My Astro is 94 awd shorty. You must use a AC Delco fuel pump. Anything other than a GM pump you are asking for it. When the non GM pumps get around 20 thousand miles on them you can here the bearings in them groaning at least 15 feet away from the van. This is your first warning to save up for a new pump. I get around 30k with the aftermarkets pumps, but around 100k with the GM pumps. Good luck.
@metalmoto Sorry,The 96-02 Astros used the sequential (CSFI) SCPI. The video shows the 92-95 multiport (CMFI) version of the CPI unit. The heads and intake manifold are very different also. You could have a bad fuel regulator or even a stuck open injector dumping fuel. The next time it floods pull the spark plugs one at a time. The plugs that are soaked in fuel indicate bad injector or bad spark to that plug. If they are all soaked look towards the regulator or lack of spark to the plugs.
@kkool1984 Once you remove the retaining bolt from the fuel line, the job will go a lot quicker on s-10s. Raw fuel, or black smoke from your exhaust could point to a bad CPI system.
My fuel pump failed and after replacing it and the screen and filter, it idles rough (chugs) and just doesn't run the way it should. I have come to the conclusion that the pressure relief valve has failed due to the increased fuel pressure (and the fact that the Astro van is 19 years old). Thank you for your video, it will help greatly when tearing it down and reassembling.
@ThePakPatriot My van had good days and bad days. On the good days the Astro would run great, but on bad days I would get the raw fuel through the exhaust also. This would happen two to three times a week, and only on the first start of the day.
@tinacay The ecu does get the signal to fire the injector from the distributor. In the past when the module went so did the spark. Should only cost around $30.00 and it can't hurt having an extra one if it's not the problem. No injector needed.
Sounds like my problem too. I'm only getting 9 MPG, missing, rough idle, strong gas smell from exhaust, and sometimes no start (like today). It tries to run, but seems to be flooded. Strong gas smell and white vapors coming out of air cleaner when opened. Wait a while and it will start, runs really rough at first. I guess until excess fuel clears out? 01 Astro 127000 miles. Your reply is greatly appreciated.
@tinacay You have two of the big three(Compression,spark,but no fuel) that are needed for your car to run. Your lack of signal to the injector could be a few things. I would test the injector harness for voltage while cranking. You should have some sort of reading as the engine cranks. If voltage is not getting to the injector, trace the wires and look for bad spots. If you are getting voltage at the harness then it is probably the injector. It should ohm out around 1.5. Good hunting.
@tinacay It takes that amount of psi for the fuel to get past the poppet valves. Anything less and they will not open. The poppet valves are mechanical.
@JayDanYell Just take the doghouse off and have a look with the engine running. If your van is leaking that much oil, you should be able to see where the source right away. It could be anything,oil sending unit,oil filter,valve cover, timing cover, intake manifold. Good luck.
Why does the plenum gskt not fully encircle the 6 holes? I just replaced my spider and I think the gskt. I installed did fully encircle those 6 holes. What could happen ?
Do you happen to have a before video of the van with the rough idle? Also did you use red RTV silicone gasket maker to seal the intake manifold or a specific gasket
Sorry no before videos of the idle, but the leak was the main problem. I didn't use any gasket maker at all. The gaskets all worked great without it. Retired the van at 283K and drove it to the junkyard. (Rusty frame)
The prices have changed over the years but amazon has the injector and summit racing has the now discontinued fuel line kit. GB Remanufacturing #833-22101 Fuel Injector AC Delco #17112705 fuel line kit.
i know that on the front left side of your id of top intake you show idle speed controler (isc) but i have replaced that on mine and it is not isc, it is a iac (idle air controller).
@aode06 "1. Upgrade to the electronic FUEL INJECTED spider and not the MANUAL POPPET that you had before. NOTHING IS REQUIRED, DIRECT BOLT IN, NO ECM MODS ETC AT ALL." Do you know if this will work on a 1994 Astro Van as well?
