Making Chief Geronimo's Last Bow! A Bow Maker's Journey

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  • @PrimitiveLifeways
    @PrimitiveLifeways  10 місяців тому +8

    I said Ft. Still in the voiceover. I know it’s Ft Sill and that’s what I have in the script. I actually went to Ft. Sill a few months ago too to collect information for this video. Sometimes mistakes happen and the pronouncing of Ft Sill was it. I hope you all enjoyed the video though.

    • @Lawiah0
      @Lawiah0 Місяць тому

      Anyone not from the Christian Race is from the Tree of good and evil.
      Yahweh (YHVH) the creator God, who's name was removed 7,500 times from the Bible.
      ...
      Praise Yahweh, our creator, our savior, and through the flesh as Christ our kinsman redeemer.

  • @Stashley78
    @Stashley78 10 місяців тому +4

    Heckuva bow Geronimo gave to Martin! Thanks for posting your pics from Fort Sill. 📸

  • @Spiderdan-59
    @Spiderdan-59 11 місяців тому +24

    You can't blame him for wanting revenge, I would go out to get it to for the same reason

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  11 місяців тому +4

      Not at all. The wild west was sure something!

  • @timsatchell6713
    @timsatchell6713 15 днів тому +1

    Incredible craftsmen ship. And beautifully narrated.

  • @benaubid2254
    @benaubid2254 11 місяців тому +11

    Awesome, i really appreciate that you are willing to share your knowledge with the rest of us. Been trying to learn more about building these old bows. These skills need to be kept alive

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. Not too many people doing these skills now.

  • @RavenCro-g8t
    @RavenCro-g8t 5 місяців тому +2

    Much respect to Chief Geronimo, the Apache people, and all American Indians. Early colonials would have done much better to treat the original inhabitants of this country with the gratitude and respect they deserved. Our country today would probably be much better off as well. Mitakuye Oyasin... we are all related, and we should live like it. Thank you for this wonderful video... That's a gorgeous bow you've made... I love short bows, and will likely be shopping in your online store in the near future. Philamayaye, ~RavenCro

  • @matthewmaxcy1574
    @matthewmaxcy1574 11 місяців тому +6

    Ohhhh man!! I can't wait!

  • @poochersmontgomery8825
    @poochersmontgomery8825 6 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for taking the time to do this. I am mescalero and lipan, not chiricahua, but this still means alot being Apache. You are part of the reconstruction of our people, and im grateful.

  • @petervanderbeek9518
    @petervanderbeek9518 11 місяців тому +3

    Geronimo is looking at you that bow is fast man. Good job great story

  • @C-24-Brandan
    @C-24-Brandan 11 місяців тому +3

    Super cool build! Awesome back story as well, the history of this countries native people and the tools/weapons they used for hunting, protection, everyday life etc never gets old or boring! Itd be cool to use the native materials of each prominent tribe & then make and compare/contrast their style/type of bows and arrows and see how each bow performs compared to each other! Would be a super cool & interesting/educational video and fun to watch how they all shoot/perform to determine the best( most accurate, most powerful/shoots fastest, most reliable, easiest to build & use effectively the fastest) or something like that! Haven't seen or heard of anyone doing a video like that at all , should definitely consider it! Maybe make it a series with the finale being the shootout & comparison tests.

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  11 місяців тому

      That would be cool, but for one person, a ton of work. I am going to compare this bow to the Hupa one in the future.

    • @C-24-Brandan
      @C-24-Brandan 11 місяців тому

      @@PrimitiveLifeways yeah, could always do a bi weekly or monthly series comparing one to another then doing a final showdown for best two at the end. Lookin forward to that comparison, love learning about and seeing how ancient societies did things and why!

  • @donhippy
    @donhippy 3 місяці тому +2

    My great great grandfather was not a Chief, people just called him Chief.
    But thank for the story and lesson in bow making.

  • @AlanMacdonald-j6n
    @AlanMacdonald-j6n 11 місяців тому +4

    I remember that many years ago whilst in the Parachute Regiment we were told to shout Geronimo when exiting the aircraft.

  • @uncletoad1779
    @uncletoad1779 11 місяців тому +2

    Good work! I am sure Geronimo would be proud.

  • @JayCWhiteCloud
    @JayCWhiteCloud 10 місяців тому +2

    A very nice bow, and thanks for sharing your approach to it in this video...
    As for getting the color correct (and other subtle characteristics) I don't think most modern traditional bow makers can match their work to the vernacular as it seems most insist on starting with dry wood when this was simply not the way it was done for most traditional cultures including those here in North America. Wood historically for the most part from timber frames and furniture within as well as wood utensils and tools (aka a bow) was started with green wood. Wood in general statistically within the historical context of board footage actually harvested and used was "worked green to dry" 70% of the time. Working wood this way has a lot to do with the way a piece of wood oxidizes (colors) and how it performs as well...including how durable it is over time...I base this very conservative percentage estimation on 40-plus years of only traditional modalities of means application of natural materials within this craft, and having learned traditionally as well from those from taught the same way...

