Hidden - China's Flagship EVs are Exploding in Huge Numbers
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A huge wave of explosions are causing China's best cars to burn to the ground
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These EVs are making it to America because in the last year there's been an influx of Chinese citizens coming into the country illegally and sometimes they're coming from Canada and sometimes they're coming from Mexico but many of them are driving through the desert
talk about carbon footprint 👣
The "wheel falling off" part almost sounds like an antitheft measure from Mr. Bean.
15:05
China's "highspeed rail" BRI project in Massachusetts constantly catches fire.
20 years and it's still not complete. It needs National attention and shaming to shut down.
"East/west rail" is a money pit.
@@wisdomleader85That's only because it's a intro model the more expensive ones comes with a detachable steering wheel that you can take with you that's the complete Mr.Bean model 😜
From internal combustion engine to spontaneous combustion batteries, what a marvel of technological progress!
ICE fires can be extinguished relatively easily. EV fires can burn for days.
It's their new weapon. 😱
Thank Elon
nearby a Porsche (ICE) burned completely and the cars next to it i doubt the owner cared that it was put out faster xD
Ok but the other hundreds / thousands of people driving or walking on the road care
BYD: Burn Your Dreams 🔥🚘🔥
😂😂🤣🤣👍👍
Blowup Your Deek 💥👃💥
😂😂
😂 good one
Now that's a spot on
Dude, my Chinese made shaving machine blew up whilst being charged for the very first time. It literally blew up, and I didn’t even get to use it, not even once. That’s $70 down the drain. My previous German-made (Braun)shaving machine, lasted from 2009-2022.
Chinese made hand grenade cleverly disguised as a shaving machine!
(After stealing your money, they didn't want to leave any witnesses behind!)
Good it didn't go in self destruction mode while on use on your head 😂😂😂
Why did you even bought a Chinese one anyway?
🔥🔥🔥 Tesla Tesla Tesla is now being used as a weapon🔥🔥🔥 The USA military is driving Tesla into enemy bunkers, tanks, silos, and dropping Tesla from B52s!🔥🔥🔥
Better for it blow up charging than while it’s on your face
I know I'm pretty late but GODDAMN that motorcycle in the elevator had me absolutely mortified for those two... I can't imagine the horror of knowing that thing IS going to explode at ANY moment, you can see the panic setting in on those two poor people...
If you look closer you'll actually notice that the second person who entered placed down a battery bank and that's the source of the smoke. It probably produced some kind of sound or smell which is why they both kept staring at it. Still a nightmare scenario
@@connorelliott7881 Nightmare is right.
Stupid is as stupid does
Who the fuck takes a scooter into a lift
Yup, the worst possible scenario.
What gets me on a lot of these, are the jets of flame shooting out. It's not just the vehicle itself, but a threat to other vehicles and even people around them.
The radiant heat from one electric car is sufficient to break the seal on the battery in another electric car parked next to it, creating a chain reaction of igniting cars. It will be very exciting to see when a parking structure is full of enough of these for the whole thing to go off.
@@Miyuki2319 So like GTA? lol
Unfortunately telsa has this problem too. I'm obviously not justifying anything. It's just something to be aware of.
That happened because of covid. Spontaneous combustion. Official CCP disclosure. Lock down all the serfs in response.
That's Molten Lithium and alumium holy S*7t.
This is why Japanese automakers are "behind" in the EV game. They have to make sure that the technology they're putting in their cars actually WORKS, instead of, you know, catching fire.
Toyota is developing Hydrogen electric technology because they see it as more viable than batteries. Once Toyota brings an EV to the US and its been out a few years, I might consider getting one.
@@wes773105333 the BZ4X is a solid first attempt by Toyota imo. People complain about the range and all but, who actually drives more than 200 miles on a daily basis?
Japan ev's brought down a cargo ship.
@@hycoperosity5843 most ev's exposed to the same conditions would catch fire. There is a reason they're starting to ban them from ships.
@@wes773105333 Their first EV had to be recalled because the wheels fall off. Toyota head of engineering recently said they tore down a Model Y and is saying Tesla engineering and manufacturing is lightyears above Toyota... A "symphony of engineering and manufacturing" is a quote. So far Ford, VW and Toyota have said that they are far behind Tesla in technology and manufacturing...
Made In China really means Remain In China
People with Thomas The Tank Engine obsession comments don't really count buddy....
@@markmark5269people with china obsession comment don't count bud
Most of the electrical things u own will be made in China or the internal parts made in China
@@boyasaka Imagine the OP's house if everything made in China was removed as he requires ....
@@markmark5269 it would be empty
This is why I'm very wary about Chinese made Bluetooth ear buds. The thought of the battery exploding or catching fire in my ear is scary.
head in the sand much ya ostrich pmsl
Ah crap now you got me thinking about
@@jlleibold1974 source ? Proof ?
Kindly share ncap ratings
Most of Sony ear buds are Made in Malaysia.
@@letitiaprincess1125 nope . From china
the horizontal flame thrower mode is quite impressive. I heard they had primitive propane versions of those as carjacker deterrents in Johannesburg, but those were intentional and only worked in small bursts.
Seen those too, lol.
Some great vids of flame fried SA thugs. Funny shit, asses on fire and their heads are catching, swatting themselves like they're dancing the macarena🎆 LOL
Wonder how much the subscription for flame thrower mode is? 🤔
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) -------------
How I miss them olde days, when everything worked in S. A. Hahaa... I would absolutely loved to see them flame throwers back in action.. Hah
When I was a child I wanted a big house like in American movies, with a big garage integrated. Now with all these EVs I want my garage to be a free-standing structure at least 10 meters away.
you should always want your garage to be freestanding and NOT at the front of the house Attached garages (at the front of the house) are a result of poor design and building practices starting in the early 70's.
@@hamyncheese Yes but convenient when there is bad weather and cold outside :)
@@randomnik70 Also much safer from criminals.
Just park your car in the swimming pool.
@@V100-e5q water is not effective at stopping lithium battery fires. So believe it or not even parking your car in the swimming pool wouldn’t stop the battery from overheating soon as you take the car out of the water it would combusting fire. Don’t believe me Google how much water is necessary to put out an EV fire 🔥
The self heating feature looks pretty cool. Maybe not in summer.
Such a nasty comment, I like it :p
Useful for some barbecuin' as well!
@@cheecharron1244 China is expected to have food rationing shortly. ''Long pork'' might be the way to go, especially since most of the organs have already been removed, and they have millions in jails ready to be ''harvested''.
@@LostCylon you're encouraging the Chinese courts to hand out more death sentence
@@LostCylon To any " real " cannibal , " long pork " is symbolic of human flesh !
