In case anyone is wondering how an engine can miss a move like this but see how powerful it is afterwards, I'm something of an expert in chess engines. It's due to something called pruning, which is difficult to describe succinctly, but I'll try. (Edit: due to a lot of feedback I'm editing this slightly to remove some terminology that is triggering to people who are rightly pointing out that there's a technical error in this analysis. I don't think it's a very consequential error, but I want to head-off further objections that are technically correct, but IMO miss the point.) A chess engine searches for moves using something called a move tree. Basically if you pick a move, then try all the moves that result, then try all the moves that result from those moves, etc, you end up with something that looks like a tree, this is called the search tree. With each move that is tried, the search tree grows exponentially. This means no matter how fast the computer, as the search tree gets large, it becomes impossible to check every move. So to search to a greater depth (deeper into the tree) it is necessary to "prune" the tree, meaning we cut off branches that are "obviously" bad, and don't search them at all! How can a move be so obviously bad that we decide to ignore its entire branch in the tree? This is where pruning comes in. Let's say it's blacks turn, and we check a branch and it leads to a plus 3 evaluation for white (i.e. white would get a piece up). If we already found a branch that leads to an even score for black, we cut off the branch a soon as we find the moves that lead to plus three for white, and we no longer have to check anything in that branch. This technique would be fine in theory if it weren't for the fact that engines have a dirty little secret. Engines ABSOLUTELY SUCK at evaluating a board position. If this is true how can they beat the best player in the world? The answer is by looking so far ahead that the crappy board evaluation routine becomes less relevant. If we find a branch that leads to utter domination 20 moves later, it doesn't really matter that our evaluation is off by a point or two. In practice this means engines can miss great moves for a variety of reasons, but it almost certainly comes down to a bad pruning at some point, leading to the engine not even checking the move or even the branch the move is on. As I said this is difficult to explain for non programmers but hopefully this gives you the big idea. Feel free to ask questions for anything that was unclear! I love this stuff and I'd be happy to explain further.
You're both quite welcome. Here are a couple more interesting observations. Imagine if the computer could perfectly evaluate a board position (determine who is winning and by how much). Then there would be no need for a search! You could just try each move and pick the one with the best score for the current player. Every other move would lead to an "alpha beta" cutoff (a type of pruning)! So the better you order the moves, trying the best moves first, the smaller (narrower) the tree. This is why alpha zero searches far fewer moves than stockfish but still crushes stockfish. It uses a traditional search, but the neural network is much much better at evaluating a board position than stockfish, because it learned through experience rather than by simply being told that a queen is worth 9 points, rook 5, etc. In fact, alpha zero doesn't even know the point value of pieces! Or at least it never was explicitly programmed to know them. It's simply better at evaluating a given board position. Reverse engineering how alpha zero valuates a position is sadly not possible, any more than we could look at your neurons firing and figure out how you value things. We can gain some insights by looking at the neural network but it's a bit like trying to read music by looking at the grooves on a vinyl record. To really hear the music you have to play the album. This is why alpha zero makes brilliant sacrifices and plays like Tal or Morphy. Nobody ever told it about the value of material. Everything it knows about chess it learned by experience rather than preprogrammed values.
@@maxkho00 I used the stockfish engine on lichess and it found the move instantly. On a second thought though, it probable that someone just put this game in the machine's database.
Dave: How would you account for this discrepancy between you and the twin 9000? HAL: Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error. Frank: Listen HAL. There has never been any instance at all of a computer error occurring in the 9000 series, has there? HAL: None whatsoever, Frank. The 9000 series has a perfect operational record. Frank: Well of course I know all the wonderful achievements of the 9000 series, but, uh, are you certain there has never been any case of even the most insignificant computer error? HAL: None whatsoever, Frank. Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
Agadmator : this is the most legendary move in the history of legendary moves . If you find it you are legendary. Comments: wowow the dog in the background
I've developed an engine that can find this move. I call it Lekobook -- it looks up positions in Chessbase to see if it's a position Peter Leko has ever seen. If it is, it plays what Leko did, otherwise it plays something random.
I actually found this move, I didn’t know exactly why it’s so strong, but I figured it’s the only move for black. I doubt I would have found this move in an actual game as there wouldn’t be agadmator warning me that there’s 1 brilliant move that I could make but I’m still quite proud of myself.
The queen move was also my first guess but only because agadmator told me that the pawn capture was the wrong answer. I would have taken the pawn any day of the week in that position, it's such an obvious move.
I found this move as well, but only because like for you, to me it seemed the only possible move for black. However, I didn't even think of the knight moves afterwards, which were genius.
Exactly if agad didn’t tell me bishop was bad I probably would have done it. But it’s only because he told me it was bad I just guessed queen was good enough.
Stefan Dumitru same....it's easier if you're looking for it I have to say. Calculated the first line e.g Q+ Kg2 Bxf3 Nx Qe2+; but missed the other line which is more difficult imo
Your dog put on a great show today. And so did you. My computer suggested Knight e8 and only after that move did it come up with Queen d3! Awesome game. Give your dog a treat!
