I always use the handbrake as in our storage yard it's legs down handbrake on so I just do it on pitch. If you were to have an incident I don't know how your insurance would take it if you didn't use the handbrake though.
Each to their own, however to be safe, I would always recommend using the hand brake even in storage. If the brakes do stick on, no problem they will easily release themselves within a couple of inches of being towed.
Caravanned for 24 years and stored my ‘van at home the whole time. Always used the handbrake while van is parked up whether it be at home or parked on site and we’ve never had an issue with it seizing on.
Handbrake off in storage, handbrake on when hitching and unhitching. I have the Handbrake on when away. I only leave the motormover engaged when using.
The important thing is that your brake / handbrake actually work, it's a legal requirement. How will you know they work if you never use, test or exercise them? Yes, the brakes sticking on can be a real PITA but maybe you should worry more about them sticking 'off' because you never tried them. Your handbrake mechanism is what stops your van if it becomes detached. Chocks aint gonna stop a runaway.
Interesting subject Martin. Out of habit I put the handbrake on. I also mostly leave the movers engaged. But I of course worry that the brakes might jam and the tires might get damaged and some springs in the movers might stretch 😳 We shouldn’t worry about these things, but I do personally.
Hello Martin, I leave handbrake off in storage, alko wheel lock on one side and millenco wheel lock on another side, steadys down, and no one inside the caravan can’t see it moving, but on a pitch handbrake on, 👍.
I have a ground post with a tow ball on top for docking the caravan at home on level ground so I leave the handbrake off. On site I leave it on as I find the dog lead fits over the handbrake perfectly. I'd never leave the motor mover engaged.
Like the previous comment I always leave my handbrake off whilst in storage or on site, I do apply the brake once I’ve unhitched until I’ve got the motor mover engaged.
We always put the handbrake on when not hitched to car and as for our motor mover, the fitter said it was perfectly fine to use that as a brake. Keep safe Mark & Coral
Thanks for putting this discussion on, as a newbie I follow the instruction to leave off when in storage due to risk of seizing, but as usual (it seems) as with most things to do with caravans, it is a subjective topic with a few variations in the responses and opinions 🙃
Ups, lots of different opinions. It works the way I’ve done it for years so not going to try a fix something that’s not broken. Thanks for watching, happy caravanning 🙂
I use mine on site but in storage I tend to use the Alko secure wheellock to prevent the caravan from moving and ensure the handbrake does not seize up.
My view is if it's on the caravan it's there for a reason. Safety in numbers. I never leave my motor mover on. Only to put it on a pitch or once done use it out put on the drive.. Understand where you are coming from Martin 100%. But it's one of them damed if you do. Damed if you don't. I personally use it every time. If it's there use it.
First, if reversed caravan on to pitch, how do you pull towhitch back out? If you use blocks, then I can see no need for hand break when sited. I would never consider not using the handbrake.
Hi Martin. Off in storage on sometimes on a pitch. I think leaving it on for long periods might cause the breaks to cease on. Same opinion as you really maybe it will cause a problem or not ? Thanks for sharing 👍
I always chock wheels front at back when unhooking, handbrake doesn't stop backwards movement and can sometimes allow a little forward movement. Enough to dent car bumper. In regards to leaving MMs engaged not good idea long term. They can add extra thief protection in short term (couple days) if using automatic engagement versions. Need allen key and knowledge to disengage them manually.
With the MM I thought it may damage the tyre leaving it on for long periods of time, I maybe wrong. The little movement you mention forwards and back, I would imagine would put extra stress on the cables. Everyone seems to have a way that works for them, I will stick to doing what I do. Thanks for commenting 🙂
Handbrake should prevent backwards motion, but there will be a small initial movement as the auto reverse system sets. If your handbrake still fails to hold your van, it needs adjustment.
Hi Martin, Just a small point , are you quitting UA-cam ? In your question about the handbrake , I left the handbrake off when in storage . Luckily for me I went to check the caravan after a spate of really windy weather and our caravan had moved ( slightly ) . Not sure if it was to do with it being stood on pea gravel ? Anyway, the wheel lock kept it from moving but I’ve put the handbrake on ever since and also chocked the wheels .