Translation.(It was well done, but I understood. I am from Mexico my question is because in my truck when I opened the spider I had a lot of oil). The extra oil is probably just sludge build up over the years of use. Should not be a problem at all. If the sludge is excessive, remove as much as possible before you reassemble everything. Good luck. Translation.(Es probable que el aceite extra sea solo lodo acumulado durante los años de uso. No debería ser un problema en absoluto. Si el lodo es excesivo, elimine la mayor cantidad posible antes de volver a montar todo. Buena suerte.)
could you please tell me if the new replacement injector comes with o-rings at the poppet nozzles. i have a jimmy 96 and i´m trying to figure out what am i doing wrong. i removed the whole injector assembly and did not see any o-rings at the tip of the nozzels so i don´t know if there should be any. the truck is consuming so much gas that you can smell it coming out the tail pipe
i bought the spyder same company but im missing the fuel lines did u use silicon for the plenum ? great vídeo by the way i have a 95 chevy blazer. greeting from México tnx
@DawgcityClev If nothing is seized up, I would say one to two hours. Watch the front center upper intake bolt that's right behind the idle speed controller. It may have a lot of carbon build-up on it from the EGR system, and could strip or snap. Take your time. (Mine seized at the halfway point)
So my 1999 astro van is leaking oil in a monumental way. Basically pouring out when the engine is running. I think it's probably a valve cover gasket, but I've never gotten into the engine. Is this going to be doable by a guy with basic "replace the parts" ability or should I pop for the repair shop to tackle it? Thanks for any advice.
I have a question that maybe somebody out there can answer I have a 1995 Chevy Astro van and I just had a new cat converter put on it yesterday and over the past three months I have replaced everything that's replaceable on that motor from the EGR valve to a brand new cap and rotor plug wires and plugs I put a brand new fuel pump in it I change the O2 sensor and I change the fuel filter. Now here's what my problem is when I push the gas pedal down to accelerate it acts like it's not getting the proper fuel to give me the proper horsepower so what could the problem be
I had this problem. Mine only had the problem when the fuel tank was 3/4 full or less. If the fuel level went to 1/4 tank the van wouldn't even start. Turns out the cheap plastic fuel pump to sending unit rubber hose clamps (which came with the new pump)were not up to the job and were leaking off fuel pressure. I replaced the plastic hose clamps with the traditional metal worm type and it solved the problem. I did a fuel pressure check to find the problem.
local701 Well it's just driving me crazy trying to figure out what's wrong with my van without putting it in the shop. If I can't find the problem by searching it on UA-cam then I don't know what to do and I definitely do not want to drop my fuel tank again just to replace some clamps. But thank you for your information in regards to why my van might not be running right. Hopefully I will figure out this problem so I can make it to St Augustine Beach Florida
These are the BEST vehicle repair videos I have seen to date!!! Thank you for taking the time to record so thoroughly! You're awesome!!!
The engine ran like new. I have put another 37k on the clock since this video and it still runs like a champ.
Awesome video took me about 4 hours to take everything apart. Just waiting for rockauto to deliver..
My Astro is 94 awd shorty.
You must use a AC Delco fuel pump. Anything other than a GM pump you are asking for it.
When the non GM pumps get around 20 thousand miles on them you can here the bearings in them groaning at least 15 feet away from the van. This is your first warning to save up for a new pump. I get around 30k with the aftermarkets pumps, but around 100k with the GM pumps. Good luck.
@metalmoto Sorry,The 96-02 Astros used the sequential (CSFI) SCPI. The video shows the 92-95 multiport (CMFI) version of the CPI unit. The heads and intake manifold are very different also. You could have a bad fuel regulator or even a stuck open injector dumping fuel. The next time it floods pull the spark plugs one at a time. The plugs that are soaked in fuel indicate bad injector or bad spark to that plug. If they are all soaked look towards the regulator or lack of spark to the plugs.
Doing my 1995 Astro work van this week.Same exact thing.Great video.Hope mine goes as smooth! Thanks
@kkool1984 Once you remove the retaining bolt from the fuel line, the job will go a lot quicker on s-10s.
Raw fuel, or black smoke from your exhaust could point to a bad CPI system.