I recently re-took up chess. As I stopped playing a while ago, I never really watched on line chess or checked out videos. So as I have come home, I have to say they are great. The commentator makes it. He great!!! Chess is great! But like anything else it's nothing without people. And this guy is great at it! Good content, witty yet brief comments. And he's not full of himself! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I feel like a historian giving thanks to the ancients for providing info. Yours was the first comment I saw to answer. With Agadmator giving a like, I take this as true. I shall look further into this human online.
@@oscaro.172 Thank you, oh wise sage. My knowledge of chess is not yet vast, neither in history nor in theory. Your comment may lead to the furthering of my chess education! (Btw, I didn't actually expect you to respond to my reply on a 6 y/o comment. This is very much appreciated, thank you human!)
It's not about finding the move. It's about understanding why that move is so good, the reason behind it, the whole concept. Leko knew and I believe the moves after that felt natural to him.
I'm convinced the dog neither knows or cares about cameras, he's triggering on the human apparently talking to himself. Either that, or he's just _always_ like that.
I’m weirdly proud of myself finding that queen move. It was one of 3 moves I thought would be good. However I doubt I would have been able to follow up a brilliant move like that to victory
Same here, I also thought it had to be something done with the queen… and then I was like “if it’s queen, what is the next move??” That’s why they play and we watch 🤣
My old hand-held Radio Shack 1450, (endorsed by Kasparov), found Q-d3 after a bit of a wait, but was not equipped to follow up v the best moves by white. Still pretty good for an antique !
How come I never get any of the moves and am forced to "enjoy the show" but the one time I actually get it right is the 8d chess move that engines can't find
Same here. I just assumed that it was that move because what else allows him to control the space around the king? No idea if there is some higher level to why it worked.
It’s just that we (yes I’m assuming) probably only looked 2 lines deep and so check check blah blah uhhh. But in professional games you literally have to look at every line because even the slightest inaccuracy will lose you the game and I just realized I tagged the wrong person
rakib .h It's a reference to an interview between Maurice Ashley and Magnus Carlsen when Magnus got annoyed by one of the questions and at some point he said what was quoted ^^
FINALLY!!!! I've watched sooooo many of your videos and I always pause to do an analysis when you prompt us to. Usually I spend a solid half hour and find at least one line I'd feel confident in playing. Then I get my hopes and dreams crushed. NOT TODAY!!!! I FINALLY SOLVED ONE, AND FOR THE RIGHT REASON! Wow that's a lot of excitement!
I really enjoyed this game because I would never ever be able to find the move a year ago but after watching your channel like every day,I did find the move in just less than a minute and it was in this moment I realized watching your channel not only was about the enjoying the chess but it actually made me stronger, I know it doesn't even matter for you and probably for anyone but by watching your videos I don't really remember what was the last time I did blunder a Queen which was happening for me a lot, I also remember exactly when I was watching your channel for the first time my brother told me it is boring and it will never improve your chess,but here I am. I just played against my brother 7 times in 2 months and 7 victories so Thanks
I just tried this out with the original "The Chessmaster" for the SNES from 1991 and when it's set to a higher level of play, it actually finds the move rather quickly... Seems like this old engine is really good for it's time!
@@konroh2 You think a specific line from a game that was played in 2004 was programmed into a Nintendo game from 1991....? Give me some of that timetravel-kush you're smoking.
@@xeofreestyler I didn't realize the timeframe here. I thought it was an older game. I've found old chess engines to know a lot of specific lines and be stronger than people think.
Or perhaps CM simply did the same thing as this commenter below (without being clever enough for the follow-up "oh wait, it can't be this", let alone the even cleverer follow-up "oh wait, it is"): "I found the move and was instantly like: wait, it can't be this because it doesn't achieve anything and the passed pawn will become a queen. Oh boy was I wrong."
I haven’t played chess in years, im 20 and still im just baffled by how much you know about this sport, I have huge respect for the game and although I’m not playing, I really enjoy your videos explaining the moves
Antonio is a great player .... That is undeniable .... But if your baffled by him you cannot manage to even comprehend how good grandmasters are ( like carlsen , Kasparov ) ...
It is crazy how engines only 4 years ago were not able to see this move, that is, they were weaker as compared to the engines of 2022. I just put this position into stockfish 14.1 NNUE and instantly got recommended the move shown in the game that is; !!Qd3. In just 4 years, the engines have improved so much. It is mad. It is also interesting as to where the engines will take us in the next few years.
@@Meander_ _"It's also insane how the answer to this is actually Kf2, that leads to a perpetual."_ No. Kf2 was played in the game and it leads to white getting checkmated. lol
I think engines are also trained with actual chess games, and this game must be one of their latest training sets. That's why current engines are able to find the move.
