Can confirm the food is better. I had no insurance growing up. When I was 16, I became suicidal (major life crisis while dealing with abusive family) and requested to go to a psychiatric hospital due to concerns over my thoughts. I ended up in an overcrowded state hospital where 30 of the 32 people on my ward were juveniles who had been committed for violent tendencies. Every single thing about this place was a nightmare. Except for the food, which was surprisingly on par with my mothers cooking. Turned out, their cooking crew all had culinary arts degrees.
I’ve worked with A LOT of suicidal people directly in my profession. I have never once seen them externalise their want for ending it by pretending to shoot themselves like that. In the agitated type, they will be looking everywhere in the room to actually find something that will actually harm them. They will try to do actual harm to themselves. Not light scratching. And will be looking to get out of their restraints too. In my experience, there are 2 types of suicidal patients. Some outliers exist, but he is not one. He fell into none of those categories. He evaded detection. He had every chance to actually do that before if he wanted to. His affect changed too much. He wrote himself off to a psych professional within 2 minutes.
as someone who used to be a suicidal people, watching him pretending to be suicidal is honestly so funny. knowing what suicidality looks and feels like, i can't help but laugh at his awful acting
As someone with chronic depression, who used to actually be suicidal, it's easy to fake being "normal". When you live like that everyday, the mask becomes second nature. What's difficult is going the other way and expressing it. We tend to internalize those feelings so much that just talking about it becomes difficult, much less miming for the camera. The first time I really opened up about what I was going through I ended up silently crying for hours afterward, just completely spaced out and exhausted. And honestly? If he were suicidal, he wouldn't have even been able to have a gun in his hands without using it on himself. I sure wouldn't have. When you want to die, you find a way to make it happen, you don't pussyfoot around. And a gun is damn convinient, super quick and no suffering if you do it right. I would have killed (ha) for a gun when I was in that headspace.
Thank you for working with suicidal patients in any capacity. I've been there more than I'd care to admit. I must admit, even though I don't know the second type, I feel as though I'm an outlier myself based on my past behavior. Also, I haven't even watched the video or the channel, I just ran down to the comments section, haha.
JCS usually skips over the repetitive details like reading the rights. As it is something that is expected. I fully believe that there would be intention called if it were flat out skipped
I think they had some videos where they highlight some cases of rights not being read or manipulated. If the usual procedure occurs in the footage it's not mentioned, but I think they docall it out if it's not been mentioned.
Also, that's not usually something they wait until the interrogation room to do. If youre gonna be arrested for idk lets say...shooting up a school and killing 16 people (idk just thought of that off the top of my dome) they gonna read your rights AS they put the cuffs on
For me, this older detective’s interrogation of Cruz is masterly. He is gentle but firm and will not tolerate any BS at all. He cuts right through Cruz’s nonsense by patient, almost avuncular questioning, remaining calm throughout and just ignoring the “crazy talk.” This kid was never going to pull the wool over the eyes of this experienced detective.
Yeah I was like wtf? Then I remembered he's a criminal lawyer so I'm assuming he defends criminals. Those lawyers usually don't get along with cops. Like Saul's banter with cops in Breaking Bad.
Love his comments on the guy who actually was crazy: "His answers are super-intelligent in the sense that there is nothing to argue with about his answers".
Not entirely convinced with the "pretending to hold the gun" thing, but the smile, noticing the camera, then fake crying I think is telling to a degree.
@@neutronstar6739 The report is written up by the police officers that does not mean it actually happened they’re going based on what they believe the see as well
@@iBarkBite I think trained police officers and mental health experts know a bit more about manerisms than you. If it is in the report it is most likely true, they dont just add assumptions for the sake of it.
I worked for a public defender for 7 years. It’s much easier for an insane person to act normal than a normal person to act insane. We had a lot of clients who were inpatient at the St. Peter hospital in MN. Once people are committed they don’t get out unless they go to prison after they are deemed competent.
“Demons man, voices” as a schizophrenic an acknowledgment of knowing the source is external voices while experiencing it is weird. I can only tell in retrospect. Like if I reflect on yesterday I might notice but during no. If during you notice you then can make semi logical decisions.
Unfortunately it's people like that that give mental illness a bad name. He probably learned that while institutionalized as a kid from other manipulative kids who used that as an excuse for their behaviors
Vincent Kinney were you trying to say it’s bad as in the terror it causes to the sufferer? Or as in the behaviors inflicted onto others while in a terrified state?
@Vincent Kinney I understand what you’re saying here and I don’t disagree, I just wanted to say I think Brad was referring to the stigma around mental health, (by saying it has a “bad name”) specifically in America, the mentally ill are treated quite poorly.
I really like these court case videos,they show that even though blicky bruce is a certified drillogosist and a funnyman,he also has this deep understanding of humanity. Rock on bruce!
I lived in Broward after the shooting and people said the cops became a lot friendlier but a lot more high-alert since this happened. The conventional thing to say to a BSO if you get stopped for smoking weed is "You sat outside for 14 minutes while my friends were massacred, fuck right off". They're tryna do better now, only really hunting violent criminals
Surprised how accurate this is. I’ve assessed patients that were committed to state hospitals for a form of monitored release in CA. One patient would’ve done 2 years in prison but took an insanity plea. He was committed for 14 years (because he wouldn’t stop breaking rules in the hospital)
Yeah I have known shit like that over here in England buddy, a mate of mine went to jail and he couldn’t cope so he got himself put onto the hospital wing and then he started anti-psychotic drugs, he went to court and got a result so every time he got into trouble he played up and he got put inside a state institution and he was given his injection at night then a little while later, a student nurse came on duty and gave him another injection and he was found on the toilet, it’s a terrible story really, although it was total negligence on behalf of the system his family didn’t receive a single penny because, his sister told me that there had to be, so many micrograms or whatever it is, that has to be in his bloodstream and it only showed up so many but not enough for negligence to proven I think it’s disgusting to be totally honest with you, okay he should of said that he had had the night injection a bit earlier maybe but, it should’ve been documented by the nurse that gave him his injection a little bit earlier and the student nurse should’ve never gave him his injection without checking his papers at the end of the bed, gross negligence by the system as usual.
It's not Canada. In Canada they released Vince Li. The Greyhound incident guy in like 3 years. I won't go in to what he did as it's too sickening even to post.
@@HumanHamCube People learn to fake being normal to get out of mental health institutions much more and much better than they fake mental illness to get in. In my experience I have seen people come out of the hospital that are still a danger to themselves or others, but of course they learned to stop telling the doctors that and learned to "fake" or pass well enough for healthy while I can sit in a room with them for 10 min and I see their eyes dart to the corners or the door when no one is there and I can tell they are still hallucinating and/or psychotic. It's a horrific pain to find them another hospital bed again. Sometimes I want to ask staff "Are you blind? How could you not tell this person is still not in touch with reality? TRY to TALK to them!". Many learn to read certain staff and staff need to be on their game however and so many places are understaffed and many staff work very long shifts (over 40 hrs) and can't give the proper focus the job requires. It's a horrific system in the US. We also have no way to prevent crime even when we know someone is dangerous to others as almost nowhere will take people who are a danger to others for mental illness other than prisons, which doesn't actually fix the problem. Even long term hospital facilities won't take people who are true dangers to others BEFORE a crime is committed when we have proof of significant plans to harm others. It sucks.
@@HumanHamCube Same with Jeffery Arenberg, he killed sportscaster, Brian Smith, aka,Smitty in 1995. He was released also, he got re-admitted to the Psychiatric Prison in Penetanguishene, Ontario, shortly after his release, for a breach of his conditions, then died in the Prison in 2017.
I’ve witnessed and experienced psychosis from mental health several times and I don’t think I could fake an episode. My personality really doesn’t change my perception and understanding of what is going on around me does. Natural “mind wandering” is hard to fake.
@@rydoyt1483 it doesn’t make you look like you are faking it, even to the most inexperienced eye there is a very clear differences. Faking psychosis is extremely difficult, even world class actors make slip ups
100% agree on this. Ive never personally experienced psychosis but i believe my boyfriend had a three day episode of it after getting a concussion from Hitting his head on a door knob, if i had recognized he got one i would have immediately taken him to the hospital. He hallucinationed people, didnt go to work, and didnt recognize not doing tasks, like ex. His dad is his employer and he was calling when i came in realizing hed not gone to work. I said "why aren't you at work? Your dad is calling you" He didn't even look at me and said "i know i already talked to him" i later confirmed he had not with his dad because he didn't seem coherent and id honestly thought he was drunk. He kept thinking ppl were at the door. And at one point began walking around with his emergency pistol. I was terrified but luckily that was the whole of the situation. He says he doesnt remember any of it at all, and i think youd have to be an incredible actor to play off true psychosis
I was diagnosed with psychosis 2 years ago and can confirm its very difficult to fake it. One always remains alert and has constant feeling of anxiety/unrest. Auditory hallucinations are also a part of it. And I always felt like people are trying to get me or someone is trying to contact me. So an actor really has to portray constant anxiety,fear,unrest and also alertness at the same time which is really difficult and would be mentally tiring.
