I hauled steel back in the early nineties , michigan doubles and toll road lcvs . And we just threw 2 chains over the top and called good. Those old timers said that if you put to many chains on them , if you take a turn or a exit to fast the whole truck will tip over , but this way the coil rolls off, truck stays up right. However , I know we can't do that any more because of our points system on our cdL, and we have to go by the book on all this stuff now days. Cheers from northern indiana usa
17k over 12k is nothing if you have to brake hard or swerve hard on a hill. Add chains and or straps accross bottom and over top of coil. Put huge glulam headers for chalking. Place as many 5 foot stacks of pallets as you can to cushion and slow down the coil if it breaks free.
Seriously? How much experience do you have and why do you say 17k isn't enough for that? I have none, but that sure seems secure to an untrained eye. Now I'm going to research glulam headers. never heard of it. and chalking. I never heard anyone mention the seam-side of the chains before! I got a lot out of this video.
I love how all these companies think us drivers are the dumbest fuckn people alive. 20+ yrs of driving multiple types of combinations, I can say this honestly. I haven't ever had a load come off a trlr & I haven't ever hit a damn bridge with a tall load
OK There are a variety of reasons a shipper or a driver would choose shotgun or suicide position of coil loading. The driver is correct about x chains here. He padded in between the 2 chains. And he even added an unnecessary strap over the top which provides an extra 6k WWL. Sometimes UA-cam comments are surprisingly ignorant.
You cross your chains so in case one breaks, the other chain will hopefully hold the coil in place until you can come to a stop and replace the broken chain.
crazy way to load coils. they should be loaded so a fork lift can get to the center of it. one chain pulling forward, two pulling to the rear. in decades of hauling them this way the only time i saw a fail is when the driver pulled out in front of a train,.
Whatever happened to tightening a binder towards inboard? And whatever happened to putting the binders on the back side of the coil? That way when you have an emergency braking situation that you don’t mess up your binders and you can still work with the binder and it’s not pinched so banjo tight against the front face of the coil?? I guess so much for proper old school coil hauling. Who owns the equipment that is doing the hauling? That’ll maybe tell the rest of the story. Should’ve smacked the chains with the cheater pipe a couple of times to make sure that some slack and binds weren’t hiding in there.
Sorry, but people who X chain through the eye of a coil don't have a clue. You need to read a few books on rigging. Do you even know what a basket is? Do you realize the effect chain angles have on strength ?
Buddy DOT FMCSA Securement Guide demands X CHAIN on shotgun style placed coils for suicide coils they are not necessary. This is not a crane and rigging class. None what you brought up is of revelant.
@@dmytrodolzhenko349 They are forbidden for suicide (2) Prohibition on crossing of tiedowns when coils are transported with eyes crosswise. Attaching tiedowns diagonally through the eye of a coil to form an X-pattern when viewed from above the vehicle is prohibited. And absolutely stupid on shotgun.. That x chain is nothing but a problem unless it wraps back around the outer edge if the coil. Sorry you couldn't cut it as a crane operator/rigger. But hey maybe you'll do good with your 70 hour a week OTR job
@@joecummings1260 Doesn't matter if your right or wrong the federal rules are x chain on shotgun and pulling a chain back against the edge will result in damage claim you would be a very poor steel hauler.
They have their own engineer approved system (similar racks and timbers but chained differently) but load coils facing front to rear, not side to side like this.
Very professional. I like your load safety procedures.
Looking forward to be a flatbed driver this was a great video 👍
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I hauled steel back in the early nineties , michigan doubles and toll road lcvs .
And we just threw 2 chains over the top and called good.
Those old timers said that if you put to many chains on them , if you take a turn or a exit to fast the whole truck will tip over , but this way the coil rolls off, truck stays up right.
However , I know we can't do that any more because of our points system on our cdL, and we have to go by the book on all this stuff now days. Cheers from northern indiana usa
Makes sense. If the load can’t move the trailer will
Concise and well done! Thanks!
Great video!
Studers easily the fattest flatbedder I’ve ever seen. Respect
Absolutely well explained
Common sense makes the world go 'round. I love the way the belt holds itself when tightened.
