I don’t know if Donovan will watch but his momma sure is!❤ I’ll be happy to leave it on. We all need peace, tranquility and pups these days. God bless. ❤❤❤
Perfection personified, a truly magical way to put joy and happiness into our lives, nothing quite like it. Thanks a million Sam, simply made my day. Love and hugs to you all. Hxx❤️❤️❤️🌟🌟👋👋🙋
This is perfect Sam. 12 hours of Cutie Pie, Tilly, Joey and Bandit?! Beyond happy! No doubt it takes a lot of work to put these together on top of everything else. Thank you!!!
#DogsAreBest... hahaha yes, I know! So are cats, dingos, horses, goats lambies, ok - - ok!! all the animals are bestest. ❤❤❤ We are so blessed to have them in our lives!❤🎉🎉🎉
Sam this channel is a wonderful idea as I always put dog tv on for my dogs when I have to go out and now I'll be using your channel instead and be ablevto support my lovely farm family, 2 and 4 legged 💜🕯🙏
and I find myself sitting here calling out their names and chuckling. There are so many ♥moments I remember and it def helps me to relax. After following The Farm for close to 4 years now, there are so many dogs I grown to love that I can not name them all (here).
This music is very zen and calming (which I'm guessing is your goal for long videos), but you guys literally have your own theme songs for your life at The Farm and it's those songs on your playlist video (the ones you usually use). Every time I hear any of those songs anywhere else, I instantly think of the Evans family and The Farm. They personify you guys and bring us all home to The Farm. I always want to hear them when I get to watch our Pack family. ❤ 🎶 🐾
In our pet household, we have been playing Farm Fun with all of your crew since this morning and almost at the 12 hr mark. I'm a YT Premium subscriber so catch the goings-on as I do what I need to and still see all the fun at the Farm. What a great group of dogs, cats and the humans who love/care for and do such a phenomenal job of training them. Praying Sam for your healing and recovery. Praying, too, for Luke, your beautiful children and all the animals! I have come to believe Cutie has an identity issue! There's a metaphor "If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better stay on the porch"! It relates to getting ahead in the business world but every time I see Cutie running with all the big dogs, swimming in the pool and wrestling with the other dogs, I think of that saying. She doesn't know she's a small dog and a pug at that!
So much fun remembering all the names. Ariel and the Dachshunds were outstanding chasing Luke on the bike and Donald dressed for Halloween. Ps: Jealous Pablo trying to drown Zara. He wanted Uncle Luke all to himself.
Just beautiful! Share, subscribe, like and watch! Leave on for your fur babies to enjoy!❤🐾 you will also be helping this wonderful family to continue their amazing rescue and rehabilitation of animals who have been failed by others.
It calms me just watching and great memories of The Farm with Doggie Daycare. I still love watching The Farm and all the Evans' family does for the rescue family. God bless you guys!
My dog Ruby loves watching your videos on The Farm channel with me. Thank you for these much longer videos that I can play on our TV for her while she's home alone.
Miss the DDFT days so much. All those wonderful dogs going nuts all day and having the best time. It's so lovely there are lots of videos we can watch them whenever we want to and The Farm now is more precious as a haven for needy dogs that likely wouldn't be with us if Luke and Sam hadn't been there for them. Thank you both. Love as always 🥰🥰
My dog Trixie I recovering from her first of two tplo surgeries. I will play this for her and my hubby and myself. Thanks for all you do for helping, giving, rescuing and saving fur babies lives. ❤
Maybe put it on whilst you are busy during the day or let it play on during the night? Brings extra needed revenue as i understood it. I like watching myself but not the 12 hours in one go so leave it on whilst shopping etc.Thnk you.
And the first 12h done ☑️ By my device alone (no dogs at home) while I was sleeping or at work BUT I'll enjoy this video little by little later 😍 So many memories for us as viewers and members to @TheFarmForDogs ❤ What a peaceful music too 🙏
Thank you for Dog TV videos. I will leave the video on all day for my senior pup. She enjoy watching TV and these videos are perfect for her and me for relaxations 👏👏🥰🥰🥰🇺🇸
My senior baby Hanna crossed rainbow bridge over a month ago. I miss her sooo much. I would love to see staffy family, beautiful Shadow and precious girls, Miss Violet and Miss Red 🖤💜❤️🖤💜❤️, thinking of my beautiful Hanna😇😇. I still watch the video for myself 🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸
Thank you for all your hard work Sam. These long videos will be great for dogs waiting for their people to come home or Farm fans like me in need of a dog fix and some relaxation.
