Thanks for the awesome comparison videos for audio equipment. )) I'd really know how the Presonus Eris 3.5 perform in your room compared to the bigger brothers.
Listening with Audio-Technica (ATH-M30x): That's a hard one. I'd say the Presonus seem to be more detailed but still the little JBL stands it's ground. I prefer the JBL bass. Mids on the Presonus seem week, but it's cleaner and definitely better for mixing. Tough choice.
As with art in general, the most difficult question of all is "Which One is Better." Which is why no one dares to answer it with more than one word. The Presonus sound warmer and more smooth----but is that what you really want when you are mixing tracks (especially vocals, or percussion like tamborines, high-hat, etc. On the other-hand, it could be that the JBS's are TOO bright, which means the shine and sparkle that you had in your mix might disappear when you play it, say, in or car. SOLUTION: Use one Presonus on the left, and a one JBL speaker on the right!
You are never going to get the perfect speakers for all situations at this price point. For me, it simply comes down to aesthetics and desk space. I own both the JBL and the Presonus 4.5 by the way. For my own use, the JBL's work better and sound better. The frequency controls on the back of the Presonus make absolutely no difference in my situation. One thing to keep in mind. You cannot reasonably compare speakers through a UA-cam video. Not only is the audio compressed but a lot of what you are hearing depends entirely on what speakers or headphones you are listening to the video through. Your own equipment will colour the sound somewhat. There is no right or wrong here though. They are both good speakers for the money.
@@BigSmilezBeats The Presonus probably are clearer in that they don't add much to the sound. Which of course is what you want if you are mixing a track, however, I find the 104's give a truer representation of the sort of sounds that I put through them, which is mainly acoustic guitars. They maintain more of the richness of the sound whereas the Presonus thin everything out. I am not sure that helps you much? These things are mired in variables and what suits my particular situation may not suit someone else's so well. The best option is to get to a store and try and listen to them side by side running the same material through them. Or if that is not feasible, order from Amazon and test them in your own time. If they don't work for you, send them back and get something else?
Lo escuché con unos auriculares audiotechnica m40x, y creo que los presonus suenan menor, son más planos, pero los JBL parecen más reales y con mejor respuesta de graves... ! - I heard it with audiotechnica m40x headphones, and I think the presonus sound less, they are flatter, but the JBLs seem more real and with better bass response ...!
The Presonus has acoustic knobs on the back for the HF and LF to adjust accordingly. It can easily make up for the difference in any situation. I'm going with the Presonus Eris E4.5 on this one. But the JBLs do sound good and cost less...but for the $50...atleast for my applications....the Presonus are worth it. They both sound close enough.
This help a lot. At the beginning listen Presonus high frequencies, not good. Then come Man on fire, sounds quite awful from Presonus. JBL's thinner low end can be upgraded with sub later...if needed
Prefiero las voces y los bajos en el jbl, ademas la traduccion parece ser mas acertada con respecto al sonido orinal, y eso significa que la intepretacion es mas real y te permite escuchar como realmente se esta escuchando la musica que mezclas. El presonus cambio el sonido y terminarás compensando esa diferencia en tu mezcla para lograr los resultados que deseas. Asi que razones de fidelidad en la representacion del sondio me quedo con los JBL. Y SON MAS BARATOS! Creo que no hay mucho que pensar.
Presonus sounds a bit brighter because of lack of midranges, cymbals are too strong, sounds more detailed. JBL sounds flatter overall, with some overdoing on female voice and some frequencies in the trebles. Overall I think the JBL is flatter, Presonus is cleaner and more detailed. Anyway, both are pretty great speakers for their price and size. Hearing this on Philips shp9500 headphones.
Hello! It is clear that Presonus is not a studio monitor, it is Hi Fi, it "colors" the sound too much. Which monitor is more neutral, JBL 104 or M-audio bx4? I'm looking for a compact monitor for playing guitar.
