Can you see the woman, and they home its clean and nice,. Do you think they are bad for the kids yet they are so pretty to the little pet. Wtf is wrong with this world stand up and destroy those bastards.
@@Lou500 Agreed. The situation would only be way worse. Only idiots think that everything can be solved with guns..... 😒 look at what happened at the congress. Puh.
Do something, people! If you just sit there shaking heads, nothing will change. Fight for your rights! I like the nature of your country, but your laws are all against you. :/
This is hell on earth for parents, I can't belive this really happens in a country considered civilised, a child is not an animal, it's a human being.. shame! I have no words to describe what I'm feeling after seeing this film
Omg... what a disgusting country with disgusting laws... I hope the mother was not separated from her children permanently. What a heart wrenching cry!
It is much more serious - it means that basic legal norms - sanctity of one s home, habeas corpus, authorities being able to wnter without a warrant - are absent in Norway, and those norms are fundamental to democracy.
Svarte FAEN. Bloody hell. This country is so fucked up in any way. The Norwegian social service can burn in hell! My sister was taken away from my mother, because they thought she was a drug addict, which she's not. People have been lying for over 20 years. I'm so mad at them. Is there one thing I know about my mom, is that she is not a drug addict. But she's been drinking heavy after they ruined her life. But she's now back on track, thanks to me. And I'm so bloody happy to be 21 years old, so they can't do shit to me.
Everything works very simply. If someone saw that your kid was a bit different, for example, doesn't eat norwegian traditional food, has different point of view, is smarter or dumber than ''the normal'', doesn't wear ''normal'' clothes or acts differently than every other blond girl or boy that are afraid to stand out from the crowd, your own kid will be kidnapped and sent to a ''normal'', ''usual'', ''obedient'' family where a youngster will be forced to be exactly the same to the other around. Is it bad for a kid that he's different? No, that is awesome. Is it bad for the nation? Oh yes, his parents are criminals and they have to be punished so hard that they want to kill themselves. How else could government grow their own sheeps? And how can someone who looks from a way different perspective decide what's the best for a neighbour's child? The problem is with everyone of us, dear people. Even the ''kidnappers'' are human beings but they are being fully controlled by some other people who pay them. Everyone can become very easily controlled. So stop for a second and run through your thoughts a bit. Are you a good person? Do your wishes come from your heart or they come from the social need? Is there anyone else who does the thinking job for you..? But yes, it's good to live in rich countries such as Norway. But you've just seen the price people are paying everyday. They have to loose themselves and have to fit in - OR ELSE...
that means DO NOT live in Norway...let the perverts enjoy themselves and do not give them children..I wanted to go there for holiday, But NEVER..I have children..
What a shame, the police put their power on a woman . How can you not feel remorse? Are you not afraid of God to punish you all ?? I'm Muslim women and this is really heartbreaking 💔
I can't believe it. They are just sitting and crying and making record. Why don't they fighting? I would use eveything as weapon. Glas, desk, chair, knife, bottles. They wouldn't just walk away alive from my house.
How can all of you watch this video, and based on this video alone, determine how the mother have been treating and caring for her daughter her whole life? For all you know, she could be abusing the baby. You know one side of the story, and one side only. You know nothing about how the baby has been treated. Nothing! And for all the crazy people talking about how we need other countries genes and what not, you need help!
Alexander Hansen alexander, lots of documentals talk about it. Absurd reasons are behind. I understand if moms are directly harming the kids. The situation in Norway is well known in many countries. Its funny, they take hundreds of children away from their parents, and at the same time, Norway frees murderers after 12 years in prison... incredible.
Not just in Norway. Here in Quebec (Canada) is called dpj and they took 3 of my children this way and finally took the baby at the hospital. They took my 4 babies.
i wonder how these people can sleep at night after destroying families and damaging children forever, no respect for them and i have to live here just because i made the mistake to have my child here...
Children should not be removed from families without a well justified reason. Social services making up lies and introducing severe bias in reports is unconscionable and should not be allowed.
The cops even look depressed WTF! That place looks clean and the baby seemed happy and she had help with her. What's the problem! Well I can say this God will treat you as you treat others! So doesn't matter who's orders your following. Boycott the fucking system and find a better profession! This is wrong and your faces show it on every one!
Seems like Norway is really a messed corner of Europe. The Czech case is absolutely shocking one, especially when I read that a mother of those two kids was "kindly" allowed to speak Czech when she could finally visit her kids, after a two years of "Norwegisation" kid could barely speak Czech. Long story short Norway approves and support genocide
My heart goes with you .. as a mother I feel your pain.. I cried through the video.. After the protests in Sweden and the awareness it brought .. there is no excuse . Some laws MUST change!!
