The justification for this rule was to make it easier for umpires to judge legal/illegal pitches. Letting both feet leave the ground does remove the need for umpires to judge whether or not the drive foot leaves the ground but then they replace that with an either harder judgement of determining whether or not the front foot lands futher from the pitching plate as a result of a replant and push. NCAA rule 10.5.4 states "If the pitcher, for a second time in a pitching motion, bears weight on the drive leg (or back foot) prior to the release of the ball, this shall be interpreted as a REPLANT". Seems a simple definition and doesn't require the umpire to judge whether or not there was a push that caused the front foot to land further from the pitching plate. NFHS needs to adopt the NCAA definition of replant.
A couple of things to note on the comments. First, this is not some guy doing a video and having no idea what he is talking about. This is from the National Federation of High Schools. The NFHS decided to use this video because they thought it best illustrated the new rule. It is intended to show what the NFHS finds as acceptable. Second, the definition of a replant is different under NFHS rules and USSSA and USA Softball. The NFHS definition of a replant is that it is not a replant if the pivot foot does not push from anywhere other than the pitching plate. Under the NFHS definition, landing on the pivot foot is acceptable as long as there is no push off from there. In USSSA and USA Softball, the pitcher must land on the non-pivot foot. That is the difference.
New USA Softball Rules: Rule 6A Sec 3.K . (Women’s and JO Girls) Pushing off and dragging the pivot foot in contact with the ground or having both feet in the air is allowed. Definition of Leaping: LEAPING: (Fast Pitch) An act by the pitcher when both feet become airborne on the initial move and push from the pitcher’s plate.
Too bad the umps are calling that an illegal crow hop. Tough to coach this game when umps don’t know the rules. Even showed this video to umps. Doesn’t matter.
This is just an invitation to umpires to ignore any of it. They replaced something relatively easy to police with something that will be quite uncomfortable to call. Umpires will tend to let it go unless there is a clear, objective rule violation.
I agree. This video makes no sense. She clearly planted her foot after the initial push off. How anyone can say she didn't replant her pivot foot is beyond me.
Womens college softball averages are in the mid to high 400's, and even over 500 for the top players. This is too high, they have to give pitchers a greater advantage. Simple. If you have 500 batting averages all over the place, scoring gets way too high.
By NCAA rule the pitch in the video would be illegal since the pitcher's back foot was clearly bearing weight a second time before release of the ball.
@@todds6821Theres a big difference between “bearing weight” and pushing off a second time. A pitcher bears weight on the drive leg even when you drag. The deciding factor is that the pitcher in the video never pushed off a second time.
This is absolute nonsense. If she isn't replanting her pivot foot then what is she doing? She is crow hopping ahead at least 6 feet and THEN releases the pitch. This is not the intent of the rule. The rule is about allowing the pivot foot to not be in contact with the ground when the ball is released and it is legal when BOTH feet are OFF the ground, not replanted after a leap and then pitched. I mean, COME ON!
This is a perfect example of someone on the Internet who has no idea what he is talking about. Leaps are allowed now but you can't leap and replant your back foot, push off your back foot and pitch the ball. If you leap and land on your front foot, no problem. If you land on your back foot, that is a crow hop or replant. I will be showing this video to my USA Softball Association members at tomorrow's meeting. This is an illegal pitch.
It is illegal in USA softball, but this video specifically says this is for NFHS. They have different rules for pitching. You may not like the new rule, I'm not a fan either, but this guy perfectly describes it. The video is obviously an over-exaggetated motion, as no pitcher would ever do that, but it was to show an example of the new rule.
good luck getting consistent umpiring
The justification for this rule was to make it easier for umpires to judge legal/illegal pitches. Letting both feet leave the ground does remove the need for umpires to judge whether or not the drive foot leaves the ground but then they replace that with an either harder judgement of determining whether or not the front foot lands futher from the pitching plate as a result of a replant and push. NCAA rule 10.5.4 states "If the pitcher, for a second time in a pitching motion, bears weight on the drive leg (or back foot) prior to the release of the ball, this shall be interpreted as a REPLANT". Seems a simple definition and doesn't require the umpire to judge whether or not there was a push that caused the front foot to land further from the pitching plate. NFHS needs to adopt the NCAA definition of replant.
