Yeah, that's what I thought when first saw it. Should have kept the fog. The LODs were the main issue that needed improving. Not necessarily the draw distance itself.
@@the4thindustrialrevolution225 not rockstar's fault. If the owners refuse to allow rockstar to still use them, no matter how much money rockstar is willing to pay, they wont budge
Some people somewhat enjoy the higher render distance, although I do agree there should be atleast a slider to increase or decrease fog to your liking.
Even the OG PC version had distant fog while being able to have a higher draw distance. It may have been used to mask engine limitations at the time but it did add to the feeling of scale. At least adding low lying clouds back in would help.
Watching this makes me realize how amazing the original game was back in the day. The design, mood and sence of being a part of a huge world is feat I did not fully see untill the Definitive edition came.
The map was built around the draw distance, and the original PC version was wise enough not to increase it too much. Halfway between LS and LV on the highway you could see both cities but that was all. Here, the map looks ridiculously small Making the minimap 3D also doesn't help.
what gives the impression that the map is small is that there is no fog effect that there was on the original version and also the display distance has been improved and we surrender take into account that now it is not at all the same scales between the old gta and the new gta, before the maps were much more compacted whereas now with the last consoles they are much more extended.
Back on the old PS2 the map was so massive to us with the small draw distance and stuff... When I was 14 playing this game I was like damn thats huge... It had a different feeling on PS2 with all that fog around. It was never supposed to have such a draw distance at least they should have added some kind of filter for distant stuff like in GTA IV to make the map seem bigger... At least for the past generation there was nothing like this on PlayStation but nowadays it seems so compact...
All open world games are,none of these massive RPG open worlds are 1:1 recreation of real life countries or something like that.They all have massively compressed maps that you can travel across in minutes.San Andreas isn’t an exception.Sure it looks small by today’s standards but for it’s time there were only a few games that had a larger world than this game although none of em were as detailes as this game.
When I was a kid, San Andreas map looked gigantic. With GTA III and Vice City, I could sort of grasp that they were not really THAT big, but with SA I thought the game was huge. Now the "Defective Edition" completely destroyed that. Thanks.
what gives the impression that the map is small is that there is no fog effect that there was on the original version and also the display distance has been improved and we surrender take into account that now it is not at all the same scales between the old gta and the new gta, before the maps were much more compacted whereas now with the last consoles they are much more extended.
it seems that a fog is missing in the farthest regions of the map at night, in gta 5 the farther mountains are always with a fog that increases the grandeur of the map, and in the remaster these effects are smaller, this could be explored further to give the impression that the game is bigger and bring more realism to the scenario.
That's only due to fog. Without the fog you perceive the plane going slower. They go the same speed and I've done comparison videos of the PS2 version with the definitive.
Only way this hackhmaster could've worked, is if the entire map (at the very least) was remade from the ground up. New models, new textures etc. Vehicles, peds and characters too. Just seeing the entire map without fog in HD looks so bad lol.
why is no one talking about the weird camera? You cant move the camera vertically also the camera is not following with the direction of the planes nose. Makes the handling super weird
Just get the pirated version to check it out. This new release will be forgotten edition, id rather play the older ones or get custom mods for better graphics.
The fact you cant look around with the mouse while flying, and cant adjust the hover-jet mode is just like a badly ported mobile game. Its absurd for a PC GAME, AND A CLASSIC
So much complaining.. I feel like the black sheep now because overall I'm actually quite pleased with this release. The big thing for me was the distant rendering of trees. It's a little funny how they all pop up in the distance at 00:35 but I'll gladly take that over trees popping up 5 feet in front of me! The only thing I don't like so far is the 3-d mini map but that's small potatoes. 👍👍
When it was first revealed that a GTA III remake was in the works, my honest thought was this: GTA Online was so incredibly popular and made them so much fucking money, that they were going to take take the GTAV Map, then release an actual remaster of GTA III and take that map, and then when GTA VI releases take Vice City and add in that map to make GTA Online multi city. Imagine that for a minute, GTA Online where you could go to different cities...how fucking fun would that be. Have those three cities and connect them with some open landscapes with a few small towns here and there and boom, that would be amazing. Instead GTA 6 sounds like it's coming out in 2030 and a shitshow, and this is just kind of dumb to be hoenst.
