A chairman of a society thats not over 60?! Pinch me! lol. Great work all and fantastic to see the T3 getting some love. Look forward to it steaming in the near future.
Last time I saw her was a few years back, looking very forlorn at Corfe Castle. It's so good to know she will soon be back in action after all these years.
I do prefer the "Art Noeveau" LSWR logo in favour of the coat of arms. (I'd have tried to save the old paint and patina but I guess that was not practical). Either way, it will be good to see this loco in steam next summer. I live in Poole/Bournemouth and often visit the Swanage railway. I did make a small donation last year. money's a bit tight right now but I'll try and repeat my last donation soon.
That's a nice class but I have one problem in stuck in my home country melaysia there's a working steam train but that's in sabah and I'm in kualur Lumpur I wish there was one in west melaysia
Hi Nathan, as a regular visitor and donor to the Swanage Railway, I'm really pleased that this fine L&SWR locomotive is being restored to working order and appreciate all the hard work going into this. However, how have you approached this "minor modification" from a heritage and conservation standards perspective? Lowering the shovel plate may be a minor modification in technical terms, but is a major intervention in terms of an alteration to what is an irreplaceable historical artefact. How does making this change affect its integrity? Does the modification, which is not a restoration, but in fact an act of destruction, reduce the historic value of the artefact? To extend the logic, will you be fitting an enclosed cab to prevent unacceptable exposure to driver and fireman by modern standards? Will you be moving the reversing lever and driver controls to the left side of the footplate to improve the sighting safety for the driver? Both these examples are hypothetical, and more extreme, but the same rigorous questions, and justifications, should be asked and provided, when making such a major intervention to this historic artefact? Does the group have the mandate under the terms of sale from the National Railway Museum to make this change? I ask these questions in good faith. Matt
@@furripupau Thanks. The survival of an historic artefact in its original as-designed form, predicates it as an object of heritage value. I would ask first, what is the historical significance of the tender in the first instance? Perhaps most significantly, this tender is the only surviving Adams tender in existence. Then to ask what is the provenance of the tender, and what alterations (if any) were made to it in its working lifetime. As far as I know, it is an original Adams 3,500 gallon tender, built for the locomotive, with no material alterations apart from perhaps modified lamp irons c1923. It is true that some Adams designed smaller water capacity tenders had slightly lower shovelling plates, for example the 0395 class, but were any Adams 3,500 gallon tenders modified with lowered shovelling plates in their working lifetime? I don't know for sure, but think not, but this might justify a proposed alteration. The fact that it is the only surviving L&SWR Adams tender, would for me militate against it being altered in any significant way, notwithstanding the normal repairs and material replacement necessary in any safety critical component.
@@mattflaneur407 I believe they are doing that so the job of stoking will be better for the person doing it. the last person doing the job was doing it as a living
Strange comment pal. Interesting you mention material repairs for safety are okay, so how about you just think of the safety aspects of shovelling coal from a high plate whilst moving with no doors on an ancient locomotive. Isn’t that a safety aspect ?
Hi, love to hear that you are bringing another engine back in to steam just as an idea if you made a page on your website with drawings for parts that need to be made there is a strong chance that engineers from across the country might make parts for the engine saving time and money.
Hi Adam, fortunately we already have a pretty complete kit of parts basically and the majority of those have already been taken care of! At this point, the time and money is not so much needed for material costs but the painstaking reassembly process.
Had I not seen the name and number i would of thought you had begun work on building a Furness-Railway K2 just by looking at the buffer beam and smoke box and its door
Are you and your group open for suggestions on building new parts of the 563, like… maybe a new GPCS firebox, so there’s a thicker fire bed in it and less ashes are puffed out of the funnel?
A chairman of a society thats not over 60?! Pinch me! lol. Great work all and fantastic to see the T3 getting some love. Look forward to it steaming in the near future.
My great grandfather and his brother were both driver's on the London and South West railway at yeovil Town shed iv still got his note book
Can’t wait to see 563 back in service!
Amazing project... I can't wait to see this gorgeous loco back where she belongs!!!
Holy cow that’s beautiful engine I’m gonna shed a tear
Last time I saw her was a few years back, looking very forlorn at Corfe Castle. It's so good to know she will soon be back in action after all these years.
Great work chaps keeping our incredible heritage alive !!
Good luck Nate, never give up!
I didn't even know this engine still existed - great!
Looking forward to one day going to the Swanage (probably the one steam railway in Southern England I haven't been to yet) and seeing this in steam!
