy arrows and vizor and everything. I recomend you buy samic or win&win they have good middle end bows.
@ Bart Zijtveld Many thanks.
Helped me in determining the purchase of my first bow. Been mostly drawn towards recurve the whole time, this sealed the deal. Bought the Optimo+ SF bow. Can't wait to get it!
Remember to consider that fact that he only shoots recurve and therefore biased.
thank you for providing me with an accurate description of why I have chosen the recurve over the compound. though but are good in their own ways, feeling that I put my own effort into each shot is far more satisfying
Very well said.
Having myself started on a compound and after a couple of years, then buying a recurve. One of the toughest things I found was accepting the inherent inaccuracies of the recurve, not simply having a screw to turn to get the arrow to land where I think it should, and wondering if it is my bad form or simply tuning/setup issues.
Then I discovered "stumping", perfect for a low pound recurve/ long bow, a nice walk through the forest, and the target is much bigger :)
Very helpful. When I started class last month they were throwing these terms around and I had no idea what they were talking about.
Great Video. I am planning to start achery as new hobby soon and this has really helped me to make a decision between bows. Im a computer programmer that is also very into fitness, for me life is all about developing myself and my skills. Seems like recurve allows me to enjoy the sport and progression most.
30# is a good starting weight for an adult. I also shot 18-28# club bows for around 8 weeks before I got my first bow, which was a 34#. There's nothing wrong with using a lighter bow, especially to learn with. Heavier limbs will generally perform better, but it requires more strength and control, and it will punish you for poor form.
I don't understand why Archery is a competitive sport , when you use 3 foot long stabilizers , sights , and releases. It's like being handicapped. Where would you be without all that?
You still have to get the arrow on target. The aids keep the bow steady and pointed in the right direction, but the technique and method behind the shot is the same as with a traditional bow. The only difference is that the grouping is expected to be smaller because of the reduced variables, which is why most competitions are at 70. Take the stabilisers and the sights away, and you have barebow shooting, which is the same sport - only with a lower average score.
Criticising archery for having stabilisers is like criticising cars for having power steering. It doesn't change the way you drive; it only makes it easier.
Using a trad bow is what is handicapped, cause it is less consistent and more luck dependent. There is a reason Recuve style is the olympic event and trad archery isn't. It takes LOTS of practice to be good even with stabilizers and stuff. And let me tell you we would be pretty good even without the "gadgets" as well! ;) Recurve shooter myself, you should go to your local archery club and try some shooting some day and learn for yourself.
pelleban i tot an recurve, compound and traditional, i hit the Bulls eye more often then with modern, Its a way beter experience to shoot a self bow than modern, modern bow users do it for hitting the target. Traditional archers do it for the experience, and that doesnt mean they cant hit a target. And if you want to be accured without much effort, get a gun.
pelleban
recurve is traditional archery
ricky spanish
Not all recurves are traditional.
Coming from the traditional recurve, switched to compound bow shooting, I have to say, that whatever bow you shoot, it's always working on the form! If you want to have good and repeatable results, you have to train your body and mind.
The only difference for me: the compound bow with it's strict draw length and "wall" gives me the opportunity to get over my target panic. ;-)
good summary. I shoot compound and it is perfect for me. I love the tech, the trigger release, the sight and how I need to perfect my hold, stability, core strength, breathing, and every other minute detail to get myself into that consistent zone. the smallest variation in my anchor, or head tilt, or holding hand will cause variation in the shot. Compound shooting allows me to find my center, my stability, and my inner peace to perfect my shot. The biggest difference is that I shoot at smaller targets and longer distances. Just a different path to the same joy of archery
Nice comparison. Recurve is way better in a long term SHTF period as they require almost no maintenance by comparison to a compound and if a string did break, one could actually be made that worked. I live in central canada, where you can darn near hunt deer with a sledgehammer at times :P. They'll frequently come between 10-15m, so many. get good enough to reliably hit a tennis ball/beer can at 20 yards and you're good to go. A recurve is all I've ever used, but you're right, if you don't stay on it and shoot high volume, you will drop in accuracy. I've shot compounds before and I fully understand their advantages. I really enjoyed using a recurve bow on gophers as a kid, again, most were 15m or under and a gopher is about the size of a tall-boy beer can, that translates really well into 'boiler room' for a deer. Shot placement is obviously super important and knowing your limitations as a shooter when hunting, sometimes you just need to enjoy watching them if they won't come in close enough or if the shot is messy (bushes, sticks, crap in the way).