I was born in Norway and lived there For my first eight years of my life. My family is polish, so it's obvious that parents and adults in general like to drink a few beers on a special day. They didn't get horribly drunk because children were around. Yet, there was this one neighbour that reported to the police that there's pathology going on in our house. Which wasn't true. True pathology would happen in the house next us. The husband would slap the wife in the face and do other unacceptable things. We had to move to Poland because of that neighbour who falsely accused my parents of being pathological. It's so frustrating.
+Richard Emmanuel Marius Reikerås he is standing for us all.... Families who have been torn apart do to religion, meticulous things..... He is Born and raised in Norway......
I'm from the US, I have never heard of it being so *extreme*. I know in the USA you are granted a fair trial and with a paid lawyer or a free one. In Norway you do not get a trial and children are NOT allowed to go to the next relative family EVER and within 2 months without DUE PROCESS, they are being adopted and that is why Norway has been found guilty 4 times by the Europes Human Rights Society. US is not perfect and I am angry for that too. I don't children should be taken unless there is a real court order and atleast given a chance for therapy, and passed to next of kin, not be *sold* like a freaking trafficking!
This is a disgusting system, Norwegians should stand up for the innocent parents. I have heard that your child can be taken into care without much evidence that they are being hurt physically or mentally.
Having their children taken away is a terrible thing, but most child abuses actually occur within family. You're saying Barnevernet "kidnaps" children, but why don't abusive parents (brothers, uncles, cousins, grandparents) think of consequences before abusing their children (brothers, cousins, grandchildren) ?
Go investigate children that were placed in foster care and see how many children are molested in foster care. But those stories never make the news. There is video on UA-cam with a 15 yr old placed in foster care . She tried to commit suicide 5 times after being kidnapped she was locked up in a closet by foster parents and when she reported it to social worker they called her a liar and never came to investigate. You are an agent for bv doing damage control for them. But by now the whole world knows your attrocities and crimes against humanity. Go kiss bvs behind cause they are not gonna function like this too long. More and more people are finding out the truth. The children were checked by multiple doctors and in spite of bv doctors X-rays cat scans didn't show any evidence of abuse. If abuse were proven they would have been in jail not allowed to work as nurse in pediatric you low iq person. In any crimes if dna is not proven case is dismissed. With bv breastfeeding became illegal. Children sleeping in same room with parents bc of either disability or Indian custom is illegal. Where the hell do you kidnappers draw the line ? You can defend your independent illegal agency all you want. The proof is in the pudding and by now too much evidence was brought to light against your illegal agency.
+diaphilm with bodnariu family was no abuse.only correcting children but this is for nazibarnevernet enough to rob 5 children without warning,without a time of overseeing the family if they would chanche their behaviour. gestapo barnevernet have done more harm then good in lot of families.
Damn fucking right! I got sent away with "Barnevernet" when i was 13. Worst year of my freakin messed up life. The government here are insane. I spent 1 year in a foster home with psychopaths who tried to minupilate me to think they where my NEW PARENTS. I said this to the police (and barnevernet) and they did not care at all. They just took me as a little confused child. Well I was not! My life got REALLY screwed up because of them. Now that I'm finally 15. Im starting to get better....
@Johnny Doe Haters (like you) just be jealous of my beautiful cocoa brown skin. It doesn't crack or burn and the sun loves me unlike that pale purulent coating of pus you call skin. Go back to your dark, dank and musty cave, creature!
You would only be charged with murder and sent to jail, and they would move the kid far away from you, not letting you know where in the country, so that you'd never have any contact with your child ever again.
On the mothers facebook she wrote that she got a message from the police saying they were coming. She was told the day before they came, as well as the same day, so this did not come out of nowhere. The mother also lost her other child some years back and after watching her for 6 months they decided it was best to take Ana (the baby) as well. As far as I know, the mother have a history with abusing drugs (not sure if she was when the video was filmed). It was not the police who decided to take away the child, as they said if you could understand norwegian - they knew nothing about the case. They were calm and there to prevent any disturbance and harm. Hence why they had to keep the mother away; she was being aggressive, both physical and verbal. If the mother had handled the situation a little better (and I know that is hard, but she knew they were coming), she probably would be allowed to say goodbye. She was also suffering mentally. She wrote several things, including the name and address to the people who looked out for Ana after she was taken, on facebook. Barnevernet is not there for the parents, but for the children. And the most ridiculous thing I've read; No, they do not earn money for each child they take away!!! They have a normal paid job, with an hourly wage. And traditional families? It does not matter what color, religion or ethnicity. All children is treated equal and they do not choose who they take based on any of that. Yes, they do make mistakes, but most of the time they have saved children from what could've ended very badly (have seen a few of those cases as well, and then all of the sudden everyone asks where BV was to prevent that). And if you see the ratings of guns and gunshots in Norway and compare them to other countries, I believe we are doing just fine without them. Just remember that this is just one side of the case and if we had known every little detail maybe you would see things differently.
