I would go 1 A Trick of the Tail 2 Wind and Wuthering 3 Foxtrot 4 Selling England 5 And then there were three 6 Nursery Cryme 7 Abacab 8 Genesis 9 Invisible Touch 10 Duke
I would go with (top 4 or so change) 1. Wind & Wuthering (would have been all time favorite: take out Special Way for Please Don't Touch, than re sequence) 2. Selling England By The Pound 3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 4. A Trick Of The Tail 5. Foxtrot 6. Nursery Cryme 7. Trespass Big drop in quality for remainder 8. And Than There Were Three 9. Genesis (Shapes) 10. Invisible Touch
I bought my first Genesis album, Duke (on vinyl) after hearing "Turn It On Again" and "Misunderstanding" back in the day, went backwards and then forward.
Well, enjoy it, because it will change your life. I started listening to Genesis when I was 14 ( 'Mama', my first), I'm 51 now, a professional drummer and teacher, and still loving their music.
I’d advise anyone to watch the bataclan show from 1973 that’s recently been restored to 4k, it’s on UA-cam and it is fantastic, it’s the best restoration job I’ve ever seen on a Genesis vid.
My top 10: 1 - Selling England By The Pound 2 - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 3 - Foxtrot 4 - Nursery Cryme 5 - A Trick of the Tail 6 - Wind & Wuthering 7 - Trespasss 8 - Duke 9 - And Then There Were Three 10 - Genesis
Nah. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway ABACAB Selling England by the Pound ...And Then There Were Three... Duke Tresspass Genesis to Revelation A Trick of the Tail Wind & Wuthering Foxtrot Nursery Cryme Not a top 10, that's all I have so far.
2 days ago, I heard Steve Hackett preform Fountain of Salmacis live. Man. That was freaking epic. I've always loved that song, but hearing it live. Damn.
It's ok , definitely not as good as their previous work .. And it started to pull women in with " follow you " so it spoiled them on the idea of pop , the mentality of working less while getting more success, more money with easier work. That's why I hate that album , culturally.
I have a great love for 'And Then There Were Three'. For me something that characterises the album is that it's much better when you listen to it than you remember it being. I thought that was just me, but when the Tabletop Genesis podcast covered it, the same thing happened. In the introduction, they all professed to being lukewarm on the album but then in the track-by-track they each go crazy over virtually every song.
Ray Blake And then there were three "The lady lies" the album is awesome. You have to listen to it more than once. You climb upon a burning rope to escape the mob below. Duke is like # 2 for me, for personal reasons.
It's a great album, and it probably contained a glimpse into where they were heading more than any album around that time in their history. Personally my favorite is "Trick of the Tail", but outside of Invisible touch I love most of their stuff.
Actually Tony wrote the main chord progression on Hold On My Heart. And a great track it is. Totally wrong thinking Phil is the only one who moved to the more pop side.
@@kennethlund9825 You know what cements the fact Collins isnt a sell out? He wanted to do Suppers Ready to celebrate its 20th anniversary in 1992. Doubt his voice wouldve held up but they could've dropped the key....Banks and Rutherford voted him down. Heres the drummer wanting to play all that 9/8 stuff again....in the early 90s.
"Genesis never had a problem being accessible" That is why they are the greatest. They blend complexity with simplicity - they write ROCK SONGS. BUT COOLER!
*Genesis never had a problem being accessible* You are saying this talking about From Genesis to Revelation - everybody was playing accessible music in the 60s (Pink Floyd). You are also saying about the same album that the typical elements for the band’s music (odd time signatures, etc) _are gone._ Those elements were not there _yet._ They were to be incorporated into their music … later. I am watching your body language too. After seeing your ranking of the Gentle Giant albums (and others) I can say that I have never seen this much hands on hips and hands crossed over chest…
I have always liked all of the genesis erears. Genesis first and foremost were song writers. People forget that by about 1980 prog rock was dead. They managed to turn things around to make more simple songs and that proves how clever they were. As terrible as it may seem to some but I think invisible touch is right up there with foxtrot sorry
@ron schraper Agreed, to an extent. Were tracks like "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging," "Hairless Heart," and "Ravine" really needed? I do dig "Riding the Scree," though.
Honestly, in spite of its rather uniform sound, I still find _Calling All Stations_ more interesting than a lot of their '80s albums. Maybe because there's no attempt at an overt commercial hit on it. And, it must be said, Ray Wilson does sound a bit like a young Peter Gabriel.
Curious but Selling England by the pound was my first Genesis album. I didn´t like it at first time. I got back when Phil assumed the vocals and I liked it. Then I got back to Selling England and I loved it so much I bought all Genesis records with Peter on vocals. Since then, I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan and, for me, Selling... is the best Genesis album so far.
A very balanced view from someone who obviously experienced the band as a young man in a highly changed musical environment. It must be a testament to the timeless nature of their music. The reality is you still returned to the roots of their development and the true genius of those early albums. I fell in love with 'SELLING..." probably 20 years before you did - amazing!
@@cristauxfeur2560 well, you must say bad choices. But this guy haven't idea when put the comparisions in between albums. It's a good boy with a poor musical ideas.
I love abacab calling all stations that a all-time worse this guy I do not know his music and I would not take any of his advice it's him and another guy that don't have good taste in music at all
Even "Robbery Assault & Battery" which is imo the least good of the album is still a really fun track to listen to and has its own moment of musical brilliance being the 1m30 instrumental bridge
While robbery, assault and battery is really cool, the keyboard solo is annoying and redundant. It's the one let down moment for me considering how much I adore Tony Banks's playing and writing
Metalosis Maligna, it was the first change for the band and didn’t really ring any big bells !! Failed to sell, no one like it ..munch. Couple of goods on it.
Michael Fiordimondo, why are comparing album nr 10’years later in a massively change band, trespass to Duke? R u kidding? Did you miss Genesis in between ? I presume you haven’t heard “a trick of the tail !?” You might as well said trespass and calling all stations for such a extreme different & diverse Period of the band’s output ! V strange...
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 Only half a album. Only like 7 songs and hate the other 5 completely. Abacab is even worse only like two songs Abacab and Dodo and simply hate the rest.
@@frankmachin5438 a buddy and I went to see the 07 reunion concert, I kept teasing him that i was disappointed they didn't do Who dunnit...lol, that song pisses him off!
Personally its my favorite of their 80s albums. I love how fuzzy, hard, and direct the sound is with the synths and drumming. The songs, excluding Who Dunnit?, are all good to great. Dodo is one of my favorites because of how shamelessly weird and synthy it is.
Wind and Wuthering is a masterpiece and One for the vine together with Eleventh Earl of Mar is about as far you can get from straight forward rock. For me number one!!
Never forget camping out with a friend in 77 16yrs old, at midnight they had the album hour ( god I miss old FM radio) and Eleventh Earl of Mar filled the woods. First listen and it was like wow, our stoned asses soaked up the whole record.
Harold Burrows The only time I wish I was older is when I read or hear stories like yours. I ”discovered” Genesis when I was 16 in 1980. I heard Dancing on the Moonlit Knight on the radio and I immediately was in love with their music. I didn’t even bother to buy their new album ”Duke” which was released that year (a good album I think now, but not then). I did buy all the other albums though after a hard struggle for money🤣. My favourite then was Selling England... Now it’s as I wrote Wind and Wuthering. I wish I was 16 in 1971. Then I would have the possibility to see them on tour with classical set up. I would then be 66 today...as if 56 is not bad enough🤣.
Let's face it the 70s Genesis and the 80s Genesis are just two totally different bands playing a totally different type of music. It happens, it's a shame and I feel exactly the same way about Queen after about 1977/78. Best just to enjoy the Genesis you like best (70s for me) and treat the other stuff as something else.
that's true, they are quite different. I think I just much prefer Collins' voice over Gabriel's. A Trick of The Tail and Wind and Wuthering are my favorite albums, regardless of them being 70's albums. I even prefer Invisible Touch to the Gabriel era albums, with Firth of Fifth and Carpet Crawlers songs being rare exceptions.
In my mind, The Lamb was the most "Gabrielesque" album that Genesis ever produced -- and that's enough reason to put it solidly on top of any ranking of this band. Banks is the other bona fide genius that came from this group, but I do believe that The Lamb made him very uncomfortable about Gabriel's place in the band ... and, ultimately, that's why Peter decided to do his own thing. To this day, you can research comments from Banks that attack certain Gabriel era work as being "too wordy," which supports my point about the friction between Peter and Tony. In the end, however, it's really too bad that the lineup of Banks, Collins, Gabriel, Hackett and Rutherford didn't grace the world with more timeless treasure.
Particularly as the recording process became much more advanced. To hear them recording that type of material in today's recording environment (or even the environment of the 80's) would be amazing. The 80's killed prog in a pretty drastic way, though.
Have a look here on YT at the 2007 Reissues interviews for Selling England . . -- you'll find that the way they did things sometimes didn't leave (for some) enough space in the music (see Phil discussing Epping Forest). As for Tony and Peter, they are still great friends, which is why Peter was the one to present Tony with his Prog God Award from PROG magazine (also to be found on YT).
@@CLGMusicMedia You make a very good point about the 80s and its effect on real progressive rock. There are many musicians who made their bones in the 70s, in fact, that have gone on record as saying that the 80s is when experimentation was slowly phased out of the business. Why? Because there were many musicians involved with producing music in the 70s ... and, sadly for all of us, they were replaced by more "business minded" executives in the post-70s era.
I'd say it had more to do with the changing musical climate of the times. They always threw a bone to their long time fans but not enough to be pure prog of course.
I think "SILVER RAINBOW" is one of the most FORGETTABLE songs by Genesis, ever. NO HOOKS. NO NOTHING. There's something he's not telling us, like he lost his virginity to that song. (I LOVE Cheesy-Pop Genesis, almost as much as I love art-rock Genesis... and a lot of their later stuff (and mid and first lp) LACKS HOOKS. Silver Rainbow's got nothing! ABACAB has some irresistible pop on there.)
