@@swisschese1323 I feel like the people in charge of these decisions only care about their own decks, collections, and favorite cards, so they influence corporate decisions in their own favor.
Konami hates collectors. So they employed a strategy to devalue the collectors legacy cards and make competitive play more expensive knowing that competitive players will certainly be willing to pay for over-valued competitive cards.
@@tonystone10K havent they been releasing annual products that cater to collectors specifically for the last several years? Like the Blue-eyes, DM, Egyptian Gods Platium cards, megatins, anime chronicle? Iirc they also release an entire rarity for collectible value specifically (QCCR) last year. Competitive yugioh cards are affordable in OCG and AE (not cheap but also not costs like an entire worth of rent for a playset), they just get short-printed and rarity-bumped to shit in TCG for some reasons.
If you wanna sell stuff to people that play older format, just print A NEW sealed product with all cards at common for those people. Thia way you dont fuck up the rarity of old cards
@@ManuelRiccobono I don't mind ruining the prices for old cards. I play with them because I prefer them and they are more nostalgic. I don't play with them because they cost hundreds of bucks.
Maybe 20 cards of the 101 card set see any actual play in the retro formats that people actually play though, and especially not any of the Secret Rares.
Right, the "correct" text that tells you fuck all and still requires you to look up time capsule hearsay rulings to decipher the intended functionality
Well sure, but it would’ve made more sense to release a new set with the new cards. It would also have been better to use new card text standards for old effects, because most old style cards are undecipherable without having access to the rulings
It's not a "Problem" to be fixed, it's something that is a requires part of every successful Trading Card Game. If you ignore any single portion of the Players/Investors (Vendors, ECT.)/Collectors triangle, the game will simply die.
@@tmgn7588 Tell me what Successful Trading Card Game that's still running today, that does not aim to please the players with good product, collectors with rare cards, and investors with potential money to be made with selling to happy players and hungry collectors. Every dead game ends up that way because one of these three groups were burned too badly. Modern example being Bandai-Led TCGs, and it's still happening to One Piece as we speak with bad tournament structure and poor product distrobution.
@@larv23 how exactly? The secondary market is where these people make their money, they aren’t even buying the packs. The only people buying boxes are either collectors in the actual hobby (Ruxin) or competitive players and “investors” that see gambling as investing. The secondary market has no bearing on the profit the card printing company makes, just how much the average player has to spend to buy singles from somewhere else. Turns people off from the game, like myself, who won’t touch the paper game because the secondary market is actually way too much money. Buying a new computer every 3 months would actually be a better use of my money
I agree but only if they stop short printing competitive staples and just make it so that YGO decks cost as little as Pokemon decks to build. The more that the speculator/investor types focus on competitively irrelevant cards, the better.
Absolutely not. Whether you like it or not, "value collectors" as you call them are important for the game's longevity. They make the high-end profitable. They only become a problem when they are forced out of that high-end market. I don't care if a 10 year old ulti rare Effect Veiler costs 300, I care whether the busted secret in a set costs 20 or 120. There's literally no reason for Konami to devalue old cards like this, when they are either competitively irrelevant or reprinted to the ground anyway
bro its clearly the print policy that is the problem.. if a rare card that everyone wants is like 1 per box and all the collectors open up that box to get the card and all the good competetive cards where printed at a low rarity it would mean that all the cards that the players want are cheap.. only that komoney makes the good cards the chase cards by short printing or rarity bumping them..
So as a person getting two of thier friends into the og anime for the first time, this gives me the ultimate gift for then to start getting into some casual games. They can use cards thier familiar with, and honestly I would be down to get these for each Era as years go on because I want to get into it from the start rather then trying to jump into the 100 words mega complicated card meta
pre-errata sangan basically doesn't have a cheap holo printing, graceful charity hasn't been printed in 10 years, and pre-errata exchange of the spirit... exists, although the sneak preview print for that is weirdly common... and that's about it
Old bulk cards that see random play always shoot up in price because nobody has them anymore. I think people need to learn basic economic principles of supply and demand.
Better yet throw all the Edison stuff from RC2 into this theoretical retro pack instead with rarity bumps. Hell even something like Trident could go in because it was rogue in Edison dragon decks at one point.
They reprint goat/edison ect all the time. Just through drips. Speed duels is filled with goat and edison reprints dirt cheap. Why waste more trees for stuff that already exists cheaply. And yes trident or substitoad like cards should and will be reprint. I’d rather reprint cards we need instead of 1 million reprints of the same things already cheap. Rarity bump not needed
Re-prints normally only de-value currently played cards, people who still just collect for the sake of collecting wont bother with re-prints since they want the oldest prettiest stuff.
@@MBTYuGiOh I nearly choked on my dinner when I read that. The most expensive card in the set is a 95-cent banned card. Just make Yugioh DnD at this point.
