good overview, did i miss the part where he magically got to the correct length? 2 more minutes on this video would be super helpful to see how he got he correct length with his calipers.
This video fails to demo the adjustment part. I use a Frankford Arsenal 4 station case prep center with a Lee threaded cutter and lock stud. I buy a $7 case length gauge and shell holder for each cartridge and there’s no measuring or adjusting. Just trimming.
Agreed. How are we supposed to know how much material we are removing? He even said “I like to cut my .308 case to 2.000 even”… *proceeds to randomly trim some arbitrary amount*
I own and have used it for years, bring the course to zero then back it off 1.5 turns then use the fine adjustment to remove a little at a time. Check with either a mike or calipers, the nice part is once you adjust it to where you want just start cutting and swap one after another. If it's the same type brass problem
I have the case prep center, 4 threaded, motorized positions with no trimmer. I screw the Lee threaded trimmer into one position, then a primer cleaner, chamfer, and debur tool. Prep each case in probably 10-20 seconds.
At 3:25 You say to go ahead and tighten down the coarse and fine adjustment wheels. I must have missed the part where you explain what you doing when you tighten those in the first place. I thought the idea behind trimming was to get the case down to a specific and predictable length.
Bought one. I use it all the time. Once you get the proper case length set, you can crank cases out accurately and quickly. I even bought the power drill attachment to make it quicker to trim lots of cases. Best reloading purchase I ever made.
and not having to hold onto brass with a death-grip in your fingers makes a WORLD of difference. I was starting to hate brass prep to the point I didn't even want to do it. This has helped with that.
I used one with a cheap cordless screwdriver for years. You sneak up on the “trim to length”. As others said, saving a trimmed case with your dies as a setup tool works well.
I picked one up about a year ago and i love it. I trim everything with it. I had surgery on my wrist in-between... so i got the drill adapter for it. I aint going quietly.
I have used that model for twenty five years. Like many of the commentors have mentioned, I purchased the ¼" hex shank cutting bar for cordless screwdriver powered operation. I wore an egg-shaped hole in the bronze oil bushing that the cutter bar slides/turns in. Sent it back to Lyman and they pressed a new bronze bushing in it, and didnt sent me any bill. I screwed it up by using too of a large cordless drill/driver that was too heavy, and wallered out the bushing hole. I now power it with a Ryobi 4 Volt dinky sized drill/driver, that doesnt run faster than 300-400 RPM. Lyman makes good stuff.
Sadly this didn't show how you set it for a certain length, which is the whole point of case trimming. How did you choose the depth? There isn't even a micrometer on the bench.
I have this and my experience is not good at all. It will not hold a setting no matter what is done. Haven't used it in years and will actually never use it again.
You said to let you know about my opinion, so I hope you’re not ignoring me there bro, I just wanted to say a most excellent video once again very informative, and spot on with those lineman product, reloading is an essential skill for anybody into fire arms, it is vitally important, Because with the world the way it is today it is all the more important that we can reload, and even make brass and gunpowder, I had thought I subscribe to you before, but when I went to this UA-cam I see I had not, or maybe I had and something happened, anyway I’ve re-subscribed and giving y’all a like excellent work !
That trimmer is very similar to the RCBS case trimmer 2 that I have been using for the past 20 years... the only plus I can see with the RCBS, is that I have several three way cutter heads for it. Trim, inside and outside chanfer in one operation. Kind of slick that way. Regardless, fantastic review as always, and please continue the great content!
To the best of my knowledge, the threads on the cutterhead are the same. So you could put the RCBS cutter on this unit. I think that would be optimal because I like the way this one holds the cases a little better. Might want to double-check this, but I'm almost positive that the cutter heads are interchangeable.
When you say "take just a little bit off..." are you eyeballing it and then measuring it or do you set it to trim this .308 brass to 2" and regardless of the length of this brass it will end up at that length?
You do have to measure and adjust at first. It has fine-adjustments so once you get a piece of brass that's the right length and tighten things to that piece, you are done measuring other than confirming from time to time.
Still using the Lee case trimming guides for 7.5x55, .308, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, and 9x19mm, just because the Lee pilots were set to length from the case primer hole.
Great video. I've had this trimmer for more than 40 years and it has served me very well. I have had to replace the bronze bushing on the trimmer shaft because of wear, but not really a big deal. One big improvement for me was the carbide cutter. It cuts faster and smoother than the tool steel cutter that comes with the trimmer, a little pricy but worth the money. My trimmer didn't come with any pilots, so I did purchase some and found that they are not machined with a square shoulder on the back side which allows the brass to fold around the back side of the pilot when removing a large amount of material, soooo having a lathe and some casehardening ability I made my own pilots and eliminated the problem. All in all I really like my trimmer and I guess there is always going to be some features good and bad in any piece of equipment. Keep up the good work with these instruction videos. I'm sure they help anyone make an informed decision on purchasing equipment for their reloading experience, new and old-timer reloaders alike... 👍👍
Love mine. Have to measure only to specs then trim to length. Then chamfer ID and OD. 1 issue I have is getting replacement set screws. Over time the Allen wrench won't tighten.