Nice to see a vid that explains the differences instead of bashing one or the other. Bought a used compound off a coworker and I got the bug. Probably going to get a newer compound and a recurve. Be warned it's addictive and you will spend more money.
wow, excellently covered, especially the feeling around both types of archery. I'd say I'm leaning towards the compound myself, due to the higher accuracy and power. .. there are downsides of course. I did olympic air rifle shooting, where you have to get 10 shots through the same hole basically.
I have never heard someone explain it as well as you just did. I dont think anyone can put it any better :) amazing video as always!
Hey man, I have just recently gotten into archery, i have been shooting compound for 3 months now, i find your videos really helpful. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Canada
Thanks for the insight into recurve and compound shooting. You've made the choice easy for me, I'll stick with the recurve.
Really, really, REALLY good video!
This was exactly what it needed to be. Concise and informative.
Well done man!
I like the feeling of connection with the recurve bow. Even the sound of the bow offers feedback. It's simple and elegant.
shuumai the moments an arrow leaves the riser and is thrown target-wards
Excellent articulation and thank you - this has been very helpful to me in my decision making. I see parallels with photographic debates that rage on. Perhaps towards the longbow end of the scale we shoot large format when we want to be immersed in all the elements of image making - every step is a manual one and to achieve success requires a lot of patience, some luck and lots of practice (not to mention the costs). At the other end of the scale, perhaps more the compound end, we shoot digital when we need quick, predictable results. A range of similar skills are needed for all formats to achieve great images but as per another comment - I like the summary: the art of execution (longbow/large format photography), the art of aiming (compound/digital). Phew - that was a lot of words. Cheers and thank you from Sydney, Australia - Dave
This was helpful. I am a newb and was leaning towards recurve but this sealed the deal! Thanks!
Hi , used to be a traditional archer mostly but that was 20 years ago , have started again recently, but my joints doesn't seem to agree with me, so have been going down the compound root and keeping things as close to bare bow as possible no sights etc and still find it as fun as a trad bow, however maybe over time I can switch back to traditional so for me there is a place for both styles of bow, always good to see your video's
I've been shooting compound for about two years and really enjoy it. I have wanted to shoot recurve, but because of the cost factors of switching all my equipment, I will stay with compound for a while. Yes it is true that a recurve is harder to get used to and pick up, compound target shooting isn't what I would call easy.
When you are far from the target, you have to be very steady and since it is less instinctive because of the the more precise sights (target recurves generally have sights too) you generally take longer to aim and it then becomes more difficult to hold the pin on the target, and it can be very mentally challenging. Your head can definitely get in the way of shooting. That being said, proper form is also very important and bad form can lead to inconsistent shooting even with whatever aids you may have. It is very important that you keep your form and anchors constant, or else you can end up with very varied results.
I have never shot a recurve bow for really more than an hour so I am not very experienced with it, but they are very different and I don't think it is fair to call it the "more challenging" or "more rewarding" sport because they can both be challenging. The way I see it is compound is easier to pick up and harder to master and recurve is harder to pick up and easier to master, similar to skiing and snowboarding.
I totally agree with you on recurve. I haven't ever shot a compound bow but I like the shot process when shooting recurve. You get a lot of feedback from the bow which I really like. Compound seems really stressful when aiming for a ten on every shot
Funny thing is that I am looking for a recurve for hunting because I want to challenge myself more. I love firearms and I have used them for roughly 15 years. But I want to have a better understanding of how skilled you had to be in old times to use simpler weapons. Upon studying while shopping, I have grown more fascinated by how much you can actually adjust and practice on to get a more accurate bow and arrows. I am definitely going to get a recurve first. But I might want to try a compound later. Thanks for all the info that you upload!
Another thing to consider, if you have a recurve (especially a take down recurve), it's a lot easier to transport the bow. I've got a Bear longbow, and while I love shooting it, unstrung, it's basically a 6' long stick. This makes it a pain in the ass to bring to the range with me, and as a result, it doesn't get the time it deserves.
I shoot both recurve and compound. Similar to what you mentioned, the reason I chose to add training with a compound bow is the added accuracy and speed. Both have pros and cons and I thoroughly enjoy each in their own right.