Sitting here alone watching this lovely video-it reminds me of long ago as a child with mother and dad and we’d have family night watching the 8 mm family movies, no conversations to be heard, but a very good time being had by all. Eyes are misted seeing old friends again here. Thank you Sam and Luke for this lovely experience ❤ well done!
Oh my gosh, we used to do that occasionally too, watch the old 8mm family movies. My grandparents always had that cam in reach, and ready to use when us kids were little.
HA ha, it was so good to see all the Day Care doggies, especially the Christmas Truck photo session near the end of the video. Miss so many of them. Hope they are all having a grand life full of love. Thank you for these day long videos.
Their mum, Chris, just sold her farm. She's moving... I think a few hours closer to the Evans farm ... So maybe we'll see Luke make a visit??? That would be really special ❤. I know it was hard in some ways for Luke to let Chance go, but I think he really did make the right choice for Chancey boy. He's a very happy camper, and living his best life.
I had this on for background while I was doing household stuff. I must say how much I enjoyed seeing my favorites from the daycare days. All the Dashies swimming. Bandit popping the big ball. All the dogs trying to 'save' Luke in the pool. But especially "Uncle" Yo You with the puppies.
Hi Sam, now I have entertainment for my beloved laid on - makes me feel okay knowing lovely Daina dog can watch our favourite viewing whilst I am out of the house. Excellent , thank you so much ❤ Marie 🇬🇧
This is just FANTASTIC! It's bringing back so many happy memories! I wasn't too far into it before I found myself trying to remember the different farm dog's names. The little dogs chasing Luke on the bike reminded me of the incredible spirit and determination those little guys had! And of course the halloween party with the superheroes! The only ones who didn't fully appreciate the effort was the dogs. You guys were already their superheroes - without the Spandex and capes!!! I'm not far into it and I'm loving it all. Thank you again Sam - for all you do to bring this to us!
Thank you, thank you, thank you! So wonderful to see all of the old gang from DDC and the music is perfect Sam ❤❤🐶🐶. My husband has dementia and loved watching DDC in the early stages - now 18 months on from his diagnosis he is at the forgetting names stage and he doesn't like anything much anymore. But as I sit with him and watch all the doggos having a wonderful time, imagine my surprise when he whispered, 'Bandit'. I was nearly in tears - yes Bandit boy was always his favourite and for him to remember - well, I can't thank you enough. We watch in bite size pieces (the music relaxes him as well) - so there is plenty for us to enjoy and I will be able to play it over and over as he has no longer any memory. So a wonderful video, a wonderful treat and wonderful memories of DDC. Thank you so much Sam and Luke. Blessings from the UK.🐕🐕🐕🐕❤❤💜💜
Goodness, just had it running in the background while doing house chores and happened by, now I sit here watching small dog days - the dust bunnies can live to see another day…😅
Very relaxing...and no, I am not a dog. But every video that comes from The Farm is a good thing. I hope you get well soon. But since you are surroundedby a wonderful family and so many wet dog noses, it certainly will not take very long.
Love this! It’s like reliving good times and seeing Jason and Bandit again to name a few. I don’t have any animals, so I’m enjoying it with humans. It just reduces any stresses of the day. ❤❤❤
Awwww I love this video, very relaxing and a lot of fond memories of sweet Bandit and all of the precious daycare pups that I’ve missed. I loved every minute. ❤️
So many memories with Bandit (RIP) and all the daycare doggies. Some have gone to Adam and Ash but most no longer can see. Hope they are all happy and healthy.