Great job..... now, I'm not afraid to do mine. Thanks for your time and expertice
My fuel pump failed and after replacing it and the screen and filter, it idles rough (chugs) and just doesn't run the way it should. I have come to the conclusion that the pressure relief valve has failed due to the increased fuel pressure (and the fact that the Astro van is 19 years old). Thank you for your video, it will help greatly when tearing it down and reassembling.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU,THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU...
@ThePakPatriot My van had good days and bad days. On the good days the Astro would run great, but on bad days I would get the raw fuel through the exhaust also.
This would happen two to three times a week, and only on the first start of the day.
@tinacay
The ecu does get the signal to fire the injector from the distributor.
In the past when the module went so did the spark. Should only cost around $30.00 and it can't hurt having an extra one if it's not the problem. No injector needed.
Sounds like my problem too. I'm only getting 9 MPG, missing, rough idle, strong gas smell from exhaust, and sometimes no start (like today). It tries to run, but seems to be flooded. Strong gas smell and white vapors coming out of air cleaner when opened. Wait a while and it will start, runs really rough at first. I guess until excess fuel clears out? 01 Astro 127000 miles. Your reply is greatly appreciated.
Great video! This will help out a ton!
Thanks for showing this. I think I have to replace the one on my Astro Van. Helped me out a lot. Thanks.
@tinacay
I think the regulator has to have a reading of at least 55 psi for the injector to fire. Your fuel pressure may not be enough.
@tinacay
You have two of the big three(Compression,spark,but no fuel) that are needed for your car to run. Your lack of signal to the injector could be a few things. I would test the injector harness for voltage while cranking. You should have some sort of reading as the engine cranks. If voltage is not getting to the injector, trace the wires and look for bad spots. If you are getting voltage at the harness then it is probably the injector. It should ohm out around 1.5. Good hunting.
@tinacay
It takes that amount of psi for the fuel to get past the poppet valves. Anything less and they will not open.
The poppet valves are mechanical.
Nice work Sir
@808hatem
It's not that bad of a job, just take your time and don't rush like I did.
Good luck.
@JayDanYell Just take the doghouse off and have a look with the engine running. If your van is leaking that much oil, you should be able to see where the source right away. It could be anything,oil sending unit,oil filter,valve cover, timing cover, intake manifold. Good luck.
Why does the plenum gskt not fully encircle the 6 holes? I just replaced my spider and I think the gskt. I installed did fully encircle those 6 holes. What could happen ?
Yes Sir. The gasket is suppose to encircle all six holes. If not you may get a vacuum leak resulting in a rough idle.
Child, in background: "Where does he have to put the shots on" lol 😆
Do you happen to have a before video of the van with the rough idle? Also did you use red RTV silicone gasket maker to seal the intake manifold or a specific gasket
Sorry no before videos of the idle, but the leak was the main problem.
I didn't use any gasket maker at all. The gaskets all worked great without it.
Retired the van at 283K and drove it to the junkyard. (Rusty frame)
@@local701 Man I hope I can get close to those amount of miles currently only 64,000 original miles and still rust free on a 95
hi, i'm from croatia i should catalog part numbers you bought. or a link from the page where you ordered. thank you very much
The prices have changed over the years but amazon has the injector and summit racing has the now discontinued fuel line kit.
GB Remanufacturing #833-22101 Fuel Injector
AC Delco #17112705 fuel line kit.
i know that on the front left side of your id of top intake you show idle speed controler (isc) but i have replaced that on mine and it is not isc, it is a iac (idle air controller).
@aode06
"1. Upgrade to the electronic FUEL INJECTED spider and not the MANUAL POPPET that you had before. NOTHING IS REQUIRED, DIRECT BOLT IN, NO ECM MODS ETC AT ALL."
Do you know if this will work on a 1994 Astro Van as well?