I overheard a Chinese man ask about a certain Japanese brand and where it's products are made. When the employee said made in China the Chinese man left. 😂
😂😂😂🙏🙏🙏
That man has seen some things
LOL.... I mean.. I recently bought a VERY old... brand of malt sugar.. even THAT was SO diluted it was surreal?!!?! I bet that, some small local companies have been bought out a lot... and then asset stripped to the point that.. they use those companies and those money to fill in their glorified projects or whatever. I bet that this is what had been going on. Cos I cannot for the life of me think... why isn't these malt sugar tastes as strong any more. I bet it is one of those "I will dilute one single real one,into 10 fake ones to sell on Amazon".... kind of sh!tty scam. People are way too obsessed with money these days... It's just... sigh...
There must be a limit to nonsense, a pitiful person living under the media that takes out of context and smears China
The biggest problem is that even when you constantly lower the temperature of the fire with water the shorted battery will continue to discharge rapidly until it simply cannot any more. And heat will probably fuse together more and more parts of the battery until everything is shorted. My god imagine a mass crash in a tunnel in a world with the majority being electric cars that would be absolutely deadly.
Few years ago a diesel car started to burn in Norwegian airport parking hall. Several gas tanks exploded destroying that section of parking hall. Several EVs burned, but not a single battery burned. Accident in a tunnel full of EVs would much less serious than with gas cars. Hydrogen cars would make it much worse.
You just made a very sobering point. That would be a very nasty domino effect.
@@jkn6644 EVs with safer batteries would. But in China they use the least safe chemistries.
Those chemistries emit oxygen gas in significant quantities when they burn, so the graphite and metal electrodes also catch fire. Metal+graphite fire is no joke!
@@adamrak7560 there is no safer battery
Gasoline burns more easily and you are most likely carrying 2-3 times more energy in the gasoline than in the battery. I would be far more worried about such a crash happening with gas cars. Much more likely to spread from car to car with the explosive flames from gasoline vs heat but mostly contained for batteries.
I have a fireman friend and he told me these electric cars are ridiculously hard to put out, the degrees at which they burn is incredible compared to regular fires..He said water barely works..They need to find something that can put these fires out quickly
How about fossil fuels instead? Those actually WORK
The thing is, there's barely anything flammable inside a car, so for it to catch fire it must be incredibly hot. And the temperature rises due to the energy from the battery, so you can't put it out, it just heats up again until it runs out of charge.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803 I would not recommend fossil fuels to put out the fires...
😂😂😂@@r.gelmers6580
I sometimes work in tunnels here in Europe. In general, only diesel-fueled vehicles are allowed inside the tunnel as diesel doesn't ignite as much as gasoline; and this is also the reason why especially EVs are NOT allowed inside a tunnel under construction.
That's really interesting bro thanks your your insight
I remember that horrible Mont Blanc Tunnel Fire. I can imagine they don’t want to repeat that.
We would use diesels powered by propane in tight spaces. It produces much less exhaust.
Diesel is also very fuel saving too.
@@garryli2030there is synthetic ,and it works very well ,
cant wait to have these evs in Australia. they should compliment our bushfire seasons
Not many there yet? They are starting to become almost common here in Canada and I live in a small isolated city. Only started to see them locally maybe two years ago now I see one at least once a day
We in Finland are Lucky.
They started selling those here.
😂😂😂
yes and in south Europe
Have you been cold this winter ???
This is a good example of why I’m 100% confident in the lab leak origin of the virus.
Or they knew the lab leak would be a great cover for doing it on purpose
@@steveb9713 Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
@@steveb9713 Could be, but if there is anything I've learned from this channel and other China watcher channels is that quite a bit of China's problems can be attributed to incompetence. It just ends up looking like malice because of how vehemently the CCP deny any mistakes and missteps.
@@taterkaze9428 Ukraine flag pfp 🤮
@@steveb9713 or the lab leak was a red herring and the real origin was bats determined to take over the world hahaha om commands of their master count dracula from the west.
Silly ppl.
Yes on purpose , its more deadly to non whites so they released it on themselves . Duh
Scientists have now found the virus is naturally resent in raccoons which they eat.
So dont eat things that are not meant to be eaten.
Not the first case of animals passing diseases onto humans
Bird flu
Swine fever
Mad cow disease
Foot n mouth disease
Rabies
As a Chinese, My friendly advise: DO NOT BUY CHINESE CARS for the sake of your life.
I try to never interact with anything china related
@@bomnitoperro9422you mean like UA-cam videos😂
@@GF-nm1cl this man is not a chinese person, teiying to scam me and proclaim themselves as genetically superior, so im fine with this. Imagine being acrually so srupid as you are
But-what about a Jac T9 green demon 😢
i dont gamble with my safety. all my cars are german, italian or japanese. the "axis alliance" make the best cars. period.
The older Tesla from 2012-2013 also catch on fire but when Tesla heard about that, they put a massive titanium cover to protect the battery and a really big fan to help the battery cool down when overheat! Chinese brand don't have these!!!!
no the chinese fans are crap as well.
As an ex volunteer fire fighter I know how hard it is to extinguish any car on fire. But also know that lithium spontaneously combusts when exposed to water. That's like fighting fire with fire.
I watched a video of a tesla in Texas that the owner piled books on the seat and sat in the passenger seat and let it drive in autopilot. It autopiloted itself into a tree. It burned and they put I think 21,000 gallons of water on it over 4 hours before it went out
Modern batteries aren't made from lithium.
It's cobalt+iron. Which is more safe, I guess.
But cutting corners and disregarding safety tasting will account for that inconvenience 😂
😂😢😂😂😢
@@ik2254lifepo4 is still use in many modern big brand car
There's not a lot of lithium in a lithium battery. That's not the issue. The problem simply is that the battery has all that's needed inside: the fuel, the oxygen, and the ignition source, which means you can't put out the fire until it has internally ran out of one of those. Your goal is just to keep the battery and the surroundings cool enough in order to not let the fire spread while it's using up all its energy.
These are class Delta fires, in the navy the preferred method for Delta fires was to jettison whatever was burning over the side into the ocean.
Too bad cars don't drive in the ocean.
Will it become a Delta Mike fire then? (Discard Maritim)
There are commercial products available to put out these fires. They make the battery very cold basically.
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 The problem is getting close enough to the exploding/burning EV to use those products.
You get what you paid for … you paid for a metal moving coffin, and you got it !
Once the battery is in thermal runaway, the battery produces oxygen and heat through a chemical reaction that then produces flame. It can be submerged in water and still not be extinguished. It can be put in a vacuum and still burn. The batteries needs to burn completely before the fire is considered extinguished. Water is used to cool it while it burns.
Interesting. Thanks for succinct explanation.
They should adapt and bring more more water with EVs burning
@@Comradpetito in fact water helps lithium batteries to burn, you'll need a fire extinguisher for that specifically
but the best picture where the car loses its entire rear axle with the wheels, how cool is that?
hmm...someone should tell the dopey climate activists blocking up the roads about this! Doesn't sound very environmentally friendly. Like those windmills that kill thousands and thousands of birds.
