Quit school at 16 back in 83, got my good enough diploma. Army recruiter got a phone call from the high school of fresh drop outs. Recruiter called me up said, hey, wanna be an engineer? What’s that? You’ll do just fine. I was 5’ 11” and 135 pounds, I couldn’t even do 10 push-ups. Off to fort lost in the woods misery for five months. I had no idea at all what a sapper was at 16. Boy, did I find out, five months later, I weighed 185 and could do 70 pushups in 2 minutes. Ended up in the 81st infantry division as their youngest member and a sapper. Good times.
@@pillscottvt6628 thank you bro. My enlistment folder had pic of sapper tab, it was not an authorized school, that's what they told me in 94. Thank you for validation. Essayons et Faisons!
Met a dude back in 2006 (everyone was going to Iraq almost. Great times - no one ever said! Haha). But he did Sapper and then Ranger that summer. He said it was the worst summer of his life. I don't know how the hell he survived all of that.
No shit, there I was…. While at FLW for MP OSUT in January’01 I was working KP duty in the DFAC when I bumped into a young soldier. Guy might have been 27ish & shorter than my own 5’6”. Looked over as I went to apologize and immediately noticed that I was likely about to die! This guy wasn’t some BCT Pvt, no, he was the Sapper 1SG! First time I’d ever seen a Triple Canopy. I made my apologies and he acted like it was no big deal.
Also, years later my younger cousin graduated from this school and became one of the first female Combat Engineers company commanders. She’d already done 2 tours overseas, one enlisted, one as a platoon leader & XO for an engineer construction company.
December will be 3 yrs since I been in the Army Reserve. I saw this really wanting to attempt this by end of my contract at least! Looks tough as hell & I'm willing to go that extra mile after I'm done with BLC this upcoming 2023 year.
My first unit of assignment was the fifth engineer battalion fort Leonard Wood Missouri in 1988. I served at hhc of the 5th engineer battalion until 1992 after desert storm. I attended the course in 1989 when we still wore Woodland bdus( yes I am showing my age) and the tab was not authorized. We used to put the tab under the flap of our shirt pocket. I am now retired after 20 years of service in combat engineer and cavalry unit. Of all the schools I have taken this one was not one that I had asked for. My then battalion Commander what's one of the individuals that helped push for the formation of the school. And he believed that everybody was in his unit should attend.
If you don’t agree with those who’ve earned a sapper tab or even those who haven’t but tried many times you should not be infantry. Most of your movements and patrols are cleared by engineers or eod long before your butter bar get an op Ed .
@Alpha Grunt don’t be mad because someone is stating the facts, if you wanna go out there and poke through a minefield with a stick be my guest. But I’d rather use my brain, you might need to borrow some crayons for the marines guy.
I was a sapper with the British army out in Iraq '03. Fun times. Though I didn't realise that not all combat engineers in the U.S. military are sappers. (Unlike the U.K. army where every Royal Engineer is trained as a sapper.)
You can have mine , graduated in 89 we couldn't even wear the tab after we got it , most got dropped for the demo calculation test, the rest wasn't a big deal
@@lelandgaunt9985 Obviously you're a civilian or non-combatant. Sapper is not on RANGER level, but very much NOT below. There are Ranger Q guys who failed Sapper. Nobody survives the chaos of combat besides SAPPER and RANGER. Go buy a new controller -- obviously call of duty 3/4 dude.
@@ronaldmercer9616 I enlisted delayed entry 1990, PEBD/BASD 19901025, Sapper Tab was on enlistment folder, not yet authorized for wear on (then) BDU uniform. Shot out to SFC McCain, SFC Gallagher -- my "DI" E-31.
MICLIC. Mine clearing line charge. Edit: while the MICLIC is awesome, it can be defeated by mines with anti sudden pressure fuses like the Italian VS-MK2 and SB-33. The Italians were nasty mine builders.