He’s a blithering idiot who can’t even pronounce song and album titles properly, wind and weathering lol, fountain of salamatics, Harold the barrold, really haha
The fact that this gentleman loves "The Brazilian" and "Dreaming While You Sleep" baffle me. For me, they are two of the "filler-est" tracks on any Genesis release. Tony's parallel 5ths in those tunes (also prevalent in "Dividing Line" and first over-used in the instrumental section outro of "Abacab") are just *ugh* for me. It's like he's either trying to be "rockin'" or "funky"...and it's neither...and "Cul de Sac" as a snooze fest? It's a fantastic composition.
Cul de Sac is a progressive masterpiece, just ignore this guy because he can’t even pronounce the album and song titles properly ffs. Harold the barold and fountain of salamatics, wind and weathering are just a few of his bulbous blunderings.
Thank you! I couldn't separate anything from Nursery Cryme to Wind & Wuthering as they're all masterpieces for me, each with their own distinctive character. I realise you're only doing studio albums, but I'd have to put Seconds Out in there as a phenomenal live album, especially as we get to hear Collins take on all the Gabriel era epics so brilliantly, and of course we have Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford in the lineup as well.
Tractor Countdown Agreed. Have to pick foxtrot at top because of watcher and supper. 500 yrs from now people will still listen to these songs. Unless the commies take over.
No Reply At All, Man on the Corner, Keep it Dark? I'd honestly list those among the worst songs Genesis ever created. Compare those to Musical Box, Watcher of the Skies, Can-utility and the Coastliners.
The first time I've listened to Genesis was with the Invisible Touch live concert at Wembley, I've got Hooked. Then my cousin offered me We can't dance in Vinyl, not my favorite by then. I didn't know about Peter Gabriel era (only after the internet era started), when I discovered it was love at first sight. I bought all the CD's studio/live remasters and the two Archives.
...so...all ballads are "snoozefests"? Sorry, the chord changes in most of them ("your own special way", e.g.) are fantastic, as are the lyrics. You have to pay attention, though.
You'll need your stomach pumped if you add every time he refers to a song as "guy." I get it...he saw Hackett mention that they used "guy" for music phrases
I agree completely. There are songs I like on every single Genesis album, but "The Lamia" is my personal favorite track. I've covered it and performed it dozens of times.
I finally found a reviewer that talks about prog bands and talk about one of my favourite bands in this video I agreed with most of things you said well done dude you earned a sub! 😃
It WAS terrible sounding pre 1992 before the first remastered CD's came out from Europe. But when it was remastered after that, it is a decent sounding recording now, it's like a vale has been lifted off the recording, if you haven't checked it out lately, you should be pleasantly surprised, really. The ABC released CD sounds bad, don't get that version. The go to version at least for CD are: 1992 Europe definitive edition or the Rhino/Virgin 2006 or so versions.
Duke could easily replace Trespass, and somehow Nursery Crime was produced so poorly (worse than Trespass), as much as I want to hear those songs, it hurts my sensibilities. Leave them both off.
@@kevinrombouts3027 any album where Peter and Phil don't have as much input lol I don't think Tony is held to the fire for chasing Peter away as much as he shoukd be.
BORING : 15. Calling All Stations 14. From Genesis To Revelation __________ FAIR : 13. We Can't Dance __________ NICE : 12. Invisible Touch 11. And Them They Were Three __________ EXCELLENT : 10. Abacab 9. Trespass 8. Genesis 7. Duke __________ EPIC : 6. Nursery Cryme 5. Selling England By The Pound 4. Foxtrot __________ LEGENDARIES : 3. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 2. Wind And Wuthering 1. A Trick Of The Tail
BORING: 15. Calling All Stations 14. From Genesis To Revelation FAIR: 13. And Then There Were Three 12. Abacab NICE: 11.We Can't Dance 10. Invisible Touch EXCELLENT: 9. Trespass 8. Genesis 7. Duke EPIC: 6. Foxtrot 5. A Trick of the Tail 4. Wind and Wuthering LEGENDARIES: 3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 2. Nursery Cryme 1.Selling England By The Pound
totally agree with a Trick of Tail. It´s my favorite Genesis Album. it´s so powerfull, so complex and yet so acessible (wait, the title track isn´t it, but you got it).
The first time i saw Genesis in concert was 1987. I do wish that I had seen them in the seventies, which is what I think is their best era. I cut my teeth on Genesis by listening to Seconds Out, so the live sound will always hold a place in my heart.
I love Abacab. The title track is catchy. Me and Sarah Jane keeps changing/to the climactic end. Dodo/Lurker were concert staples. Man on the Corner is a catchy ballad with a message. No Reply At All has some of Mike's best bass. I wasn't crazy about the last two tracks, but I wouldn't call this their worst!
I grew up with Genesis in the 70's. I bought their albums religiously and knew every song, every lyric like the back of my hand. I played them every day after school and my younger brother was also as mega-fanboy as myself and had his playing in his room, too. We drove our poor parents mental with two blasts of Genesis reverberating down the stairs. Our Mum would stand in the hall and ring a bell, shouting "Supper's Ready!" for us to come down for dinner. Quite how they put up with it I'll never know. This reviewer, whilst enthusiastic, really doesn't fully appreciate the transition from album to album. At the time when these albums were released the amount of time my friends and I spent trying to work out the meanings entwined into the lyrics was quite excessive, at least borderline obsessive. It was certainly helped because we did Latin, and so were familiar with Greek mythology and Ovid's Metamorphoses and all that. Not so easy with The Battle Of Epping Forest, as the contents of that were somewhat too mature for us mere schoolboys. It was only later that I was able to fully understand what went on there and it remains to this day an absolute favourite. Suffice to say the "Reverend" was not a man of the cloth... and if anyone ever worked out what was meant by a "Staffordshire Plate", well, well done you. I'll say no more for not spoiling anyone's fun of discovering for themselves. When Gabriel left it was beyond shocking. However, upon hearing A Trick Of The Tail for the first time, it's opener Dance On A Volcano - good grief, it was unbelievably great. And Genesis live during that period with Bill Bruford. Fantastic. I attended a number of Genesis concerts over the years. On the Abacab tour I was at their Berlin show and was leaning onto the edge of the centre of the stage. Phil Collins was standing singing right in front of me. Nobody can tell me these Abacab songs were not fantastic when performed live. The sound coming off that stage and the energy and brilliance of the band all playing was something else entirely. I simply don't have a "list" of Genesis albums. You just don't do lists for such a brilliant band. Each of their albums inhabits its own space and competes with nothing but the listeners attention. Interestingly, Tony Banks thinks Silver Rainbow (written by Genesis - all three of them) is easily one of the least inspiring songs that Genesis recorded. Each to his own as they say. But I still like to hear others opinions and this was one of them.
Wind and Weathering deserves to at least be on the list. At most, among my favorite 5. I think their last gasp at British flavored material (Blood on the Rooftops), with prog jams (11th Earl of Mar/All In a Mouses Night?) their last epic samplings (One for the Vine/Unquiet Slumber For the Sleepers-In That Quiet Earth). I think it's their most grossly underrated album.
Nice one mate for putting A Trick at number 2 in your selection. It's my personal favourite. Every single track is top notch and the drumming and keyboard playing are exceptional as well as Phil Collins doing the best Peter Gabriel tribute vocal you are ever likely to hear. It's also the one album that the Gabrielite faction would love to hate but can't because it is soooo good!!!
As I've discovered Genesis in the past year, my number one has continually changed. It all began with A Trick. I agree ENTIRELY that there exists NO duds on that one. Every song is brilliant. Entangled and Ripples are just some of the most beautiful compositions I've ever heard in my life...life changing. Next, I decided to give Wind a listen. I didn't really get it at first. It was just enough of a contrast from Trick that it threw me off. What a surprise I was in for... I believe it was the bridge on Eleventh Earl of Mar that let me know just how amazing the rest of the record was going to be. Blood On the Rooftops is a massive standout for me. Same thing happened with ATTWT. Just didn't get it at first. But, I fell in love with it very quickly. Undertow is a song that really helped heal me. Then came Duke. Fell in love with it, especially Heathaze. Dear God how can more mortals compose songs that beautiful? Now one year on, in the past month I started to get into Gabriel Genesis despite some unfounded aversion to doing so previously. I was irritated with myself for not discovering it sooner. For not listening to those who professed the awesomeness of the Gabriel era. I started with SEBTP. What brilliance. Then came an album that has quite categorically changed my life. The way I see life, in fact. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway has got to be the greatest concept album of our time. The Lamia. The Carpet Crawlers. Hell, of course, the whole record. It is my favorite record ever. Bar none.
Decades ago I was in a band and we had this young guy on guitar, he was into Metallica and that ilk. We were doing Rock and Roll stuff, Springsteen, Melloncamp et al. I loaned him Lamb lies down saying, this is where you need to be going? He left the band a few months later and started writing original Prog rock...
I can totally understand why people don't like Abacab but i really like it because i can relate to what they were trying to do. It's a really abstract version of Genesis as a whole, sitting in between pop and prog but without any concept of structure whatsoever. In its own way, it's very proggy because it's so abstract. That hurt its reputation because there are very few moments one can latch on to when diggesting this record. But i admire that apporach and i think they succeeded for the most part. It's not among their strongest work but i feel it's way better than anything that came after. And to be honest, Who Dunnit is one of the reasons i like Abacab: it's very much its own silly abstract thing.
The biggest problem with their '80s/'90s albums: too many drum machines and generic synthesizers. It all just gives everything a more synthetic sound. : /
Tony Banks, in my opinion is a genius. And he likes very much Who Dunnit? Since A Trick of The Tail we can learned who were the composers of the songs. People thinked that Peter Gabriel was the Ian Anderson of Genesis making all music and lyrics.
Bought "Selling England by the Pound" beginning eighties. Masterpiece!! listned to it a million times or more....Thought there couldn't be any album better then this... so I am now ready (after almost 40 years) for probably their next brilliant album. Any suggestions?