@@someguywithnomustache4169 yeah but after learning it from leko , it's like saying you learnt how to clean your own ass at 12 years old after your dad taught you at 9
Only just started showing an interest in chess (thanks to your channel). Your analysis has helped me improve just after a week, so thanks 👍. Very enjoyable channel.
Not to start anything, agadmator, but I got curious and interested when you said we try if our engines might guess this invisible move, so I fired up my years-dormant Scidformac with Stockfish 9.64, setup the board similar to the pause point and let it solve for the next move. Yes, the first suggestions were Bxa6 but after a few seconds, Qd3 started popping up all through to the end of the list, with the final Qd3 having a score of +72.0! So, going with that, I was sure glad to see the engine's suggestion proven the right one once going forward with the video :)
Thanks for your videos. Just a comment re: @7:55 "every engine I tried gives Bxh6": Stockfish 9 finds Qd3 in 6 seconds at a higher score, and at 7 seconds with winning score. (I have an 8-core machine with 6-piece EGTB with 8 GB of memory allocated for the engine.) Without the 6-piece EGTB, it finds it even faster: 1 second to even more significantly winning score (and yes, I cleared the cache and restarted the engine).
A brilliant game. Thank you. I'm several years behind the release of this video but my Stockfish engine found Qd2 on the 3rd suggestion. Device - iPhone 11 Pro. Stockfish for iOS 2.13.0 (playing Stockfish 12). A fabulous move by Leko! Thank you.
I'm impressed with myself. I actually saw the queen to D3 into E3 check! But I probably wouldn't have been able to continue such a sharp line without messing up one of the other moves
Tried my two simulators and neither showed that move. But once the queen was there Aha!! Black was clearly winning lol. Not sure why it’s invisible but it’s an amazing move
I found the move and was instantly like: wait, it can't be this because it doesn't achieve anything and the passed pawn will become a queen. Oh boy was I wrong.
If you don't see the point of it or at least part of the ideas and continuations behind it, you didn't really "find" the move. You just made a random move that happened to be the first one of a whole combination of moves and possibilities.
@@xDMrGarrison I found the moves till the knight sacrifice move. At that moment I was lost and didn't know how to continue so I guess im half genius? xd
I found qd3 but I didn't know why it was good. I thought if there's a special move in this position d3 looks like the best one but I had no follow up planned
@agadmator's Chess Channel So after queen to d3 ......why bishop b3 to c4 is not considered?.... I thought of the queen move but I thought white would play the bishop to c4
Hey @agadmator at 4:44 can't white play Queen to g4? supporting both the rook and the bishop. If the black queen captures, the Rook can recapture and it also may have some discoveries with the king on the rook's line?
I saw this game on-line and Knaack - a former GDR chess champion, who was commentating it - could not understand Qd3 either on the spot, he held it for a blunder -, but later he said it is a move that marches in into chess history! Kramnik congratulated Leko as well after the match but he said, Peter shouldn't think he has already won, he (=Kramnik) can play chess as well... (Unfortunately he showed his abilities in the last game, really) I was so proud as a Hungarian that I was laughing for a week. I had tried to make engines search for the move many years ago - when the engines were much weaker than today - of course nothing was found they did not have the slightest idea about it If an Oscar prize could be given in chess for anything, I would vote for Qd3.... By the way, the Arabic subtitle is very disturbing, the last row of the board is covered.
"I'll give you 5 seconds to find the move", "If you find this move you're a genius"... but shows the move in the video thumbnail the person had to click to get to the video >.>
I didn't see the thumbnail that well before I clicked the video, it was just in my peripheral vision.. Idk how its genius Im a 500 in blitz, 800 in classical on chess.com and I found it in 10 seconds. This just shows that genius moves aren't just for grandmasters to find, but gms need to keep making them whilst we make bad moves in between our good moves at my level. Im clearly not flexing im terrible at chess.
7:18 I don't understand when he says "Kramnik had this position on the board. Before the game, he and his team decided this was of course winning for white". Does he mean the team went and analyzed every move Leko was likely to play up to move 20 or w/e it is?
I’m watching this two years later on a Sunday and it was in this position my Sunday was improved.
Yes my everyday is improved by agadmator's video
Same
One week later and now I'm watching it on a Sunday and my Sunday was also improved! That dog in the background was bein so weird the whole time hahaha
Another Sunday, another better Sunday.
I found the move. This time. Not so sure about first viewing two years ago.
haha I'm watching on a sunday right now. My sunday was improved hehe !! :)
Also the dog doing the breastroke is amazing lolll
The dog backstroke swimming is the best part.
+1 :D
The 10 best traps
Yep, the dog is awesome. What's the dog's name
Half the viewers come to watch chess and the other half come to see what the dog will be doing in the background... :-)
I come here to see nude girls, but there are never featured any. :/
The dog is trying to improve his position
What's the idea here?
@@pianoboi4842 go away
@@آَّ-ض8ك no
6:30 doge is LOSIN bro lmaoo
@@pianoboi4842 the dog behind agadmator
cheaters: use engine to gain advantage
Leko: "That's a blunder."