Here we are at misery, Ft Leonard Wood. "File from the left, column left," said the Sergeant, We didn't know we could. We're gonna to be Engineers, for our Uncle Sam. So, we can fight those World War Twos, Koreas, Vietnams. [Chorus] Cause we are, Mountain Movers - Mountain Movers, Castle on fire. Weapons and equipment and man-power. Yeeaah! Nothing is too hard for us and nothing can't be done. Just tell us where we have to go, we'll do it on the run. [Chorus ends] Hey, Mr President, tell us that we can. Fight for freedom and liberate oppressed lands. Over hill, over dale, we hit the dusty trail. Drive on Sergeant, you we'll never fail. [Chorus] [Cadence with marching background] Drill Instructor: Left, left, left right. Troops: Always first! Drill Instructor: Left, left, left, right. Troops: Bridge the gap! Drill Instructor: Left, left, left, right. Troops: Breech the wall! Drill Instructor: Left, left, left, right. Troops: Shoot to kill! [Cadence and Marching Fades] Drill Instructor: Left, left, left, right. Left, left, left, right. Left, left, left, right. Engineer's Song (C) by William Cooper
My father was a Sapper in the US Army. He was extremely proud of this and as a kid I was in awe of Sappers and what all they did. I wanted to join the Army and follow in his footsteps and become a Sapper myself. Due to some issues with depression and the fact I was prescribed antidepressants disqualified me from enlisting. I have gone on to become a mechanical engineer. To show support to Sappers and my dad would it be okay to wear a t shirt with the word Sapper on it? I don’t want to imply or make anyone believe I had earned a Sapper tab because I definitely have not. I still have a deep admiration for the Army Corps of Engineers and want to show my support for them and all they do.
Bro you can still join. Just go back and to the place where they said you had depression and let them know your fine. My brother had depression and he got in. They also gave him meds for depression and he went in person and told them everything they wanted to hear about him not having depression and he got in. Honest to God though I'm worried for him because he drinks alot and I don't want him to continue that. I don't drink or do drugs but I have a criminal record for something I didn't even do but still got charged with and now I can't join the military. It's dumb bro. I caught a domestic violence charge because I called the cops to report my girlfriend for domestic violence and my gf lied and tried to make it seem like I raped her and that's why they charged me. Another thing was because I wasn't financially stable go get a lawyer but even then some lawyers are biased and don't even want to help. Like rn I'm still trying to fight it and I can't find not a single lawyer to help defend me in my case. All I want to do is join the marines and I can't even do that. It's very annoying and frustrating to see people that are criminals and beat women and men up and like violence are still able to get in but someone like me who refrains from that can't get in because of a dumb record. Like cmon man wtf
You can still get in. As long as you can prove your good you can get in, my friend was disqualified cuz he took meds for depression, he came back a year later and got in, the entry level is like 40 years oldand under. You can still get in my guy go get it
I work overnights at a hotel. Had a couple of dudes staying here over the weekend. When I met them, they were in civvis.. They were WRECKED. Like, SLOSHED. Talking about “duck sausage” and the like… But they were awesome bros. Lost their CACs (they found them, tho.) Then I saw one of the guys again this morning… And wouldn’t you know it. He had the fuckin sapper tab, and a 10th Mountain Patch. Hell of a guy 💪 You just never know who you might run into…
I recently bought an NS-71 polish sapper night vision device from the 70s, i always wondered what sapper meant but after doing more and more research im sold, i want to be a swiss army sapper
@CoffeeorDieMagazine can you guys please do a video on the USMC Security Forces CQB School in Chesapeake, VA? It's a good and tough school and it honestly deserves more attention.
Sapper school has never been main stream and the tab wasn’t allowed until 2007 or 2008 ( i may be wrong on the date but close enough). In 11 years i ran into 1 infantry officer who wore a sapper and ranger tab. That man was a fuckin legend in my mind. LTC Tuscon was his name
@@HB-kp6rl SLC was established back in 1984 but the tab was authorized in 2004. As a small regiment, Engineer does not have a lot spotlight like Infantry does.
