Safe Unsound - Exploring a Film Following the Lives & Challenges of Displaced Ukrainians in Ireland.
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- Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
- Safe Unsound | Documentary
What is Safe Unsound about? Three Ukrainian families find a foothold in a remote corner of Ireland. How temporary is their life there? No one knows.
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THE TEAM:
Daniel James Baldwin - Director and Producer
Hannah Tookey - Producer
Steve Lacey - Executive Producer
Daria Korsak - Editor and Translator
Jackie Teboul - Director of Photography
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In Spring 2022, the plight of Ukraine and its people was at the forefront of our minds and we opened our arms to them. Today, 6 million displaced Ukrainians face a souring of that mood, and Moscow is poised to take advantage the moment our emotional fatigue kicks in. Safe Unsound is a story about the human cost of war told from the perspective of three Ukrainian families containing three generations. In County Mayo, in Ireland, where they moved after the invasion of their country, they are far from the frontline, and very far from home.
Victor and his wife Ludmilla imagined spending their retirement eating apples in their orchard, not learning English in an abandoned schoolhouse in Castlebar. Kate planned to learn to dance, not leave her law career and husband in Kyiv to work day and night to rebuild a life for her young children in the countryside. Maryna hoped to support her four kids and help them thrive, not keep the peace at home while her eldest daughter, Arina, works to make ends meet.
This film explores these families' efforts to contribute to, and fit into, Irish society as well as their tireless quest for control, momentum, and independence.
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UNBROKEN - Treatment. Prosthesis. Rehabilitation for Ukrainians in Ukraine
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To all democracy loving peoples of the world, support Ukraine, stand with Ukraine!
Democracy as we're sold it is an absolute sham, it's just an empty slogan to make some people feel safe and free. The money still rules this world and it rules Ukraine, what happens there is decided by the money and evidently it wants Russia to win.
Hi Jonathan. I’m Belgian. 62 years old. 110 years ago the Kaiser invaded my country. The Belgians fought back, and kept fighting to the end, cooped up in a small piece of territory behind the Yser River.
The entire Anglosphere started referring to my country as ‘Brave Little Belgium’. Our refugees were well-treated and respected, and even the occupied part of our country received tons of humanitarian aid.
Long story short: I demand (yes, demand!) even better treatment for an even braver nation, by the entire Anglosphere!
Slava Ukraini!❤
We visited Ireland in October 2022, and were struck by the visible overwhelming support of Ukrainian course everywhere. Form Dublin to a small village the streets were decorated with yellow and blue flags, there were photo and art exhibitions about the war, one tiny coffee shop in Dublin, covered it's only window with "Puck Futin!" slogan in gigantic letters (yellow and blue, of course). Seeing that, I came with a DIY theory of why the Irish seemed to outpace the rest of Europe in their heartfelt support of Ukraine. Consider telling an Irish the short history of Ukraine: a small but very proud country, fighting for centuries to be independent from the larger neighbour, which casually considers Ukrainian people a slightly defective version of themselves and just cannot fathom what independence Ukrainians are talking about. In short, tell an Irishman "Maidan" and they'll hear "Easter Uprising"...
It has changed now though and we Irish understand we have been taken advantage of .We do not blame Ukrainians but we blame our Government for putting foreigners first before our own people .If you visit today in Dublin ,most of the Ukrainian flags have been quietly put away .
I only know a few Irish people (in Ireland), and they all share a very favorable view of Ukrainians 💛💙
It's a shame the far-right / simple-minded are so susceptible to Russian propaganda (in Ireland, the US, anywhere). Of course one idiot out of a hundred people sticks out like a sore thumb, but when prominent morons like Marjorie Taylor Greene get booed and laughed at for repeating Kremlin talking points, it proves the vast majority of people can't be fooled 😉
Thank you, Jonathan.
Sorry for the displaced families.
Russians must pay this
Ukrainian resistance matches well with the spirit of the Fighting Irish
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
putin Russian propaganda has been ongoing for over 20 years. An entire generation was grown up in it. So yes, its a serious issue that needs to be countered. YT should agree with that.