I showed the position to my engine, 1.3L turbo diesel. It wasn't strong enough.
In case anyone is wondering how an engine can miss a move like this but see how powerful it is afterwards, I'm something of an expert in chess engines. It's due to something called pruning, which is difficult to describe succinctly, but I'll try.
(Edit: due to a lot of feedback I'm editing this slightly to remove some terminology that is triggering to people who are rightly pointing out that there's a technical error in this analysis. I don't think it's a very consequential error, but I want to head-off further objections that are technically correct, but IMO miss the point.)
A chess engine searches for moves using something called a move tree. Basically if you pick a move, then try all the moves that result, then try all the moves that result from those moves, etc, you end up with something that looks like a tree, this is called the search tree. With each move that is tried, the search tree grows exponentially. This means no matter how fast the computer, as the search tree gets large, it becomes impossible to check every move. So to search to a greater depth (deeper into the tree) it is necessary to "prune" the tree, meaning we cut off branches that are "obviously" bad, and don't search them at all!
How can a move be so obviously bad that we decide to ignore its entire branch in the tree? This is where pruning comes in. Let's say it's blacks turn, and we check a branch and it leads to a plus 3 evaluation for white (i.e. white would get a piece up). If we already found a branch that leads to an even score for black, we cut off the branch a soon as we find the moves that lead to plus three for white, and we no longer have to check anything in that branch.
This technique would be fine in theory if it weren't for the fact that engines have a dirty little secret. Engines ABSOLUTELY SUCK at evaluating a board position. If this is true how can they beat the best player in the world? The answer is by looking so far ahead that the crappy board evaluation routine becomes less relevant. If we find a branch that leads to utter domination 20 moves later, it doesn't really matter that our evaluation is off by a point or two.
In practice this means engines can miss great moves for a variety of reasons, but it almost certainly comes down to a bad pruning at some point, leading to the engine not even checking the move or even the branch the move is on.
As I said this is difficult to explain for non programmers but hopefully this gives you the big idea. Feel free to ask questions for anything that was unclear! I love this stuff and I'd be happy to explain further.
Actually that was very well explained, well done!
You are an excellent explainer of chess engine magic
That's a great explanation, thank you :)
You're both quite welcome. Here are a couple more interesting observations. Imagine if the computer could perfectly evaluate a board position (determine who is winning and by how much). Then there would be no need for a search! You could just try each move and pick the one with the best score for the current player. Every other move would lead to an "alpha beta" cutoff (a type of pruning)! So the better you order the moves, trying the best moves first, the smaller (narrower) the tree. This is why alpha zero searches far fewer moves than stockfish but still crushes stockfish. It uses a traditional search, but the neural network is much much better at evaluating a board position than stockfish, because it learned through experience rather than by simply being told that a queen is worth 9 points, rook 5, etc. In fact, alpha zero doesn't even know the point value of pieces! Or at least it never was explicitly programmed to know them. It's simply better at evaluating a given board position.
Reverse engineering how alpha zero valuates a position is sadly not possible, any more than we could look at your neurons firing and figure out how you value things. We can gain some insights by looking at the neural network but it's a bit like trying to read music by looking at the grooves on a vinyl record. To really hear the music you have to play the album.
This is why alpha zero makes brilliant sacrifices and plays like Tal or Morphy. Nobody ever told it about the value of material. Everything it knows about chess it learned by experience rather than preprogrammed values.
Beautiful information my good sir
Well said!
One and a half year later, it's now 2020 and Stockfish 10 found this move immediately. The machines are evolving fast.
Yeah, very interesting. It's -1 before and -6.2 after Qd3. What a strong move!
Maybe someone just put in that specific move for that board layout, not that the machine figured it out itself?
game between great GM in big tournaments goes in the database almost instantly, the same database that the engines use of course.
@@maxkho00 I used the stockfish engine on lichess and it found the move instantly. On a second thought though, it probable that someone just put this game in the machine's database.
@@Anonymous33388 That's probably it, because chess.com still can't find it even by using the exact same engine, as I said.
6:53 and in this position the dog fell off the couch. Why did he fall? Well theres no moves to be made, hes out of space on the couch and he falls.
completely winning position for the couch
tears of laughter to my eyes - dogs are silly & mans best friend despite
Hahahaha
Dog captures, couch captures, dog catles, couch cannot capture beacuse capture capture mate in six, so couch e6.
He is agadmator s chess engine nd was stunned by peter leko s queen move 😅
Bad joke.. ya i know
“White’s pawn structure is awesome. Black’s pawn structure is... you know... rather sad.” 5:30
Engines:
🤖 ... a disgusting *H U M A N* line
LOL
Feel free to pause the video a few nanoseconds and run your algorithms in search of this filthy Primate idea
Dave:
How would you account for this discrepancy between you and the twin 9000?
HAL:
Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error.
Frank:
Listen HAL. There has never been any instance at all of a computer error occurring in the 9000 series, has there?