JBL is more faithful to the original which is what you want in a studio monitor. Eris 4.5 reminds me of stereo speaker. Scooped. The concentric design here is worth the price of admission at this ridiculous price. Believe me, it helps especially in a near field. People "producing" rap or EDM aren't going to be able to tell the difference anyway. You might as well use stereo speakers or cheap headphones. Do you know how to choose or build a room? Do you know how to treat a room? Do you know how to EQ a room? Do you know why that might matter? If you don't, just use cheap headphones. It will cost you much less and produce superior results
@@dota2signature Nope - it 's the graph for the frequency response. For studio (mixing) purposes most composers aim for a flat frequency response at audio devices - which means that the graph should be as even as possible, so that the studio monitor speakers reproduce a neutral sound (within the highest possible audio resolution) to get a full, faithful/unaltered listening experience and something like a true picture of the composer's intentions. With a flat frequency sound reproduction, a faithful sound stage (panorama and depth reproduction) and an excellent audio resolution in your room you - as a composer - already know by ear how to mix your tracks correctly. So, you know how much bass, mids and trebles you may use at all points of the track, how far left or right the instruments have to be in the panorama, how much reverb or delay effects sound good in the mix or which samples or instruments sound great at certain points of the track.
Yes, i ordered both the Eris 4.5 and 3.5 and both have an audible hiss. It's manageable if you keep the speaker volume low and your source at max but it is there and quite annoying sometimes when it's really quiet.
Wow the jbl is so honest compared to the presonus the highs on the presonus are not true and flat at all compared to the original song the jbl is way closer and balanced I thought the lows would be weak compared to 4.5 presonus but the presonus has a lack of low as same as the jbl
Digital Stereophony how do you explain that 104 in this video (and at those vs CR4 or 305P or KRK) sound fantastic, while vs both Edifiers or T100 sound at least mediocre? I also noticed different Frequency Responses between their "good" perfpmance and their "bad". At their good perfomance, for e.g. their bass response is greater. Are the settings exactly the same???
JBL make the songs sound more "real", sweet to listen and with more soundstage. Oh, wait a second! The "Deep" original song sounds really bad on the bass punch and piano notes. On the JBL you can hear the echoing on the piano key and the bass sounds more controlled. The whole original tracks sound too much muddy in comparison with either JBL or Presonus.
For Music clearly the JBL! ... for mixering the Eris. The jbl has more Live and natural Sound. The Eris has an unnormal clearly sound perfekt for mixering but Musik no sorry.
Exactly Robert , me too have the same problem with JBL 104 , i am wondering Is this is a unit problem ? may be ,i don't know, as i see good review for JBL 104 all around .Any way i am looking to replace JBL with something better which have good or little more loudness.
Both speakers are good, seems the 104 has more Bass ( even boomy ? ) , but to me the last sample track shows off the clarity of both speakers is excellent
I prefer the 104 in this. The highs and mids sound more coherent with each other on the 104.
Thanks for the awesome comparison videos for audio equipment. ))
I'd really know how the Presonus Eris 3.5 perform in your room compared to the bigger brothers.
Listening with Audio-Technica (ATH-M30x): That's a hard one. I'd say the Presonus seem to be more detailed but still the little JBL stands it's ground. I prefer the JBL bass. Mids on the Presonus seem week, but it's cleaner and definitely better for mixing. Tough choice.
As with art in general, the most difficult question of all is "Which One is Better." Which is why no one dares to answer it with more than one word. The Presonus sound warmer and more smooth----but is that what you really want when you are mixing tracks (especially vocals, or percussion like tamborines, high-hat, etc. On the other-hand, it could be that the JBS's are TOO bright, which means the shine and sparkle that you had in your mix might disappear when you play it, say, in or car. SOLUTION: Use one Presonus on the left, and a one JBL speaker on the right!
You are never going to get the perfect speakers for all situations at this price point. For me, it simply comes down to aesthetics and desk space. I own both the JBL and the Presonus 4.5 by the way. For my own use, the JBL's work better and sound better. The frequency controls on the back of the Presonus make absolutely no difference in my situation. One thing to keep in mind. You cannot reasonably compare speakers through a UA-cam video. Not only is the audio compressed but a lot of what you are hearing depends entirely on what speakers or headphones you are listening to the video through. Your own equipment will colour the sound somewhat. There is no right or wrong here though. They are both good speakers for the money.
I have the 104s but these sound boomy to me. Are the Presonus any better in terms of clarity?
