The Line 6 Catalyst is Surprisingly Good - I'm kind of Impressed
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
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This is still really surprising to me - I let a friend borrow the Catalyst for a few months, and yesterday ended up with it in a room with a Soldano SLO 100, a Fender Vibro Verb, a Marshall Bluesbreaker, a Diezel Einstein, and a Mesa Boogie F50....And while this seems odd to me, it sounds really good next to all of them....
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Gigging amp …of the future…or really not to sound cliche but the future is now on this thing.
Not a full gigging amp, unfortunately there is a big sound gap when switching channels. Also, while much closer than most SS amps, it does not move air or feel the pushback like a real tube amp does. It's not just about sound, it's about FEELING, which comes first in my book. That kinda matters to me, but it's not like I'd never gig with it, I'd just be doing it as a second to a tube combo, or when I just wanted to grab and go with no pedals.
Just like the Flextone Series. Sound is ok but build quality is thumbs DOWN!
I got mine the 60 watt version I’m really impressed. I’m so happy that Line 6 didn’t go crazy with the Gain.
The reason it's good is because Line 6 is more committed to engineering a good product with modern processes. It turns out that "just put the best components in it" isn't _actually_ the only way to get things to sound good. This has been known by automobile manufacturers for a long time, who have been snatching up DSP engineers for decades to try and make a 12 dollar set of speakers sound good. And yeah, I mean I have two Two Rocks and a Bartel and I think the HX Stomp plugged into a Catalyst is absolutely fine and certainly cheaper.
Hello, i have the catalyst too and I m not able to have a good metallica sound. I can use esternal overdrive like mxr 5150 on the clean channel ?
@@giacomorinaldi yes you can. It has an effects loop as well. You can also edit hte boost to be pre or post tone stack.
I just bought the 60 ...the best part of this amp is how quick you can dial in the tone you want. It has really responsive eq controls ...just start with one of the amps and between the dedicated boost and your normal gain and treb, bass, mid it takes a few tweeks to get what you are hearing in your head. No space ships and time warp sounds that you will never use just good sounding delays reverbs and modulation. Punchy and loud for a 1x12 open back. Great amp!!
I have the 200 watt version and it honestly does so much. It’s not just a clean and high gain channel, but everything in between. It just needs a channel switch and a few pedals and it’s the perfect set up for me!
Have the same and it has plenty of volume! Lol
I use a Catalyst 100 + HX Effects in 4CM, using HX Effects to change Catalyst presets and turn the boost on/off. Works great, sounds great, very versatile.
The intro tone (and also your phrasing) is amazing ❤ im realizing how simple is nowdays to get a decent tone out of cheap gear
The intro tone was fantastic. You could have said it was some boutique amp and no one would have argued with You. Good sounds good.
I’ve used a 50w Katana for years as a light weight pedal platform and it has worked well… I just ordered the Catalyst 60 to see if I like it as good or better… The FX Loop is not offered on the 50w Katana but is on the 60w Catalyst… This was the selling point for me… Enjoyed your review on the amp… It sounds great thanks from North Wilkesboro NC 🎶🎸🎵🤘🇺🇸
Hello from Ohio mate, I'm curious , how do you like your catalyst?
@@mrredritehandI like my Katana better
@@TG_Sealey_Entertainment
Alright then..thanks
Took the plunge and got the 100 a few weeks ago after watching a few of your videos. Specifically the ones where you compared/used as a frfr (I'd got the GX 100 about a week before and already had a HX FX) and using the HX as a midi controller.
Took it to jam with a bassist and drummer and it was plenty loud enough on 50w setting and sounded great. Using the HX FX as a midi controller essentially have me a 3 channel amp.
At home I plug the Boss in and noodle around on that.
I think it's a great piece of gear.
(Your channel is costing me a fortune!!)
I was shopping for a Divided by 13 cj11 until I listened to your video. Damn good. Rethinking what I want now.
Yes John, you're totally mental in the best way, and I feel lucky to have found your Channel years ago. 😎
As far as trying other Speakers, if you can't plug the Catalyst into a different Speaker Cab, it might be worth removing one from one of your other Cabs and trying it directly inside the Catalyst. That way, you'll have a better baseline to determine how much is the Amp and how much is the Speaker.