My list, from worst to best: 15. From Genesis to Revolution: A completely different sound and style from the band that I never really got into. Sounds more Bee Gees than prog rock. 14. Calling All Stations: Ray Wilson is a good singer, but with Collins gone and only two classic members left, it doesn't sound like Genesis. Not surprised this was the last one. 13. Invisible Touch: Domino is cool, The Brazilian is underrated and I've always liked Land of Confusion, but the rest of the album sounds very dated and the songs are too popish. 12. We Can't Dance: It was nice they went back to longer songs, but some of the pop stuff just does nothing for me. It's less dated than Invisible Touch, due to not relying so much on electronic instruments. 11. Abacab: I like Dodo/Lurker, Keep it Dark and the title track. No Reply at All sounds too much like solo Phil Collins, as does Man on the Corner. The rest is forgettable. 10. Genesis: I like Home by the Sea, Mama and That's All. I'm not keen on the rest of the album. 9. And Then There Were Three: Hackett's departure is noticeable, but there are some decent cuts. Nothing spectacular, but nothing bad either. 8. Duke: My favorite of the three man era. I do wish they kept the Duke suite together, as those tracks are much stronger, but I do have a soft spot for Misunderstanding, likely because it sounds like Sail On Sailor and Hot Fun in the Summertime. 7. Trespass: Some really good stuff on this album, but you can see the impact Collins and Hackett had on the sound, though Anthony Phillips is a great guitarist. A very pastoral sound, and I love the hard rock of The Knife. 6. A Trick of the Tail: Peter Gabriel is gone, but the band sounds awesome. I love Dance on a Volcano, Squonk, Los Endos and Entangled in particular. 5. Wind and Wuthering: Steve Hackett's swan song with the group has some really awesome material such as Eleventh Earl of Mar, Blood on the Rooftops, Afterglow and One for the Vine. 4. Nursery Cryme: The addition of Phil Collins and Steve Hackett was the best move the group ever made. The Musical Box, Fountain of Salmacis and Return of the Giant Hogweed are all outstanding tracks. 3. Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: There is a lot of brilliance in this double album, but also some filler. Peter Gabriel's stamp is all over his final album with the band, for better or worse. 2. Foxtrot: Watcher in the Skies, Supper's Ready, Horizons and Can Utility are all excellent, and the other two songs are very good. 1. Selling England by the Pound: Without a doubt, their masterpiece. Some of the best guitar and drum work ever.
My list with an score: 15 - Calling All Stations - 3 14 - From Genesis to Revelation - 5 13 - Genesis - 6 12 - We Can't Dance - 6,5 11 - Trespass - 7 10 - Abacab - 7 09 - Invisible Touch - 7,5 08 - And Then There Were Three - 7,5 07 - Nursery Cryme - 8 06 - Wind & Wuthering - 8,5 05 - A Trick of the Tail - 8,5 04 - Duke - 9 03 - Selling England by the Pound - 9 02 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 9,5 01 - Foxtrot - 9,5
This would be my list 15. Calling All Stations 14. From Genesis To Revelation 13. Genesis 12. We Can't Dance 11. Nursery Cryme 10. Duke 9. Trespass 8. And Then There Were Three 7. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway 6. Wind and Wuthering 5. A Trick of The Tail 4. Abacab 3. Invisible Touch 2. Foxtrot 1. Selling England by the Pound Similar to yours in places. But Invisible Touch is top three material in my opinion.
Hey you know, none of these lists include SPOT THE PIGEON. Too bad it gets pushed under the radar becuase it has "Inside And Out", one of the finest Genesis songs ever recorded. It would be tough to pick a spot for it on this list since the other two songs are... well some humorous leftovers from W&W
In fact, even If I did know you I wouldnt care. To be offended by something not remotely offensive is so indicative of the call out culture right now. Prog should not offend anyone except rare extremely stupid people who just cant understand and therefore feel insulted.
1_ Selling England By the Pound 2- Foxtrot 3- The Lamb Lies Donw on Broadway 4- Nursery Crime 5- Trick of the Tail 6- Wind and Wuthering 7- Trespass 8- Duke 9- Genesis 10- Abacab 11- We Can't Dance 12- Invisible Touch 13- And Then There Were Three 14- Calling all Stations 15- From Genesis to Revelation From number 9 to 14, i'm not really sure about the positions. Some could change.
I have seven Genesis albums and they are your top seven. But I’d put them in a slightly different order. I liked hearing your comments because you mention things about songs that I hadn’t noticed. So I can go back and listen again and keep an ear out for those things.
You are correct about Peter Gabriel, yet the band did most of the music without him and despite the excesses of Peter, rose to a level they hadn't reached before and haven't reached since. My number one.
Agree..."The Lamb must be on top - their best work", but Trick of the Tail (equal 2nd) was the saviour (I never thought they could produce an album like this without PG) Selling England by the Pound (equal 2nd).
On FGTR they were asked by Johnathon King to write an album of Bee Gees type songs. That is why they sound like that. Plus, they were seventeen year old schoolboys, so give em a break.
Hard to believe the Bee Gees were a band for 15 years before Saturday Night Fever put them on the map. They were so boring, they should've been put out of their misery.
Your views on the Hackett era albums are very similar to mine. Where we differ is on the merits of Duke. I've regarded it and Abacab as the bottom of the pile (ignoring the first and last which I've never heard). I listened to it again this morning and it may be marginally better than I thought but I still don't by rate it anywhere close to the Hackett albums plus Trespass. It's such a shame this great band changed so much and I missed most of their peak years. I first saw them in 76 and carried on going to gigs until 82 or 83, more in hope than expectation. At least I've got Big Big Train to enjoy now.
nice Summary. Although being that I love Genesis like you, I wanted ask 1 or 2 things. Steven Hackett? I guess I've never heard him called that, but maybe he has/does? On Trespass, are you not a fan of "Stagnation"???? to me, it's 1 of the 5 best songs they ever wrote/recorded. Also White Mountain is awesome which I didn't hear you mention. MY rankings: 1. Foxtrot 2. Selling England by the Pound 3. Trespass 4. Nursery Cryme 5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 6. Duke 7. Trick of the Tail 8. Wind and Wuthering 9. And then there were Three... 10. Invisible Touch 11. Abacab 12. Genesis 13. We Can't Dance 14. Calling all Stations (Kevin Gilbert would have changed this 1 dramatically) 15. From Genesis to Revelation
First off: OH MAN! Could you imagine Kevin on Calling All Stations?!? I grew up calling him Steven Hackett, even though I know it's more Steve Hackett. So I go back and forth for that. I love all on Trespass. Vision of Angels for me is my fav from the album, but that's not diminishing the poetic brilliance of White Mountain (love the story of it). Stagnation is fun, though the end is kinda iffy for me :)
White mountain, as I alluded to elsewhere as part of an album and a story, truly is amazing. It reminds me very much of folk stories, hundreds of years old from Scandinavia. JRR Tolkien, as a professor in classical English took translations and wrote similar stories. It is how he learned to write all of his LOTR and middle earth material and many untold stories such as Berman (so?), Tom bombidil, etc.
I wonder if you agree with this assessment of Genesis' debut.... It's uniquely "British" in it's quaintness and simplicity... The only other album I can compare and say has a similar feel to it is David Bowie's debut.
May not agree with Abacab but I’m just glad you’re talking about Genesis. And yes, Selling England by the Pound is Dope as f. Trick of the Tail left me speechless. My personal fav is ...And then there were three. Tony Banks doesn’t get enough props imo. Love these dudes to death. And thank you for being a fan like me! ✌🏾
From Genesis to Revelation. The order of drummers was: 1- Chris Stewart (1967-68). 2 - John Silver (1968-69) 3 - John Mayhew (1969-70) 4 - Phil Collins (1970-??)
We Can't Dance album aged very well. Driving the Last Spike is an amazing tune. Only 1bad song "Since I Lost You". Besides that, great album. Genesis to Reveleation is worst, followed by Calling All Stations. Abacab has some good songs such as the title track and "Like it or Not".
Concuerdo con tu designación de los cuatro últimos álbumes pero no veo mala la canción "Since lost you" porque tiene un enorme contenido emocional y francamente pienso que nadie deba arrogarse la autoridad musicalmente válida de juzgar una canción de semejante grupo como "mala". Prefiero decir "esta canción me gusta mas que otra" etc...
15. We can't Dance 14. Calling all Stations 13. Invisible Touch 12. Genesis 11. Abacab 10. And then there were 3 9. Duke 8. Wind and Wuthering 7. Trick of the Tail 6. Lamb lies down on Broadway 5. From Genesis to Revelation 4. Nursery Cryme 3. Trespass 2. Selling England by the Pound 1. Foxtrot The top 10 are my favorite Genesis Albums.
I enjoyed your personal assessment of your favorite Genesis albums. My own favorite Genesis LP's are the 3 post-Gabriel, pre Hackett departure albums "Wind and Wuthering," "A Trick of the Tail," and "Seconds Out." I think its pretty cool that you are only in your thirties, yet an avid enthusiast for classic Genesis and progressive rock. It's nice for a younger generation of music fans to have an appreciation for this phenomenal older music which is sadly being forgotten. Keep up the good work!
1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway 2. Selling England by the Pound 3. Foxtrot 4. Nursery Cryme 5. A Trick of the Tail 6. Wind & Wuthering 7. Everything else
When you mentioned Burning Rope about the minor into major are you talking about the part around 35 seconds into the song at the end of the intro with the blazin' drums? Just curious being that part always tripped me out when I was a kid. It's actually the coolest riff of the whole album. I woulda' stuck the first album probably last. It's kinda' like they did full circle - crap record to excellent in the middle back down to crap (CAS). My #1 would have been Wind & Wuthering (you're right - Your Own Special Way sucks) but I do agree on a lot especially on the Silver Rainbow & Brazilian being the best songs. Don't forget Abacab had Me & Sarah Jane now - it's kinda' sorta weird ; )
Calling All Stations Abacab We Can't Dance Genesis Invisible Touch Duke From Genesis to Revelation ...And Then There Were Three... Wind and Wuthering Trick of the Tail Trespass Nursery Cryme Selling England by the Pound Foxtrot The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
From Genesis to Revelation isn’t really even Genesis to me. The song writing is juvenile as are the arrangements. Genesis became Genesis with Trespass. I can’t see putting FGtR above Abacab in any way. But it is all opinion.
Jackson Howard CAS WCD From Genesis to revelation , invisible touch Abacab Genesis Trespass ATTWT W&W Nursery cryme Foxtrot ATOTT The lamb lies down on broadway Selling England by the pound
It's not that he said Abacab his least favorite that made me shake my head. It's that he thinks it has no redeeming qualities at all. That's ridiculous.