I love seeing all the dogs from daycare days. Bandit, Frankie, Hatchie, Zara, Jimmy, the Viszlas, Freddy, Pablo. Annabelle and so many more. Thank you for these videos. Whenever I need a Farm fix I can watch these. ❤
Cannot get the wide smile off my dial! My dog is totally unaware of the big black shiny thing along the wall, and. I've only ever had one dog who would watch TV with or without me in the picture. What a loss for my Jake (English Staff)!! 😄😄
Perhaps Jake’s eyes aren’t as good as they used to be, but give home time, he might pick up on some of the TV images, dear boy🐾💙 Just seeing him mummy smiling so much and all relaxed will be a gift in itself🥰
Oh dear - are these suppose to be for dogs? I’m sitting here in my new Farm hoodie with my 2 dogs loving seeing those dogs who I remembered & loved & those I still love seeing on The Farm. Wonderful Sam ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️P.S got 2 devices going so it’s full on at our house😂
I don’t know if Donovan will watch but his momma sure is!❤ I’ll be happy to leave it on. We all need peace, tranquility and pups these days. God bless. ❤❤❤
AGREED.
Little Dog Day!!!! Oh boy do I miss seeing David! And Etta! And Frankie that little old potato!
Miss Violet being carried by her dad is the sweetest thing, she is sooooo adorable ❤❤❤
Oh Mr Yellow you were such a happy pup - stupid I know that it brings tears to my eyes even after all this time😢
@Sharon McK.. No, it's not stupid at all! Thanks for your love and empathy!❤❤❤
I feel that🥺. I'm glad he got to be on The Farm for his way too short life 💕🖤
Perfect background for doing chores around the house.
L❤ve seeing the old daycare crew!!
GOOD Times! Oh to be a doggie so loved. I could watch this forever....
This is exactly the type of music I listen to all day long. I’m hooked❤😊❤
Loving seeing all the doggies and picking out who is who. 🥰😃❤
Thank you for this!! My dog has terrible separation anxiety. xoxoxoxoxo
Thank you Sam for this relaxing video and music.😴😴😴
Beautiful for relaxing! Love seeing the DDCare! Miss seeing the King (Bandit) but this is great seeing them all in their prime!
Perfection personified, a truly magical way to put joy and happiness into our lives, nothing quite like it. Thanks a million Sam, simply made my day. Love and hugs to you all. Hxx❤️❤️❤️🌟🌟👋👋🙋
This is great!!! Love watching all our old friends from daycare❤❤❤. And yes, I’m the one watching😂😂😂 Dogs are asleep😂
ME TOO
This is perfect Sam. 12 hours of Cutie Pie, Tilly, Joey and Bandit?! Beyond happy! No doubt it takes a lot of work to put these together on top of everything else. Thank you!!!
OMG I miss daycare so much and small dog day 🤩😍🥰
This is exactly what my Dr. recommended for my own anxiety. Thank you.
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#DogsAreBest... hahaha yes, I know! So are cats, dingos, horses, goats lambies, ok - - ok!! all the animals are bestest. ❤❤❤
We are so blessed to have them in our lives!❤🎉🎉🎉
Sam this channel is a wonderful idea as I always put dog tv on for my dogs when I have to go out and now I'll be using your channel instead and be ablevto support my lovely farm family, 2 and 4 legged 💜🕯🙏
Beautiful relaxing video for the dogs and humans. This will help me sleep well tonight. ❤
Will let my dear Bella watch this 😊
and I find myself sitting here calling out their names and chuckling. There are so many ♥moments I remember and it def helps me to relax. After following The Farm for close to 4 years now, there are so many dogs I grown to love that I can not name them all (here).
This music is very zen and calming (which I'm guessing is your goal for long videos), but you guys literally have your own theme songs for your life at The Farm and it's those songs on your playlist video (the ones you usually use). Every time I hear any of those songs anywhere else, I instantly think of the Evans family and The Farm. They personify you guys and bring us all home to The Farm. I always want to hear them when I get to watch our Pack family. ❤ 🎶 🐾
i don't have a dog atm, but i'm working from home and this calm music is perfect for a background noise! you can count on me playing it 5x a week 😊
i don't have a dog either but i'll do what i can to support the farm!
Brilliant 👏🏼I don’t have a dog but these I will put on television as my new white noise ♥
Oh I'll be leaving this on loop on my old tablet...and the TV for my cats!!
Great idea, I have to find my tablet, and I will then join you in that practice!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ EXCELLENT idea!🎉🎉🎉 #TheFarm✨️✨️✨️
Hooray for the LOOPING!!!