Yes! Of course. Perhaps I should have demonstrated that in the video. Measure the rifle cases after firing, de-capping, and resizing. If they're too long, trim them to the appropriate size.
I use a combination of this Lyman case trimmer and a few of the Lee cartridges specific trimmers from my broke days. Trimming 300 WBY Mag, 6.5 Grendel, 243 Win, 5.45x39, and so on and so forth.
Great piece of gear, I mounted mine on a bamboo serving tray, great for trimming while watching a show. The drill attachment makes high volume runs a breeze!
I love it when I get a case trimmer highlighted by 90's studio metal rock riffs...🙄 Guy is way too calm to be confused with Ozzy though. Thankfully. If he eats the head off a bat, I will be staying away for awhile. If he eats the head off a squirrel, I'll be back tomorrow......
I have been using the Lyman EZee trim case trimmer and have decided that trimming by hand like that is overrated. I am trimming 223, 243, 270, 30.06, 300 Hamr, and 308.
Bought one of these used off of flebay for cheap, it has 1997 stamped on the bottom. Machined a new bronze bushing for a close fit and some pilots, even with a dull cutter, it cuts square and dead nuts length. Going to get the carbide cutter I think.
He incorrectly identified the knurled adjustment stop collars. The larger collar, closest to the trimmer is the fine adjustment. The smaller collar, closer to the handle, is the coarse adjust. Here are directions from the users manual: Two knurled adjustment rings, located on the cutter shaft. provide for both fine and coarse adjustments. Before making any adjustments, hold the large ring with your finger and turn the small ring counterclockwise, four full turns. This will leave about 3/32" space between the rings and allow room for fine adjustment. Make certain the cutter face is still positioned against the case mouth and slide the adjustment rings in tight against the side of the base casting. Tighten the lock screws in the small ring. Later models have a series of indicators each representing .001 inch of travel on the shaft. Used as reference marks, they enable the user to return to an approximate setting for various cases without time consuming trial and error testing.
Thinking of buying one, I was wondering if you can trim 303 British cases with the pilot who comes with the trimmer or I have to buy one ( 303 pilot) Great review by the way, love the video
bought one, got 100 cases of 300 win mag through with little problem, then the cutter began flatting the cases a real work out to try and trim, trapped the pilot, having to tubing cutter the case to get the pilot out. emailed lyman no sensible answer if needing a new blade every 100 or something wrong with the cutter sent. wanted receipt, my period of starting receipt had been discarded. if wanted to replace the cutter because defective the receipt shouldnt had been a question. example moen facets my home 25 years , not once had they asked me for the receipt, they are built for looks built for life, they send new cartridge. well to end never again use lyman, never again call them, pretty crappy if the cutter supplied to do a 1000 by hand and only did 100. frankfort arsenal has been purchased and will see. in the mean time other issues have been reported with this hand trimmer, i did order 3 carbides and the power shaft , not throwing it away but no more to use their products any. just my .02
Trimming cases without a single measurement? Also no testing for accuracy and variation of trimmed lenght. And shaving a tiniest bit of soft brass took several rotations of the blade. No offence meant but if you do pure product advertising for Lyman, please do say so.
on the adjustment wheel, I see there are notches cut into it. How do these read? eg. each hash mark will remove a thousands of an inch?? Could you please explain. Thank you!
Depends on a lot of factors. If you are reloading rifle brass and you don't have a trimmer stop reloading until you get one. Trimmers are not optional when it comes to bottleneck brass. They are absolutely necessary.
Ya, with some low pressure straight cases, you may never need to trim. This has been my experience with 38 Special and 45 ACP cases. However, with high pressure bottle neck rifle cases... You're likely to need to trim after only a few firing/reloading cycles. Some cases stretch more than others. Be careful. Measure the size of your cases after firing and resizing and see if they are above the "trim to" lengths specified in the manuals.
It would be nice to see how the fine , and course adjustments work, and how about measuring the length, and then adjusting the trimmer..not a great vid
I was going to buy one but not now. As it only locates on the primer pocket and not the back of the case for constant length. You also don't show how much the length changes per turn on the fine adjustment. Sorry but some people need to be shown this. I will go with the Wilson gear for the extra money.
The cutter looks like it has a lot of runout. When I was researching trimmers I ended up settling on the L.E. Wilson. It was expensive but it does a fantastic job. Very precisely made.