+M. C.N. excellent point. These people whose children are taken away are FUCKED forever. How can they live like that knowing their own children are taken away? The could be taken away temporarily and that is a good reason for them to correct their problems but Barnevernet is giving no options of ever taking their children back. This is barbaric. Who are they to choose for somebody else? Who chooses the foster parents? This is like playing god (im not a believer in that sense...) with poor people's lives. On top of their emotional problems this agency is throwing them in a whole they would never be able to get out from. How human is that?
+kukuvaldi +M. C.N Actually, many children are given back to the parents bc the parents proved that they are better and can take care of the child. Yes, I get that it is traumatic for the parents to loose the child, but it is also traumatic for the children to live with the biological parents when they are in no shape to take care of them. And the mother in this video got a warning 6 months before the child was taken away. She could've done something to prevent it. It seems like people are not understanding that BV is first and foremost about children and protecting them. It does not matter how sad and affected the parents are, when the children are abused and/or not taken care of and therefore will be better off in another family. And if the parents are that affected, shouldn't that be a motivation to get better and hopefully get custody of the child later. It is not BV job to help the parents to get rid of their physical or mental problems, but there are lots of other organisations that can.
+popapopas Just because you live in a country who think and judge people based on race and how the look, does not mean you know anything about what these views are in Norway. We've come longer than to "pick" children based on what they look like. I believe the romanian case is a very good example of that, even though BV did a mistake. Of course there are more ethical Norwegians taken away, but that is because there is more Norwegians living in Norway!!!
+popapopas I have no opinion or interest in what country you live in. And I and everyone else know that BV can and do make mistakes, but most of the time they do make the right decision and help those who really need help.
Інтернет-портал Глобал_Аналітик Barley anyone in Norway have firearms, and if they do, its not for protection but for hunting, like shotguns and huntingrifles. But even if they had guns, youre suggesting they shoot the cops? Murder seems to be the best solution for you?
Wrong! Norway is the eleventh most wepound dence country in the world. 1 318 004 registered legal firearms. www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/q1R1g/Et-land-fullt-av-vapen-og-regler
And this bloody country has the unmitigated gall to criticize other countries' human rights records and pretends to be some kind of arbiter - DISGUSTING - a criminal state premised on child trafficking
ErectusCuntus - So ignorant of you. Kids there get TAKEN AWAY for such absurd reasons such as having a parent pulling off a wobbly tooth or leaving them home alone for a few hours OR EVEN BEING TOO FAT OR SKINNY. Those reasons are not "abuse".
I'm a Norwegian and I'm appalled. Barnevernet has been acting like a modern version of Gestapo for way too long already. The fact of the matter is that it's a billion dollar industry in Norway, where private profiteers are able to enrich themselves with the blessings of government officials. How so.? Because if a family or single mother faces hardships, it's considered an expense to the local social services if they were to render any support. If, on the other hand, the children are removed from the parents, social services will receive $$$$$ from the federal government. One can only speculate as to the extent of it, but I tend to believe that quite a few people up the food-chain, have their hands deeply planted in the honey jar here.
Johnny Doe Norway is the most advanced seafaring nation, our GDP per capita is way higher than yours, and our quality of life is ten times higher than in the US. Remind me again who is the lowlife here
Dust Bowl Yes they are popular, majority of children that are snatched are from slavic families. And reason for it because slavs have strong blood. While norwegian blood is very bad, that's why there are so many disabled children born in Norway, It's a dying nation.
***** Slavs aren't dying at all. Look at your country, it's full of in-breading and physically disabled new borns. That's why you steal many slavic children, because they have strong genes, while your genes are one of the worlds weakest.
I always thought of Norway as one of the best countries with the best people, but this is a disgrace. Being that my child you would be sorry for this. Very sorry.
