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  • @officialbackintheday
    @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому +23

    Hope you enjoy everyone! I had a bit of a nightmare finishing this one when I accidentally deleted the file of my voice recording for this script! Somehow managed to save it though! It would mean the world if you could subscribe to the channel and please share this with anyone you think might be interested. Work starts on the next video tomorrow. Thanks everyone!

  • @Coin945
    @Coin945 15 днів тому +3

    As the guy that dug into the archives and wrote the comprehensive Wikipedia article on the Cluedo Australian TV series, it’s really heart-warming to know that you used it as the basis for this video. (If you want to use the British-related sections to buff out the UK article and feel free)!

  • @chonkycheeze
    @chonkycheeze 2 місяці тому +17

    I discovered this channel last year when I stumbled upon one of your videos on The Crystal Maze. I realized almost immediately that it wasn’t about the show I’d *actually* been searching for (a long-forgotten American game show called Masters of the Maze), but I’ve never been so happy to be disappointed. Your videos were (and are) so good that I’m always absolutely thrilled to see a notification pop up and say to myself, “An hour-long video about a British game show I’ve never heard of? Can’t wait to check it out!”
    Thank you so much for making such consistently wonderful work!

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому +3

      @@chonkycheeze Thanks so much for the lovely comment! Glad to have you on board and hope you enjoy the video. I'll definitely need to check out Masters of the Maze!

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому

      @@totallybored5526 Check out my video on Knightmare :)

  • @nickcopland5186
    @nickcopland5186 2 місяці тому +11

    It's mad to think how this one show had Multiverse Crossovers of great actors from classic films and TV shows to TV presenters from a variety of different programmes

    • @eastmeetswestpresents6923
      @eastmeetswestpresents6923 4 дні тому

      And if you think about it, in every series, at least one actor in the main cast of suspects played a character in Doctor Who

  • @dellzincht
    @dellzincht 2 місяці тому +6

    Loved watching this as a kid, but strangely the thing I remember the most about it as an adult is the theme tune and voiceover introducing viewers to the cast of the show, it all felt pretty sinister and set the tone of the show perfectly!

  • @GregOrCreg
    @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for this video. This was honestly one of my favourite shows back in the day. I love the combination of campy drama and whodunnit quiz show (although I'd have happily have taken a non-quiz show simply featuring the drama part of the show).

  • @colemanfrancis
    @colemanfrancis 2 місяці тому +7

    It was Leslie Grantham in the back of the taxi with the gun.

  • @robertqld
    @robertqld 2 місяці тому +2

    I remember the Australian one as a kid and I felt so so smart figuring out the person/weapon/room early on in the episode!
    Probably only happened once and I just got lucky, but dang I thought I should go into the audience and play after that (even though I was like 12!) Lol

  • @lomion79
    @lomion79 2 місяці тому +6

    Enjoyed watching "Cluedo?' back in the day. Great theme tune and some terrific performances from the casts.
    I may be wrong, but I have a memory of June Whitfield's Mrs White often taking a drink when facing an accusation.

    • @nWg2000
      @nWg2000 2 місяці тому

      She did and was the best Mrs White as well. The theme tune is also epic!

  • @brayster1979
    @brayster1979 2 місяці тому +2

    This is epic content

    • @brayster1979
      @brayster1979 2 місяці тому

      Please do similar for Interceptor

  • @tonystrainsofrugby
    @tonystrainsofrugby 2 місяці тому +2

    Just finished the first two series and the Xmas special :) Standout performers for me were Series One Professor Plum (I love how OTT he is in the studio!) and Richard Wilson as Reverend Green in Series Two. Enjoyed Nick Berry's cameo too. Only let down actor wise for me was Ian Lavender as Plum... looking forward to series three! Also Mr White should definitely had been a suspect the number of times he "finds" the body in series one lol

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому +2

      Glad you're enjoying the show! Definitely loved Richard Wilson as Rev. Green!

