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- Is Russell Westbrook alienating himself from his teammates? Colin Cowherd, Jason Whitlock, Jim Jackon and Chris Broussard discuss.
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Serge Ibaka would have Defended Westbrook. Serge Ibaka hit Blake Griffin in the Nuts. Serge doesn't play around Serge would have hurt Zaza
Rich8927 to try and keep durant man
zaza is 280, ibaka is 240 nice try though
1AndyOnly Serge ripped
zaza would headbutt serge back to congo
Kendrick Perkins would headbutt Zaza to Georgia.
Westbrook averages 10 assists that's not sharing the ball?
KinG FitZ They're talking about the last few minutes of the fourth quarter
which is when the game counts, RW can easily get 10 assists by halftime, but when it comes down to winning games, he reverts to his old ways, we all remember the dunk over the rockets to win the game, but what about all the other bad shots that led to their team losing because westbrook wanted to do it all himself, his teammates can only be patient for so long, and we as fans can see the problems already
getting assists means absolutely nothing when it comes to involving teammates with a game flow in your offense this is a common misconception.
10 tos
Icecube88 do he average 10 TOs a game?
All they do is hate on Westbrook lool I don't know what he did wrong he is just playing hard funny how kd gets no hate for joining a 73-9 team!! shame on the nba fans back in the day he would have got destroyed by the fans
KD hasn't got any hate? You haven't been paying much attention.
Blair Holmgren bruv I'm suprised kd hasn't got assassinated yet
Fasil g dude better watch out when he go to OKC 😂
Baller 1718 cause he didnt join that 73 team dude he puttin in work
Did you even watch the video? Westbrook playing hard? Yeah, he's also jacking up a crazy number of shots with no accountability.
WHAT Accountability?? If Russell DOESN'T Average a Triple-Double Like What He's Currently Doing The Thunder would Be ONE of The Worst Teams in The NBA this Season. His Coach Billy Donovan has CONSTANTLY been Praising Westbrook's WORK ETHIC & Ability to INSPIRE His Teammates to play Better this Season. Outside of Steven Adams & Victor Oladipo The Thunder have NO Other Legitimate Scoring Threats on that Team. OFF Course The Warriors are Going to Destroy THIS Thunder Team Whenever They Play against them. KD Left His Former Team for an ALL-STAR Caliber Team. The Westbrook Hate NEEDS to Stop.
FGAlele Thank you. Facts
FGAlele Tru
kanter is alrightt, but yeah agree with the statement
exactly westbrook is carrying the team they dont have a good team at all. and like yku said if russ wasnt doing work they would be the worst team in the NBA
FGAlele westbrook is not a champion type player and has a low hoop i.q.
seems to me colin and others forgot who missed all those shots and turnover the ball along with russ in gm 6 in OKC...smh hop off russ' nuts
senoir butta Russell is the PG ha makes the decisions he has the ball more and control the offence more. it's also unfair to say KD should have win the game despite Westbrook bad play don't u think?
yes but still, everybody loves to be on top of RW's case. Iverson had a good run with a crummy team, but he did not get that ring... that hate on RW is just too much
THE GOLDEN BOY no its not when in gm 6 KD isolated the ball and had 2 TOs himself and a couple missed shots.
Mow Better Lawn Service the point is they both self destructed. im not tryna defend russell, i jus know KD also had a part. Ppl like colin make it seem like you should pass d ball to KD ALL THE TIME whic is bs....if u are russ n half the guards guarding u are mismatches u should take d mismatch no?
senoir butta congratulations to Russ now he can jack up as many shots as he wants. But the point is this he's got a mismatch every night but great teams try to get great shots even if that means passing up a good shot. That's what the Warriors, Cavs, and Spurs do consistently
KD was just as much at fault, he played horribly in the playoffs last year. OKC have the 3rd youngest roster in the league. They'll get better.