Don’t you love it when they ask if you are seeing and hearing things that aren’t there. I’m like - I don’t know? Maybe I’m worse off - but I end up not able to discern real from fake. The night they admitted me - I spent about 24 hours believing the mental facility was actually a rave and every person was wearing undershirt tanks and black lights and music. 2 years later - discovered 2mg Ativan puts me out of my mind. They drugged me up to transfer me to the hospital and in the first night I escaped a secure area, climbed a 6ft cabinet and fell off and crawled down a whole hallway and called 911 for help and had a seizure. That bought me a private room in a unit with only 7 patients. Worst rave ever. (Never been to a rave) also worst hospital. Crazy looks all kind of different - even with the same patient.
I worked in a state mental hospital. Some long term (10 year +) patients were there because they were found not guilty by reason of insanity. A Psychiatrist would have to declare them “safe” to release. Had they just been found guilty, they would have served 3 to 6 years and been freed.
God, imagine how utterly horrifying it would be to learn that not only has your sibling been brutally murdered, but that the killer was talking to you so casually all while you're completely unaware. That's heart-wrenching and so sick...
If I recall correctly, the sister wasn't actually killed, just shot and in critical condition for some time after. I believe she survived eventually recovered to some degree, though.
Well yeah. He's fearless and not in the good way. It's actually depressing when you think about it. He had no self-preservation whatsoever and was fine with the death sentence. That's the real sadness in criminal cases. No boohoo stories or excuses just lacking the human condition.
I wonder what the "sir" is for at the end of everything Gerard Murray(?) says. Is it subservience as in "I'm complying, don't hurt me" or "I'm a good respectful boy. You can't seriously believe I would do this"? Neither of these seem to fit. Maybe just "We're on the same team and I recognise your authority"? But EVERY sentence. It's very noticeable. It's some kind of choice for sure.
@@dionlindsay2he seems to accept the cops authority, purely neutrally. he addresses him how he thinks the cop would like to be addressed, or how he thinks he should address a cop in the legal system.
Oh my god, I love your commentary. Something about watching a professional attorney calling someone a prick is a genre of entertainment I didn't know I've been missing out on till now XD
I spent 3 days at a juvenile mental health complex for suicidal tendencies as a teen. In reality I had never seriously considered killing myself, I was always way too scared to and I cared too much about my life, I was just trying to manipulate my parents into ungrounding me. Well regardless the police came and they took me to the place, but after a few days there they sent me home. They could just tell I wasn’t suicidal at all, mostly because I enjoyed my time there. For me it was a vacation from school since it was in the middle of the week, and I actually liked a lot of the kids there. Was a little awkward during the discussion periods where the kids would talk about harming themselves, punching walls, etc. and meanwhile I had never so much as harmed a fly, but meh I thought it was pretty worth it. Additionally they would ask everyone every morning whether they had thought about killing themselves the day before, and I always said no bc I was just being honest. My mom was both relieved and super pissed off when she came to pick me up. Moral of the story: even if u can fool ur inner circle and even the police in my case, ur not going to keep the charade up once u get there. It’s too exhausting, u will break eventually. These ppl who commit serious crimes know they fucked up, and they deserve no amount of sympathy, but I always prefer when they own their shit and live with it. These mfs who try to dodge it are the scum of the earth, complete wastes of space
I actually liked everything you said, especially the part about your mom being pissed because she found out you were lieing with something very serious 😂😂😂 but good you learned quickly that lying for something so stupid was not worth trying to live a life of lies, just to avoid consequences 🙏🏾
As an undergraduate I worked for a criminal psychologist. Her a few of my other psych professors said they stopped doing therapy and started teaching because they were scared for their lives. These cases are so interesting, but chilling at the same time, both the criminally insane and the sane ones.
My mother was a serious schizophrenic, constantly paranoid that someone wanted to murder her and would sometimes have biolent reactions to hallucinations. For years I went to sleep wondering if I wouldn't wake up the next day because her hallucinations caused her to kill me.
JCS is the BEST! It's unfortunate UA-cam has censored and removed 90% of his videos. It was very informative, great storytelling, pacing, and execution. All ruined because of the algorithm bot and YT's direction to cater towards advertiser friendly viewership.
@@kristelbrok998 Sadly, a lot of them seem to have significant amount of content removed. I noticed the Lazarus video has about half of the original video removed, including the part where the context behind the crime is discussed.
@@z54964380 well i feel like hes attempting to come off that way... but hes just scared, confused & has been bullied alot so to me it seems like he puts up shields & what not, now it doesnt justify what he did... but i feel like he puts this front on because he A. is weak B. thinks that is what shows strength C. watches to many movies & thinks thats how ONE should act its just truly sad that this kid got lost within his thoughts & truly believed that THIS event would cement him as "something" but sadly he doesnt realize that everything he has been trying to project is not only insane ( not like insane in the same of "crazy" ) but insane in the sense of how would he think that this was good for future but sadly he lost hes family n was staying with a loving family so not only did it drive him insane that he lost his family, but also that others have loving familys... truly a sad case & alot of people should have seen the clear signs of distress..... also the family he was staying with LET him use the firearms n told him where they were n the combo to the safe... i still personally feel like they should be charged with something aswell because as a gun owner you are suppose to be responsible... & everything they did allowed this monster EASY access to said firearms or maybe im getting that confused BUT he did own firearms that the family had the keys to the safe ( which they thought they had the only key ) but yeah so many red flags ignored with him, also HOW did he get all this money to purchase as many firearms as he did... & ammo, the real thing about gun reform, is you dont even need to ban guns or take away certain things etc or even gun registry... i feel like a few simple things could tackle alot of issues maybe not all of them, but would atlest put up some road blocks... now for starters, each month the gun stores need to have a list of how many firearms were sold, what types, how many to each person, how often said persons came in & bought weapons along with ammo, if tons & tons of purchases are happening in a fast manner guns or ammo & in large quantity's that needs to be looked at, now not saying they go n harass said person but like the FBI can check to see, do they have a Facebook, Instagram or other social medias or youtube channels etc & check them out, have they made threats, hell even check discord, & its as simple as checking do they have a internet provider or live within a home that does, & you can check the searches & sites visited coming from said house, now if HUGE red flags stand out NOW they can make a visit to said house & start asking some questions on to why all the said red flags are happening if the answers seen good, then move on BUT keep them on a list to watch over JUST in case they flip out one day. There are legit SOOO many options of things we can do that dont violate the 2nd amendment but also helps to start limiting these horrible events... i think almost like 92% of mass shootings within the past 25 years have all had CLEAR signs that could have atlest been mitigated or even prevented... but man sorry for the book length response xD
Can we just appreciate that this man went and got a college degree and passed the exam to become a lawyer just to drop bombs filled with knowledge and comedy at the same time? First video I've seen and I'm already hooked.
I watched this video a while back and just today said man what if my boy Bruce reacted to this and broke it down for us. And BAM not even an hour later I’m here. Spoke into existence or something
@@CLRBruceRivers thank god why have we stopped hearing ab Epstein as in where are all the other pedos he was friends with. I get that they need evidence to arrest and convict people but shit even our former President flew with Epstein over 25 times. If you need some info on the case watch joe rogans clips discussing it
@@scotthill1600 I hate how everyone forgot about its importance and moved onto the next issue at hand. I also would like to see a lawyer break it down since most of the information seen about the cases are what is being told by mainstream media and we all know who Robert Maxwell had in his pockets.
Do you think that Real Life Mental Illness looks like some anime or? He's clearly copying shit he saw on TV in a pre rehearsed manner if you watch him closely enough,he's also not going for a specific mental illness so it looks morelike he saw one too many gang weed memes than he is truly insane.
This guy totally just randomly popped up in my suggested vid feed. It auto played and I was skeptical, generally looking for a reason to put this guy down but the bad guy was just guilty beyond belief haha
I'm starting to really enjoy this channel, how he does not mind not always being formal like many other lawyer/court youtubers, bordering on political incorrectness. All of it is very entertaining and hilarious.
Thats not what the man said and he actually made a pretty good point. Retribution is a sign that the person had purpose to kill and therefore something not found in the criminally insane. Which further concludes that he is not insane.
As someone who is mentally ill, most people are. So many people fall through the cracks or just never get help because we “seem fine”. If we’re not an over-exaggerated stereotype, we can’t possibly be “crazy”. People like the faker in the beginning assume ableist horror movies are what mentally disabled and mentally ill people are like. It’s funny cause some things are almost true, like the hand fidgeting. Autistic people do it a lot, and are bad at making eye contact. I assume the first guy is attempting to emulate autistic stereotypes, which is funny cause autism isn’t even a mental illness.
Fr? I thought it was pretty easy to tell bc he’s being so obvious about it bc he was over-explaining everything and no suicidal person points finger guns at themselves like that and if he was actually suicidal he would’ve killed himself when he had the chance, he would’ve tried getting out of the restraints and would’ve actually made himself bleed from biting/scratching, imo he was god awful at acting crazy
@@mlgfin If he was actually suicidal, he would've done the world a favor and painted the walls with what little brains he had. The Columbine shooters shot themselves, Elliot Rodger shot himself, the Vegas shooter shot himself, etc etc etc.
One thing I've noticed during the Jared Murray interview is when the detective asks him "What do you think should happen to you?" Jared replied "Death sentence sir." You can hear in his voice some emotion. He reluctantly answers and knows that this could be the case.
Didn't notice that at first, but you're right, his voice cracks a bit while he's saying it. He knows he just threw his life away, and he's probably thinking death is his best option. Still doesn't make it any easier to summon your own death. Even for an "emotionless" killer.