Good job brother
All that securement and it’s all for nothing until you said this thing ain’t going anywhere.
That the way I do it sometime I nail a front wood stop in front of the coil it just a stupid little thing I do
17k over 12k is nothing if you have to brake hard or swerve hard on a hill. Add chains and or straps accross bottom and over top of coil. Put huge glulam headers for chalking. Place as many 5 foot stacks of pallets as you can to cushion and slow down the coil if it breaks free.
Seriously? How much experience do you have and why do you say 17k isn't enough for that? I have none, but that sure seems secure to an untrained eye. Now I'm going to research glulam headers. never heard of it. and chalking. I never heard anyone mention the seam-side of the chains before! I got a lot out of this video.
@@LouisJ-mq7dxwhat they said makes no sense. If that is not enough for securement the problem is not securement but their driving.
I love how all these companies think us drivers are the dumbest fuckn people alive. 20+ yrs of driving multiple types of combinations, I can say this honestly. I haven't ever had a load come off a trlr & I haven't ever hit a damn bridge with a tall load
OK There are a variety of reasons a shipper or a driver would choose shotgun or suicide position of coil loading. The driver is correct about x chains here. He padded in between the 2 chains. And he even added an unnecessary strap over the top which provides an extra 6k WWL.
Sometimes UA-cam comments are surprisingly ignorant.
Thanks for this video I need to know this stuff for my permit test and it really helps
You cross your chains so in case one breaks, the other chain will hopefully hold the coil in place until you can come to a stop and replace the broken chain.
That is not how I thought that you did this. Thanks for the lesson!
Any advise for narrow coils 16" that are tippy?
how many you totin? i reckon you can strap em together end to end
crazy way to load coils.
they should be loaded so a fork lift can get to the center of it.
one chain pulling forward, two pulling to the rear.
in decades of hauling them this way the only time i saw a fail is when the driver pulled out in front of a train,.
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Whatever happened to tightening a binder towards inboard? And whatever happened to putting the binders on the back side of the coil? That way when you have an emergency braking situation that you don’t mess up your binders and you can still work with the binder and it’s not pinched so banjo tight against the front face of the coil??
I guess so much for proper old school coil hauling.
Who owns the equipment that is doing the hauling? That’ll maybe tell the rest of the story. Should’ve smacked the chains with the cheater pipe a couple of times to make sure that some slack and binds weren’t hiding in there.
oh wow a local outfit on UA-cam. cool.
No stop block in front chained down just metal wrapped in plastic on bare wood might as well put some lube on it all too
Sorry, but people who X chain through the eye of a coil don't have a clue. You need to read a few books on rigging. Do you even know what a basket is? Do you realize the effect chain angles have on strength ?
Buddy DOT FMCSA Securement Guide demands X CHAIN on shotgun style placed coils for suicide coils they are not necessary. This is not a crane and rigging class. None what you brought up is of revelant.
@@dmytrodolzhenko349 They are forbidden for suicide
(2) Prohibition on crossing of tiedowns when coils are transported with eyes crosswise. Attaching tiedowns diagonally through the eye of a coil to form an X-pattern when viewed from above the vehicle is prohibited.
And absolutely stupid on shotgun.. That x chain is nothing but a problem unless it wraps back around the outer edge if the coil.
Sorry you couldn't cut it as a crane operator/rigger. But hey maybe you'll do good with your 70 hour a week OTR job
Miserable soul @@joecummings1260
@@joecummings1260 Doesn't matter if your right or wrong the federal rules are x chain on shotgun and pulling a chain back against the edge will result in damage claim you would be a very poor steel hauler.
Can always count on some alpha, big d swinging in these blue collar vid comment sections. Love it.
X chains are illegal.
that's what makes them so much fun ...
only if eye to the side. if eye to the front, its mandatory
BHP would NEVER approve this system, very unsafe
They have their own engineer approved system (similar racks and timbers but chained differently) but load coils facing front to rear, not side to side like this.
Thank you
Great video!!