Crossbows are fun too
Great video, but I'm not sure if I agree entirely with your differentiation. Compound = results count, Recurve = the process counts. If you look at competitive recurve archery, it's not the form that's being judged, but the score you get. Just like with compound archery. And the fact that such a result driven event as the Olympic games only has recurve archery, points in the same direction. I do both and I enjoy both at different times.
Edit: In fact I actually often feel exactly the opposite way. With my compound I know that I will hit within a few inches of the X even at long range and therefore the process of shooting (form, breathing, clean release ...) is more important to me since I don't have to worry about the result. With my recurve I focus on the process in order to obtain a good result because it is so much more difficult. I hope that makes sense. I can't explain it any other way.
I'm not really saying that "process counts" for recurves. Process is important for both compound and recurve - more so for compound because of the requirement of perfect shot execution. Rather, recurve shooters enjoy the process side of archery while compound shooters enjoy hitting the X. In the end, you're both scoring points, but the focus in getting those points is different.
I like the psycologic aproach you make towards the mind of each timpe of archer, it is usually overlooked. Best regards from mexico
I've goten myself a PrimalGear compact folding survival bow CFSB-1 55# as my first bow and i totally love it. Technically is a (survival situation) folding longbow with absolutelly no aids at all for shooting. The harder the shot the more i was compelled into archery that's why i got that and not a compound bow. (plus the portabillity, i can have it under my jacket without anyone noticing it when folded)
Now I'm planning to train myself to shoot instinctively and fast through different positions and different variations like moving targets, while running walking jumping etc. Probably i became this guy you talked about who would buy the greater poundage as a first bow. But i can take it. I get tired after a hundred shots or so and it's my first week on archery. I've probably took about 250 shots till now so i'm a newbie. You should do a review on this bow one day. There's a lot of hype around it already and sells like crazy! Keep on the good work on your channel
Crossbows are illegal here in Australia
I'm currently shooting compound, not because i love technology and such, because i love the feel more than recurve
I went for a compound last month when it came time to get my own bow.
I enjoyed recurve in the 6-7 months previous time at my archery club but when it came time to get my own bow, the compound just felt right in my hands after trying out another club members bow.
Till that point, I was positive I was going to get a recurve.
One worry I had was that I would be shooting 10x all day long with the compound from day one...but happily no, Im not that good..lol(yet). I have to practise and practise is bringing results.
You are right thou about it being more tense in comp, a 8 is a bad shot! but when shooting(practise) at the club or at home I just clear my mind and try to enjoy the process like I did with recurve. I fully believe archery is 90% mind, if Im not level...I could be 4 feet away and miss.
I think its a case of budget and what feels right.
I shoot all styles: Compound, Olympic, Barebow and Traditional. I enjoy shooting them all as they all require their own necessary skill sets. Now, as you can guess, I'm not a master in any class, but I do pretty well. My daughter who is 10 was shooting barebow, and was moving on to using a sight. she loves shooting 3D, and was becoming 'bored' with her recurve , so she switched to compound to maintain her interest in the sport. For me personally, the competition and tournament shoots are about bettering your personal best, and having fun with fellow archers of all ages. Get out there, have some fun, and don't forget to have some humility too. BTW I enjoy your videos.
Compound FTW! I like my arrow to end up vhere i'm aiming it.
Thank you Professor, very informative. I think I like Re-curve over Compound Bows now.
woww... that's answering my long time question,,, and now i know most of the bow hunters prefer the compound..
I am a new shooter and I have a long bow which my dad bought just for fun. I have always thought compound looked absolutely amazing and that it woul be my first bow I would buy for sure. But after learning about all the differences I know recurve is the right choice for me at this moment and compound will follow when I save up enough money for second bow.
Very informative perfect information thank you! 👍🎯 On a different interesting note, and a little informative story for you guys, I'm a first-time Archer and fortunately I watched videos before buying my first Bow and come to find out even though I'm left-handed, I'm RIGHT eye dominant. (go figure 🤷♂️) Initially since I'm left-handed I was obviously just going to get a left-handed bow. I'm glad I did a little more research before I went off and did that, and through videos learned the importance of finding your dominant eye, and how to find the dominant eye before purchasing a bow Now I'm an happy onwer of a Right hand compound bow and a crossbow. and fyi let me tell you the crossbow is a completely different Beast 😲🎯 . hopefully that helps people before getting their first bow, knowing what eye is dominant it drastically affects your aim. And the last thing you want to do is spend money on a left-handed bow when you really need a right-hand one
The answer is BOTH! Have fun! Enjoy! And shoot straight~
Damn right son
But... traditional is more for real men
+Garth S technically you can't shoot straight, due to the bend of the arrow.