There's also a long pause before he says "because I was planning to take him out into the country and kill him", like he's reluctant to say it. He also seems to be playing with his hands a bit under the desk - nerves?
What you heard was relief. He wasn't afraid or scared. He knew what he did when he did it. He also knew what the consequences were. He just doesn't care.
Even though it isn't necessary to get a motive for the murder(s), wouldn't it be better to get one for the prosecutor so they can prove their guilt to the jury?
Yes. I'm not a lawyer but I believe it not only helps prove them as being physically guilty but it also shows that they had Mens Rea, which is to say they had criminal intent, which I believe is very important for cases but especially so in ones where they try to fake mental illnesses
It absolutely helps Bruce is right They don't need a motive however establishing a motive can be used while cross-examining him if he chose to testify which would be stupid but it can also be used in an opening or closing statement establishing a reason for the crime
I think what people need to understand is that “insanity” isn’t a mental health diagnosis. It is a legal definition, and a very flawed one at that. 1) it is very open to manipulation and 2) it can often leave out people who do have mental health issues. A Schizophrenic person might have an understanding that murder is against the law. They might understand that police officers will arrest them for the crime. But they can have some other delusion that overrides their fear of consequence. They might even try to hide the crime because they know that murder is illegal. If a made up person believed the person they killed was a demon who was going to kill them, but they also believed that the victim’s status as a demon was unknown, so the police would arrest them. Is this person legally insane? Probably not. They knew the crime was illegal and even tried to hide the body. But are the actually culpable for a murder? My opinion is probably not. They have a severe mental delusion This country needs to have a very serious talk about mental health and the law.
Can you explain what the legal definition is? Because I’ve always understood it to be someone who is incapable of clearly seeing right from wrong. You have explained quite well how for example schizophrenic patients might have delusions leading them to consciously violate the law. I think that you’re describing the same thing differently, unless I’m totally mistaken. If they think it’s the right thing to do, it doesn’t really matter that they still knew it was illegal. They couldn’t tell right from wrong because of their mental illness right? (Not arguing at all I know very little about this, genuinely just asking)
The country was outraged when Hinckley was found not guilty of shooting Reagan and killing a federal officer and shooting another. After that there was a big shift in criminal mental health issues.
We're always having those conversations. And if a schizophrenic person murders someone while having an episode they'll generally walk. To be found not mentally sane at the time of the crime the person has to be unaware of what they were doing, or what they were doing was wrong.
One big one that I always see from watching Mr ballen stories are people who are very tight lip to the police but then will immediately spill everything and brag about what they did to their cellmate. There was one Vancouver guy who for about 20 years was butchering people on his pig farm and then just decided to spill the beans to a cellmate. same with a guy who killed a woman and stole her shoes like 30 years ago and did such a good job of hiding it that it was a famous Cold Case that was never solved and immediately upon the Cold Case reopening and him being put in jail for questioning he also admitted everything to his cellmate
@24:03 The cop is tearing grass, as a proxy for what he would rather be destroying, point's for professional self restraint. The officer probably knew at least one of the victims.
Thats a very interesting observation! He even said “shut up man” in a passive manner, is if in a subtle state of shock. But idk, i have a weird habit of tearing grass or leaves while having normal conversations in an outdoor setting so it could be more innocent than it looks. After all, this ain’t just a regular criminal. Its a teen who just killed 17 ppl and harmed another 17 more. Cop couldve been distraught from the fact that kind of person was right in front of him… although though we dont know those details until the victims are confirmed dead and the victims admitted into the hospital.
@@estetico9282 it sounds like the shut up came from the officer on top of the kid, not the officer with the pov either way, the tearing grass as an analogy for tearing the kid feels a bit too English teacher for me lmao. idk bout you guys but it makes far more sense for that to be a super stressful situation- therefore fidgeting lol
I love your channel! You’re absolutely down to earth and so on point! You bring humor and next level intelligence/professionalism. So glad I found you!
Thank you Bruce Rivers for providing another video for us. I know it takes a lot of analysis time with editing videos and coming up with Contin. I appreciate your work. Sending you your son and your family my very best from Pennsylvania USA
I've seen several interrogations of killers who were found incompetent to stand trial. They were all very, very similar...they described exactly what happened in great detail, with no affect in their voice at all. A couple of them explained why they "had to" commit the murders. And although the reasons made no logical sense (in one case, he needed his victim's strength), they were related in the same flat, matter-of-fact way. Everything they were saying made perfect sense to them. None of them were pretending to see invisible people, or hear demons telling them what to do. None of them had exaggerated or manic mannerisms. None of them were yelling out nonsensical things. I've seen all those behaviours in suspects pretending to be mentally ill. There's such a noticeable difference in behaviour between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is acting like they think someone who is mentally ill acts.
The first guy totally watched Primal Fear and thought since it worked in the movie it will work in real life, he totally copied Ed Norton's characters in Primal Fear and The Score
I thought the stuttering and the hand movements were more like Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. But either way, dude came across as a wannabe actor doing crazy as opposed to actually mentally ill.
I saw this interrogation of Murray. He was a scary dude. It's not just the intelligence but the matter of factness that he presented his story of killing someone from college. So very matter of fact.
Exactly! And his reasoning too is very strange. He didn't feel guilty for the murder, but he didn't enjoy it either, it was just something he did? It's difficult to wrap your head around.
ive been psychotic on numerous occasions and its really realy hard to differentiate voices and sentences that are real to ones that arent. Little example: i literally heard dead friends, or family that 100% was not in town (living in another country at the time) standing in front of my windows yelling and cursing at me. Never saw a single person, not even shadow persons, in front of my windows. Shadow people are usually silent anyway. in hindsight its easy to differentiate, but while being psychotic there is like 0,00001% chance i can differentiate between real and unreal.
My sister was schizophrenic. It's easy to tell the difference! I feel for you. She used to accuse us of putting thoughts into her head. It was very painful for her and she was never violent.
I have schizoaffective disorder. It sounds like you can tell the difference between reality and hallucinations(shadow people) but you can’t tell with the voices. Do you forget during psychotic episodes that they have passed on or that they don’t live near you? I have always viewed schizophrenia as living in a dream state while your wide awake. I think it’s easier to view the voices as you would when your hear voices in a dream..the voices are being created in our minds..they might closely resemble the real person we’re thinking of but it’s a dream so they might not even talk like the original real person sounds at all. Thinking it’s just a dream got me through a lot of nightmare situations. I hope you can find a way to tell the difference. I feel for you, that must be really hard to deal with.
Have you tried using headphones? I know it doesn't work for everyone but it's such a simple tool to use for some people. When you hear the voices put the headphones on, do the voices change/soften/muffle or are they still as loud and clear? If there's no change, you know it's not real. Of course it's easier to suggest than actually do, and I know many people cannot get to every tool when in an episode, but they're worth trying if you haven't already ❤
“ indicative of being a complete prick “ Lordt a medical evaluator would never be allowed to verbalize this fact. This man is a complete professional I totally trust his judgment. Lol
14:25 Of course the "motive, means, and opportunity" crime fiction trope are nonsense, but establishing a motive is used to undermine anticipated claims of insanity as part of a detective's broader effort to get the suspect to commit to a narrative.
@@digitalsoop Definitely. Two different people could both stab someone to death, but if one's motive was malicious and the other's was self defence that would make their cases play out quite differently. Reason matters in the justice system.
Motive, means and opportunity whilst they aren't actual proofs. Is a good breakdown of essentially what a Jury would need to know/hear in a case where there is no direct evidence, and very little strong circumstantial evidence. (Contrary to what people think about "circumstantial case", DNA and Fingerprints are both circumstantial evidence. They don't prove you killed or committed a crime, and if all you have is those, then you too have a circumstantial case) The prosecution will have a narrative that they are trying to get the Jury to believe, the without strong evidence, like DNA or fingerprints, or direct evidence, then a good way to do that is to show motive, means and opportunity and how the available evidence, helps to prove that, or how those things, help the evidence prove the crime. Opportunity is a missing alibi. You could have done it. Means, had the ability to kill them. In the case of a murder where someone is overpowered, then if the defendant is a 6'4 UFC fighter, that's an obvious means Motive a reason to kill, goes a long way to proving beyond reasonable doubt that the person committed a crime. It's harder to make someone believe that you killed someone, if you have no reason to. That would be the definition of reasonable doubt. No reason to commit the crime.
7:22 I worked in psychiatric facilities for 10 years and Even just working there is enough to drive you mad. The turnover for nursing staff is insane because people just can't handle it. The shrieking and getting attacked and listening to ranting and arguing with nothing all day. It's truly an environment out of a horror movie. I would much rather deal with regular prisoners. It takes a very strong constitution to work there and I wouldn't ever want to be committed to one if I was sane, because I guarantee you once you get out, you're not going to be anymore.
When you mentioned intelligence being frequently associated with many deemed mentally incompetent, I immediately thought of Matthew Harris. His extremely high level of education coupled with his 803 page manifesto and his videos…WOW. It will be interesting to see what shakes out with his case!
Having suffered with schizoeffective disorder for nearly a decade, and my own family refuting it, this pisses me off to no end. This is the type of nonsense which leads many to believe mental health issues are "just an excuse".
That 'just an excuse' is a legitimate factor. But it is not an excuse to ignore someone claiming to have mental health issues. Although, I have the opposite problem. People forced me into mental health issues all my life, and I've been trying to get out of it my entire life. Nobody treats me human cuz of it.