@@orga7777 Butt hat requires buying singles which isn't something casual buyers or players really want to do. Pulling cards from packs and playing with the cards you pulled is much of the fun for a casual player. Not to mention that for some supporting a third party reseller market itself is off putting. Yugioh is kinda weird that it has kinda normalized buying singles over pulling packs but stores need stock players want to buy and pull cards from. and especially for kids their parents may let them look at the singles box in the card shop (that usually only keeps singles from the newest sets due to space) they aren't going to let their child dive into buying singles online. Even as a player that tries to play rogue I try to avoid buying singles it ain't fun and I will often just wait for a reprint set where I can pull the cards I want. Part of the main reason I haven't gone back to play older formats is I haven't pulled enough playable cards for those formats, I could buy play sets online for barely anything but I ain't gunna if I don't gotta I'll wait to pull it.
I generally think it's because they want to devalue a lot of the old cards. Honestly this gives everybody a wonderful time if they're trying to collect all the cards got from it if you are. On top of that if they start moving to more staple cards, I'm pretty sure Konami will also start printing them more often than not. Making them pretty much pointless. Cuz it's getting to a point where having cards, and then making a deck is getting way too expensive
Moms with children who just watched the anime and are throwing a tantrum because they want to summon heckin blue eyes. So they buy the first yugioh product they see in stock at walmart. Not a big demographic but hey technically an availiable market
Except I don't think the classic Yu-Gi-Oh anime has been on any tv channels in years, and it's unlikely any kids are gonna go on a streaming service JUST to watch the classic series.
Kids are not getting into this game for better and worse. There is no push to them at all and the show isn't being shown anywhere. Anything to bitch about blue eyes I suppose :v
Please buy out staples and cores available only at high rarity for the sake of collecting. This will help push the rarity structure closer to OCG sensibility to not completely choke out the competitive scene. They didn’t think it was a problem because competitors are genuinely strung out far enough to buy Bonfires at what was asked.
It is. There *are* sets that are more fun (like Battle Pack 1, Dark Beginnings 2, or Dark Revelation 1), but it is among the better ones that is worth drafting out of the box. It's not the worst environment for learning the game either.
@@minabasejderha5972why English people like you obsessed with drafting when that we know it's not going to sell in games like yugioh, I read and knew exactly that battle pack and speed duel draft box fail to sell in tcg and you keep "Let's print draft box Konami" when you know the audience of that product are less than 1000 people and guaranteed loss of profit.
@@minabasejderha5972if you want to make people learn the game, put them into lower power format like legend anthology and tell them to pick which archetype they like to play.
Yeah, so imagine if "Investment" collectors, who buy out old products to the point of it being near impossible to find them, started buying out all the meta boxes and caused an even higher increase in card cost.
Ok, I sincerely don’t know how this devalues collections. Original printings usually hold value despite reprints. Also I find it difficult to believe “finance types” aren’t already buying high-end secrets.
It's a case of "Why would I buy the older more expensive cards from you, when they now have affordable cheap variants of the cards with the pre-errata text on them?" This in turn means that the "finance types" either have to lose money on their original investment to sell or hope to sell a slabbed type to people who just want a collection with no intention to play the game. It's the same reason Silent Magician, despite being rarely played, had a 30 USD price tag that dropped like a rock when RC02 came out. It was basically a nostalgia based collectors piece, but that didn't stop the original and only printing from losing value on the market.
"It devalues the binders of collectors" Good. They learnt this with Magic the Gathering, when the cost of a card gets arbitrarily high they reprint (or a similar effect card) to drop the value and prevent it being a pay 2 win game.
None of these cards’ lowest cost is over a single dollar ($1). It’s just these printing were exclusive to Europe and having them in the states made them expensive. This has nothing to do with meta…
Lmao Fck the collectors. They're the one responsible for jacking up card prices. These packs are great for casuals who actually want to play old Yugioh. Keep them coming
Finally, a satisfyingly good transition from end to beginning of the short. I was getting second hand embarrassment from so many other ytbers not being able to do it correctly
Not gonna lie, after learning this set has the original card text, maybe this is Konami finally recognising legacy formats like Goat? Oh who am I kidding, it's _100%_ nostalgia bait
On an unrelated note it takes roughly 2743 bomb threats in 11 months for konami to release a classic layout pre errata reprint set as an apology for fucking up the 25th anniversary reprint sets.
Another Reason Konami makes Sets like this is to Reprint older Cards with Modern Names and Rules Text. Having modified Text makes it easy to tell these cards from the Valuable Collector's Stock, so it won't affect the Values of those...
I play a premade group of old school yard decks, like a 2 player board game at this point i would have loved this 5 years ago when i started, but i grabbed a lot of these as singles... MST and Reborn don't seem expensive until you need 20+ of them.
If it's not for collectors, or the competitive, it's for the casuals who just want to have fun without destroying their bank accounts. How about that answer?
? Casuals can play anything though. They can have fun picking up 3 Structure Decks for $30. You're acting like without this horrible Retro Pack 2 print, casuals have nothing else.
Yep. I'm a filthy casual. And I have a collection of yugioh cards. I don't want to mix in speed dual or rush dual anything. I don't like that the cards are different in any way. So I won't be adding those to the classic collection me and my friends play.
This set is for ME exactly. I was so god damn disappointed when the lob reprint set was revealed to have the modern layout. I want to play shiny cards in a retro format with the retro layout and without breaking the bank.