Mine would be 1, Foxtrot 2,Trick of the Tail 3, The Lamb 4. And then there were 3 5, can't split Wind And Wuthering, Nursery Crime and Selling England by the Pound so ill have a top 8 with 3 in at 5 lol
I remember buying Abacab when it came out. Absolutely adore Keep it Dark, if I hear it, I just have to dance. Another favourite, Can Utility from Foxtrot, up on my feet again. The Brazilian, yep, another stonking blast. For Absent Friends, now I'm wistful, Ripples, particularly the live version from 2007, makes me cry, same as Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth. Bruford's drumming on Cinema Show, a sonic punch in the guts. So many great moments over the last forty five years. Thank you Genesis
dude, you're crazy. Abacab is awesome. Sarah Jane is incredible. Another Record has a deep groove and a killer melody. Dodo/Lurker is excellent and strange. I don't know where your head is at. If you like Jesus He Knows Me, then Abacab's pop elements are both hookier than that as well as unique and special.
It's heartening to see all the _Abacab_ boosters in the comments here. What puzzles me is everyone shoutouts all the tracks except the title track, which I think is Collins era Genesis' peak... it should have been on _Duke_
Abacab, while not their best, it's certainly not their worst. Watch the version of "Keep it Dark / It's Gonna Get Better" from the Mama Tour in 84. That particular performance made me realize how great Keep It Dark is. How could you not love Dodo / Lurker. The moment when he says "meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud", reminds me of the Gabriel days.
man u pretty much nailed it, cracks me up when people question where abacab was ranked, clear to see you are a true fan who gets it....i question the comments about Gabriel leaving, simply too young to have an opinion on at that time. i'd be willing to bet, the players would agree with the ranking
I would have like to have less subjective list (although no such list can't be objective) but i mean (slow ballad = snooze fest = bad) vs (upbeat energetic riffs = great) i feel it's too simple of a reflection.. but i get it and we're all making our own subjective lists ps : so glad The Brazilian and Silver Rainbow get some recognition..(underdogs of brilliant arrangements on pop album full of iconic or hit songs) pps: If i look like more of a fan of the pop era, i discovered the band with we can't dance and then discovered the prog era so i had no prejudice on any genre, so i like them both with a preference for the prog side of Genesis. My favorite album from them being The Lamb lies down on broadway.. what a unique and dark atmosphere!!!
I appreciate your enthusiasm about the later stuff, but after Peter left, they lost almost all of their beautiful weirdness. And that was what set them apart from the other from the era. The last two with Peter are easily their best for me.
I found Nursery Cryme a bit of a hit and miss affair, but I really do like "For Absent Friends" and "Harlequin". Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Wind and Wuthering, And Then There Were Three, and Genesis (1983) are my faves.
I've been a Genesis fan for nearly 50 years and had the great pleasure of seeing them live on 14 occasions and this is my personal ranking (at the moment, always likely to change, particularly the top three depending on my mood): 1 Duke 2 Trick Of The Tail 3 Selling England By The Pound 4 Wind And Wuthering 5 Invisible Touch 6 And Then There Were Three 7 We Can't Dance 8 The Lamb 9. Foxtrot 10 Trespass 11 Nursery Cryme 12 Abacab 13 Calling All Stations 14 From Genesis To Revelation 15 Genesis
Dat "Up" vinyl
I would go
1 A Trick of the Tail
2 Wind and Wuthering
3 Foxtrot
4 Selling England
5 And then there were three
6 Nursery Cryme
7 Abacab
8 Genesis
9 Invisible Touch
10 Duke
I would go with (top 4 or so change)
1. Wind & Wuthering (would have been all time favorite: take out Special Way for Please Don't Touch, than re sequence)
2. Selling England By The Pound
3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
4. A Trick Of The Tail
5. Foxtrot
6. Nursery Cryme
7. Trespass
Big drop in quality for remainder
8. And Than There Were Three
9. Genesis (Shapes)
10. Invisible Touch
@Kitten Care, love the idea of Please Don't Touch on Wind and Wuthering. My list is similar, with Selling England first.
Not Up. Drop is its name not title.
Not Up
I just starting getting into this band and oh boy, is it an amazing journey.
Same, never heard anything like it
I bought my first Genesis album, Duke (on vinyl) after hearing "Turn It On Again" and "Misunderstanding" back in the day, went backwards and then forward.
Well, enjoy it, because it will change your life. I started listening to Genesis when I was 14 ( 'Mama', my first), I'm 51 now, a professional drummer and teacher, and still loving their music.
I’d advise anyone to watch the bataclan show from 1973 that’s recently been restored to 4k, it’s on UA-cam and it is fantastic, it’s the best restoration job I’ve ever seen on a Genesis vid.
I actually LOVE 'Get 'em out by Friday', it's so underrated. Also really dig Nursery Cryme.
The version of "Get 'Em Out By Friday" on the live album is excellent and always satisfying (to👍this guy👍)
Selling England by the Pound is my favorite Genesis album, also.
"When Peter Gabriel left the band in 1975 I was concerned..." How old are you?
Michael Katits 🤦🏻♂️ right lol
Right??? This is the guy you cant believe is on your team, but he is so you roll with it and call it compassion 😁👍✌
Fantasizing that he was alive when Gabriel left. How weird is that?
i think he just means he was concerned while listening through their back catalogue for the first time.
What's the problem, I recall when he left and I was more then concerned
My top 10:
1 - Selling England By The Pound
2 - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
3 - Foxtrot
4 - Nursery Cryme
5 - A Trick of the Tail
6 - Wind & Wuthering
7 - Trespasss
8 - Duke
9 - And Then There Were Three
10 - Genesis
I concur. Great minds....
Nah.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
ABACAB
Selling England by the Pound
...And Then There Were Three...
Duke
Tresspass
Genesis to Revelation
A Trick of the Tail
Wind & Wuthering
Foxtrot
Nursery Cryme
Not a top 10, that's all I have so far.
I totally agree!
Take the first four, and that‘s it.
Foxtrot
Great list. I listened Firth of Fifth every day for a year, never got tired of it.
Firth...great piano solo...I play it once a month so as not to forget it
FoF is simply phenomenal. End of story, no question!
An absolute masterpiece. Every single one of them were at their best. The piano, synths, and guitar solos are out of this world, as the drumming.
I have been doing it for almost 41 years if I don't badly recall
Favorite Group is Genesis, favorite Song is Cinema Show, listened to that since 1973, I get emotional.
I agree with you on both counts.
Totally agree - excellent choices ....cinema show is their very best song imo
2 days ago, I heard Steve Hackett preform Fountain of Salmacis live. Man. That was freaking epic. I've always loved that song, but hearing it live. Damn.
When Steve Hackett left he took the band's musical identity/direction with him. Genesis became an entirely different band after that.
Yeah, but I’m my opinion, the pop stuff still sounds great and it’s completely different from the prog .
"and then there were three" is their most underrated album in my opinion.
Yup- first song is in 10/8 I think just to fuck with the record execs. about whom the song is...
It's ok , definitely not as good as their previous work ..
And it started to pull women in with " follow you " so it spoiled them on the idea of pop , the mentality of working less while getting more success, more money with easier work.
That's why I hate that album , culturally.
I think so
Nope. It's correctly rated. Generally uninspired and lacks a clear direction. Lack of confidence as a three piece. Duke was their redemption.
Yessss
Cul-de-sac and Man of Our Times are awesome! Heathaze is unique and dreamy and I prefer those Duke tracks to Misunderstanding any day.
I have a great love for 'And Then There Were Three'. For me something that characterises the album is that it's much better when you listen to it than you remember it being. I thought that was just me, but when the Tabletop Genesis podcast covered it, the same thing happened. In the introduction, they all professed to being lukewarm on the album but then in the track-by-track they each go crazy over virtually every song.
Ray Blake And then there were three "The lady lies" the album is awesome. You have to listen to it more than once. You climb upon a burning rope to escape the mob below. Duke is like # 2 for me, for personal reasons.
Ray Blake ATTWT is a great album imo with an atmosphere that I really love, I don’t care that some songs are stripped down.
It's a great album, and it probably contained a glimpse into where they were heading more than any album around that time in their history. Personally my favorite is "Trick of the Tail", but outside of Invisible touch I love most of their stuff.
I agree. 'And Then There Were Three' is rather unique. I've always liked it. Not one of the badest.
One of my favorites. Undertow is probably my number one on that one.
Actually Tony wrote the main chord progression on Hold On My Heart. And a great track it is. Totally wrong thinking Phil is the only one who moved to the more pop side.
Anthony Gargano He didn't. It was Banks and Rutherford that introduced the more commercial side.
Tony had a lot of involvement, probably more than he's given credit for.
@@semajttam exactly, what a lot of people dont get is that Mike and especially Tony were always the leaders as far as the band's direction.
@@kennethlund9825 You know what cements the fact Collins isnt a sell out? He wanted to do Suppers Ready to celebrate its 20th anniversary in 1992. Doubt his voice wouldve held up but they could've dropped the key....Banks and Rutherford voted him down. Heres the drummer wanting to play all that 9/8 stuff again....in the early 90s.
Gabriel went pop too.
"Genesis never had a problem being accessible"
That is why they are the greatest. They blend complexity with simplicity - they write ROCK SONGS.
BUT COOLER!
*Genesis never had a problem being accessible*
You are saying this talking about From Genesis to Revelation - everybody was playing accessible music in the 60s (Pink Floyd).
You are also saying about the same album that the typical elements for the band’s music (odd time signatures, etc) _are gone._ Those elements were not there _yet._ They were to be incorporated into their music … later.
I am watching your body language too. After seeing your ranking of the Gentle Giant albums (and others) I can say that I have never seen this much hands on hips and hands crossed over chest…
I have always liked all of the genesis erears. Genesis first and foremost were song writers. People forget that by about 1980 prog rock was dead. They managed to turn things around to make more simple songs and that proves how clever they were. As terrible as it may seem to some but I think invisible touch is right up there with foxtrot sorry
Sorry doesn't cover it.@@garyallsopp6770
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway album is by a mile my favorite.
ron schraper The Lamb is clearly way out of your league Ron. Try focusing on the quality of the tracks.
