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The evolution of Dreamcatcher and their sound
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
- Dreamcatcher are often praised for having a signature sound and daring to be different - and for good reason! Today we're diving into Dreamcatcher's discography and breaking down Leez & Ollounder's style - Dreamcatcher's production and songwriting duo largely responsible for their signature sound.
We will discuss how Dreamcatcher's sound has evolved since their debut, paying close attention to the elements they keep all across their discography as well as the changes they have gone through.
We're looking at how Dreamcatcher's melodies are constructed as well as the ways they use harmony. We are also breaking down a core concept in songwriting - tension and release - and explaining how Dreamcatcher make perfect use of it.
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Leez and Ollounder the underrated genius music producer duo in K-Pop. They keep experimenting new sound and style in music with passion, not just for the sake of entertainment.
Totally! They’re some of our favourite producers in K-Pop right now
and the fact how they stepped on different sounds but still has that core element to it! mindblown! i just realized lately how Scream, BOCA, and Odd Eye has that mechanical theme or technological sound to it knowing that the trilogy is about cyber bullying which happens in the media. and now with MAISON & VISION it sounds industrial relating to the environmental concept of the trilogy
@@nanachi1789 WAIT WHAT THAT'S SO COOL
Considering how much of Dreamcatcher's titles tracks have overarching stories and narratives, it totally makes sense they would stick to patterns for those eras! Very cool to see it laid out.
Yess for sure!
Silent Night would be a great example of changing in style and tempo that works perfectly that I've never heard in any other music.
Silent night is for sure a very interesting song, a lot of their b-sides are actually very interesting and spicy 😊
About the change in style and tempo, I'd recommend two other songs: 'Rising Sun' by tvxq and 'Bada Boom' by Solar and Moonbyul(though this one is more of a tempo change)
They don't change, they just evolve. Can't wait what other mix-ups they will do in the future. I hope they dive with psychedelic elements of rock or maybe a hard roots-rock reggae.
They never stop growing indeed! We’re also really excited for what they have in store for us 🙀
I'm all for a psychedelic rock DC song!
@@DanFloresII I think this is far from reality but I want a DC song about the effects of Illegal Drug Addiction and the genre of that song is psychedelic rock.
@@haringalikabok5642 oh that would be so cool! But there's more that can be done with that because it's not just illegal drugs. Intentionally misusing prescribed medications is also a huge problem that can be included in such a song.
@@DanFloresII And this misuse isn't always done by a patient, it's also those who overprescribe drugs, especially ones that enable certain receptors and lead to higher rates of addiction. E.g. the opioid crisis and the dependency issues people experience with pain management medications and sources.
I hope for the people who are crying for Chase Me sounds to be back would watch this video. Dreamcatcher WON'T stick with one style. They will keep change their sound every new era. Why did they do this? because this is one of secret ingredient to stay relevant. By changing sounds but at the same time keep the Dreamcatcher style, their music won't be "boring" or will be called as "recycled song" (just like what happened to Fly High backlash) . LEEZ and Ollounder are trying soo hard to change their sound without straying away from Dreamcatcher style and should be more appreciated more. 8:35 And i love how this video mention about the amazing vocal production. I've been noticed about their amazing vocal production since beginning but no one seems to realized it. Besides an amazing works from LEEZ and Ollounder, i think Dreamcatcher's amazing and diverse vocals what's makes Dreamcatcher's songs so good to listen to. Their vocals have it all from deep to high vocals from power to soft vocals. Anyways, i'm really glad that Dreamcatcher and everyone from DCC are consistently doing a good job. Their consistency led Dreamcatcher to climb the step one by one to the top. I hope Dreamcatcher will last long and this may sounds impossible but i hope Dreamcatcher would become one of the biggest kpop group side by side with huge group such as BLACKPINK or Twice
You’re right about their vocals being incredible - the songwriting is of course fantastic, but one also needs great skill to perform these songs and Dreamcatcher always deliver on that front!