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He's right you know...
I actually coach recurve and shoot compound.
Though one needs to choose one focus when going competitive as some habits and form don't carry over too well.
I find my anchor point becoming very messy after shooting one or the other for a while.
Also...
Now I have an image of a recurve compound bow...
Shoot both at the same time :D
Amen!!! Great video, great theory, great breakdown of the characteristics of both type of shooters. Great video all around.
you rock... i just got a compound and i can already hit bulleyes at 40 yards first day of shooting ever.. what fun
You're basically saying compounds are more accurate but re curves need a greater understanding of archery to be perfect.
I love both - Compund and recurve. I love the modern look that's why I have a compound bow , also i got recurve but taken from the lowest shelf in store - it's made of plastic( about 15 lbs :D heh..yea) Strength, precision, appearance - rawrrr :D but that doesn't mean that I'm not a fan of recurve bows !! I have always been fascinated with archery . I started my adventure and collection few months ago. Thanks for the many videos with tips !!
Very informative. I’ll be purchasing a Recurve Bow in the next few weeks. Regards from South Africa .
I'm fairly new to shooting, but I already have mixed feelings as to which style I prefer.
I loved my compound, it was a second hand martin.
I was grouping fairly well for a backyard learner until it broke down on me.
Although I'm not as good with a recurve, I find it so much more fun because I'm always trying to improve and adjust to old habits that developed when I was starting out.
more concentration is needed, I like that it takes as much focus as it does.
in future I'll definitely be shooting predominately recurve.
From a hunting standpoint I will just say it doesn't matter. Why? 'cause 90% of the people I see (this goes for firearms as well) don't practice enough and the weapon is going to outshoot the skill of the shooter all the time. People just need to shoot more in the off season.
I got good with both recurve and compound in a few months. What it really boils down to is form. You need good form to shoot either recurve or compound, if you have bad form, it will result in a bad shot regardless of the type of bow.
loved the video, great detail and info to point a potential noob archer in the right direction. ty
Just went and bought my first recurve, wish me luck, I'm going all in, foking love it
Hi. I started archery not that long ago and I bought myself an entry level takedown recurve. I decided to take the instinctive traditional approach. Compound bows is expensive, and I am not fan of the Olympic style archery with all the rods sticking out. I talk to different kinds of archers and I try to listen to their philosophy and hopefully improve my skill.
bought my recurve today. taking it out to slay some carp tomorrow. Pretty stoked.
I love my compound bows. I get very cranky if i miss even 1 day of shooting. Might grab a recurve bow 1 day, mix it up a bit. Love your videos mate
Now Add in the lever bow!! How does a lever bow compare to the recurve or compound?
Excellent video. I shoot recurve. Love the feel of it and the art of the setup and consistency.
i am new to this, and i want to have fun improving my skills...so i will def go with a recurve...plus they look way more classy and classic! thanks for the video!
I find true love n beauty in my recurve traditional bow. My compound bow has been resting under my bed for many years.
Great explanation. Thanks. For me archery is much more about tradition than technology, so +1 for recurve
I've noticed too that the compound bow cannot launch as many arrows per minute as a recurve bow. In other words, the Mongolians would have lost many battles, if they had to use the compound bow in combat.
This would be mostly because of the technical sensitivity of the compound bow rather than its slower rate of fire. It's not too bad on foot, but on a horse, the movement would probably cause you to torque the bow and derail the cables.
+DinkiDidog The mongols didn't use recurves either. their "horse bows" looked like a characature of a recurve, less than half the height with tips curling so far around they almost hit the riser.LOL. and the way they shot was more like a compound, using a mechanical release aid called a "thumb ring".
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It was probably about the factors that you speak of and more... I'm not an expert. I don't know anything.
+NUSensei * I don't think you thought this through. The compound bows we use are not designed for this type of combat, but they can be. The compound bow can be drawn and released as quickly as a recurve bow, and the rails could be made deeper and Ved to discourage a derail. Its all a matter of using the right design and set up. The compound bow's control, greater power, let-off, and smaller size would be an asset.
I shot a recurve bow my grandpa made several years and have wanted one since. finally planning to get a recurve!