@@nomadicle6867 No BS, SAPPER tab -- it was on my enlistment folder, but it was not an "authorized" school in 94... Thank you for confirmation. There is a reason 12B say "You not gonna believe me but," Just before my ETS they changed everybody to 21B (officer MOS).. I hear they changed it back. Enlisted=12B, O=21B
I'm going in as infantry because of the 40k bonus but I got airborne and asked for fort drum because one of my dreams is to pass ranger school and air assault school and hopefully be able to become a officer. Only regret as I am about to go to osut is I think people who pass sapper school are cool and I'm pretty sure infantry can't go. Red tabs are fucking fire
I just got to the part where it said infantry can go, ngl if I got the opportunity that would be the coolest thing, one can only hope and one can only see what happens
I’ve only known 3 females to go through, I’m not sure if they tabbed though, forgot to check when I had access to the training roster for the sapper school.
1:10 This rocket with firehose lead is called a MIC-LIC. Each 3 feet or so a 40mm grenade is sewn into the tube. It is set off to blow up landmines so vehicles can pass through.
the course is more difficult then supporting anti gun, anti American politicans, brcc loves taking the easy route of giving money to the very people that want you ded
Not Infantry at all. Crazier and Smart. We had to be flexible enough to work autonomously in teams of two with infantry or as a larger Company size Engineer component. I loved being an Engineer. I was with an assault/breach Plt that often times went outside the wire dismounted. I was tasked out a few times with another soldier to be imbedded with an Infantry PLT. Infantry is good at their job, but I can attest first hand that it's just a different mentality. I also spent time with a Marine TF. Funny thing is we got along better with the Marines than we did Army infantry, and they probably thought we were the only mos in the army that may be crazier than most Marines.
When did the Sapper tab become “coveted”? As a grunt we laughed at it. A gut check for combat engineers but no way equal to a Ranger or SF tab or even jump wings. Kind of falls right in there with the jungle and arctic “hey, look at me” tabs.
Back in my day…no, really…. I damn certain didn’t attend because at that time it was only open to engineers, but in the early 2k’s either airborne or air assault were prerequisites to attend the course. And while in basic in January 2001 the Sapper school NCOIC at the time was a triple canopy guy. I know because I accidentally bumped into him and began to profusely apologize upon realizing whom I had bumped into.
Then you are misinformed. Ranger and Sapper have the same attrition rates. One is a sprint and one is a marathon. My class had two cav scouts(abn) one was a no go. I was also 82nd and can say with full certainty than basic airborne is so much easier than Sapper it’s not even close. As far as coveted, they graduate about 400 Sappers per year. There aren’t many of us out there.
That's a good joke man, not even equal to jump wings 😂😂😂 They did have to slightly modify the course thanks to a gentleman called Timothy McVeigh. Hopefully you know who he is and what he did. But even after the changes, it's no SF Q course but it's no walk in the park either.
@@dominicsanchez2972 ~ when you go your class has to choose a rock to carry through the whole way. All of the GOs get to sign the rock at the end of school. There is a rock signed McVeigh.
I did an exercise with a Sapper unit a few years ago; much respect to them and their skills!
Quit school at 16 back in 83, got my good enough diploma. Army recruiter got a phone call from the high school of fresh drop outs. Recruiter called me up said, hey, wanna be an engineer? What’s that? You’ll do just fine.
I was 5’ 11” and 135 pounds, I couldn’t even do 10 push-ups. Off to fort lost in the woods misery for five months. I had no idea at all what a sapper was at 16. Boy, did I find out, five months later, I weighed 185 and could do 70 pushups in 2 minutes.
Ended up in the 81st infantry division as their youngest member and a sapper. Good times.
My class lost 2/3 by the start of patrolling phase, July heat is no joke.
But I got my tab that we could not wear.
Why couldn't you wear it
@@Mytoothmission It was the the 90's , not authorized under AR-670-1 at the time.