@@BigSmilezBeats The Presonus probably are clearer in that they don't add much to the sound. Which of course is what you want if you are mixing a track, however, I find the 104's give a truer representation of the sort of sounds that I put through them, which is mainly acoustic guitars. They maintain more of the richness of the sound whereas the Presonus thin everything out. I am not sure that helps you much? These things are mired in variables and what suits my particular situation may not suit someone else's so well. The best option is to get to a store and try and listen to them side by side running the same material through them. Or if that is not feasible, order from Amazon and test them in your own time. If they don't work for you, send them back and get something else?
@@yamahamusicians Thanks for replying.
Lo escuché con unos auriculares audiotechnica m40x, y creo que los presonus suenan menor, son más planos, pero los JBL parecen más reales y con mejor respuesta de graves... ! -
I heard it with audiotechnica m40x headphones, and I think the presonus sound less, they are flatter, but the JBLs seem more real and with better bass response ...!
You can control the bass response of the presonus with the onboard EQ on the back, which is why IMHO there is no better option in that price range.
The Presonus has acoustic knobs on the back for the HF and LF to adjust accordingly. It can easily make up for the difference in any situation. I'm going with the Presonus Eris E4.5 on this one. But the JBLs do sound good and cost less...but for the $50...atleast for my applications....the Presonus are worth it. They both sound close enough.
i love presonus
The JBL 104 series would be my 2nd choice next to the PreSonus 3.5/4.5 👍
This help a lot. At the beginning listen Presonus high frequencies, not good. Then come Man on fire, sounds quite awful from Presonus. JBL's thinner low end can be upgraded with sub later...if needed
thanks, now i know what my computer speakers sound like.
Prefiero las voces y los bajos en el jbl, ademas la traduccion parece ser mas acertada con respecto al sonido orinal, y eso significa que la intepretacion es mas real y te permite escuchar como realmente se esta escuchando la musica que mezclas. El presonus cambio el sonido y terminarás compensando esa diferencia en tu mezcla para lograr los resultados que deseas. Asi que razones de fidelidad en la representacion del sondio me quedo con los JBL. Y SON MAS BARATOS! Creo que no hay mucho que pensar.
En medios ? Cuál es mejor ?
Presonus sounds a bit brighter because of lack of midranges, cymbals are too strong, sounds more detailed.
JBL sounds flatter overall, with some overdoing on female voice and some frequencies in the trebles.
Overall I think the JBL is flatter, Presonus is cleaner and more detailed. Anyway, both are pretty great speakers for their price and size.
Hearing this on Philips shp9500 headphones.
what would you pick for playing house music at home?
@@JL-nk1pc I'd pick the PreSonus for dance music.
you can analyze the freq-resp for Microlab b77, and Presonus e3.5?
So which one is better!?
Hello! It is clear that Presonus is not a studio monitor, it is Hi Fi, it "colors" the sound too much. Which monitor is more neutral, JBL 104 or M-audio bx4? I'm looking for a compact monitor for playing guitar.
jbl.. look at audio science review site
Nice comparison. Have you had experience with the JBL C2P's, and if so, how would you describe the difference between those and the 104's?
JBL is more faithful to the original which is what you want in a studio monitor. Eris 4.5 reminds me of stereo speaker. Scooped. The concentric design here is worth the price of admission at this ridiculous price. Believe me, it helps especially in a near field. People "producing" rap or EDM aren't going to be able to tell the difference anyway. You might as well use stereo speakers or cheap headphones. Do you know how to choose or build a room? Do you know how to treat a room? Do you know how to EQ a room? Do you know why that might matter? If you don't, just use cheap headphones. It will cost you much less and produce superior results
-> 10:01
What the meaning is higher graph better
@@dota2signature Nope - it 's the graph for the frequency response.
For studio (mixing) purposes most composers aim for a flat frequency response at audio devices - which means that the graph should be as even as possible, so that the studio monitor speakers reproduce a neutral sound (within the highest possible audio resolution) to get a full, faithful/unaltered listening experience and something like a true picture of the composer's intentions.
With a flat frequency sound reproduction, a faithful sound stage (panorama and depth reproduction) and an excellent audio resolution in your room you - as a composer - already know by ear how to mix your tracks correctly.