@ron schraper Agreed, to an extent. Were tracks like "The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging," "Hairless Heart," and "Ravine" really needed? I do dig "Riding the Scree," though.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy Hairless Heart are one of the best tf
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy You dont like grand parade? Are you crazy?
Same here. I've played it to death over the years. So many great pieces of music. Gabriel's playing with words is the icing on the cake.
I’ll take “Abacab” as a song over the entirety of “We Can’t Dance” or “Calling All Stations”, personally.
Honestly, in spite of its rather uniform sound, I still find _Calling All Stations_ more interesting than a lot of their '80s albums. Maybe because there's no attempt at an overt commercial hit on it. And, it must be said, Ray Wilson does sound a bit like a young Peter Gabriel.
@@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy I also liked Calling all Stations, I was tired of pop Genesis.
Man On The Corner is another underrated song. I love how ambient and atmospheric the song is.
Totally agree
Irrelevant. None of that is a patch on the albums released between 70 and 80.
Curious but Selling England by the pound was my first Genesis album. I didn´t like it at first time. I got back when Phil assumed the vocals and I liked it. Then I got back to Selling England and I loved it so much I bought all Genesis records with Peter on vocals. Since then, I'm a big Peter Gabriel fan and, for me, Selling... is the best Genesis album so far.
Couldn't agree more. That was my journey, too.
A very balanced view from someone who obviously experienced the band as a young man in a highly changed musical environment. It must be a testament to the timeless nature of their music. The reality is you still returned to the roots of their development and the true genius of those early albums. I fell in love with 'SELLING..." probably 20 years before you did - amazing!
Abacab worse than Calling all stations and Genesis to revelation? Surely not!?
Yes, this guys is an idiot
@@juliosanchez95 You can't call people idiots because they have different musical tastes
@@cristauxfeur2560 well, you must say bad choices. But this guy haven't idea when put the comparisions in between albums.
It's a good boy with a poor musical ideas.
julio Sanchez he is a moron. He has embarrassed himself. "Get up and go aspects" ....makes NO sense. Much like the rest of this drivel. Cheers.
I love abacab calling all stations that a all-time worse this guy I do not know his music and I would not take any of his advice it's him and another guy that don't have good taste in music at all
There's hardly a bad moment on Trick of the Tail.
Even "Robbery Assault & Battery" which is imo the least good of the album is still a really fun track to listen to and has its own moment of musical brilliance being the 1m30 instrumental bridge
While robbery, assault and battery is really cool, the keyboard solo is annoying and redundant. It's the one let down moment for me considering how much I adore Tony Banks's playing and writing
The title track is the best part
@@colefortier the keyboard solo is like the coolest part of the song, mate...
@@lerespect3053 I enjoy robbery more than squonk. I think the best tracks are entangled, ripples and los endos.
Selling England By The Pound is one my all time favourite albums..a Progressive Rock Masterpiece!
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2112 is the prog masterpiece
I prefer foxtrot
Their best. Just an opinion
Trespass deserves to be a lot higher if you ask me
Definitely agree! I love every song! Definitely better than duke. I love duke too, but trespass is better.
yep agree
Metalosis Maligna, it was the first change for the band and didn’t really ring any big bells !! Failed to sell, no one like it ..munch.
Couple of goods on it.
Michael Fiordimondo, why are comparing album nr 10’years later in a massively change band, trespass to Duke? R u kidding?
Did you miss Genesis in between ? I presume you haven’t heard “a trick of the tail !?”
You might as well said trespass and calling all stations for such a extreme different & diverse Period of the band’s output ! V strange...
Its a great album.
Duke is my favorite Genesis album, and one of my all time favorite albums.
It’s Tony Banks favorite album as well.
Absolutely agreed. A Progressive Opera (I mean the album must be accepted as a whole, not as a bunch of songs) masterpiece. My favourite.
Bah.
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 Only half a album. Only like 7 songs and hate the other 5 completely. Abacab is even worse only like two songs Abacab and Dodo and simply hate the rest.
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is my favorite album of all time, so...
Mine too Rich. I love it as much now as when I first heard it in the late 70's.
I don't agree with Abacab - I actually like No Reply at all, Keep it dark and man in the corner.
Yeah but Who dunnit is close to the worst song written and performed by anyone, let alone Genesis
@@frankmachin5438 a buddy and I went to see the 07 reunion concert, I kept teasing him that i was disappointed they didn't do Who dunnit...lol, that song pisses him off!
@@frankmachin5438 for me, I Cant Dance is way worse.
AlwaysaMystery Yes I can see why you say so...
Personally its my favorite of their 80s albums. I love how fuzzy, hard, and direct the sound is with the synths and drumming. The songs, excluding Who Dunnit?, are all good to great. Dodo is one of my favorites because of how shamelessly weird and synthy it is.
Wind and Wuthering is a masterpiece and One for the vine together with Eleventh Earl of Mar is about as far you can get from straight forward rock.
For me number one!!
The last track is lovely, Blood on the rooftops is great, but Eleventh Early of Marl is a bit of mess for me.
Eleventh Earl of Mar is awesome!!
tomstickland I know what you mean, and it’s that ”mess” that I like. I listen to Earl of Mar once a year (very high volume) and it’s a pure eargasm!🤣
Never forget camping out with a friend in 77 16yrs old, at midnight they had the album hour ( god I miss old FM radio) and Eleventh Earl of Mar filled the woods. First listen and it was like wow, our stoned asses soaked up the whole record.
Harold Burrows The only time I wish I was older is when I read or hear stories like yours. I ”discovered” Genesis when I was 16 in 1980. I heard Dancing on the Moonlit Knight on the radio and I immediately was in love with their music. I didn’t even bother to buy their new album ”Duke” which was released that year (a good album I think now, but not then). I did buy all the other albums though after a hard struggle for money🤣. My favourite then was Selling England... Now it’s as I wrote Wind and Wuthering. I wish I was 16 in 1971. Then I would have the possibility to see them on tour with classical set up. I would then be 66 today...as if 56 is not bad enough🤣.
Let's face it the 70s Genesis and the 80s Genesis are just two totally different bands playing a totally different type of music. It happens, it's a shame and I feel exactly the same way about Queen after about 1977/78. Best just to enjoy the Genesis you like best (70s for me) and treat the other stuff as something else.
that's true, they are quite different. I think I just much prefer Collins' voice over Gabriel's. A Trick of The Tail and Wind and Wuthering are my favorite albums, regardless of them being 70's albums. I even prefer Invisible Touch to the Gabriel era albums, with Firth of Fifth and Carpet Crawlers songs being rare exceptions.
^ Surely trolling
Absolutely.
I could not agree more. Good comparison with Queen, too.
youandwhosearmy? I agree with one exception; they should have changed the name of the band.
In my mind, The Lamb was the most "Gabrielesque" album that Genesis ever produced -- and that's enough reason to put it solidly on top of any ranking of this band. Banks is the other bona fide genius that came from this group, but I do believe that The Lamb made him very uncomfortable about Gabriel's place in the band ... and, ultimately, that's why Peter decided to do his own thing. To this day, you can research comments from Banks that attack certain Gabriel era work as being "too wordy," which supports my point about the friction between Peter and Tony. In the end, however, it's really too bad that the lineup of Banks, Collins, Gabriel, Hackett and Rutherford didn't grace the world with more timeless treasure.
Particularly as the recording process became much more advanced. To hear them recording that type of material in today's recording environment (or even the environment of the 80's) would be amazing. The 80's killed prog in a pretty drastic way, though.
Have a look here on YT at the 2007 Reissues interviews for Selling England . . -- you'll find that the way they did things sometimes didn't leave (for some) enough space in the music (see Phil discussing Epping Forest). As for Tony and Peter, they are still great friends, which is why Peter was the one to present Tony with his Prog God Award from PROG magazine (also to be found on YT).
The problem started when Collins escaped from the drums. Chester Thompson was a mighty fine drummer too.
Timberwright Svs Finally some real insight on this board. Thanks for weighing in...
@@CLGMusicMedia You make a very good point about the 80s and its effect on real progressive rock. There are many musicians who made their bones in the 70s, in fact, that have gone on record as saying that the 80s is when experimentation was slowly phased out of the business. Why? Because there were many musicians involved with producing music in the 70s ... and, sadly for all of us, they were replaced by more "business minded" executives in the post-70s era.
Dodo/Lurker from Abacab is pretty good
agreed
this is when they said good bye to prog
The title track is great too.
I'd say it had more to do with the changing musical climate of the times. They always threw a bone to their long time fans but not enough to be pure prog of course.
I think "SILVER RAINBOW" is one of the most FORGETTABLE songs by Genesis, ever.
NO HOOKS. NO NOTHING. There's something he's not telling us, like he lost his virginity to that song.
(I LOVE Cheesy-Pop Genesis, almost as much as I love art-rock Genesis... and a lot of their later stuff (and mid and first lp) LACKS HOOKS. Silver Rainbow's got nothing! ABACAB has some irresistible pop on there.)
Abacab is one of my top five favourites along with Duke, The Lamb, Selling England by the Pound, Trick of the Tail.
You're mad Cul-de-sac is a stunning track so epic, dunno how anyone could find it boring
He’s a blithering idiot who can’t even pronounce song and album titles properly, wind and weathering lol, fountain of salamatics, Harold the barrold, really haha
Cul-De-Sac is a snooze fest, are you crazy? Have you listened to the song? It's a masterpiece. Phil's singing and drumming is insane on there.
Fritz this guy talks through his arse, he cannot pronounce half of the songs or album titles correctly, infact he gets on my f******* nerves lol
The fact that this gentleman loves "The Brazilian" and "Dreaming While You Sleep" baffle me. For me, they are two of the "filler-est" tracks on any Genesis release. Tony's parallel 5ths in those tunes (also prevalent in "Dividing Line" and first over-used in the instrumental section outro of "Abacab") are just *ugh* for me. It's like he's either trying to be "rockin'" or "funky"...and it's neither...and "Cul de Sac" as a snooze fest? It's a fantastic composition.
