My uncontrollable bedtime thought today led me to think of hieratic, I turned up my ipad, youtube, just to look it up with little expectation. Thank you for having covered this up man, a girl can sleep today thanks to you. Great quality video btw.
At 0:32 Translation: Some people like the dancing dude, and are clapping for him, but one is unsure. Perhaps he should go to Thunder Dome where the sitting lady who is judging and her bodyguard with a "thumpin'" club await the performance of a lifetime. Egyptian is easy!
Haha! Pure gold! Reminds me the Teddy in Night At the Museum 2 reading hieroglyphic tablet: A man with spear, puts a bird and a sideways fish into a vase....and there's also a beetle.
Your writing is just beautiful. I've been trying to learn to read hieratic on my own and to say it's a challenge is an understatement, but I just wanted to let you know that I laughed out loud when I read your hieratic rendition of "dummies" on the book cover. That was great. You are my kind of person! Loving this video and have subscribed to make sure I don't miss anything you put out there : )
Oh dear! I hope your wrist is alright now. We all pay a price for learning a writing system. For me is the neck. For a couple of weeks I cannot nod and my arms feel numbs. Wait, you need to drill your mind in Latin too? So what do students repeat in their learning? verb forms?
Thanks Peter! I can see you are very enthusiastic about Egyptian writing, as you commented many similar video! It is great to know that you like my work!
Hi! Thanks for watching and great to see you are interested in it. I am not professional in terms of hieratic (I am more "archaeological" than "Egyptological" in my research life). So I am also a beginner in this matter. You can start with Poe's book featured in this video. You can download it for free from sonoma-dspace.calstate.edu/handle/10211.3/144864
wait, but if you spell fish in egypt you spell it litterly like F I S H but in hieratic, but what is the egyptian word for it if you would translate it into english? I mean like, if you had an hieratic text and you translate it with the english letters you will get something weird not an english word right? how do we translate that because thats another translation you need to do?
I think you mean transliterate. Hieratic is a logographic script that only uses consonants. This is similar to Arabic and Hebrew, which are sometimes written without some of their vowel characters at all (the dots and dashes you see around larger characters). However those both have a sign related to a phenome- hieratic has a sigh related to a phenome or to multiple phenomes, as well as a few signs that represent entire words or concepts. So when transliterating hieratic in English script you get a bunch of consonants and maybe a word, and the vowels that create a whole picture of the word are kind of informed guess work- though Coptic can give us some more idea of vowels because Coptic transitioned from the old, logographic and often not including vowels scripts, to one derived from the Greek and Demotic scripts that has a letter linked to a single phenome and has vowels as major characters.
Hi! I am not an expert in hieratic as you can see I am still learning it by myself. But I am happy to have a look of the "hieratic abnormal" text (by abnormal are you referring to abnormal hieratic which was replaced by demotic later?) you mentioned. Would you like to send it to me?
Could you please help me? I have been trying for months to discover how the names of goddesses Hathor, Naunet, Sekhmet and Apophis would be written in hieratic writing; to tattoo them. I would be infinitely grateful if you could tell me and help me.
Hi! Thanks for the comment. The pen I use for this video is a kind of Lamy fountain pen, call JOY. But any calligraphy fountain pen will do. Also, the best way to write is not with fountain pen, as the similar reed pen was not known to Egyptian until very late. So, if you are looking for a more authentic way to write hieratic, try small brushes.
This is such a good question, which has also pestered me for a long while. Honestly, after consulting references I have in hand, I failed to find anyone offering even the slightest clue for a credible answer. It is not surprising though. We probably get to know the Egyptian terms mDe nTr (aka. Hieroglyph) and sx.n.Sa.t (aka. Demotic) because the Rosetta stone mentioned these two terms in the very last line of it when mentioning the stele (the "Stone" itself, a kind of reference if you may). And unfortunately, it seems that no hieratic documents have graced us with such a fortunate self-reference.
Oh, this is wonderful. I am trying to create a character who is an expert in hieratic (which I definitely am not). You make it look so beautiful! Can you advise me? If she got her Ph.D. in the US, where would she have studied? And would she be an Egyptologist or an archeologist? I need her to be working in Egypt, but not on the dig, when a new cache is discovered. Can this work? Thank you so much for this incredible video!
