How long do the briquettes take to dry out before you can use them? Is it the same length of time as green wood drying out? Or quicker? And do they retain their shape integrity if you dry them in a kiln? Thanks, nice video!
They actually generally hold their shape better in a kiln. As far as drying that varies based on climate moisture etc. On a hot summer day this size briquette if flipped can be dried in a day or two obviously you won't have the same effect in a garage that's super moist in the winter. But yes they dry way faster than greenwood
Keep things simple. Put down a 4 inch layer of sawdust, chainsaw cuttings, or ground up wood chips and build your fire on top . One year I had 7 -30 gallon cans of ground up dried tree chips, It all went thru the woodstove and burned just fine.
No flue build up far less than wood as has no bark. As for drying it depends on weather in full sun summer flipping them over a few days in a damp garage in middle of winter a few weeks.
curious.... do paper briquettes need to burn as hot as wood .... when it comes to Creosote creation in flu.. also for secondary burn. As in, am wondering if there is way less ignitable gas in the smoke compared to wood burning, that can even be burned? If not then the flu temps are not as important except for enough draft creation to push carbon monoxide out the flue, maintain the fire and enough heat production to add an value in warmth?
Yes you're correct and as far as drafting I have a reburner stove so it's a sealed system but if you had a standard older style stove draft would be very important
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 it's a Drolet and does have a so so reburner as you call it. Im trying compressed paper in the stove via weights instead of all the mess with shred, wet ,compress, dry etc.. so far wont go above about 80 f and keeps going out.. with a draft fan sucking air thru. AKA- total fail thus far.
That is a very good way long-term to think about it. We did not measure such because we have a grid tie system so our numbers would be skewed . That said a hand press puts out just fine The only reason we use anything else is to get them squeezed out as much as possible that way they dry faster The reality you could make a water barrel worth of material for about 3 cents worth of electric and make a lot of briquettes
Thanks for this. Lots of interesting ideas only tangentially related to the topic were of interest to me in this video. No home, so no stove, see. :P But just out of curiosity, I'd love to see a closed-flue test in a one-entrance, lightly positively pressurized environment, in order to then measure the released gases. I'm *not* suggesting you mess up your house, though! It would need to be in a safe test environment.
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 Well, my interest being to know the emissions, if one were testing emissions, one would hopefully use whatever kind of stove is required. 😋 That's not to imply that I think it is your responsibility to test this for me. I'm just so curious about the idea of very clean, abundant fuel for heating, cooking, forging, kiln-ing (if it wasn't a word, it is now!), etc
Everyone ask this. Depends on the temperature outside depends on if it's in the sun depends on if you're flipping them. I would say if you made them in the day of sun in the summer and flip them a day or two they would be dry. In a garage that's really damp in the winter maybe a week or two
A week in my kiln but dry times vary based on temp sunlight what briquettes are made of. But you will quickly know when they are 100% dry because they will be so light it will be crazy
That is the binder there is talk that if you let it soak long enough in water that it will slightly bind if it's more like chips when you compress it. But the biggest thing is the paper in the water becomes almost like a glue. I also have seen others use just sawdust and add flour kind of like paper mache. I have not had any luck without adding some kind of paper or cardboard
Briquettes are like charcoal that burns slowly outside in. They don't burn with giant flames. Basically they turn into giant coals instantly and then just sit there and burn off the outside drop the ash burn off the outside drop the ash until they're gone
Probably the most asked question.... It depends are you trying to dry them in a damp garage in the middle of winter or out in the sun in the middle of summer. I've had it in the beating sun flipping it a few times a day I usually takes about 48 hours but that's on a 90° day
Well we have people watched from all over the world. For example in India firewood is almost impossible to get so they do things like these and charcoal to heat their houses and cook over. There's many third world countries that way. Or a couple say that on a fixed income that is too old to go out and cut and split firewood this would be a good option. But really for us it is a fun hobby.
i have the same stove. do you have a fresh air tube into back of stove?
Yes
How long do the briquettes take to dry out before you can use them? Is it the same length of time as green wood drying out? Or quicker? And do they retain their shape integrity if you dry them in a kiln? Thanks, nice video!
They actually generally hold their shape better in a kiln.
As far as drying that varies based on climate moisture etc.
On a hot summer day this size briquette if flipped can be dried in a day or two obviously you won't have the same effect in a garage that's super moist in the winter. But yes they dry way faster than greenwood
Keep things simple. Put down a 4 inch layer of sawdust, chainsaw cuttings, or ground up wood chips and build your fire on top . One year I had 7 -30 gallon cans of ground up dried tree chips, It all went thru the woodstove and burned just fine.
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Didn't the leaves, etc make a lot of smoke in the wood stove? Thanks
Thanks for showing us how they burn. How long do they take to dry? Any flue build up?
No flue build up far less than wood as has no bark. As for drying it depends on weather in full sun summer flipping them over a few days in a damp garage in middle of winter a few weeks.
curious.... do paper briquettes need to burn as hot as wood .... when it comes to Creosote creation in flu.. also for secondary burn. As in, am wondering if there is way less ignitable gas in the smoke compared to wood burning, that can even be burned? If not then the flu temps are not as important except for enough draft creation to push carbon monoxide out the flue, maintain the fire and enough heat production to add an value in warmth?