So, you know how much bass, mids and trebles you may use at all points of the track, how far left or right the instruments have to be in the panorama, how much reverb or delay effects sound good in the mix or which samples or instruments sound great at certain points of the track.
@@Master.Mi.777 thanks you
Which one to you is better?
@@klpamei4663 Eris frequency looks better than 104's
eris more clear mid and high wide open.
Thank for making the video.awesome
Eris is not enough midrange. Jbl has unpleasant high frequencies.
@2:56 are you kidding? There's plenty of midrange there.. these are studio monitors not Hifi speakers
I heard clearer highs on the Presonus but jbl are incredibly good for the price and size...
Presonus sounds a lot better to my ears. Does the Eris E4.5 have an audible hiss?
Yes, i ordered both the Eris 4.5 and 3.5 and both have an audible hiss. It's manageable if you keep the speaker volume low and your source at max but it is there and quite annoying sometimes when it's really quiet.
Agree..more detailed.
here JBL sounds better than in comparison with ediffier. strange.
For electronic music production which one would be better?
Wow the jbl is so honest compared to the presonus the highs on the presonus are not true and flat at all compared to the original song the jbl is way closer and balanced I thought the lows would be weak compared to 4.5 presonus but the presonus has a lack of low as same as the jbl
Presonus Eris E5 vs kali 6 plz
but the listen the original track perfect, what to buy?
Look that little guys (JBL One Series 104) omg xd
Hm, I like Presonus more
Definitely Presonus Eris 4.5 shine through....
Thanx!!
Digital Stereophony how do you explain that 104 in this video (and at those vs CR4 or 305P or KRK) sound fantastic, while vs both Edifiers or T100 sound at least mediocre? I also noticed different Frequency Responses between their "good" perfpmance and their "bad". At their good perfomance, for e.g. their bass response is greater. Are the settings exactly the same???
estoy escuchando este video desde los presonus 4.5 xdxdxddd
I prefer the 104. More accurate.
JBL make the songs sound more "real", sweet to listen and with more soundstage.
Oh, wait a second! The "Deep" original song sounds really bad on the bass punch and piano notes.
On the JBL you can hear the echoing on the piano key and the bass sounds more controlled.
The whole original tracks sound too much muddy in comparison with either JBL or Presonus.
presonus It's better. it has a more versatile and lively sound
For Music clearly the JBL! ... for mixering the Eris. The jbl has more Live and natural Sound. The Eris has an unnormal clearly sound perfekt for mixering but Musik no sorry.
I choose monitors to create music in my home studio between Presonus Eris 4.5 and JBL 104, have you listened to Presonus? What could advise. Thanks!
For me E4.5 is more natural sounding and would be my choice
Даниииил
what band play "Man on fire" ?
Hi.
Can you tell me which has more bass between the two.??
jbl
Presonus
I am surprised JBL is actually performing very well
104 has a noise problem at big volume.
can you tell me please the name of that boom bap hip hop track ? (i mean artist and song name).
thanks in advance.
104 sounds bassier but in a drowned sort of way.
Are your JBL 104’s very soft compared to the eris?
How would you say the volume levels differ? I have the 104's but they're just not loud enough and I'm wondering if the Eris 4.5s are any louder.
Get a DAC/AMP, it will make them louder
@@TranceHistorian didn't even think of that, thanks, I'll remember that. I ended up replacing my JBLs with Kali LP-6 and I'm much happier
Exactly Robert , me too have the same problem with JBL 104 , i am wondering Is this is a unit problem ? may be ,i don't know, as i see good review for JBL 104 all around .Any way i am looking to replace JBL with something better which have good or little more loudness.
presonus es mas nitido el jbl es latoso por la caja
the PreSonus seems to be more balanced
kef lsx when?
hopefully never thats a channel for monitors not hyped "beatslike" speakers with a nightmare frequency response :P
I think presonus win
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Do these JBL OneSeries 104 have holographic imaging?
It images very well, but I would not call it holographic
@@DSAUDIOreview Do S2000Pro's have holographic imaging? Edifier have come out with S3000Pro's, have you got a chance to listen to them?
Both speakers are good, seems the 104 has more Bass ( even boomy ? ) , but to me the last sample track shows off the clarity of both speakers is excellent
m
2000Pro looking ugly