I sympathize with your condition. Unfortunately, the police are not doctors and have to assess on the fly. Plus criminals can be unscrupulous in trying to get off. It's a no win situation for all.
This video hit the youtube algorithm perfectly, I watched it then was at my boys house and he put it on from recommended and the 5 of us were watching and discussing it and now here is Bruce sure enough breaking it down for us🙌🏼💯
Knowing how thorough and comprehensive JCS is (I believe I’ve seen every video he’s made, including of course the many that totally vanished from UA-cam, about 6 to.9 months ago. At least, I can’t find them anywhere, after several long searches), I’m sure his Miranda Rights were read correctly at some point. I say this because JCS is the sort of creator who is THE first to point out if this, or something else as important and fundamental to the process as this, is ever omitted, or done incorrectly.
Hello there! Just wanted to let you know that JCS also has a Patreon and that’s where most of the videos that vanished from YT went. They don’t advertise it but it only a buck a month
@@colleenwhitman9040 JCS actually got hit hard by youtube's ridiculous "offensive content" system a while back. Even among the videos still on the channel, many have been edited and pruned to remove some of the more graphic details - the original video on the Stephanie Lazarus interrogation is twice as long as the one currently on youtube. You're absolutely right about his patreon, though.
@@devarious5004 Are you sure it was UA-cam that doctored his videos? Some contributors who start off on UA-cam, tend to open up a Patreon channel once their videos become widely popular. They will then transfer all their work to Patroen but leave a shortened version of the video on YT with a link or promotion to their Patreon channel. I am not sure which of the two channels generate the more revenue. I also notice that one or two creators tend to come back to YT after a couple of months and I wonder if it's because they don't realise the same number of viewers on their other channel.
@@KebabMusicLtd JCS originally had their videos up on patreon as well as a selection of exclusive videos that youtube wouldn't allow, and access to the entire library was $1 a month. JCS announced maybe a year later that they would no longer be uploading to that patreon, that all future videos would be on youtube, and all patrons may wish to unsubscribe. I'm one of the many who have chosen not to unsubscribe and instead feel as though that $1 outgoing every month is the most worthwhile subscription I maintain, and JCS' entire history with patreon here has earned them my complete trust that they wouldn't truncate their videos to encourage revenue flow.
Omg 😆 I love this I’m literally less than three minutes in “retribution isn’t indicative of a mental health issue it’s indicative of being a prick”. Lol that was golden!
Hello ! I like your videos a lot, great glimpse into the USA justice system. I like the way you present the cases, no nonsense, funny, down to earth, no frill. If I can make a suggestion : would you consider placing the miniature videos on the upleft corner rather than on the downleft corner ? That would enable those of us who need to turn the subtitles on, to do so without hiding the miniature video completely. Thank you !
Hi! I know this is a late reply. But you can move the captions too, if you drag them with the cursor. I just found that out by accident not too long ago
5:12 😂 the cop is deflecting it right back at him! "Well if you would really like one; would you really really really like one [along with a yummy ice cream 🍦 cone?]
Finally someone who doesn't have a typical cookie cutter " You Tube " vocabulary ..... I like a guy who actually calls Bull shit and drops an F bomb here and there . Subbed 👍
"Members of the jury; j hope the defendants actions are apparent to you and that you decide that his actions are indicative of him being a total prick. Thank you for your time."
"It's indicative of being a complete prick." I laughed so hard at this.
I meannnn he’s definitely not wrong at all 😂
See my comments.
How did I miss that?? Do you have a time stamp? :)
@@jaycievictory8461 2:11
@@desk582 Thank you :)
Can confirm the food is better. I had no insurance growing up. When I was 16, I became suicidal (major life crisis while dealing with abusive family) and requested to go to a psychiatric hospital due to concerns over my thoughts.
I ended up in an overcrowded state hospital where 30 of the 32 people on my ward were juveniles who had been committed for violent tendencies.
Every single thing about this place was a nightmare. Except for the food, which was surprisingly on par with my mothers cooking. Turned out, their cooking crew all had culinary arts degrees.
Respect
Hospital food is usually delicious
@@doomd1816 Sometimes
@@strangeclouds7 They did say usually
Who asked?
I will never forget the Parkland defense lawyer laughing with him and “subtly” flicking off everyone else in court.
I'll never forget her being dragged for it either.
Ha. I loved that
I’ve worked with A LOT of suicidal people directly in my profession. I have never once seen them externalise their want for ending it by pretending to shoot themselves like that. In the agitated type, they will be looking everywhere in the room to actually find something that will actually harm them. They will try to do actual harm to themselves. Not light scratching. And will be looking to get out of their restraints too. In my experience, there are 2 types of suicidal patients. Some outliers exist, but he is not one. He fell into none of those categories. He evaded detection. He had every chance to actually do that before if he wanted to. His affect changed too much. He wrote himself off to a psych professional within 2 minutes.
See my comments. Perhaps you'd like to field the questions yourself.
@Chuck Jones what part of their comment would give that impression
as someone who used to be a suicidal people, watching him pretending to be suicidal is honestly so funny. knowing what suicidality looks and feels like, i can't help but laugh at his awful acting
As someone with chronic depression, who used to actually be suicidal, it's easy to fake being "normal". When you live like that everyday, the mask becomes second nature. What's difficult is going the other way and expressing it. We tend to internalize those feelings so much that just talking about it becomes difficult, much less miming for the camera. The first time I really opened up about what I was going through I ended up silently crying for hours afterward, just completely spaced out and exhausted.
And honestly? If he were suicidal, he wouldn't have even been able to have a gun in his hands without using it on himself. I sure wouldn't have. When you want to die, you find a way to make it happen, you don't pussyfoot around. And a gun is damn convinient, super quick and no suffering if you do it right. I would have killed (ha) for a gun when I was in that headspace.
Thank you for working with suicidal patients in any capacity. I've been there more than I'd care to admit.
I must admit, even though I don't know the second type, I feel as though I'm an outlier myself based on my past behavior.
Also, I haven't even watched the video or the channel, I just ran down to the comments section, haha.
JCS usually skips over the repetitive details like reading the rights. As it is something that is expected. I fully believe that there would be intention called if it were flat out skipped
I think they had some videos where they highlight some cases of rights not being read or manipulated. If the usual procedure occurs in the footage it's not mentioned, but I think they docall it out if it's not been mentioned.
JCS is the king
See my comment.
@@ThirteenAmp JCS is king🤴🏻👌🏻
Also, that's not usually something they wait until the interrogation room to do. If youre gonna be arrested for idk lets say...shooting up a school and killing 16 people (idk just thought of that off the top of my dome) they gonna read your rights AS they put the cuffs on
For me, this older detective’s interrogation of Cruz is masterly. He is gentle but firm and will not tolerate any BS at all. He cuts right through Cruz’s nonsense by patient, almost avuncular questioning, remaining calm throughout and just ignoring the “crazy talk.” This kid was never going to pull the wool over the eyes of this experienced detective.
"He's a nice guy"
- His Demon
Quick note of thanks for a professional use of the word "avuncular." It's always nice to see that word in the wild like this.
@@RJStocktonI just added a new word to my vocabulary because of this comment so cheers to you both lol
@@RJStocktonhaha! I was gonna say that too😁🤜🤛
There were also Coldsteel Cruz´s cringe manifestos.
Lol this man should be a character in GTA 6
😂😂
Bruce or the kid? Cause I can see both
Possibly the most under rated comment I have ever seen
@@shagbabyyeah both
Missions would be crazy 😂
“That cop hasn’t refused a whole lot of lunches” 💀 outta pocket
The body-shaming was not necessary
@@DeathnoteBB wasn't necessary but well appreciated because it was funny
Lol just couldn’t help himself as a defense attorney
More like hot pockets.
He probably felt bad for the criminal.
"demons man, voices,demons" this is a good intro for a death/black metal song
“This man clearly hasn’t denied many lunches” dawg why did you do him like that he’s just trying to do his job 😭💀
He hates cops anti constitutional tactics.
LOOOL I was like =O
Yeah I was like wtf? Then I remembered he's a criminal lawyer so I'm assuming he defends criminals. Those lawyers usually don't get along with cops. Like Saul's banter with cops in Breaking Bad.
@@thomasmacgruber6701 And what does that have to do with his body size?
@@DeathnoteBB it just means he doesn't like cops. But fr he didn't need to go at him like that though
Love his comments on the guy who actually was crazy: "His answers are super-intelligent in the sense that there is nothing to argue with about his answers".
"That's not being crazy, that's just being bad at acting." BRUH got roasted 🔥
A certified hood classic this is.
Stop Self Snitching Hat on the table 🔥
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Also shotgun willy
@@Howess verify deez nuts
Not entirely convinced with the "pretending to hold the gun" thing, but the smile, noticing the camera, then fake crying I think is telling to a degree.
I mean yeah I don't see him trying to hold a gun neither but you can see he smiled
It was in the report so it's not JCS that was reaching there.
@@neutronstar6739 The report is written up by the police officers that does not mean it actually happened they’re going based on what they believe the see as well
@@iBarkBite While that is true, I think that Neutron Star was just saying it was the officers who wrote the report that were reaching, not JCS.
@@iBarkBite I think trained police officers and mental health experts know a bit more about manerisms than you. If it is in the report it is most likely true, they dont just add assumptions for the sake of it.