Man.... after trying a couple ways to amplify my HX Stomp I went and bought the Catalyst 60 and WOW... it has absolutely surpassed all my expectations.
Having tried this and the Katana I would say this just absolutely kicks its ass. Its not even close. Its so hard to get a bad sound of out this thing. The speaker is great, unlike most cheaper combos. I am so glad I got it, thank you for all your demos and stuff on the channel about it - it definitely helped me give it a shot and I am so glad I did.
I forgot to add that I've owned and tried many amps, I even have a great cab sitting here and I haven't thought once that I am missing anything... a speaker out would have been a nice addition but like I said, totally happy.
I’ve awitched entirely to a Catalyst 60 as my main gigging amp. Nearly all of the bands I play with are nearly silent stage (use some monitors, but essentially no amp sound) and the Catalyst has more than ample tone. Honestly, I replaced any of my normal amps, including my beloved Dr Z Maz, and an Iridium in favor of the Catalyst. As you say, John, ridiculously great tone for the money and with a cheap road case, more than sturdy enough
Impressive bang for the buck.
Since I have one, I hardly use my tubes like Matchless and Mesa. I bought it as a 'grab and go' amp for rehearsals. I put it on clean with some reverb and delay, rest is pedals. On stage I would still mike a tube amp but I might try going with the line 6 straight from the xlr into the PA.
It's funny how you can come back to a piece of gear after a long time and have a new perspective on it. I think your last review of it was one of the first videos of yours that I watched when I found your channel. Gorgeous playing as usual, sir.
I watch your videos daily, these tones are some of the best I heard. Micing that amp is really something it seems. I’d be curious to hear it direct with the stock simulated cabs/ IR’s.
Just been reading up on TGP - Sam Hwang of sound design at Line 6 says that they did actually do quite a bit of testing speakers, and that the models were kind of optimised for this speaker...So I might not bother changing it out....Still an EXT out for another cab could still be useful?
would be helpful to know the stock speaker specs; is it a guitar speaker or a FRFR speaker?
I have a pair of the short lived Celestion G12 Century Neo (not Vintage) guitar speakers which are very clear and loud:
Nominal diameter: 12 inch, 305mm
Power Rating: 80W
Nominal impedance: 8 or 16 Ohms
Sensitivity: 102dB
Chassis type: Pressed steel
Voice coil diameter: 1.75 inches, 44.5mm
Voice coil material: Round copper
Magnet type: Neo
Frequency range: 80-5000Hz
Resonance frequency, Fs: 85Hz
DC resistance, Re: 7 Ohms & 11.81 Ohms
Modeling amps have often had speakers that were optimized for them, Hell even Tech 21's better sounding iteration of their all-analog Trademark 60 amp originally had a custom made speaker that was expecting the fact that the SansAmp speaker "sim" was already in the signal path in the power section.
Just had the 60watt version delivered today. Very impressed! Loud, even on the 1/2 watt setting so I have no doubts it would keep up with a drummer. Essentially purchased as a practice amp but I can see myself gigging with it . Not deep dived it yet but straight out the box I was dialling in good tones. Well worth the money and probably needs to be judged on it’s own merit rather than a Katana rival.. Although I can understand why people would make those comparisons. If it’s this good now imagine a Catalyst Mk II or III. Also just sold my Pod HD500X. Never bonded with it and was beginning to think the modelling world wasn’t for me. Even though I’ve had a number of Boss, Zoom and Line 6 units over the years. Just picked up the Boss GX-100 in part based on your reviews. Boss has finally nailed it. So potentially a great sounding studio, practice, gigging rig for less than a grand, not including the guitars. Anyways, great playing John!
I’ve had the 60w version for a few months and jammed with a friend who was playing an ES335 through a Fender Deluxe Reverb. He was looking for a smaller (expensive and lighter) tube amp. After hearing and playing through my Catalyst he’s reconsidering. I also felt that the Catalyst didn’t sound inferior to his amp. My only wish is for a better system for on amp manipulation. Love your Catalyst presets. Are you planning to make some more?