We have about 32.000 ukranian refugies in Denmark and 11.000 has a job. They have been very good at integrating and nobody is complaining. Many Ukrainians have worked in the farming industry even before the war. Denmark have compared to its size made substantial donations and we even lost a national holiday to pay the aid and increased defence expenses. I hope that this terrible war will end soon so the reconstruction of Ukraine can begin. Be sure that Denmark will do what we can to help ❤️
I can not think of a more beautiful combination of culture than Ukranian and Irish. Both have rich gorgeous history. Just saying. Hail free Ukraine and Ireland.
Agree 💯
Thankyou Mr Fink for saving me, among others from the venial banality of the modern world. There are not so many of you unaffiliated informers dealing in truth and intelligence. So thankyou. It is only authenticity that continues to give me the will to go on living.
Thank you Jonathan for making us aware of this project. Thank you to the whole team involved in the production of this documentary. I hope that major media distributors are made aware of it's existance and support the project. This documentary is so important in many ways. It shows the challenges faced by those who were forced to flee and the communities who support them. it will also hopefully demonstrate how innocent victims are used to manipulate political narratives and objectives.
Thanks again, Jonathan for sharing this...a native of Limavady now an adopted son of Birkenhead....took me a few years to feel like the Wirral peninsula was home...I cannot imagine the culture shock for displaced people....best wishes...E...ps..keep up with the great work that you do...😊
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Thank you Silicon Curtain for such a sensitive interview. A very underdiscussed subject.
Дуже дякую
This needed to be told. Good interview. 👍
Have a like and a comment now I'll enjoy this video on an unusually nice English Saturday night.
Virtual cuppa, Taylor's Yorkshire tea....😊😊😊
@@eamonnclabby7067
Carling export.
This is brilliant and so refreshingly humane. For these displaced Ukrainians, the struggle to fit in, assimilate, and contribute productively in their new home countries on the one hand - must also come with added psychological and social complexity given the very real need to preserve Ukrainian language, culture, and identity… particularly for Ukrainians raising children while displaced.
As resilient as Ukrainians are, my heart breaks for these people trying to maintain that impossibly complicated balance: The need to maintain and resist against Russian efforts at stamping out their identity as a people, plus the weight of carrying this responsibility through a period of declining ethnic Ukrainian population back in their original home country- while also wanting to be fully accepted and integrated in their new (albeit displaced) homes… for however lengthily this long war may grind on. That surely must be a psychological and emotional burden; having to constantly carry, balance, and live those two identities without being forced to let one give way to the other.
Thank you again, Jonathan, for all your work.
Thank you, Jonathan, for introducing us to the film makers. Thank you, Daniel, Daria, and Steve as well as Hannah and Jackie for the documentary. I will look out for it and hope, it will help people understand how difficult it is to not succumb to propaganda but to listen to each other in order to get a clearer picture of diverse living conditions.
🇺🇦 Перемоги і миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
Thanks Jonathon
Great work!
And thanks for reminding everyone that Britain is one of the guarantors of Ukrainian way of life.
This is an effect of how the unemployed in many first-world nations are often scapegoats for the problems that politicians and economic leaders cause to the economy, being stigmatized as people who can't contribute and who only desire to have things given to them by others which is actually, in most cases, not just in refugee's cases, a complete fabrication that in its unchallenged assumptions hurts the feelings of refugees as well as those of citizens considered superfluous and unnecessary to the development of a productive society to live in. It's how we commodified the unemployed into capital for society to use and then we commodify the capitalist work productivity ethic itself and train social workers as business people who commodify unemployment training and not as social scientists working on helping meet people's social need or individual needs which require themselves to be met before they can ably become self-reliant. In fact, putting disabilities and artificial burdens on people in these systems often keeps them in them longer than if their social needs were payed more serious attention to. A humane bureaucracy is needed rather than an inhumane, dehumanising bureaucracy.
The assumption is about human nature, that only self-interest can be a motivating factor for the purposes of the economy. We're not progressive countries. We are very, very far from it. I can't think of any large scale policy for social betterment in my entire generation. The last big contributed, the health care system, was of the generation that lived through WWII. They had things that they passed onto their children, ours won't it looks like.