Thanks and wow, what an amazing character you are shaping! However, I finished my PhD of Egyptian archaeology in England and have very limited knowledge of US unis. Well, university of Pennsylvania, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Brown and Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago are all possible schools for her. But personally I prefer Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago because as you mentioned, she needs to work in Egypt, but not a dig, so I suppose, she could be an Egyptologist who can read both hieroglyph and hieratic, and now participating the epigraphic expedition of the Oriental Institute which started from 1924. If you imagined her as an Egyptian archaeologist, she can also works on some site survey, which requires no dig, but need to check the ground.
Just get picture of the heiroglyphic and hieratic alphabets and write them out... then follow this exercise? Even course use this exercise to learn hieratic so that's what I'm gonna do 🤷♂️
I’ve been trying to figure out how to get my mothers birthday written in Hieratic, it’s been pretty confusing on what right and what’s wrong. Is there a way you could help me?
Happy to help, even though I am not an expert on hieratic at all. What do you want to write for your mother's birthday? Have you written something already? What are the confusions?
My uncontrollable bedtime thought today led me to think of hieratic, I turned up my ipad, youtube, just to look it up with little expectation. Thank you for having covered this up man, a girl can sleep today thanks to you. Great quality video btw.
+1
At 0:32
Translation:
Some people like the dancing dude, and are clapping for him, but one is unsure. Perhaps he should go to Thunder Dome where the sitting lady who is judging and her bodyguard with a "thumpin'" club await the performance of a lifetime.
Egyptian is easy!
Haha! Pure gold! Reminds me the Teddy in Night At the Museum 2 reading hieroglyphic tablet: A man with spear, puts a bird and a sideways fish into a vase....and there's also a beetle.
😄
Thanks, I've searched so long for something informative about Hieratic, and now I've found this PDF.
FINALLY
Which pdf
Your writing is just beautiful. I've been trying to learn to read hieratic on my own and to say it's a challenge is an understatement, but I just wanted to let you know that I laughed out loud when I read your hieratic rendition of "dummies" on the book cover. That was great. You are my kind of person! Loving this video and have subscribed to make sure I don't miss anything you put out there : )
Awww Glad you like it, especially the dummy part--it took me 20 minutes to paste the hieratic onto the cover!
Awesome! it looks pretty. The drills remind me of how I was taught latin scripts. I got carpel tunnel!
Oh dear! I hope your wrist is alright now. We all pay a price for learning a writing system. For me is the neck. For a couple of weeks I cannot nod and my arms feel numbs. Wait, you need to drill your mind in Latin too? So what do students repeat in their learning? verb forms?
@@hoisinpoison4126verbs. Verbs. Verbs. Nouns. Nouns. Nouns.
It’s not as atrocious as Classical Greek, though 😱
This may be crazy, but I'd like to learn this for miniature painting; especially for thousand sons or any Egyptian themed models!
> Thousand Sons
Incredibly based.
Wonderful!! Well done! I copied Poe’s amazing publication on a 6.5 meter Papyrus. Thanks for your video.
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Nice work!
Thanks Peter! I can see you are very enthusiastic about Egyptian writing, as you commented many similar video! It is great to know that you like my work!
Can you give resources to study if possible. I do enjoy the topic and hope you will make more.
Hi! Thanks for watching and great to see you are interested in it. I am not professional in terms of hieratic (I am more "archaeological" than "Egyptological" in my research life). So I am also a beginner in this matter. You can start with Poe's book featured in this video. You can download it for free from sonoma-dspace.calstate.edu/handle/10211.3/144864
@Hoisin Poison and to anyone else, Could somebody recommend a complete (meaning every hieroglyph rendered into) hieratic dictionary?
i wonder if arabic and greek never took over egyptian would evolve something similar to japanese
I need a hieratic for dummies... or the writing equivalent of duolingo xD
wait, but if you spell fish in egypt you spell it litterly like F I S H but in hieratic, but what is the egyptian word for it if you would translate it into english? I mean like, if you had an hieratic
text and you translate it with the english letters you will get something weird not an english word right? how do we translate that because thats another translation you need to do?
I think you mean transliterate. Hieratic is a logographic script that only uses consonants. This is similar to Arabic and Hebrew, which are sometimes written without some of their vowel characters at all (the dots and dashes you see around larger characters). However those both have a sign related to a phenome- hieratic has a sigh related to a phenome or to multiple phenomes, as well as a few signs that represent entire words or concepts.