HAL:
None whatsoever, Frank. The 9000 series has a perfect operational record.
Frank:
Well of course I know all the wonderful achievements of the 9000 series, but, uh, are you certain there has never been any case of even the most insignificant computer error?
HAL:
None whatsoever, Frank. Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
Best ever comment on this channel!
hahaha
Agadmator : this is the most legendary move in the history of legendary moves . If you find it you are legendary.
Comments: wowow the dog in the background
Lmao
Why it is so legendary? it was obvious that this was the best move for black.
I found the move but I wasn't able to find complete continuation 😥
@@MM-xi9dq Thank you, too true. I did not even pause the video and I found it immediately. I'm in no way a chess legend either, just a good player.
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 it's not about finding the move , but also the continuation after that
The dog is having the time of his life in the background
Chasing a rabbit in his dog-dreams.
Some said it was having a seizure
His Sunday was improved
Ugh, I just posted the same thing. People will think I stole the comment, lol.
A beautiful dog that will be remembered in the history of chess
I've developed an engine that can find this move. I call it Lekobook -- it looks up positions in Chessbase to see if it's a position Peter Leko has ever seen. If it is, it plays what Leko did, otherwise it plays something random.
Thats genius
I think adding more GMs will make this a great idea :P
Gives a problem, programmer solves the problem and only the problem.
@@bwaybig it's a perfect engine!
The addition of randomness makes it LekoLoco
293 engines watched this video
kunal 19 lol xD
Shit its at 420 engine’s
Engines HATE this move
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Yup
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Three years later it did improve my Sunday.
here after leko found Re1 Bg6 in magnus hikaru game... alireza firouzja thought that hikaru's Re1 was winning
I actually found this move, I didn’t know exactly why it’s so strong, but I figured it’s the only move for black. I doubt I would have found this move in an actual game as there wouldn’t be agadmator warning me that there’s 1 brilliant move that I could make but I’m still quite proud of myself.
The queen move was also my first guess but only because agadmator told me that the pawn capture was the wrong answer. I would have taken the pawn any day of the week in that position, it's such an obvious move.
I found this move as well, but only because like for you, to me it seemed the only possible move for black. However, I didn't even think of the knight moves afterwards, which were genius.
Exactly if agad didn’t tell me bishop was bad I probably would have done it. But it’s only because he told me it was bad I just guessed queen was good enough.
Stefan Dumitru same....it's easier if you're looking for it I have to say. Calculated the first line e.g Q+ Kg2 Bxf3 Nx Qe2+; but missed the other line which is more difficult imo
you are all liars
Your dog put on a great show today. And so did you. My computer suggested Knight e8 and only after that move did it come up with Queen d3! Awesome game. Give your dog a treat!
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I'd say the dog could use a good scratch.
Indeed
or he needed a good racing area hahahahaha
I see the dog has great commentary of their own.
2 years later here, but Stockfish 12 sees the move Queen to D3 correctly.
they probably hardcoded it in after this e m b a r a s s i n g attack on engines
Yip, and interestingly, it finds a different line to the Qxa1. It plays g4, threatening the knight and continuing the attack on the king.
SF shows -2 after depth 20 and -4 after depth 23.
Because this game is in the data base and the position is also in the data base there fore developers evaluated this line in stock fish
@@distructivegaming5494 no, stockfish doesn’t use a database.
The dislikes are just engines that are pissed off by human brilliance
For the first time have I seen a legendary GM sac his queen and then say.....the game would be remembered...... but for his opponent's move
Kasparov would just leave the room
1:55 Dog to K9........
Horny
Old Seadog That’s a good one
The best move in this video
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K9!!! Brilliancy
I recently re-took up chess. As I stopped playing a while ago, I never really watched on line chess or checked out videos. So as I have come home, I have to say they are great. The commentator makes it. He great!!! Chess is great! But like anything else it's nothing without people. And this guy is great at it! Good content, witty yet brief comments. And he's not full of himself! Keep up the great work!
"Black's pawn structure is rather sad" 😂
the three lonely islands
dog.exe has stopped working @2:19
Shawarmaboy You busted me up with that one!
My impressively vast knowledge tells me that's Yasser Seirawan, the ultimate chess commentator :)
Thank you! I feel like a historian giving thanks to the ancients for providing info.
Yours was the first comment I saw to answer. With Agadmator giving a like, I take this as true. I shall look further into this human online.
@joshuasbandit Then you have a world of greatness left to discover, o young one.
@@oscaro.172 Thank you, oh wise sage. My knowledge of chess is not yet vast, neither in history nor in theory. Your comment may lead to the furthering of my chess education!
(Btw, I didn't actually expect you to respond to my reply on a 6 y/o comment. This is very much appreciated, thank you human!)
It's not about finding the move. It's about understanding why that move is so good, the reason behind it, the whole concept. Leko knew and I believe the moves after that felt natural to him.
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"Black's pawn structure is rather sad." Haha I like agadmator's choice of words.