Our storage pitch is fairly level, the wheels are chocked and along with the wheel locks never had any movement. I do go and check the van weekly and if there has been high winds. As for quitting YT…not yet! Cheers
Hi Martin. Been towing now for forty years and never leave handbrake on in storage but then my wheel lock is on and steadies down. On site always use handbrake, that's what it's there for. I'm pretty sure if you did have a claim on insurance, they would not cover you. Keep up the good work mate and enjoy your time ;))
Hi Stew, yep, never use in storage. A few people mentioned the insurance thing and I’ve thought about this, with the wheels checked, legs down and wheel locks on I can’t see the van going anywhere! 🤔 Thanks for commenting and watching 🙂
I think, if the van is on 95% level ground, it's OK to leave the handbrake off, especially if pitched long-term. If on a slope the brake is needed as there will be pressure on the legs, which aren't designed to withstand sideways force. There must be a calculation for 1,500 KG, force resulting from the 5% slope. Chocks could be used to address that sideways force, but this would have to be done very carefully and in correct order i.e. chocked first, then legs down.
Always off in storage got various trailers etc and chocked. Only time I left on horse trailer they stuck on ...easy enough to free off if you know how ....if shoes get damp they will stick to drum eventually..only use caravan handbrake on site as it's only on for max 10 days ....just my opinion...other opinions are available.😊
Hi Martin. Once legs down wheel lock and choked, handbreak always off. It doesn't matter if on site or at home. It's what i was taught and practised for nearly 20 years. Not seen me wrong yet. Keep up the great content. Rgds Kevin
Hi, We never use the hand brake, it seems to be a token gesture on caravans 😮. Our first van had a proper ratchet hand brake. Since then they seem to be useless. No matter how hard you try you can't fully apply it, our van a swift will roll back about an inch before engaged. Use the motor mover to stop the van rolling once legs and chocks deployed motor mover removed then happy days. Never had an issue with this method in 16 yrs of vanning 😊. P and J 👍
I never leave a motor mover engaged, it deforms the tyre which I think can't be a good thing. Pretty much the same plan with the handbrake, only ever used when necessary, so as an example unhitching. I put the hanbrake on to unhitch and as soon as possible I chock my wheels, regardless of level or sloping surface. Whilst handbrakes are mechanical and are less prone to failure than hydraulic brakes they can, and do fail. Also they are open to being interfered with, where as well placed chocks, especially when under pressure, are less easy to remove. A properly fitted wheel locks by its very purpose will also prevent wheels from turning.
Hi Martin, handbrake is off in storage. On the drive at home ( slight slope as you know) it’s on. I’ve always put it on when sited, sort of autopilot. I haven’t helped have I ? 😂😂
Hi Martin, superb debate started, but handbrake off at both storage and site. If the site has a slope we use wedges on the wheels and no issues so far. The only time I have used the handbrake was at Whitley Bay and that site slopes with high winds.
Handbrake on when on site. Never thought not to maybe just a habit. In storage leave off so doesn't cease over time. Legs downs with alco wheel lock cant roll anyway.
Hi Martin, You will know this anyway as you hold a C+E licence. Any trailer with a gross weight over 750kg has to have brakes..so on the back of this adding a handle and additional cable/Rod is part of the package. Also a handbrake would help if you ever had a breakdown and the caravan/trailer had to be uncoupled from the tow vehicle to be towed separately. Great video as always. Best Wishes Linda and Glenn.
Hi Linda and Glenn, yes I fully aware of the brake/weight law but hadn’t thought about a breakdown and uncoupled, valid point there 🤔 Thanks for comments and watching
I use handbrake when unhitching, before engaging motor movers, only needs a small incline to move. The use of handbrake on a pitch or storage - if you use an Alko lock it cannot move anyway, so why bother
No only when removing caravan from tow bar or un level ground because most people use wheel blocks even when they’re on level ground it’s common sense 😊
Hi Martin. It's the same as what came first the chicken or the egg 😂 to be honest, I leave it off all the time. And in our storage yard, there's a mix of on and off. I do think it's a bit of an old wife's tales. On or off, it doesn't matter. Paul
On site handbrake always on. In storage handbrake off. We have Alko lock on the wheel so it’s not going to move. Wedges on the other wheel. Handbrake of in storage to prevent brakes sticking on. Same if storing car handbrake off.
I always use the handbrake as in our storage yard it's legs down handbrake on so I just do it on pitch. If you were to have an incident I don't know how your insurance would take it if you didn't use the handbrake though.
Good point about insurance, will keep that in mind. Cheers
Each to their own, however to be safe, I would always recommend using the hand brake even in storage. If the brakes do stick on, no problem they will easily release themselves within a couple of inches of being towed.