Yes, mine did as well. Also when you tighten down the case holder it torques the case off center and therefore cuts the case mouth on an angle. Very apparent when shaving small amount as it will leave a portion of the case mouth untouched.
One of the reasons I chose the Lyman Deluxe kit was because they were the only one that included this case trimmer as part of the package. When I began trimming my brass, I made a couple master cases from each cartridge I load that measured exact book minimums to make adjustments quick from one cartridge to another. I mounted mine to a piece of plywood with enough material on either end to C-clamp it to a table. I currently use the T-Mag II press that came with the kit, but going to upgrade to that big honkin' Lyman Brass Smith turret press when I move in a year or so. Right now I'm only loading for .30-06, .25-06, .223 & .45 Colt (30k-32k psi). Starting to tool-up for 6.5 CM.
Where the F is your measuring step in that process????. You make it look like getting the right length is just magic. You do everyone a disservice by vomiting that step.
I hate to be the outlier here, but I absolutely hate mine. I've had it for years, and every time I look at it and know that I need to use it I dread it. My pilots are all a little oversized, and they get jammed in the necks. . I have to use so much force pulling the arbor out, that the oil light/ bronze bushing comes out of the cast aluminum frame. I have to beat the bronze bushing back in and then readjust the cutter length. I only use it on straight wall brass now as I have a different method of trimming bottleneck cartridges. Maybe I have a bad one, but I try to do everything I can not to use it
nope your absolutely right, for the bushing getting knocked out add a washer behing the cutter head, washer slams the frame then not bushing, the idots designing the stupid thing , wow i would surely improve this thing and take off the shelf till its corrected. the cutter head is like looking in your trunk for a spare and finding a can if fix a flat
For those who simply cannot figure out how to adjust this tool.... There are pretty good instructions in the orange booklet that came with it. Starts on page 34 in the copy I have.
For many years I used the Lyman case trimmer, I will say, it's better than nothing, but it's a pain in the butt to trim cases accurately, the waste can it went after buying LE Wilson's case trimmer reviewed Ultimate Reloader show some years ago - by far a much better machine.
I started off with a Forester trimmer, didn't care much for the way the case was held, The Lyman is similar and a much better system BUT for half the money you can own a Frankford Arsenal Universal Precision Power Case Trimmer. For HALF the cost of the Lyman you get a powered case trimmer run by your battery drill and talk about accurate, my cases measure less than .001" in variance (couldn't say that about the Forester) and you don't need to buy any neck pilots. Everything is there to trim almost any brass you have as long as you have necked brass. I turned my old Forester into a neck turner and never looked back. I usually enjoy these new product video's but this time IMHO you missed the mark but to each his own.
I've got that trimmer...great unit. However...spend the extra money and buy the carbide cutter as the HHS cutter can dull rather fast. I switched to carbide cutter and haven't looked back
I started with Lee Case trimmers and have graduated to the Worlds Finest Trimmers and a drill press. For my ODD BALL wildcat (.357 AR-Max) I use the same drill press with the Frankford Arsenal Universal Trimmer.
Had one for a while for my personal use and it single handedly convinced me to buy the henderson trimmer.. the lyman is as accurate as a blind hooker corn hole ing (don't ask).. made 1k a reasonable choice.. enjoy 😉
Morning from north of you sir, good to see you again. While I started out with a Lee setup, they all went to a family member who was starting handloading and I've got an RCBS hand trimmer that looks much like the Lyman except the Lyman chuck looks much easier to use. I've run mine by hand and with a drill if there's lots to do. Don't forget to give the bearing surfaces some lube too folks. All the best to you this weekend sir.
I have this trimmer and it works pretty good except there is a very small defect with the spindle…sort of a high spot…it doesn’t slide in and out smoothly. I still prefer the Lee Quick Trim die…much faster, just as accurate, plus it chamfers inside and outside the case mouth simultaneously, but not great for removing a lot of material. Lyman trimmer now is used mostly for trimming the 1mm off 9mm Luger brass to 9mm Makarov length.
Guy.. Great video! I use the trim pro 2 power trimmer.. I love it.. no palm wear.. very fast for volume trimming. I'm doing all the '06/308 based stuff 243 25-06 308 and '06.. I also size and decap prior to trimming, although there isn't a primer pocket ball in the rcbs universal holder. hand dechamfer, and its off to the steel pins/dawn/lemishine then dry in meat dehydrator.. then to the dillion.. very nice system.
I have one and use it for low count calibers I reload where I dont want to buy/make a chamber for the Giraud. Its fast enough and accurate enough to get the job done for a reasonable price.
I found the Lee Quick Trim a better system as it does not require a different piece of equipment. You use the press you have and just a die set up. Tip: I got an old Lyman powered trimmer at an auction and Lyman confirmed the new pilot's will fit this old trimmer.