@@pillscottvt6628 thank you bro. My enlistment folder had pic of sapper tab, it was not an authorized school, that's what they told me in 94. Thank you for validation. Essayons et Faisons!
@pillscottvt6628 You paved the way for us.
Met a dude back in 2006 (everyone was going to Iraq almost. Great times - no one ever said! Haha). But he did Sapper and then Ranger that summer. He said it was the worst summer of his life. I don't know how the hell he survived all of that.
Jesus dude, that definitely sounds like the worst summer ever
It definitely wasn't easy but so much fun
Sappers Forward!
Sapper School and Sapper Units are two different things.
Keep your feet and knees together.
No shit, there I was….
While at FLW for MP OSUT in January’01 I was working KP duty in the DFAC when I bumped into a young soldier. Guy might have been 27ish & shorter than my own 5’6”. Looked over as I went to apologize and immediately noticed that I was likely about to die! This guy wasn’t some BCT Pvt, no, he was the Sapper 1SG! First time I’d ever seen a Triple Canopy. I made my apologies and he acted like it was no big deal.
Also, years later my younger cousin graduated from this school and became one of the first female Combat Engineers company commanders. She’d already done 2 tours overseas, one enlisted, one as a platoon leader & XO for an engineer construction company.
What was her last name? Our sapper platoon over at the 173rd in Italy had a female Lieutenant and she had also passed sapper school
I did sapper in 2000. It was my favorite course that I did in the military.
May I ask: Did you pass?
Is OT only limited to army and marines?
Sapper Alumni class 00-04. Some of the best suffering and gut check moments of my life are in those hills ! SLTW
December will be 3 yrs since I been in the Army Reserve. I saw this really wanting to attempt this by end of my contract at least! Looks tough as hell & I'm willing to go that extra mile after I'm done with BLC this upcoming 2023 year.
My first unit of assignment was the fifth engineer battalion fort Leonard Wood Missouri in 1988. I served at hhc of the 5th engineer battalion until 1992 after desert storm.
I attended the course in 1989 when we still wore Woodland bdus( yes I am showing my age) and the tab was not authorized. We used to put the tab under the flap of our shirt pocket.
I am now retired after 20 years of service in combat engineer and cavalry unit. Of all the schools I have taken this one was not one that I had asked for. My then battalion Commander what's one of the individuals that helped push for the formation of the school. And he believed that everybody was in his unit should attend.
REspect, "Follow The Sapper" Royal Engineers "Ubique"
Ha!
Royal Engineers "Where's the rum?"
If you don’t agree with those who’ve earned a sapper tab or even those who haven’t but tried many times you should not be infantry. Most of your movements and patrols are cleared by engineers or eod long before your butter bar get an op Ed .
@Alpha Grunt don’t be mad because someone is stating the facts, if you wanna go out there and poke through a minefield with a stick be my guest. But I’d rather use my brain, you might need to borrow some crayons for the marines guy.
@Alpha Grunt you know there are rangers who have failed sapper school right?
No Ma’am
Remember the formula:
"P" = PLENTY
You can never have enough D cord!!
@@fixagent81 or C-4, or comp-B, or AT-4, or .50 cal ammo...
Army is the best! 🎉🎉🎉
I was a sapper with the British army out in Iraq '03. Fun times.
Though I didn't realise that not all combat engineers in the U.S. military are sappers. (Unlike the U.K. army where every Royal Engineer is trained as a sapper.)
Only tab I wanted while I was enlisted. Sadly never had the chance.
12Bozo’s got priority, or leadership laughs you off when you mention the school at your engineer unit.
You can have mine , graduated in 89 we couldn't even wear the tab after we got it , most got dropped for the demo calculation test, the rest wasn't a big deal
@@lelandgaunt9985 Let me guess, you are a supply sergeant?
@@lelandgaunt9985 Obviously you're a civilian or non-combatant. Sapper is not on RANGER level, but very much NOT below. There are Ranger Q guys who failed Sapper.
Nobody survives the chaos of combat besides SAPPER and RANGER.