The other end of this is the stereotypes in US politics that Zelensky and co are asking for ''hand-outs'' while they try to rally support for weaponry to fight a full-scale invasion. This myth that social undesirables in each country at the bottom out-of-sight part of society don't wish or desire to have autonomy, self-reliance or freedom and wouldn't be willing to work at it, is a harmful bias in the way of social progress in the areas of live in the community where capitalism isn't able to anymore improve the social living conditions of its neglected communities, in spite of capitalists having unprecedented government support and lowering of taxes for an extensive amount of years.
Jonathan, you’re invaluable. Stimulating, but without the shouting stress that inhibits thinking
Thank you Jonathan for shedding light on this complicated matter. In the United Kingdom, probably, a lot of people have heard the stories about the war from their grandparents, and are more empathetic to the Ucrainian DP . For example, in Italy this memory doesn't exist , for various reasons. It depends also in which region you live. The good thing would be that the majority of Displaced Persons could return to Ukraine, after the end of the war. Huge gratitude and respect to all wonderful volunteers who are helping and providing assistance to the refugees. 👏👏💙💛💙💛
Usually the people who do the rioting and law breaking are people who are not affected.
You saw this in London with the Poll Tax and the ULED cameras.
Russia must not win. Everybody should help Ukrainians. This is the right and decent thing to do. And those who are guilty must be held accountable. Do not fall for the russian propaganda.
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Ireland and Ukraine actually have something in common. Both have a millennium-long history of being dumped on and exploited by a more powerful neighbor (sorry, Jonathan) and are proud of their ability to maintain their sense of cultural identity in spite of it. That said, I can’t imagine being displaced into an entirely different part of the world, working for a generation to finally fit in, and then, after the war is over, considering the option of going back and rebuilding one’s life from scratch a second time around.
No offence - half my family are from Donegal - themselves exiles because of British imperialism and the mess it caused…
@@SiliconCurtain Hurrah! Most of mine are from Cork.
@@SiliconCurtain...some of mine were red haired Duffy's from the Inishowen peninsula...
@@eamonnclabby7067I did a gene test recently and apparently I have ancestors from Inoshowen too. I’ve never been there, but would really like to visit it now!
What i see in this, even connected to the Mariupol movie, is how much the known patterns of psychological abuse play out.
Based on what i heard here, It sounds like the supertraits of agreeableness and conscietiousness are alive and well in the diaspora. This is the other side of the dynamic - abusers look for people to victimize who will take personal responsibility, work hard, trust other people, cooperate, not rock the boat. They even sometimes blame themselves for their victimization, as your guest did many weeks ago who commented that some ukranians believe 'God is punishing us', when the rightful blame belongs to the abuser.
It seems clear to me that this diaspora phenomenon, is the great opportunity of our lifetime. Not only on the battlefield do ukranians have increasing skills and abilities that we ought to learn from, but It sounds like ukranians are the best friendship material.
Im sorry for the bullying on the Street incident. Bullys are the same everywhere, on a big or small scale. Their words bite because they look for agreeable, conscientious people to pick on. We could definitely live peacefully without them.
Je voudrais aider en ateliers pour Ukraine je suis professeur du marketing
The good news is the family's will be safe, when their husband are conscripted.
Many of these people’s husbands are already fighting, and volunteered.
Thanks for the update Johnathan and the Stream … 🇮🇪❤️🇺🇦… 💙💛💙
I hope Ukrainian families can be in peace together, soon. Russia can´t win this.
There were univerity administrators that invited students from India. Found acomodations for them. Lecturers that lectured them.
Somehow when there was a problem at the border there was no talk about how can we support the people that got these students here, over the people that hurt them. No, the people that hurt them are the representatives of the whole country.
Tragedies that happened because of partition of India are the fault of the British empire, just like all the tragedies of people fleeing Russian invasion are the fault of Russia
This is probably the worst time for Ireland. A 50yo man from Ukraine took a 12yo into the lou
Not much chance of leaving Ireland before you pay your taxes with our PAYE system here!😊
Yes, going away without paying your taxes made me laugh.
The use of the word toxic because one has a different opinion is out of place
I as a Dubliner when staying in different country areas am seen with distrust even though I was born and raised in Dublin.