I bought one months ago. Before that, I used to play on a couple of bands years ago and became molded by a fender hot rod tube amp. The line 6 was great, specially for the money but it was just different as far as "feel" vs tone to my ears. Due to that, I returned the line 6.
I love the catalyst. Sounds great, and the limited feature selection is like dumbed down HX stomp (sorta). Very liberating to be able to very quickly dial in and start playing.
That probably sound weird 😂
I got a Catalyst 100 when they came out, and it quickly replaced my Blues Jr as my "daily driver". Not only does the expanded I/O make it a better fit for me, but it is always easy for me to find a tone I like, and the power attenuation actually makes it usable at bedroom levels. The best part? I recently got a second one on sale for $330, and I now have a true stereo amp setup that sounds awesome for less than the cost of most "nice" amps!
The biggest issue with a real slo-100 is the master HAS to be around 6 or higher, which is devastating loud BUT the amp really blooms there, so it needs an attenuation of some sort. But when it’s there it’s terrific.
Got the 200 2x12 version. Absolutely love it. I love the chime amp with a few pedals.
For cleans and broken up tones I love the amp. For high gain metal, I’ll stick with my rockerverb. But this catalyst checks so many boxes
I use the Fender Mustang GTX 100 with a PodGo plugged into it and wow…modeling has come a long way since my old behringer fx amp. I can have basically any tone I want and it will be good. Impressive, indeed.
Best in class and better than many costing way more like the crazy priced Fender Tone Master series of amps. Perfect gig amp that doesn't need monthly payments. 🎸
I have heard good things about the Tonemaster amps, but not tried one - have to say the price compared to the Cat/Katana does seem aggressive, wonder if it's worth it though?
I've owned the Fender Tonemaster Deluxe and the Catalyst 60. I sold the Tonemaster after a year. It is remarkably true to the Fender sound. I parted ways with it because it absolutely choked on higher gain pedals. Once I heard that high gain rizz, I couldn't get it out of my head and began hearing it on low-gain pedals as well. If you want an amp for the roots-rock, Americana style thing, you can't go wrong with the Tonemaster Deluxe.
I've owned the Catalyst 60 for a few weeks now and have yet to plug a pedal into it or use it outside my house. I'm really happy with the clean and overdrive tones I get. The effects are great, as expected from Line 6. At roughly a third the price of the Tonemaster, I'm totally happy with the Catalyst. I'm looking forward to seeing how it reacts in a band situation.
@@edhalverson8639
Hey. Can the catalysts get those roots sounds too?
I like what I'm hearing. I guess i have to go play one for a while. Seems like a nice package. I was hoping for a head version to use my cans with. Maybe they will release one.
The clean, crunch and boutique settings will definitely give you great roots tones (I play the same myself). I have a 58 Custom Shop Les Paul and a G&L Legacy ASAT (tele) that have really hot pickups. I suggest starting with the gain dialled down on those settings and increasing it until you get to that "point of break-up" sound that works well for roots music. That's worked really well for me with those guitars. The boost button can be quite helpful as well.
There's a lot to play with, but the controls are really intuitive - just don't lose the card that shows what each of the effects are until you're familiar with the amp!
I have a couple of old tube amps and I'm really pleased with what I'm getting from the Catalyst. I should note, I owned a first-run Tone Master Deluxe as well. The Catalyst doesn't do that specific Fender sound as well as the TM Deluxe, but for less than a third the price it gets REALLY close and it includes other amp models and a slew of really useful effects.
You should certainly go play one. You won't be wasting your time.@@Phloored
I did the speaker swap with my Katana and I think it's really worth a try, it started to react and sound more like a conventional guitar amp. My usual problem with the factory speakers in a digital amp is that they a bit dull and missing some punch because of the flatter frequency curve, but the new speakers solved the problem. Try out a few speakers because in the Katana's case the Celestion V-Type worked the best somehow. BTW amazing playing, as always!