Seems there is a mix of ways that people do, but interesting reading what everyone thinks, cheers
Caravanned for 24 years and stored my ‘van at home the whole time. Always used the handbrake while van is parked up whether it be at home or parked on site and we’ve never had an issue with it seizing on.
That’s good to know, cheers
Handbrake off in storage, handbrake on when hitching and unhitching. I have the Handbrake on when away. I only leave the motormover engaged when using.
Yeah, seems a few people do this same method. I’m same with the motor mover. Cheers
Totally agree with you on this, been vanning 52 years and always doit same as you. HTH Martin . Enjoying your content. Regards Richard
The important thing is that your brake / handbrake actually work, it's a legal requirement. How will you know they work if you never use, test or exercise them? Yes, the brakes sticking on can be a real PITA but maybe you should worry more about them sticking 'off' because you never tried them. Your handbrake mechanism is what stops your van if it becomes detached. Chocks aint gonna stop a runaway.
Interesting subject Martin. Out of habit I put the handbrake on. I also mostly leave the movers engaged. But I of course worry that the brakes might jam and the tires might get damaged and some springs in the movers might stretch 😳
We shouldn’t worry about these things, but I do personally.
Hi Graham, there are lots of different opinions in the comments of what’s best. What I do works, and the saying goes, if it’s not broke…
Cheers
@@TheCaravanNut I agree with that 👍🏻
Hello Martin, I leave handbrake off in storage, alko wheel lock on one side and millenco wheel lock on another side, steadys down, and no one inside the caravan can’t see it moving, but on a pitch handbrake on, 👍.
Storage off seems popular, I just like living life on the edge when on site 🤣 cheers
I have a ground post with a tow ball on top for docking the caravan at home on level ground so I leave the handbrake off. On site I leave it on as I find the dog lead fits over the handbrake perfectly. I'd never leave the motor mover engaged.
I’ve seen those posts, look decent. Maybe it was designed to put a dog lead around! 🤣 cheers
Always off in storage. Always on when on site. Advised by service engineer to leave off in storage to save brakes seizing on.
Yeah, similar to what I was told. Cheers
Like the previous comment I always leave my handbrake off whilst in storage or on site, I do apply the brake once I’ve unhitched until I’ve got the motor mover engaged.
We always put the handbrake on when not hitched to car and as for our motor mover, the fitter said it was perfectly fine to use that as a brake. Keep safe Mark & Coral
Everyone seems to have their own way!
Cheers
Like you, always when it’s stood on level, it’s off, only use it when unhitching on slope onto driveway and then it’s motormovers.
Yep, that sounds like what a lot of people do. Cheers
Thanks for putting this discussion on, as a newbie I follow the instruction to leave off when in storage due to risk of seizing, but as usual (it seems) as with most things to do with caravans, it is a subjective topic with a few variations in the responses and opinions 🙃
Ups, lots of different opinions. It works the way I’ve done it for years so not going to try a fix something that’s not broken. Thanks for watching, happy caravanning 🙂
Handbrake always on, both in storage and on site. Never had a problem with brakes sticking. The Handbrake is there to be used.
Yep, a few have the same opinion. Cheers
Previous caravan didn't have a motor mover. Handbrake was essential when pushing caravan on a slope, to stop it running away.
I get that, cheers
I use mine on site but in storage I tend to use the Alko secure wheellock to prevent the caravan from moving and ensure the handbrake does not seize up.
It seems a lot of people do the same, we have blocks of wood at our storage to chock the wheels. Works for us. Cheers
My view is if it's on the caravan it's there for a reason.
Safety in numbers.
I never leave my motor mover on. Only to put it on a pitch or once done use it out put on the drive..
Understand where you are coming from Martin 100%.
But it's one of them damed if you do. Damed if you don't.
I personally use it every time.
If it's there use it.
First, if reversed caravan on to pitch, how do you pull towhitch back out? If you use blocks, then I can see no need for hand break when sited.
I would never consider not using the handbrake.
If I’ve reversed on to a pitch I move forward slightly to pull it back out, works for me. Cheers
Exactly the same. Handbrake off in storage. If we are on a pitch generally just for extra piece of mind I use it. Motor mover for moving only.
Yep, agreed! Cheers
Hi Martin. Off in storage on sometimes on a pitch. I think leaving it on for long periods might cause the breaks to cease on. Same opinion as you really maybe it will cause a problem or not ? Thanks for sharing 👍
Hi Paul, I’ve just left it off as was told it could seize. Will carry on the way I’m doing it for now. Cheers
I put my caravan hand brake on all the time when I’m on a pitch and on the Drive I might leave it off though winter so it doesn’t stick to the drum
Sounds like a lot of people do that. If it works…
Cheers
Handbrake on. It's there. So use it.