I mean, it's OK for me to have gotten into the group for a certain sound and style and be kind of sad to see them move away from it slightly. I'm happy for them to evolve, I just personally prefer the old way. The rock genre has infinite variety; it could have been innovated on pretty much forever without needing to dip into the EDM elements they employ now. And what bothers me about that is that, while it is in many ways more advanced and sophisticated than what they were doing before (at least what they were doing before Piri), it's less far away from the kpop mainstream. Dreamcatcher then felt like musical insurgents defying the mainstream to make the music they wanted to make; Dreamcatcher now feels like just another kpop group - a very, very good one, to be sure, and definitely with their own unique style and sound, but still fitting into the normal paradigm of kpop, as opposed to shattering it at every turn.
I objectively think their songs are every bit as good for the most part - at least their title songs - but I still want the old sound back and I probably won't be able to shake that mentality. There was something truly exhilarating about the pure heaviness of something like Good Night that I just don't feel any more.
@@plasmakitten4261 if they stick with their old sound, they won't be as big right now. They started to get attention since Piri. And Piri is the start of combining rock with other genre. Then, their popularity growth is increasing rapidly since Scream. The combination between EDM and Rock grab so many fans. Lastly, Maison the song that got Dreamcatcher their first win. As a fan since debut, I'm really glad they turn into "typical" kpop group. It's really hurt to see them not getting recognition. I still remember in 2017-2018 i always afraid that they'll disbanded bcs their small popularity. Now, i don't have to. Their popularity kept increasing, the fanbase is strong and stable. And it's most likely they'll be together for a really long time and lastly, instead of them going back to Good Night, i prefer them to produce more variety genre of rock/metal instead such as Punk, Grunge, Thrash and many more since I'm a huge fan of rock
@@yuucola4145 i would argue that really blew up woth you and I
I kinda agree with all of the opinions here but I think, us insomnia, have always not only noticed the amazing vocals (in the beginning mostly yooh and siyeon, though i'm superhappy about the vocal evolution of all the members) but have always appreciated the vocal production and I personally, as a musician, have always loved the unique timbers' of the members and how well distributed the songs have become!!!
I've been waiting for this kind of serious, in-depth analysis of Dreamcatcher's sound for MONTHS.
THANK YOU for delivering.
Thank you so much! ☺️
Even for someone who have no idea about music theories like me, this breakdown is very simple and easy to understand. And yess... Dreamcatcher is built different than the rest of the K-pop groups. Dreamcatcher has this J-Rock influence in their music while the other simply doing girl-crush concept... that's why Dreamcatcher's concept is stand out a lot, and has became their signature sound
thank you so much! 😊
This will be added to my must-watch for new insomnias to Dreamcatcher.
Thank you! ☺️
As someone who knows nothing about music, this really open my eyes and such a wonderful analysis. I love it
Thank you! ☺️
Although I don't know the technicalities, I love them from finding them in Piri
I was hoping someone would make a video like this about Dreamcatcher. Thanks, this is a good breakdown of their music.
Thanks a lot! ☺️
I may not be musically literate. I dont know how to differ musical terms, melodies, etc. But ever since i discovered DC during Odd Eye, my Kpop world changed. I have listened to all of their 70+ songs. And i can surely say this analysis is correct. And it's why i don't listen to other kpop songs anymore. I just listen to DC every day.
They are just different. I love them. Good work..
Thank you, glad you liked the analysis 😊
Wonderful analysis! Loved how you gave a detailed explanation about the evolution of their sound
thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Love this breakdown and analysis so much. So much work going into this. Our ears enjoy Dreamcatcher's song but you guys shine a light on why we love it. Thanks.
