Dude, your content is on another level. The research and care you put on this shows. Amazing video explaining every little detail. Keep up the great work!
I feel like Florida is perfect for train travel. Flat, lots of tourists who dont necessarily need cars while visiting, lots of elderly drivers. Yet Amtrak severely under-built in Florida. Gotta wonder why.
AMTRAK has to use rail tracks that don't belong to them hence they are at the mercy of the private Railroad companies to what tracks & what times they can have access. A trip from Orlando to Miami takes about 3-4 hours by car yet it's double that on AMTRAK because it has to meander through tracks to areas that are serviced by the freight companies. It isn't a direct route between both cities like Brightline will be.
@@xoxxobob61 No. What it is - an Amtrak train from Miami to Orlando has to stop in Tampa first. That's why it takes so long. There's very little freight traffic on CSX between South Florida and Orlando that interferes with Amtrak. Also, just as a note - Amtrak essentially owns CSX's A-Line from Orlando to Jacksonville.
The Brightline/SunRail/FL compromise, despite the higher cost and expanded construction schedule, is the optimal solution going forward. Disney and the big Orlando players (Universal/SeaWorld) all get direct rail access. Airport travelers get more reliable cheaper SunRail service to local destinations, and Brightline can directly serve FL residents traveling into Orlando from other major markets in Miami or Tampa.
@@cab8866 I'd bet that Disney is going to find a way to offer an expanded shuttle service of some kind to the resorts. Maybe even a Skyliner expansion if we can dream?!
@@cab8866 Disney springs already has a decent bus schedule. It won't be that hard to expand it to include the brightline system. Yes it will take a little longer but its much more easy for Disney to run instead of running the airport distance back and forth.
So I did read a article about a week ago when the news Broke that Universal is donating land to Brightline for a station as part of the deal. If that’s true that would be great
ya the i drive/ universal/ seaworld buisnesses are putting money up for the run. cause they all want it to pass through. and they see brightline going direct to disney via 417 as unfair.
Brayden, I've always enjoyed your videos and professionalism, even early on. So I wanted to compliment you on this video. Excellent information and well edited! Keep up the great work buddy!
Stunningly thorough investigation and reporting. Brayden rises to even higher levels of journalism than before, and that is truly saying something. Absolutely in a class by himself. We, as viewers, waited quite patiently for this report, and it was worth every minute of Brayden's research and production.
Thank you for your work sir. You are the best at covering this issue. Your depth of discussion, comparison video, and your timeline discussion is very helpful for me and my family.
No one gives us the TRULY important content like you do! Thanks for educating us, not just feeding the fandom blindly. I feel like an insider thanks to you!
Orlando resident here - the big reason why not many ride Sunrail is because it only has the one North/South route which doesn't address most commuters needs. And the other big reason? It doesn't run on weekends.
Brayden, I fully expect greatness for your future in journalism. When I think of the big corporate news outlets, I think you would be great there--BUT, then you would be forced to tell a complex story in 2 minutes. For a story like this which is JAM PACKED with well-researched information and amazing video, you need a full 15 minutes. I'm perplexed! What will your future bring? For the moment, I'm grateful you are here on UA-cam. Maybe this IS the best outlet for your work. Thanks for all you do, and all my best wishes to you as you continue to rock UA-cam!
Well said VV. This guy is pretty special. The diversity of his skillset is pretty impressive considering that he's doing ALL the work I think. Not sure, but I don't think he has production support.
This is incredibly helpful and I was just wondering about this. I have family in Miami and want to take my niece and nephew to Disney world. This could really help make that trip easier for everyone.
There's also the issue it doesn't run on weekends and have half-hour frequencies. Apparently, they're gonna boost it up to 15 minutes and possibly start weekend services after. The latter will most likely happen once the airport extension is open. It's rather odd they didn't try and plan to have services on the extension start the same day as Brightline will, it'll make it difficult for Brightline passengers to head further into Orlando and they'll have to use a bus to get further.
The number of stations surrounded by nothingness is certainly an issue. Makes it not worth the drive to the station. Brayden’s “Sunshine Corridor” shared trackage idea definitely seems like it’d serve the best interests of Brightline, SunRail, tourists, business travelers, Orlando, and Florida by having the train actually go legitimate places. It’d cost more in the short term, but is a much better driver of revenue than avoiding major places.
@@ecoRfan The thing is, the route Brightline is proposing to use would probably be good for SunRail rather than Brightline. Between MCO and Disney Springs, I see Brightline being a nonstop service between the two and SunRail acting as a local service. Also, I recently just heard that the station there is planning on using reverse branching there.
People seem to forget that the State of Florida put up most of the money to make SunRail possible but told the 4 Counties where it runs that they will have to foot the bill later on. SunRail operates on a freight railroad track so their route is determined where the tracks currently exist. There are no existing train tracks that lead to the Orlando Airport & they have to be built to make that connection.
@@xoxxobob61 This part of my point. They pulled the trigger on sunrail without the possibility of it being viable. It should have had tracks added to the airport when it opened. Now it is years into its life and it is hemoraging money. If light/medium/commuter rail is going to be viable, it needs to go between the points that riders NEED to go. in Orlando, the biggest points are the parks, the airport, the convention center area, The beaches, Busch gardens Tampa beaches.
As a resident of South Florida who hates driving, and loves Disney, I can't wait for the brightline to be finished!! Hopping on a train and going to different cities is such a fun day trip, it's what I used to do living in NJ, going into NYC for the day with friends!!
Fantastic update Brayden! For me here in Spain, flying to Miami is much cheaper than to Orlando and the option to take the train from Miami to Orlando is such great news!
Thanks Brayden for the informative update. There is so much potential for rail service in Florida. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I live near the Poinciana Sunrail station and always thought an extension from there through the woods right into World Drive would make so much sense on getting the local rail to Disney. It would help Sunrail out considerably with increasing ridership.
The level of care that was put into this video was felt. What was most impressive was your recommendation of the transportation route! That was gold alone.
Another great video, so well researched! Looks like we will have to look to other companies besides Disney to actually get things done right. In Walt’s day he would have built this railroad himself.
I checked the Wikipedia article for Brightline and it mentions a Jacksonville station under proposed stations for future expansion. So maybe you might get to see a Brightline train in Jacksonville after all.