So when okc players miss open layups it's Russ fault. Russ passed an awful lot but only people that watch okc games would know this. I'm not just a Westbrook fan, I have watched all of okc games this year. There are some decisions, mainly late three pointers I don't agree with Russ taking, but for the most part, none of these guys are watching the games. Colin just loves to hate on Russ!
Quinton lovett Thank you! Which is why I'm ok with living and dying by whatever Russ decides.
Quinton lovett the NBA is showing favoritism . Westbrook is basically the Next Allen Iverson . That team is 🚮🚮. But he holding them up . He deserves a new team and a ring
Dude is averaging 10 assist with players that can't shoot this is a joke
himmie1 True but he's averaging 7 turnovers per game. Good teams will punish you. Yesterday against gsw he gave out 20 points out of 10 turnovers
William Neba What do you expect when Russell Westbrook is like the only guy that could make a difference?
He is playing awesome with averaging triple double
oladipo can shot
himmie1 Kwame Brown would average 10 plus assists with that usage rate😂
himmie1 Agreed
Westbrook wins but he hasn't learned how to play to win. See he has enough talent to whoop on the Pelicans but he still hasn't figured out that he needs much more from his supporting cast if he's gonna be a winner. All the triple doubles in the world won't make you a champion.
Thank you, finally someone understands... how will he pass the ball when they don't get open shots? They don't show that they can be clutch. His teamates should step up if they want to be in the highlight reel with Westbrook. And Oladipo is doing a great job with what he can do... he is a better shooter than he was in Orlando, but Oladipo isn't enough people you know that... Who can imagine LeBron winning a tittle with Oladipo instead of Kyrie?
Amen. And i think we should not underestimate the contribution of the coaches when comparing Harden/Rockets to Westbrook/OKC. Neither Billy Donovan or Mike D'Antoni has won the chip but D'Antoni has been around this league and NBA players a lot longer and show get some of the credit for the Rockets suprising play. Billy still needs to learn how to handle superstar guys and get them to buy into his vision like D'Antoni did with Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, and to a lesser degree Melo and Kobe. Westbrook is as stubborn as Melo and Kobe and probably wants to win just as badly (especially now to show KD) as Kobe did. Billy Donovan has to learn how to work with him like Phil Jackson did with Michael, Shaq, and Kobe.
Sabelo Masemola he averages 10+ assists. How much does he have to do. He's the best shooter on the team, best passer on the team, and the best floor general on the team
BALLER891 then where is his team? Maybe in other way around, he could be a champion but not now.
Sabelo Masemola Russ bmp kick the ball to Robertson wide open miss Victor miss have a few rookies morrow can't hit nun this year but it's Russ fault,give Russ sum snipers he would be leading the league in points n assist now harden has shooters and defenders
is that the dude that got in a fight with Jason Kidd over Toni Braxton
More Jim Jackson. He's intelligent, well spoken, and of course he knows bball more than most.
Russell Westbrook is an amazing athlete, talent and for the last few years and years coming he will remain a top 5 player, PERIOD.
That being said, he's obviously not a natural point, he's the new school hybrid guard. But he has horrible shot selection, limited offensive repertoire, lazy defense nowadays, bad playmaking decisions, turnover prone, etc. All of those things don't mesh well..
Ice-Man Gervin I'm seriously NOT hating. But in a world that you have Chris Paul: who scores efficiently with great percentages from anywhere on the floor, who racks up double digit dimes with little to no turnovers, who lockdowns bigger and stronger players on both guard positions, and who is perhaps the player with the highest IQ in the League, it's tough to love his reckless game. You also got cats like John Wall (23-10-4 right now), prime-Rondo (walking triple double, more with less), same position, better results because of efficiency and IQ.
Roberto Carlos I agree he has room for improvement but i like his game. He just has to evolve and after each game Donovan and Russell should break the game down so Russ can see his flaws for himself.