Thank you for watching! This video was indeed quite a lot of work haha, but it seems like it was worth the effort 😊
1:30 Dramatic strings perfectly describes the string section in 'What'
4:18 Even before the example came, 'Deja Vu' was the first thing to come to my mind
Woah i just stumbled upon this video by accident and I am so glad that I did! I I have always wanted k-pop UA-cam channels to focus more on individual group discography and production elements this was perfectly what I was looking. for thank you so much for this brilliant video essay. Editing is top notch too. Thank you for appreciating Dream catcher and their producers Leez and Ollounder - my favourite producers in k-pop. EDENARY has only provin to be one of the most talented produces we have in kpop today. I would like to request you to do a similar video essay on another favourite group of mine, ATEEZ! I feel like there are many aspects of production that are never talk about regarding their discography and I would love to learn more about it.
thank you so much once again you earned a new subscriber!
One of us may or may not be a huge Ateez fan 👀 So maybe in the future we'll break their discography and Edenery down too 😁
@@serpentirismusic ateez present!! 🙌 I'm looking forward to it! Tysm ☺️
Wow this is top quality I loved how you guys put words and logic behind the things that I was hearing, KEEP UP
Thank you, we’re very happy you’re enjoying our content! ☺️
Such a high quality analysis👍👍,good job of course i will share this video
Thank you! 😊
What an amazing analysis of Dreamcatcher. I personally haven't noticed some of the details, you mentioned.
Also I'm so glad Leez and Ollounder are getting the hype they need, great video.
Thank you! Leez and Ollounder deserve so much praise honestly, certainly a very skilled duo ☺️
this is very cool and informative! y'all are great at illustrating your points with the clips you chose with the annotations, I wouldn't have minded more examples :)
Thank you for the feedback! We’ll make sure to add more examples in the future!
I love Dreamcatcher so much and the way you explained their music was very easy to follow! Thank you!
The fact that they're always willing to experiment with their sound and let it evolve while still keeping a sonic language that keeps them uniquely them makes being a fan so much fun! ^_^
Thank you, we’re glad you liked our video! 😊
Yessss they keep improving and still maintaining their core sounds and concepts and their popularity are stable
Yes, excited for what they do in the future!
I would want to see you analizing lovelyz's music identity, you know the heavy synths, with lots of strings arrangements and the clear 80s-90s jpop inspiration.
Thank you for the idea 😊
Dreamcatcher deserve more appreciation.
Great in depth analysis of the Phenomenon of Dreamcatcher, Leez and Ollounder!!! Nicely done!! Looking forward to more Dreamcatcher topics.
Thank you! Definitely hoping to do more in the future 😊
Great video--I now have a better understanding of what makes Dreamcatcher so awesome!
Thank you! ☺️
I loved the way you guys structured the video! The editing style with the switching parts of the two of you was just a joy to watch
Aw thank you so much! ☺️
A great presentation of the currently best K-Pop group in a long time - in my opinion. If I wasn't already following DC - your video would have piqued my interest. Thanks very much - Dankeschön.
Danke, es freut uns sehr, dass dir das Video gefallen hat! 😊
Really interesting even for me that does not understand much about technical music things, made me appreciate even more their songs 😊
thank you so much!
Wooah this video is so good such an in-depth and informative video I leann a lot form this
Thank you, we're really glad you're finding our videos helpful! 😊
Another good video to share to those who wants to learn more about Dreamcatcher's music!
Thank youu! Sounds like we succeeded with the goal we had in mind creating this video!
this is a good in-depth video on their music, hoping to see more videos!
Thank you, more coming very soon!
Now I want the same video about the B side tracks. 😁
Added it to our future video idea list!
Great video! I love how informative your channel is. Will you being doing these types of discography analysis for other groups? I kinda want to see one for (G)I-DLE.
Thank you! We’re certainly going to be covering more groups. We have one more Dreamcatcher video coming up next, and we’re covering (G)I-DLE right after!
@@serpentirismusic Sweet, I'll be looking out for them then :D
You are a Genius! You are amazing!
Aww, thank you! 🥹
Good analysis 👍 cant wait for more DC content!
thank you, more coming soon!