  • @emmajk7433
    @emmajk7433 2 місяці тому +5

    I used to enjoy watching this when I was young with my parents ... you did an amazing job

  • @marquonuk
    @marquonuk 2 місяці тому +4

    Good video. Nice format, and very comprehensive. Enjoyed it. :-)

  • @Whoopij1
    @Whoopij1 2 місяці тому +6

    Loved watching cluedo as a kid. Made me seek out whodunnit from before I was born to watch and also the murder game with it's extras via the red button. All classics

  • @TonySpike
    @TonySpike 2 місяці тому +2

    Despite watching this pretty regularly this one slipped my mind
    I mean their has always been a tiny part of the back of my mind that remembers this one (witch is wierd because i was 6 when this came out and i remember crystal maze and krypton factor pretty well)
    But its so small i thought it to be a dream, so watching this has been a bit of a nostalgia trip

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching - glad to have taken you on a nice little nostalgia trip!

  • @jedthementalist5112
    @jedthementalist5112 2 місяці тому +5

    16:33 Smug, arrogant...... count!? I misheard that, had to replay it. Great show from my childhood. Thanks for the retrospective.

  • @KujiRaWWR
    @KujiRaWWR 2 місяці тому +7

    plz plz plz do an episode on the murder game , i remember watching it and being absolutely terrified and enthralled by it as a kid

    • @adammcardle
      @adammcardle 2 місяці тому +1

      I was about to ask for the same. Please do it!

    • @andrewmartin6410
      @andrewmartin6410 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes yes yes. Andrew's luck was so funny to watch.

    • @erikdraven1731
      @erikdraven1731 2 місяці тому

      I watched the US version (Murder in Small Town X) First, but I can admit that the individual investigations terrified me a lot more in the Murder Game.

    • @KujiRaWWR
      @KujiRaWWR 2 місяці тому

      @@erikdraven1731 i didsnt even know there was one ill have to check it out , thanks for telling me !!!

  • @AndrewMartinIsHere
    @AndrewMartinIsHere 2 місяці тому +3

    I adored this programme when it was going out, but my parents hated it, so didn't get to see many episodes. Wish it could come back in a similar format.

  • @tonystrainsofrugby
    @tonystrainsofrugby 2 місяці тому +2

    Good video, would suggest you look up the 1970s quiz show "Whodunnit" though hosted by Edward Woodward and later Jon Pertwee where a series of actors act out a whodunnit style murder and a celebrity panel has to deduct the murderer. Although the characters and scenarios change every episode there you can clearly see that the premise of the Cluedo gameshow takes more influence from that than it does from the board game and my assumption would be the board game has potential been tied in as an attempt to increase viewership due to a recognisable part of life, most people having played Cluedo at some point :)

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 2 місяці тому +3

    13:06 Top of that magazine says it's from August 1990. I wasn't born until December 1991 so this was before my time but i think i'd have enjoyed it.

  • @Matthew6248
    @Matthew6248 2 місяці тому +8

    Suhgestions for future episodes: Finders Keepers (Debuted in America only to be a bigger hit in UK), Fun House (same story as finders keepers), Lingo (Pre G.S.N meaning the 1987 North American Version and the UK one) and Wipeout (1988 version) (another US game show that spawned a UK version)

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому

      @@Matthew6248 Thanks for the great suggestions, will add them to my list!

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o 2 місяці тому

      Ah Funhouse you KNEW the weekend started when this show was shown.

    • @CaledoniaStorm
      @CaledoniaStorm 2 місяці тому

      I'd quite like to see a retrospective of Richard Stilgoe's Finders Keepers from the early-mid '80s. It was basically a computerised version of Battleship. I remember loving it in the day, though it seems to be nearly forgotten about now. If anyone remembers the name at all now, they go to the Neil Buchanan series, which was a completely different game.

  • @pipoo1
    @pipoo1 2 місяці тому +3

    If you get round to Fun House and Finders Keepers, TVS who made the UK version of Finders Keepers also did a game show version of Mouse Trap which was an integral part of their Saturday morning show Motormouth during its third and fourth seasons, the level of detail the TVS team went into to recreate the Mousetrap board was amazing.

  • @ModelsExInferis
    @ModelsExInferis 2 місяці тому +5

    How the heck have I never seen this?! Usually if I've not seen something it's because it's coincided with Emmerdale or Corrie as those are my Mum's soaps, but if this was on ITV then that can't be the case. And as a lover of both the boardgame and the Tim Curry film I would absolutely have wanted to watch this! Weird. Oh well, I'll just have to watch it now!
    Lots of Doctor Who interest here too. Other than the glaringly obvious Tom Baker, there's Kate O'Mara (who played the amazing evil genius chemist Time Lord the Rani in Colin Baker's "The Mark of the Rani", and later in Sylvester McCoy's first outing as the Doctor "Time and the Rani"), Michael Jayston (the Valeyard from Colin Baker's serial "Trial of a Timelord"), Nicholas Parsons (who oddly played another vicar in Sylvester McCoy's final series story "The Curse of Fenric") and Joanna Lumley (who is the first female Doctor and I will die on that hill in the Comic Relief skit "The Curse of the Fatal Death"). Also, a very young Sean Pertwee and if I need to explain that one his dad was shown in the first part of this video!