  • @azcoueshntr
    @azcoueshntr 11 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful work, great job.

  • @GQ3MindSpeaks
    @GQ3MindSpeaks 17 днів тому

    That’s a beautiful bow. A fast bow.

  • @jillatherton4660
    @jillatherton4660 11 місяців тому +2

    A great help for my current project; 45" Hazel. 😄👍

  • @organicarchery
    @organicarchery 3 місяці тому

    Looks like a fast bow! Well done! I’ll always be amazed by the quality of bows that can be produced from so little osage.

  • @jeremymcclary3901
    @jeremymcclary3901 7 місяців тому +2

    Could the bow made by Geronimo have been made of mulberry, as your description is spot on....

  • @jonathanbizotii-rj4rv
    @jonathanbizotii-rj4rv 11 місяців тому +1

    That is so cool...
    Beautiful bow

  • @marcelomallo5163
    @marcelomallo5163 Місяць тому

    Quiero darte las gracias por haber mostrado el arco y flechas que le hizo nuestro hermano geranio al doctor. Imágenes increíbles de haber visto para mi ese arco y flechas de geronimo desde montevideo muchas gracias

  • @markgibsons_SWpottery
    @markgibsons_SWpottery 11 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful information, great presentation, now I have to go make my own Geronimo bow... Thanks for the inspiration!!!

  • @Anson120
    @Anson120 11 місяців тому +5

    I was born around where he was born: Morenci,AZ. They need to return his remains to his people. Oklahoma is a hellscape LOL

    • @David-th2ug
      @David-th2ug 3 години тому

      They almost certainly don't want them. He's not revered by the Apache.

  • @Ozarkwonderer
    @Ozarkwonderer 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice bow.
    We have a geronimo bow near us at the Springfield bass pro archery museum. I based a hickory bow off it and it shot amazingly at 45 pounds. It got ruined do to some dampness and mold in my old house. But I have made several short bows since and appreciate their compactness

  • @MomoHat123
    @MomoHat123 11 місяців тому +1

    Now this is top tier content💪💪

  • @tomatchue9252
    @tomatchue9252 Місяць тому

    Excellent video!

  • @malypejlou4914
    @malypejlou4914 8 місяців тому

    I love this channel. Great videos, keep em coming!

  • @davidedmon-eq1yp
    @davidedmon-eq1yp 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you.

  • @joedaniels4646
    @joedaniels4646 10 місяців тому

    That turned out very nice ...great job!

  • @GEKKO_Archery
    @GEKKO_Archery 10 місяців тому +1

    Very nice, thanks for sharing the story and the bow.
    I made more or less the same bow myself (without the backing), also using the exactly same tools, but mine is 66" long to provide 28" of draw length.
    What ist the historical reason for the very short draw length?
    As far as I know the native Americans are the only ones around the globe who didn't utilize the full draw length.

    • @justinmurray4652
      @justinmurray4652 20 днів тому +1

      They were made to shoot off horseback.Short draws and short arrows.Very deadly though

    • @GEKKO_Archery
      @GEKKO_Archery 19 днів тому

      @@justinmurray4652 I agree, but for the same purpose the Mongolians had composite bows with over 30" drawlengh with thumb release. They even built special devices to be able to shoot shorter (lighter) arrows for long range.

  • @hatfieldmccoy0311
    @hatfieldmccoy0311 11 місяців тому +2

    Fort Sill is where he passed. I have made a bunch of Osage orange bows, I have three that are around 10-15 year bows that never took on that darker color for some reason. Could that possibly be the case with this bow, did you see any of the little cracks that are fairly normal with Osage

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  11 місяців тому +1

      Ive been to Fort Sill. Pretty cool place too with rich history.

  • @Killianwsh
    @Killianwsh 10 місяців тому

    What type of glue did you use to attach the Rawhide?

  • @usnchief1339
    @usnchief1339 11 місяців тому +45

    Outlaw? No, he was not an outlaw. He was fighting for the freedom of his people. Unfortunately a scenario that continues to this day.

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  10 місяців тому +17

      Absolutely an outlaw! An outlaw is someone who is defying the law. The law was broken and corrupt. Geronimo fought against corruption and was a bad ass outlaw!