In our pet household, we have been playing Farm Fun with all of your crew since this morning and almost at the 12 hr mark. I'm a YT Premium subscriber so catch the goings-on as I do what I need to and still see all the fun at the Farm. What a great group of dogs, cats and the humans who love/care for and do such a phenomenal job of training them.
Praying Sam for your healing and recovery. Praying, too, for Luke, your beautiful children and all the animals!
I have come to believe Cutie has an identity issue! There's a metaphor "If you can't run with the big dogs, you'd better stay on the porch"! It relates to getting ahead in the business world but every time I see Cutie running with all the big dogs, swimming in the pool and wrestling with the other dogs, I think of that saying. She doesn't know she's a small dog and a pug at that!
I'm here for all of Cuties identities😂, love it🖤💕
My old foxie Harry has separation anxiety. And I have anxiety about his anxiety! I will try the video out on him. It certainly relaxes me. 😊❤
Thank you Jan x
❤❤❤❤ wonderful!!!
This will be in the background all day ❤
I've been playing it every day for a week now. It's one of my favourites on this Dog TV channel.
This video definitely lifts my mood. Smiles that last 12 hours
So much fun remembering all the names. Ariel and the Dachshunds were outstanding chasing Luke on the bike and Donald dressed for Halloween.
Ps: Jealous Pablo trying to drown Zara. He wanted Uncle Luke all to himself.
Brilliant thank you 🙏🏻 ❤xx
I’ve been keeping these going all day. Such a great reminder of the wild journey the farm has gone through the last several years. Just so beautiful.
Wonderful! This will be great to have on in the background whilst working from home. Love it!
Beautiful video, Sam. Well done. ❤️
❤Loving seeing all the old familiar faces from daycare days. ♥️
It is like watching old home movies and seeing all our old family and friends again.
@@SheNiteOwl I thought so too
Just beautiful! Share, subscribe, like and watch! Leave on for your fur babies to enjoy!❤🐾 you will also be helping this wonderful family to continue their amazing rescue and rehabilitation of animals who have been failed by others.
❤ The Farm feeling
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The kangaroos and the music- magical. 😍 ❤
This is excellent. Never mind the dogs, I'm watching it for me. This would be perfect for nursing homes.
That's a lovely idea!
I agree! Nursing homes are a favorite stop for therapy dogs. The residents love them!
😂 same🖤! That would be a great idea for nursing homes and daycares.
Perfect for Children's Wards in hospitals also.
Boy do I agree 💯. Child care, nursing homes, doctors office waiting room, vet clinics, and I got one more... Prisons!! What a stress reducer!
It calms me just watching and great memories of The Farm with Doggie Daycare. I still love watching The Farm and all the Evans' family does for the rescue family. God bless you guys!
My dog Ruby loves watching your videos on The Farm channel with me. Thank you for these much longer videos that I can play on our TV for her while she's home alone.
another good one! like everyone else, i'm loving all the memories!
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Brilliant
Great 👍🏻 ❤
Brilliant. ❤❤
Miss the DDFT days so much. All those wonderful dogs going nuts all day and having the best time. It's so lovely there are lots of videos we can watch them whenever we want to and The Farm now is more precious as a haven for needy dogs that likely wouldn't be with us if Luke and Sam hadn't been there for them. Thank you both. Love as always 🥰🥰
I love Luke's humour. Nothing really seems to faze him, he just laughs off the little mishaps.
What a wonderful idea Sam and Luke ❤ I left it on overnight and now watching when i should be on a bus as up popped Miss Red and Miss Violet 😅 xx
🤣🤣🤣 I can’t resist those two cuties either!🐾💙
Awesome!!!
My dog Trixie I recovering from her first of two tplo surgeries. I will play this for her and my hubby and myself. Thanks for all you do for helping, giving, rescuing and saving fur babies lives. ❤
Thank you Glenys and hope Trixie's recovery goes smoothly x
I played all 12 hrs of the first one I "watched"🤣 ❤️🇬🇧
@@karennicol2559 👏
Love this!
Great Sam have it on in background at home
I probably wont be watching all 12 hrs myself but i found it very soothing. End it is good to see our old friends.
Maybe put it on whilst you are busy during the day or let it play on during the night? Brings extra needed revenue as i understood it. I like watching myself but not the 12 hours in one go so leave it on whilst shopping etc.Thnk you.