My favorite piece of machinery on my bench..... I even got the Lyman neck case turner for it. I bought a Forster 3-n1 trimmer and bore it out to fit on the shaft.... Now I can get a whole lot cases done in no time...... 1 step does 3 steps.
The first time I tried reloading it was for my 308 I realized they wouldn't chamber. I could tell by looking at them that the once fired cases were just too long. So I got a lee trimmer widget. It's kind of a pain but it seems to work. Is it unusual to need to trim every time? These were once fired factory loads shot from my rifle.
I have an RCBS that is very similar except it has a tension lever to release the brass. Mostly trimming mixed revolver brass once so i get even crimps. Bought it for getting into rifle reloading though just starting in that process.
I like this one better than the Hornady… I had to send mine to them due to some issues with the ram holding the case not going back into the frame… it also gets gummed up quickly and frequently had to clean it… I currently use an electric Lyman Case Trimmer Xpress and it’s very easy and an awesome trimmer to use
I prefer the RCBS one that is similar. The case locking mechanism is just a handle you push down and has all the shell plates. They also have the Trim Pro cutters that trim to length and chamfer the inside and outside of the case. I bought a second shaft and adjustment thimble so can easily swap between 2 cases very quickly.
I have the Lyman power trimmer, still trying to get the adapter for 7.62x39, and love it for its speed and accuracy. Its also very easy to set up for case length. Its only draw back it lack of straight wall cartridge support. I'm currently trimming 223, 308 & 6.5cm.
I got my back in the mid 80's and the pilots was a little over size . I sand them to fit . No problem after. I had it later set up to use a hand drill .
I have that same trimmer and have used it for over 30 years. I have made the missing pilots out of broken drill shanks. Chucked the arbor in the lathe and drilled the center out and threaded for a drill pilot when doing mass trimming on the 222 and 223. Put the handle back on for the larger calibers. Excellent piece of gear.
I meant to comment on this a week ago, but then forgot. Go ahead and get the carbide cutter for it. The standard one that ships with the trimmer starts to get dull in the 600 to 700 case range.
The Lyman Trimmers are rugged reliable tools that do exactly what they were designed to do and do it well at affordable prices for the common man . My only wish was that they designed them with the option to use portable hand drills . I know that they have an electric trimmer but I would be nice if their lathe type trimmer had an option to use with drills .
good overview, did i miss the part where he magically got to the correct length? 2 more minutes on this video would be super helpful to see how he got he correct length with his calipers.
he didn't he's trimming arbitrarily
easiest way is to get a case that's the right length, then butt it up to that one and you get close...and then can tweak the fine adjust if needed.
“I like to cut my .308 brass to 2.000 even”
*proceeds to trim off an unknown amount of material*
I was wondering about that too. I have a piece of trimmed brass that is only used for setting up the trimmer length for cases.
How to adjust?
Increments?
Markers?
Consistency?
Square mouth?
17cal?
20 cal?
This video fails to demo the adjustment part. I use a Frankford Arsenal 4 station case prep center with a Lee threaded cutter and lock stud. I buy a $7 case length gauge and shell holder for each cartridge and there’s no measuring or adjusting. Just trimming.
Agreed. How are we supposed to know how much material we are removing? He even said “I like to cut my .308 case to 2.000 even”…
*proceeds to randomly trim some arbitrary amount*
I'll second the reply. Setup is simple but what many people would like to know is how exactly do you set the trim length.
I own and have used it for years, bring the course to zero then back it off 1.5 turns then use the fine adjustment to remove a little at a time. Check with either a mike or calipers, the nice part is once you adjust it to where you want just start cutting and swap one after another. If it's the same type brass problem
Can you please elaborate on how you are doing this? Are you modifying the frankford trimmer by replacing it with the lee cutter?
I have the case prep center, 4 threaded, motorized positions with no trimmer. I screw the Lee threaded trimmer into one position, then a primer cleaner, chamfer, and debur tool. Prep each case in probably 10-20 seconds.
Watching the video how did you determine how much needed trimmed?
He didn't. He's literally just winging it. Frustrating that you UA-cam how to do this and the first thing that pops up is him.
Guy, how are the course and fine adjustment knobs used? This overview video seemed a bit incomplete.
Do over
At 3:25 You say to go ahead and tighten down the coarse and fine adjustment wheels. I must have missed the part where you explain what you doing when you tighten those in the first place. I thought the idea behind trimming was to get the case down to a specific and predictable length.
Bought one. I use it all the time. Once you get the proper case length set, you can crank cases out accurately and quickly. I even bought the power drill attachment to make it quicker to trim lots of cases. Best reloading purchase I ever made.
and not having to hold onto brass with a death-grip in your fingers makes a WORLD of difference. I was starting to hate brass prep to the point I didn't even want to do it. This has helped with that.