9:27 oh wow, the fact that maison and vision's chorus are actually similarly structured is blowing my mind. I actually favor vision, i had thought maison didnt have much of a punch for me, and that vision is "different"...but now that you point out the similarities, im having a crisis lol.
Haha, similar doesn’t mean the same! Sometimes a melody or even a whole song just speaks to us more. 😁
From what I noticed, Maison has more of that dramatic effect (that piano during the bridge is pretty good) while Vision is more rock or industrial (more on heavy guitars). Both of them have similarities and also have differences! I think another factor is the melodies and key signatures they used but I only know a little about music theory so I can't really explain it lmao
A really nice video analyzing their sound :) especially for me who's really curious about this things, so thank you for making this!
Speaking of patterns, I noticed there's also one during the Dystopia Trilogy (well technically only the two of it lol). In Scream and BOCA, the choruses mostly have instrumental in them, the pre-chorus is like the calm before the storm? (it slows down before it drops), and Dami and Gahyeon's rap verses back-to-back. But in Odd Eye, they did it differently with the chorus having more lines/singing, the pre-chorus being a build up, and only Dami rapping. Now I wonder if they're also going to do it in the Apocalypse Trilogy, so let's see!
Back to their sound, I also LOVE the piano and strings with the guitar rock sound. Hoping they will do more of it in the future. Anyway, thank you again for making this video :>
Thank you! ☺️ And well spotted about the prechorus! We actually touched a bit on this in our other Dreamcatcher video.
the editing in this vid is top tierrrr, LOVE the analysis, chills
Thanks a lot! 😊
Wow 😲 really beautiful video analysis, thank you so much for all this 🤘😊👍❤️❤️❤️
And thank you for supporting us! ☺️
@@serpentirismusic Ohhh no, nothing 😊❤️
I honestly have to disagree about where you divided the two eras. I would put the split at Scream instead of Piri since, as you mentioned, Deja Vu is much more in the old style, and while Piri definitely experiments with instrumentation a fair bit, it's still a guitar-first track fundamentally. Scream is the first title track to leave the rock world and venture into EDM, and while rock elements have come back many times, they haven't done a pure rock song as a title track since (excepting Endless Night, which ends the old era just as Scream begins the new one).
Thank you for your comment! This is certainly an interesting argument, and one we considered as well when making this video.
When it came to Piri, the devil was in the details for us. There are a lot of subtle elements in the instrumentation which seemed new for Dreamcatcher. Piri’s verse uses EDM drums in the verse while until now they had been using rock/live drums. The clap buildup we hear in the intro and prechorus are also something very typical for EDM buildups, but not something Dreamcatcher’s title tracks include at this point. We hear pads and arps which we are more used to hearing in electronic genres, so far they had been using pianos and strings. The little vocal chops in the chorus, and the whistle sample are also quite novel for their discography at this point.
This isn’t to say you’re wrong, however. Piri is still very guitar heavy and utilises dynamics in a similar way to their older tracks, just with some new instrument choices. Scream on the other hand takes these new sound choices and leans heavily into its EDM drop! The line is blurry and ultimately in the ear of the listener, so there are no “wrong opinions" here. And we absolutely would love a heavy Japanese comeback soon. 😁
thanks for the video. 🙏😁
Your explanation is very good, looks difficult but the explanation is very easy to understand. I learned a lot from this video.
And especially dreamcatcher is my favorite group, so using dreamcatcher songs for me makes it easier to digest the information you convey.
Thank you, very glad you enjoyed it 😊
This is Dreamcatcher!
😊
Wonderful analysis to their sound evolution! Great work!
Thank you! ☺️
Amazing analiz over the Dreamcatcher music, the amount of theory going on with DC music is insane they are not making only music they also making art, its amazing
Dreamcatcher are true artists for sure, and we love them for it!
good video yout two, well done. dreamcatcher kicks ass
Thank you! ☺️
Wow wonderful analysis
Thank you ☺
The analysis is informative yet easy to understand.
Thank you for a great video on Dreamcatcher's great music !!!!