Because they're a business and it sucks. A better thing for them to do is to make booster packs with 5 cards like in OCG, that would drop the price by quite a bit, one of the most expensive cards right now in the TCG (not looking at rarity) goes for about +$100, but in the OCG, you can get it for less than $5 because of their system.
@@Awesomeficationify it was a rhetorical question. Are people really crying because of a set came out? Do you really think TCG Konami will just turn good and stop milking the competitive players? Go for the OCG logic instead? He just answered in the video? Just let people have old cards if they want to, it's not like they would have made a banger reprint set instead of this one.
But why retro pack?? All the cards in retro pack 1 have reprinted to death. There are better printings of Exodia and this one isnt even the OG printing. This pleases maybe 1 person.
I'll never forget the "great crash" with the massive reprints. Making staple powerful cards no more then 30$. Then konami banned 1/2 and power creep the other 1/2 so hard change of heart and snatch steal are back.
I guess it's for people like me. I get the "yugiboomer" itch every now and then and it's nice to play around with old-school decks and opening packs of cards that I used when I was 10. It doesn't need to be competitive or about monetary value.
Y'all shouldn't be listening to these called yugitubers always whining about reprints, its for casuals and people that didn't get a chance at the set in the past let them have fun and whatever happens happens not everything they release has to do with flipping cards
This video shows why I got out of Yu-Gi-Oh so long ago. It's all about value and how much a card can sell for and how high can I jack up this card's price before it gets a reprint.
What he's saying is that investors will buy up all the Tier 0 cards and make *YOU* give them their return on investment if you want to play the game and do anything besides sit their helplessly as Seto Kaiba smacks you around with his credit card, laughs in your face, calls you a third-rate Duelist with a fourth-rate Deck and shames you into leaving Yu-Gi-Oh!
Gotta love the intentional ignorance in the way the question is framed Any other set with a DM focus he would chalk up to being boomer nostalgia bait and how that business model is enough for Konami to keep making those types of decisions But now that this set has a downside (one that probably effects vendor and collector friends of his) suddenly it's not "Why are we doing DM nostalgia again" but "Who is this set for?" as if there's no possible explanation for it
Feels like Konami got real scared when AGOV raised the price ceiling for competitive decks the way it did. Ever since LEDE, it looks like they're over correcting with how rarities are distributed. RC02 also, destroying the value of many older staples
Judging by this comments section it's to appease people who have no understanding of finance and think that collectors are responsible for high card prices rather than Konami.
For the no Yugioh players that want to have cards but not necessarily to build a deck When they reprinted LOB it was a blast for me, i bought packs fort the first time in almost 10 years because it's basically just cool merchandising and cards from the show of my childhood it was super fun
I legit think that Konami just wants collectors out of the TCG, every decision they made recently has been to that effect. Probably that in their twisted minds, they think collectors are the one driving the price for cards like S:P while in truth it's just that when you print such a busted card that everybody needs and put it at secret rare it's gonna cost a ton.
Its both, obviously the better the card and the rarer makes it more expensive, but the finance types do skyrocket prices as well. Pokemon had this problem recently, where some influencers talked about how they made a profit collecting and selling cards. So stock was bought out, and many children who just liked the cards, and serious players were dissapointed at the rising prices. They had a different solution though, they just massively overprinted to drop the prices and make investors lose value. Now the game is in its signaturely low price tag again after a bit of time.
I think they want investment collectors out of the game, nor collectors, I mean I'm a causal collector(not buying a bunch of packs and depriving my Walmart of everything) and I still have fun, I just like the art work and also well, I do actually play the game
You're almost there. It's the vendors who drive the prices up. They call it "supply and demand," I call it gouging where they can get away with it. S:P being Secret gives them an excuse to gouge, but even if it was Super, it would still be at least a $50 card guaranteed.
These are part of a different set which means it will have a different identifyer like RP1-001 or something like that. They are different then the originals which arent getting devalued at all.
Meh anything to screw the "investors". Keep in mind that the secondary market does nothing for players or for Konami. If someone wanted to screw over players by buying as much of the short prints and chase cards as they can, they can absolutely do so. That said, I still don't understand the point of this product.
This is yugi's year. We had manga yugi stuff, yugi's grandpa deck, yugi's rival support and yugi and yugi's rival on the tins alongside this retro pack with yugi on the cover. . . . . . . . . . God, we need a new anime asap
As an old school collector: I'm happy they are reprinting this whole game 😂, people don't deserve to make money with yugioh cards, which is what konami is thinking 🎉
Im playing a kids in bikes tabletop game. It takes palce in 2003 and my character really like yu gi oh he has the starter decks for kiba, yugi, and Joey as of last session
It's for me lol. Someone who hasn't been into yugioh since ye olden times but still likes opening packs every once in a while just for funsies. Opening one of these the other day was a great blast of nostalgia
I used to play YuGiOh A LOT when it first came out and let me tell you, it was INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING... Every single good card that was rare ended up easily accessible in a starter deck and all my hard work to get an exclusive deck was for nothing. Making everything accessible made it pointless to try and keep up, just wait a few months and all the cards you work hard to get will be a few bucks away in a promo.