Just as an added note, my 31 year old petrol car has leaked gasoline in the engine bay for about 3 days until i caught it, and replaced a cracked rubber hose. The point is, that all the petrol what leaked went straight onto the exhaust manifold, what is extremely hot most of the time, and it still didnt catch fire. It evaporated before it could ignite. So remember, things can, and WILL happen, and its pretty important how "bullettproof" is the technology. We are using petrol for over than 100years now.. and it shows.
it's the evaporated gasoline that ignites. you did get quite lucky
@@03056932 nah, happened to me again since then, the retainer failed, so it was pouring big time, but again, besides the stink of petrol nothing happened
You may be surprised to learn how many gasoline cars catch fire each year. According to our analysis of data found in the National Fire Protection Association, Reuters, and U.S. fire departments, there are an estimated 284,130 gasoline cars that catch fire every year.
@@ThePeca1988 your own example, an anecdote, doesn't trump science. gasoline vapour ignites. not the liquid. look it up.
you are extremely lucky, but you will ofcause also cling to that as a proof of fact instead of looking at real data. Actual facts are, that battery cars catch fire much LESS than ice does.
The heaters are impressive... In wintertime you'll be in your toasty living room calling the fire department for your high end Chinese luxury vehicle in roaring flames out on the street. (hopefully not in your garage)
I spent some time in battery work. I won't touch full electric vehicles until they're all solid state batteries. Let me explain.
The reason you see explosions in batteries are often because of internal shorting. Almost all of these batteries have liquid electrolytes with solid electrodes. As you cycle a battery like this over and over again, you get something called a solid electrolyte layer on the surface. Eventually, the crystallised electrolyte starts to grow branching needle-like crystals called dendrites, which eventually find their way to each other. If the dendrites originate on the same electrode, that's pretty harmless. But if the dendrites from two different electrodes meet, you short the battery, which at best makes the battery useless, and at worst, well you've seen the explosions.
A lot of very smart people are trying to solve the dendrite problem in liquid batteries, because it is a worthwhile cause. But you can avoid the issue entirely with solid state electrolytes. Because the electrode and electrolyte are in the same phase of matter, you won't get issues of recrystallisation and dendrite-driven shorting. The battery is going to be heavier, and as of now, more expensive, but the longevity, the capacity, the safety, and the efficiency of energy conversion, are all much higher.
I'm happy to answer questions about this, if anyone has any. This is a topic I am deeply passionate about.
My question would be why you chose to talk nonsense because statistically EVs are a lot less likely to catch fire than gassers. Or at least those made by Western standards.
What are we lacking to have fully solid state batteries?
@@GldnClaw physics
@@tellyboy17 First of all, I don't like you telling me that I'm talking nonsense when this is a legitimate problem in the battery industry. Second, the larger your liquid state battery, the more potential nucleation sites you have for dendrites. The greater your charging capacity and discharge rate are, the faster these dendrites may be able to form. With small batteries, your charging capacity and discharge rates are quite low, so the physical size and low power operation zone aren't huge concerns. But as you get bigger, the risk increases. And with something like a car, you should absolutely be concerned.
I understand that this could also be partially a result of my paranoia from working in the field, the same way as a software engineer would about datamining, or a civil engineer would about bridges and buildings. But at the same time, these aren't matters you take lightly
@@me0101001000 ..and yet you will jump in your gas car without giving it a second thought, despite the fact that ~170K of those burn to crisp each year in the US alone.
That is absolutely horrifying! The e-bike caught fire while the owner and another man were in the elevator. Fortunately, they were able to escape in time.
So lucky. I am retired FDNY, and it was common for civilians to try to toss out a smoldering chair or mattress, only to have it light up in the elevator from the air flow as it went down
@@richardmeo2503 I bet that happened more in specific "hoods."
in Singapore previous case, the person died, its either e-scooter board thiny or e-bike iinm
Yeah thanks, we totally missed that part
@@josiahr1375 The wealthy would call "a worker bee" to handle anything like that. Sadly with so many "hoods" in NYC that issue was a common problem. More than once the civilians were found dead in the flaming elevator.
We have Chinese EV's on the road in the UK. They are branded "MG", but that's just a badge now for SAIC. Not heard about fires yet. Perhaps they are a little more careful about the ones they export?
MG.(mans garbage)
@@GAZZA55 You obviously haven't owned one. MY MG ZT sports auto (Made in England) was 22 years old when I grudgingly sold it. Never missed a beat! I hear it's still going strong. I miss it so much, I'm thinking of buying it back! I must admit though, the Chinese MG I swapped it for is just as good. 8 years old and has never let me down.
Thanks for covering this exclusive BYD EV feature. It’s called AFP technology (automatic fire pit tech). If you are camping, this feature turns your EV to an enormous camp fire, free of charge. Only setback is it’s for one time use.
😂😂😂😂
"Burn Your Dream".🫠
And no return… 😢
Hilarious 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😅
The biggest fear I have with an electric vehicle is not being able to get my kids out of their car seat in time if or when it catches fire
More time you get than ice
Don't worry those battery fires are slow starters, there will be plenty of time. When your gas car starts to smoke you had better be quick though.
Indeed. it's fear. Not reality.
A big tank of gas fire = explosion
Battery = slow 4hr fire
Then you probably shouldn’t drive a gas powered car. Gas burns and exploded instantly
@@GreenDriveIndia Under what circumstance? You're driving a Pinto still? A fire around the EGR system? A short on the tail lights wiring? You will have time to react.
With an EV the fire starts under the vehicle, the only thing I can think is comparable is forcing the ICE car to run fuel rich and setting your catalytic converter on fire. Even if you puncture the gasoline tank, you still need an ignition source from somewhere.
Their ev's are so ahead of the game they even got a self destruct feature
Before the internal atomic energy battery explode the car goes up in flame so to avoid a small nucelar explosion like in the terminator movie, in the movie the terminator did remove the battery by himself but customers isnt allowed to change or remove anything from their EVs so the car have to go up in flames and self destruct.
To make sure those pesky westerners can't get their hands on them and infringe on their IP 😂
@@BAUSSCO DNA scanners built in to the cars, if they detect a tourist in the driver seat it start the BBQ ?
keep a couple a large sacks of rice in the trunk, at least you walk away with some fried rice.
They started selling this stuff here in India and my uncle has one.... Hope it doesn't blow up 😢
😂
We pray for your Uncle. 😊
All will be fine.
Just park it reasonably far from the house
If it was happening often, no car insurer would ensure. This is like 0.001%
BYD sells like MILLIONS of vehicles per year.
Fear is the mindkiller
@@harm991 found the brainwashed
This video was easy to watch...no human suffering. It has been 20 years since I lived in China. Nothing has changed except it has gotten worse. When I was there, Chinese people told me that they preferred Japanese products (not their own domestic products). So I learned...'when in Rome,...' Another good and informative video, Winston.
Think you should make a return visit and be surprised. Don't buy western propaganda.