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому

      Apparently, Tracy-Louise Ward (Miss Scarlett in the first series of Cluedo) also appeared in 2 1985 episodes of Doctor Who as a character called 'Katz'.

  • @andrewh5568
    @andrewh5568 2 місяці тому +2

    The Australian version was great, the audience also got to guess the clues on some computer and change it at any time during the recording, their data was given the the contestants AND if you guessed right AND didn't change it before the final reveal you'd get a prize as an audience member.
    Then, as a secondary prize for home viewers, if you guessed when the audience member made their guess(between 730pm and 8pm when it aired) by phoning into a pay telephone number then you'd also win a prize.
    Also they had seven characters, the six murder suspects AND a detective who showed up and investigated the case. Which was pretty fun.

  • @That_Ifrit_Guy
    @That_Ifrit_Guy 2 місяці тому +3

    Oh this looks like a fun watch
    Thanks for introducing to me :D

  • @MikeLarky83
    @MikeLarky83 2 місяці тому +3

    Another brilliant video! I loved this show growing up and recently watched them on UA-cam. Along with Knightmare, Crystal Maze and gladiators you are covering all my favourites! Krypton Factor next? Please :)

  • @williamcrowe2576
    @williamcrowe2576 2 місяці тому +2

    Sure wish there was an official DVD/BluRay release with cooperation from Hasbro, or at least a stream of it on Tubi.

  • @nWg2000
    @nWg2000 2 місяці тому +1

    As a big Cluedo fan I loved this show but even as a child I worked out the formulaic approach to the murderer's identity straight away!
    Having rewatched them now as an adult I think the zenith was season 3. The fourth season was a complete trainwreck in my opinion so not surprised it was cancelled. Despite struggling initially with the personas and comical murder motives in season 1 (to be expected), you're right that it eventually turned into a great TV adaptation of the classic game.
    Not sure about that Christmas special though, which seemed to be a nod to the film with all suspects receiving the weapons as gifts, just with really poor backstories - the movie did it much better!

  • @brianfinlay756
    @brianfinlay756 2 місяці тому +2

    Give us a Clue would be good one to cover.

  • @TheHopperUK
    @TheHopperUK 2 місяці тому +2

    I loved this show when I was a kid! Had a large crush on one of the Professors Plum for some reason.

  • @kate_cooper
    @kate_cooper 2 місяці тому +2

    What I like about this show is how they switched it up every season, as well as changing the actors and the set, they changed the whole tone.
    The first one was very hammy and over the top; the second and third played it a bit more straight, and the third also made Mrs Peacock a good stepmother to Miss Scarlett and all three female characters into much nicer people; and the fourth was best described as glorious, gothic cartoonishness with every character having only one outfit each (possibly because most of the budget went on the new set) and a military drumbeat playing whenever Colonel Mustard entered or exited a room.
    I got to stream the whole series a few years back and it's fascinating to track the changes. Don't know if it's still up.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому +1

      It's fun to compare the various interpretations of the same characters over the 4 seasons (plus Christmas special, which I must say, in terms of writing, was probably the best episode in the entire show's run). My GOAT cast for the show would likely take actors from across the various seasons.

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GregOrCreg The Christmas Special was excellent. I love the clever way they incorporated the weapons from the board game.

  • @cartoonhead9222
    @cartoonhead9222 2 місяці тому +1

    Never heard of this at all! It's absolutely full of stars too. Madeley looking exceedingly dapper here.