Go buy a new controller -- obviously call of duty 3/4 dude.
@@ronaldmercer9616 I enlisted delayed entry 1990, PEBD/BASD 19901025, Sapper Tab was on enlistment folder, not yet authorized for wear on (then) BDU uniform.
Shot out to SFC McCain, SFC Gallagher -- my "DI" E-31.
Whatever that was at 1:17 was pretty damn badass
Exactly what I was thinking. Like giant det cord that explodes on impact or something. Looked sick!
MICLIC. Mine clearing line charge.
Edit: while the MICLIC is awesome, it can be defeated by mines with anti sudden pressure fuses like the Italian VS-MK2 and SB-33. The Italians were nasty mine builders.
@Unknown User ~ smaller version are APOBS. Anti personnel obstacle breaching system.
Here we are at misery,
Ft Leonard Wood.
"File from the left, column left," said the Sergeant,
We didn't know we could.
We're gonna to be Engineers, for our Uncle Sam.
So, we can fight those World War Twos, Koreas, Vietnams.
[Chorus]
Cause we are, Mountain Movers - Mountain Movers, Castle on fire.
Weapons and equipment and man-power.
Yeeaah!
Nothing is too hard for us and nothing can't be done.
Just tell us where we have to go, we'll do it on the run.
[Chorus ends]
Hey, Mr President, tell us that we can.
Fight for freedom and liberate oppressed lands.
Over hill, over dale, we hit the dusty trail.
Drive on Sergeant, you we'll never fail.
[Chorus]
[Cadence with marching background]
Drill Instructor:
Left, left, left right.
Troops:
Always first!
Drill Instructor:
Left, left, left, right.
Troops:
Bridge the gap!
Drill Instructor:
Left, left, left, right.
Troops:
Breech the wall!
Drill Instructor:
Left, left, left, right.
Troops:
Shoot to kill!
[Cadence and Marching Fades]
Drill Instructor:
Left, left, left, right.
Left, left, left, right.
Left, left, left, right.
Engineer's Song
(C)
by William Cooper
Sappers Lead The Way ⚔️🇺🇸⚔️
Sapper school is one of my goals
My father was a Sapper in the US Army. He was extremely proud of this and as a kid I was in awe of Sappers and what all they did. I wanted to join the Army and follow in his footsteps and become a Sapper myself. Due to some issues with depression and the fact I was prescribed antidepressants disqualified me from enlisting. I have gone on to become a mechanical engineer. To show support to Sappers and my dad would it be okay to wear a t shirt with the word Sapper on it? I don’t want to imply or make anyone believe I had earned a Sapper tab because I definitely have not. I still have a deep admiration for the Army Corps of Engineers and want to show my support for them and all they do.
Common, “I would’ve joined but…” nobody cares. Work harder
Man as a 12b, let me tell you it is not easy, and a lot of Ranger graduates could not pass Sapper.
Also shot out to ALL dudes who tried, the course is NOT easy.
You hold your head high, most people are too feeble to try....
Bro you can still join. Just go back and to the place where they said you had depression and let them know your fine. My brother had depression and he got in. They also gave him meds for depression and he went in person and told them everything they wanted to hear about him not having depression and he got in. Honest to God though I'm worried for him because he drinks alot and I don't want him to continue that. I don't drink or do drugs but I have a criminal record for something I didn't even do but still got charged with and now I can't join the military. It's dumb bro. I caught a domestic violence charge because I called the cops to report my girlfriend for domestic violence and my gf lied and tried to make it seem like I raped her and that's why they charged me. Another thing was because I wasn't financially stable go get a lawyer but even then some lawyers are biased and don't even want to help. Like rn I'm still trying to fight it and I can't find not a single lawyer to help defend me in my case. All I want to do is join the marines and I can't even do that. It's very annoying and frustrating to see people that are criminals and beat women and men up and like violence are still able to get in but someone like me who refrains from that can't get in because of a dumb record. Like cmon man wtf
You can still get in. As long as you can prove your good you can get in, my friend was disqualified cuz he took meds for depression, he came back a year later and got in, the entry level is like 40 years oldand under. You can still get in my guy go get it
Little Korea (Ft Leonard Wood). Man I guess the 3 yrs I was active I didn't learn all that much. They teach a lot more than I did when I was in.