They built this essentially by taking the original assets and upscaling them and then improving the lighting and mechanics in my opinion it’s a great trilogy
It’s sad that the mobile version is the best version you can buy now, I should have got the original on steam while I still had the chance, pretty much forced to pirate it or play on ps2 now
I believe it was due to the fact I hadn't unlocked all the islands and I believe there's an invisible barrier that blocks off the bridge until I unlock that portion of the map.
man, these graphics make SA look like an old Saint’s Row game
Oh my gawd, it does look like the first Saints Row
YESSS so true
You're exposing the true identity 👁️
I have the saints row 2 on my computer
Saints row have better graphics than this.i do agree with u tho
being able to see las venturas all the way from whetstone is disturbing
Yeah, that's what I thought when first saw it. Should have kept the fog. The LODs were the main issue that needed improving. Not necessarily the draw distance itself.
Everytime I see Mount Chilliad from Ganton, a part of my soul die.
Yall exagerating with the fog thing lol
So sad to see all of the map ....back in the day it felt huge asf
They should've keep the fog
I think it's settling in on us that these games were old and even though as a kid it looked HUGE but in today's standards they don't compare.
It was never huge asf,it felt huge asf.That’s a difference.
they didn't keep the fog. they're idiots with little sense of aesthetic and design...
@Dylan Johnson sigh yea
Playing k dst and flying jet this dude know what he wanted to do going back to nostalgia
" hold the line....."
Bro K-DST was the best station to listen to when flying the Hydra lol 😂
Too bad most songs are removed
"Definitive"
@@the4thindustrialrevolution225 not rockstar's fault. If the owners refuse to allow rockstar to still use them, no matter how much money rockstar is willing to pay, they wont budge
@@stavroskoul732 cope. This edition is bad and horrible
Used to feel when CJ went out of Los Santos during the storyline he was a loooong way from home. That feeling is completely gone now.
It's amazing to think of the gigantic effort that rockstar must had been put to destroy GTA San Andreas. It's really a job for professionals.
@Dylan Johnson Then play it and stfu.
@Dylan Johnson “the trilogy version of San Andreas sucks” is complaining
These remasters weren't developed by Rockstar but by Grove Street. Rockstar just published them.
wtf seems like there is no atmosphere. Even in real life you can't see that far and clear
being able to see the whole map breaks the immersion for me
You only really notice when flying.
@@ManualGaming true
The REALLY need to add back in the fog and clouds and lower the draw distance.
Some people somewhat enjoy the higher render distance, although I do agree there should be atleast a slider to increase or decrease fog to your liking.
Even the OG PC version had distant fog while being able to have a higher draw distance.
It may have been used to mask engine limitations at the time but it did add to the feeling of scale.
At least adding low lying clouds back in would help.
Have an almost infinite draw distance with clouds,like GTA 5.
They added clouds when you are higher in the lastest update
Watching this makes me realize how amazing the original game was back in the day. The design, mood and sence of being a part of a huge world is feat I did not fully see untill the Definitive edition came.
The map was built around the draw distance, and the original PC version was wise enough not to increase it too much. Halfway between LS and LV on the highway you could see both cities but that was all. Here, the map looks ridiculously small
Making the minimap 3D also doesn't help.
Thats Bullshit. There was simply fog because of hardware limitations, nothing else.
@@Pinkmilka there were limitations yes, but the map was designed around them. The map feels much smaller now that you can see all of it.
@@Pinkmilka so u think its natural too see both ends of the map in a goddamm plane?!
what gives the impression that the map is small is that there is no fog effect that there was on the original version and also the display distance has been improved and we surrender take into account that now it is not at all the same scales between the old gta and the new gta, before the maps were much more compacted whereas now with the last consoles they are much more extended.
It looks small because it is small
Well, without the fog,
It looks very small
Back on the old PS2 the map was so massive to us with the small draw distance and stuff... When I was 14 playing this game I was like damn thats huge... It had a different feeling on PS2 with all that fog around. It was never supposed to have such a draw distance at least they should have added some kind of filter for distant stuff like in GTA IV to make the map seem bigger... At least for the past generation there was nothing like this on PlayStation but nowadays it seems so compact...
All open world games are,none of these massive RPG open worlds are 1:1 recreation of real life countries or something like that.They all have massively compressed maps that you can travel across in minutes.San Andreas isn’t an exception.Sure it looks small by today’s standards but for it’s time there were only a few games that had a larger world than this game although none of em were as detailes as this game.
Despite all the fog stuff your really good at flying
Cheers, I really need a compilation of my best stunts.