    • @calebchristian404
      @calebchristian404 10 місяців тому +3

      Towards the end of his fighting days with the US he had very little followers and most Apaches on the reservations disliked him. He made life harder for the Apaches who had already surrendered

    • @ronduff4325
      @ronduff4325 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly

    • @africanogloriosus7474
      @africanogloriosus7474 9 місяців тому

      ​@@PrimitiveLifeways Forajido es el que roba. Los EEUU robaron la mitad del territorio a Méjico. Y los apaches notaron ese cambio. Ellos tenían una cultura del neolítico. Y los supuestamente "civilizados" gringos, una cultura europea, con mentalidad democrática y religión cristiana. Que los encerraba como animales en reservas y pagaban recompensas por las cabelleras, hasta de niños. Parece mentira, que usted, en pleno siglo XXI, aún opine que era un Forajido. Solo falta que diga aquello " el único indio bueno, es el indio muerto"

    • @Man_fay_the_Bru
      @Man_fay_the_Bru 8 місяців тому

      @@calebchristian404yeah but at least he knew what plumbing& other modernities they were missing out on

  • @johngonzalez5593
    @johngonzalez5593 4 місяці тому

    Beautiful work

  • @plywoodcarjohnson5412
    @plywoodcarjohnson5412 10 місяців тому

    Cool! Very good Sir! A 55 pound bow is probably the most useful. I figured out a multipurpose bow, in these days of power walking. A takedown bow with both limbs containing knives hidden in the shafts. So if you are out trekking and a crazy pitbull bites your hiking stick? But I think it might not be possible. Still, you could give it a go. I'll try it. The limbs should be really curvy and raw so it looks as if you picked up two sticks from the forest. In the spirit of "concealed carry". Nobody should be able to figure out that you're holding two knives and that you have a bow ready to be assembled.

  • @jordachemenard4476
    @jordachemenard4476 10 місяців тому

    Excellent video thank you!

  • @davidedwards1566
    @davidedwards1566 11 місяців тому +3

    yesssss!!!

  • @danielspain7231
    @danielspain7231 11 місяців тому +1

    Mate where did you get your shirt it’s awesome

  • @BaroqueViolin
    @BaroqueViolin 6 місяців тому

    Very interesting! Thank you!

  • @PrimitiveLifeways
    @PrimitiveLifeways  10 місяців тому

    10,000 views. Thank you all. Keep sharing!

  • @Jtryan123
    @Jtryan123 3 місяці тому

    My man😊❤

  • @marcos2103ful
    @marcos2103ful 8 місяців тому

    Excelente!

  • @danielspain7231
    @danielspain7231 11 місяців тому +2

    THE Chief

  • @jill-ti7oe
    @jill-ti7oe 4 місяці тому

    Sweet. 👍

  • @uh....-wd3kk
    @uh....-wd3kk 10 місяців тому

    I read thstvthe Apache made bows out of desert mulberry. Mulberry being related to Osage. Mulberry a great bowwood depending on sub species and individual tree. Much mulberry wood being pretty much even with Osage for performance as bow wood. (used alot in Asia too, and great for long bows also) Mulberry usualy dries/ages to be a lighter colour than Osage. In Geronimo's autobiography there is a passage where he relates one of his warriors supernatural vision of another world via a mulberry tree etc. He said he wasn't necessarily too much for such visions but that this vision was one that stuck with him.

    • @uh....-wd3kk
      @uh....-wd3kk 10 місяців тому

      ...desery mulberry that they harvested from a specific area.... Can't remember where I read that but the literatures out there sumwhere if you're interested.

  • @AB-kg6rk
    @AB-kg6rk 10 місяців тому

    Cool video. Fort Sill Oklahoma not "Ft. Still". 😅

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  10 місяців тому

      Yep, I know I said Ft. Still in the voiceover. I know it’s Ft Sill and that’s what I have in the script. I actually went to Ft. Sill a few months ago too to collect information for this video. Sometimes mistakes happen and the pronouncing of Ft Sill was one of them. I hope you enjoyed the video though.

  • @rohnmiller8063
    @rohnmiller8063 8 місяців тому

    Nice!

  • @user-76hanging-on
    @user-76hanging-on 10 місяців тому +3

    I read years ago that some native American bows were tested for pull and how far they would shoot!
    The 28 pound pull Apache bow actually shot the farthest of them all!
    Some bows had almost 100 pounds pull!
    "ISHI" was the title of that book!

  • @ratamahatta1300
    @ratamahatta1300 10 місяців тому

    I am a bit sceptical, if using ash for short bows would be a good choice.

  • @BarryCherry-r9h
    @BarryCherry-r9h 4 місяці тому +1

    Geronimo was not a chief, he was a medicine man

  • @ArcheryGuy2
    @ArcheryGuy2 11 місяців тому

    cool

  • @spencercumm907
    @spencercumm907 3 місяці тому

    I made bows out of saplings when I was a kid they were not the best because I used the wood in the woods that were around but they still were pretty good

  • @whisperingdeath308
    @whisperingdeath308 6 місяців тому +1

    His given name was Goyahkla (“The One Who Yawns”). The Mexicans gave him the name Geronimo which has no consensus as to how it was given.