I work overnights at a hotel.
Had a couple of dudes staying here over the weekend.
When I met them, they were in civvis..
They were WRECKED. Like, SLOSHED.
Talking about “duck sausage” and the like…
But they were awesome bros.
Lost their CACs (they found them, tho.)
Then I saw one of the guys again this morning…
And wouldn’t you know it.
He had the fuckin sapper tab, and a 10th Mountain Patch.
Hell of a guy 💪
You just never know who you might run into…
Can’t wait to see an Infantry video next.
Most of their footage consist of mowing lawns and policing the motor pool 😂😂😂
I recently bought an NS-71 polish sapper night vision device from the 70s, i always wondered what sapper meant but after doing more and more research im sold, i want to be a swiss army sapper
Well, who wouldn’t want to be a Sapper? 🇺🇸
😎✌️🤙🤘😎
Hell yeah, most of those clips were from my class.
12b here ahhh memories
@CoffeeorDieMagazine can you guys please do a video on the USMC Security Forces CQB School in Chesapeake, VA? It's a good and tough school and it honestly deserves more attention.
I’m Air Forces Security Forces, I’d be interested in a video on that too.
Leaving in a month for basic as a 12c. Goal is to go to dapper school eventually.
Sapper
Awesome!
ESSAYONS!
Stay Rugged ⚔️🇺🇸⚔️
Easy Money. SAPPERS OUT 82d ABN Div 307th Eng Bn Rock Steady.
ESSAYONS!!!!
I'm trying to go next month or in October
You active or guard?
@@adriancosio6029 Active 12B. After I get my Sapper I'm going Ranger
@@iancrotty7065 ok, good luck, hopefully you get both tabs. 11B/12B✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
Good luck
@@iancrotty7065 I’m tryna become a sapper and I got meps in October :p well I go back there anyway
SLC grad. Nov '87.
When did Sappers become main stream? I don't remember them in the U.S Army inventory years back?
the engineer corps is still small im glad to be a 12b knowing i'm needed everywhere within the army
Sapper school has never been main stream and the tab wasn’t allowed until 2007 or 2008 ( i may be wrong on the date but close enough). In 11 years i ran into 1 infantry officer who wore a sapper and ranger tab. That man was a fuckin legend in my mind. LTC Tuscon was his name
@@HB-kp6rl SLC was established back in 1984 but the tab was authorized in 2004. As a small regiment, Engineer does not have a lot spotlight like Infantry does.
@@nomadicle6867 No BS, SAPPER tab -- it was on my enlistment folder, but it was not an "authorized" school in 94... Thank you for confirmation. There is a reason 12B say "You not gonna believe me but,"
Just before my ETS they changed everybody to 21B (officer MOS).. I hear they changed it back. Enlisted=12B, O=21B
@@HB-kp6rl Im so sorry I hit +1 and it subtracted, I was shocked.
Damn "JavaScript programmers." I fixed it, apologies...
ESSAYONS!!
Excellent
Medically retired in 04 I don't remember sapper? Did I miss something?
Awesome
I'm going in as infantry because of the 40k bonus but I got airborne and asked for fort drum because one of my dreams is to pass ranger school and air assault school and hopefully be able to become a officer. Only regret as I am about to go to osut is I think people who pass sapper school are cool and I'm pretty sure infantry can't go. Red tabs are fucking fire
I just got to the part where it said infantry can go, ngl if I got the opportunity that would be the coolest thing, one can only hope and one can only see what happens
Enjoy your knee pain and backpack when you get out
First in last out ,Unique,
As long as they hold that carrot of Big Louie's outside the main gate as a prize.....you'll make it...midwestern girls rock
U neeeeeeed tracer tracker DELTA
Me someday
ESSAYONS
Cafe
Parade day.😊
109% lost of sleep too
I rather die than drink that BR Coffee. The CEO is a Benedict Arnold.