In Norway there are clear guidelines for when and if childcare can remove the parent's custody of their children. Psychologists, social workers and doctors are helping in evaluating each and every case. And the general rule is always the biological principle, that the child should grow up with their biological parents. If living with their parents severly hampers the future life and development of the child (if the parents have psychological disorders, drug-abuse etc. then the law is quite clear; the child must be removed to secure it's own future. Understandable this is seen as outrageous in some countries (especially in orthodox/catholic countries, where removing children from their families are something you almost never hear of). Sadly this is necessary in some cases, and though it may seem heartless to a lot of you, think about this; would you wish for any child to live in a household where they might be the subject of abuse, or witnessing drug-abusing parents? Not saying that this is the case here in the vid, but Norwegian ChildCare never take such cases lightly, and the bar for child removal is still quite high.
It's a matter of what point of view you have. I have two cousins who have had a child removed because they were simply unfit to be parents. That's not the excuse CPS had of course, but they did several evaluations and interviews before making their decision. The evaluations took almost a year. These things are never taken lightly, and in both cases here they offered classes for how they could be better parents. 1 of them showd up at these classes and the other just did not care. In any case, they were both seen as a "danger" to the children's development and security. The entire familiy (mine included) agreed to the decision, except my cousins of course. I know a psychologist who works closely with CPS in my current hometown (Bergen) and he tells me of extremely strict but firm rules for child removal. The statistics may be high in Norway compared to other countries, but most of the population and the government sees this as necessary! And you can say a lot of orthodox and catholic countries, but child abuse/domestic abuse is way more prominent there than in for example Norway, Denmark and Iceland. Sweden and Finland is really bad though, as is France and England. But countries such as Romania, Lithuania and Slovakia have plenty of issues as well. In fact on average, eastern-european countries score lower than European countries. Just because the demands of Norwegian CPS is higher than most countries, that does not mean Norway should lower theirs.
+popapopas Its funny reading all your comments when you're talking against your own arguments. "Maybe they do the right things with Norwegian families, and they protect those children who really need protection. But they just commit abuse with immigrants." And a few comments down you write; "... what is happening is not identifying children who need protecting, it is about identifying children who can be easily adopted. The little girl in this movie is while, beautiful, very young to be not attached to her biological mother. She is perfect from all these points of view." Make up your mind.
+popapopas First of all, it's not the oil itself that have made our welfare. It's how we've managed it. You still talk about the Bodnarius case like you know every detail. Though you have been proven wrong several times. At first you totally ignored the fact that the father did hit his children. How many children he and the mother got, is absolutely non-relevant. Stop pointing that out as it means anything. "It appears that human rights are followed depending on the nationality of humans in Norway, which is wrong..." False accusation coming from an obviously troubled mind. "I think Norway destroys the definition of "father" and "mother". There, children belong to the Mighty State." Most of the fathers and mothers of modern Europe will disagree. Due to why mostly only eastern-Europeans are the ones who struggle with their parentage in Norway. Though of course, not all of you are primitive savages. Luckily. There are a lot eastern-Europeans living happily ever after too, as they manage to adopt to the modern ways. You shouldn't come here pointing nose, when Romania is what it is. Treating their weakest in the society as trash, so they have to come to the more wealthier countries in Europe to beg for money. Focus on fixing your own country first.
I wont comment on the case in this video simply because I know nothing about it. The entire "you are a satanist, CPS are satanists"-argument just proves to me how little sense it really is for me to write this answer back to you. CPS does make mistakes in certain cases, there's no denying that. But all-over and in general, people in Norway think they do a good job and that their standards are necessary. Like I wrote before; CPS will go to great lenghts in most cases to make sure the child can stay with their parents, but if they think the child is worse off living with their parents, vs. being transfered to a foster family, then the court will evaluate the case (carefully) and decide if the parents should lose custody. Yes we have strict rules here, but like I said, all-over and in general people here in Norway think they do a good job.
+popapopas Heinrich is completely right to. Eastern countries are a shithole regarding child protection. Also, consenting people should be able to have sex legally. Society does not have a say in that matter. So those liberals from Stockholm are completely right.
Same in Ireland & worldwide, they don't bother investigating. All they want to know is the parents family size & status for easy theft & trafficking. They don't even register most of the care kids that go missing on the missing persons list. Never have.
I did not make any claim about Barnevarnet, I made a claim or rather hypothesized that taking the children away from parents might cause PTSD in parents and in children. Also, such an abrupt breakage of the family might cause separation anxiety syndrome. If you do not think it is heart wrenching for the parents just watch this video... Though, obviously I agree that if these particular parents were abusive towards their children, the BV should intervene. But do not tell me that it does not do anything to the children and parents. Now, another hypothesis for you: What if the BV was wrong and these parents were not abusing there children? (We of course cannot know this from this movie) How much harm was done then? Please answer. It is not a difficult question.