Middle class and above Mainlanders will not buy local "fresh" produce for fear of being poisoned. They will only buy stuff imported from neighboring countries LOL
No suffering indeed... Except the people who are suffering for the loss to their wallets 🤣
6:58 yeah these guys really survived trapped inside an elevator with exploding lithium and smoke
Thanks for doing this video. I made a comment a few videos back that a distant relative who's a car dealer was thinking of selling Geely cars in the UK and deep down I felt this was a big mistake.
The safest bet for selling Geely cars are the ones being made by Proton. It appears that when Proton makes them from complete knockdown kits, it is actualy of superior quality compared to ones that actually come from China.
By the way, Proton is a complete hit in South Africa at the moment since it sells quite affordable crossovers, the X70 and X50. And while they were designed by Geely, they were built in Malaysia
Your 'distant relative' will do just fine. EV fires are extremely rare, this video does not reflect the facts of auto fires.
I’ve saw loads I’ve Teslas on fire. Just saying.
The reason why Black Cab firms was sold to Geely... WAS because.. they wanted those companies to KEEP the managements.. and to TRAIN those chinese people. But you would NOT expect those chinese people, to THEN... kick out the Western teams.. and then reduce their quality components and raw materials... and then cut costs. Cos MANY firms that are often bought from China.. works like that as well. It has been happening since 1990s !!! Nothing has changed ! Why? Cos that is basically how they operated.. even though SOME firms.. were allowed to actually keep those Western managements.. a lot of them.. were basically squeezed out. And then they will always support or try and educate a chinese management guy, WITHOUT actual physical experiences.. as their managment... This is how it often goes... Rather than to promote the individuals from bottom up.. or like GE to rotate them, so every single employees KNEW the exact step for ALL processes.. They didn't do it like that at all.... The arrogance is too much. And there is no trust between their departments as well. Don't go there is what I say.
@@TheOz91 : It is actually really really sad to read that actually... For Protons to be "higher" quality than Geely. I think Geely owned some of the UK car companies actually. They were sold... Don't tell me that they don't even run their factories properly.... and never HONESTLY call out the mistakes.. don't tell me that they reverted back to some kind of senior-subordinate BS play.... so then they hide their mistakes to cover their asses... Cos that is the least that you would need.. to make such important components...
That feature to be able to increase the temperature during winter via spontaneous combustion is something I have always looked for in a car
And if the car makes it to the summer, it had the feature of cooling from fire fighter spraying water on it.
These videos just keep getting better. Thanks so much for a look into the real china, beyond the false propaganda reels.
Typically you don't put lithium battery fires out, they burn under water. So you limit spread and wait for the fire to burn out.
Yeah that's all I was thinking when I saw them going at it with the fire extinguishers
Or you can use dry ice dust and/or graphite powder. Blasting it with compressed CO2 also works quite well.
That's why extinguinshers release compressed CO2, and not water. Dipsh..t
@@texanplayer7651 XDDD
@@texanplayer7651 “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
Those cars are making up for all the gas cars that they are replacing in pollution when they catch fire.
Me: **slaps the roof of the car**
The car: **combust into flames**
Makes one wonder how their naval vessels will perform.
You certainly wouldn't get me in a Chinese submarine!
In China, in terms of burning accidents and EV ownership, Tesla burning chance is higher than BYD, why not talk about Tesla? this is a bs video
They're trash. Their ship making industry was such garbage that they had to resort to using them for military ships.
BYD are now selling cars in the UK.
Awesome show. This reminds me of a footage I once saw. It was in a EV dealership where a supposedly authorized Tesla salesman tells his customers in Chinese NOT to buy the Tesla because it is very "unreliable" and expensive. I am wondering now if his customer did purchase the Chinese brand he promoted instead.
That's a common tactic isn't it? Chinese people working for foreign companies actually trying to sabotage the company they work for and trying to help out other Chinese companies
Thats ok, Mother Nature will retaliate. 😂😂
Los EV de Tesla tiene mayor incidencias de incendios y problemas técnicos en su fabricación y Software.
We had an eBike store within a parking garage in Hannover going up in flames. You can guess the damages for yourselfs...
did you send money to ukraine too?
The fire brigade in Germany stores electric cars that have caught fire in a water-filled container for two days after they have been extinguished with foam. However, these are mainly vehicles from Tesla, which are most widespread in Germany.
I was actually going to write that. I saw a video of a American fire chief saying they've had electric cars reignite out of nowhere days after being extinguished. That only submersion in water or complete battery depletion stops this from happening. He also said that electrical vehicles require exponentially more resources to deal as they not only pose a fire risk but an electrocution risk as well.
Need some kind of fire blanket just to let it burn out safely
Same for Austrian Fire-fighters, they have made some containers to haul the EV's into and submerge them for a month before giving them over to recycle. It hadn't been many that where burning, I only know of 2 Teslas that caught fire after crashes.
A bus in my hometown caught fire. Luckily the driver spotted it straight away and got out immediately, it was ablaze within 30 seconds. Very luckily he had no passengers on as he was finishing his shift. Nothing in even the local press!
exactly, but you won't hear the ignoramus running this channel about that.
I'm so glad EVs are not adding to atmospheric Pollution!
The scary thing about these type of battery fires is that they create their own oxygen. That's why it's so incredibly hard to stop them burning. You can't choke it out at all, and they get so incredibly hot. I was assuming they'd mostly catch fire when charging, because I assumed they wouldn't stop charging properly when full. But then seeing one that must've been turned off to be on a ramp on a truck? How did it even catch on fire?
I used to repair phones, and always had to be careful with batteries for the same reason, but that was mostly puncturing them. How a turned off car lights itself on fire is so bizarre to me.
The problem with lithium ion batteries overall is the fact that lithium as an element is incredibly reactive to water, including moisture in the air. That is why they catch fire when punctured and dousing it with water literally accelerates the problem. Combine that with poorly made Chinese batteries that may leak or fracture during use (they can get toasty during heavy use, hot metal expands). Additional factors could include the battery management systems (BMS) failing leading to overcharging or high current discharging. I'm not sure what leads to parked cars to combust when they're not plugged in to charge. Could be something as ridiculous as some sitting water got shifted backwards and shorted some cables maybe.
Heat combination must have happened from car battery & air enviroment. Electricity is very sensitive thing. Men may OVER- LOOK ANY THING W/ BIG BATTERY EVERYTHING HOOKED ON IT. HOW MUCH GENIUS DO YOU THINK MEN ARE?? MEN BUILT NUCLEAR BOMBS TO DESTROY NOT ONLY ENEMY BUT THEMSELVES TOO & EVERYTHING ELSE. GOD HIMSELF -HAS ENOUGH OF HUMANS, IT"S JUST A MATTER OF TIME WHEN HUMAN GENERATION WILL COME TO END. EVEN ANGELS ARE PERFECTLY CREATED, YET ONE THEM BETRAYED GOD.
NOTHING IS PERFECTLY CREATED TO BE DONE FOR GOD HAS HIS OWN AGENDA TO ACCOMPLISH CAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE. HE IS GOD & WE ARE JUST HUMAN.