  • @marquonuk
    @marquonuk 2 місяці тому +2

    This was a fair attempt to introduce a new variation on the milestone ITV series "Whodunnit?" of about 20 years earlier, hosted (mainly) by Jon Pertwee. The main difference was that instead of a rotating cast of suspects, scenarios and locations, it followed the Cluedo game format with the same game characters and location each week. They weren't really adapting the board game of the same name, more using the familiar name to attract viewers. Tom Baker was one of the regular murder suspects, and I think David McCallum (if I remember rightly, both played Professor Plum in different series?). Like Whodunnit, the fun of the show was really seeing how well the cast could improvise their answers to any random question asked by the detectives. I think it was said that only the murderer could lie, so that was really how contestants could carefully work out that week's murderer. It was OK, but not as good as "Whodunnit?" That said, I would happily buy a DVD box set of the 4 series to sit alongside my Whodunnit set. :-)

  • @PlatinumRoseLady
    @PlatinumRoseLady 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember playing Risk with some friends, and one of them put so many armies on Australia you couldn't see the country anymore!

  • @SUK2293
    @SUK2293 2 місяці тому +1

    An obvious inspiration for Knives Out...

  • @upkaarbharadia
    @upkaarbharadia 2 місяці тому +1

    So glad you recovered your voice recording file! Congrats on another banger 👏🏽I was obsessed with this show as a child and even did a rewatch five years ago, so it's still fairly fresh in my mind. Such a shame that its innovative format wasn't rewarded with more universal acclaim. Loved the shoutouts for Clue, The Murder Game and The Mole too. IMO Clue is one of the greatest films ever made and, for want of a better word, it's criminal that The Murder Game only lasted one series. Whilst I do like The Traitors, for me it's just an inferior version of The Mole, that lacks a suspenseful mystery element because you already know who the traitors are. I think it's a real shame that it gets almost universal adulation, whilst the UK version of The Mole was hidden away on Channel 5 and then abruptly cancelled because executives believed it was too hard to follow. And at a time before social media existed, which may have given the show a stay of execution.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much for watching the video! I actually didn't recover the original voice recording file - I had to rerecord it haha! I tried everything to recover it but to no avail, however I think the video turned out okay!

  • @RachelMay1989
    @RachelMay1989 2 місяці тому +1

    I've never heard of this, but it sounds GLORIOUS! I'm a massive fan of Armchair Detectives which was on the BBC a few years ago and this obviously influenced that show. I'm going to hunt it out for a watch 🙂

  • @sarat6488
    @sarat6488 2 місяці тому +1

    what a charming show!

  • @reoreborn1209
    @reoreborn1209 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for this! I used to watch and love this as a kid.
    As a kid I always wondered if the contestants were scripted. For eg what would happen if somebody guessed correctly on the first turn?

  • @retrogiftsuk4812
    @retrogiftsuk4812 2 місяці тому +1

    Surprised you mentioned Mousetrap as a game from your childhood, without mentioning the TV series with the giant working version of the contraption...
    Great video BTW. I must search out and rewatch the Cluedo TV show as I loved it back in the 90s.
    You're right that they'd never make anything like it now. Far too expensive. Modern gameshows are churned out, filming many episodes every day (often with no audience)

  • @nhailstone
    @nhailstone 2 місяці тому +2

    Loved this show as a kid, wish it lasted a bit longer. Though liz smith killing someone by hitting them with a decanter stopper was pretty silly to me even back then! Watching it back, the final series is a lot more cartoony than the others, much more over the top acting.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому +1

      The final season definitely leaned further into the camp. Just look at Mrs Peacock/Joanne Lumley's wig.

  • @tammyblack2747
    @tammyblack2747 2 місяці тому

    I recognize Tony Slattery. He was on “Whose Line is It Anyway?” with Clive Anderson.

  • @jamesporter2542
    @jamesporter2542 2 місяці тому +3

    One mistake I noticed was you kept saying Miss Scarlet was Mrs. Peacock's daughter. This was true in the 2003 versions of the board game, but in the game show, they were Step-Mother and Step Daughter. I love this game show but having watched a few episodes of the Australian version, they did the show a lot better. Having the audience solve the murder, the suspects always wearing their namesake colour, the show having it's own police officer solve the murder, the same cast throughout the whole series (+ guest victims) and a prize for the winner.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому +3

      Thanks for the clarification. I suppose I was just saying daughter to keep things simple but you're right!

    • @jamesporter2542
      @jamesporter2542 2 місяці тому +2

      @@officialbackintheday I've also heard rumours that Tarrant wasn't the only one who hated being on Cluedo. Lewis Collins wasn't a fan of being on the show either, despite being awesome as Mustard. Not sure the reason why but someone whose famous for his action roles, I kind of get it

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому

      @@jamesporter2542 Funny since Collins had appeared in Season 2 as a one-off character. Presumably he enjoyed that experience enough to come back as Colonel Mustard.