I worked for a public defender for 7 years. It’s much easier for an insane person to act normal than a normal person to act insane. We had a lot of clients who were inpatient at the St. Peter hospital in MN. Once people are committed they don’t get out unless they go to prison after they are deemed competent.
bruce rivers hes the criminal lawyer
Excellent point. Very interesting ty
“Demons man, voices” as a schizophrenic an acknowledgment of knowing the source is external voices while experiencing it is weird. I can only tell in retrospect. Like if I reflect on yesterday I might notice but during no. If during you notice you then can make semi logical decisions.
Unfortunately it's people like that that give mental illness a bad name. He probably learned that while institutionalized as a kid from other manipulative kids who used that as an excuse for their behaviors
@Vincent Kinney lol you should look in a mirror
@Vincent Kinney so your saying diabetes and other medical diseases shouldn’t have a bad name?
Vincent Kinney were you trying to say it’s bad as in the terror it causes to the sufferer? Or as in the behaviors inflicted onto others while in a terrified state?
@Vincent Kinney I understand what you’re saying here and I don’t disagree, I just wanted to say I think Brad was referring to the stigma around mental health, (by saying it has a “bad name”) specifically in America, the mentally ill are treated quite poorly.
I really like these court case videos,they show that even though blicky bruce is a certified drillogosist and a funnyman,he also has this deep understanding of humanity. Rock on bruce!
@@dinglerange his pfp is the finnish president, nowhere near south africa
Me too
Aijjaa
@Black Rebel musta kapinallinen helvetti!
See my comments.
"Stop calling me sir."
"Yes sir."
24:20 “what happened” “shut up” 😂😂
😂😂😂
Lmao that cracked me up
@@Mullato2012 👍
I lived in Broward after the shooting and people said the cops became a lot friendlier but a lot more high-alert since this happened. The conventional thing to say to a BSO if you get stopped for smoking weed is "You sat outside for 14 minutes while my friends were massacred, fuck right off". They're tryna do better now, only really hunting violent criminals
Perfect response.
Bruce really reacts to all the right shit. Much respect, can't wait to watch through this.
His decision making skills and thought process is on point .. esp given his profession being law ..
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He really does
@@MoAli-wm4of well duh he is a great lawyer, all great lawyers should strive to be like this.
See my comments.
Surprised how accurate this is. I’ve assessed patients that were committed to state hospitals for a form of monitored release in CA. One patient would’ve done 2 years in prison but took an insanity plea. He was committed for 14 years (because he wouldn’t stop breaking rules in the hospital)
Yeah I have known shit like that over here in England buddy, a mate of mine went to jail and he couldn’t cope so he got himself put onto the hospital wing and then he started anti-psychotic drugs, he went to court and got a result so every time he got into trouble he played up and he got put inside a state institution and he was given his injection at night then a little while later, a student nurse came on duty and gave him another injection and he was found on the toilet, it’s a terrible story really, although it was total negligence on behalf of the system his family didn’t receive a single penny because, his sister told me that there had to be, so many micrograms or whatever it is, that has to be in his bloodstream and it only showed up so many but not enough for negligence to proven I think it’s disgusting to be totally honest with you, okay he should of said that he had had the night injection a bit earlier maybe but, it should’ve been documented by the nurse that gave him his injection a little bit earlier and the student nurse should’ve never gave him his injection without checking his papers at the end of the bed, gross negligence by the system as usual.
It's not Canada. In Canada they released Vince Li. The Greyhound incident guy in like 3 years. I won't go in to what he did as it's too sickening even to post.
@@HumanHamCube People learn to fake being normal to get out of mental health institutions much more and much better than they fake mental illness to get in. In my experience I have seen people come out of the hospital that are still a danger to themselves or others, but of course they learned to stop telling the doctors that and learned to "fake" or pass well enough for healthy while I can sit in a room with them for 10 min and I see their eyes dart to the corners or the door when no one is there and I can tell they are still hallucinating and/or psychotic. It's a horrific pain to find them another hospital bed again. Sometimes I want to ask staff "Are you blind? How could you not tell this person is still not in touch with reality? TRY to TALK to them!". Many learn to read certain staff and staff need to be on their game however and so many places are understaffed and many staff work very long shifts (over 40 hrs) and can't give the proper focus the job requires. It's a horrific system in the US. We also have no way to prevent crime even when we know someone is dangerous to others as almost nowhere will take people who are a danger to others for mental illness other than prisons, which doesn't actually fix the problem. Even long term hospital facilities won't take people who are true dangers to others BEFORE a crime is committed when we have proof of significant plans to harm others. It sucks.
@@HumanHamCube Same with Jeffery Arenberg, he killed sportscaster, Brian Smith, aka,Smitty in 1995. He was released also, he got re-admitted to the Psychiatric Prison in Penetanguishene, Ontario, shortly after his release, for a breach of his conditions, then died in the Prison in 2017.
@@HumanHamCube I just heard about this case a few months ago. Absolutely haunting.
I’ve witnessed and experienced psychosis from mental health several times and I don’t think I could fake an episode. My personality really doesn’t change my perception and understanding of what is going on around me does. Natural “mind wandering” is hard to fake.
Same & with all the losers that pretends to be crazy makes us look like we’re faking it….
@@rydoyt1483 it doesn’t make you look like you are faking it, even to the most inexperienced eye there is a very clear differences.
Faking psychosis is extremely difficult, even world class actors make slip ups
100% agree on this. Ive never personally experienced psychosis but i believe my boyfriend had a three day episode of it after getting a concussion from Hitting his head on a door knob, if i had recognized he got one i would have immediately taken him to the hospital. He hallucinationed people, didnt go to work, and didnt recognize not doing tasks, like ex. His dad is his employer and he was calling when i came in realizing hed not gone to work. I said "why aren't you at work? Your dad is calling you"
He didn't even look at me and said "i know i already talked to him" i later confirmed he had not with his dad because he didn't seem coherent and id honestly thought he was drunk. He kept thinking ppl were at the door. And at one point began walking around with his emergency pistol. I was terrified but luckily that was the whole of the situation. He says he doesnt remember any of it at all, and i think youd have to be an incredible actor to play off true psychosis
I was diagnosed with psychosis 2 years ago and can confirm its very difficult to fake it. One always remains alert and has constant feeling of anxiety/unrest. Auditory hallucinations are also a part of it. And I always felt like people are trying to get me or someone is trying to contact me. So an actor really has to portray constant anxiety,fear,unrest and also alertness at the same time which is really difficult and would be mentally tiring.
Don’t you love it when they ask if you are seeing and hearing things that aren’t there. I’m like - I don’t know? Maybe I’m worse off - but I end up not able to discern real from fake. The night they admitted me - I spent about 24 hours believing the mental facility was actually a rave and every person was wearing undershirt tanks and black lights and music. 2 years later - discovered 2mg Ativan puts me out of my mind. They drugged me up to transfer me to the hospital and in the first night I escaped a secure area, climbed a 6ft cabinet and fell off and crawled down a whole hallway and called 911 for help and had a seizure. That bought me a private room in a unit with only 7 patients. Worst rave ever. (Never been to a rave) also worst hospital. Crazy looks all kind of different - even with the same patient.
He even said, "I'm the last detective or cop you'll have to talk to" yet at the end he asks "Your not a psychologist?"
What an evil fool
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@@RedGold999 :/
I worked in a state mental hospital. Some long term (10 year +) patients were there because they were found not guilty by reason of insanity. A Psychiatrist would have to declare them “safe” to release. Had they just been found guilty, they would have served 3 to 6 years and been freed.
Ableist people always think they get pity points, but being mentally ill is not a joke. Thank you for pointing this out.
God, imagine how utterly horrifying it would be to learn that not only has your sibling been brutally murdered, but that the killer was talking to you so casually all while you're completely unaware. That's heart-wrenching and so sick...
If I recall correctly, the sister wasn't actually killed, just shot and in critical condition for some time after. I believe she survived eventually recovered to some degree, though.
Legit. Poor kid
His sister was seriously wounded but ended up surviving. She testified against the shooter in court.
@@SarelleSirius oh man thats great to hear, that would be horrifying to experience altogether
she survived thank god.
"The only benefit to being declared insane is the elimination of capitol punishment"
"that and the food is better."
bruh im dying
Not gonna lie. The honesty of the clinically insane guy is refreshing. The easiest interrogation ever.
Well yeah. He's fearless and not in the good way. It's actually depressing when you think about it. He had no self-preservation whatsoever and was fine with the death sentence. That's the real sadness in criminal cases. No boohoo stories or excuses just lacking the human condition.
Dude did a speed run on his interrogation
I wonder what the "sir" is for at the end of everything Gerard Murray(?) says. Is it subservience as in "I'm complying, don't hurt me" or "I'm a good respectful boy. You can't seriously believe I would do this"? Neither of these seem to fit. Maybe just "We're on the same team and I recognise your authority"? But EVERY sentence. It's very noticeable. It's some kind of choice for sure.
@@dionlindsay2he seems to accept the cops authority, purely neutrally. he addresses him how he thinks the cop would like to be addressed, or how he thinks he should address a cop in the legal system.