I’ll keep saying this over and over, Quality vs Quantity. Your videos are getting to be works of art. I can appreciate your hard work and dedication that is evident with every video. When I see your videos I marvel at the narration and videography. When I see the daily vloggers, in comparison, I see lazy editing and entertaining content, but hey, cmon, no comparison. 😀
i hope this is successful, trains may not be safer than planes* but they're a hell of a lot safer than cars and IMO more enjoyable to travel on, getting more connections across the country would be great.
Yes a lot safer than cars specially with a number of car drivers texting while driving or drunk while driving or weaving while driving or driving without turn signals when they need to
Plains? Good luck with getting more connections across the country. The West Palm Beach to Orlando connection has taken over 10 years, not finished yet. You can take AmTrak from Miami to New York with stops in Fort Lauderdale , West Palm and Orlando if you enjoy trains and you are not in any hurry.
Brayden, there's one question that keeps coming up between my wife and I where this train from MCO to Disney Springs is concerned. What are folks expected to do once they get to Disney Springs to get to their resort hotel? Are they expecting them to drag their family and luggage onto the Disney World busses with all the other folks already engaged in their visit? Would their be a dedicated bus, monorail or other system to complete the journey to and from resorts on and off property? No vloggers reporting on the subject has touched on this, maybe in the next update?🤷🏼♂️
Yeah... as far as I can tell it's the Disney World buses. I think the days in which Disney seriously contemplated expanding the monorail are over--back in the 80s they thought about continuing the Epcot spur to what is now Disney Springs, but it never happened. They might consider expanding the Skyliner gondola network to Disney Springs, but that would be a big stretch and even so, that would only be useful for a few resorts.
@@MattMcIrvin can you imagine a skyway gondola full of a family and all their luggage?!? 🤣😂🤣 Personally, I could manage my one suitcase and backpack, but some groups bring copious amounts of stuff to WDW. I don't even think the Minnie Vans could keep people moving on peak travel days if that is part of the plan.
Likely they will have their own bus depot for the train. But we honestly haven't heard yet. I am also expecting to see a possible luggage service with this as well. It would be a little longer than taking it yourself, but without the hassle. heck, I could see Disney running a luggage system from the airport again but have the passengers use the train. The luggage was the easy part of the magical express system. Image flying into Orlando airport and not having to pick up your bag. Instead you board a train to Disney springs. Once you you arrive at Disney springs your vacation starts now. You can go anywhere. No need to head to your resort to dump luggage. You can check in using my Disney experience mobile app to see when your room is going to be ready, but you can either go straight to a park or take in a great restaurant at Disney springs. Even with magical express it took you just to your hotel and you would have to board a bus to go somewhere before your room was ready. This way you don't have to go to the resort until your room is ready if you don't want to.
Does anyone really think Disney is going to say "Good luck Chuck getting to your hotel" from a Brightline station. Disney has something like the 50th largest bus fleet in the US with more than 400 buses. They just don't drive it off their property. And how did everyone get to their hotel from MCO prior to 2005 when DME started? And why is it everyone has too much luggage to move around when you get to Orlando but are perfectly fine moving it aounrd their home, getting it to their airport and moving it around their home town airport?
CONGRATULATIONS BRADEN FOR THIS SUPERB PIECE OF REPORTING. I DOUBT SERIOUSLLY THAT ANY TV STATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA COULD HAVE DONE SUCH A STORY IN THE DETAIL THAT YOU DID.
After having visited Europe and Japan and seeing their train systems, I have always said we needed something like this in the US. It would remove a lot of cars from the roads.
@@ohboy2592 There are vast parts of the US, where population density is very comparable to Europe. Actually the population distribution is often _better_ suited for high speed rail in many areas of the US (large cities some 50-100 miles apart, compared to tons of small towns dotted all over central Europe where the trains cannot even reach their top speed before having to brake for the next stop).
I’ve traveled to Europe for both business and personal reasons the past 10 years and haven’t once rented a car. I taken trains in Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Austria and can say they are the best method of travel for both tourists and local. Been in Austria the most and have traveled to every major city by train. The trains are usually 80-90% capacity and there is plenty of local transportation such as cabs, Ubers, trams near the train stations to get where you need to go. There’s also walking as an option. The trains are also fully electrified. The Europeans love there cars as well but use trains a lot as fuel costs and parking availability may sway car use in some situations. Major cities such as Vienna and Munich have intra-city trains as well both above and below ground. I feel the US will never embrace trains travel until the price of owning and operating motor vehicles is cost prohibitive. But you have to build the train infrastructure first, then make owning vehicles more costly and therefore train travel the better choice for it to be self sustaining. Otherwise it will be subsidized with additional taxes and never used to its fullest extent.
Finally a reason to use sunrail! I never got why sunrail didn’t run from Jacksonville to Tampa through Orlando then there would be a reason to use the train it goes somewhere! I think sunrail should be forced to go through the center not brightline!
Brayden! Been missing you. Great video! I guess that's taken a lot of your time. I used to live on Oahu and the past 10+ years they've been trying to build a rail and it's a total disaster. Glad to see Florida can get the job done.
Technically, it wasn't "Florida" that got the job done. Rather, it was the private company (Brightline). If this had been left up to politicians, it never would have happened. In fact, the Republicans that run Florida canceled the Orlando to Tampa public high-speed rail line because they didn't think it was worth pursuing.
@Alex Daley Keep in mind Brightline’s efficient construction is largely funded by tax-exempt bonds, and the previously related freight railroad FEC gets a tremendous upgrade for free. Also, local governments are funding three new Brightline stations between Miami and West Palm, whereas nothing has been announced for stations between WPB and MCO. Some counties there sued to stop BL but may have changed their minds, now wanting a Brightline stop instead of stopping Brightline. More likely I guess the Space Coast area will go for it. Finally we need to consider the real estate development benefit to Brightline (railroad tradition! Florida tradition!) already in action, and the murky issue of who bought those bonds and made other investments among Tallahassee and local politicians. Permitting went pretty smoothly and the 528 was leased pretty easily. So BL is a net benefit to the public, very well run, but it’s not all squally clean. My hopes: it will endure even if it proves unprofitable on an operating basis; and it will inspire Amtrak to efficiency rather than being used as an ideological cudgel against Amtrak. Like they say, an empty highway is seen as a success, a train not so much. That needs to change.
Honestly, I not only wanna see Brightline build their line 'train to Disney,' but I wanna see them branch out and maybe build onto Jacksonville, and maybe even out of state into Georgia (where I live.)