I’ve had first hand experience with li-po batteries in the rc hobby industry and these battery packs are literally incendiary bombs
Aren't LiFePO a lot safer?
@@DataGeek903 Yes, but right now sparesly utilized in the cars cause of lower energy density. I think the cheaper Tesla models can use them and BYD lamellar batteries are Lifepo. I am not sure though. But if you buy a portable powerbank (you know the AC ones) most reputable brands are tranistioning to Lifepo, also because you can do a lot more cycles before having to recycle the battery
Yeah I've had a lipo battery basically turn into red sulfer/napalm on my desk from an RC car.....exiting but not in a good way.
Aren't they also extremely toxic?
@@carlpanzram7081 Worse than they will ever let you know.
little addition, these aren't electrical fires, these are metal fires that start out as a shortcircuit in the components. in fact Metal fires are even more dangerous than electrical fires
“Metal fires” (at room temperature purified lithium, potassium, and sodium are metallic) and *damn near impossible* to extinguish-like trying to stop a thermite reaction
@@drcovell exactly, and alot of phosphor munitions are outlawed because of their hazardous nature, and unpredictable outcomes when used. not to mention the amount of aluminium mold explosions and deaths
@@drcovell even normal metals like aluminium can strip the oxygen from water if hot enough, releasing a huge amount of energy and hydrogen
Gotta love all those enviromentally friendly EV's that release tons of chemicals and smoke when they burn to a fiery crisp
BYD is growing large in Brazil, my country. The things here are going to be messy here, because they are selling much cheaper EV's than the competition. We are used to bad quality cars from other brands, but they don't explode 😰
Sorry to hear that your country wants to jump into bed with the likes of Russia and China. I will not buy anything made in China anymore.
It doesn't matter diego, a sicario will kill you anyway 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@daviddavidsonn3578 what is a sicario? 🤣
@@diegosalgo a gangmember of a cartel
Byd going strong
8:50 There's a correction that needs to be made to the statement that "this needs a huge amount of water to put out". Water does not put out lithium fires. On the contrary, it makes them worse. You need to have either a foam extinguisher or an ABC dry chemical extinguisher.
But Water cools the howl battery down. And that’s the main reason to do so. Of course water doesn’t prevent that the battery catches fire again because it produce its own oxigen.
But if the howl battery is cooled down < 100 C the process of thermal runaway can be stopped.
@@visionmodernclassics3062 Good luck cooling down a battery that's inside a car by spraying water on the outside.
I’m starting to see these around Australia and this is a concern, thanks for your due diligence much appreciated Australia needs to see this.
None of it is true.
exactly. Its just a fear mongering for clics.
Gotta remember that quality control for export markets is gonna be much higher than for the local market, because if there are serious issues like this in the foreign market, that's a severe loss of face to the Chinese (which is why they'll find someone else, preferably a foreigner, to blame). Also gotta point out that many of these cars shown caught fire whilst being charged, so it's also possible the chargers are at fault, but then I'd hope that the EV cuts off the charging before the car catches fire.
We're also seeing BYD EVs in NZ, yet so far, there's been no reports of them fire and I haven't see stories from UK with them having these problems, so it might be a more China-centric issue. Not that I'd ever buy a Chinese car and I'm not buying an EV with current battery tech any time soon.
@@Spacerkari get out of here, Chinese shill
@@richardbaron7106BYD有电池穿刺实验，我觉得还不错的车企，现在特斯拉也用BYD的配件，每年卖几百万辆有起火的也算正常，我们油车都有着火的，不用过分放大这个缺点，还是有很大进步的空间的，继续努力。
It will be informative to know the statistics of EV fires for different brand EVs
According to Google 28 Teslas in 10 years, that’s because their tech is well advanced
Statistics will show the facts. Some videos or headlines only show it happens to "some". Actually in the West, ICE cars catch fire 25 times more often than EVs. But a big fire in a EV has more energy and is more difficult to stop. Some of the new tech batteries are less prone to fires than li-ion. I have no idea how this is in China and we know they would hide the facts.
The reason why Tesla only trust LFP cells in china, harder to burst into flames.
Have talked to several firemen who want nothing to do with EVs!!!
The funniest part of this video is that it has an ad for BYD. 😅
Smoke, mirrors and...fire
Great video and I would agree that there are major quality control issues. I own a Volvo XC40 Recharge and since Volvo is partly owned Geely, most of the parts came from China. Even though the final assembly point we in Belgium, the quality of the components are horrible. Within a year of owning it, the car needed the LTE modem, AC compressor/condensor, onboard computer, and the entire battery pack had to be replaced due to questionable defects. Needless to say, it's the last time I'm buying a Volvo.
Volvo are complete crap. Bought a brand new 2022 model and sold it in 6 months. My wife’s XC90 is a nice looking car but that will be going soon too. As soon as MX arrives in UK
@@thomasswainson2047沃尔沃在中国都卖不掉并且打半折销售，甚至更多，沃尔沃S90最低配车型真实购买价大约30000欧元，在中国都卖的很难欧洲人为啥还买，中国喜欢梅赛德斯，当然也喜欢BYD，虽然技术还不成熟，这俩车我都有，二十万公里都还挺稳定。
The last Volvo was the V8 Yamaha… and older of course. Very sad for a great company.
You must be easily brainwashed by the msm and slick advertising ..serves you right...More money than brains.
BYD plans to be a major player in Australia but there is already reports of rust forming near joints, spot welds etc. One judge even went as far to say LDV a competing Chinese brand is of poor quality (i'm paraphrasing) in a civil court case against a disgruntled owner who tried getting a refund for LDV rust issues.
Do you know how many court cases Ford and GM and others have had over the years. Make Chinese manufacturers problems look small.
Especially in those coastal areas, the air just smells of salt that can cause major rust. Besides the rust, these cars have to withstand those really hot summers. Which I doubt it will.
Guess where the most popular EV in Australia comes from (it's not its home country USA)?
@@rhyswong8976 right on, aus conditions are harsh. Somewhere like Brisbane with very hot weather with very high humidity / moisture, next to ocean with salt in the air, you need to be careful what car you buy. Same with many parts of north america. I might even argue US weather is more extreme since they have both the very hot weather, and very cold weather, with salted roads in the cold areas which rust cars underneath.
It would be interesting to see a breakdown of which ones are air-cooled and which, if any, are using liquid cooling. (air-cooled EV batteries are far less capable of regulating temperature).
Also what types of batteries they use. LFP for example are far less likely to catch on fire. And obviously get some actual statistic on how many cars actually cought h on fire. With millions of cars sold, a few catching on fire isn't that big of a deal, statistically speaking.
@@hojnikb There are almost a thousand nuclear reactors now in operation, some are bound to explode, who cares really, i mean it is kind of expected around those numbers, fffffine. FFffffine.
But they are all driving in cities or are parked. The batteries should not be stressed and should not be too hot. This is just china cuting corners like idiots. As always.