Cul de Sac is a progressive masterpiece, just ignore this guy because he can’t even pronounce the album and song titles properly ffs. Harold the barold and fountain of salamatics, wind and weathering are just a few of his bulbous blunderings.
Kingdongdingdongdang Lmao. I just heard that. Did he just say Wind and Weathering? Haha
Finally someone agrees with me, it's so amazing! Same with man of our times. People always dismiss those two
Thank you! I couldn't separate anything from Nursery Cryme to Wind & Wuthering as they're all masterpieces for me, each with their own distinctive character. I realise you're only doing studio albums, but I'd have to put Seconds Out in there as a phenomenal live album, especially as we get to hear Collins take on all the Gabriel era epics so brilliantly, and of course we have Chester Thompson and Bill Bruford in the lineup as well.
Bill on Drums on Cinema show makes my face melt every time
Yes! Amazing!
Ha, you just named my 3 favourite albums, especially Seconds Out and W & W. Masterpieces and timeless
Tractor Countdown Agreed. Have to pick foxtrot at top because of watcher and supper.
500 yrs from now people will still listen to these songs. Unless the commies take over.
I never liked live albums, except Live and Dangerous by Thin Lizzy and Seconds Out are exceptions as they are absolutely outstanding.
Abacab ? No reply at all? Man on the corner? Keep it dark. Worst album? That’s just silly.
tommy hall that's just an opinion
No Reply At All, Man on the Corner, Keep it Dark? I'd honestly list those among the worst songs Genesis ever created. Compare those to Musical Box, Watcher of the Skies, Can-utility and the Coastliners.
Keep it Dark is great!
tommy hall - Keep It Dark is one of my favorites. There's just something about it that I love...
You're sooooooo PG
You can’t rate all their albums unless you enjoy both Phil and Peter eras
The first time I've listened to Genesis was with the Invisible Touch live concert at Wembley, I've got Hooked. Then my cousin offered me We can't dance in Vinyl, not my favorite by then. I didn't know about Peter Gabriel era (only after the internet era started), when I discovered it was love at first sight. I bought all the CD's studio/live remasters and the two Archives.
...so...all ballads are "snoozefests"? Sorry, the chord changes in most of them ("your own special way", e.g.) are fantastic, as are the lyrics. You have to pay attention, though.
Yeah don't understand how he could find cul-de-sac boring
Abacab's title track is awesome.
yes
I love Abacab
Dam straight.
And the live performances of Abacab were epic.
Yes it is. I don't know what's wrong with this guy. LOL
Drink every time he says "snoozefest"
You'll need your stomach pumped if you add every time he refers to a song as "guy." I get it...he saw Hackett mention that they used "guy" for music phrases
You drink for "snoozefest", I'll drink for "fun", and somebody else better drive.
"Tonight Tonight Tonight" = snoozefest? No way man.
Right???
This kids an idiot
Takes a while to get into it, if you’re gonna have a long song you gotta keep it interesting 🙉
Dude def doesnt know the meaning behind Tonight Tonight Tonight
80s 90s genesis are crap. Just accept it. His list is great.
For me Foxtrot is the best, followed closely by Selling England and The Lamb
I love Foxtrot to death, Selling England By the Pound might be a better prog rock album but Foxtrot will always be my favorite
Love most of their albums. To me, their best track though is The Lamia. I can never get enough of listening to it…
Silent sorrow in empty boats completes the song for me.
@@rokkkrinn2793 "Back in New York City" pure, perfect rage.
I agree completely. There are songs I like on every single Genesis album, but "The Lamia" is my personal favorite track. I've covered it and performed it dozens of times.
I finally found a reviewer that talks about prog bands and talk about one of my favourite bands in this video I agreed with most of things you said well done dude you earned a sub! 😃
I'd love to see a best to worst on Jethro Tull.
my list only has 7 albums on it. Trespass through Wind and Wuthering. They all rule.
Short of The Knife it's a lot of sleepy filler material to my ears : )
It WAS terrible sounding pre 1992 before the first remastered CD's came out from Europe. But when it was remastered after that, it is a decent sounding recording now, it's like a vale has been lifted off the recording, if you haven't checked it out lately, you should be pleasantly surprised, really. The ABC released CD sounds bad, don't get that version. The go to version at least for CD are: 1992 Europe definitive edition or the Rhino/Virgin 2006 or so versions.
Duke could easily replace Trespass, and somehow Nursery Crime was produced so poorly (worse than Trespass), as much as I want to hear those songs, it hurts my sensibilities. Leave them both off.
Yup
@@ThePwebb fuck Duke
Yes, we know you hate Abacab but its a really good album and still sounds fresh and new after all these decades.
Dude! Get ‘Em Out By Friday is amazing! One of Peter’s best lyrical moments of storytelling and social commentary
The bass line FoS on Nursery Cryme is amazing.
The whole album is such an overlooked piece of art
Phil Collins's and Peter Gabriel's favourite Genesis album is , I am proud to say , The Lamb Lies Down In Broadway . Easily their best album .
It grew on me slowly, unlike The Wall which picked me up at first listen. Now, it's my fav Genesis album. :3
Steve Hackett's is Selling England by the Pound. Not sure what Tony's is.
@@kevinrombouts3027 any album where Peter and Phil don't have as much input lol I don't think Tony is held to the fire for chasing Peter away as much as he shoukd be.
BORING :
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
__________
FAIR :
13. We Can't Dance
__________
NICE :
12. Invisible Touch
11. And Them They Were Three
__________
EXCELLENT :
10. Abacab
9. Trespass
8. Genesis
7. Duke
__________
EPIC :
6. Nursery Cryme
5. Selling England By The Pound
4. Foxtrot
__________
LEGENDARIES :
3. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2. Wind And Wuthering
1. A Trick Of The Tail
BORING:
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
FAIR:
13. And Then There Were Three
12. Abacab
NICE:
11.We Can't Dance
10. Invisible Touch
EXCELLENT:
9. Trespass
8. Genesis
7. Duke
EPIC:
6. Foxtrot
5. A Trick of the Tail
4. Wind and Wuthering
LEGENDARIES:
3. Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
2. Nursery Cryme
1.Selling England By The Pound
Mishaido Perfect!
totally agree with a Trick of Tail. It´s my favorite Genesis Album. it´s so powerfull, so complex and yet so acessible (wait, the title track isn´t it, but you got it).
For Trespass, the drummer was John Mayhew. They went through two others prior to him. When he left, Phil replaced him.
The first time i saw Genesis in concert was 1987. I do wish that I had seen them in the seventies, which is what I think is their best era. I cut my teeth on Genesis by listening to Seconds Out, so the live sound will always hold a place in my heart.
It's a shame Seconds out never gets included in any lists. It's one of the most brilliant live albums I've ever heard.
I love Abacab. The title track is catchy. Me and Sarah Jane keeps changing/to the climactic end. Dodo/Lurker were concert staples. Man on the Corner is a catchy ballad with a message. No Reply At All has some of Mike's best bass. I wasn't crazy about the last two tracks, but I wouldn't call this their worst!
I grew up with Genesis in the 70's. I bought their albums religiously and knew every song, every lyric like the back of my hand. I played them every day after school and my younger brother was also as mega-fanboy as myself and had his playing in his room, too. We drove our poor parents mental with two blasts of Genesis reverberating down the stairs. Our Mum would stand in the hall and ring a bell, shouting "Supper's Ready!" for us to come down for dinner. Quite how they put up with it I'll never know.
This reviewer, whilst enthusiastic, really doesn't fully appreciate the transition from album to album. At the time when these albums were released the amount of time my friends and I spent trying to work out the meanings entwined into the lyrics was quite excessive, at least borderline obsessive. It was certainly helped because we did Latin, and so were familiar with Greek mythology and Ovid's Metamorphoses and all that. Not so easy with The Battle Of Epping Forest, as the contents of that were somewhat too mature for us mere schoolboys. It was only later that I was able to fully understand what went on there and it remains to this day an absolute favourite. Suffice to say the "Reverend" was not a man of the cloth... and if anyone ever worked out what was meant by a "Staffordshire Plate", well, well done you. I'll say no more for not spoiling anyone's fun of discovering for themselves.
When Gabriel left it was beyond shocking. However, upon hearing A Trick Of The Tail for the first time, it's opener Dance On A Volcano - good grief, it was unbelievably great. And Genesis live during that period with Bill Bruford. Fantastic.
I attended a number of Genesis concerts over the years. On the Abacab tour I was at their Berlin show and was leaning onto the edge of the centre of the stage. Phil Collins was standing singing right in front of me. Nobody can tell me these Abacab songs were not fantastic when performed live. The sound coming off that stage and the energy and brilliance of the band all playing was something else entirely.
I simply don't have a "list" of Genesis albums. You just don't do lists for such a brilliant band. Each of their albums inhabits its own space and competes with nothing but the listeners attention. Interestingly, Tony Banks thinks Silver Rainbow (written by Genesis - all three of them) is easily one of the least inspiring songs that Genesis recorded. Each to his own as they say.
But I still like to hear others opinions and this was one of them.
"The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" I saw the tour.
I wish !!!! I remember the older kids who could drive and could actually afford concert tickets saw the LLD tour and came away like they saw God!
Wind and Weathering deserves to at least be on the list. At most, among my favorite 5. I think their last gasp at British flavored material (Blood on the Rooftops), with prog jams (11th Earl of Mar/All In a Mouses Night?) their last epic samplings (One for the Vine/Unquiet Slumber For the Sleepers-In That Quiet Earth). I think it's their most grossly underrated album.
Wuthering
Wind and wuthering. It’s even printed on the cover!
Nice one mate for putting A Trick at number 2 in your selection. It's my personal favourite. Every single track is top notch and the drumming and keyboard playing are exceptional as well as Phil Collins doing the best Peter Gabriel tribute vocal you are ever likely to hear.
It's also the one album that the Gabrielite faction would love to hate but can't because it is soooo good!!!