And the first 12h done ☑️
By my device alone (no dogs at home) while I was sleeping or at work BUT I'll enjoy this video little by little later 😍
So many memories for us as viewers and members to @TheFarmForDogs ❤
What a peaceful music too 🙏
Well done, setting my device up now for overnight👍🐾💙
Thank you for Dog TV videos. I will leave the video on all day for my senior pup. She enjoy watching TV and these videos are perfect for her and me for relaxations 👏👏🥰🥰🥰🇺🇸
My senior baby Hanna crossed rainbow bridge over a month ago. I miss her sooo much. I would love to see staffy family, beautiful Shadow and precious girls, Miss Violet and Miss Red 🖤💜❤️🖤💜❤️, thinking of my beautiful Hanna😇😇. I still watch the video for myself 🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸
Thank you for all your hard work Sam. These long videos will be great for dogs waiting for their people to come home or Farm fans like me in need of a dog fix and some relaxation.
The best dog fix ever!!!❤❤❤
So relaxing. I will try it too when we have thunder or fireworks, I am sure that it will help our dog. Thank you. ❤
Good idea!
Sitting here alone watching this lovely video-it reminds me of long ago as a child with mother and dad and we’d have family night watching the 8 mm family movies, no conversations to be heard, but a very good time being had by all. Eyes are misted seeing old friends again here. Thank you Sam and Luke for this lovely experience ❤ well done!
Lots of happy tears here too!🥲🥲🥲
My heart is full💖🐾
Oh my gosh, we used to do that occasionally too, watch the old 8mm family movies. My grandparents always had that cam in reach, and ready to use when us kids were little.
Who wouldn't be uplifted and calmed by this music and these lovely dogs.
What I put on now when I can't sleep ❤
Another home run Sam‼️🐶💖
HA ha, it was so good to see all the Day Care doggies, especially the Christmas Truck photo session near the end of the video. Miss so many of them. Hope they are all having a grand life full of love. Thank you for these day long videos.
How heartwarming it is reminiscing at so many familiar faces and the joy on each and every one of them. What a treat Sam, thank you. 🐾🐶💜
The dogs are just up to the part with Miss Violet & the piece of sausage at her nose - Oh I so love this little girl❤️❤️
I dozed off and have missed parts !! Miss Violet!! I'll have to go back and rewatch some parts!!!❤😂😂😂
Miss Violet is such a special one💖💖💖💖💖
Fat fingers hit thumbs down meant a like. Very sorry!!
Love seeing the familiar daycare dogs...miss all the Doxies though...and leaping Vislas ( sp? )
Oh...I miss our Chancey Boy. ❤
Chance and Nevaeh are having a wonderful life with their loving mum. Chance is cuddle bug and Nevaeh is just very very happy.
Their mum, Chris, just sold her farm. She's moving... I think a few hours closer to the Evans farm ... So maybe we'll see Luke make a visit??? That would be really special ❤. I know it was hard in some ways for Luke to let Chance go, but I think he really did make the right choice for Chancey boy. He's a very happy camper, and living his best life.
I had this on for background while I was doing household stuff. I must say how much I enjoyed seeing my favorites from the daycare days. All the Dashies swimming. Bandit popping the big ball. All the dogs trying to 'save' Luke in the pool. But especially "Uncle" Yo You with the puppies.
Go Farm!!!!!
Another video idea would be maybe a follow-up video how all the adopted dogs are doing in their new families??..tnx
I really like that idea! ❤
Heavenly 🪽🐾
I have an old phone so playing this all the time as the phone sits on the charger. So EASY...
Another great idea❤!
Loop the video on your phone = more views!! ❤
Hi Sam, now I have entertainment for my beloved laid on - makes me feel okay knowing lovely Daina dog can watch our favourite viewing whilst I am out of the house. Excellent , thank you so much ❤ Marie 🇬🇧
I don’t know about everyone else, but I can feel my blood pressure dropping…. Love it Sam!
Yep, great stress reliever, I can feel it almost instantly🧘♀️😴💙🐾
You just can't stop smiling, even if there are tears sometimes (Barney gets me every time he appears, what a love he was 😢)
Thank you for this Sam. They may not be super popular, but longer videos are actually some of my favorites! ❤❤❤ 😊
❤❤❤ 12 Hours of bliss!