First i must say, it is a heartbraking scene that is shown in this video, with the family so upset. But it dosent show the whole story. There is always a reasone why the social services gets involved. An the goal is always to protect the child. i have read alot of the international press about barnevernet. Really, it is to protect the childen for dangerious enviroments, like parents who use drugs or alcohol. Or if it is discorvered that the child might be abused or beaten. It is illiegal to beat you child in norway.. Alot of foreigners complaining about barnevernet does not seem to know this. I have grown up with two fostersiblings who where taken out of their families. One was sexually abused by her father and the other was really neglected by his family, and they where both happy to be in a safe family.. we also had contact with alot of kids in fostercare, none of theese kids where taken away without a good cause. Barnevernet is here to protect the childrens rights. Not the parents. Many kids have contact with their parents, after they are moved to fostercare.. I had a friend who gave birth at 15, her son was taken by Barnevernet because she could not care for him, and her family wasent that great. But when she got older, and was able to properly care for the kid, she got him back.. The cases i have seen in international media about kids beeing "kidnapped" where actually kids who where mistreated by their family. beaten.. And there is always paperwork, vitnesses and investigations before a child is removed. Like reports from doctors, the kindergarten or school. The grandmother in this video says that they have know for half a year that Ana (the baby) was to be removed from their home. And she is upset about not having the weekend with her before she was removed, not that she is shocked they came, just that they came a cuple of days earlier then expected... Really the text to this video is almot hillerious to someone like me who have grown up with kids from barnevernet. Have the OP been to norway??? -government wants to remove 100% of kids from therir bilogical family.. that is totall Bullshiiit! Those who are removed, are kids from troubled homes, who have been monitored for a long time.. Not kids from stable families. -norwegian mafia? Wow... where did you hear that it exista an norwegian mafia that sells kids? if there is a mafia in norway it is foreingers organizing and selling drugs. Kids removed like this are placed into fostercare.. btw.Of my two fostersiblings, one was a ethnic norwegian girl, the other a somali boy. since all of u are saying that this matters.. And yes fostercare homes are payed, so they can properly support the child. I grew up with working, well ecucated parents. To become a fostercare home, you are evalued carefully. Noone does it just to earn money. Get your facts straight people..
+Martine Lifjeld ”Dangerous environments???????????” That poor baby was living in a very tidy and clean house with people who love her so very much. how can you possibly say that it is dangerous????????? It is a hell of a crime to take children from their own loving mother and other loving relatives and take advantage of the fact that they can”t speak and put them in a stranger”s hands! A disgusting nazi people!
+popapopas ”I think you want to protect this system because you have interests in it: either you work for BV, either one of your relatives work for it, or something in between.” - Was this a reply to my previous comment? I”ve read many of your comments and I thought we are on the same side in this issue, i.e. against BV. I”m definitely not protecting it. As a Romanian citizen, I follow closely the Bodnariu family”s drama, and that”s precisely why I am so disgusted of this perverse system.
+popapopas Norwegiean pupils sing Christian songs every christmas, so what the Bodnariu family tells the Romanian media or whatever, clearly that's a lie. Even our king is Christian. I don't understand why Romanians trust the Bodnariu family so much as it seems. They clearly lie about the reasons their kids were taken away. You are talking to a Norwegian, with her full name, whom have had a very close experience with both foster children and Barnevernet. She's seen how it works, and she doesn't profit anything by telling you what she just did. And you don't believe her, but you do belive the family that has gotten their kids taken, that will profit everything by lying. Where is the logic? Why do you believe foreigners, that don't read Norwegian, that don't understand the language, that don't know our laws etc.? If you'd really care, and wished to express yourself on an higher intellectual level. Learn the language and learn what Barnevernet actually is. Don't just make conspiracy theories based on one family, and videos like this - only published for sympathy. Do you really know that the father(or the mother) haven't sexually abused his children, or do you think that's okay to do?
Who is it well known amongst? Only primitive countries like Estonia, Romania, Russia and etc. Where the family is "holy", and you can do whatever you want within your house, abuse and violence involved. Strange that there are so little noise about Barnevernet in more civilized, modern western countries? I am sure that the Bodnarius family lie because of what you tell me. It doesn't make sense. Christianity is not a valid reason, there must be something they don't tell you. And why would the family tell eveybody that they abuse their children? They would never get any sympathy then? Or do you sympathy with abusers? If what you claim were the only reason, it would have been all over the news here, and the family would have had an extremely good case in court. Read our laws, and you'll see.