Yeah, reminds me of Eric Rosen
For some reason I thought he was about to say shit but then all he said was sad.
Your dog in the background is having a stroke but man this is a masterpiece.
I'm now absolutely convinced that dog knows exactly when the camera is rolling.
FabledSomething I'm absolutely convinced that an engine couldn't find this move
I'm convinced the dog neither knows or cares about cameras, he's triggering on the human apparently talking to himself. Either that, or he's just _always_ like that.
I’m weirdly proud of myself finding that queen move. It was one of 3 moves I thought would be good. However I doubt I would have been able to follow up a brilliant move like that to victory
Same here, I also thought it had to be something done with the queen… and then I was like “if it’s queen, what is the next move??”
That’s why they play and we watch 🤣
same
My old hand-held Radio Shack 1450, (endorsed by Kasparov), found Q-d3 after a bit of a wait, but was not equipped to follow up v the best moves by white. Still pretty good for an antique !
How come I never get any of the moves and am forced to "enjoy the show" but the one time I actually get it right is the 8d chess move that engines can't find
Same here. I just assumed that it was that move because what else allows him to control the space around the king? No idea if there is some higher level to why it worked.
Same. I was just like "oh qd3 and then you go qe3+ and um I guess you do something something and then something and somehow you mate him?"
@@aerialkiller5948 Exactly! :D That was my strategy too, and it worked! (Except I replaced qd3 with a "something", too.)
It’s just that we (yes I’m assuming) probably only looked 2 lines deep and so check check blah blah uhhh. But in professional games you literally have to look at every line because even the slightest inaccuracy will lose you the game and I just realized I tagged the wrong person
Freddy Mercury? ;)
:)
You beat me to it. He could be a clone.
He had a Killer Queen but just wanted to Play The Game :)
Very good, very good indeed... and witty.
Thx! You're My Best Friend ;)
My engine told me: i mean what do you expect me to do
Cameron Smith I see what you did there
I fucking loved what you did there mate
i didnt get it
rakib .h It's a reference to an interview between Maurice Ashley and Magnus Carlsen when Magnus got annoyed by one of the questions and at some point he said what was quoted ^^
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"A beautiful game that will be remembered in the history of chess."
*Everyone only focused on the dog.
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That dog is going to need a nap after all his "running" during his nap.
Came for the strategies, stayed for the flailing doggo in the background.
Your dog is having a seizure while you talking about a chess game lol.
Lol😂😂
Ahahaha
5 years later, I watched this on a sunday, as god intended
FINALLY!!!! I've watched sooooo many of your videos and I always pause to do an analysis when you prompt us to. Usually I spend a solid half hour and find at least one line I'd feel confident in playing. Then I get my hopes and dreams crushed.
NOT TODAY!!!! I FINALLY SOLVED ONE, AND FOR THE RIGHT REASON! Wow that's a lot of excitement!
I really enjoyed this game because I would never ever be able to find the move a year ago but after watching your channel like every day,I did find the move in just less than a minute and it was in this moment I realized watching your channel not only was about the enjoying the chess but it actually made me stronger, I know it doesn't even matter for you and probably for anyone but by watching your videos I don't really remember what was the last time I did blunder a Queen which was happening for me a lot, I also remember exactly when I was watching your channel for the first time my brother told me it is boring and it will never improve your chess,but here I am. I just played against my brother 7 times in 2 months and 7 victories so Thanks
I just tried this out with the original "The Chessmaster" for the SNES from 1991 and when it's set to a higher level of play, it actually finds the move rather quickly... Seems like this old engine is really good for it's time!
Probably these games were programmed into it. Or at least certain lines of games.
@@konroh2 You think a specific line from a game that was played in 2004 was programmed into a Nintendo game from 1991....?
Give me some of that timetravel-kush you're smoking.
@@xeofreestyler I didn't realize the timeframe here. I thought it was an older game. I've found old chess engines to know a lot of specific lines and be stronger than people think.
Or perhaps CM simply did the same thing as this commenter below (without being clever enough for the follow-up "oh wait, it can't be this", let alone the even cleverer follow-up "oh wait, it is"):
"I found the move and was instantly like: wait, it can't be this because it doesn't achieve anything and the passed pawn will become a queen. Oh boy was I wrong."
A broken clock is correct twice a day.
I like this dude's narration of these games.
dude your dog is crazy
Ahmetcan Ozkan all dogs are crazy 😜
When I see Medo doing the upside dog paddle, you know something good moves are coming on the chessboard.
i love the internet
the fact that he pays no attention to his dog spazzing out right behind him is hilarious.
2:20 the move was so great even the dog couldn't contain his joy
I haven’t played chess in years, im 20 and still im just baffled by how much you know about this sport, I have huge respect for the game and although I’m not playing, I really enjoy your videos explaining the moves
Antonio is a great player .... That is undeniable .... But if your baffled by him you cannot manage to even comprehend how good grandmasters are ( like carlsen , Kasparov ) ...