So when transliterating hieratic in English script you get a bunch of consonants and maybe a word, and the vowels that create a whole picture of the word are kind of informed guess work- though Coptic can give us some more idea of vowels because Coptic transitioned from the old, logographic and often not including vowels scripts, to one derived from the Greek and Demotic scripts that has a letter linked to a single phenome and has vowels as major characters.
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Greetings from China. I have an image that I thought it could be hieratic abnormal, but I can't know all of them. Could you please help me reading it?
Hi! I am not an expert in hieratic as you can see I am still learning it by myself. But I am happy to have a look of the "hieratic abnormal" text (by abnormal are you referring to abnormal hieratic which was replaced by demotic later?) you mentioned. Would you like to send it to me?
@@hoisinpoison4126 Yes. My twitter is @zact554 I will DM to you.
@@yaotalks1150 OK, I have just followed you. Haven't tried DM on twitter before.
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Could you please help me? I have been trying for months to discover how the names of goddesses Hathor, Naunet, Sekhmet and Apophis would be written in hieratic writing; to tattoo them. I would be infinitely grateful if you could tell me and help me.
Hieratic looks so familiar
False déjà vu
So Bizarre
Can you please tell me what my name would be in Hieratic?! And the pronunciation? My names Jason.
Thank you if you can!
Hello, I am very impressed by your work, it looks pretty amazing! I may come up late, but do you have a reference for the pen you use in the video ?
Hi! Thanks for the comment. The pen I use for this video is a kind of Lamy fountain pen, call JOY. But any calligraphy fountain pen will do. Also, the best way to write is not with fountain pen, as the similar reed pen was not known to Egyptian until very late. So, if you are looking for a more authentic way to write hieratic, try small brushes.
"Hieratic" is a Greek term, right? What is the actual name that the Egyptians called it? Thank you!
This is such a good question, which has also pestered me for a long while. Honestly, after consulting references I have in hand, I failed to find anyone offering even the slightest clue for a credible answer. It is not surprising though. We probably get to know the Egyptian terms mDe nTr (aka. Hieroglyph) and sx.n.Sa.t (aka. Demotic) because the Rosetta stone mentioned these two terms in the very last line of it when mentioning the stele (the "Stone" itself, a kind of reference if you may). And unfortunately, it seems that no hieratic documents have graced us with such a fortunate self-reference.
2:48 😃 We need it.
Oh, this is wonderful. I am trying to create a character who is an expert in hieratic (which I definitely am not). You make it look so beautiful!
Can you advise me? If she got her Ph.D. in the US, where would she have studied? And would she be an Egyptologist or an archeologist? I need her to be working in Egypt, but not on the dig, when a new cache is discovered. Can this work?
Thank you so much for this incredible video!
Thanks and wow, what an amazing character you are shaping! However, I finished my PhD of Egyptian archaeology in England and have very limited knowledge of US unis. Well, university of Pennsylvania, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Brown and Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago are all possible schools for her. But personally I prefer Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago because as you mentioned, she needs to work in Egypt, but not a dig, so I suppose, she could be an Egyptologist who can read both hieroglyph and hieratic, and now participating the epigraphic expedition of the Oriental Institute which started from 1924. If you imagined her as an Egyptian archaeologist, she can also works on some site survey, which requires no dig, but need to check the ground.
And if you want have a talk, I am always glad to have a brief discussion with you. My email is tian.tian.14@ucl.ac.uk
Very interested in learning Egyptian hieratics! Are there any online courses or videos which I can start learning?
If you got inform me
Just get picture of the heiroglyphic and hieratic alphabets and write them out... then follow this exercise? Even course use this exercise to learn hieratic so that's what I'm gonna do 🤷♂️
I’ve been trying to figure out how to get my mothers birthday written in Hieratic, it’s been pretty confusing on what right and what’s wrong. Is there a way you could help me?
Happy to help, even though I am not an expert on hieratic at all. What do you want to write for your mother's birthday? Have you written something already? What are the confusions?
Nice video Hoisin, did you study Egyptology?
Thanks a lot for subscription! Yes I used to focus on Egyptology but later shifted to Egyptian archaeology.
🙏🌍
How on earth do you have less subscribers than me.
Honestly, I can't see where the mistake is. Aren't they exactly the same?
The "throwing stick" sign (that looks like a reversed "7") 8:20 is missing. And for 8:47, those texts in black are missing.
Egypt
Starts at 04:45
Thanks for marking this out. For advanced viewers who want to see some real actions, it would be better if they start watching from this point.
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They are really easy to draw if you know kung fu. Oh, sorry. That's a secret