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That's there plan once they build in Cocoa they said they want to see user data once orlando is completed and they cocoa and Jacksonville will happen too
Although the lack of rail isn't unique to Orlando it's a problem throughout America It does surprise me Disney never built one from the airport to WDW, I'd think that would have been a no brainer. But even though they didn't Orlando should have built a light rail to service the main attractions.
Walt's original plans for Disney World had an Airport where Celebration is now connected by Monorail. After EPCOT opened the Monorail was going to go to Disney Springs and possibly expanded to the Orlando International Airport. With Michael Eisner and Frank Wells those plans were cancelled.
@@johngilson3500 I feel like it was an opportunity lost. They could have started the Disney experience right from the Airport by whisking guests to WDW and back. It would have been and felt so seamless.
@@johngilson3500 That would have been a wonderful experience instead of the disjointed and multi-party transportation headache that exists now. I live in California near Anaheim. At one point in the 1950's, WEDWay was proposing a mass transit monorail system to the counties of LA and OC. I've seen a map where they were suggesting to put the monorail down the center medians of several major freeways (I-5 from Burbank to Anaheim for instance). They had beautiful drawings showing how major roads could include terminals for these monorail stations. The creatives at WED were phenomenally ahead of their time.
Walt Disney also told the city of Orlando that I4 needed to be six lanes going each direction and the leaders at the time basically laughed in his face now it’s basically a parking lot to get anywhere and it’s the only major road taking you north and south, A headache for tourists sure but a constant nightmare for locals
@@nikkisimms8075 The way we handle transportation in the US is just odd to me especially tourist destinations. You'd think we'd make it really easy to get around town but nope!
Amazing video about the Brightline and SunRail situation. The level of detail and production quality was top notch. You content is really taking a giant leap forward past most other WDW Content Creators. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Brayden! Excellent reporting and a very polished production! Half-assed is not in your idiom! This is a very interesting subject, and your coverage of it brings out the nuance and intrigue that is inherent to it! Bravo scout, bravo!
I've recently learned about and learned to love the idea of more passenger rail in the US. It's more efficient at moving people, it doesn't divide communities like a highway, and it's more environmentally friendly, which is increasingly important. While I applaud Brightline's efficiency, as a privately owned for profit company they're in the business of connecting destination that will bring revenue not communities. I would love to ride a train to Orlando or Miami, but I live in a town along the 160+ mile gap between Orlando and West Palm Brightline passes through. They say it themselves. They don't want to invest in the corridor passing Universal and Seaworld because they don't want to invest in something that costly. Conversely Sunrail has the exact opposite problem. it passes through a bunch of suburbs without connecting the destinations people actually want to go to. I believe the Sunrail/Brightline compromise would solve the profitability problem with Sunrail by adding in demand destinations and income from Brightline leasing out the rights to run on those tracks. It will also connecting communities farther South that Brightline stops at. Ideally one or both would also connect the UCF campus as well, but that's mostly just wishful thinking. Side Note: People like to bash Sunrail for not turning a profit, but the main goal in building infrastructure shouldn't be to make a profit. It should be to serve the people. Of course being profitable would be nice but that shouldn't be the priority. Besides I rarely hear people (outside of transit and rail enthusiasts) pointing out how much of a money pit highways are even with toles. When will people understand that adding more lanes doesn't reduce traffic due to induced demand. One of the best ways to reduce traffic is to give people other reliable options.
Excellent points! As a Miamian now living in Orlando do many Disney tourists know that their is a ACTUAL City of Orlando with a Downtown and nice neighborhoods too? I hope this Brightline/ SunRail connection will get some tourists to actually explore the rest of Orlando too.
First, I think you make a fair point about the gap in stations between WPB and Orlando. I think you just need to give it some time for Brightline to work and show it's value. They're adding stations in Aventura and Boca Raton which is a good sign. I think Brightline's main purpose right now is to directly connect South Florida and Orlando and show it can do it in an expeditiously way that has value for customers and can be profitable. Second, with SunRail I dont have issue with it not turning a profit, I question it's purpose. I don't understand commuter rail lines that don't connect to any significant places. Downtown Orlando is really it on that line. Connection to UCF sounds like it makes sense if it's feasible. However, any connection to the airport and tourist attractions makes the most sense. Third, I don't really always like the argument about how highways are money pits as a counter to the argument of non-profitable public rail passenger transit. The highways serve an incredibly important function as the backbone of our economy. But I do agree with giving people, especially in a large sprawling city, other reliable options than driving.
@@jirky015 I'm aware of the planned stops for Brightline but those are b/w Miami and West Palm and not along the section of track I was referring to. The fact that they don't even have plans to stop in places like Palm Bay with a population of over 120K and Port St. Lucie, the 7th largest city in the state, both of which have a larger population than West Palm, just doesn't make sense to me. I think we agree when it comes to Sunrail. It's main problem is that it doesn't connect to places people want to go. The proposed Sunrail/Brightline corridor through the city will give people destinations people want to go to which will make the system more sustainable. Finally, when I mention how much the state spends on roads I don't mean they should stop spending on them. I just use roads as a comparison of infrastructure that the state invests heavily into without a thought about profitability. I feel it is a fair comparison because they are both mostly funded by the government with similar uses, expenses, and construction timelines.
@@veenorelation4008 Respectfully, you missed my point. There were previously 3 main stations, bypassing other areas. Now there are two additional to fill in gaps for more ridership potential. Give it time, let Brightline prove it can be viable between South Florida and Orlando. That is the intention. When the time comes, I have no doubt they will make an additional station to serve the greater Space Coast. Also, Palm Beach County's population is twice that of Brevard County and St. Lucie County combined. I think it's kind of irrelevant to say Palm Bay and Port St. Lucie have a greater population when West Palm Beach's station serves the entirety of Palm Beach County and is connected to the greater South Florida metropolitan area. And I'm not saying they shouldn't build a station there in the future, but it's for the future, not now.
Have you ridden the Tri-rail? fast and efficient connects the Fort Lauderdale airport and the Miami airport. I have issues with the Fort Lauderdale airport bus as it doesn't stop at every terminal...long walks not for the disabled.
Keep in mind, hong Kong is also built to encourage rail usage. High fees and tolls for taxis and cars make using mass commuting options almost inevitable. Shame we love our cars too much for these trains to be more successful 😔
This is awesome news, as an occasional SunRail user it’s nice that a ticket to the airport (2 counties for me) would cost less than just parking at the airport! Also Orange County recently conducted a survey to gauge support for better transit, so I am VERY excited for the future of transit in Orlando. If the SunRail connection to idrive gets completed it will allow for huge amounts of people to get off of the roads, especially tourists who have no clue where they’re going.
