They are priced the same so it makes total sense...ASUS is offering "this" with these specs for "this" price and for comparison here is the ASUS AMD offering at the same price point.
@@NTWA123 link it then tough guy. There are currently no offerings available right now for purchase in the US for 288V laptops. There are only 258V versions. I just went to msi’s estore, click on retailers and online shops tor the 288v version, there are none listed.
I would have dropped XE naming, first gen was a disaster with drivers that never got any better. I bought a handheld 3 years ago with Intel XE and it was miserable up until games started requiring DX12 full support and refused to run altogether. While both Vega8 and later 680m were perfectly fine.
It would be nice if you could limit the RAM and power to be the exact same for a more fair comparison. Also Lunar Lake is supposed to be significantly better at lower wattages, so maybe that's where Intel got their "16% better performance". Still, it's great to have competition in the laptop space (unlike desktop CPU...).
4:16 why are there lines connecting the data points on this graph? those are discrete data for different systems: the lines would suggest to me that they are related data for a given system through time
It's neat to see that Intel is still doing things. I mean, I'm not gonna buy the things, but I like that they keep doing the things. 🤔 Anyways, most useless comment of the day goes to me I guess
I don't get it are content creators paid by AMD or have they turned all stupid at same time like comparing U7 with AI9 while acknowledging the difference in power at the beginning is not only nonsensical but it's also pain and simple dumb 🤦🏽♂️ like bruh why? *WHY?*
While realizing this was a day or so ago, couldn't believe your tittle, 'The 9800X3D Goes Boom', both were due to the CPU not being installed correctly on two MSI Tomahawk MB, which many of your viewers advised , sad to see you had to use that title of 'The 9800X3D Goes Boom' to draw viewers, be it AMD or Intel, or for that matter brands of GPU's is both sad to see, and wrong!, been a long time subscriber and to capitalize like these two random issues, both that happened on Tomahawk MB's is causing me to consider un-scribing,, as while I take tech UA-camrs with a grain of salt, like to believe they don't to capitalize on misleading tittles to capture viewer's attention!
You know that we're talking about laptop architectures here, right? 250W is the power consumption of a whole laptop, with most of it being the GPU. At least watch the video before you bash Intel. This is coming from someone who bought a 9800x3d, so yes I prefer AMD
@brandonchan5620 For months prior to launch they were claiming the M4 was going to be 4060 fast. Now that it's out, they're still in the comments claiming 3060. At $599 USD, it's a dead heat with $350 780M systems, ignoring all the compatibility layer issues that is...
@@drewnewby Yes, you can find 7840HS TSMC N4 around $370 but it's barebone. M4 iGPU rated 4.26 TFLOPS FP32 which is slightly better than 12CU 780M. Of course, one can argue they can go with 7840HS with a little cheaper but M4 CPU side is way better if you don't need more than 16 GB ram.
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc They're not bare-bones, but nice try. You cannot compare FLOPs between different architectures, amateur hour, do research. I've already compiled results from multiple sites and channels. The base M4 has great single core performance, but is behind the 7840HS in multicore and iGPU performance. There wasn't enough die space on the SoC for more, even at 3 nm. Do not expect the 16 GB to be enough, it's "unified" aka shared. Not good for any app or game on compatibility layer, which is most. Single core benchmarks, and Metal based tests are really confusing you guys, it's a shame.
The 256V has less RAM and slower clocks than the 288V. There are benchmarks by that show the 268V is actually neck and neck with the 890m at 30w, there is no doubt the 288v can reach within 5% of the 16% they claim
Should be testing the ultra 9 288v against the AI 9, not the 256v. Better you and cpu. This doesn't really make sense
Theres no 288v laptop yet tho 😢 cant find a single offering.
They are priced the same so it makes total sense...ASUS is offering "this" with these specs for "this" price and for comparison here is the ASUS AMD offering at the same price point.
@dankmemes3153 yes there is, stop spreading misinformation. Msi 13 ai+
@@NTWA123 link it then tough guy. There are currently no offerings available right now for purchase in the US for 288V laptops. There are only 258V versions.
I just went to msi’s estore, click on retailers and online shops tor the 288v version, there are none listed.
Also, omnibook ultra flip
I would have dropped XE naming, first gen was a disaster with drivers that never got any better. I bought a handheld 3 years ago with Intel XE and it was miserable up until games started requiring DX12 full support and refused to run altogether. While both Vega8 and later 680m were perfectly fine.
Seems promising!
wtf is your youtube??
is this a bot?
Bto
Bot
nah i just did some ressearch this is funny af i cant wait for a 3h mystery investigation video about you
It would be nice if you could limit the RAM and power to be the exact same for a more fair comparison. Also Lunar Lake is supposed to be significantly better at lower wattages, so maybe that's where Intel got their "16% better performance". Still, it's great to have competition in the laptop space (unlike desktop CPU...).