Never had an issue with seizing up
That’s good to hear, cheers
I never use mine Martin.
I use the chocks just like you.
I don't want the brakes seizing.
Yep, that’s what I thought. Cheers
I always chock wheels front at back when unhooking, handbrake doesn't stop backwards movement and can sometimes allow a little forward movement. Enough to dent car bumper. In regards to leaving MMs engaged not good idea long term. They can add extra thief protection in short term (couple days) if using automatic engagement versions. Need allen key and knowledge to disengage them manually.
With the MM I thought it may damage the tyre leaving it on for long periods of time, I maybe wrong. The little movement you mention forwards and back, I would imagine would put extra stress on the cables. Everyone seems to have a way that works for them, I will stick to doing what I do.
Thanks for commenting 🙂
Handbrake should prevent backwards motion, but there will be a small initial movement as the auto reverse system sets. If your handbrake still fails to hold your van, it needs adjustment.
I use my handbrake when physically moving the caravan,or coupling up on slope.
Yeah, a few have said the same. Cheers
Hi Martin, Just a small point , are you quitting UA-cam ?
In your question about the handbrake , I left the handbrake off when in storage . Luckily for me I went to check the caravan after a spate of really windy weather and our caravan had moved ( slightly ) . Not sure if it was to do with it being stood on pea gravel ? Anyway, the wheel lock kept it from moving but I’ve put the handbrake on ever since and also chocked the wheels .
Our storage pitch is fairly level, the wheels are chocked and along with the wheel locks never had any movement. I do go and check the van weekly and if there has been high winds.
As for quitting YT…not yet!
Cheers
Hi Martin. Been towing now for forty years and never leave handbrake on in storage but then my wheel lock is on and steadies down. On site always use handbrake, that's what it's there for. I'm pretty sure if you did have a claim on insurance, they would not cover you. Keep up the good work mate and enjoy your time ;))
Hi Stew, yep, never use in storage. A few people mentioned the insurance thing and I’ve thought about this, with the wheels checked, legs down and wheel locks on I can’t see the van going anywhere! 🤔 Thanks for commenting and watching 🙂
@@TheCaravanNut Just for fun, ask your insurer what the outcome would be if the van did go somewhere.
Always use the handbrake. Storage has a slight incline.
I think, if the van is on 95% level ground, it's OK to leave the handbrake off, especially if pitched long-term. If on a slope the brake is needed as there will be pressure on the legs, which aren't designed to withstand sideways force. There must be a calculation for 1,500 KG, force resulting from the 5% slope. Chocks could be used to address that sideways force, but this would have to be done very carefully and in correct order i.e. chocked first, then legs down.
Something to think about, cheers
As far as i know its not a good idea leaving the mover engaged as the tyre will stay that shape and and it will go down and not reinflate
Always off in storage got various trailers etc and chocked.
Only time I left on horse trailer they stuck on ...easy enough to free off if you know how ....if shoes get damp they will stick to drum eventually..only use caravan handbrake on site as it's only on for max 10 days ....just my opinion...other opinions are available.😊
Sounds good to me, was just interested what other people think and do. Cheers
Hi Martin. Once legs down wheel lock and choked, handbreak always off. It doesn't matter if on site or at home. It's what i was taught and practised for nearly 20 years. Not seen me wrong yet. Keep up the great content. Rgds Kevin
Hi Kevin, yep, that’s more or less what I do. Glad it’s not just me! Cheers
Hi,
We never use the hand brake, it seems to be a token gesture on caravans 😮.
Our first van had a proper ratchet hand brake.
Since then they seem to be useless.
No matter how hard you try you can't fully apply it, our van a swift will roll back about an inch before engaged.
Use the motor mover to stop the van rolling once legs and chocks deployed motor mover removed then happy days.
Never had an issue with this method in 16 yrs of vanning 😊.
P and J 👍
More or less the same way I do it. Which chocks, locks and legs down can’t see it going anywhere.
Thanks for comments and watching
Not at home, not on site - occasionally when getting set up
Same as a lot of people, cheers
Like very much the chocks with handle on the side.