A couple of things to note on the comments. First, this is not some guy doing a video and having no idea what he is talking about. This is from the National Federation of High Schools. The NFHS decided to use this video because they thought it best illustrated the new rule. It is intended to show what the NFHS finds as acceptable. Second, the definition of a replant is different under NFHS rules and USSSA and USA Softball. The NFHS definition of a replant is that it is not a replant if the pivot foot does not push from anywhere other than the pitching plate. Under the NFHS definition, landing on the pivot foot is acceptable as long as there is no push off from there. In USSSA and USA Softball, the pitcher must land on the non-pivot foot. That is the difference.
USA softball using the same example as legal
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I’ve never thought that the ball should be released before the foot leaves the the mound.
New USA Softball Rules:
Rule 6A Sec 3.K . (Women’s and JO Girls) Pushing off and dragging the pivot foot in contact with the
ground or having both feet in the air is allowed.
Definition of Leaping: LEAPING: (Fast Pitch) An act by the pitcher when both feet become airborne on the
initial move and push from the pitcher’s plate.
056 Annabelle Ferry
Too bad the umps are calling that an illegal crow hop. Tough to coach this game when umps don’t know the rules. Even showed this video to umps. Doesn’t matter.
In men's we love the crow hop !
This is just an invitation to umpires to ignore any of it. They replaced something relatively easy to police with something that will be quite uncomfortable to call. Umpires will tend to let it go unless there is a clear, objective rule violation.
I don’t like this rule. I think the pivot foot should not be allowed to replant spikes down. But it is what it is.
I agree. This video makes no sense. She clearly planted her foot after the initial push off. How anyone can say she didn't replant her pivot foot is beyond me.
If they do not wast us to call it just say don’t call it…but don’t say she did not replant or gain an advantage. Because she does
Womens college softball averages are in the mid to high 400's, and even over 500 for the top players. This is too high, they have to give pitchers a greater advantage. Simple. If you have 500 batting averages all over the place, scoring gets way too high.
Give the pitchers a mound
@@JeffEstep ... and watch pitcher knee injuries skyrocket! Women's anatomy makes them naturally more prone to ACL injury than men.
@@dogpatch75 ahhh I wasnt aware of that complication
By NCAA rule the pitch in the video would be illegal since the pitcher's back foot was clearly bearing weight a second time before release of the ball.
@@todds6821Theres a big difference between “bearing weight” and pushing off a second time. A pitcher bears weight on the drive leg even when you drag. The deciding factor is that the pitcher in the video never pushed off a second time.
This is absolute nonsense. If she isn't replanting her pivot foot then what is she doing? She is crow hopping ahead at least 6 feet and THEN releases the pitch. This is not the intent of the rule. The rule is about allowing the pivot foot to not be in contact with the ground when the ball is released and it is legal when BOTH feet are OFF the ground, not replanted after a leap and then pitched. I mean, COME ON!
This is a perfect example of someone on the Internet who has no idea what he is talking about. Leaps are allowed now but you can't leap and replant your back foot, push off your back foot and pitch the ball. If you leap and land on your front foot, no problem. If you land on your back foot, that is a crow hop or replant. I will be showing this video to my USA Softball Association members at tomorrow's meeting. This is an illegal pitch.
Looks like a Crow hop to me also.
It is illegal in USA softball, but this video specifically says this is for NFHS. They have different rules for pitching. You may not like the new rule, I'm not a fan either, but this guy perfectly describes it. The video is obviously an over-exaggetated motion, as no pitcher would ever do that, but it was to show an example of the new rule.
It's clearly an advantage for the pitcher. Shouldn't be allowed.
That's a Crow hop