Someone like me that is a retro casual semi collecter. My first decks where pure jank. Started with exodia moved upto gate guardian because I've been waiting for a retrain but honestly expected ritual support rather than fusion as there's no reason to actually run the original in new but I digress. Then made dark magician, red eyes burn, skull servant, millennium eyes restrict, thunder dragon and most recently mementos and yes I'm calling them that because it's easier. FAQ'S No I really don't run ash or max C I occasionally run some hand trap counters that may or may not let me steal a monster or draw 2. No I don't win that often and my highest rank is plat 3. Yes I am aware that I should be running 3 x ash to stop my opponent playing the game but I prefer when the game was about what you could do rather than what you can stop your opponent doing straight into a concede. Yes I do run stuff like cobra and chaos angel but also feather duster MR and Raigeki and I'm not blind to the modern meta but I find it more fun to make 60 card retro theme decks and find uses for stuff like The Giltia retrain that I SWEAR is gonna get better when they unban dragoon xD however if that happens I have a nasty red eyes burn exodia otk I wanna try and make lol.
It is a day ending in Y, which means Konami must have done another boneheaded thing, desperately screaming “we don’t want to keep doing this, please let the game die”.
I've always wanted to get retro packs but couldn't afford them. I'm going to buy as much as i can. Might not be that much because my mortgage is really expensive, but it'll make me happy to open a few of them
Konami: "Our business practices is beyond your understanding."
"it is also beyond OUR OWN understanding most of the time"
@@swisschese1323 I feel like the people in charge of these decisions only care about their own decks, collections, and favorite cards, so they influence corporate decisions in their own favor.
Konami hates collectors. So they employed a strategy to devalue the collectors legacy cards and make competitive play more expensive knowing that competitive players will certainly be willing to pay for over-valued competitive cards.
@@tonystone10K havent they been releasing annual products that cater to collectors specifically for the last several years? Like the Blue-eyes, DM, Egyptian Gods Platium cards, megatins, anime chronicle? Iirc they also release an entire rarity for collectible value specifically (QCCR) last year. Competitive yugioh cards are affordable in OCG and AE (not cheap but also not costs like an entire worth of rent for a playset), they just get short-printed and rarity-bumped to shit in TCG for some reasons.
@@swisschese1323 Consider it Konami's revenge for those two guys that brought a 2000 card deck to a tournament.
It's got the original car text. Which means playing at older format you'll have copies of the correct text
If you wanna sell stuff to people that play older format, just print A NEW sealed product with all cards at common for those people. Thia way you dont fuck up the rarity of old cards
@@ManuelRiccobono I don't mind ruining the prices for old cards. I play with them because I prefer them and they are more nostalgic. I don't play with them because they cost hundreds of bucks.
Maybe 20 cards of the 101 card set see any actual play in the retro formats that people actually play though, and especially not any of the Secret Rares.
@@Benjii_MCand print some foil version of card that were only common
Right, the "correct" text that tells you fuck all and still requires you to look up time capsule hearsay rulings to decipher the intended functionality
This set has a pre errata super rare Sangang for Edison (and GOAT) format players. That’s basically it lol
People like me who gave up playing before and now want to come back for GOAT format.
exactly, i really think he's got it completely wrong on this one
Well sure, but it would’ve made more sense to release a new set with the new cards. It would also have been better to use new card text standards for old effects, because most old style cards are undecipherable without having access to the rulings
And for old drafts with your friends!
The majority of goat cards, bar Delinquent Duo, Trap Dustshoot and Tribe, are under 5$ anyway. And two (maybe all 3) of those aren’t even in here
@@KikiCatMeow American reality is different. Here in Brazil some of them are really hard to find and what is $5 for you is R$ 30 for us.
We really need to do something about Yugioh's "Imvester" problem.
It's not a "Problem" to be fixed, it's something that is a requires part of every successful Trading Card Game. If you ignore any single portion of the Players/Investors (Vendors, ECT.)/Collectors triangle, the game will simply die.
@@larv23 statement without proof or reason
@@tmgn7588 Tell me what Successful Trading Card Game that's still running today, that does not aim to please the players with good product, collectors with rare cards, and investors with potential money to be made with selling to happy players and hungry collectors. Every dead game ends up that way because one of these three groups were burned too badly. Modern example being Bandai-Led TCGs, and it's still happening to One Piece as we speak with bad tournament structure and poor product distrobution.
Its a simple solution: If you own over 200 cards and DON'T go to your locals, you lose kneecap privileges
@@larv23 how exactly? The secondary market is where these people make their money, they aren’t even buying the packs. The only people buying boxes are either collectors in the actual hobby (Ruxin) or competitive players and “investors” that see gambling as investing. The secondary market has no bearing on the profit the card printing company makes, just how much the average player has to spend to buy singles from somewhere else. Turns people off from the game, like myself, who won’t touch the paper game because the secondary market is actually way too much money. Buying a new computer every 3 months would actually be a better use of my money
Fucking over value collectors is always the morally correct option for card game developers. Speculative investor types ruin everything they touch.
Exactly. Screw these MTGFinance MFs.