I'd like to give you the main reason why I chose a compound over a trad or a recurve.
I shot olympic recurves for 6 years before a shoulder injury. 5 years later I restarted archery, feeling my shoulder would be good shape.
I do archery mainly for hunting nowadays, so I had to choose between traditionnal and compounds. I went with a compound because I was unsure of my draw weight and at what speed I would be increasing the draw weight. The compound I got is a 5 (five) - 70# one-size-fits-all kind of bow and I started at 30lbs. 4 months later, I'm at 57lbs. That would have been around 5 set of limbs or so?
Some compounds allow to "grow into" the bow which is what brought me to chose a compound.
Victor Desrosiers Ah, you must have bought the Diamond Infinite Edge. It's a great bow that I have been looking at for quite some time. The adjustability is great - I wish I had bought it first instead of my recurve. I love traditional archery, but these new limbs every few months are getting expensive! I would've been better off getting the recurve after I had built up my strength.
+Borascythe yea, infinite edge is a good one:) And cheap!
I have a recursive and love it because it disciplines me and teaches me what I'm doing wrong so now as I have been using it for years it has become natural
glad I watched this video. I'm still trying to get the hang of my recurve bow and am starting to get frustrated because I expected my compound experience to have helped me out a bit. Maybe it made things worse for me lol
Funny enough, I had thought of it, but I accidentally edited that part out. You are right: many older archers prefer compound because of physical limitations. That said, many will still swear by recurve; either because they have the fitness or they use a lighter poundage.
Starting out, I didn't have a good experience with recurves. My fingers hurt like hell and my forearm was blue-black from string slaps. So I tried compound bows... presto zero pain... and I could shoot all day. I haven't looked back since. Maybe I'll come back to recurves in the future.
This video is can share for many knowledge for all archery interested person
Thanks for that. We are trying to decide what kind of bow to buy for our son. I think we will go with the recurve.
Remember to consider that fact that he only shoots recurve and therefore biased.
that's not a bad idea. it's like guitar. I've (not mastered, by a long shot, but) gotten good at both acoustic (6 & 12 string) & electric (6 string). when someone tells me they want to learn guitar, I tell them learn on acoustic. much harder & requires MUCH more physical effort. get good on that? electric is a walk in the park. learn on electric? & you have to re-learn EVERYTHING on the acoustic. cut your teeth on the rock. it makes the steak THAT much sweeter ;)
I suppose the compound bow is more efficient at hunting. A missed shot can wound the animal, it can wander off and die without being found. However, traditional and primitive archers do hunt, yet require more hunting skills and a good hunter isn't going to take a questionable shot.
Excellent overview. Thanks - really useful!!
I chose a low poundage compound bow because although I wanted to get back in to archery after an absence of 30 years I had to accept my limitations due to both physical and medical problems. This being said I bought a 30-40lb compound bow to take part in ABA competition (as there is no Archery Australia club in my area (Darwin). Just another reason for a persons choice.
i have a compound Bow in a survival take down Recurve bow i shoot both but i prefer the Recurve bow
Hi, I know the video is old but anyway... i want to comment on this. You are makeing a distinction between recurve and compound. But I think actually there are two things to consider - recurve vs. compound AND aming aid (like scope) vs. intuitive.
I'm shooting a compound without intuitive (no scope and my "big" one compound also without release - absolute pure). Anyone saying this is much easier than recuve shooting hasn't done so. Anyone saying you get better results - never tried.
I's a common mistake to assume compound means also shooting with sight (scope) - but that's not the case - and boy - it makes a HUGE difference.
The difference in my opinion is when is your main concentration phase. With recurve you normally do have to conentrate before the shot - To hold all the power fully drawn and concentrate then is very hard. With a compound bow - as I see it - concentration happens manly when in full draw. That - for me - is the main difference.
I wish everyone happy shooting - try both and find out what you like most.
Nice comprehensive overview. Very helpful.
I'm just starting and I'm finding your clips very informative.
Thank you and keep up the good work.
One reason to use a recurve over a compound bow is that if you actually hunt with the bow you don't get explosive derailments when carrying it through the woods. That was a big factor in my choice because I get into some pretty hairy places and the last thing I need is to be injured by my equipment in the middle of nowhere.
If you could make a video on tips on learning archery from home that'd be great. I live in Philadelphia so there are no clubs in the immediate vicinity but I really want to learn.