I use the Catalyst in my teaching studio and it’s pretty amazing- especially for the money
My Catalyst 100 is in an anvil case, it's gone on gigs and I know how flimsy the housing is, so I protect it =P wish it had more than the 2 FX, but I've been getting around it just fine. Added a midi foot controller for extra button pressing, pretty crazy what this thing can do!
I used a Hot Rod Deluxe for years, sold it a while back as I was mostly using my Helix direct and getting great results. However, I decided recently that I fancied having an amp again for certain situations. So I picked up a Catalyst, and I can honestly say it is superb and I'm not missing my HRD one bit. Also love the channel John, fantastic wisdom on Helix family products and always superb playing and tones! 🎸
I'm kind of impressed .... with your playing! and with the amp.
Maybe a more in-depth video on running a modeling unit into this amp will be helpful. I use the QC for all events at the moment. I have been interested in this amp since it’s release as a standalone amp and a room amp for the QC. Thanks!
I have a Matchless Chieftain. Vox AC15HW. Sundown Artist. Played many Boogies Marshall’s etc. This, coupled with my HX and Morningstar MIDI controller is a rock solid gigging amp. Light loud and versatile. And it sounds tremendous. Haters can continue breaking their backs. I’m a working musician and this is the shit.
Ah I'm glad to hear I'm not totally out of my tree on this, I honestly felt like it sounded really great in a room full of great amps....
Not remotely out of your tree. Once it’s pumped through a PA or blaring away in a room with a band, the subtleties are out the window. Do I record with it? No. Do I like playing it? Definitely. Is it gig friendly? Oh hell yes.
Your Intro Song Playing ist sooooo wonderful. In the first moment I thought hearing to Phil Keaggy. Thank you - thats what I want to learn :-)
This amp sounds pretty good in all of the vids I've seen. I'm very interested in the MIDI capability - the manual shows quite a number of parameters controllable by MIDI, so how about an analysis with something like the Mel Audio MIDI Commander which seems to have a lot of flexibility in a simple and affordable package?
Great vid today! I'd be curious to know how the Quad Cortex or the HX Stomp would sound into two of these for stereo. I have a Fender GTX 100 which sounds pretty good as a stand alone, all in one modeling amp. However, I don't like it as much for playing the QC and Stomp through it. I would like to try a Catalyst both as a stand alone amp and for playing the Stomp and QC through. I saw your video for using it with modelers. Looks interesting.
Check out the jensen 100w alnico blackbird or Celestion red for a possible replacement with high spl and vintage vibe.
The Hot Spring Reverb kills me. I settled for the Plate.
Bravo...that riff at 1:10 ......please if u can carry on with the speaker mod, will be very interesting
Yeah, that one was a real standout!
Hard to beat for the money. Have seen some comparing it to tube amps that cost 3 or 4 times as much. There isn't anything in this price range that is better.
I bought one instead of replacing my AC10 with an an AC15 because as I didn’t want the extra weight. I’ve A/B the AC10 to try and get a tonal match and it gets very close but simply cannot match the bottom end. I’ve been told this is because the Vox is closed back. I wonder whether there is any benefit to be had by closing the back up, or any issues doing this……..otherwise very impressed got mine for £199 with cover and footswitch!
Good video once again!
Currently, when I am playing live I plug my Helix in to the power amp of a Hot Rod Deluxe III and run XLR with a cab sim to the FOH. I am thinking about getting a line6 power cab+ but it is pretty expensive. Does the catalyst have a decent frfr mode? I figure since the 3.5 I would prefer using the cabs in the Helix instead of the ones in the PC+?
Or does the PC+ frfr stand out compared to the Catalyst?
What do you want it to sound like ? It has it's own sound mate. All amps do. The speakers are probably voiced for the tones anyway. They had to also leave room from upgrades in the future 🙂🤗🧐😬
I have heard amp-techs greatly deride the Line 6 Catalyst construction (including other similar amps), effectively dismissing them as throw-away amps that one should not expect to own or function beyond five years. In addition, quality amp models have now become ubiquitous even in entry-level products, and many are commonly available as free plug-ins. A recommendation therefore, should include balancing these factors, especially while considering build quality. Possibly, a modular rig featuring an entry-level modeler, class D pedal amp, and modest cab would provide superior value and flexibility. Cheers~
An entry level modeler would cost as much as the Catalyst, a Seymour Duncan Power Stage costs more, an Orange Pedal Baby costs just slightly less, and a cab is likely to cost almost as much as well? So you'd be looking at easily 2 or 3 times the cost?