EV:s are dangerous, thats it.
Some chinese engineer is reading this, "cooling?"
And this is why my HOA has banned EV's and Hybrids from all HOA controlled properties - no exception.
The elevator incident is horrifying. Hopefully the occupants were quick-thinking and pressed all upcoming floor buttons to get out quickly.
You can see the door open and them get out at the end of the clip, luckily
@@filiphartwich I bet they got evicted
A later comment says that this was a fatal fire, one of those two men died
We always thought that petrol cars were dangerous, but EV cars seem to have taken flammability to a new height.
Petrol cars are indeed more dangerous then EV's.
The only time where a EV is more dangerous is if the company that produces or designs them cuts corners, and also pays officials to look away.
@@germanmosca So Tesla, probably the best manufacturer of EV's has been cutting corners? Or do you think all the pictures of burning Tesla's are fake?
@@germanmosca EV's are not safer, they just haven't filtered down to the $500 market being worked on by back street 'mechanics' rigged to provide better acceleration and faster charging times they were never designed for.
@germanmosca lol. Gas cars don't try to kill you. It's usually poor maintenance and operation which result in gas fires. Ev catch fire for no reason and can't be extinguished
@FinbarrOSleibhin The reason is they are made from very volatile materials intentionally stored in a very high energy state. They can and do spontaneously combust, whereas a bucket of gasoline will never do so.
Spontaneous combustion of lithium batteries is a well documented event because it occurs so frequently. One can put "Spontaneous combustion of lithium batteries" into google and educate themselves with multiple sources if they so desire, or they can bury their head in the sand. Maybe take the batteries with you if you do, so they don't burn the rest of us down, thanks.
I wonder if this was why Elon was so confident about himself when someone asked if he was afraid China would steal the technology used in his cars and manufacture their own.
Teslas have caught fire too.
@@hycoperosity5843 At much lower rates.
@@StevenSimard that's just because quality control is better, the potential is still there, when more are on the road it will be a real issue amongst many EV fanboys refuse to acknowledge
@@finish_my_projects it won't be an issue. It's not just quality control, but clever design.
This makes me want nuclear power vehicles.
When I was 1st time in China, the (Chinese!) hotel I stayed in had two things (which disappeared on my subsequent visits): A Chinese channel with English subtitles and a newspaper in English, both apparently poorly censored. The paper was supposed to be translation of a local official paper, and that was definitely true of the first page with daily obligatory article about inevitability of China regaining control over Taiwan.
However the more into it, the more interesting things were to be found, one day on the last page I found a note about a machine gun battle on the highway over a transport of stolen fuel between the Navy (which "requisitioned" it from smugglers) and the Army, apparently the Navy did not extend a proper bribe. I guess English-speaking Chinese were scarce at those times to properly fill the censor ranks ...
The crux is that the corruption was rampant then and there and it is most likely as rampant as it was today, although the forms may have changed and the censorship got much more effective.
However one cannot censor physics ... substandard batteries will catch fire ...
physics can also be censored, at least by serpentza. He never made videos about the fire catched by Tesla EVs, which is much often than chinese EVs.
@@xucgo, they're not more dangerous than BYD EVs. But I'm not defending tesla, they're a safety nightmare in comparison to american, european, and japanese EVs, which are an order of magnitude safer. Those are just factually reported numbers, the number of incidents.i would never buy a tesla
@@xucggo home, time to roast that dog.
What does this have to do with the subject of this video?
@@AmericanPatriot-1776 That there are things happening in China quite frequently and more bizarre than average Western bloke thinks, that China is mostly about making some $$$ like everybody else and eventually they will be normal country like everybody else, peace thru trade, we really cannot live without them and all that NONSENSE, because they are NOT normal.
As a fire fighter, let me tell you something, if that battery in an electric car catches fire, you CAN’T put those fires out, they will burn for days, and even if the fire is put out, the battery will still be burning and will spontaneously combust at any moment, for example, there was one battery, the fire was put out and it was buried 36 feet underground and left there, 6 months later we dug it up and it immediately caught fire, and there is no special chemical or technique to stop it, that battery is now an active threat for a decade at least, when we’re dumping all that water on it, we’re not trying to put it out, we’re trying to stop it from melting the fucking road and/or exploding.
It's great to see someone pointing out the issues with these Ev's. Thanks for all the effort to put this together.
May I also point out the fact that 160'000 ICE cars also catch fire in the US each year? Purely in the interests of balanced debate you understand.........
@@Brian-om2hh lol difference being gas cars might catch fire if you are using them hard or on a track, EVs will catch fire parked in your garage overnight lol.
@@uraniumcranium2613 Not at all, they catch fire all the time for the simplest of reasons. I had a car catch fire sitting at a red light after a tune-up because someone forgot to put something on tight enough. Static electricity while fueling burns about a 100 cars a year, more than all ev charging fires. In fact that's almost as many EV's that caught fire for all reasons in 2021. If you include hybrids gasoline cars catch fire almost 100 times more often then EV's per unit of measurement. The EV battery fire thing is not really an issue at all by comparison.
@@Ryan-ff2db nice strawman but there are also X timesmore conventions cars so your numbers are just made of thin air anyway
I finally saw a real “ Chinese Fire Drill”!
MG is rapidly earning a terrible air bag reputation as well
I'dtoo crash then🙄
MG are now owned by SAIC , another state-owned Chinese company. That probably explains why the air-bags aswell. Plus nearly all their models now are rebadged BYDs
Having Doug DeMuro doing the intro talking about how we are missing out on all the quirks and feartures as it shows the cars going up in flames was absolutely brilliant!
I ONLY look for cars that catch fite and thr wheels come off easily- Thank You BYD 😂
"We´re missing out on some amazing quirks and features!"
I agree. The latest model comes with several amazing features including:
Being burned alive
Being blown to pieces
Be electrified
Buy now!
And there's the classic "Brakes failing and crashing into a brick wall!"
Hey, free heated seats 🤷♂️
Not only is there a massive fire hazard but the electrolyte thermal runaway fumes could also be super toxic especially if there's fluoro chemistry
There are always shortcuts in safety or procedure- on my very first night in China, in Changsha, I fell into a hole that had not been fenced off. Luckily it was only about 3 ft deep, for planting trees, but had it been 10-20 ft, there's no more likelihood at that time- on a barely lit road outside a hotel near the airport but quite some way from the city centre- that I would have seen it.
..bro that was dangerous
Even falling 3 feet can be life threatening.
I suggested to my apartment manager (in writing) they consider banning the charging of scooters and bikes within 50 feet of buildings due to battery fires .
Some time ago, the United States applied compensation to VW.
I think it's a good time to demand compensation from Chinese brands
OMG! Here (in a central region of NL) we have over 250 BYD electric busses for public transport!
They had a lot of failures and a lot of complaints from bus drivers and angry passengers during the first two years.
Now most (but not all) of the problems seem to be solved.
So far, they had no fires….