Roberto Carlos I agree with you to a point but CP3 has had better pieces than Westbrook and KD combined in LA and hasn't gotten into a WCF yet. What's the reasoning behind that?
Retrokidbk83 he took horrible teams in NOLA to the playoffs and has had the Clips in the top 3 of the WCF for years. Look up HIS numbers, you can't blame CP3 for the Clippers imploding, or getting injured, or just flat out choking. You can't.
why they always talk about the same teams
I'm sick of people saying that he didn't do this in the series against golden state last year. YES HE DID! Who led that series in turnovers down the stretch? Russell. Who shot 39% from the field that series ? Russell Westbrook. KD had 1 bad game if you actually look back at that series. Westbrook had 4. Stop saying he didn't do this against golden state last year because he did. The reason he left is because he got tired of the isos and wanted to play ball the way it's meant to be played. And this is coming from an okc fan
D Bag someone with a objective truthful comment. Westbrook ran that man outta town.
OKC could be as good as the rockets on the low, Russ just doesn't position those guys to get the ball when their hot, they got like 4 3 point shooters on they squad, but they get the ball rarely .
Rockets have a much better team
James Paponetti no not much better but a better coach
James Paponetti sabonis abrenis, Payton and oladipo are shooters, but until they get enough shot attempts we won't know if their not as good as the rockets
ahahah Oladipo is a shooter? And those other players you named are absolute trash. The rockets have proven players. Its not even close in terms of talent.
James Paponetti good point, but until we see them get more opportunities we shouldn't write them off as garbage, they have made clutch 3's in close games for OKC
So glad to see Jim Jackson back in the house! You guys need to bring him on more often.
If you listen to Jim Jackson it's OKC head office fault for getting coaches who aren't veterans.
I find it funny that Jim think he's know how that organization works.
url0veang31, he played for the Mavs in the beginning of his career, so he know what a dysfunctional organization look like.
url0veang3l he played for some decent ones in the kings and the rockets too, so his opinion > yours
All this talk about Curry taking Westbrook's spot. I'm pretty sure Curry showed who's boss this week, Destroying Kyrie, Westbrook, and Harden. Harden was the one who took Westbrook's spot, HE GOT EXPOSED
-Harden: 265 Turn Overs
-Westbrook: 242 Turn overs
-Curry: 127 Turn Overs...
Enough said, All you haters hating on Curry, If Curry was trying to throw up stats like those guys look at last year, 30PPG while sitting out most of the 4th quarter. Curry is more than shutting everyone up after he started hearing the chatter.
John Le curry can not guard any of those guys, so yea hes fresh to play attack anytime, plus the burden harden and westbrook re carrying is enormous compared to what curry has to do
John Le curry is a ghost cause he disappeared in the finals 3-1 and every time he plays against kyrie Irving his numbers always drops
^^"disappeared in the finals".... right
Tulia curry isn't a passing point gaurd he's a score first and Westbrook and harden are literally CARRYING their teams which explains the turnovers
im not surprised 2/3 players hes rough on are on the knicks
The shots for Russ just couldn't drop that's it
Brandon Lee nah Russ goes like 10 of 30 on the usual, he's not efficient but gets a lot of shot attempts
aji syms he's a career 30% shooter?
Kanter was owning, but yea lets play hero ball and lose the game as usual instead of getting my team involved.
Tests smh
Brandon Lee. no he just cant make right decisions
Why all this talk about holding Russ accountable, yet no one suggested someone on that roster who should step up?
You guys only look at stats, and not watch basketball. Y'all don't know Basketball. Assist doesn't say it all
On point analysis of Westbrook and the situation in OKC....
Poor Maurice Cheeks hahaha
Serge Ibaka did not want to be traded, but they traded him any way.
they're empty triple doubles! if you want to see meaningful triple doubles look at draymonds game.
junior ochoa i love this! Dray's haters will just say he kicks nuts. 😪
How is this dude get a show? You know how he feels about athletes. CERTAIN ONES!!!!!!!