@@johnnathancordy I admit, 60 watts for $300 dollars is tough to beat. If we were matching spec, finding a modern modeler featuring six amps can be had spanning Boss to Zoom for just $100. And a Harley Benton G112 Celestion V30 cab handling 60 watts is only $140. The problem occurs when attempting to source an affordable 60 watt guitar amp, as here the market seems to be sorely lacking. The market goes from a MOOER Baby Bomb 30 watt Micro Power AMP at $110, directly to an outrageous $400-500 price range for 100 watts, with nothing in between. One solution would be a powered PA speaker, such as the Alto TX310 350 watt 10-inch Powered Speaker at $170. That would leave $130 for the modeler. In any case, I think system alternatives could be achieved without exceeding the "2X and 3X the cost" concerns you expressed. I also believe a legitimate takeaway from these considerations is identifying the distinct marketplace need for more affordable pedal-based class D power amp options in the 50-60 watt range. Cheers~
I've been gigging a cat 100 for 6 months heavily. Been fine for me. I've had way more problematic amps than this including a victory v40 that would overheat after 2 hours of playing🤦♂️
Is the construction cheap? I'm sure it is but i also don't football kick it into the boot after gigs 😂
@@n8dawg85 Good deal you have had success with it. Most professionals however, would not risk gigging with a $300 amp. Here are some reference videos that discuss the common issues with this price-range of amps. Cheers~
Amps Under $500 | A Tech's Perspective | Part 1 of a Series
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Amps Under $1000 | A Tech's Perspective | Part 2 of a Series
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I've got one and while I find the tone to be quite good I do find it limiting in some ways. With a modeller like this, I would expect to use it on its own. I don't expect to use a pedal board with it. The Katana, for example fills this role.
With the Catalyst, it can only run one extra effect at a time which is pretty silly. More critically, however, there is NO WAY to put a compressor at the front - even using the one and only effect slot. That's a rather important and silly omission.
So, it can't be used as a stand alone unit and requires a pedal board or FX processor.
Given that it costs MORE than the Katana, these omissions are rather strange except to point out the obvious, that line 6 would love if you bought a helix to go along with it.
They have a few quirks, and I don't believe there has ever been a firmware update to address them. To me it has more character difference between models than the Katana. Very responsive / interactive tone controls. I was looking at some speakers I have lying around yesterday and thinking I should either add an extension jack or try some swapping. I haven't so far because I think it sounds decent as is.
How does it take pedals in front? I am looking for a combo amp for my dad (turning 70 in a few months) and he's not really one for built-in effects or wanting to deal with all that - the simplicity of stomps and knobs is paramount here, lol. I've had the Catalyst recommended to me, but I really have my reservations about it as a pedal platform. Desired signal chain wouldn't be too crazy - going for Jimi/SRV-ish sort of vibe, your standard old man stuff haha.
John mentioned swapping the speaker out. Do these amps come with a full range speaker designed for modeled output? Or would the way a “traditional” guitar amp speaker is EQd still be beneficial/suitable?
Hi John, have you ever compared the Line 6 catalyst against the Fender GTX and mustang amps ?
Are they all pretty good including Katana or is there a clear favourite for home or gigging use?
I use my Catalyst 100 as a power amp for my Helix LT and I never sounded that good ;) For live, I use it as my monitor and the FOH is feed with the catalyst’s XLR 🤘I tried Helix + IR + powered Cab, it was good but something was missing same when running it direct to the PA IMO
I had the 100, I thought it didn't cut through a mix very well
I don't have a Catalyst but the Boss Katana 100 watter is legit so I'm not surprised.
Absolutely sounds great, John do you think it will work together with the pod go???