I see a whole lot of Norwegians on these videos defending Barnevernet. I am a Norwegian too, and even though I will say some of these statements made towards Norwegians in general and Barnevernet are made up and hurting your own cause, I will not say "they only take children if there's a good reason", because it is simply not true. I still have my son, so this is not "I hate for them taking my child", but I've met the system and it's corrupt, deceitful and horrible. I used to believe as most Norwegians do, "no smoke without fire", "there is no reason for them to just do this, so why would they?" or "you only get the parents side of the story, so of course they are lying to get their kids back, and BV can't defend themselves". Well there can be smoke without fire, a misunderstood situation, a vindictive neighbour, a suspicious bruise ect. You know how they encourage to report for the slightest suspicion. There has been one tragic recent case where no one reported, many that was reported rightly, and many that was reported wrongly. So next one. Why would they? Well many people working in Barnevernet does so because they want to save children from their own past. What do you think they see? Do you think they meet parents with open eyes, look at them as humans and want to genuinely look at the family dynamic, or do you think they look for flaws, and ghosts from their own pasts at every turn? What about those who have worked there very long, who've seen too many cases where they were desperately needed. Do those people still meet new parents with an open mind or a cynical mind? How about people who like power, you know they exist in the police force, they also exists here, "do what I tell you, crawl and beg, or feel the power I have over you". The last one, you can not really do much about, confidentiality is a real thing. But, why is there no control organ who ensures that they are doing a proper job? There is in the police to avoid misuse of the power they posses. Barnevernet also possess a lot of power, and the individual case worker will never be in danger of being held accountable for the mistakes he or she makes. Why are the conversations not recorded on tape? Why is there no need for evidence in the reports they write? Why can an individual case worker write whatever she/he likes in the report, and no one except the parent will question it? And the parent "will of course lie, because she/he wants to keep the child", right? Why did Norway not sign the Hague convention, or UN's children's right convention? Why has Norway lost so many cases concerning Barnevernet in the European court of human rights, and then ignored the rulings? When severe cases of misconduct of an employee is revealed, why is that person not held accountable? Why do case workers give parents diagnosis and write them as facts in their reports without having a doctor examine the parent for said diagnosis? When a child is acting out, it is blamed on the biological parent, when the same child acts out even worse in foster care or an institution, it's because he/she is a problem child. Why do institutions get to treat children like criminals, put them in isolation and violate their basic human rights? Why are foster care families allowed to chose a preference about sex and age of the child they want in to their care? And if abuse is reported by the child, it is ignored in the foster family, because by the time the child is in foster care it's no longer a mistreated child, but a problem child? Why are siblings split apart? Why are close family almost never considered as a foster family? Why did they find that Barnevernet broke the Norwegian law in 87 of the 90 offices they examined? I could go on, but unless you actually care to open your eyes about the problem we do have in Norway with our child "protection" service, you probably stopped reading a long time ago, because it's just some more propaganda right? If not, feel free to check up on these facts. Something is very VERY wrong in our system, and it's allowable by one of the best thing about our country, our trusting nature.
You are SO right!!! I'm also norwegian and the CPS is very corrupt! Though the rest of my family doesn't believe me, cuz they've never dealt with them. And also, the cps rarely bother rich people. It's always the common or poor folks. Cuz they can't fight back/they're not believed or heard.
These people have some serious karma coming back to them. This has apparently spread to Serbia, where Barenevernet is take Serbian kids from their families, and who God only knows where else.
people are different. But if I had children, they would be the reason I get up everyday. And if someone wanted to take away my children, all that I have to live for, I would have nothing else to live for and nothing to lose, so I would probably take as many as possible down with me before I perished. I would set the world on fire.
You know that if you treat your bloody children well, nobody is going to take them from you, right? Only abusive parents are supposed to lose their children.