I used one with a cheap cordless screwdriver for years. You sneak up on the “trim to length”. As others said, saving a trimmed case with your dies as a setup tool works well.
I picked one up about a year ago and i love it. I trim everything with it. I had surgery on my wrist in-between... so i got the drill adapter for it. I aint going quietly.
I have used that model for twenty five years. Like many of the commentors have mentioned, I purchased the ¼" hex shank cutting bar for cordless screwdriver powered operation. I wore an egg-shaped hole in the bronze oil bushing that the cutter bar slides/turns in. Sent it back to Lyman and they pressed a new bronze bushing in it, and didnt sent me any bill. I screwed it up by using too of a large cordless drill/driver that was too heavy, and wallered out the bushing hole. I now power it with a Ryobi 4 Volt dinky sized drill/driver, that doesnt run faster than 300-400 RPM. Lyman makes good stuff.
Interesting. I figured that Lyman would stand behind their product.
Sadly this didn't show how you set it for a certain length, which is the whole point of case trimming. How did you choose the depth? There isn't even a micrometer on the bench.
I have this and my experience is not good at all. It will not hold a setting no matter what is done. Haven't used it in years and will actually never use it again.
I don't see any measuring system or gauge. Looks to me like a guess on length. I wouldn't use this personally.
You said to let you know about my opinion, so I hope you’re not ignoring me there bro, I just wanted to say a most excellent video once again very informative, and spot on with those lineman product, reloading is an essential skill for anybody into fire arms, it is vitally important,
Because with the world the way it is today it is all the more important that we can reload, and even make brass and gunpowder, I had thought I subscribe to you before, but when I went to this UA-cam I see I had not, or maybe I had and something happened, anyway I’ve re-subscribed and giving y’all a like excellent work !
That trimmer is very similar to the RCBS case trimmer 2 that I have been using for the past 20 years... the only plus I can see with the RCBS, is that I have several three way cutter heads for it. Trim, inside and outside chanfer in one operation. Kind of slick that way. Regardless, fantastic review as always, and please continue the great content!
To the best of my knowledge, the threads on the cutterhead are the same. So you could put the RCBS cutter on this unit. I think that would be optimal because I like the way this one holds the cases a little better. Might want to double-check this, but I'm almost positive that the cutter heads are interchangeable.
So no need for a caliper to check OAL?
When you say "take just a little bit off..." are you eyeballing it and then measuring it or do you set it to trim this .308 brass to 2" and regardless of the length of this brass it will end up at that length?
You do have to measure and adjust at first.
It has fine-adjustments so once you get a piece of brass that's the right length and tighten things to that piece, you are done measuring other than confirming from time to time.
Franklin Arsenal, case trim prep Center
I have 1..There the best in my opinion
Still using the Lee case trimming guides for 7.5x55, .308, 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, and 9x19mm, just because the Lee pilots were set to length from the case primer hole.
I only reload for one caliber so, I hooked mine up to a drill!
Great video. I've had this trimmer for more than 40 years and it has served me very well. I have had to replace the bronze bushing on the trimmer shaft because of wear, but not really a big deal. One big improvement for me was the carbide cutter. It cuts faster and smoother than the tool steel cutter that comes with the trimmer, a little pricy but worth the money. My trimmer didn't come with any pilots, so I did purchase some and found that they are not machined with a square shoulder on the back side which allows the brass to fold around the back side of the pilot when removing a large amount of material, soooo having a lathe and some casehardening ability I made my own pilots and eliminated the problem. All in all I really like my trimmer and I guess there is always going to be some features good and bad in any piece of equipment. Keep up the good work with these instruction videos. I'm sure they help anyone make an informed decision on purchasing equipment for their reloading experience, new and old-timer reloaders alike... 👍👍
Love mine. Have to measure only to specs then trim to length. Then chamfer ID and OD. 1 issue I have is getting replacement set screws. Over time the Allen wrench won't tighten.
Love this case trimmer keep up the good work
ever measure ??
Yes! Of course. Perhaps I should have demonstrated that in the video. Measure the rifle cases after firing, de-capping, and resizing. If they're too long, trim them to the appropriate size.
I use a combination of this Lyman case trimmer and a few of the Lee cartridges specific trimmers from my broke days. Trimming 300 WBY Mag, 6.5 Grendel, 243 Win, 5.45x39, and so on and so forth.
Great piece of gear, I mounted mine on a bamboo serving tray, great for trimming while watching a show. The drill attachment makes high volume runs a breeze!
I love it when I get a case trimmer highlighted by 90's studio metal rock riffs...🙄 Guy is way too calm to be confused with Ozzy though. Thankfully. If he eats the head off a bat, I will be staying away for awhile. If he eats the head off a squirrel, I'll be back tomorrow......