Sounds awesome. I have a 60 watt Catalyst and it has definitely surprised me, especially since it’s so portable. It works really well with modelling pedals too. My Headrush pedalboard sounds surprisingly great on it. Which wattage Catalyst are you using in this video?
Has anyone gigged with one of these outdoors? If so, how did it hold up? Did it have enough headroom? Was it 60 or 100 (200?) watts? Thanks!
I’ve been exclusively using mine as power amp in for my stomp xl. After watching I realize I need to make a clean and boutique preset for use with a 2 button foot switch. If you have something to start from can you add it to the folder?
I was starting to wonder whether he realized Strats have bridge pickups.
How many of the 18 Delay, Modulation or Pitch/Filter effects can be active at the same time?
One at a time, pre or post-amp voicing.
Only one at a time?
Waiting for your Helix 3.5 video
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Please make a video of the catalyst with an upgraded speaker!
Wuuu you work that whammy bar! Are there lessons for that?
It would be a great "guitar lessons" amp if the effects section had the same knob as the amp models. I don't want to memorize or guess what effects I will get. And I certaintly don't want to use an app during lessons. I want to see a label on the amp.
But can it do the Spyder "insane" tone?
Have you ever tried a Revv D-20? I’m thinking of getting one would like to know your thoughts. Thanks!
i have the catalyst 60 and i like it. but how do you think it goes with pedals? when i use pedals with mine or just going to humbuckers the effs like reverb and delays get a little higher (i know u can put those effs before or after, but even then sounds not so good)...
I finally sold mine. The powercab 212 + is way more impressive with my stomp xl. A good giging amp however.
I mean, the power cab costs, what? Three times as much?
Have you push any pedals into it? How did it respond? You’re the freakin best btw. 🤟🏼
The only thing where this falls apart is...😂😂😂😂
Ugly, but sounds a lot better then I would have thought. Dynamic
any chance of releasing a set of CATALYST patches?
Dang need tabs on that intro
I bought the 200 and it's a bit much. Should have opted for the 100!
You play so good , you should be in a band like the Beagkels, Can I get an autograph of your's or maybe you can be in my band? No pay but we have a talent show for my 6th grade class this December
I bought the 200 yesterday and indeed it sounds surprisingly good - but when I plug the HX Stomp into the pwr amp input, it just sounds like hot garbage.
Any tips?
Hmm - let me experiment - are you leaving the cabs on?
I use a full amp model block instead of just a preamp block and leave out all cabs and IRs in the chain. My last block is a reverb and I can typically get a usable tone when using the Catalyst as power amp in.
I'm leaving the cabs out and everything else in.
Namely, Litigator preamp + delay + reverb + compressor + room reverb.
The resulting sound is muffled and boxy.
@@markokrstanovic3444 try the full Litigator amp block with the exact same settings. I tried to use the preamp blocks but didn't care for how it sounded.
@@markokrstanovic3444 like justin said, I like the ventoux into catalyst
Was that hoodie a present from your wife? Do you have to wear it?
Just replace the speaker into a cabinet that doesn’t fall apart and you’ve got yourself an amp thats only slightly worse than tube amps!!
We're not hearing a beta firmware update are we? :)
Had this amp. Didn't like it very much. I very much prefer the sound of my Vypyr 60. 🤷🏾♂️
So....Boss Katana or this?
Go compare features yourself and decide what suits you better.
This! I had a katana 50, then a katana 100 MK2, and then the catalyst 60. The catalyst blows the katana away on tone. The only thing that lets it down in comparison is the lack of effects, and the amount you can use at once. However, if you treat it more as a traditional type amp and use pedals to get the extra effects, then the catalyst is a much better amp!
Hey Cody, I actually did a comparison back along on the channel. The Katana is definitely MUCH louder if you need sheer volume, and has a much greater selection of effects. I marginally prefer the cleans of the Catalyst, but honestly the Katana sounded great next to it too
On arrival of the Katana’s, I ditched my valve stuff and have never looked back.
I’ve tried the Line 6, it’s fine but lacks the comprehensive effects offered by the Katana’s. 👍👍
but lets be honest, he could make a cardboard box with an 8" speaker sound good... lol
It sounds good recorded, but in the room... Just no.