I agree but only if they stop short printing competitive staples and just make it so that YGO decks cost as little as Pokemon decks to build. The more that the speculator/investor types focus on competitively irrelevant cards, the better.
I mean the argument MBT makes is that it would just drive the price up on competitive staples instead, although I don't know if that holds water
Absolutely not. Whether you like it or not, "value collectors" as you call them are important for the game's longevity. They make the high-end profitable. They only become a problem when they are forced out of that high-end market. I don't care if a 10 year old ulti rare Effect Veiler costs 300, I care whether the busted secret in a set costs 20 or 120. There's literally no reason for Konami to devalue old cards like this, when they are either competitively irrelevant or reprinted to the ground anyway
bro its clearly the print policy that is the problem.. if a rare card that everyone wants is like 1 per box and all the collectors open up that box to get the card and all the good competetive cards where printed at a low rarity it would mean that all the cards that the players want are cheap.. only that komoney makes the good cards the chase cards by short printing or rarity bumping them..
So as a person getting two of thier friends into the og anime for the first time, this gives me the ultimate gift for then to start getting into some casual games. They can use cards thier familiar with, and honestly I would be down to get these for each Era as years go on because I want to get into it from the start rather then trying to jump into the 100 words mega complicated card meta
pre-errata sangan basically doesn't have a cheap holo printing, graceful charity hasn't been printed in 10 years, and pre-errata exchange of the spirit... exists, although the sneak preview print for that is weirdly common...
and that's about it
yeah these seem to capitalize on the older formats, since most of the cards you mentioned aren't even allowed in ocg/tcg in YEARS
You’re gonna tell me you don’t want a secret rare Armed Ninja?
Brother secret rares are already being used as investments. What we need the OCG multiple rarities in the same pack
It gives more reasons to open boosters and makes cards more accessible through prints of lower rarity and that's exactly two things we need
"Good balance between competitive and collectors" he says as i have to purchase shit like WHITE DUSTON at $6
Old bulk cards that see random play always shoot up in price because nobody has them anymore. I think people need to learn basic economic principles of supply and demand.
Imagine if instead of this, they announced a Retro Pack 3 with Edison/Goat/Tengu plant staples
Better yet throw all the Edison stuff from RC2 into this theoretical retro pack instead with rarity bumps. Hell even something like Trident could go in because it was rogue in Edison dragon decks at one point.
They reprint goat/edison ect all the time. Just through drips. Speed duels is filled with goat and edison reprints dirt cheap. Why waste more trees for stuff that already exists cheaply. And yes trident or substitoad like cards should and will be reprint. I’d rather reprint cards we need instead of 1 million reprints of the same things already cheap. Rarity bump not needed
Re-prints normally only de-value currently played cards, people who still just collect for the sake of collecting wont bother with re-prints since they want the oldest prettiest stuff.
since you can differentiate due to the copyright this is just the unlimited printing the TAKAHASHI copyright = first edition for retro pack
Devalue cards more. There's no reason any card needs to ever be $20+.
the highest-priced card in this pack is graceful charity, a banned card you can currently purchase for ninety-five cents
@@MBTYuGiOh I nearly choked on my dinner when I read that. The most expensive card in the set is a 95-cent banned card.
Just make Yugioh DnD at this point.
No card in this set is over a dollar… and most can be bought for 5 cents
@@MikeDaaBeast for lowest rarity? Retro pack sangan is pretty expensive rn
More than $2. I bought a $10 card just cause it looked cool and was ashamed of myself
For people playing retro formats there’s actually some decent cards there and it helps make those formats cheaper
Like if you’re playing GOAT
No. Every single card in Retro Pack has so many reprints that you can get them for less than a dollar.
@@orga7777 Butt hat requires buying singles which isn't something casual buyers or players really want to do.
Pulling cards from packs and playing with the cards you pulled is much of the fun for a casual player.
Not to mention that for some supporting a third party reseller market itself is off putting.
Yugioh is kinda weird that it has kinda normalized buying singles over pulling packs but stores need stock players want to buy and pull cards from.
and especially for kids their parents may let them look at the singles box in the card shop (that usually only keeps singles from the newest sets due to space) they aren't going to let their child dive into buying singles online.
Even as a player that tries to play rogue I try to avoid buying singles it ain't fun and I will often just wait for a reprint set where I can pull the cards I want.
Part of the main reason I haven't gone back to play older formats is I haven't pulled enough playable cards for those formats, I could buy play sets online for barely anything but I ain't gunna if I don't gotta I'll wait to pull it.
"Devalues collectors, finance types" good.
I generally think it's because they want to devalue a lot of the old cards. Honestly this gives everybody a wonderful time if they're trying to collect all the cards got from it if you are. On top of that if they start moving to more staple cards, I'm pretty sure Konami will also start printing them more often than not. Making them pretty much pointless. Cuz it's getting to a point where having cards, and then making a deck is getting way too expensive
I want to specifically own Blast Sphere and I refuse to use the internet to obtain it. Finally, Konami makes a pack targeted directly to me.
True.
Me and my friend are excited to buy a box and draft it.