I thought I was going crazy with him just magically changing the length and I missed something, thank god other people were also confused
I have been using the Lyman EZee trim case trimmer and have decided that trimming by hand like that is overrated. I am trimming 223, 243, 270, 30.06, 300 Hamr, and 308.
Bought one of these used off of flebay for cheap, it has 1997 stamped on the bottom.
Machined a new bronze bushing for a close fit and some pilots, even with a dull cutter, it cuts square and dead nuts length. Going to get the carbide cutter I think.
He incorrectly identified the knurled adjustment stop collars. The larger collar, closest to the trimmer is the fine adjustment. The smaller collar, closer to the handle, is the coarse adjust. Here are directions from the users manual:
Two knurled adjustment rings, located on the cutter shaft. provide for both fine and coarse adjustments. Before making any adjustments, hold the large ring with your finger and turn the small ring counterclockwise, four full turns. This will leave about 3/32" space between the rings and allow room for fine adjustment. Make certain the cutter face is still positioned against the case mouth and slide the adjustment rings in tight against the side of the base casting. Tighten the lock screws in the small ring. Later models have a series of indicators each representing .001 inch of travel on the shaft. Used as reference marks, they enable the user to return to an approximate setting for various cases without time consuming trial and error testing.
I've been " trying " to use the rcbs case trimmer witch is a peace of junk. I'm going to buy the lyman universal case trimmer.
Thinking of buying one, I was wondering if you can trim 303 British cases with the pilot who comes with the trimmer or I have to buy one ( 303 pilot)
Great review by the way, love the video
bought one, got 100 cases of 300 win mag through with little problem, then the cutter began flatting the cases a real work out to try and trim, trapped the pilot, having to tubing cutter the case to get the pilot out. emailed lyman no sensible answer if needing a new blade every 100 or something wrong with the cutter sent. wanted receipt, my period of starting receipt had been discarded. if wanted to replace the cutter because defective the receipt shouldnt had been a question. example moen facets my home 25 years , not once had they asked me for the receipt, they are built for looks built for life, they send new cartridge. well to end never again use lyman, never again call them, pretty crappy if the cutter supplied to do a 1000 by hand and only did 100. frankfort arsenal has been purchased and will see. in the mean time other issues have been reported with this hand trimmer, i did order 3 carbides and the power shaft , not throwing it away but no more to use their products any. just my .02
Trimming cases without a single measurement? Also no testing for accuracy and variation of trimmed lenght. And shaving a tiniest bit of soft brass took several rotations of the blade. No offence meant but if you do pure product advertising for Lyman, please do say so.
on the adjustment wheel, I see there are notches cut into it. How do these read? eg. each hash mark will remove a thousands of an inch?? Could you please explain. Thank you!
How many times can you reload same brass before you have to start trimming it
Depends on a lot of factors. If you are reloading rifle brass and you don't have a trimmer stop reloading until you get one. Trimmers are not optional when it comes to bottleneck brass. They are absolutely necessary.
Ya, with some low pressure straight cases, you may never need to trim. This has been my experience with 38 Special and 45 ACP cases. However, with high pressure bottle neck rifle cases... You're likely to need to trim after only a few firing/reloading cycles. Some cases stretch more than others. Be careful. Measure the size of your cases after firing and resizing and see if they are above the "trim to" lengths specified in the manuals.
Terrible video! You will learn nothing unless you just wanted to watch someone do something they know how to do.
It would be nice to see how the fine , and course adjustments work, and how about measuring the length, and then adjusting the trimmer..not a great vid
Just bought one of these to replace an RCBS trimmer. I opted for the carbide cutter, hopefully it lasts longer than the high speed cutter.
Did not explain the use of the adjustment rings very well, assume I know little to nothing about case trimming.
I was going to buy one but not now. As it only locates on the primer pocket and not the back of the case for constant length. You also don't show how much the length changes per turn on the fine adjustment. Sorry but some people need to be shown this. I will go with the Wilson gear for the extra money.
He didn’t show how to do the adjustment to determine tho much brass to be trimmed didn’t show in detail how to do the adjustments
Doesn’t include 26 for 6.5 creedmore yet you claim it includes the most popular ones. Funny.
Can you do neck turning on the outside and inside with interchangeable pieces sold separately
Hello, can you tell me what trimmer pilot number for a 300 BLK caliber ?
We’re is everyone getting there primers without spending crazy money just getting into reloading
Can we have a year later update on the kit? IE what did you switch out, what you kept, how much use it's gottten
Wow you don’t measure the cases. Amazing
The only trimmer I have ever used. Still going strong after 18 yrs. I had to buy a .25 pilot. My set didn’t go include it.
Great review and excellent camera work showing us what you were adjusting. Nicely done Sir.