I’m cancelling all my Disney related channels except yours tonight because I believe you to be much more straightforward and professional than most newsworks and definitely Disney!
Brayden your videos are so professional you do a great job at reporting Disney news I can always trust your journalism. Disney should hire you to create and direct some of their social media outlets.
How refreshing to see a video about Brightline that does not have comments turned off. No place else in the world operates high speed trains in urban areas without walls to keep pedestrians and animals off tracks plus overpasses instead of crossings. Brightline trains killed 59 people even when restricted to south Florida, the worst record of any railway!
What a great video. I appreciate the "before" and "after" updates that show the progress. The new trains and buildings are beautiful...and for those of us in other parts of the country (WI here) its nice to be able to see them. I think that if these trains could come on line faster (especially with the current costs of gasoline) it would greatly improve support. Years ago, I read that a parking structure alone costs something like $15,000 per stall. I bet that that number has greatly gone up. And, since land is at a premium and its hard to find space for parking lots in an urban setting, congestion on future roads along with rising gas prices is going to make this train option much better in America. Thanks again for the great aerial footage of the progress so far.
This was perfect! Thank you for the excellent reporting. I am super excited to see all of the angles. As a Disney fan from Ohio, the rail feels so much better than the mears connect option now that the express is gone.
I just rode the train for the first time from West Palm Beach to Fort Lauderdale. The trip was about 30 mins and cost $17 each way for coach (snacks and drinks for sale) or $27 for premium (which includes snacks and drinks 🍺 and a separate waiting area). As a bonus they will pick you up and drop you off for free…pretty cool. They dropped me off at the beach at Fort Lauderdale and I just took an Uber back. The staff were all very friendly and helpful and the train ran on time. Would definitely recommend using Brightline.
I live in Norfolk, VA. We have continually been part of the North East train corridor for well over a century. Its always there and it’s fascinating that do much of the country isn’t connected. Our trains travel to New York and Boston several times a day.
Here here Brayden! That was incredibly well done and super informative. Thank you so much for caring enough to keep us informed in such a insightful, easy to understand manner! Your hard work definitely shines through.
Wow what an amazingly put together video. As an orlando resident you really gave great context and explained well why things work out as they do. Great video.
That is a better idea to let Bright line do it's own thing and Sun Rail take advantage of the short hauls. I really like how you researched everything Brayden, this wouldn't make sense by anyone else. You have certainly done your homework and not to worry about the length of time with this update...its great that you are doing your best to get the news of this massive undertaking in Florida. Let's hope Disney and the other parks take advantage of this opportunity...and Disney changes their minds on the station that would really make a difference to them.
The BART system in Northern California is fantastic. It links the SF/Oakland/Bay Area communities & SFO. It even allows Central Valley commuters to do park & ride. This type of system would be very useful in the Orlando metro & surrounding communities, take pressure off the hiways.
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Who would’ve guessed that a Disney UA-camr would do a brightline construction update mor high quality and understandable than a lot of others
Certain people would have guessed that. /
The Roaming Railfan youtuber has completed numerous videos on all of Brightlines track extensions if you'd like to see the most details.
@@SMichaelDeHart i know, i watch them A L L the time
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I agree!
Dude, your content is on another level. The research and care you put on this shows. Amazing video explaining every little detail. Keep up the great work!
True!
I agree... I don't even live in Florida and I was interested in this.. great job!!
he makes a boring topic (to me) very interesting, I needed this guy teaching my college classes
I know, Brayden just doesn't report on news, he tries to suggests solutions that make both practical and financial sense! 👍🤗
So true
I feel like Florida is perfect for train travel. Flat, lots of tourists who dont necessarily need cars while visiting, lots of elderly drivers. Yet Amtrak severely under-built in Florida. Gotta wonder why.
There’s some younger drivers you don’t want to drive in stressful contested highway driving between major cities of Florida.!!!
Sinkholes and soft ground come to mind.
The state is run by old conservatives that have always been hostile to public transportation, especially rail.
AMTRAK has to use rail tracks that don't belong to them hence they are at the mercy of the private Railroad companies to what tracks & what times they can have access. A trip from Orlando to Miami takes about 3-4 hours by car yet it's double that on AMTRAK because it has to meander through tracks to areas that are serviced by the freight companies. It isn't a direct route between both cities like Brightline will be.
@@xoxxobob61 No. What it is - an Amtrak train from Miami to Orlando has to stop in Tampa first. That's why it takes so long. There's very little freight traffic on CSX between South Florida and Orlando that interferes with Amtrak. Also, just as a note - Amtrak essentially owns CSX's A-Line from Orlando to Jacksonville.
The Brightline/SunRail/FL compromise, despite the higher cost and expanded construction schedule, is the optimal solution going forward.
Disney and the big Orlando players (Universal/SeaWorld) all get direct rail access. Airport travelers get more reliable cheaper SunRail service to local destinations, and Brightline can directly serve FL residents traveling into Orlando from other major markets in Miami or Tampa.
cheaper than gas honestly
Still have to get yourself and luggage to your resort.
@@cab8866 I'd bet that Disney is going to find a way to offer an expanded shuttle service of some kind to the resorts. Maybe even a Skyliner expansion if we can dream?!
@@cab8866 Disney springs already has a decent bus schedule. It won't be that hard to expand it to include the brightline system. Yes it will take a little longer but its much more easy for Disney to run instead of running the airport distance back and forth.
Brightline needs to move forward with the southern route and Sun Rail can take their sweet time building the northern route.
Thanks!
I feel Disney and universal should contribute to this route to make it possible. It will only increase their business so it sounds like a no brainier!
So I did read a article about a week ago when the news Broke that Universal is donating land to Brightline for a station as part of the deal. If that’s true that would be great
@@CaptainJeau Yeah they should definitely work together in making this happen
He said they're giving money to bright line to build the rail into SeaWorld down to Disney as they are a major benefactor for the project.
ya the i drive/ universal/ seaworld buisnesses are putting money up for the run. cause they all want it to pass through. and they see brightline going direct to disney via 417 as unfair.
The problem is Disney's already at capacity so why would they care?
Brayden, I've always enjoyed your videos and professionalism, even early on. So I wanted to compliment you on this video. Excellent information and well edited! Keep up the great work buddy!