What make are these n where from please
Not sure what make they are, think I got them from Amazon. Cheers
I never leave a motor mover engaged, it deforms the tyre which I think can't be a good thing. Pretty much the same plan with the handbrake, only ever used when necessary, so as an example unhitching. I put the hanbrake on to unhitch and as soon as possible I chock my wheels, regardless of level or sloping surface. Whilst handbrakes are mechanical and are less prone to failure than hydraulic brakes they can, and do fail. Also they are open to being interfered with, where as well placed chocks, especially when under pressure, are less easy to remove. A properly fitted wheel locks by its very purpose will also prevent wheels from turning.
Yes, I think leaving the mover on will damage the tyre. With everything else on the van it’s not going anywhere. Cheers
Hi Martin, handbrake is off in storage. On the drive at home ( slight slope as you know) it’s on. I’ve always put it on when sited, sort of autopilot. I haven’t helped have I ? 😂😂
Hi Colin, ha ha, think everyone has a different way of doing things. Lots of comments giving me something to think about. Cheers matey
Hi Martin, superb debate started, but handbrake off at both storage and site. If the site has a slope we use wedges on the wheels and no issues so far. The only time I have used the handbrake was at Whitley Bay and that site slopes with high winds.
Yep, that’s what I do. We did go on a slope once and still left it off, living life on the edge! 🤣 cheers
Handbrake on when on site. Never thought not to maybe just a habit. In storage leave off so doesn't cease over time. Legs downs with alco wheel lock cant roll anyway.
Yeah, in storage with locks etc can’t see it moving anywhere. Cheers
Only use handbrake on a slope or if there is a chance of rolling
A few do the same, cheers
Hi. Hand brake off when at home on drive wheel locks on and hitch lock never leave motor mover on. Hand brake on when on site. X
Sounds good to me! Cheers
Hi Martin,
You will know this anyway as you hold a C+E licence.
Any trailer with a gross weight over 750kg has to have brakes..so on the back of this adding a handle and additional cable/Rod is part of the package.
Also a handbrake would help if you ever had a breakdown and the caravan/trailer had to be uncoupled from the tow vehicle to be towed separately.
Great video as always.
Best Wishes Linda and Glenn.
Hi Linda and Glenn, yes I fully aware of the brake/weight law but hadn’t thought about a breakdown and uncoupled, valid point there 🤔
Thanks for comments and watching
Do the same as you only use it on Unilever pitch or bad weather wind ?
Never thought about bad weather. I do sometimes wonder how the van stays in place at our storage as it’s quite open to the elements. Cheers
The only time i use the handbrake is when hitching and unhitching the van..
Sounds good to me! Cheers
I use handbrake when unhitching, before engaging motor movers, only needs a small incline to move. The use of handbrake on a pitch or storage - if you use an Alko lock it cannot move anyway, so why bother
Yeah, a few have mentioned this way. I stopped using the Alko lock, pain in the arse. Wheels chocked and I’m fine!
Cheers
Always leave handbrake off choke wheels before taking mover off after levelling van and putting legs down never had any problems
Yep, same here. Cheers
No only when removing caravan from tow bar or un level ground because most people use wheel blocks even when they’re on level ground it’s common sense 😊
Yep, seems a lot do the same. Cheers
Same as you we don’t use the handbrake👍👍
Glad I’m not the only one! Cheers
Does this mean I don't have to use hand brake in my wagon 😂
What, there’s a handbrake in a wagon! 🤔🤣
I never leave hand brake in storage once legs are down, same on site if on a level pitch
That’s what I thought and have always done. Cheers
What's the point when the steadies are down. It won't go far. I only use it when unhitching from the car.
Yep, that seems to be the general consensus. Cheers
Hi Handbrake off or the shoes will stick to the drums. thanks Andrew.
Yep, that’s what I thought 🤔 cheers
Hi Martin. It's the same as what came first the chicken or the egg 😂 to be honest, I leave it off all the time. And in our storage yard, there's a mix of on and off. I do think it's a bit of an old wife's tales. On or off, it doesn't matter. Paul
Hi Paul, the egg!
I will carry on doing what I’ve always done, don’t want to tempt fate! Cheers
handbrake off all the time in storage and on site
Yep, from the feedback there’s a few that do the same. Cheers
On site handbrake always on. In storage handbrake off. We have Alko lock on the wheel so it’s not going to move. Wedges on the other wheel. Handbrake of in storage to prevent brakes sticking on. Same if storing car handbrake off.
Yes with the addition of wheel locks there’s not much chance of the van moving. I have an electric handbrake on my car so can’t leave off!
Cheers
I only use on pitch not wen in storage or in my case on drive brakes will bind if leave on all the time so I am told by service engineer
Yes, I do slightly remember an engineer telling me that same thing. Cheers