  • @mb2000
    @mb2000 2 місяці тому +3

    30:24 “I don’t believe it!”

  • @remconet
    @remconet 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video. I was a little disappointed though, that we didn't get any information on how this show was made. Like how was the improvistion done. Did the actors have extensive background scripts; were they given the questions in advance; could they make up their own answers? Also you tell us to "check out" other versions of the show, but don't tell us how to do that.

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  2 місяці тому

      Good questions! Information is relatively limited on some of those behind the scenes aspects of the show. It is over 30 years old I guess! For the other versions of the show from other countries, just google 'Cluedo [Country Name]' and you'll find them ;)

    • @Coin945
      @Coin945 15 днів тому

      Check out the Wikipedia article Cluedo (Australian TV series).
      I wrote it and it’s super comprehensive.

  • @Michael-v7g6f
    @Michael-v7g6f 2 місяці тому +2

    A bit surprised you didn't mention the debt owed by the ITV series to the vastly superior interactive disc game Cluedo starring Joan Sims and John Standing among others. Superbly written and acted, the melodrama seeped off the screen, with different clues and solution by difficulty level. The ITV version is by no means a bad copy, other attempts don't bother with the plot or clues at all, or are incredibly trite. The Australian TV version felt unwatchable to me.

  • @fishpop
    @fishpop 2 місяці тому +1

    So what were the murder motive in the episodes you covered?

  • @TheSandwichAftermath
    @TheSandwichAftermath Місяць тому +1

    Would you happen to know of a place where I could watch the episodes?

  • @rickmcwhirter4990
    @rickmcwhirter4990 Місяць тому +1

    Was one of my favourite shows growing up. Series 2 & 3 by far the best. Series 4, with some episodes written by Russell T. Davies, were a bit far-fetched for me. As a kid, I would wonder whether steps were taken to throw the contestants off so that they wouldn't guess correctly on their first go thus spoiling the rest of show. What do you think?

    • @officialbackintheday
      @officialbackintheday  Місяць тому +1

      I have a feeling that there were multiple different routes each episode could go so that if one of the contestants guessed one of these correct solutions, the show could quickly pivot to something else being the solution, that way prolonging the interrogating and ensuring there is enough content for a full episode. Just a hunch on that though!

  • @andrewbevan4662
    @andrewbevan4662 2 місяці тому +2

    A bit dark to include an actual murderer in the cast...

  • @twright1983
    @twright1983 2 місяці тому +2

    Really enjoyed this show but the decision in series 4 to announce the murderer to the audience early was bizarre as well as annoying

    • @evonne_o
      @evonne_o 2 місяці тому +1

      It made the 4th series the worse one.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому

      It had the same annoying effect as the pre-Match of the Day football results on the news: "If you don't want to know the scores, look away now." The annoying this is, you don't know how long you need to put the sound on mute and close your eyes for, and it's not like today when if you miss something you can just do a live rewind.

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 2 місяці тому +1

    Never saw this as a kid. But I did watch lots of Poirot with my mum so maybe that counts? 🤷‍♂️

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 2 місяці тому +1

    Also Their was no conservatory in the show

  • @nicolamarchbank1846
    @nicolamarchbank1846 2 місяці тому

    The acting cast were well slumming it.

    • @GregOrCreg
      @GregOrCreg 2 місяці тому

      Biggins was 'slumming it'? LOL!

  • @David-dy7xc
    @David-dy7xc 2 місяці тому +2

    season 4 is considered the worst of them all

    • @robertmorrison9702
      @robertmorrison9702 2 місяці тому

      For good reason. I don't know whose decision it was to make every single character into a psychopath. But, it hurt the quality of the show with them not having down to Earth, flawed characters. Not... mustache twirling villains.

  • @RunOfTheHind
    @RunOfTheHind 2 місяці тому

    'Sorry, it's difficult to understand you when you say "splidding" because I know in real life you say "splitting". Interesting the way you substitute a 'd' for a 't' when you're broadcasting. If you ask me, it's the behaviour of a dosser'.

  • @ebow7964
    @ebow7964 2 місяці тому

    I don't have a clue what your talking about 😂