Stunningly thorough investigation and reporting. Brayden rises to even higher levels of journalism than before, and that is truly saying something. Absolutely in a class by himself. We, as viewers, waited quite patiently for this report, and it was worth every minute of Brayden's research and production.
Hear here!
Your work is amazing Brayden. Thanks for the great update; very exciting things coming to Florida. As always, you rocked it!
I must agree! You do amazing work, start to finish!
I agree too...great work Braydon..as always
Thank you for your work sir. You are the best at covering this issue. Your depth of discussion, comparison video, and your timeline discussion is very helpful for me and my family.
Walt Disney loved trains and monorails so it seems so on brand to take a train to Disney!
You’d think WDW would build a monorail from the airport to its resort.
@@kenc2707 or even a people mover
If stomach cancer hadn't killed WD so young, there might have been a train or any number of interesting projects. He was a visionary....
@@brigidconroy2111 actually it was his chain smoking that killed him
Regardless of that, I would have loved to see what train designs and railroad ideas Walt would have come up with.
No one gives us the TRULY important content like you do! Thanks for educating us, not just feeding the fandom blindly. I feel like an insider thanks to you!
I love the idea of going from the Orlando airport to Miami, that would be a great way to get to a cruise . Not having to drive the Florida turnpike.
Orlando resident here - the big reason why not many ride Sunrail is because it only has the one North/South route which doesn't address most commuters needs. And the other big reason?
It doesn't run on weekends.
Brayden, I fully expect greatness for your future in journalism. When I think of the big corporate news outlets, I think you would be great there--BUT, then you would be forced to tell a complex story in 2 minutes. For a story like this which is JAM PACKED with well-researched information and amazing video, you need a full 15 minutes. I'm perplexed! What will your future bring? For the moment, I'm grateful you are here on UA-cam. Maybe this IS the best outlet for your work. Thanks for all you do, and all my best wishes to you as you continue to rock UA-cam!
Well said VV. This guy is pretty special. The diversity of his skillset is pretty impressive considering that he's doing ALL the work I think. Not sure, but I don't think he has production support.
This is incredibly helpful and I was just wondering about this. I have family in Miami and want to take my niece and nephew to Disney world. This could really help make that trip easier for everyone.
This is hands-down the best WDW news channel out there.
The problem with SunRail is it goes from nowhere to nowhere. If it had gone to the airport, It might have been useful.
There's also the issue it doesn't run on weekends and have half-hour frequencies. Apparently, they're gonna boost it up to 15 minutes and possibly start weekend services after. The latter will most likely happen once the airport extension is open. It's rather odd they didn't try and plan to have services on the extension start the same day as Brightline will, it'll make it difficult for Brightline passengers to head further into Orlando and they'll have to use a bus to get further.
The number of stations surrounded by nothingness is certainly an issue. Makes it not worth the drive to the station. Brayden’s “Sunshine Corridor” shared trackage idea definitely seems like it’d serve the best interests of Brightline, SunRail, tourists, business travelers, Orlando, and Florida by having the train actually go legitimate places. It’d cost more in the short term, but is a much better driver of revenue than avoiding major places.
@@ecoRfan The thing is, the route Brightline is proposing to use would probably be good for SunRail rather than Brightline. Between MCO and Disney Springs, I see Brightline being a nonstop service between the two and SunRail acting as a local service. Also, I recently just heard that the station there is planning on using reverse branching there.
People seem to forget that the State of Florida put up most of the money to make SunRail possible but told the 4 Counties where it runs that they will have to foot the bill later on. SunRail operates on a freight railroad track so their route is determined where the tracks currently exist. There are no existing train tracks that lead to the Orlando Airport & they have to be built to make that connection.
@@xoxxobob61 This part of my point. They pulled the trigger on sunrail without the possibility of it being viable. It should have had tracks added to the airport when it opened. Now it is years into its life and it is hemoraging money. If light/medium/commuter rail is going to be viable, it needs to go between the points that riders NEED to go. in Orlando, the biggest points are the parks, the airport, the convention center area, The beaches, Busch gardens Tampa beaches.
Every video you make goes into an always-unexpected level of depth
“Not only have gas prices gone up, but so has this new right-of-way!” 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The quality of this video is super impressive! You delivered a gem
As a resident of South Florida who hates driving, and loves Disney, I can't wait for the brightline to be finished!! Hopping on a train and going to different cities is such a fun day trip, it's what I used to do living in NJ, going into NYC for the day with friends!!
Fantastic update Brayden! For me here in Spain, flying to Miami is much cheaper than to Orlando and the option to take the train from Miami to Orlando is such great news!
Brightline is expected to open in 2023 between Miami & Orlando and it really will be better than driving!
Thanks Brayden for the informative update. There is so much potential for rail service in Florida. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. I live near the Poinciana Sunrail station and always thought an extension from there through the woods right into World Drive would make so much sense on getting the local rail to Disney. It would help Sunrail out considerably with increasing ridership.
Sunrail as a way for short trips seems to make sense, including from MCO to theme parks. That route would certainly improve farebox recovery.
Seconded
Amazing Brayden! Thank you for covering this topic. I live in south Florida and can’t wait to take the train to Orlando vs driving.
A round of applause for the amount of work done to produce this video. Bravo!
This is innovative, revolutionary, modern! FL needs this service.
The way you explain issues is fantastic. Makes it so easy to understand
Wow what a great video you explain the whole situation where anyone could understand it I really see your true calling in Transportation documentaries
The level of care that was put into this video was felt. What was most impressive was your recommendation of the transportation route! That was gold alone.
As my wife said while watching your video, this is where you really shine. Great presentation.
Another great video, so well researched! Looks like we will have to look to other companies besides Disney to actually get things done right. In Walt’s day he would have built this railroad himself.
Thanks for laying all that out with graphics, great job
Would love to see the Brightline extended north to Jacksonville through Gainesville.
I checked the Wikipedia article for Brightline and it mentions a Jacksonville station under proposed stations for future expansion. So maybe you might get to see a Brightline train in Jacksonville after all.
The East Coast would be more likely, with stops in Daytona and St Augustine. But an extension to Gainesville does sound nice.