Estuvo bien echo pero un entendí soy de México mi pregunta es porque en mi camioneta al abrir la araña tenia mucho aceite
Translation.(It was well done, but I understood. I am from Mexico my question is because in my truck when I opened the spider I had a lot of oil). The extra oil is probably just sludge build up over the years of use. Should not be a problem at all. If the sludge is excessive, remove as much as possible before you reassemble everything. Good luck. Translation.(Es probable que el aceite extra sea solo lodo acumulado durante los años de uso. No debería ser un problema en absoluto. Si el lodo es excesivo, elimine la mayor cantidad posible antes de volver a montar todo. Buena suerte.)
Should have one the intake at the same time.
could you please tell me if the new replacement injector comes with o-rings at the poppet nozzles. i have a jimmy 96 and i´m trying to figure out what am i doing wrong. i removed the whole injector assembly and did not see any o-rings at the tip of the nozzels so i don´t know if there should be any. the truck is consuming so much gas that you can smell it coming out the tail pipe
HEY DID YOU NOTICE ANY IMPROVEMENTS DID IT RUN BETTER?
i bought the spyder same company but im missing the fuel lines did u use silicon for the plenum ? great vídeo by the way i have a 95 chevy blazer. greeting from México tnx
No silicone was used. Just a good felpro gasket.
Sad to say but this van is just about worn out at 263k.
Sorry to hear that my blazer is 130k. Tnx sr. I have 2 baby boys need a hoby to spend time with them tnx again.
@DawgcityClev
If nothing is seized up, I would say one to two hours.
Watch the front center upper intake bolt that's right behind the idle speed controller. It may have a lot of carbon build-up on it from the EGR system, and could strip or snap. Take your time. (Mine seized at the halfway point)
So my 1999 astro van is leaking oil in a monumental way. Basically pouring out when the engine is running. I think it's probably a valve cover gasket, but I've never gotten into the engine. Is this going to be doable by a guy with basic "replace the parts" ability or should I pop for the repair shop to tackle it?
Thanks for any advice.
what year is this astro mines a 92 and its always in the shop with fuel issues 2 fuel pumps now working on 3rd one being installed in 14 months
How long did this take aside from filming? Have to do this exact same thing to my 95 Astro.
hey where did u get your new gasket that goes around the manifold?
How did you know the spider was bad?
What model is your car?
Where I can find the " spider injector"?
How much the " spider injector"?
I Want to order Spider injector Can you recommend the shop
Wow these parts are becoming hard to find. Found a injector for $350.00. I put the link in the description. Good luck
Thank you very much
Hi there, Did you put silicon before to set the gasket?
Not at all.
The Felpro gasket was good enough to probably be used again.
Disculpe ne sesito regulador y inyetor
thanks for this useful info. i love it!
I have a question that maybe somebody out there can answer I have a 1995 Chevy Astro van and I just had a new cat converter put on it yesterday and over the past three months I have replaced everything that's replaceable on that motor from the EGR valve to a brand new cap and rotor plug wires and plugs I put a brand new fuel pump in it I change the O2 sensor and I change the fuel filter. Now here's what my problem is when I push the gas pedal down to accelerate it acts like it's not getting the proper fuel to give me the proper horsepower so what could the problem be
I had this problem. Mine only had the problem when the fuel tank was 3/4 full or less. If the fuel level went to 1/4 tank the van wouldn't even start.
Turns out the cheap plastic fuel pump to sending unit rubber hose clamps (which came with the new pump)were not up to the job and were leaking off fuel pressure. I replaced the plastic hose clamps with the traditional metal worm type and it solved the problem.
I did a fuel pressure check to find the problem.
local701
Well it's just driving me crazy trying to figure out what's wrong with my van without putting it in the shop. If I can't find the problem by searching it on UA-cam then I don't know what to do and I definitely do not want to drop my fuel tank again just to replace some clamps. But thank you for your information in regards to why my van might not be running right. Hopefully I will figure out this problem so I can make it to St Augustine Beach Florida
Chinny Chinles pull back the carpet and cut a hole, it's not as bad as it sounds.
How come there's no oral instruction
Tengo una astro van 95 ya le canvie bomba y todo lo electrónico y no prende
SO glad they moved past that design..
how long did it take?
About an hour and a half.
@ben2317f
rockauto.
Everything came from rock.
broken record, but still, much better to upgrade to MPFI.