Found it in a few seconds. Made my day. I used to be a very good player when I was younger but not played for a while. Trying to get back into it.
do you play on chess.com or lichess?
Your dog spazzing out in the background makes this so much better! 😂
Everyone loves his dog. Needs his own YT channel.
@@tna_handyandy5173 Agreed.
It is crazy how engines only 4 years ago were not able to see this move, that is, they were weaker as compared to the engines of 2022. I just put this position into stockfish 14.1 NNUE and instantly got recommended the move shown in the game that is; !!Qd3.
In just 4 years, the engines have improved so much. It is mad. It is also interesting as to where the engines will take us in the next few years.
It's also insane how the answer to this is actually Kf2, that leads to a perpetual.
Engines from 4 years ago? Try an engine from 14 years go...old Rybka 3 (from 2008) finds Qd3 in 1 second on an old pc. lol
@@Meander_ _"It's also insane how the answer to this is actually Kf2, that leads to a perpetual."_
No. Kf2 was played in the game and it leads to white getting checkmated. lol
I think engines are also trained with actual chess games, and this game must be one of their latest training sets. That's why current engines are able to find the move.
mean while his dog: "I can surely get more attention than you" 🤣
What's the split on the YT revenue, dog/Agmator?
I hate that I randomly guessed Qd3 in all seriousness
same here lol
Same
Same
Yep, me too. Did not see anything after it, just said Qd3.
Yeah why is that happening sometimes you just feel the right move, but sometimes it is just a terrible blunder.
Agadmator: so, I will give you a few seconds to try and find the move
Me: looks at thumbnail
agadmator should include this game in his chess anime cause it's legit a human defeating a robot
Pretty sure stockfish 12 could easily find this...
@@someguywithnomustache4169 yeah but after learning it from leko , it's like saying you learnt how to clean your own ass at 12 years old after your dad taught you at 9
@@nextgenfootball69420 ?? If u go stock 8 it probably couldnt find it. It's just 12 was just better than 8.
@@someguywithnomustache4169 that's obvious
@@someguywithnomustache4169 dude it was ADDED after this match.
Honestly l cant concentrate because of your dog....I mean it's so funny
Lol, the dog in the background is priceless, congrats it didn't distract you.
Ok
It makes the vid so much better in my humble opinion.
Upvoted for doggo flailing in the background lol
Content is also good
I come back and watch this video every now and then and each time I watch that move gets even more impressive
Freddie Marcury, nailed it!
Only just started showing an interest in chess (thanks to your channel).
Your analysis has helped me improve just after a week, so thanks 👍.
Very enjoyable channel.
1 year later, the moustache is back. You’re a clairvoyant genius
The Weeknd rocking it!
Not to start anything, agadmator, but I got curious and interested when you said we try if our engines might guess this invisible move, so I fired up my years-dormant Scidformac with Stockfish 9.64, setup the board similar to the pause point and let it solve for the next move. Yes, the first suggestions were Bxa6 but after a few seconds, Qd3 started popping up all through to the end of the list, with the final Qd3 having a score of +72.0! So, going with that, I was sure glad to see the engine's suggestion proven the right one once going forward with the video :)
2:18 that little brown guy on the couch is doing the upside down running man
It's a fucking dog lol.😂
2:18 That is the cutest thing that i have ever seen
No
2:00 Your dog seems to have forgotten how to run.
Engine : " feel free to pause the video and try to find this disgusting primate pattern "
2:18 It is as of a Dancing Dog that we have a completely new game.
Thanks for your videos. Just a comment re: @7:55 "every engine I tried gives Bxh6": Stockfish 9 finds Qd3 in 6 seconds at a higher score, and at 7 seconds with winning score. (I have an 8-core machine with 6-piece EGTB with 8 GB of memory allocated for the engine.) Without the 6-piece EGTB, it finds it even faster: 1 second to even more significantly winning score (and yes, I cleared the cache and restarted the engine).
Stockfish 7 found Qd3 in few seconds with -4.5 eval
A brilliant game. Thank you. I'm several years behind the release of this video but my Stockfish engine found Qd2 on the 3rd suggestion. Device - iPhone 11 Pro. Stockfish for iOS 2.13.0 (playing Stockfish 12). A fabulous move by Leko! Thank you.
I'm impressed with myself. I actually saw the queen to D3 into E3 check! But I probably wouldn't have been able to continue such a sharp line without messing up one of the other moves
This wonderful channel has rekindled my love for the game of Chess, Well done, and always interesting.
It’s hard to focus on the game when your dog is under attack by invisible bees!
Watching this 5 years later on a Sunday and it's not your fault that my day is improved
Tried my two simulators and neither showed that move. But once the queen was there Aha!! Black was clearly winning lol. Not sure why it’s invisible but it’s an amazing move
I think engines disregard this line as at a first glance, the pawn will queen. However this is not so.
I found the move and was instantly like: wait, it can't be this because it doesn't achieve anything and the passed pawn will become a queen. Oh boy was I wrong.