I’ll keep saying this over and over, Quality vs Quantity. Your videos are getting to be works of art. I can appreciate your hard work and dedication that is evident with every video. When I see your videos I marvel at the narration and videography. When I see the daily vloggers, in comparison, I see lazy editing and entertaining content, but hey, cmon, no comparison. 😀
Most true!
i hope this is successful, trains may not be safer than planes* but they're a hell of a lot safer than cars and IMO more enjoyable to travel on, getting more connections across the country would be great.
Yes a lot safer than cars specially with a number of car drivers texting while driving or drunk while driving or weaving while driving or driving without turn signals when they need to
All the tourists packing the roads and increasing crash rates is def not fair to locals. Hope this helps with that!
Plains? Good luck with getting more connections across the country. The West Palm Beach to Orlando connection has taken over 10 years, not finished yet. You can take AmTrak from Miami to New York with stops in Fort Lauderdale , West Palm and Orlando if you enjoy trains and you are not in any hurry.
I disagree. "Plains" are very safe because you are not in any form of transport whatsoever.
What a great video! You made a very complex situation very easy to understand. This was a amazing piece of work. Thank you.
Awesome Job! Also appreciate you uploading this in a higher resolution.
FANTASTIC video Brandon!! Great Work!
Brayden, there's one question that keeps coming up between my wife and I where this train from MCO to Disney Springs is concerned.
What are folks expected to do once they get to Disney Springs to get to their resort hotel? Are they expecting them to drag their family and luggage onto the Disney World busses with all the other folks already engaged in their visit? Would their be a dedicated bus, monorail or other system to complete the journey to and from resorts on and off property?
No vloggers reporting on the subject has touched on this, maybe in the next update?🤷🏼♂️
Yeah... as far as I can tell it's the Disney World buses. I think the days in which Disney seriously contemplated expanding the monorail are over--back in the 80s they thought about continuing the Epcot spur to what is now Disney Springs, but it never happened. They might consider expanding the Skyliner gondola network to Disney Springs, but that would be a big stretch and even so, that would only be useful for a few resorts.
@@MattMcIrvin can you imagine a skyway gondola full of a family and all their luggage?!? 🤣😂🤣
Personally, I could manage my one suitcase and backpack, but some groups bring copious amounts of stuff to WDW. I don't even think the Minnie Vans could keep people moving on peak travel days if that is part of the plan.
Likely they will have their own bus depot for the train. But we honestly haven't heard yet. I am also expecting to see a possible luggage service with this as well. It would be a little longer than taking it yourself, but without the hassle. heck, I could see Disney running a luggage system from the airport again but have the passengers use the train. The luggage was the easy part of the magical express system.
Image flying into Orlando airport and not having to pick up your bag. Instead you board a train to Disney springs. Once you you arrive at Disney springs your vacation starts now. You can go anywhere. No need to head to your resort to dump luggage. You can check in using my Disney experience mobile app to see when your room is going to be ready, but you can either go straight to a park or take in a great restaurant at Disney springs. Even with magical express it took you just to your hotel and you would have to board a bus to go somewhere before your room was ready. This way you don't have to go to the resort until your room is ready if you don't want to.
Does anyone really think Disney is going to say "Good luck Chuck getting to your hotel" from a Brightline station. Disney has something like the 50th largest bus fleet in the US with more than 400 buses. They just don't drive it off their property. And how did everyone get to their hotel from MCO prior to 2005 when DME started?
And why is it everyone has too much luggage to move around when you get to Orlando but are perfectly fine moving it aounrd their home, getting it to their airport and moving it around their home town airport?
You can’t take luggage onto Disney busses. The ones that go from the resorts to the parks.
Great video! Brayden you are immensely talented!
Thank youuuuuuuu love the bright line update! High quality work here! :)
CONGRATULATIONS BRADEN FOR THIS SUPERB PIECE OF REPORTING. I DOUBT SERIOUSLLY THAT ANY TV STATION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA COULD HAVE DONE SUCH A STORY IN THE DETAIL THAT YOU DID.
After having visited Europe and Japan and seeing their train systems, I have always said we needed something like this in the US. It would remove a lot of cars from the roads.
We are too spread out for service like that unless you want your taxes going up by 15-30%
@@ohboy2592 There are vast parts of the US, where population density is very comparable to Europe.
Actually the population distribution is often _better_ suited for high speed rail in many areas of the US (large cities some 50-100 miles apart, compared to tons of small towns dotted all over central Europe where the trains cannot even reach their top speed before having to brake for the next stop).
I’ve traveled to Europe for both business and personal reasons the past 10 years and haven’t once rented a car. I taken trains in Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Austria and can say they are the best method of travel for both tourists and local. Been in Austria the most and have traveled to every major city by train. The trains are usually 80-90% capacity and there is plenty of local transportation such as cabs, Ubers, trams near the train stations to get where you need to go. There’s also walking as an option. The trains are also fully electrified. The Europeans love there cars as well but use trains a lot as fuel costs and parking availability may sway car use in some situations. Major cities such as Vienna and Munich have intra-city trains as well both above and below ground. I feel the US will never embrace trains travel until the price of owning and operating motor vehicles is cost prohibitive. But you have to build the train infrastructure first, then make owning vehicles more costly and therefore train travel the better choice for it to be self sustaining. Otherwise it will be subsidized with additional taxes and never used to its fullest extent.
Your attention to detail and your constant hard work never goes unnoticed by all of us! Great job
Thanks for the video! I always recommend your channel to anyone I come across that mentions Disney!
Brayden,
I have missed you. Thank you for the new train update.
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Finally a reason to use sunrail! I never got why sunrail didn’t run from Jacksonville to Tampa through Orlando then there would be a reason to use the train it goes somewhere! I think sunrail should be forced to go through the center not brightline!
Brayden! Been missing you. Great video! I guess that's taken a lot of your time. I used to live on Oahu and the past 10+ years they've been trying to build a rail and it's a total disaster. Glad to see Florida can get the job done.
Technically, it wasn't "Florida" that got the job done. Rather, it was the private company (Brightline). If this had been left up to politicians, it never would have happened. In fact, the Republicans that run Florida canceled the Orlando to Tampa public high-speed rail line because they didn't think it was worth pursuing.
@@alexdaley7616 That’s true!