Yugioh is not for collectors. The set is meant to lower the value of the old cards
Moms with children who just watched the anime and are throwing a tantrum because they want to summon heckin blue eyes. So they buy the first yugioh product they see in stock at walmart. Not a big demographic but hey technically an availiable market
Except I don't think the classic Yu-Gi-Oh anime has been on any tv channels in years, and it's unlikely any kids are gonna go on a streaming service JUST to watch the classic series.
@@DracoFreezeFlamerush duel is on air, so its possible
@@DracoFreezeFlame here in Germany there's only og Yu-Gi-Oh and zexel and og gets shown WAY more often
@@DracoFreezeFlameI know the Pluto app airs yugioh daily but it’s just the poor man’s cable but decent selection
Kids are not getting into this game for better and worse. There is no push to them at all and the show isn't being shown anywhere.
Anything to bitch about blue eyes I suppose :v
Please buy out staples and cores available only at high rarity for the sake of collecting.
This will help push the rarity structure closer to OCG sensibility to not completely choke out the competitive scene.
They didn’t think it was a problem because competitors are genuinely strung out far enough to buy Bonfires at what was asked.
This actually looks like it could be a lot of fun as a limited format
It is. There *are* sets that are more fun (like Battle Pack 1, Dark Beginnings 2, or Dark Revelation 1), but it is among the better ones that is worth drafting out of the box. It's not the worst environment for learning the game either.
@@minabasejderha5972 with this set you "learn" yugioh "back then" and not "current ygo"
@@minabasejderha5972why not just print the OCG koushiki starter pack so tcg players can experience what yugioh looks like before the expert rule?
@@minabasejderha5972why English people like you obsessed with drafting when that we know it's not going to sell in games like yugioh, I read and knew exactly that battle pack and speed duel draft box fail to sell in tcg and you keep "Let's print draft box Konami" when you know the audience of that product are less than 1000 people and guaranteed loss of profit.
@@minabasejderha5972if you want to make people learn the game, put them into lower power format like legend anthology and tell them to pick which archetype they like to play.
SP costs a hundred dollars. Per copy.
120+
Yeah, so imagine if "Investment" collectors, who buy out old products to the point of it being near impossible to find them, started buying out all the meta boxes and caused an even higher increase in card cost.
It costs 30 ur dust in MD
And before you say maxx C, you'll lose to snake eyes whether you're in md, tcg or ocg. Maxx c or not lmao
@timsuu8991 I much prefer going to locals then master duel tbh
@TICTAC-ZXZQ-sm9pjthat too
Ok, I sincerely don’t know how this devalues collections. Original printings usually hold value despite reprints. Also I find it difficult to believe “finance types” aren’t already buying high-end secrets.
It's a case of "Why would I buy the older more expensive cards from you, when they now have affordable cheap variants of the cards with the pre-errata text on them?" This in turn means that the "finance types" either have to lose money on their original investment to sell or hope to sell a slabbed type to people who just want a collection with no intention to play the game. It's the same reason Silent Magician, despite being rarely played, had a 30 USD price tag that dropped like a rock when RC02 came out. It was basically a nostalgia based collectors piece, but that didn't stop the original and only printing from losing value on the market.
This pack is basically a Critter starter pack. It's time to realise how awesome the Critter format actually is.
"It devalues the binders of collectors" Good.
They learnt this with Magic the Gathering, when the cost of a card gets arbitrarily high they reprint (or a similar effect card) to drop the value and prevent it being a pay 2 win game.
None of these cards’ lowest cost is over a single dollar ($1). It’s just these printing were exclusive to Europe and having them in the states made them expensive. This has nothing to do with meta…
@@MikeDaaBeast I didn't say that was the reason, I am just saying that it is beneficial
Lmao
Fck the collectors.
They're the one responsible for jacking up card prices.
These packs are great for casuals who actually want to play old Yugioh.
Keep them coming
Finally, a satisfyingly good transition from end to beginning of the short. I was getting second hand embarrassment from so many other ytbers not being able to do it correctly
Not gonna lie, after learning this set has the original card text, maybe this is Konami finally recognising legacy formats like Goat?
Oh who am I kidding, it's _100%_ nostalgia bait
On an unrelated note it takes roughly 2743 bomb threats in 11 months for konami to release a classic layout pre errata reprint set as an apology for fucking up the 25th anniversary reprint sets.
Another Reason Konami makes Sets like this is to Reprint older Cards with Modern Names and Rules Text. Having modified Text makes it easy to tell these cards from the Valuable Collector's Stock, so it won't affect the Values of those...
I play a premade group of old school yard decks, like a 2 player board game at this point i would have loved this 5 years ago when i started, but i grabbed a lot of these as singles... MST and Reborn don't seem expensive until you need 20+ of them.
If it's not for collectors, or the competitive, it's for the casuals who just want to have fun without destroying their bank accounts. How about that answer?
? Casuals can play anything though. They can have fun picking up 3 Structure Decks for $30. You're acting like without this horrible Retro Pack 2 print, casuals have nothing else.
@@CoordinatorKYamato Maybe, but they can still have fun with it
Buy speed duels then. You can even not use the skills and play with 40 cards. There ya go. Casual yugioh
@@catfriendking So casuals can't play normal yugioh? It's just that not everyone wants to play competitive cards.