Sounds right to me 🙂@@salamantics
Oh my god, I love your commentary. Something about watching a professional attorney calling someone a prick is a genre of entertainment I didn't know I've been missing out on till now XD
You've obviously never worked with lawyers 🤣🤣
I do love that he's not afraid to curse and call people assholes while dishing out real lawyer knowledge
@@mangos2888. Why would anyone want to work with lawyers?
@@Kunfucious577 just self snitch with the police instead. Sounds like a better idea to me.
What's it matter that he's an attorney and called someone a prick?
"better bologna sandwiches" I am not sure why I found that funny, but I did
😹
lol
Me too.
I spent 3 days at a juvenile mental health complex for suicidal tendencies as a teen. In reality I had never seriously considered killing myself, I was always way too scared to and I cared too much about my life, I was just trying to manipulate my parents into ungrounding me. Well regardless the police came and they took me to the place, but after a few days there they sent me home. They could just tell I wasn’t suicidal at all, mostly because I enjoyed my time there. For me it was a vacation from school since it was in the middle of the week, and I actually liked a lot of the kids there. Was a little awkward during the discussion periods where the kids would talk about harming themselves, punching walls, etc. and meanwhile I had never so much as harmed a fly, but meh I thought it was pretty worth it. Additionally they would ask everyone every morning whether they had thought about killing themselves the day before, and I always said no bc I was just being honest. My mom was both relieved and super pissed off when she came to pick me up. Moral of the story: even if u can fool ur inner circle and even the police in my case, ur not going to keep the charade up once u get there. It’s too exhausting, u will break eventually. These ppl who commit serious crimes know they fucked up, and they deserve no amount of sympathy, but I always prefer when they own their shit and live with it. These mfs who try to dodge it are the scum of the earth, complete wastes of space
I actually liked everything you said, especially the part about your mom being pissed because she found out you were lieing with something very serious 😂😂😂 but good you learned quickly that lying for something so stupid was not worth trying to live a life of lies, just to avoid consequences 🙏🏾
Grippy sock vacation
Your story is rather sweet actually and I’m so very pleased you do want to live. We need ppl like you with us. 🫶✨
As an undergraduate I worked for a criminal psychologist. Her a few of my other psych professors said they stopped doing therapy and started teaching because they were scared for their lives. These cases are so interesting, but chilling at the same time, both the criminally insane and the sane ones.
Gosh, i can imagine. There are so many crazies out there. I bet the professors have some interesting stories.
My mother was a serious schizophrenic, constantly paranoid that someone wanted to murder her and would sometimes have biolent reactions to hallucinations. For years I went to sleep wondering if I wouldn't wake up the next day because her hallucinations caused her to kill me.
JCS is the BEST! It's unfortunate UA-cam has censored and removed 90% of his videos. It was very informative, great storytelling, pacing, and execution. All ruined because of the algorithm bot and YT's direction to cater towards advertiser friendly viewership.
Afair, most of his videos are back up- and he posted a new one a week or so ago 😊
@@kristelbrok998 Sadly, a lot of them seem to have significant amount of content removed. I noticed the Lazarus video has about half of the original video removed, including the part where the context behind the crime is discussed.
UA-cam banned me from commenting for 24 hours because I said the cops were black that killed a black guy
@@-Delilah I've seen some of their stuff. They're enough haha
@@harryparsons2750 It's probably because of the word "kI((ed"
I love how polite the (crazy) guy is.
Yes sir!
Do you have any remorse?
"No, ma'am"
That guy is pretty terrifying cuz he's pretty impossible to be detected and to be reasoned with
@@z54964380 well i feel like hes attempting to come off that way... but hes just scared, confused & has been bullied alot so to me it seems like he puts up shields & what not, now it doesnt justify what he did... but i feel like he puts this front on because he A. is weak B. thinks that is what shows strength C. watches to many movies & thinks thats how ONE should act its just truly sad that this kid got lost within his thoughts & truly believed that THIS event would cement him as "something" but sadly he doesnt realize that everything he has been trying to project is not only insane ( not like insane in the same of "crazy" ) but insane in the sense of how would he think that this was good for future but sadly he lost hes family n was staying with a loving family so not only did it drive him insane that he lost his family, but also that others have loving familys... truly a sad case & alot of people should have seen the clear signs of distress..... also the family he was staying with LET him use the firearms n told him where they were n the combo to the safe... i still personally feel like they should be charged with something aswell because as a gun owner you are suppose to be responsible... & everything they did allowed this monster EASY access to said firearms or maybe im getting that confused BUT he did own firearms that the family had the keys to the safe ( which they thought they had the only key ) but yeah so many red flags ignored with him, also HOW did he get all this money to purchase as many firearms as he did... & ammo, the real thing about gun reform, is you dont even need to ban guns or take away certain things etc or even gun registry... i feel like a few simple things could tackle alot of issues maybe not all of them, but would atlest put up some road blocks... now for starters, each month the gun stores need to have a list of how many firearms were sold, what types, how many to each person, how often said persons came in & bought weapons along with ammo, if tons & tons of purchases are happening in a fast manner guns or ammo & in large quantity's that needs to be looked at, now not saying they go n harass said person but like the FBI can check to see, do they have a Facebook, Instagram or other social medias or youtube channels etc & check them out, have they made threats, hell even check discord, & its as simple as checking do they have a internet provider or live within a home that does, & you can check the searches & sites visited coming from said house, now if HUGE red flags stand out NOW they can make a visit to said house & start asking some questions on to why all the said red flags are happening if the answers seen good, then move on BUT keep them on a list to watch over JUST in case they flip out one day. There are legit SOOO many options of things we can do that dont violate the 2nd amendment but also helps to start limiting these horrible events... i think almost like 92% of mass shootings within the past 25 years have all had CLEAR signs that could have atlest been mitigated or even prevented... but man sorry for the book length response xD
@@BushMaster420circle no. He’s not scared. He’s emotionless which is what makes someone crazy. He is basically like a robot.
Yeah the streets needa part two of this blicky Bruce
🏃🏾♂️
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Can we just appreciate that this man went and got a college degree and passed the exam to become a lawyer just to drop bombs filled with knowledge and comedy at the same time? First video I've seen and I'm already hooked.
He is great!!
He definitely didn’t get a degree JUST to post reaction videos on UA-cam… but he’s great
He great! Imagine if you get assaulted and he gets the perpetrator off - you'll love it!!
"Death sentence, sir"
Guy was OUT THERE
I watched this video a while back and just today said man what if my boy Bruce reacted to this and broke it down for us. And BAM not even an hour later I’m here. Spoke into existence or something
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@@glockz4940 how would u know
@@glockz4940 you lame
@@josebloodthurst1421 he can just be saying that y'all rlly believe anything anyone says up on here lameeee
Fuck a job😎i get paid to smoke weed in my UA-cam videos 🥶🥶
Can you break down the ghislaine maxwell case thats coming up in November 2021 and the previous jeffrey epstein case?
Yes great idea
@@CLRBruceRivers thank god why have we stopped hearing ab Epstein as in where are all the other pedos he was friends with. I get that they need evidence to arrest and convict people but shit even our former President flew with Epstein over 25 times. If you need some info on the case watch joe rogans clips discussing it
Absolutely a good idea !!!
@@scotthill1600 I hate how everyone forgot about its importance and moved onto the next issue at hand. I also would like to see a lawyer break it down since most of the information seen about the cases are what is being told by mainstream media and we all know who Robert Maxwell had in his pockets.
Bill gates just apologized today for being friends with Epstein but said he didn’t know his criminal activity
One of my favorite things about this channel is your precise use of words. You're really good with language and nuance.
Fμck is a noun, a verb, an adverb, an adjective… 😂
“That’s not being crazy, that’s just ✨poor acting✨”
Do you think that Real Life Mental Illness looks like some anime or? He's clearly copying shit he saw on TV in a pre rehearsed manner if you watch him closely enough,he's also not going for a specific mental illness so it looks morelike he saw one too many gang weed memes than he is truly insane.
@Hollow furry take
I haven’t watched anything yet or ever have watched this mans content, but the intro… I’m already subscribed and hyped😂😂
Same!!
This guy totally just randomly popped up in my suggested vid feed. It auto played and I was skeptical, generally looking for a reason to put this guy down but the bad guy was just guilty beyond belief haha
You about to binge watch Bruce has some interesting commentary.
He's dope. Welcome to the family 👪
Can’t wait for the reacts on the self snitching 🤣🤣🤣
I'm starting to really enjoy this channel, how he does not mind not always being formal like many other lawyer/court youtubers, bordering on political incorrectness. All of it is very entertaining and hilarious.
That intro alone makes him the coolest lawyer ever. Full stop.
2:00 "right there... stabbing someone is a crime"
Me: wow this man really is a professional
Thats not what the man said and he actually made a pretty good point. Retribution is a sign that the person had purpose to kill and therefore something not found in the criminally insane. Which further concludes that he is not insane.
Quote from man observing man stabbed
@@Nobody-zn3yv issa joke
@@Nobody-zn3yv who asked me ? Nobody
I love the detective assigned to Cruz. He has a nice balance of push and pull; coaxing logical statements/answers from subject.
This made me realize I am AWFUL at noticing the difference between horrible acting and true insanity
As someone who is mentally ill, most people are. So many people fall through the cracks or just never get help because we “seem fine”. If we’re not an over-exaggerated stereotype, we can’t possibly be “crazy”. People like the faker in the beginning assume ableist horror movies are what mentally disabled and mentally ill people are like.