And thank you for a great comment 😊
Wow, I learnt so much new things. The way you connected each songs throughout the sounds impressed me and also the part where you prove each your statement allows me to understand your video even better... Thank you for bringing lights to us. Totally appreciate this video
Thank you so much! ☺️
Wow!!!! What a great video!!
Your channel will grow very fast🔥
Thank you! 😁
First of all, I want to congratulate you on how good this video is, and I’m also very impressed that I see such an analysis video on Dreamcatcher🖤 I have been a fan ever since their debut, and have known them ever since MINX. However, I kind of feel like they’re in a limbo with their songs, starting from ‘Odd Eye’. I’m mainly reffering to the b-sides. While I don’t mind variety in an album, I do mind cohesiveness, and I feel like they lost that. When you look at ‘BEcause’ and ‘Maison’ it just feels like the b-sides are detached from the main title track and that really saddness me because you can tell that they are trying to appeal more to the general public (which I guess worked with ‘Maison’). Off their new album, I was very surprised with ‘Vision’ and ‘Fairytale’, I enjoyed them a lot. Hopefully, the last installment from the ‘Apocalypse’ era is gonna be even better. Also I need more japanese songs, I need the jrock and jmetal back from them.
We’re certainly overdue a Japanese comeback haha, hopefully we get one soon!
It's kinda funny, after Tree of Language came out I really didn't appreciate how good the bsides were. And then when Lose Myself came out I thought the album was their worst and I honestly still think that (although that's not saying much since this is Dreamcatcher we're talking about). So I kinda felt really bad about Dreamcatcher bsides overall and nothing from Road to Utopia or Summer Holiday was able to dissuade me from that, even though Odd Eye and BEcause were both bangers. Apocalypse Save Us was actually the album that brought back the old Dreamcatcher bside magic for me, and caused me to realize that it's really only Lose Myself that's as weak as I felt. I also realized that since 2020 I was coming down from the high of End of Nightmare and Raid of Dream, two of the most insanely good mini albums in kpop history, and my standards were probably too high even for Dreamcatcher. Because there was honestly no way they could have followed what they did in 2019. I'm kind of still sad about the turn away from heavy rock that started with Scream, but I objectively think their songs are still just as good. Except Lose Myself. Boca is overrated within the fandom and I will die on this hill lol. I def agree it would be nice to get more Japanese music, because while Eclipse didnt necessarily satisfy my longing for metal Dreamcatcher, another song in the style of Endless Night absolutely would.
@@plasmakitten4261 for me things started getting rocky with ‘road to utopia’. I dont mind them not doing the same genre of music, however, as i mentioned, the bsides just started to lack. Im really hoping that the next album is gonna be better and its gonna get them back on track. Also i wish they would collab with more japanese artists or be reffered for anime soundtracks, cause i think they would be a bigger hit in japan than korea. If only their company saw that as well…
Cool analysis of Dreamcatcher songs and sound! UA-cam recommended this video to me and I like it! Fighting!
Thank you! 😊
Wow!! This is such a well done video. Thank you, the music geek in me is glowing
Thanks! ☺️
Your channel needs more attention!Keep up with the great analysis!
Thank you! 😊
a great analysis on their discography 🎸 thank you for this🥹
You‘re welcome, thank you so much for watching 😌!
Love the video and very cool good analysis. Dreamcatcher signature sound
Thanks! 😊
great analysis for people who don’t know much about music theory but want to appreciate k-pop more! (it’s me, i’m people 😂) will you consider analyzing some of the genres of Dreamcatcher’s b-sides in the future?
Dreamcatcher have some amazing b-sides so maybe we should seriously consider it 🤔
Now THIS is a vid i needed to see for a very long time! Job well done guys, this was very informative and fun to watch, tysm!