Yep. I'm a filthy casual. And I have a collection of yugioh cards. I don't want to mix in speed dual or rush dual anything. I don't like that the cards are different in any way. So I won't be adding those to the classic collection me and my friends play.
It's for Time Wizard formats essentially
unironically gonna get this for my friend and i to draft
Its for people who wanna play older formats like Goat. Youll have the old PSCT on the cards (aka the correct PSCT for older formats)
This set is for ME exactly. I was so god damn disappointed when the lob reprint set was revealed to have the modern layout.
I want to play shiny cards in a retro format with the retro layout and without breaking the bank.
For me i would just get it because the cards look cool and it would be a cool commodity.
The people who want to play oldschool I guess?
Why not, whoever wants the cards have a chance to get them
Because they're a business and it sucks. A better thing for them to do is to make booster packs with 5 cards like in OCG, that would drop the price by quite a bit, one of the most expensive cards right now in the TCG (not looking at rarity) goes for about +$100, but in the OCG, you can get it for less than $5 because of their system.
He just explained why. Watch the video and come back with a more meaningful question.
@@Awesomeficationify it was a rhetorical question. Are people really crying because of a set came out? Do you really think TCG Konami will just turn good and stop milking the competitive players? Go for the OCG logic instead? He just answered in the video? Just let people have old cards if they want to, it's not like they would have made a banger reprint set instead of this one.
But why retro pack?? All the cards in retro pack 1 have reprinted to death. There are better printings of Exodia and this one isnt even the OG printing. This pleases maybe 1 person.
It’s for me. I want packs with cool old cards.
Oh investors are upset? Good
But this is perfect for drafting and playing GOAT, which is awesome
See my buddy and I wanna play GOAT format, so us. This set is for us
If only there were a third type of Yugioh player, neither competitor nor investor, who'd appreciate old nostalgic cards being made more available.
I'll never forget the "great crash" with the massive reprints. Making staple powerful cards no more then 30$. Then konami banned 1/2 and power creep the other 1/2 so hard change of heart and snatch steal are back.
Sounds like Collector talk
This will be hell of a draft cube with these cards, and I’m all here for it.😂
GOAT players just keep winning
I guess it's for people like me. I get the "yugiboomer" itch every now and then and it's nice to play around with old-school decks and opening packs of cards that I used when I was 10.
It doesn't need to be competitive or about monetary value.
Y'all shouldn't be listening to these called yugitubers always whining about reprints, its for casuals and people that didn't get a chance at the set in the past let them have fun and whatever happens happens not everything they release has to do with flipping cards
Exactly I agree
Bingo. Baby. Bop.
As someone who has RP01 stuff - this is great. Devalue the investors who don’t actually like yugioh - force them to move on to something else.
Hell yea galaxy buster baby! This is Matt Strandberg. Happy to see someone else playing ragnaraika too :)
It is for time wizard players that could not afford all these cards back in the day. Got 120$ in store credit saved up for it already.
I can't wait for the Retro Pack reprint.
People like me who wants to recollect the cards I had as a kid and not pay an arm and a leg
This set is missing the expansive dm cards for older formats the same reprints that were in the boxes
It's a set for Format players. I hope it sells decently. Maybe we'll get more to support older Formats and cheapen the card pool.
This video shows why I got out of Yu-Gi-Oh so long ago. It's all about value and how much a card can sell for and how high can I jack up this card's price before it gets a reprint.
Well, it's MUCH better than making a list of broken cards that will never be reprinted (looking at you, MTG).
Oh no won't someone think of the "investers"
What he's saying is that investors will buy up all the Tier 0 cards and make *YOU* give them their return on investment if you want to play the game and do anything besides sit their helplessly as Seto Kaiba smacks you around with his credit card, laughs in your face, calls you a third-rate Duelist with a fourth-rate Deck and shames you into leaving Yu-Gi-Oh!
Gotta love the intentional ignorance in the way the question is framed
Any other set with a DM focus he would chalk up to being boomer nostalgia bait and how that business model is enough for Konami to keep making those types of decisions
But now that this set has a downside (one that probably effects vendor and collector friends of his) suddenly it's not "Why are we doing DM nostalgia again" but "Who is this set for?" as if there's no possible explanation for it
Feels like Konami got real scared when AGOV raised the price ceiling for competitive decks the way it did. Ever since LEDE, it looks like they're over correcting with how rarities are distributed. RC02 also, destroying the value of many older staples
Casuals like me.
Maybe it makes irl goat more accessible?
Judging by this comments section it's to appease people who have no understanding of finance and think that collectors are responsible for high card prices rather than Konami.
For the no Yugioh players that want to have cards but not necessarily to build a deck
When they reprinted LOB it was a blast for me, i bought packs fort the first time in almost 10 years because it's basically just cool merchandising and cards from the show of my childhood it was super fun
It’s in America now, I bought 3
Shit, so my retro pack 1 cyber harpie lady will be worthless soon. I've been holding her for over 10 years as a staple in my collection.