I’m glad another steamy is being restored to revenue service! It will never be the same however, with diesels and electrics on BR rails.
That is such a beautiful piece of engineering! I am looking into getting this for my model railway!
I do prefer the "Art Noeveau" LSWR logo in favour of the coat of arms. (I'd have tried to save the old paint and patina but I guess that was not practical). Either way, it will be good to see this loco in steam next summer. I live in Poole/Bournemouth and often visit the Swanage railway. I did make a small donation last year. money's a bit tight right now but I'll try and repeat my last donation soon.
Finally someone fixing a tender steam engine
At first i fort it was a k12 i would love to see a k12 in person but sadly that will never be
Thanks for the update! Such a lovelly engine, best Of British to you!
PS I did like the DMU too! ( which is more my era age wise!)
Looking forward to seeing this beautiful locomotive back in steam! What a great project- best of luck to you!
Very nice video Nathan! You'd make a great TV presenter, that's if you aren't one already.
I really admire the work groups like you are doing!
Imagine seeing the T3 double heading with the T9 ? 🤔🤔😀
just set up a monthly subscription :)
That's a nice class but I have one problem in stuck in my home country melaysia there's a working steam train but that's in sabah and I'm in kualur Lumpur I wish there was one in west melaysia
Hi Nathan, as a regular visitor and donor to the Swanage Railway, I'm really pleased that this fine L&SWR locomotive is being restored to working order and appreciate all the hard work going into this. However, how have you approached this "minor modification" from a heritage and conservation standards perspective? Lowering the shovel plate may be a minor modification in technical terms, but is a major intervention in terms of an alteration to what is an irreplaceable historical artefact. How does making this change affect its integrity? Does the modification, which is not a restoration, but in fact an act of destruction, reduce the historic value of the artefact? To extend the logic, will you be fitting an enclosed cab to prevent unacceptable exposure to driver and fireman by modern standards? Will you be moving the reversing lever and driver controls to the left side of the footplate to improve the sighting safety for the driver? Both these examples are hypothetical, and more extreme, but the same rigorous questions, and justifications, should be asked and provided, when making such a major intervention to this historic artefact? Does the group have the mandate under the terms of sale from the National Railway Museum to make this change? I ask these questions in good faith. Matt
The first question is probably "what is the historical significance of the height of the shovel plate?".
@@furripupau Thanks. The survival of an historic artefact in its original as-designed form, predicates it as an object of heritage value. I would ask first, what is the historical significance of the tender in the first instance? Perhaps most significantly, this tender is the only surviving Adams tender in existence. Then to ask what is the provenance of the tender, and what alterations (if any) were made to it in its working lifetime. As far as I know, it is an original Adams 3,500 gallon tender, built for the locomotive, with no material alterations apart from perhaps modified lamp irons c1923. It is true that some Adams designed smaller water capacity tenders had slightly lower shovelling plates, for example the 0395 class, but were any Adams 3,500 gallon tenders modified with lowered shovelling plates in their working lifetime? I don't know for sure, but think not, but this might justify a proposed alteration.
The fact that it is the only surviving L&SWR Adams tender, would for me militate against it being altered in any significant way, notwithstanding the normal repairs and material replacement necessary in any safety critical component.
@@mattflaneur407 I believe they are doing that so the job of stoking will be better for the person doing it.
the last person doing the job was doing it as a living
@@eliotreader8220 The reason why was not the question asked, as that is stated in the video. The question related to the heritage asset justification.
Strange comment pal. Interesting you mention material repairs for safety are okay, so how about you just think of the safety aspects of shovelling coal from a high plate whilst moving with no doors on an ancient locomotive. Isn’t that a safety aspect ?
Hi, love to hear that you are bringing another engine back in to steam just as an idea if you made a page on your website with drawings for parts that need to be made there is a strong chance that engineers from across the country might make parts for the engine saving time and money.
Hi Adam, fortunately we already have a pretty complete kit of parts basically and the majority of those have already been taken care of! At this point, the time and money is not so much needed for material costs but the painstaking reassembly process.
Had I not seen the name and number i would of thought you had begun work on building a Furness-Railway K2 just by looking at the buffer beam and smoke box and its door
Are you and your group open for suggestions on building new parts of the 563, like… maybe a new GPCS firebox, so there’s a thicker fire bed in it and less ashes are puffed out of the funnel?
This will be an academic question and anyway the environmentalists are already ensuring that coal will become unavailable
❤ t3
so they basically painted over the oil paint then?
Hi Eliot, that's correct - They essentially painted over the previous livery which revealed itself when the paint started flaking off.