@Alex Daley Keep in mind Brightline’s efficient construction is largely funded by tax-exempt bonds, and the previously related freight railroad FEC gets a tremendous upgrade for free. Also, local governments are funding three new Brightline stations between Miami and West Palm, whereas nothing has been announced for stations between WPB and MCO. Some counties there sued to stop BL but may have changed their minds, now wanting a Brightline stop instead of stopping Brightline. More likely I guess the Space Coast area will go for it. Finally we need to consider the real estate development benefit to Brightline (railroad tradition! Florida tradition!) already in action, and the murky issue of who bought those bonds and made other investments among Tallahassee and local politicians. Permitting went pretty smoothly and the 528 was leased pretty easily. So BL is a net benefit to the public, very well run, but it’s not all squally clean. My hopes: it will endure even if it proves unprofitable on an operating basis; and it will inspire Amtrak to efficiency rather than being used as an ideological cudgel against Amtrak. Like they say, an empty highway is seen as a success, a train not so much. That needs to change.
Great Video. I was trying to read about this earlier in the week and I now understand what is going on so much more now.
Honestly, I not only wanna see Brightline build their line 'train to Disney,' but I wanna see them branch out and maybe build onto Jacksonville, and maybe even out of state into Georgia (where I live.)
That's there plan once they build in Cocoa they said they want to see user data once orlando is completed and they cocoa and Jacksonville will happen too
Although the lack of rail isn't unique to Orlando it's a problem throughout America It does surprise me Disney never built one from the airport to WDW, I'd think that would have been a no brainer. But even though they didn't Orlando should have built a light rail to service the main attractions.
Walt's original plans for Disney World had an Airport where Celebration is now connected by Monorail. After EPCOT opened the Monorail was going to go to Disney Springs and possibly expanded to the Orlando International Airport. With Michael Eisner and Frank Wells those plans were cancelled.
@@johngilson3500 I feel like it was an opportunity lost. They could have started the Disney experience right from the Airport by whisking guests to WDW and back. It would have been and felt so seamless.
@@johngilson3500 That would have been a wonderful experience instead of the disjointed and multi-party transportation headache that exists now. I live in California near Anaheim. At one point in the 1950's, WEDWay was proposing a mass transit monorail system to the counties of LA and OC. I've seen a map where they were suggesting to put the monorail down the center medians of several major freeways (I-5 from Burbank to Anaheim for instance). They had beautiful drawings showing how major roads could include terminals for these monorail stations. The creatives at WED were phenomenally ahead of their time.
Walt Disney also told the city of Orlando that I4 needed to be six lanes going each direction and the leaders at the time basically laughed in his face now it’s basically a parking lot to get anywhere and it’s the only major road taking you north and south, A headache for tourists sure but a constant nightmare for locals
@@nikkisimms8075 The way we handle transportation in the US is just odd to me especially tourist destinations. You'd think we'd make it really easy to get around town but nope!
I love the background song. “Kind of like a countdown”
Amazing video about the Brightline and SunRail situation. The level of detail and production quality was top notch. You content is really taking a giant leap forward past most other WDW Content Creators. Keep up the great work.
Bro bright line is showing how good rail is for American. Other city's should follow this.
Excellent Job 👍 Brayden! Amazing Reporting and Video!! Keep Up the Awesome 🤩 Work!!!
Brayden, what a fantastic follow up to your report last year on the state of the rail lines in Florida. Thanks so much for the comprehensive update!
Thanks Brayden! Excellent reporting and a very polished production! Half-assed is not in your idiom! This is a very interesting subject, and your coverage of it brings out the nuance and intrigue that is inherent to it! Bravo scout, bravo!
I've recently learned about and learned to love the idea of more passenger rail in the US. It's more efficient at moving people, it doesn't divide communities like a highway, and it's more environmentally friendly, which is increasingly important. While I applaud Brightline's efficiency, as a privately owned for profit company they're in the business of connecting destination that will bring revenue not communities. I would love to ride a train to Orlando or Miami, but I live in a town along the 160+ mile gap between Orlando and West Palm Brightline passes through. They say it themselves. They don't want to invest in the corridor passing Universal and Seaworld because they don't want to invest in something that costly. Conversely Sunrail has the exact opposite problem. it passes through a bunch of suburbs without connecting the destinations people actually want to go to. I believe the Sunrail/Brightline compromise would solve the profitability problem with Sunrail by adding in demand destinations and income from Brightline leasing out the rights to run on those tracks. It will also connecting communities farther South that Brightline stops at. Ideally one or both would also connect the UCF campus as well, but that's mostly just wishful thinking.
Side Note:
People like to bash Sunrail for not turning a profit, but the main goal in building infrastructure shouldn't be to make a profit. It should be to serve the people. Of course being profitable would be nice but that shouldn't be the priority. Besides I rarely hear people (outside of transit and rail enthusiasts) pointing out how much of a money pit highways are even with toles. When will people understand that adding more lanes doesn't reduce traffic due to induced demand. One of the best ways to reduce traffic is to give people other reliable options.
Excellent points! As a Miamian now living in Orlando do many Disney tourists know that their is a ACTUAL City of Orlando with a Downtown and nice neighborhoods too? I hope this Brightline/ SunRail connection will get some tourists to actually explore the rest of Orlando too.
First, I think you make a fair point about the gap in stations between WPB and Orlando. I think you just need to give it some time for Brightline to work and show it's value. They're adding stations in Aventura and Boca Raton which is a good sign. I think Brightline's main purpose right now is to directly connect South Florida and Orlando and show it can do it in an expeditiously way that has value for customers and can be profitable.
Second, with SunRail I dont have issue with it not turning a profit, I question it's purpose. I don't understand commuter rail lines that don't connect to any significant places. Downtown Orlando is really it on that line. Connection to UCF sounds like it makes sense if it's feasible. However, any connection to the airport and tourist attractions makes the most sense.
Third, I don't really always like the argument about how highways are money pits as a counter to the argument of non-profitable public rail passenger transit. The highways serve an incredibly important function as the backbone of our economy. But I do agree with giving people, especially in a large sprawling city, other reliable options than driving.
@@jirky015 I'm aware of the planned stops for Brightline but those are b/w Miami and West Palm and not along the section of track I was referring to. The fact that they don't even have plans to stop in places like Palm Bay with a population of over 120K and Port St. Lucie, the 7th largest city in the state, both of which have a larger population than West Palm, just doesn't make sense to me.
I think we agree when it comes to Sunrail. It's main problem is that it doesn't connect to places people want to go. The proposed Sunrail/Brightline corridor through the city will give people destinations people want to go to which will make the system more sustainable.
Finally, when I mention how much the state spends on roads I don't mean they should stop spending on them. I just use roads as a comparison of infrastructure that the state invests heavily into without a thought about profitability. I feel it is a fair comparison because they are both mostly funded by the government with similar uses, expenses, and construction timelines.