Don’t be a victim, remember your power
Perhaps many are not aware of this but Mayo traditionally is a closed and sort of 'isolated' community and they really do not take to influxes of people from another culture very well. Not just people from other countries, even people from Cork and Dublin within Ireland. They understand the whole tourist thing, but thats a few weeks during the summer they put up with it cos it brings in load of money. But putting thousands of Ukrainians into that culture, well good luck there! is all I will say... and remember Mayo is also notable in the English language in that the word 'boycott' was born in Mayo, they are literally ground zero for cancel culture. Thats not to say the people of mayo are prejudicial, they are not, they simply are Irish conservatives that would like to remain living in what they consider 'the way things should be' in an Irish cultural setting. Until 2022 most people in Mayo would not have been able to point to Ukraine on a map, nor did they know, nor care, anything about Ukraine, and likely referred to Ukraine as 'the Ukraine' as if it was some unclaimed wilderness like 'the Antarctic' or 'the Klondike'
"Irish culture setting" they speak English, so what culture is it your talking about, Irish speaking communities have opened themselves more to Ukrainians, less so the Anglo Irish, so shut up using my fuckin culture as a reason for hate, or not wanting them here, funny how the Ireland for the irish crowd are very pro British, tiocfaidh ár lá Úcráin agús glóir ZSU 🇺🇦🇮🇪
A fascinating comment, and great local context. Thank you.
"they simply are Irish conservatives that would like to remain living in what they consider 'the way things should be' in an Irish cultural setting", it's here the problem lies and it like many is far from simple and used as an excuse for ungracious behaviour to say the very least of it to outrageous in many cases, it's the practical application of xenophobia imo.
@@Inclusive_Humanism...nothing simple about all of this...a native of Limavady now an adopted son of Birkenhead...took me years to settle and be accepted..or not...E..
@@eamonnclabby7067 Irishman. You can move to a new area in Ireland as an Irishman and still be what the locals call 'a blow in' for generations, that's the provinciality you're dealing with.
Rural communities in Ireland are not under resourced. Some people who want to be spoonfed by the government make this claim, one that is simply absurd. I know some of those.
The fact this doesn't mention the housing crisis makes me question just how much time the participants have spent discussing Irish working class concerns with the Irish working class. This lack of engagement is what creates the space for populism as people with legitimate concerns feel excluded. All the guy did is say he wants to help them see Ukrainians as people which just brands them as uneducated bigots.
You are absolutely right. Not naming the housing crisis here is remiss. It IS the most significant structural factor framing this debate, and the democratic deficit felt by many people as a consequence. Worth pointing out that we present it as such in all our Kickstarter material, and will present it as such in the film. Live recording nerves rather than bigotry…
@@danieljamesbaldwin8315 Thanks a lot for this. I was suggesting that the portrayal of the affected Irish was suggestive of them being bigoted. Not that anyone in the recording was displaying bigotry. It's great you have this issue covered elsewhere. It is very contentious and important and it is a governmental responsibility that is not being met. Within the debate I would say it was the host's responsibility to bring it up given that it is the number one underlying issue. I was also disappointed that he didn't push when the other guy (the outsider guy) said that anxieties on stressed resources were totally unjustified. Of course 100k extra bodies is going to stress hospitals etc., at least in the short term before new ones are built or existing ones are better resourced - if they even are. It's very counterproductive to sweep these things aside. As well as not tackling the economic repercussions, I would also want to probe if it was just pure generosity that resulted in the government allowing this influx. It could simply be that they want more workers and like inflated asset prices. I've watched this channel regularly for months and have always had the utmost faith in it but to have left structural economic forces out of this discussion has made me question how profound the counter analysis is (i.e. what conditions create the breeding ground for populism and resultant isolationism). Cheers.
Because Ireland has mostly always been culturally homogenous there is a lot of latent racism being seen for the first time as immigration in a more general sense has begun in earnest thanks to so many geopolitical risks to life and livelihood all over the world forcing so many to flee.
Only 16k out of over 100k are working here in Ireland, time for them to start contributing to the Irish economy and paying their way. In no way should they be entitled to more benefits than an Irish citizen, this should and will be addressed soon!
There's always one... 🤨
I think I saw you with a banner 'Ireland to the Irish'
@@fritzraake22 think I saw u in the post office collecting your dole like the rest of the spongers, glad you lot are getting cut off! Get a job or go home !
@@fritzraake22 one? U will find it’s the majority of the country that’s had enough of this charade!