This is just FANTASTIC! It's bringing back so many happy memories! I wasn't too far into it before I found myself trying to remember the different farm dog's names. The little dogs chasing Luke on the bike reminded me of the incredible spirit and determination those little guys had! And of course the halloween party with the superheroes! The only ones who didn't fully appreciate the effort was the dogs. You guys were already their superheroes - without the Spandex and capes!!! I'm not far into it and I'm loving it all. Thank you again Sam - for all you do to bring this to us!
I enjoyed seeing doggies from past day care days and the ones in the current pack! The music is relaxing. Please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE🐶❤
AMEN
Luke has the love of so many four pawed darlings. It's very touching to see.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! So wonderful to see all of the old gang from DDC and the music is perfect Sam ❤❤🐶🐶. My husband has dementia and loved watching DDC in the early stages - now 18 months on from his diagnosis he is at the forgetting names stage and he doesn't like anything much anymore. But as I sit with him and watch all the doggos having a wonderful time, imagine my surprise when he whispered, 'Bandit'. I was nearly in tears - yes Bandit boy was always his favourite and for him to remember - well, I can't thank you enough. We watch in bite size pieces (the music relaxes him as well) - so there is plenty for us to enjoy and I will be able to play it over and over as he has no longer any memory. So a wonderful video, a wonderful treat and wonderful memories of DDC. Thank you so much Sam and Luke. Blessings from the UK.🐕🐕🐕🐕❤❤💜💜
What a wonderful gift this video must be for him. ❤😢
My Dad is about mid stage in his dementia. He would love this too.
Gorgeous dogs having so much fun. I love the music.
Wonderful....!
Brings tears to my eyes as the doggies loved u soooo much & must miss u terribly like ❤❤❤❤❤❤😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Goodness, just had it running in the background while doing house chores and happened by, now I sit here watching small dog days - the dust bunnies can live to see another day…😅
Very relaxing...and no, I am not a dog. But every video that comes from The Farm is a good thing. I hope you get well soon. But since you are surroundedby a wonderful family and so many wet dog noses, it certainly will not take very long.
I agree with this 👍😸
So many good memories. Zara, Zak, Yoyo…on and on.
Love every bit of this🥰🤗🖤
So many memories. Wonderful video Sam. Thank you.
Love this! It’s like reliving good times and seeing Jason and Bandit again to name a few. I don’t have any animals, so I’m enjoying it with humans. It just reduces any stresses of the day. ❤❤❤
Awwww I love this video, very relaxing and a lot of fond memories of sweet Bandit and all of the precious daycare pups that I’ve missed. I loved every minute. ❤️
❤❤❤ amazing
So many memories with Bandit (RIP) and all the daycare doggies. Some have gone to Adam and Ash but most no longer can see. Hope they are all happy and healthy.
I love seeing all the dogs from daycare days. Bandit, Frankie, Hatchie, Zara, Jimmy, the Viszlas, Freddy, Pablo. Annabelle and so many more. Thank you for these videos. Whenever I need a Farm fix I can watch these. ❤
Cannot get the wide smile off my dial! My dog is totally unaware of the big black shiny thing along the wall, and. I've only ever had one dog who would watch TV with or without me in the picture. What a loss for my Jake (English Staff)!! 😄😄
So blow Jake; I'll just have to get down on all fours/paws, watch & provide a commentary to him, which is difficult as he now a deaf old doggy!😁😆
Perhaps Jake’s eyes aren’t as good as they used to be, but give home time, he might pick up on some of the TV images, dear boy🐾💙
Just seeing him mummy smiling so much and all relaxed will be a gift in itself🥰
Thanks for the memories!
It's like looking back in family album and remembering old friends x
Oh dear - are these suppose to be for dogs? I’m sitting here in my new Farm hoodie with my 2 dogs loving seeing those dogs who I remembered & loved & those I still love seeing on The Farm. Wonderful Sam ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️P.S got 2 devices going so it’s full on at our house😂
And here comes Big Ball! Whoopee.🤩👋🐩🐕🐶🐈🐈⬛
I'm loving the 12-hour videos! It's so fun to see my favorite dogs from DDCFT days. Thank you for creating them.
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This is what dog heaven must be like.