I'm shocked that Genesis is your favorite band yet you don't like anything on Abacab. I dig several of those jams. Crazy
Abacab is a very weak record
As I've discovered Genesis in the past year, my number one has continually changed. It all began with A Trick. I agree ENTIRELY that there exists NO duds on that one. Every song is brilliant. Entangled and Ripples are just some of the most beautiful compositions I've ever heard in my life...life changing. Next, I decided to give Wind a listen. I didn't really get it at first. It was just enough of a contrast from Trick that it threw me off. What a surprise I was in for... I believe it was the bridge on Eleventh Earl of Mar that let me know just how amazing the rest of the record was going to be. Blood On the Rooftops is a massive standout for me. Same thing happened with ATTWT. Just didn't get it at first. But, I fell in love with it very quickly. Undertow is a song that really helped heal me. Then came Duke. Fell in love with it, especially Heathaze. Dear God how can more mortals compose songs that beautiful?
Now one year on, in the past month I started to get into Gabriel Genesis despite some unfounded aversion to doing so previously. I was irritated with myself for not discovering it sooner. For not listening to those who professed the awesomeness of the Gabriel era. I started with SEBTP. What brilliance. Then came an album that has quite categorically changed my life. The way I see life, in fact. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway has got to be the greatest concept album of our time. The Lamia. The Carpet Crawlers. Hell, of course, the whole record. It is my favorite record ever. Bar none.
Decades ago I was in a band and we had this young guy on guitar, he was into Metallica and that ilk. We were doing Rock and Roll stuff, Springsteen, Melloncamp et al. I loaned him Lamb lies down saying, this is where you need to be going? He left the band a few months later and started writing original Prog rock...
I can totally understand why people don't like Abacab but i really like it because i can relate to what they were trying to do.
It's a really abstract version of Genesis as a whole, sitting in between pop and prog but without any concept of structure whatsoever. In its own way, it's very proggy because it's so abstract. That hurt its reputation because there are very few moments one can latch on to when diggesting this record. But i admire that apporach and i think they succeeded for the most part.
It's not among their strongest work but i feel it's way better than anything that came after.
And to be honest, Who Dunnit is one of the reasons i like Abacab: it's very much its own silly abstract thing.
The biggest problem with their '80s/'90s albums: too many drum machines and generic synthesizers. It all just gives everything a more synthetic sound. : /
Tony Banks, in my opinion is a genius. And he likes very much Who Dunnit?
Since A Trick of The Tail we can learned who were the composers of the songs. People thinked that Peter Gabriel was the Ian Anderson of Genesis making all music and lyrics.
Bought "Selling England by the Pound" beginning eighties. Masterpiece!! listned to it a million times or more....Thought there couldn't be any album better then this... so I am now ready (after almost 40 years) for probably their next brilliant album. Any suggestions?
Even if you are a prog Genesis fan, how do you put Abacab below Invisible Touch and We Cant Dance??
My list, from worst to best:
15. From Genesis to Revolution: A completely different sound and style from the band that I never really got into. Sounds more Bee Gees than prog rock.
14. Calling All Stations: Ray Wilson is a good singer, but with Collins gone and only two classic members left, it doesn't sound like Genesis. Not surprised this was the last one.
13. Invisible Touch: Domino is cool, The Brazilian is underrated and I've always liked Land of Confusion, but the rest of the album sounds very dated and the songs are too popish.
12. We Can't Dance: It was nice they went back to longer songs, but some of the pop stuff just does nothing for me. It's less dated than Invisible Touch, due to not relying so much on electronic instruments.
11. Abacab: I like Dodo/Lurker, Keep it Dark and the title track. No Reply at All sounds too much like solo Phil Collins, as does Man on the Corner. The rest is forgettable.
10. Genesis: I like Home by the Sea, Mama and That's All. I'm not keen on the rest of the album.
9. And Then There Were Three: Hackett's departure is noticeable, but there are some decent cuts. Nothing spectacular, but nothing bad either.
8. Duke: My favorite of the three man era. I do wish they kept the Duke suite together, as those tracks are much stronger, but I do have a soft spot for Misunderstanding, likely because it sounds like Sail On Sailor and Hot Fun in the Summertime.
7. Trespass: Some really good stuff on this album, but you can see the impact Collins and Hackett had on the sound, though Anthony Phillips is a great guitarist. A very pastoral sound, and I love the hard rock of The Knife.
6. A Trick of the Tail: Peter Gabriel is gone, but the band sounds awesome. I love Dance on a Volcano, Squonk, Los Endos and Entangled in particular.
5. Wind and Wuthering: Steve Hackett's swan song with the group has some really awesome material such as Eleventh Earl of Mar, Blood on the Rooftops, Afterglow and One for the Vine.
4. Nursery Cryme: The addition of Phil Collins and Steve Hackett was the best move the group ever made. The Musical Box, Fountain of Salmacis and Return of the Giant Hogweed are all outstanding tracks.
3. Lamb Lies Down on Broadway: There is a lot of brilliance in this double album, but also some filler. Peter Gabriel's stamp is all over his final album with the band, for better or worse.
2. Foxtrot: Watcher in the Skies, Supper's Ready, Horizons and Can Utility are all excellent, and the other two songs are very good.
1. Selling England by the Pound: Without a doubt, their masterpiece. Some of the best guitar and drum work ever.
You're a Prog elitist
Nektar Panagiotis that’s fine
@@DanceOfTheDawn5963 I love prog, but elitism is too annoying to ignore
Their first album wasnt supposed to be prog and its so stupid that people insult it because they think its supposed to be prog
Cool, nice reading, thanks
My list with an score:
15 - Calling All Stations - 3
14 - From Genesis to Revelation - 5
13 - Genesis - 6
12 - We Can't Dance - 6,5
11 - Trespass - 7
10 - Abacab - 7
09 - Invisible Touch - 7,5
08 - And Then There Were Three - 7,5
07 - Nursery Cryme - 8
06 - Wind & Wuthering - 8,5
05 - A Trick of the Tail - 8,5
04 - Duke - 9
03 - Selling England by the Pound - 9
02 - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 9,5
01 - Foxtrot - 9,5
This would be my list
15. Calling All Stations
14. From Genesis To Revelation
13. Genesis
12. We Can't Dance
11. Nursery Cryme
10. Duke
9. Trespass
8. And Then There Were Three
7. The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
6. Wind and Wuthering
5. A Trick of The Tail
4. Abacab
3. Invisible Touch
2. Foxtrot
1. Selling England by the Pound
Similar to yours in places. But Invisible Touch is top three material in my opinion.
Trespass below abacab and invisible touch is insulting
@@dougmcauliffe2253 Insulting to who ecactly? To you? Well I dont know you so I don't care.
Hey you know, none of these lists include SPOT THE PIGEON. Too bad it gets pushed under the radar becuase it has "Inside And Out", one of the finest Genesis songs ever recorded. It would be tough to pick a spot for it on this list since the other two songs are... well some humorous leftovers from W&W
In fact, even If I did know you I wouldnt care. To be offended by something not remotely offensive is so indicative of the call out culture right now. Prog should not offend anyone except rare extremely stupid people who just cant understand and therefore feel insulted.
Nice Sam the Record Man shirt! Takes me back to the late 70's, cruising the Yonge St. strip in Toronto.
A legendary piece of Toronto history! At least the sign is on that building near victoria and dundas.
1_ Selling England By the Pound
2- Foxtrot
3- The Lamb Lies Donw on Broadway
4- Nursery Crime
5- Trick of the Tail
6- Wind and Wuthering
7- Trespass
8- Duke
9- Genesis
10- Abacab
11- We Can't Dance
12- Invisible Touch
13- And Then There Were Three
14- Calling all Stations
15- From Genesis to Revelation
From number 9 to 14, i'm not really sure about the positions. Some could change.
I have seven Genesis albums and they are your top seven. But I’d put them in a slightly different order. I liked hearing your comments because you mention things about songs that I hadn’t noticed. So I can go back and listen again and keep an ear out for those things.
The Lamb must be on top - their best work. :) And Abacab is not completely without merit. Title track and Dodo/Lurker are good tracks.
Lamb is a masurbation piece for Peter Gabriel. Easily Foxtrot and Selling England are better, maybe Trick of the Tail too.
You are correct about Peter Gabriel, yet the band did most of the music without him and despite the excesses of Peter, rose to a level they hadn't reached before and haven't reached since. My number one.
There's no album like The Lamb, before or since, it's their masterpiece.
And the lyrics are quite amazing too. Peter was checked out of the group, but he wasn't checked out of the music.
Agree..."The Lamb must be on top - their best work", but Trick of the Tail (equal 2nd) was the saviour (I never thought they could produce an album like this without PG) Selling England by the Pound (equal 2nd).
Abacab worst album. You are friggin crazy. The title song completely rocks and the song No Reply is awesome as well.
Check out my list
On FGTR they were asked by Johnathon King to write an album of Bee Gees type songs. That is why they sound like that. Plus, they were seventeen year old schoolboys, so give em a break.
Hard to believe the Bee Gees were a band for 15 years before Saturday Night Fever put them on the map. They were so boring, they should've been put out of their misery.
What is your background music here Notes? Love it.
Your views on the Hackett era albums are very similar to mine.
Where we differ is on the merits of Duke. I've regarded it and Abacab as the bottom of the pile (ignoring the first and last which I've never heard). I listened to it again this morning and it may be marginally better than I thought but I still don't by rate it anywhere close to the Hackett albums plus Trespass.
It's such a shame this great band changed so much and I missed most of their peak years. I first saw them in 76 and carried on going to gigs until 82 or 83, more in hope than expectation.
At least I've got Big Big Train to enjoy now.
nice Summary. Although being that I love Genesis like you, I wanted ask 1 or 2 things.
Steven Hackett? I guess I've never heard him called that, but maybe he has/does?
On Trespass, are you not a fan of "Stagnation"???? to me, it's 1 of the 5 best songs they ever wrote/recorded. Also White Mountain is awesome which I didn't hear you mention.
MY rankings:
1. Foxtrot
2. Selling England by the Pound
3. Trespass
4. Nursery Cryme
5. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
6. Duke
7. Trick of the Tail
8. Wind and Wuthering
9. And then there were Three...
10. Invisible Touch
11. Abacab
12. Genesis
13. We Can't Dance
14. Calling all Stations (Kevin Gilbert would have changed this 1 dramatically)
15. From Genesis to Revelation
First off: OH MAN! Could you imagine Kevin on Calling All Stations?!?