They are priced the same, that is why they are compared with one another.
Thank you for this analysis!! 5:01 Neopets goes hard!
Talking about those CPUs sounds like a wordsoup
i'm glad to see the new chips are greatly increasing integrated graphics, but those names both amd and intel have chosen are horrible.
Honestly 11% is significant when your already barely scraping by.... 1% lows have double the perceived impact vs raw data.
4:16 why are there lines connecting the data points on this graph? those are discrete data for different systems: the lines would suggest to me that they are related data for a given system through time
might aswell wait for Strix Halo
*5:50** SKIBIDI TOILET MENTIONED* 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
It's neat to see that Intel is still doing things. I mean, I'm not gonna buy the things, but I like that they keep doing the things. 🤔 Anyways, most useless comment of the day goes to me I guess
Well done sir and Madam. Hope the cpu and GPU start to compete on the side of energy consumption more.
I don't get it are content creators paid by AMD or have they turned all stupid at same time
like comparing U7 with AI9 while acknowledging the difference in power at the beginning is not only nonsensical but it's also pain and simple dumb 🤦🏽♂️
like bruh why? *WHY?*
While realizing this was a day or so ago, couldn't believe your tittle, 'The 9800X3D Goes Boom', both were due to the CPU not being installed correctly on two MSI Tomahawk MB, which many of your viewers advised , sad to see you had to use that title of 'The 9800X3D Goes Boom' to draw viewers, be it AMD or Intel, or for that matter brands of GPU's is both sad to see, and wrong!, been a long time subscriber and to capitalize like these two random issues, both that happened on Tomahawk MB's is causing me to consider un-scribing,, as while I take tech UA-camrs with a grain of salt, like to believe they don't to capitalize on misleading tittles to capture viewer's attention!
How the tables have turned....
Great! Intel is the best!
Thanks
I will get AI HX 395 as soon as it released. lol
I really want to hear about battle mage!!!!!
on the left-hand side Why they put intel in red and AMD in blue it’s a bit weird
Can you test it with minecraft please ?
okay now we are asking "Has Intel Finally Caught Up?" it was used to be has amd caught up
shame they cost an arm and a leg
Lunar lake is the best architecture of 2024
Yes and no it's great for low to mid end but it's limited by low corcount and low pwr package
Overall... no, the M4 blows it away. If you are talking x86 compatible, its iffy.
@@AyaWetts m4 is too expensive
@@AyaWettsif it's not perfectly compatible then it's not way near the best
no
I hope Intel comes back to prime!
intel is for those who want 250w winter heaters
Not anymore
You know that we're talking about laptop architectures here, right? 250W is the power consumption of a whole laptop, with most of it being the GPU. At least watch the video before you bash Intel. This is coming from someone who bought a 9800x3d, so yes I prefer AMD
You living under a rock?
tell me you didn't watch the video without telling you...
been bashing intel since 5800x3d, switched from 7800X3D to 9800X3D because i like to be top
bruh, the new cpu names suck
At this price, just buy the 16GB 256Gb M4 $599 and a portable monitor.
For web bowsering? lol
you're watching a video about gaming benchmarks. Macs are not ideal for gaming.
@brandonchan5620 For months prior to launch they were claiming the M4 was going to be 4060 fast. Now that it's out, they're still in the comments claiming 3060. At $599 USD, it's a dead heat with $350 780M systems, ignoring all the compatibility layer issues that is...
@@drewnewby Yes, you can find 7840HS TSMC N4 around $370 but it's barebone. M4 iGPU rated 4.26 TFLOPS FP32 which is slightly better than 12CU 780M. Of course, one can argue they can go with 7840HS with a little cheaper but M4 CPU side is way better if you don't need more than 16 GB ram.
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc They're not bare-bones, but nice try. You cannot compare FLOPs between different architectures, amateur hour, do research. I've already compiled results from multiple sites and channels. The base M4 has great single core performance, but is behind the 7840HS in multicore and iGPU performance. There wasn't enough die space on the SoC for more, even at 3 nm. Do not expect the 16 GB to be enough, it's "unified" aka shared. Not good for any app or game on compatibility layer, which is most. Single core benchmarks, and Metal based tests are really confusing you guys, it's a shame.
That 16% stat should be illegal to advertise
The 256V has less RAM and slower clocks than the 288V. There are benchmarks by that show the 268V is actually neck and neck with the 890m at 30w, there is no doubt the 288v can reach within 5% of the 16% they claim
nah comparing 256V instead of 288V then saying it doesn't matter should be illegal to upload
Wow
Wow