Ok
Uhh, hoo-ah? No? Ok.
Have they watered down the physical requirements so that more women can pass?
I dont think so but i know they did for ranger school the females wont do the full course
They dis
I’ve only known 3 females to go through, I’m not sure if they tabbed though, forgot to check when I had access to the training roster for the sapper school.
What I’m wondering is if they are using the new or old pt test.
I can do without the sound track
1:10 This rocket with firehose lead is called a MIC-LIC. Each 3 feet or so a 40mm grenade is sewn into the tube. It is set off to blow up landmines so vehicles can pass through.
Uhm, no. It’s an MCLC (mine clearing line charge). And it’s not grenades. It’s literally a rope of C4
@@joeamato3936 It's sapper porn, shut-up and just get aroused watching it detonate.
@joeamato3936 I always enjoyed playing with the angry Play-Doh when I was with the fifth engineer battalion
CHTELL THEN DONT LISTEN CPL FOR ONCE JUS NOT EVEN I
What's 🧵🧵
Why do all military school try to look like BUDS these days??
the course is more difficult then supporting anti gun, anti American politicans, brcc loves taking the easy route of giving money to the very people that want you ded
way to steal half our footage lol
Army recruiters now?
BaSicALly InFanTry
Uhm...No.
Nah, Sappers are a touch crazier and go ahead of the infantry guys
Not Infantry at all. Crazier and Smart. We had to be flexible enough to work autonomously in teams of two with infantry or as a larger Company size Engineer component. I loved being an Engineer. I was with an assault/breach Plt that often times went outside the wire dismounted. I was tasked out a few times with another soldier to be imbedded with an Infantry PLT. Infantry is good at their job, but I can attest first hand that it's just a different mentality. I also spent time with a Marine TF. Funny thing is we got along better with the Marines than we did Army infantry, and they probably thought we were the only mos in the army that may be crazier than most Marines.
Umm, no. Definitely no.
The military doesn't let the infantry play with H.E. outside of using dummy proof weapon systems.
Pretty hard, first you have to master Critical Race Theory
Isn't that some shit? They're ruining the military.
What’s that?
When did the Sapper tab become “coveted”? As a grunt we laughed at it. A gut check for combat engineers but no way equal to a Ranger or SF tab or even jump wings. Kind of falls right in there with the jungle and arctic “hey, look at me” tabs.
Back in my day…no, really….
I damn certain didn’t attend because at that time it was only open to engineers, but in the early 2k’s either airborne or air assault were prerequisites to attend the course. And while in basic in January 2001 the Sapper school NCOIC at the time was a triple canopy guy. I know because I accidentally bumped into him and began to profusely apologize upon realizing whom I had bumped into.
Then you are misinformed. Ranger and Sapper have the same attrition rates. One is a sprint and one is a marathon. My class had two cav scouts(abn) one was a no go. I was also 82nd and can say with full certainty than basic airborne is so much easier than Sapper it’s not even close.
As far as coveted, they graduate about 400 Sappers per year. There aren’t many of us out there.
That's a good joke man, not even equal to jump wings 😂😂😂 They did have to slightly modify the course thanks to a gentleman called Timothy McVeigh. Hopefully you know who he is and what he did. But even after the changes, it's no SF Q course but it's no walk in the park either.
@@dominicsanchez2972 ~ when you go your class has to choose a rock to carry through the whole way. All of the GOs get to sign the rock at the end of school. There is a rock signed McVeigh.
@Alpha Grunt you say that but 40% of blue cords will fail this course
E-3 with a waiver!!
I was the first E3 through the course in March of 1988.
This is like the navy seal but they do it on the ground instead. Should be name like lizard army or chamelion army😂😂😂
So everyone waits outside like the plane crisis RTAADEECONZ🎉