I agree that Russell needs to be accountable to his coach first then his teammates.
We need more professional players on talk shows, those who can do, those who can't talk
That's why you can't have a soft coach coaching a superstar
That was the same for Durant in OKC no one held either of them accountable
Exactly bruh
jim jackson was a beast back then
His team isn't that bad, they're not great but they're not all that bad. The LeBron James effect is making sub-par teammates have great performances or at least find a role within the team in which they can excel. Chalmers was a key piece of the Heat team, solid defender and had a lot of open looks, Mike Miller was a key part of the 2012 Finals series when they beat OKC, Battier was a huge part of their team when they won their other championship in 2013. Westbrook has a great offensive big in Kanter, he has an all-around center who has good touch around the rim and can rebound/defend in Steven Adams, he has a two way guard that can score in Oladipo, he has some shooters off the bench in guys like Morrow and he has another young talented big in Sabonis. I'm not saying these guys are all-stars, but in big games Westbrook doesn't trust his teammates, doesn't allow them to find rhythm and make a name for themselves. Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon both are talented similarly to some of Westbrook's teammates, and Harden has allowed them to find their rhythm and develop their game in order for them to make a contention push. And to those who say Westbrook averages 10 assists, the majority of his assists are dump offs at the basket or kicking open for 3s, he rarely lets his teammates find rhythm and runs plays for them. I just think he's hurting himself because he's over aggressive and predictable, and when teams only have to worry about him and start doubling, his teammates are already out of rhythm.
Jim Jackson was underrated IMO
Truth.
The Silverback Perkins was the only one capable of holding both KD and Westbrook accountable. Scott Brooks was an enabler and Donovan isn't trying to step on anyones toes with the player drain OKC are currently in.
They didn't want it with Big Za that's why
This is one of the few times I agree with this guy saying Russ not self aware, & kind of not doing the things that helps the big picture.
Harden n Westbrook r top MVP candidates coz they're the only star player in their Team
but based of being efficeint
Steph Curry is above both of 'em.
Though he averages 25 ppg 7 apg and 5 rpg (approx.) (despite having KD and Thompson) which is
lower than the harden and Westbrook's no.s
He's shooting
40% from 3pt
55% from 2pt
93% from FT line
which is way higher than Harden and Westbrook which are
32% from 3pt
45% from 2pt
and
82% from FT line
OKC = Insane Running The Asylum. #EFFWESTBROOK
Im a Westbrook guy so i dont know why Shitlock thinks he hasn't improved. He needs a Poppovich type of coach that can help him slow his game down. He'll continue to evolve and mature.
Did he say Westbrook hasn't learned to share the ball when he's averaging double digit assists?
He had 13 assist?! Lol smh
Colin's makeup game is strong lmao
Finally someone said it and I'm seriously starting to lose respect for Chris Broussard "It doesn't matter how he plays" of course it matters these stats are ridiculous but it's totally possible to be selfish and assist over 10 a game look at the way he plays he doesn't give up the rock unless he can get an assist out of it people act like Oladipo, Kanter and Adams are scrubs you could argue that there squad is actually better then Houston's and look what they are doing
Sheep Herder that would be a terrible argument those 4 guys are not as great as the Houston team. your right they can be better but not better than Htown
Toxic Melody Your kidding right? If these teams met in the playoffs that would be an interesting series what I'm saying is people act like those players are scrubs and Russ is on like the Lakers or something and if he doesn't average a triple double they have no chance lol and that's what I find ridiculous
Sheep Herder they are scubs though aside from Adams and Kanter who can create on their own.....but Victor is too inconsistent. ..Roberson is only good on def(sometimes)......I like Sabonis (however you spell it) but if his 3 isnt falling he isn't that good.....the rest of the bench is trash so yeah they need WB if no WB I dont think OKC makes the playoffs....your right he doesn't need a triple double all he needs to do is get everybody started because he can get his at anytime
Westbrook is a point guard not a shooting guard. Yet he plays like one and the team does suffer a bit. Yeah he's been doing triple-doubles a lot more but he is still a shoot first point guard. Maybe they should move him to shooting guard and bring in a pass first point guard. Westbrook can do what he does best and they have a point guard that gets everyone involved.