Muy bien explicado, gracias.
Can it do 45 70 as well heard these universal trimmers can't do this cartridge
Is Lyman definitely as quality as the other name brands?
The cutter looks like it has a lot of runout. When I was researching trimmers I ended up settling on the L.E. Wilson. It was expensive but it does a fantastic job. Very precisely made.
Yes, mine did as well. Also when you tighten down the case holder it torques the case off center and therefore cuts the case mouth on an angle. Very apparent when shaving small amount as it will leave a portion of the case mouth untouched.
Got one too. Its great but I love my henderson trimmer
I quit using a Lyman in favor of Wilson as well.
What are the recommended power sources?
Hi! Can I trim 9.3 x 62 Mauser with this please?
One of the reasons I chose the Lyman Deluxe kit was because they were the only one that included this case trimmer as part of the package. When I began trimming my brass, I made a couple master cases from each cartridge I load that measured exact book minimums to make adjustments quick from one cartridge to another. I mounted mine to a piece of plywood with enough material on either end to C-clamp it to a table. I currently use the T-Mag II press that came with the kit, but going to upgrade to that big honkin' Lyman Brass Smith turret press when I move in a year or so. Right now I'm only loading for .30-06, .25-06, .223 & .45 Colt (30k-32k psi). Starting to tool-up for 6.5 CM.
I have one like this and they have an attachment for cordless drill which makes doing large batches much faster.
Sooooo,just take a little off? We dont measure the cases?
Have one of these myself but still learned some of the finest points here. I appreciate the video!
these videos have been indispensable in building my knowledge of reloading. thank you!
Thanks for the advice!
Where the F is your measuring step in that process????. You make it look like getting the right length is just magic.
You do everyone a disservice by vomiting that step.
Where are your manners? You risk coming across as a keyboard warrior.
I hate to be the outlier here, but I absolutely hate mine. I've had it for years, and every time I look at it and know that I need to use it I dread it. My pilots are all a little oversized, and they get jammed in the necks. . I have to use so much force pulling the arbor out, that the oil light/ bronze bushing comes out of the cast aluminum frame. I have to beat the bronze bushing back in and then readjust the cutter length. I only use it on straight wall brass now as I have a different method of trimming bottleneck cartridges. Maybe I have a bad one, but I try to do everything I can not to use it
nope your absolutely right, for the bushing getting knocked out add a washer behing the cutter head, washer slams the frame then not bushing, the idots designing the stupid thing , wow i would surely improve this thing and take off the shelf till its corrected. the cutter head is like looking in your trunk for a spare and finding a can if fix a flat
Which one for 6.5
For those who simply cannot figure out how to adjust this tool.... There are pretty good instructions in the orange booklet that came with it. Starts on page 34 in the copy I have.
Mines brand new and a piece of shit, it freakin doesn’t work for shit
where did you order it from?
Finally a quality case trimmer video. I was thinking of the Hornady cam lock and the RCBS. This Lyman is a winner. I;m buying one tomorrow.
For many years I used the Lyman case trimmer, I will say, it's better than nothing, but it's a pain in the butt to trim cases accurately, the waste can it went after buying LE Wilson's case trimmer reviewed Ultimate Reloader show some years ago - by far a much better machine.
I started off with a Forester trimmer, didn't care much for the way the case was held, The Lyman is similar and a much better system BUT for half the money you can own a Frankford Arsenal Universal Precision Power Case Trimmer. For HALF the cost of the Lyman you get a powered case trimmer run by your battery drill and talk about accurate, my cases measure less than .001" in variance (couldn't say that about the Forester) and you don't need to buy any neck pilots. Everything is there to trim almost any brass you have as long as you have necked brass. I turned my old Forester into a neck turner and never looked back. I usually enjoy these new product video's but this time IMHO you missed the mark but to each his own.
Its ok. I'd rather use my Frankford Arsenal than the Lyman..I since graduated to the Giraud.. That one makes it fast and easier
I've got that trimmer...great unit. However...spend the extra money and buy the carbide cutter as the HHS cutter can dull rather fast. I switched to carbide cutter and haven't looked back
I started with Lee Case trimmers and have graduated to the Worlds Finest Trimmers and a drill press. For my ODD BALL wildcat (.357 AR-Max) I use the same drill press with the Frankford Arsenal Universal Trimmer.
I put a 1" washer behind the trim head to hold a spring in place over the shaft to make abself progressing trimmer
Hello, I’m just curious, will the Lyman trimmer use their E-ZEE TRIM case trimming system? If it does this would be an ingenious way to go!
Had one for a while for my personal use and it single handedly convinced me to buy the henderson trimmer.. the lyman is as accurate as a blind hooker corn hole ing (don't ask).. made 1k a reasonable choice.. enjoy 😉
The Lyman trimmer is a descent trimmer but the cutting heads don't stay sharp very long.