Death by flying into an invisible wall, fitting ending to the video for this game
When I was a kid, San Andreas map looked gigantic. With GTA III and Vice City, I could sort of grasp that they were not really THAT big, but with SA I thought the game was huge. Now the "Defective Edition" completely destroyed that. Thanks.
Great flying man and great to see you back with uploading!
Loads of pop-in/flickering, even though this is running in the Unreal Engine which doesn't have all that PS2 limitations...
i thought the same, i think that with some things they made a good job but optimization isn't one of them
3:30 barracuda heart 🎵
what are those strange borders in the map boundaries?
They are the product of lazy development.
laziness, this remaster is a total failure
what gives the impression that the map is small is that there is no fog effect that there was on the original version and also the display distance has been improved and we surrender take into account that now it is not at all the same scales between the old gta and the new gta, before the maps were much more compacted whereas now with the last consoles they are much more extended.
Damn, this is the best flex I've seen for in game flying. Cheers man!
With a powerful snipper CJ dont need to visit other city for the killing now
Best plane in a sandbox game so far - yet to be bested!
7:40 LOL🤣
it seems that a fog is missing in the farthest regions of the map at night, in gta 5 the farther mountains are always with a fog that increases the grandeur of the map, and in the remaster these effects are smaller, this could be explored further to give the impression that the game is bigger and bring more realism to the scenario.
yo that render distance makes it easy to fly tho aye
The map looks too small without fog
Man that damn hydra hasn’t fly fast as hell since gta sa got remastered for the Xbox 360 and ps3
The biggest issue I have with the hydra is not being able to look up or down without “first person” or looking backwards…
Nice flying skill, i assume you're playing ace combat
the infinte draw is good when in the streets, they need to add some atmospheric effects, not exacly fog
In a hydra with k-dst, that's how I always spend my days back then
The hydra seemed alot quicker in the original.
That's only due to fog.
Without the fog you perceive the plane going slower.
They go the same speed and I've done comparison videos of the PS2 version with the definitive.
The hydra is missing the heat effect from the engines that was in the original. It's a small thing but still bothers me.
Ur flying is on point
Only way this hackhmaster could've worked, is if the entire map (at the very least) was remade from the ground up. New models, new textures etc. Vehicles, peds and characters too. Just seeing the entire map without fog in HD looks so bad lol.
I wonder what ghost car look like in Definitive Edition in SA
Nice flying man definitely picking this up when i get another ps5
nice white line around the playable area.
Now i noticed, the blur effect when you go on high speed is missing.
Bring back fog and clouds and give an option to reduce draw distance and the old feeling will be back. This looks sad man
welp, i hope they can bring back those foggy feel
To think the map is small makes me feel old
There was no better way to kill this game's spirit than deleting the fog.
kühl! Alles gút!! 😮😄👌👍👍
people talking about how they didnt fuck up this remaster, look at “a home in the hills” and then come back
Damn, look at those graphics
why is no one talking about the weird camera? You cant move the camera vertically also the camera is not following with the direction of the planes nose. Makes the handling super weird
wow!!! just as good
flying country side isn't fun without the Houdini trees.
Satisfaining
Just get the pirated version to check it out. This new release will be forgotten edition, id rather play the older ones or get custom mods for better graphics.
somebody predicted that they were going to remove the haze and you could see a shitty las venturas all the way from san andreas :( and they were right
The fact you cant look around with the mouse while flying, and cant adjust the hover-jet mode is just like a badly ported mobile game. Its absurd for a PC GAME, AND A CLASSIC
Okay
I miss that fog
The game looks good honestly they just need to put some of the fog back 🤣
So much complaining.. I feel like the black sheep now because overall I'm actually quite pleased with this release. The big thing for me was the distant rendering of trees. It's a little funny how they all pop up in the distance at 00:35 but I'll gladly take that over trees popping up 5 feet in front of me! The only thing I don't like so far is the 3-d mini map but that's small potatoes. 👍👍
They should have put all the trilogy cities on the map since San Andreas map looks small with that draw distance
Trueee
When it was first revealed that a GTA III remake was in the works, my honest thought was this: GTA Online was so incredibly popular and made them so much fucking money, that they were going to take take the GTAV Map, then release an actual remaster of GTA III and take that map, and then when GTA VI releases take Vice City and add in that map to make GTA Online multi city. Imagine that for a minute, GTA Online where you could go to different cities...how fucking fun would that be. Have those three cities and connect them with some open landscapes with a few small towns here and there and boom, that would be amazing. Instead GTA 6 sounds like it's coming out in 2030 and a shitshow, and this is just kind of dumb to be hoenst.