It’s funny cause some things are almost true, like the hand fidgeting. Autistic people do it a lot, and are bad at making eye contact. I assume the first guy is attempting to emulate autistic stereotypes, which is funny cause autism isn’t even a mental illness.
We can’t all be good at things
Fr? I thought it was pretty easy to tell bc he’s being so obvious about it bc he was over-explaining everything and no suicidal person points finger guns at themselves like that and if he was actually suicidal he would’ve killed himself when he had the chance, he would’ve tried getting out of the restraints and would’ve actually made himself bleed from biting/scratching, imo he was god awful at acting crazy
@@mlgfin If he was actually suicidal, he would've done the world a favor and painted the walls with what little brains he had. The Columbine shooters shot themselves, Elliot Rodger shot himself, the Vegas shooter shot himself, etc etc etc.
Good luck in life then lmfao
I actually watch a lot of videos from that channel, so I’m glad Bruce is doing this! That’s one of my favorite videos from them too!
One thing I've noticed during the Jared Murray interview is when the detective asks him "What do you think should happen to you?" Jared replied "Death sentence sir." You can hear in his voice some emotion. He reluctantly answers and knows that this could be the case.
Didn't notice that at first, but you're right, his voice cracks a bit while he's saying it. He knows he just threw his life away, and he's probably thinking death is his best option. Still doesn't make it any easier to summon your own death. Even for an "emotionless" killer.
There's also a long pause before he says "because I was planning to take him out into the country and kill him", like he's reluctant to say it. He also seems to be playing with his hands a bit under the desk - nerves?
What you heard was relief. He wasn't afraid or scared. He knew what he did when he did it. He also knew what the consequences were. He just doesn't care.
@@sozeytozeyHe been knew he “threw his life away.” it wasn't a recognition.
YES! Subtle, but I noticed it. A very faint hesitation quiver in the voice
Even though it isn't necessary to get a motive for the murder(s), wouldn't it be better to get one for the prosecutor so they can prove their guilt to the jury?
Yes. I'm not a lawyer but I believe it not only helps prove them as being physically guilty but it also shows that they had Mens Rea, which is to say they had criminal intent, which I believe is very important for cases but especially so in ones where they try to fake mental illnesses
It absolutely helps Bruce is right They don't need a motive however establishing a motive can be used while cross-examining him if he chose to testify which would be stupid but it can also be used in an opening or closing statement establishing a reason for the crime
Police are trained to get a confession and a motive
I think what people need to understand is that “insanity” isn’t a mental health diagnosis. It is a legal definition, and a very flawed one at that. 1) it is very open to manipulation and 2) it can often leave out people who do have mental health issues.
A Schizophrenic person might have an understanding that murder is against the law. They might understand that police officers will arrest them for the crime. But they can have some other delusion that overrides their fear of consequence. They might even try to hide the crime because they know that murder is illegal.
If a made up person believed the person they killed was a demon who was going to kill them, but they also believed that the victim’s status as a demon was unknown, so the police would arrest them. Is this person legally insane? Probably not. They knew the crime was illegal and even tried to hide the body. But are the actually culpable for a murder? My opinion is probably not. They have a severe mental delusion
This country needs to have a very serious talk about mental health and the law.
Can you explain what the legal definition is? Because I’ve always understood it to be someone who is incapable of clearly seeing right from wrong.
You have explained quite well how for example schizophrenic patients might have delusions leading them to consciously violate the law. I think that you’re describing the same thing differently, unless I’m totally mistaken.
If they think it’s the right thing to do, it doesn’t really matter that they still knew it was illegal. They couldn’t tell right from wrong because of their mental illness right?
(Not arguing at all I know very little about this, genuinely just asking)
The country was outraged when Hinckley was found not guilty of shooting Reagan and killing a federal officer and shooting another. After that there was a big shift in criminal mental health issues.
@@Bonsoirmonamie if you know you broke the law/understand there's consequences then you're sane.
We're always having those conversations. And if a schizophrenic person murders someone while having an episode they'll generally walk. To be found not mentally sane at the time of the crime the person has to be unaware of what they were doing, or what they were doing was wrong.
Interesting comment. Would you care to share your thoughts on Darrell Brooks? Is he or not mentally ill?
"that cop hasn't missed a whole lot of lunches." Bruce I am dying here 😂 😂
Refused.
You should react to more interrogations, it's crazy how many people volunteer information to the police.
It’s a different form of natural selection.
Your name is my name too!
@@Arsenik17 do people also always shout at you?
@@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3713 Yes, they do it whenever I go out.
One big one that I always see from watching Mr ballen stories are people who are very tight lip to the police but then will immediately spill everything and brag about what they did to their cellmate. There was one Vancouver guy who for about 20 years was butchering people on his pig farm and then just decided to spill the beans to a cellmate. same with a guy who killed a woman and stole her shoes like 30 years ago and did such a good job of hiding it that it was a famous Cold Case that was never solved and immediately upon the Cold Case reopening and him being put in jail for questioning he also admitted everything to his cellmate
When he said Death sentence. I detected a slight wavering of the guys voice. The only time during his interview I got even a hint of emotion.
This is some of the best reacting to reaction videos. Both reactions are actually worth listening to especially in contrast
@24:03 The cop is tearing grass, as a proxy for what he would rather be destroying, point's for professional self restraint. The officer probably knew at least one of the victims.
Thats a very interesting observation! He even said “shut up man” in a passive manner, is if in a subtle state of shock. But idk, i have a weird habit of tearing grass or leaves while having normal conversations in an outdoor setting so it could be more innocent than it looks. After all, this ain’t just a regular criminal. Its a teen who just killed 17 ppl and harmed another 17 more. Cop couldve been distraught from the fact that kind of person was right in front of him… although though we dont know those details until the victims are confirmed dead and the victims admitted into the hospital.
that's a big reach
@@yeetusyourmeetus His arms aren't really that long.
@@estetico9282 it sounds like the shut up came from the officer on top of the kid, not the officer with the pov
either way, the tearing grass as an analogy for tearing the kid feels a bit too English teacher for me lmao. idk bout you guys but it makes far more sense for that to be a super stressful situation- therefore fidgeting lol
30:01 LMAO savage mode outta nowhere
Just ended this mans whole career out of the blue!
@@bossplaysit8483 bars
He ain’t even need to do that 🤣
He cold 🥶
Not my mans curssio
If you pretend to be crazy to get into a psychiatric hospital, it’s a really bad place for you.
Blicky Bruce X Jim Can’t Swim. Best crossover 👌🏿
Fr hella unexpected
Fax
Fr this crossover fye
Clicked by accident, stayed because of the theme music, coming back for the analysis. Good shit Bruce! 🙌🏿
I love your channel! You’re absolutely down to earth and so on point! You bring humor and next level intelligence/professionalism. So glad I found you!
That was the sickest intro I’ve ever seen.
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No cap. I want that man to be my music producer lmaoo
Actual fire
Bruce Blicky 🔥
Jim can’t swim and Bruce rivers in one video is absolutely my shit, this needs to be a thing
Thank you Bruce Rivers for providing another video for us. I know it takes a lot of analysis time with editing videos and coming up with Contin. I appreciate your work. Sending you your son and your family my very best from Pennsylvania USA
Just stumbled up on this. As a retired PSRB nurse I find your commentary right on.
Psrb? Public school right button?
"that cop hasn't refused a whole lot of lunches I can guarantee that" I LOVE THIS DUDE 🤣🤣
I've seen several interrogations of killers who were found incompetent to stand trial. They were all very, very similar...they described exactly what happened in great detail, with no affect in their voice at all. A couple of them explained why they "had to" commit the murders. And although the reasons made no logical sense (in one case, he needed his victim's strength), they were related in the same flat, matter-of-fact way. Everything they were saying made perfect sense to them.
None of them were pretending to see invisible people, or hear demons telling them what to do. None of them had exaggerated or manic mannerisms. None of them were yelling out nonsensical things. I've seen all those behaviours in suspects pretending to be mentally ill.
There's such a noticeable difference in behaviour between someone who is mentally ill and someone who is acting like they think someone who is mentally ill acts.
Bruce roasting the cop aswell is hilarious 😂
The first guy totally watched Primal Fear and thought since it worked in the movie it will work in real life, he totally copied Ed Norton's characters in Primal Fear and The Score
I thought the stuttering and the hand movements were more like Brad Pitt in 12 Monkeys. But either way, dude came across as a wannabe actor doing crazy as opposed to actually mentally ill.
Its all rivers tuesday! Painting cars while soaking up the good stuff 😊
I saw this interrogation of Murray. He was a scary dude. It's not just the intelligence but the matter of factness that he presented his story of killing someone from college. So very matter of fact.
Exactly! And his reasoning too is very strange. He didn't feel guilty for the murder, but he didn't enjoy it either, it was just something he did? It's difficult to wrap your head around.
ive been psychotic on numerous occasions and its really realy hard to differentiate voices and sentences that are real to ones that arent.
Little example: i literally heard dead friends, or family that 100% was not in town (living in another country at the time) standing in front of my windows yelling and cursing at me. Never saw a single person, not even shadow persons, in front of my windows.
Shadow people are usually silent anyway. in hindsight its easy to differentiate, but while being psychotic there is like 0,00001% chance i can differentiate between real and unreal.
My sister was schizophrenic. It's easy to tell the difference! I feel for you. She used to accuse us of putting thoughts into her head. It was very painful for her and she was never violent.