I grew up calling him Steven Hackett, even though I know it's more Steve Hackett. So I go back and forth for that.
I love all on Trespass. Vision of Angels for me is my fav from the album, but that's not diminishing the poetic brilliance of White Mountain (love the story of it). Stagnation is fun, though the end is kinda iffy for me :)
White mountain, as I alluded to elsewhere as part of an album and a story, truly is amazing. It reminds me very much of folk stories, hundreds of years old from Scandinavia. JRR Tolkien, as a professor in classical English took translations and wrote similar stories. It is how he learned to write all of his LOTR and middle earth material and many untold stories such as Berman (so?), Tom bombidil, etc.
Trespass drummer: John Mayhew, Only one with this guy
I wonder if you agree with this assessment of Genesis' debut.... It's uniquely "British" in it's quaintness and simplicity... The only other album I can compare and say has a similar feel to it is David Bowie's debut.
I can see that. That may be why I don't connect to the debut album, as I'm a bit removed from that British quality.
In both cases the artists were finding themselves and scratching their 60's folk itch and hadn't yet fully turned toward the art and progressive rock.
A bad Genesis album, is still a good album.
It's one of those bands, yeah
I still listen to (as we call it) "that last crappy Genesis album" once in a while. Not Ray Wilson's fault...
May not agree with Abacab but I’m just glad you’re talking about Genesis. And yes, Selling England by the Pound is Dope as f. Trick of the Tail left me speechless. My personal fav is ...And then there were three. Tony Banks doesn’t get enough props imo. Love these dudes to death. And thank you for being a fan like me! ✌🏾
The missing drummer on Trespass is John Mayhew :)
I think you mean Peter Mayhew. He was a famous for his excessive amount of body hair and inability to articulate words. At least he was a good pilot.
What album was John Silver on?
From Genesis to Revelation.
The order of drummers was:
1- Chris Stewart (1967-68).
2 - John Silver (1968-69)
3 - John Mayhew (1969-70)
4 - Phil Collins (1970-??)
Music is a very personal thing. We all like different music even within one band. Personally, I adore everything from Trespass to Trick of the Tail
We Can't Dance album aged very well. Driving the Last Spike is an amazing tune. Only 1bad song "Since I Lost You". Besides that, great album.
Genesis to Reveleation is worst, followed by Calling All Stations. Abacab has some good songs such as the title track and "Like it or Not".
Concuerdo con tu designación de los cuatro últimos álbumes pero no veo mala la canción "Since lost you" porque tiene un enorme contenido emocional y francamente pienso que nadie deba arrogarse la autoridad musicalmente válida de juzgar una canción de semejante grupo como "mala". Prefiero decir "esta canción me gusta mas que otra" etc...
It's crap. Deal with it.
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 JAJAJA!!! "SEGURAMENTE TU LO HARÍAS MEJOR QUE ELLOS"
@@lubenretrolletarios7901 "IT'S CRAP. DEAL WITH IT".
Since I lost you is one of the stronger songs, but the album sucks immensely compared to their earlier works
15. We can't Dance
14. Calling all Stations
13. Invisible Touch
12. Genesis
11. Abacab
10. And then there were 3
9. Duke
8. Wind and Wuthering
7. Trick of the Tail
6. Lamb lies down on Broadway
5. From Genesis to Revelation
4. Nursery Cryme
3. Trespass
2. Selling England by the Pound
1. Foxtrot
The top 10 are my favorite Genesis Albums.
I enjoyed your personal assessment of your favorite Genesis albums. My own favorite Genesis LP's are the 3 post-Gabriel, pre Hackett departure albums "Wind and Wuthering," "A Trick of the Tail," and "Seconds Out." I think its pretty cool that you are only in your thirties, yet an avid enthusiast for classic Genesis and progressive rock. It's nice for a younger generation of music fans to have an appreciation for this phenomenal older music which is sadly being forgotten. Keep up the good work!
I also thing Selling England is their best. I can't wait to see it live tonight in Vienna, Austria by Steve Hackett :)
I saw Steve Hackett recently. It was a great show.
1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
2. Selling England by the Pound
3. Foxtrot
4. Nursery Cryme
5. A Trick of the Tail
6. Wind & Wuthering
7. Everything else
The top five is just my list! and the six place is for Trespass and the seven is for Wind & Wuthering
I would agree. Basically when Grabriel was there
1. Selling England 2. A trick 3. Foxtrot 4.wind & Wuthering 5. From Genesis to Revolution
Very good list
@@stigb56
Wait... From Genesis is higher than The Lamb Lies Down?
When you mentioned Burning Rope about the minor into major are you talking about the part around 35 seconds into the song at the end of the intro with the blazin' drums? Just curious being that part always tripped me out when I was a kid. It's actually the coolest riff of the whole album. I woulda' stuck the first album probably last. It's kinda' like they did full circle - crap record to excellent in the middle back down to crap (CAS). My #1 would have been Wind & Wuthering (you're right - Your Own Special Way sucks) but I do agree on a lot especially on the Silver Rainbow & Brazilian being the best songs. Don't forget Abacab had Me & Sarah Jane now - it's kinda' sorta weird ; )
"Harold the Barold"
Calling All Stations
Abacab
We Can't Dance
Genesis
Invisible Touch
Duke
From Genesis to Revelation
...And Then There Were Three...
Wind and Wuthering
Trick of the Tail
Trespass
Nursery Cryme
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
From Genesis to Revelation is better than Duke or Abacab? Say What? SMH.
+CMCguitars1 Definitely beats Abacab for me. Not sure about Duke though. That one's in a whole 'nother league (compared to Abacab).
From Genesis to Revelation isn’t really even Genesis to me. The song writing is juvenile as are the arrangements. Genesis became Genesis with Trespass. I can’t see putting FGtR above Abacab in any way. But it is all opinion.
Jackson Howard CAS
WCD
From Genesis to revelation , invisible touch
Abacab
Genesis
Trespass
ATTWT
W&W
Nursery cryme
Foxtrot
ATOTT
The lamb lies down on broadway
Selling England by the pound
+CMCguitars1 FGtR being "juvenile" is probably exactly why i WOULD put it above Abacab; the lesser of two evils.
It's not that he said Abacab his least favorite that made me shake my head. It's that he thinks it has no redeeming qualities at all. That's ridiculous.
TOP 5: Genesis
1. Trick of the Tail
2. Foxtrot
3. Selling England by the Pound
4. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
5. Duke
Mine would be
1, Foxtrot
2,Trick of the Tail
3, The Lamb
4. And then there were 3
5, can't split Wind And Wuthering, Nursery Crime and Selling England by the Pound so ill have a top 8 with 3 in at 5 lol
@@mickb2009 nice, i might want to update my list after i recently heard nursery cryme more deeply
I remember buying Abacab when it came out. Absolutely adore Keep it Dark, if I hear it, I just have to dance. Another favourite, Can Utility from Foxtrot, up on my feet again. The Brazilian, yep, another stonking blast. For Absent Friends, now I'm wistful, Ripples, particularly the live version from 2007, makes me cry, same as Hackett's solo on Firth of Fifth. Bruford's drumming on Cinema Show, a sonic punch in the guts. So many great moments over the last forty five years. Thank you Genesis
Right on! I completely agree with your choices!
Foxtrot is my favorite. Followed by the Lamb Lies down, then selling England by the pound.
dude, you're crazy. Abacab is awesome. Sarah Jane is incredible. Another Record has a deep groove and a killer melody. Dodo/Lurker is excellent and strange. I don't know where your head is at. If you like Jesus He Knows Me, then Abacab's pop elements are both hookier than that as well as unique and special.
It's heartening to see all the _Abacab_ boosters in the comments here. What puzzles me is everyone shoutouts all the tracks except the title track, which I think is Collins era Genesis' peak... it should have been on _Duke_
i like the title track, but i don't love it. the lyrics are confusing to me, which is a good thing!
Abacab, while not their best, it's certainly not their worst. Watch the version of "Keep it Dark / It's Gonna Get Better" from the Mama Tour in 84. That particular performance made me realize how great Keep It Dark is. How could you not love Dodo / Lurker. The moment when he says "meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud", reminds me of the Gabriel days.
Like It or not from Abacab is not bad, I really love that song.
man u pretty much nailed it, cracks me up when people question where abacab was ranked, clear to see you are a true fan who gets it....i question the comments about Gabriel leaving, simply too young to have an opinion on at that time. i'd be willing to bet, the players would agree with the ranking
I would have like to have less subjective list (although no such list can't be objective) but i mean (slow ballad = snooze fest = bad) vs (upbeat energetic riffs = great) i feel it's too simple of a reflection.. but i get it and we're all making our own subjective lists
ps : so glad The Brazilian and Silver Rainbow get some recognition..(underdogs of brilliant arrangements on pop album full of iconic or hit songs)
pps: If i look like more of a fan of the pop era, i discovered the band with we can't dance and then discovered the prog era so i had no prejudice on any genre, so i like them both with a preference for the prog side of Genesis. My favorite album from them being The Lamb lies down on broadway.. what a unique and dark atmosphere!!!
I appreciate your enthusiasm about the later stuff, but after Peter left, they lost almost all of their beautiful weirdness. And that was what set them apart from the other from the era. The last two with Peter are easily their best for me.
Top 5
5. Nursery Cryme
4. Selling England By the Pound
3. A Trick of the Tail
2. Foxtrot
1. The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
You are on the right track. The first album I used as a frisbee was invisible touch and anything after I did not even bother to buy.
I found Nursery Cryme a bit of a hit and miss affair, but I really do like "For Absent Friends" and "Harlequin". Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Wind and Wuthering, And Then There Were Three, and Genesis (1983) are my faves.
I've been a Genesis fan for nearly 50 years and had the great pleasure of seeing them live on 14 occasions and this is my personal ranking (at the moment, always likely to change, particularly the top three depending on my mood):
1 Duke
2 Trick Of The Tail
3 Selling England By The Pound
4 Wind And Wuthering
5 Invisible Touch
6 And Then There Were Three
7 We Can't Dance
8 The Lamb
9. Foxtrot
10 Trespass
11 Nursery Cryme
12 Abacab
13 Calling All Stations
14 From Genesis To Revelation
15 Genesis