Looks like they polished the mobile version. RIP Rockstar.
They built this essentially by taking the original assets and upscaling them and then improving the lighting and mechanics in my opinion it’s a great trilogy
In search of hold we lost the diamond
cool stunts
Cheers, old sport!
SLOW RIDE...
TAKE IT EASY
no fog, it looks like miniature now lol
Hold the LINE
LOVE ISNT ALWAYS ON TIME
thats cool, I will download old gta🥴
To bad no fog effect. it make's world looks weird when distance object appear.
It’s sad that the mobile version is the best version you can buy now, I should have got the original on steam while I still had the chance, pretty much forced to pirate it or play on ps2 now
Is it me or the map had actually been made smaller or is this only because of the clouds and fog
Seems so its small but now looks insanely tiny compared to how it should be
It's due to the lack of fog. The map has always been this small.
Why did they remove fogs?
Way the map look stand on air
They should have kept the draw distance at least smh
SA map looks too small, they should add the draw distance they has in the original game.
Nah it only needs clouds.
@@Tutel9528 it doesn’t, it needs a much lower draw distance.
@@ultrabrian8151 Exactly, I am not playing this shit till it gets an update.
@@BusterMyth1 this is not even worth playing even with an update.
Seeing all the map and limiting square makes me disappointed.
I don’t wanna play until update because playing SMALL open world game feels really sad.
When on the ground you don't notice the square map.
It’s not that small of a game,i mean it’s still bigger than GTA 4,GTA VC and GTA 3.
Also much bigger than games like AC Unity and Syndicate.
Please tell me those control tips on the bottom right can be disabled
I would hope so also, I haven't looked into it but I doubt you can without disabling the entire HUD.
@@ManualGaming check since you're playing the game
You can't get rid of them.
@@ManualGaming that's ass. Hope they patch it out. Cant wait to get rich AF off the horses and then blow it all on roulette
@@ManualGaming That sucks, thank you for letting me know
What the hell..why the airplane crashed before pass over the bridge???
I believe it was due to the fact I hadn't unlocked all the islands and I believe there's an invisible barrier that blocks off the bridge until I unlock that portion of the map.
Why can't they give the helicopters and planes the ability to look around like with every other vehicle?
Oh I forgot, this is the mobile port..again.
Yes I wanna play it.
No I won't buy it.
Full price for this thing? C'mon lmao
0:36 “definitive edition”
Trucos.. Traiganle una falda a la niña
I like how you can’t even pull the camera down or up it’s so annoying
k man no need to flex this hard jeez
7:40 R.I.P.
I should have been able to fly through that.. :'(
i wish gta 4 and v never exist
5 I understand, but 4 is the best GTA in my opinion, the quality of that entry is through the roof.
ahh back when cheats where useful😂
Holy fuck, they ruined my boy beyond recognition! Wanna hear a joke? - 60$
Why the hydra is so slow now?
It's always been slow, it just looks slower now that you can see everything.
@@ManualGaming bro what do you think of the camera when you ride helicopters and planes? I personally hate it.
@@ultimatecontagion Yeah, I hate it also. It's not smooth camera control, very janky.
Cmon! It looks awful! It seems an unfinished game without the fog effect!
it looks like a fortnite map lmao
It’s technically is.Even though it was a perfect map for it’s time the map design looks so weird with modern draw distance lol.
@@Tutel9528 ikr? the map used to feel so big back in the day because that ambient fog would make discovering it a mystery lol
look at all that texture popping, its embarrasing, they couldn´t handle a game from 2004, well done Grove Street Games
the piloting is horrible, looks like a helicopter with jet sound.
It feels just as bad. Feels more like the jetpack than a plane.
RockStar,ну нафига вы дали игру на растерзания не компентентных мододелов?Это просто провал дна..
What's was the cheat?
Triangle, Triangle, Square, Circle, Cross, L1, L1, Down, Up.
The camera when flying is wayyyy off. It should be locked behind the plane
The world is flat
In all open world games world is flat,except MFS 2020.
Draw distance is horrible
IMO III and VC look good but SA looks horrible
Probably because SA map is a square, so it looks awful without the fog
Litterally looks the best back then and today
nooooooooooooooooo
That rendeting
......suck
Nah it’s a perfect proof of the map is small.