Same i found the moves but not all the prosecution of the games
If you don't see the point of it or at least part of the ideas and continuations behind it, you didn't really "find" the move. You just made a random move that happened to be the first one of a whole combination of moves and possibilities.
@@xDMrGarrison I found the moves till the knight sacrifice move. At that moment I was lost and didn't know how to continue so I guess im half genius? xd
@@Jaxyndamere he literally said "if you don't find the whole combination you didn't really find the move" what part of that did you not get? Idiot
@Don Lorenzo he needs to find the whole series of moves not just the first idiot.
I think your dog is broken
That's what happens when you adopt Moon Moon.
2:30 The dog in the background have its greatest time of his life. 😂
"It's not my fault if that's true..."
Love these opening lines...no pun intended! :)
I generally just NE but i loled when he said it
Agadmator: "This game will improve your Sunday."
Dog: "Hold my bone."
I found qd3 but I didn't know why it was good. I thought if there's a special move in this position d3 looks like the best one but I had no follow up planned
same. sometimes its not hard to find the move, but its hard to understand why its good and what comes next
Yeah me too. I knew the continuation was qe3, but after that, I would have no idea. Likewise I had no idea why it was good.
Damn, bro was really right about that *moustache comeback*
The basic Stockfish 10+ on Lichess found this move after about depth 17... so not invisible anymore :)
Posted on june 2018
Deep Rybka on 6 cpus found the move at a depth of 13 after less than 30 seconds. i7 6700K under Wine on OpenSUSE.
Wow
Stockfish8 found it immediately, also
the "basic" stockfish 10+ you speak of is one of the strongest chess engines in the world
@agadmator's Chess Channel
So after queen to d3 ......why bishop b3 to c4 is not considered?....
I thought of the queen move but I thought white would play the bishop to c4
2 years later Stockfish 12 finds this move with ease.
bullshit, stockfish didn't find this move, leko did, stockfish merely copied it in the next version
@@nextgenfootball69420 not how AI works
@@justsomecommentchannel8602 it's exactly how ai works, read about reinforcement learning
@@nextgenfootball69420 not quite, it uses the information from the games to modify the behavior of the AI. it doesn't "steal the move"
Just some comment channel I didn’t say steal, I said copy and you just described copying
Hey @agadmator at 4:44 can't white play Queen to g4? supporting both the rook and the bishop. If the black queen captures, the Rook can recapture and it also may have some discoveries with the king on the rook's line?
The bishop on c8 will recapture the rook, thereby making you a rook down
2:30 your dog is having some fun back there. funny that you keep your cool
I saw this game on-line and Knaack - a former GDR chess champion, who was commentating it - could not understand Qd3 either on the spot, he held it for a blunder -, but later he said it is a move that marches in into chess history! Kramnik congratulated Leko as well after the match but he said, Peter shouldn't think he has already won, he (=Kramnik) can play chess as well... (Unfortunately he showed his abilities in the last game, really) I was so proud as a Hungarian that I was laughing for a week. I had tried to make engines search for the move many years ago - when the engines were much weaker than today - of course nothing was found they did not have the slightest idea about it If an Oscar prize could be given in chess for anything, I would vote for Qd3.... By the way, the Arabic subtitle is very disturbing, the last row of the board is covered.
"I'll give you 5 seconds to find the move", "If you find this move you're a genius"... but shows the move in the video thumbnail the person had to click to get to the video >.>
Haha yeah, that made me chuckle a bit :D
I didn't see the thumbnail that well before I clicked the video, it was just in my peripheral vision.. Idk how its genius Im a 500 in blitz, 800 in classical on chess.com and I found it in 10 seconds. This just shows that genius moves aren't just for grandmasters to find, but gms need to keep making them whilst we make bad moves in between our good moves at my level. Im clearly not flexing im terrible at chess.
@@Stop_being_younger_than_me no
@@bellers5086 Ok? Its either ignore or elaborate what is wrong.
@@Stop_being_younger_than_me nope it's not either or
I found it because your thumbnail preview for this video gave it away!
2:20 dog is having a seizure... carry on😂. Or dreaming of chasing something it’ll never catch...
Here we are, five years later and Stockfish 7 finds Qd3. I think it's because I'm running AMD 7000 with 16 cores...
It's quite surprising how Kramnik and his team couldn't see the Qd3. Chess is a Game of Beauty.❤️
7:18 I don't understand when he says "Kramnik had this position on the board. Before the game, he and his team decided this was of course winning for white". Does he mean the team went and analyzed every move Leko was likely to play up to move 20 or w/e it is?
I love going around telling people how the games I’ve lost will be remembered in history..
Kramnik pure class unlike Kasparov.
And young Yasser Seirawan looks like a south american drug lord.
Yeah, kasparov uses deep theory.
The dog though
Leko's high voice drives me crazy but after seeing this, he will have my eternal respect.
2½ years later we see Medo at his best, celebrating the "greatest move".
2:19 your dog is having a nice dream haha