I legit think that Konami just wants collectors out of the TCG, every decision they made recently has been to that effect. Probably that in their twisted minds, they think collectors are the one driving the price for cards like S:P while in truth it's just that when you print such a busted card that everybody needs and put it at secret rare it's gonna cost a ton.
Its both, obviously the better the card and the rarer makes it more expensive, but the finance types do skyrocket prices as well. Pokemon had this problem recently, where some influencers talked about how they made a profit collecting and selling cards. So stock was bought out, and many children who just liked the cards, and serious players were dissapointed at the rising prices.
They had a different solution though, they just massively overprinted to drop the prices and make investors lose value. Now the game is in its signaturely low price tag again after a bit of time.
I think they want investment collectors out of the game, nor collectors, I mean I'm a causal collector(not buying a bunch of packs and depriving my Walmart of everything) and I still have fun, I just like the art work and also well, I do actually play the game
You're almost there. It's the vendors who drive the prices up. They call it "supply and demand," I call it gouging where they can get away with it. S:P being Secret gives them an excuse to gouge, but even if it was Super, it would still be at least a $50 card guaranteed.
These are part of a different set which means it will have a different identifyer like RP1-001 or something like that. They are different then the originals which arent getting devalued at all.
Meh anything to screw the "investors". Keep in mind that the secondary market does nothing for players or for Konami. If someone wanted to screw over players by buying as much of the short prints and chase cards as they can, they can absolutely do so. That said, I still don't understand the point of this product.
This is yugi's year. We had manga yugi stuff, yugi's grandpa deck, yugi's rival support and yugi and yugi's rival on the tins alongside this retro pack with yugi on the cover.
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God, we need a new anime asap
something something goat format
GOAT Format intensifies!
I hope is to stop yugioh "investors" who only up the price for collectors and players
As an old school collector: I'm happy they are reprinting this whole game 😂, people don't deserve to make money with yugioh cards, which is what konami is thinking 🎉
Yugioh really needs to do what other games are doing. Make super low rarities and stop limiting more than 2 cards to super exclusive rare slots.
They should really focus on reprinting all of yugioh and yugioh gx sets as most of them haven't been reprinted recently
Strike of Neos reprint when?
I want an Air Neos reprint and I'll never get it!
im hyped for retro pack reprint
Im playing a kids in bikes tabletop game. It takes palce in 2003 and my character really like yu gi oh he has the starter decks for kiba, yugi, and Joey as of last session
It got the classic layout, that's enough for me to buy it
Wait!!! Penguins soldier might have psct now right?
Goat format players
It's for me lol. Someone who hasn't been into yugioh since ye olden times but still likes opening packs every once in a while just for funsies. Opening one of these the other day was a great blast of nostalgia
I used to play YuGiOh A LOT when it first came out and let me tell you, it was INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING... Every single good card that was rare ended up easily accessible in a starter deck and all my hard work to get an exclusive deck was for nothing. Making everything accessible made it pointless to try and keep up, just wait a few months and all the cards you work hard to get will be a few bucks away in a promo.
So its an Edison GOAT format players thing i guess???
Someone like me that is a retro casual semi collecter. My first decks where pure jank. Started with exodia moved upto gate guardian because I've been waiting for a retrain but honestly expected ritual support rather than fusion as there's no reason to actually run the original in new but I digress. Then made dark magician, red eyes burn, skull servant, millennium eyes restrict, thunder dragon and most recently mementos and yes I'm calling them that because it's easier.
FAQ'S
No I really don't run ash or max C I occasionally run some hand trap counters that may or may not let me steal a monster or draw 2.
No I don't win that often and my highest rank is plat 3.
Yes I am aware that I should be running 3 x ash to stop my opponent playing the game but I prefer when the game was about what you could do rather than what you can stop your opponent doing straight into a concede.
Yes I do run stuff like cobra and chaos angel but also feather duster MR and Raigeki and I'm not blind to the modern meta but I find it more fun to make 60 card retro theme decks and find uses for stuff like The Giltia retrain that I SWEAR is gonna get better when they unban dragoon xD however if that happens I have a nasty red eyes burn exodia otk I wanna try and make lol.
Just give me my damned Morphtronics!!!! I just wanna be happy lol
It is a day ending in Y, which means Konami must have done another boneheaded thing, desperately screaming “we don’t want to keep doing this, please let the game die”.
Lmfao You think this game has a chance to die? 25 years in and you think it'll die? Come on.
I pulled a Blue-Eyes White Dragon from the set, so I think it was worth it.
Reprints and accessibility are worth more than collections
My boy look like a young Peter griffin
its for people like me WHO DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT COMPETITIVE
Konami is a real one for dropping this for my b day 🥂
Me, someone who doesn’t want to pay 1000 for a single card
its for old school fans who actually grew up with the anime and played the game back in elementary school like me
A new selling of classic old cards could make the game feel easier for new people to get into
The retro pack is great for casual players like me and my friends. Who enjoy all the old cards but dont have a lot of them.
I've always wanted to get retro packs but couldn't afford them. I'm going to buy as much as i can. Might not be that much because my mortgage is really expensive, but it'll make me happy to open a few of them