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Respectfully, you missed my point. There were previously 3 main stations, bypassing other areas. Now there are two additional to fill in gaps for more ridership potential. Give it time, let Brightline prove it can be viable between South Florida and Orlando. That is the intention. When the time comes, I have no doubt they will make an additional station to serve the greater Space Coast.
Also, Palm Beach County's population is twice that of Brevard County and St. Lucie County combined. I think it's kind of irrelevant to say Palm Bay and Port St. Lucie have a greater population when West Palm Beach's station serves the entirety of Palm Beach County and is connected to the greater South Florida metropolitan area. And I'm not saying they shouldn't build a station there in the future, but it's for the future, not now.
Have you ridden the Tri-rail? fast and efficient connects the Fort Lauderdale airport and the Miami airport. I have issues with the Fort Lauderdale airport bus as it doesn't stop at every terminal...long walks not for the disabled.
Brayden, you are so awesome. Thank you so much for explaining all of this so clearly. My brain just can't comprehend all of this on my own lol.
Great work Brayden. This does explain why we haven’t seen any videos from you for weeks. Keep up the great work.
One of the great things about cities like chicago, boston, etc. Fly in and dont need to touch a car. Def international travelers expect that.
Keep in mind, hong Kong is also built to encourage rail usage. High fees and tolls for taxis and cars make using mass commuting options almost inevitable. Shame we love our cars too much for these trains to be more successful 😔
You cant compare culture.. every country had different believe lifestyle etc
Wow! Thank you. You explained it so well. Keep up the good work.
This is awesome news, as an occasional SunRail user it’s nice that a ticket to the airport (2 counties for me) would cost less than just parking at the airport!
Also Orange County recently conducted a survey to gauge support for better transit, so I am VERY excited for the future of transit in Orlando. If the SunRail connection to idrive gets completed it will allow for huge amounts of people to get off of the roads, especially tourists who have no clue where they’re going.
I've always been impressed with your reporting of Disney News. This info is no exception! Good work!
I’m cancelling all my Disney related channels except yours tonight because I believe you to be much more straightforward and professional than most newsworks and definitely Disney!
Thank you for covering this topic with comments. It has cleared up my mind on this two systems.
Brayden your videos are so professional you do a great job at reporting Disney news I can always trust your journalism. Disney should hire you to create and direct some of their social media outlets.
This was a great video! Thank you for all the time this must have taken!
Great work so informative and your editing is amazing just wish we had more vlogs 😎
Thank you for posting this informational video.
Rail is fantastic. Living in Toronto now and rail to the airport is truly the only way to go!
Thanks Braden, very useful and easy to understand
Thanks for this amazing update, Brayden. Very informative.
Thanks Brayden; a great job as usual!
Thanks for bring us up to speed on the train situation in Orlando.
How refreshing to see a video about Brightline that does not have comments turned off. No place else in the world operates high speed trains in urban areas without walls to keep pedestrians and animals off tracks plus overpasses instead of crossings. Brightline trains killed 59 people even when restricted to south Florida, the worst record of any railway!
What a great video. I appreciate the "before" and "after" updates that show the progress. The new trains and buildings are beautiful...and for those of us in other parts of the country (WI here) its nice to be able to see them. I think that if these trains could come on line faster (especially with the current costs of gasoline) it would greatly improve support. Years ago, I read that a parking structure alone costs something like $15,000 per stall. I bet that that number has greatly gone up. And, since land is at a premium and its hard to find space for parking lots in an urban setting, congestion on future roads along with rising gas prices is going to make this train option much better in America. Thanks again for the great aerial footage of the progress so far.
Never thought Idbe excited for train routes. But here I am
This was perfect! Thank you for the excellent reporting. I am super excited to see all of the angles. As a Disney fan from Ohio, the rail feels so much better than the mears connect option now that the express is gone.
I just rode the train for the first time from West Palm Beach to Fort Lauderdale. The trip was about 30 mins and cost $17 each way for coach (snacks and drinks for sale) or $27 for premium (which includes snacks and drinks 🍺 and a separate waiting area). As a bonus they will pick you up and drop you off for free…pretty cool. They dropped me off at the beach at Fort Lauderdale and I just took an Uber back. The staff were all very friendly and helpful and the train ran on time. Would definitely recommend using Brightline.
Wow this is a fantastic well thought out video. Top notch great job and thank you!
Love the comparisons. Great job, Brayden!
That is the best reported news piece I have ever heard! Good job, Brayden
I live in Norfolk, VA. We have continually been part of the North East train corridor for well over a century. Its always there and it’s fascinating that do much of the country isn’t connected. Our trains travel to New York and Boston several times a day.
I honestly adore the amount of research you put into talking about the railroad!
Awesome work Brayden, great news. Thanks for the updated information.
Here here Brayden! That was incredibly well done and super informative. Thank you so much for caring enough to keep us informed in such a insightful, easy to understand manner! Your hard work definitely shines through.
You always teach me so much. Thank you for your hard work!
TL/DR
Brightline and Disney: let’s make a train. We’ll pay for it.
Universal: Not Fair! The government should pay for it to come to me!
As someone from the Tampa Bay Area I would LOVE this. Being able to simply take a rail to Orlando? Sign me up
Excellent, well put together segment Brayden! Thank you!
Wow what an amazingly put together video. As an orlando resident you really gave great context and explained well why things work out as they do. Great video.
Excellent video! You're so well-informed on your subject that it's obvious that you do your homework.
That is a better idea to let Bright line do it's own thing and Sun Rail take advantage of the short hauls. I really like how you researched everything Brayden, this wouldn't make sense by anyone else. You have certainly done your homework and not to worry about the length of time with this update...its great that you are doing your best to get the news of this massive undertaking in Florida. Let's hope Disney and the other parks take advantage of this opportunity...and Disney changes their minds on the station that would really make a difference to them.
“not only have gas prices gone up” lol! thanks for another great update. 😃
Wow. Just Wow. Nevermind the intriguing content, you are an amazing creator! Best Video yet! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
So totally awesome!!! Thanks for your fantastic update!!!
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The BART system in Northern California is fantastic. It links the SF/Oakland/Bay Area communities & SFO. It even allows Central Valley commuters to do park & ride. This type of system would be very useful in the Orlando metro & surrounding communities, take pressure off the hiways.