Pretty sad. Plenty of other reliable brands to choose from yet they took the cheap route of Chinese rubbish.
Nope. Just search: Chinese electric bus fire
@@nordic5490 I mean, no fires here, in NL...
Soooo sit near the door
@@nordic5490 🥱
I met a import agent over exporting something recently to a friend is Aussie land. (starting a business) when we spoke I inquired about Chinese imported vehicles. She was a former Chinese resident and immediately told me "I wouldn't bother because they have so many problems and it's so dangerous"
I started doing more research. No airbag deployment, engine issues, valve issues, timing belts snapping easily, transmission issues. Oh and fire risk, which alone would get it denied by customs.
Not only are they trashy vehicles, they have worse and worse problems. The American market share over there has gone up in recent years. Especially when they realize that American engineered, Canadian/American/Mexican built vehicles won't die easily. Chevy sees the most success.
A number of buicks and I think the Chevy Trax are made in China and sold in North America. Ford Ecosport... made in india. Lots of people driving them probably have no idea
What are you talking about couch potato? Chevy sales are down in China.
I imagine in China, the people can't sue the car companies like they can in the west.
BYD only just launched in Australia a few months ago, and they already have a reputation for being rust buckets.
Enjoy the fires.
I do not know how it will stand the really hot hot Australian summer.
😂😂
A good friend bought one and she is super happy. I don’t have the heart to tell her. Hopefully the exported ones have a higher standard of build.
Back in our hometown church my pastor would always jokingly say, "God made the heavens and the earth, but everything else is made in China." The context of this joke was because our old projector (that uses acetate screens to project printed images) always broke down because the bulb that we bought (a replacement bulb) was made in China. It usually went kaput after 1-2 months of usage (we only use the thing like on Sundays every week for 5-6 hours), but the one that was made in Japan would last more than a year.
Here in Mumbai, I bought 2 made-in-China LED bulbs for my glass display cabinets. Both bulbs fused within 24 hours. My electrician replaced them with locally manufactured bulbs. Two years on, they are working just fine, no problems whatsoever.
Electric cars have to be perfect. This push for electric vehicles will end when courts start to hold the the producers liable.
The elites are in a quandary. They want to push ev bs but they hate elon and his free speech and he is an ev advocate
What's happening now is ev's are starting to become uninsurable, this is how they will cut off Elon's money while not banning ev's
I always worry when I see the next door neighbours EV in the drive charging - if that goes up then it'll burn down a row of houses! If there are a number of EVs in a row then you'll get a chain reaction which could take a whole street out!
I watched a design review of various modern battery packs and they showed BYD packs only have cooling on 1 side of the cells. They said this should be sufficient but I can see how it created more susceptibility to QC issues.
As far as I can tell, BYD actually have a very good safety record when it comes to EVs. You need to put the fires in context with the number of cars sold, and BYD is by far China's biggest seller of EVs. They sell around 70,000 - 90,000 EVs each MONTH, and yet between 2020 and 2022 there were only 11 reported fires of BYD EVs. Other manufacturers sold far fewer EVs and yet had almost as many fires.
@@rodh1404 A lot of stuff doesn't get reported on in China. We really won't know how big of a problem this is until all the chinese ev's start flooding the world in large enough numbers to get a proper assessment outside of china
@@rodh1404 "Reported" - there's your problem. A senior CCP official once joked to a South Korean diplomat, the only true statistic in China is that 100% of Chinese statistics are fake!
@@rodh1404 That's a fair point. It's easy to focus on incidents without factoring in the massive numbers involved, especially with places like China / India where there is just so many people. Even a rare incident can look like an epidemic when it catches attention.
Well you stilly carry as much if not more energy in petrol as you have around 2 times the range. It joust does not conflagerate so spectacularly it joust burns.
As I understand it EV fires are so hard to put out because the battery packs are sealed specifically to keep out water.
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The small amount of water that gets through the ruptured battery pack shorts out other cells starting the fire anew. There was a Tesla in the US that caught fire and was "put out" only to restart while being towed. Once it got to the junkyard it caught fire again and again and again. It took days for it to finally stay put out.
Something else people ignore is all the toxic heavy metals that are aerosolized when the batteries burn.
Yep fire fighters in suits are still being poison by cobolt
EV's are saving the planet! Shut him up we have a lot invested in this ride.
@@mgntstr Ev are saving nothing ,the recycling of the battery and tyre wear alone , never mind the battery fire Hazzard and the contaiminated water flows in storm drains out to sea ,
The reason they are near impossible to put out is that the battery makes its own oxygen so even if you deprive it of air it will keep burning until all the material is used up.
@@dgurevich1 So the fires keep restarting because of the oxidizer? I can see the compromised cells burning in their entirety but there are multiple accounts of vehicle fires restarting after they were determined to be out.
The trick is that with lithium ion battery packs, you CANNOT put them out with water, full stop. Ever. They create their own oxygen as they burn, and adding water merely gives them more stuff to break down into oxygen.
The other point is that the smoke that comes off is destructively toxic and even when firefighters wear full cover protective gear, the smoke can eat its way in to it.
We chosed the wrong path with Ev, we should go hemp seed oil
Actually, when lithium contacts water, it begins creating hydrogen as well. Even worse than just oxygen
hydrgen is the way to go, toyata say they have already solved it for mass production.@@xy3zprototype
7:08 You can smell the burning lithium from here
The net zeros even want to deploy lithium energy storage systems for wind and PV power storage Imagine one of those catching fire and exploding in a residential area. Mayhem.
The Battery Management Systems (BMS) normally should keep things in check. But if a cell fails and goes into thermal runaway, the rest of the battery is potentially affected.
Yeah we need a new battery technology.
@@Stephen85 There already is, LiFePO instead of NMC. Widely used in grid storage and home storage solutions, onlyEV's need energy dense NMC cells. Stationary storage can be a bit heavier, like LiFePO4
@@Stephen85 you are right, but viable lithium electrochemistry, the spinels, really kicked off in the the early 1980s, and that was over forty years ago. There are many alternatives, but research into them comes and goes. Personally fuel cells are for me, with lithium just used for tools and smartphones
Shouldn’t they be able to make a sensor that detects thermal runaway and at least sets off a loud alarm to warn people around the battery?
@@seanb.6793 sadly this isctechnologically not possible in my opinion. As you know Lithium metal burns in someways like magnesium ribbon does in the school lab.
Obviously batteries must be defect free and 100% reliable in the use case.
I think the Chinese batteries had a quality issue at manufacture. A few years back Samsung had to recall one of their tablets owing to a few defective batteries. Without good materials, quality control
I believe it. 3 of our 5 new electric lift trucks used to move trailers on and off of docks went up in flames from the battery box. Only one was salvageable because it was close enough to a door to grab enough foam extinguisher and it was too big to keep in the cab.