Morning from north of you sir, good to see you again. While I started out with a Lee setup, they all went to a family member who was starting handloading and I've got an RCBS hand trimmer that looks much like the Lyman except the Lyman chuck looks much easier to use. I've run mine by hand and with a drill if there's lots to do. Don't forget to give the bearing surfaces some lube too folks. All the best to you this weekend sir.
I have this trimmer and it works pretty good except there is a very small defect with the spindle…sort of a high spot…it doesn’t slide in and out smoothly. I still prefer the Lee Quick Trim die…much faster, just as accurate, plus it chamfers inside and outside the case mouth simultaneously, but not great for removing a lot of material. Lyman trimmer now is used mostly for trimming the 1mm off 9mm Luger brass to 9mm Makarov length.
Guy.. Great video! I use the trim pro 2 power trimmer.. I love it.. no palm wear.. very fast for volume trimming. I'm doing all the '06/308 based stuff 243 25-06 308 and '06.. I also size and decap prior to trimming, although there isn't a primer pocket ball in the rcbs universal holder. hand dechamfer, and its off to the steel pins/dawn/lemishine then dry in meat dehydrator.. then to the dillion.. very nice system.
I have one and use it for low count calibers I reload where I dont want to buy/make a chamber for the Giraud.
Its fast enough and accurate enough to get the job done for a reasonable price.
I found the Lee Quick Trim a better system as it does not require a different piece of equipment. You use the press you have and just a die set up.
Tip: I got an old Lyman powered trimmer at an auction and Lyman confirmed the new pilot's will fit this old trimmer.
My favorite piece of machinery on my bench..... I even got the Lyman neck case turner for it. I bought a Forster 3-n1 trimmer and bore it out to fit on the shaft.... Now I can get a whole lot cases done in no time...... 1 step does 3 steps.
My father passed way in 1986. I still have and use his Universal Case Trimmer.
I’m buying one , Have a early 70’s RCBS . Gonna treat myself, great 👍. Videos ❤️❤️
Nice trimmer maybe one of the best i ever use. You should have to speak about extra pilots available, carbide head, drill adapter and ONT system.
The first time I tried reloading it was for my 308 I realized they wouldn't chamber. I could tell by looking at them that the once fired cases were just too long. So I got a lee trimmer widget. It's kind of a pain but it seems to work. Is it unusual to need to trim every time? These were once fired factory loads shot from my rifle.
Worst case trimmer ever. I use the Lee case trimmer on the Lyman case prep express. That's works and is repeatable.
I have an RCBS that is very similar except it has a tension lever to release the brass. Mostly trimming mixed revolver brass once so i get even crimps. Bought it for getting into rifle reloading though just starting in that process.
I like this one better than the Hornady… I had to send mine to them due to some issues with the ram holding the case not going back into the frame… it also gets gummed up quickly and frequently had to clean it… I currently use an electric Lyman Case Trimmer Xpress and it’s very easy and an awesome trimmer to use
I prefer the RCBS one that is similar. The case locking mechanism is just a handle you push down and has all the shell plates. They also have the Trim Pro cutters that trim to length and chamfer the inside and outside of the case. I bought a second shaft and adjustment thimble so can easily swap between 2 cases very quickly.
I have the Lyman power trimmer, still trying to get the adapter for 7.62x39, and love it for its speed and accuracy. Its also very easy to set up for case length. Its only draw back it lack of straight wall cartridge support. I'm currently trimming 223, 308 & 6.5cm.
I got my back in the mid 80's and the pilots was a little over size . I sand them to fit . No problem after. I had it later set up to use a hand drill .
I have that same trimmer and have used it for over 30 years. I have made the missing pilots out of broken drill shanks. Chucked the arbor in the lathe and drilled the center out and threaded for a drill pilot when doing mass trimming on the 222 and 223. Put the handle back on for the larger calibers. Excellent piece of gear.
Can you use the 223 pilot head work with a 22 Nosler or 224 Valkyrie?
I meant to comment on this a week ago, but then forgot. Go ahead and get the carbide cutter for it. The standard one that ships with the trimmer starts to get dull in the 600 to 700 case range.
your lucky mine 100 casings, did order the carbides to try soo and the power shaft adapter, hell on fingers after a 100
Good to know. Mine's been fine so far, but thinking if it's going to dull, then may as well go ahead and get that now. Thanks
The Lyman Trimmers are rugged reliable tools that do exactly what they were designed to do and do it well at affordable prices for the common man . My only wish was that they designed them with the option to use portable hand drills . I know that they have an electric trimmer but I would be nice if their lathe type trimmer had an option to use with drills .
I have this bad boy and I love it. The best combination of quality and price