Yes you're correct and as far as drafting I have a reburner stove so it's a sealed system but if you had a standard older style stove draft would be very important
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 it's a Drolet and does have a so so reburner as you call it. Im trying compressed paper in the stove via weights instead of all the mess with shred, wet ,compress, dry etc.. so far wont go above about 80 f and keeps going out.. with a draft fan sucking air thru. AKA- total fail thus far.
Maybe it's too wet?@@coachgeo
@@Brad-sh2wn did not use traditional. No water/liquids involved. Was holding compressed via weights while in stove also
@@coachgeo I don't know maybe not enough water
Ignoring the cost of making the press, which would be negliable over time, how does the electricity input relate to BTUs produced?
That is a very good way long-term to think about it. We did not measure such because we have a grid tie system so our numbers would be skewed .
That said a hand press puts out just fine The only reason we use anything else is to get them squeezed out as much as possible that way they dry faster
The reality you could make a water barrel worth of material for about 3 cents worth of electric and make a lot of briquettes
Thanks for this. Lots of interesting ideas only tangentially related to the topic were of interest to me in this video. No home, so no stove, see. :P
But just out of curiosity, I'd love to see a closed-flue test in a one-entrance, lightly positively pressurized environment, in order to then measure the released gases. I'm *not* suggesting you mess up your house, though! It would need to be in a safe test environment.
That would not work with this stove as it is one of the new reburner so it reburns gases before exit which would show results
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 Well, my interest being to know the emissions, if one were testing emissions, one would hopefully use whatever kind of stove is required. 😋 That's not to imply that I think it is your responsibility to test this for me. I'm just so curious about the idea of very clean, abundant fuel for heating, cooking, forging, kiln-ing (if it wasn't a word, it is now!), etc
Why wouldn’t you mix it in the round bucket
Surprisingly it really doesn't matter. I suppose there is less corners for it to get stuck in in the round ones but square ones work fine too. 😃
Id be curious to know if they'd last overnight if the stove was turned down all the way leaving some hot coals in the morning for an easy start
Check out our giant briquette video that one I think you could do that way
can you use sawdust , paper and coffee grounds together .
Yes you can we are currently working on experimenting with compost even
@@thefrugalhomestead7873compost works great
How long do they have to dry to use them
Everyone ask this. Depends on the temperature outside depends on if it's in the sun depends on if you're flipping them. I would say if you made them in the day of sun in the summer and flip them a day or two they would be dry.
In a garage that's really damp in the winter maybe a week or two
How long did you cure these before you ran your test?
A week in my kiln but dry times vary based on temp sunlight what briquettes are made of. But you will quickly know when they are 100% dry because they will be so light it will be crazy
@@thefrugalhomestead7873ok thanks for the reply
im here in the tropics and coco lumber saw dust is abundant.. i wonder if its good for this purpose?
I would think so I don't know the wood that well but I'm betting it would work for a lot of things
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 i will try it and will let you know how it went
Is it necessary to add the paper and cardboard? Can you do just straight sawdust?
That is the binder there is talk that if you let it soak long enough in water that it will slightly bind if it's more like chips when you compress it. But the biggest thing is the paper in the water becomes almost like a glue. I also have seen others use just sawdust and add flour kind of like paper mache. I have not had any luck without adding some kind of paper or cardboard
Just to add to this, I've read that potato starch is a good binder.
@DanielOlivierArgyle that actually probably would work
Thank you for both of your replies!!
@@DanielOlivierArgyle but if it smelled like a baked potato, that could be a bad thing and make ya hungry.
New sub. Is that is pretty cool how you Make them. Have a good day , my friend , they save Have a good day, my friend stay safe.
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What was burning to begin woth didnt see the briquettes burn much at all
Briquettes are like charcoal that burns slowly outside in. They don't burn with giant flames. Basically they turn into giant coals instantly and then just sit there and burn off the outside drop the ash burn off the outside drop the ash until they're gone
how long does it take to dry the briquette?
Probably the most asked question.... It depends are you trying to dry them in a damp garage in the middle of winter or out in the sun in the middle of summer.
I've had it in the beating sun flipping it a few times a day I usually takes about 48 hours but that's on a 90° day
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 thanks.. appreciate the reply
Add teaspoon TSP makes water soft and it break real fine
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What is TSP?
@ trisodium phosphate it is a water softener. In Japan they use it as a way for the fibers to relax and slide apart. Same as your fabric softener
Is really forth all the trouble
Well we have people watched from all over the world. For example in India firewood is almost impossible to get so they do things like these and charcoal to heat their houses and cook over. There's many third world countries that way. Or a couple say that on a fixed income that is too old to go out and cut and split firewood this would be a good option. But really for us it is a fun hobby.
Add cup coal dust to that
Actually they make these out of nothing but water and biochar over in India. It's a big deal over there
@@thefrugalhomestead7873 in Thailand too
Teachers I won't to try one day
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