Correction: It wasn't fork lifts it was lift trucks used to move trailers on and off of docks. It was 3 out of 5 new Autocar brand trucks were electric and only one caught fire and burned down to the ground. They've since traded the remaining crappy electric ones back in for Volvo diesel powered Autocar brand trucks that were needed for two shifts. The electric trucks wouldn't make it through one entire 9 hour shift. No more electric rechargeable trucks there now. We have a hard enough time getting our tablets to last an entire shift. Too bad they don't make diesel powered tablets also. Oh well one day I'll be able to retire and put it all behind me.😂
Holy s it! We've had whole public transport bus fleets go up in flames in Germany and France. At this point there is no way I'm setting foot into an EV.
How old were the forklifts? My company switched to full electric forklifts recently.
@@phangirlableit's only an issue if your buying Chinese junk. I'm sure you could buy a Toyota forklift and not have an issue.
@@picturesfromtheworld208 Electric lift trucks are almost perfectly safe as they all use lead acid and lead acid does have fire and explosion risks but they're both less common and almost entirely limited to during the charging phase (they release hydrogen gas as they charge).
I am curious what happened with the OP's trucks actually.
@@jimmydesouza4375it's not forklifts. It's lift trucks or yard jockeys. We call them lift trucks because the fifthwheel lifts the trailers up to move them so we don't have to crank the landing gear up and down. They are all Autocar brand with Volvo diesel engines. Just like a big rig but short and single cab with the door behind the driver. The new ones were EV lithium ion battery powered that plugged in at night. They're all gone now and we are back to all Diesel powered. I refused one of the new ones because I was a career trucker before this job and wouldn't have an EV or an electric truck. Neither does my company anymore. Live and learn I guess.
A battery is like a high pressure container
There is no way to put out an electric fire with water, it is like putting gas on a fire
An electric fire will stay on until the battery is empty
Amazing that nine of this has ever been brought to the public eye in the U.K. Thank you so much for your video.
I think just one of these EV's catching fire puts out a lot more pollution than a fleet of diesel cars!
Overall, EVs are about 0.3 percent likely to ignite, versus a 1.05 percent likelihood for gas cars, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics and the National Transportation Safety Board compiled by Auto Insurance EZ last year. “It's not like electric vehicles are more dangerous,” said Klock.
@@freshpack8928 - gas cars catch fire due to very poor maintenance, next to zero annual safety inspections, peeps who work on their cars without understanding safety and poorly secured batteries. There's less maintenance needed with EVs and most owners are unlikely to actively work on the cars and void the warranty, so they will always have a lower overall percentage to ignition than ICE cars. It's also seriously much easier to put out a fire in an ICE car than an EV and takes considerably less water to do so.
We're talking apples and oranges here, and I bet the stats are presented to favor EVs by the insurance company.
@@richardbaron7106 why does everyone bring up how much harder the fires are to put out? Like in the grand scope of water why is it concerning that it takes more water? As more EVs come to market fire departments will come up with new ways to battle EV fires. It takes more water to put out an ICE vehicle than it does a Conestoga wagon too.
@@freshpack8928 - because not only does an EV fire use a huge amount of water, but it ties up multiple fire appliances and crew, whereas one fire truck and crew can put out an ICE fire or horse-drawn wagon if you prefer. That's a lot of resources tied up. As I've commented elsewhere, we're not seeing the same EV fires from Chinese vehicles in Western markets, so there's an element of fear-mongering in this video.
Don't get me wrong - I like EVs, esp in cities where they're much, much cleaner than ICE vehicles, but the next generation of battery tech can't come soon enough in terms of runaway fire safety. That tech isn't too far away either.
All these fires seem to start under the front passenger seats. Just like the Luton car park fire.
13:28 "Thought we were done with BYD.... WRONG!" 😂
I love Winstons videos.
Clear, to the point and no BS. 💯 👍🏻
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The amount of this junk that is selling in Australia now is a disgrace. What's worse is that the joke media out here recommend them.
You have a good point. The larger car review channels get money for their reviews and I'm sure they get docked when/if they report any of their issues. I know that tesla and other evs do not get reported when they catch fire and I feel that reporting should have to cover battery status and reason for fire. Scary stuff
Tesla does not advertise. If a Tesla coughs it is on the News. Car gas fires happen more often never reported.
My first ad was a Tesla ad 😂
Would be nice to see some actual stats on the percentage that catch on fire in the domestic Cinese market vs those exported to Western markets.
...then compare that with the percentage of fossil fuelled vehicles that catch fire.
@@phiiz3r Petroleum is not a "fossil fuel" , it's abiotic.
@@phiiz3r I have actually never heard of a fossil fuelled car just standing there and catching on fire. Sure, it can happen at the gas station but that usually requires some idiot throwing a cigarette into spilled gas or while driving it's more like smoke under the hood because no more water in the cooler. But those EVs just seem to spontaneously combust.
@@nosferatut9084 it's from ancient pressurised Carbon. it's both fossils and fuels
@@G.A.C_Preserve It's not fossil. It's produced in the Earth's mantle from immense pressure and eventually will find its way to the surface through the crust. It's regularly mined at depths double what any fossilised remains have ever been proven and won't run out for an awfully long long long time. The CO2 produced by using hydrocarbons for energy production is taken up by plants for food via photosynthesis. The more CO2 ,the more vegetation. CO2 is essential to life on the planet.
Wow, thanks for the really important coverage of the dangers of Chinese electric cars. Not only are they catching fire, but then you also have to worry about the dangers of PFAS in fire fighting foam contaminating ground water and killing people slowly. What a mess. Think I'll stick with my Tesla.
Indian PM said NO to BYD factory in India. Here is the reason.
Better go poo on railway tracks 😂
Very wise
Any yet Indian OEMs resort to using BYD batteries for its EVs. What’s the point? India is no different.
@@jayxj7785 How many Tata or Mahindra cars have you seen/heard of burning up?
Control and safety features need to be built in, such as battery temperature monitoring and charge current control.
@@Joe90-e4r my comment is solely based on the recent news that Mahindra will be using BYD’s tech and batteries for its upcoming EVS. Why not continue with LG Chem like on the XUV400 or SK? And I agree with your safety and control features though.
I've got a genuine question, here in Costa Rica I see BYD Electric cars everywhere, there's a lot of them on the streets and I've never heard anything about any of these issues, do you think it's because their exports have better quality control?
Don’t be surprised, if you check all his videos uploaded, you will understand, he hate China, loll
Maybe this is a one in a thousand problem and there's just more of them in China. I doubt they'd send higher quality ones overseas, I don't think the Chinese even understand why quality is important.
because the creator makes alot of anti china videos.
Most of their batteries have been replaced with ones built in Mexico. Shipping regulations for EV batteries are so strict that shipping them overseas is insanely expensive so most EV car companies ship the vehicle then source the batteries on site.
@@GhostOfSnuffles Ridicules, EV batteries were built as part of the car structure. Replacement is incredibly difficult. Besides, Mexico do have mass produced EV batteries.
Must be tough to copy those Panasonic Batteries..🐒