You're simply asuming I don't know anyone who has been taken either. I know both people who have worked at barnervernet, and people who have been taken by it. I'm not as oblivious as you might think. Especially considering I am actually LIVING in Norway. And where was it ever implied that the child were taken because of their traditional practises? People have the right to know, if not, they are allowed to take legal actions against the organisation. If barnevernet aren't offering them a good reason as to why they will take their children from them, then they are allowed to sue them, simple as that. Children who are taken will also not forever be separated from their parents. They are allowed to visit their parents. Some even allowed to sleep over with them. If the parents truly change their way, then they might get a second chance at raising their children. And since you mention that you're Russian, perhaps I should make you aware that Russia is trowing propaganda at multiple scandinavian countries? One of their main focus is barnevernet. What you are told isn't true. We Norwegians aren't suffering from this organisation. The only one who has to worry are abusive parents, and if the children are taken despite the parents not being abusive, they have their full right to do as stated above, take legal actions. Barnevernet aren't allowed to kidnap children. Its among our law that they are allowed to take children that are being abused away from their parents and give them a new and better home. You also don't have to act like a fucking prick. That won't win you the argument. That also doesn't make me more convinced that you should be having children.
Shame on Barnevernet, shame on Norway, shame on all Norwegians that they allow these cases to happen! Now I see that Norway is the country of regular fascists. Wanted to go there fishing but changed my mind! I don't judge based only on this video, I have read tonnes of materials regarding this topic and I was horror-struck that this happens in Norway.
I am not for Breivik sollution, but I think in a way some Norwegians are behaving like Nazis..We are currently dealing with one decent Czech family who got to the trap of Barnevernet.the EU MP-S are dealing with it, Strassbourg....barnevernet is really organization of piggs and I have a deep knowledge of the case so I do know what i am saying. I am a teacher myself for 25 years and I can tell you, if this happenned in my country or to me, the barnevernet bastards would not get near my child -) Sometimes I feel I understand (though do not approve!!!) Breivik
Seriously, watching first two minutes made me sick and worried, some really disturbing moments shown there. However, people calling Norway a nazi or Gestapo country seemed to me having gone a bit overboard. But the more I dig into Barnevernet cases the more I incline to agree with this statement. You, Norway people, should stand against such acting and demand the truth. The fact that this is not a rare case plus following the Czech case I am now sure that there is something fishy about it. Read the open letter of the boys` mum`s dad to the Norwegian embassy - a truly horrific reading. I hope the boys will be soon with their biological mum safe and sound and I hope for you, Norway, that you find the power to stop Barnevernet terror!
Foster care is a progressive industry in Norway. It is big bussines supplied by state subsidies. There are even lower demands to the fosters than to parents. So childern removed from fair good parents can be placed to fosters unless they are convicted in the last 3 years, even if their own childern have been removed from them. Many poor people in the remote regions with high unemployment accepts this job as income opportunity. This is simply fact.
These Norwaygiens kidnapped two Czech childerns of family Michalák - Michalakova (it is at Wikipedia). They separete them and they can not use they mother tongue. It was done to us also by German Nazi in Lidice. Kidnapping is evil.
Michalák case[edit] In May 2011, the two sons of of Eva Michaláková and husband who originate from the Czech republic were removed by the Child Welfare Services due to suspicion of child sexual abuse by the father; allegations denied by the couple.[10] Michaláková has since divorced her husband and continues to reside in Norway. Michaláková continues to pursue custody of her children through various channels, including the European Court of Human Rights where her complaint was rejected without prejudice for non-exhaustion of domestic remedies.[11] The case has been discussed by Miloš Zeman president of the Czech republic, "So as you can see,she divorced her husband,cos he was the one acused of abusing kids,why otherwise she would do that,as they said,she thought it will help her get her kids back faster. "
Mike Fozzer 1. The kids are brothers. Why are they separated? To prevent them from using mother tongue and make them to forget it? 2.The kids are citizens of The Czech republic. Why are they still in Norway?? Norway is inhuman nacist country - FACT!
In Nazi Germany, many people thought he was doing the right thing. The same is now in Norway. Norway will help some children, but from others make another Breiviks... Guilty is the one who doing this. Guilty is the one who just watch this and no help.
Total dislike. Why, for this well looking and being family, they have to take the baby away? I understand wide purpose for it, but still, this is the hardest pain for both: for parents ant the baby in the future it self. This is really sick political stuff. This is the wound of the society of Norway. Tons of money, but also tons of stupidity it self.
Que asco de país y de sistema encubierto de "protección" del menor. Es inhumano, cruel y ni una alimaña sería capaz de cometer semejante barbaridad. El resto de Europa debería tomar cartas en el asunto y sancionar a ese país que se hace llamar desarrollado. Que estas cosas no ocurran jamás. Pobres familias. No quiero ni imaginar que algo parecido pudiese pasarme. 😟😥
Pure fascism in Norway. My ancestors fought against fascism. Even I hate war, this is one of really good reasons why I would enlist when called. I am really shivering while hearing about such manners in Europe, I am father of 2 kids...