Jason Lachhman well they'll never know unless they try it. He has the height, speed and basketball I.Q. to do it. Worst case it becomes a failed experiment and can return to a point guard position. Sometimes a risk like that can pay off. And if he's a shooting guard they would be able to open the floor a lot more. You can't really say he can NEVER be a shooting guard until its been experimented with. Westbrook's point to assist ratio favors him as more of a shooting guard anyway.
Unguided Reaper he's among the league leaders in assist who are you gonna bring in?
Jason Lachhman - Westbrook can be a SG. He played the SG in college, and his mid-range shot is money.
Unguided Reaper basically get James harden 2.0
Kambui Bomani more or less. OKC has enough shooters and their big men can score in the post. They don't need another James Harden type player. More of a Rajon Rondo pass first PG. Having Westbrook as PG has hurt the team and limited them.
How does John Wall not have good self-awareness, Colin? You clearly don't watch the wizards.
He hasn't grown but statistically is number have improved? and the way they fine players today is due to the fact they dont want players fighting..
KD should've had the balls to hold Russ accountable himself
KD wasn't responsible for that...
Westbrook should've waited to go to the Lakers instead of signing that extension
All he does is give 100% every minute he's on the court. To call Westbrook a selfish player is very misguided, he does take bad stand still 3's and turns the ball over due the aggression he plays with but when his teammates are open he finds them and is a willing passer. What he's doing should be celebrated he has OKC positioned as a playoff team with a winning record, they just aren't an elite team but Westbrook is an elite player.
In my opinion rightly or wrongly Westbrook is being blamed for Durant leaving and thereby causing OKC to go from perennial contenders to also rans in a season. There may even be resentment in the fact that he got a fat extension to stay with the Thunder, thereby rewarding his actions that led to Durant's departure.
my dog still a beast
Everyone's like... "how can u speak bad about him??? He averages 10 assists." Yeah stats are nice and all but basketball is all about getting WINS
If it wasn't for Westbrook, OKC would be dead last in both conferences, and if Russ had better shooters on his team, he would average 20 assists a game. Plus, he's the star player in the team, ofc he's gonna take the deciding shots rather than pass it to his below par teammates.
Let us not forget that the Thunder win almost all of their games when Westbrook records a Triple Double.
these sports guys are like old gossipy women....they are just praising weatbrook and talking about durant as if he was a trader
abbott360 na 😂😂could you imagine The View but they talked about sports
They act like if he wasn't there it would be a better team.... he is the x factor. The team would be broken if he wasn't there.
Kobe was the same way after Shaq left. They have a point, but you must allow greatness to develop. Like MJ did before Phil came.
brandon taylor Big difference. Kobe ran Shaq out of town. Kobe WANTED to prove his greatness. Westbrook desperately wanted Durant to stay because deep down he knows he cant win without KD.
is westbrook average 20 assist a game ppl still would find some way to hate on him the nba and the fans are a joke
They didn't rush to Russ's defense because they didn't want to get kicked out. In today's NBA it's entirely possible.
its the coaches. They need a larry brown
"when the games on the line you give better shooter the rock" yeah because between mj and Steve Kerr I'm definable leaving it up to Kerr to create something...smh
Kerr was a far better shooter than MJ. Hold this L
Wow that chubby boy sounds like he can ball lol
Can someone explain me the hat
The only thing Whitlock can comment on is snacks
I mean who else is he supposed to give the ball to? No disrespect to his teammates but he deserves to take all those shots
Adams would have came to help him but he did not play that game
russ didn't take the heart out of the team, russ is the heart of the team
nothing Westbrook does can win them a championship. so let him play however he wants. it at least makes for good tv.