  • @jasontsang2232
    @jasontsang2232 2 дні тому

    Why not make a longer bow you can draw back further???

  • @Man_fay_the_Bru
    @Man_fay_the_Bru 8 місяців тому

    That wee geronimo guy had some bottle

  • @Jeff-fv9rk
    @Jeff-fv9rk 10 місяців тому

    American hero

  • @fishmaniachannel
    @fishmaniachannel 11 місяців тому

    👌

  • @benderbender1233
    @benderbender1233 11 місяців тому

    🖖

  • @danielspain7231
    @danielspain7231 11 місяців тому +3

    Geronibow (sorry)

  • @RezzoCreeSavage69
    @RezzoCreeSavage69 2 місяці тому

    can you make me one? or can i buy one off of you or maybe even trade?

  • @lorenzoarredondojr3737
    @lorenzoarredondojr3737 11 місяців тому +2

    I understand what you're doing. GERONIMO WAS NEVER A CHIEF, hello 😢. Even Google knows. Thanks

    • @TightwadTodd
      @TightwadTodd 11 місяців тому +1

      Correct. That title was Hereditary among the N'De.

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  11 місяців тому +3

      Geronimo was a medicine man but according to written testimony, after leading his people, he took on a chief role.

    • @TightwadTodd
      @TightwadTodd 11 місяців тому +1

      @@PrimitiveLifeways No, he never did by "Apache" Tradition and definition. Naiche the hereditary Chief was right there, along side him during all phases of conflict and relocation as prisoners of war. He was not a Medicine Man by definition as a True "Medicine man or woman, would not partake in raids or war other than defensively when attacked. He was however respected as a warrior and war leader as was for his visions and tactics and was consulted for such, much the same as Lozen.

    • @PrimitiveLifeways
      @PrimitiveLifeways  10 місяців тому

      @@TightwadTodd Take that up with the publications and oral traditions. There are written accounts from the late 1800s and 1900s of him being revered as a chief. Maybe he didnt see himself as one, but others did.

    • @TightwadTodd
      @TightwadTodd 10 місяців тому

      @@PrimitiveLifeways, Non Natives gave him that Title.

  • @user-76hanging-on
    @user-76hanging-on 10 місяців тому

    Read the book, "ISHI" ! DESCRIBED the APACHE bow ! 28 pounds pull yet threw an arrow farthest of all tested!

    • @stevew2347
      @stevew2347 10 місяців тому

      The weight of the arrow definitely comes into play when considering distance shooting. When using 10grains for each pound of draw weight. Bows of similar design will shoot similar distances. Example are a 28# bow with a 280 grain arrow will shoot a similar distance as a 40# bow shooting a 400 grain arrow.... But a 40# bow shooting a 280 grain arrow will almost always outshoot a 28# bow shooting a 280 grain arrow when bows are of similar design.
      So, to say a 28# bow shoots the furthest is misleading without other details.

    • @user-76hanging-on
      @user-76hanging-on 10 місяців тому

      @stevew2347
      I always wondered, What bow wood did the Apache use?
      A hundred pounds bow that's not SPRINGY, won't shoot 10 feet.

  • @davidlee4238
    @davidlee4238 4 місяці тому

    It’s Fort Sill, lads, also, Jeff, buddy, Geronimo was never a chief, war shaman for the chiricapeople, that’s the fact jack!!

  • @lyndonreddick1888
    @lyndonreddick1888 8 місяців тому

    Geronimo actually surrendered to General Miles.

  • @mauricedevine7350
    @mauricedevine7350 6 місяців тому

    ummmmm - Fort 'Sill' vs. 'Still?

  • @Sirskibumsalot
    @Sirskibumsalot Місяць тому

    His real Name is Goyahkia .....the Mexicans he fought always called him Geronimo ...That's how this name came to be ....

  • @juancarlosbelletti6335
    @juancarlosbelletti6335 2 місяці тому

    No ENTIENDO NADA

  • @cherchezlesoir7166
    @cherchezlesoir7166 2 місяці тому

    Why the heck are you calling it" primitive" instead of NATIVE???? There is NOTHING primitive!!!

  • @Creekrock44
    @Creekrock44 4 місяці тому

    Geronimo be proud.

  • @Stashley78
    @Stashley78 10 місяців тому

    By complications from pneumonia, do you mean falling off his horse drunk at night? His body was found face down in a small stream. RIP Goyakleh. 🏹