Thank you so much! 😊
This should be heard by those people saying that their songs is all the same
True haha 😊
This was so well put together! I love it c:
Thank you! ☺️
I love dreamcatcher so muchhh
it amazing how the producers of dreamcatcher and ateez are the same :")
Your videos are amazing and needed! I'll support you and wish your channel a nice journey on UA-cam :)
Thank you so much! ☺️
Bahaha, nice intro :D
Thanks! 😌
Thanks for your video, it was really cool to watch! Dreamcatcher are just amazing
Thank you! 😊
Very nice video, well written, and super interesting.
Thanks a lot! 😊
Great observations! After years of listening to Dreamcatcher, your video helped even me notice some things I hadn't heard before in their songs.
Thank you 😊
Nice content. I really love DC with heavy rift guitars. 🔥🔥
Thank you! 😊
What an explain! The edit tho! 👍👏
Thank you so much! 😁
This video is amazing ❤
thank you so much! ☺️
This is such a good analysis and you should have more subscription 👍🏻
Thank you! We‘re just starting with this channel and are looking forward to doing many more videos 😊 Thanks for watching and subscribing 😌
Eu não entendo nada de música, mas amei o vídeo
Good job ✌🏻
Stan dreamcatcher
Muito obrigado! 🥹
The whole thing will easily get noisy if they mess up the vocal melody.
But fortunately they got great team of production. Been listening since Chase Me and almost every songs in their albums are in my playlist.
Yes, their production team is super skilled! 😊
love the editingg
Thanks! ☺️
Great explanation!
Thank you!
Wow this was really interesting thank you!💙
thank you! ☺️
¡Que buen análisis! 👏🏽💯
muchas gracias ☺️
this is such an interesting video! thank you for breaking it down in a simple manner 🤍
Thank you! ☺
+1 sub. Thank you this great analysis to my Queens, Dreamcatcher! ❣️
Thanksss!
One thing that really stick out to me is how their production team using storyline as their overarching theme. Before Dreamcatcher it's unusual for KPop to have story (it's much more common in the 4th gen tho). Usually they have some kind of vibe like Twice or Blackpink, but they don't have a clear story to deliver to their audience.
The MV, stage, costume, even their make-up is there to deliver the story to us.
The way they using a song to tell their their narrative reminds me to many of vocaloid song series, i.e. Daughter of Evil, or Children's Record.
Honestly, I kinda hope they comes back to their Chase Me era sounds once more in the future. Because, as much as I like that era, their voice at that time is not as strong as their Apocalypse era. I just hope to hear much more metal music from them with their best voice..
Here's hoping that LEEZ can still contribute now he's signed to Hi-Hat (apparently exclusively)...
I guess we’ll see soon
I loved the video!!
Glad you loved it 😊! Thanks for watching!
tysm for this video !
Learning all the things 🤔
Woah...
The words can't explain how i fell
Just 🤌
Thank youuu!
This is nice reference along side member guide video….. how to be insomnia 101 👌🏻👍🏻
Thanks 😊
I love this!
thanks 🥹
I love all DC song 😍
DREAMCATCHER and Dream Theater,,,yeaaah I get the sense of it haha
Haha, right??
Omg i loved this so much!
can you make a similar video for gfriend ??‼️
Good idea!
Anison, utaite, Japanese rock, vocaloid, jpop, etc.
Conclusion they r perfect
Hehe, they really are incredible!
Is it weird if i want them to try something ragaetton related😭
Boca has some elements of that but it’d very interesting to see them lean into the genre even more!
but Leez left DC Company :(
Hopefully he would still work with the girls!
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Dreamcatcher is the DREAM. The current top 3 exciting groups for me is Mamamoo, Dreamcatcher and G-Idle. They constantly creative, evolving and never boring. Kpop has become a bit stagnant because the powers that be are boring old farts (looking at SG, YG & JYP) who think they know what the audience wants to listen and watch. Placing importance on looks, visuals and choreography only and being too strict and controlling. That's why I am so disappointed with Blackpink right now.
“woke” song lyrics 😎
Ladies’Code would be the 2nd one.
No one else has got a unique VOCAL COLOURS quite like Ladies’Code.