Because they didn’t see it...
without westbrook.. this team is in the Midwest with no one watching... he's signing ur checks..don't let ur meal ticket go down fellas...
they really hate on Westbrook
Kevin Durant just made it easy for everyone to bash Russell Westbrook for being a flashy, erratic player that will NEVER win a title.
What does KD have to do with this or are you just salty about his decision?
cuz Oklahoma don't want no trouble wit the WESTCOAST!!!
Westbrook is a true competitor with no supporting cast... Their best player behind Westbrook is probably Oladipo & he's just an average player who is capable of a highlight every now & then. Look at how his team played when Russ got ejected early against Memphis. Memphis ran through OKC like they were a HS team. Idk anyone on OKC who can create their own shot or when Westbrook is off can take over the game or even help bring energy to the team when they're lacking and in need for some.
wtf is this crazy hat guy talking about?
what else should westbrook do 50 plus career triple dbls 22 this season alone . they loss the 3-1 lead because of durant leaving 4 gsw throwing games left and right
Don't get fooled by the assist total. They usually come off Westbrook attacking the basket. No ball movement, just pick & roll.
They make stuff Russ never come off the bench early even when the other team pull away on the bench. They come with same rotation baring fouls
either they're all soft or, they don't like him.
That doesn't matter, maybe players know better but seems that the NBA doesn't. THEY are the ones that need to do something because the longer this is let go, the more likly a player is really gonna get hurt BAD!!!!
I can't stand this big guy just by looking at him when he talks.
Every time this dude Jason Whitlock talks...I just shake my head...Sp basically they should trade Russ so they become a better team right? Yea ok...
The league is soft now & it isn't the fault of players. Same thing happened to John Wall a week or so ago... Wall was flattened by an opponent & no team mates went to defend him. The league fines "some" guys heavily for any type of retaliating. The old critiques about Westbrook are garbage. KD was gun shy at end of games a lot of the time in OKC. Besides that, the coaches gave Westbrook the green light to keep defenses honest & 90% of guards can't keep track of Westbrook with or without KD. Dude has matured as his game has peaked at the best time imaginable. Westbrook is the best player in the league right now. He can score like Jordan, rebound like JKidd use to do & is a very capable passer in transition or a set offense. He's the MVP, but fans and purists are stuck hating like they did with James at first and iverson at first. Westbrook doesn't fit in a previous mould He breaks it.
tomblueforest no. Definitely NO.
Lmao Yo who is this Jim jackson though?? Accountable bro you can't account for the talent in westbeast socks
If Westbrook wasn't having the season he having now, The thunder are a below average team.
I hate sport pundits. everything is blown up and put in what I call a soap opera cycle
kd has great self awareness? what has he ever won that Russ hasn't won? why couldn't kd, with all his gifts and size step up on defense and do things like rebound and pass when he was up 3-1 to GS? again kd gets let off the hook, kd must pay off journalists I swear never seen a supposed great player let off as much as him. imagine if Lebrin had zero rings and had played with Russ and harden and ibaka on the same team...insane.
Westbrook leaves it all out on the court.literally. they acting like he doesn't pass the ball lol. Durant is on a super team and was a super team before he got there.
Russ is hotdogging stats
wtf ya talking about.
dude is right Westbrook will put up them garbage triple dubbles an will make it look good on his stat sheet but his team won't win
ALLLL FAAACTS
GSW
welcome to a panel of guys who can't do 1/1000th of what Westbrook can do and critique him. haha. it so easy critiquing someone on something you don't and can not even dream of doing
This fool with the fedora and worst suits and fashion of all time lmao
Westbrook is not a team leader, just looking at being in the spotlight and stat padding, I don't think his teammates like him very much, except the 2 big men he often feeds for easy assists
Blackenedification that's why KD left and u cant blame him. They're not in good terms.