I have schizoaffective disorder. It sounds like you can tell the difference between reality and hallucinations(shadow people) but you can’t tell with the voices. Do you forget during psychotic episodes that they have passed on or that they don’t live near you? I have always viewed schizophrenia as living in a dream state while your wide awake. I think it’s easier to view the voices as you would when your hear voices in a dream..the voices are being created in our minds..they might closely resemble the real person we’re thinking of but it’s a dream so they might not even talk like the original real person sounds at all. Thinking it’s just a dream got me through a lot of nightmare situations. I hope you can find a way to tell the difference. I feel for you, that must be really hard to deal with.
Have you tried using headphones? I know it doesn't work for everyone but it's such a simple tool to use for some people. When you hear the voices put the headphones on, do the voices change/soften/muffle or are they still as loud and clear? If there's no change, you know it's not real. Of course it's easier to suggest than actually do, and I know many people cannot get to every tool when in an episode, but they're worth trying if you haven't already ❤
Love this kind comments here. I hope you are all doing well. ❤
He’s soo funny when he swears , he sounds so professional then swears unexpectedly he’s hilarious 😂😂😂
“ indicative of being a complete prick “ Lordt a medical evaluator would never be allowed to verbalize this fact. This man is a complete professional I totally trust his judgment. Lol
14:25 Of course the "motive, means, and opportunity" crime fiction trope are nonsense, but establishing a motive is used to undermine anticipated claims of insanity as part of a detective's broader effort to get the suspect to commit to a narrative.
I assume that establishing motive determines what you'll be charged with and what the jury will convict you on as well.
@@digitalsoop Definitely. Two different people could both stab someone to death, but if one's motive was malicious and the other's was self defence that would make their cases play out quite differently. Reason matters in the justice system.
Motive, means and opportunity whilst they aren't actual proofs. Is a good breakdown of essentially what a Jury would need to know/hear in a case where there is no direct evidence, and very little strong circumstantial evidence. (Contrary to what people think about "circumstantial case", DNA and Fingerprints are both circumstantial evidence. They don't prove you killed or committed a crime, and if all you have is those, then you too have a circumstantial case)
The prosecution will have a narrative that they are trying to get the Jury to believe, the without strong evidence, like DNA or fingerprints, or direct evidence, then a good way to do that is to show motive, means and opportunity and how the available evidence, helps to prove that, or how those things, help the evidence prove the crime.
Opportunity is a missing alibi. You could have done it.
Means, had the ability to kill them. In the case of a murder where someone is overpowered, then if the defendant is a 6'4 UFC fighter, that's an obvious means
Motive a reason to kill, goes a long way to proving beyond reasonable doubt that the person committed a crime.
It's harder to make someone believe that you killed someone, if you have no reason to. That would be the definition of reasonable doubt. No reason to commit the crime.
Wouldn’t the motive be the Mens Rae? I guess it’s to try and ascertain why they did it- as in the mental process or the circumstances ect
7:22 I worked in psychiatric facilities for 10 years and Even just working there is enough to drive you mad. The turnover for nursing staff is insane because people just can't handle it. The shrieking and getting attacked and listening to ranting and arguing with nothing all day. It's truly an environment out of a horror movie. I would much rather deal with regular prisoners. It takes a very strong constitution to work there and I wouldn't ever want to be committed to one if I was sane, because I guarantee you once you get out, you're not going to be anymore.
Shout out to a fellow Minnesotan. It's awesome to hear from a lawyer that specifically really knows the laws and how things work in my state.
I'm watching a guy, watching a guy, who watched a guy, being watched by guys. 🤔
I've watched that one 😳
Same
Yup
Nice!
How dare you assume the genders.
This is fascinating. I love your breakdown and your humour.
I like how down to Earth you are. You really don't bullshit. Thanks for the video.
Bruce covering JCS is legendary !!
When you mentioned intelligence being frequently associated with many deemed mentally incompetent, I immediately thought of Matthew Harris. His extremely high level of education coupled with his 803 page manifesto and his videos…WOW. It will be interesting to see what shakes out with his case!
Having suffered with schizoeffective disorder for nearly a decade, and my own family refuting it, this pisses me off to no end. This is the type of nonsense which leads many to believe mental health issues are "just an excuse".
Yeah
That 'just an excuse' is a legitimate factor. But it is not an excuse to ignore someone claiming to have mental health issues.
Although, I have the opposite problem. People forced me into mental health issues all my life, and I've been trying to get out of it my entire life. Nobody treats me human cuz of it.
I know exactly what you mean. People who fake mental illness are vile.
I sympathize with your condition. Unfortunately, the police are not doctors and have to assess on the fly. Plus criminals can be unscrupulous in trying to get off. It's a no win situation for all.
Everyone knows you're faking it.
“That cop hasn’t refused a whole lot of lunches, I can guarantee you that.” lol
This video hit the youtube algorithm perfectly, I watched it then was at my boys house and he put it on from recommended and the 5 of us were watching and discussing it and now here is Bruce sure enough breaking it down for us🙌🏼💯
I usually am not a fan of react videos, but I found this incredibly insightful and I learned a lot. Thanks!
I'm binge watching episodes.. Just in that kind of mood..all great stuff.. Thanks Bruce and Michael!! ❤ Love From Canada 🇨🇦
Knowing how thorough and comprehensive JCS is (I believe I’ve seen every video he’s made, including of course the many that totally vanished from UA-cam, about 6 to.9 months ago. At least, I can’t find them anywhere, after several long searches), I’m sure his Miranda Rights were read correctly at some point. I say this because JCS is the sort of creator who is THE first to point out if this, or something else as important and fundamental to the process as this, is ever omitted, or done incorrectly.
Hello there! Just wanted to let you know that JCS also has a Patreon and that’s where most of the videos that vanished from YT went. They don’t advertise it but it only a buck a month
@@colleenwhitman9040 JCS actually got hit hard by youtube's ridiculous "offensive content" system a while back. Even among the videos still on the channel, many have been edited and pruned to remove some of the more graphic details - the original video on the Stephanie Lazarus interrogation is twice as long as the one currently on youtube.
You're absolutely right about his patreon, though.
@@devarious5004 Are you sure it was UA-cam that doctored his videos? Some contributors who start off on UA-cam, tend to open up a Patreon channel once their videos become widely popular. They will then transfer all their work to Patroen but leave a shortened version of the video on YT with a link or promotion to their Patreon channel. I am not sure which of the two channels generate the more revenue.
I also notice that one or two creators tend to come back to YT after a couple of months and I wonder if it's because they don't realise the same number of viewers on their other channel.
@@KebabMusicLtd JCS originally had their videos up on patreon as well as a selection of exclusive videos that youtube wouldn't allow, and access to the entire library was $1 a month. JCS announced maybe a year later that they would no longer be uploading to that patreon, that all future videos would be on youtube, and all patrons may wish to unsubscribe.
I'm one of the many who have chosen not to unsubscribe and instead feel as though that $1 outgoing every month is the most worthwhile subscription I maintain, and JCS' entire history with patreon here has earned them my complete trust that they wouldn't truncate their videos to encourage revenue flow.
Love this type of content break down.
2:04 "It's indicative of being a complete prick." Attorney Rivers' delivery is masterful comedic timing.
33:00 - I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that they were reaching with that bit.
It was in the legal reports, so it wasn’t JCS just pulling it out of his ass. I agree that it’s a bit of a reach either way
I hated that part when JCS tried to pull out too much out of too little. Straight out of Sherlock TV series.
@@roy12525 it was in the official court documents, that’s why JCS mentioned it lol
Omg 😆 I love this I’m literally less than three minutes in “retribution isn’t indicative of a mental health issue it’s indicative of being a prick”. Lol that was golden!
I found you because of your Scamber Turd commentary and I've decided I'm staying😂 I wish other professionals would keep it real like you do!
No joke I subscribed in 5 seconds based on the intro alone. Something in my brain was just like "yep".
this is a certified hood classic
Lmao you just spam this on all of his vids to farm likes, sad af
@Jake Neumann sure
The rap song gets me!!! “ self snitching “ 😂😂
Love JCS so much, and your extra insight is so good! I love you both!
Hello ! I like your videos a lot, great glimpse into the USA justice system. I like the way you present the cases, no nonsense, funny, down to earth, no frill.
If I can make a suggestion : would you consider placing the miniature videos on the upleft corner rather than on the downleft corner ? That would enable those of us who need to turn the subtitles on, to do so without hiding the miniature video completely.
Thank you !
Hi! I know this is a late reply. But you can move the captions too, if you drag them with the cursor. I just found that out by accident not too long ago
5:12 😂 the cop is deflecting it right back at him! "Well if you would really like one; would you really really really like one [along with a yummy ice cream 🍦 cone?]
Finally someone who doesn't have a typical
cookie cutter " You Tube " vocabulary .....
I like a guy who actually calls Bull shit and drops an F bomb here and there .
Subbed 👍
You know, that just means he ahs a bigger chance of getting monitized or something
well he's a lawyer who doesn't really need to rely on UA-cam's shitty monetization system so he can drop and f bomb here and there
@@honeyOTU_ Also, I mean... does youtube really want to get into a legal battle over naughty language with a man like this?
"Members of the jury; j hope the defendants actions are apparent to you and that you decide that his actions are indicative of him being a total prick. Thank you for your time."