#1 WHY is this child being taken away??? In this PARTICULAR circumstance??? #2 I’m not there, so I don’t know, but this house is IMMACULATE, Jesus! In the U.S. children are allowed to stay in environments much less clean and organized, so, again, what is THE CHARGE HERE FOR REMOVING THE CHILD? Late to the convo, it’s now 2018, and this video is 2014, but WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
drug abuse? mental health issues? neglect? a clean home doesnt mean its healthy. the reason they are so upset in the video is because they werent supposed to pick her up at home on this day, but two days later. And the mother goes crazy when she isnt allowed to say goodbye to her child. which is the right thing to do. you always do whats best for the child and you never know what will happen if the mother grabs the child.
gert johnnys okay, I understand a clean home doesn’t necessarily mean a healthy home, but because I don’t understand the language, I don’t know what the CHARGES are for removing the child. Can you tell me?
@@rmrsgirl im sorry, but i dont know what the charges is. but what i can tell you is that the reason behind this conflict is because they came 2-3 days to early. what the grandmother says is: they came today because ny daughter reacts with anger and frustration (i do think that would be a normal reaction, but maybe she has some extra problem) and the CPS thought it would be wise to remove the Child now than later. dont know all the details, sorry
Why you taking a child from their parents,, I don't understand why Norway are taking so many children from their parents. Do you know that you changing child culture to worst one. Norway what are you using for children when you taking away from their parents
How this people can be so heartless ?! What was the main reason that they’re taking the little girl from her mother ?! I don’t understand their language but the reactions shows enough to see everything... This social workers ,police officers weren’t they kids before or haven’t got kids .. can’t they feel the pain ?! A real parents won’t hurt their babies .. doesn’t matter is it a mother or father .. God protect all the kids in the world .. hopefully and praying this little baby girl goes back to her mommy .. cause that’s not fair ..
I don’t know anything about this case, but generally, when they come assisted by police to take a child out of a home, they have a good reason to do so.
@@MrEsfranck good reason? GOOD REASON? THEY CAN TAKE AWAY YOUR CHILD JUST BECAUSE HE'S CRYING???? WTFUK IS THIS. IF SOMEONE COMES TO MY HOUSE THREATENING TO TAKE MY CHILD AWAY FROM ME - I'LL SHOOT THEM,THEN GRAB MY CAR AND RUN AWAY FROM SUCH A PLACE
The mother seems incidentally to not want to protests against the power of the police and "law". She only asks to say goodbye to her child - her life - and gets a no! It's heartless. I could understand it if she was psychotic and would fight for the child, but this seems to not be so. CPS in Norway always brings police, and no - they seldom have a good reason. If they cared for the children, they would not let them go without clothes and nourishing food in their new homes. They could even give the families some help if needed, instead both the parents and childs life is destroyed, supported by taxpayers money. It's $$$ all over, the industry here is worth 3,75 billion dollars [30 bn NOK].
+popapopas Not necessary. If obvious signs of parents being bad are detected police should have right to separate, alcohol and abusive behavior of parents posses danger to children at any moment so separation must be immediate.
+Christopher Storvik In Czech Republic we have 40 years experience with communistic/socialistic totalitarian regime. We know how freedom can easily be lost and that freedom is much more important than so called "welfare" and order. It is scary for us to see how western Europe and specially Scandinavia is happily heading toward totality. Scandinavian christiano/communistic model is based on the presumption that their citizens are so inapt, incompetent and stupid that they are unable to care for their lives themselves. That they need strong supervision form state institutions. The people gradually find themselves controlled by uncontrollable bureocrats, they become a homogenized mass of sheeps which are only allowed to happily consume, defecate and pay taxes. I am so happy to live in Czech Republic. We can freely bring up own children. Our children belong to parents, not to the state. We can tell them full truth, that grandma is sick, that they will die one day, that money must hardly be earned, that world can be dangerous. We let them play with fire, experience the world. In short: we let them know the world as it is which we believe makes them self-reliant independant people imune to indoctrination. We can criticize and controll our bureocrats, eventually send them to jail. We want our bureocrats to be a technical support to people, not the other way around. We can freely speak. We can loudly say that god does not exist and communists are criminals. We can freely drink alcohol because we know what alcohol is and what it can do to us. We decide. It is our own responsibility to drink reasonably. Offcourse, If you missbehave you are punished. If somebody is an idiot it is his own decision and responsibility, eventually he is eliminated from the gene pool by natural selection. We do not have to worry what other people think about us. We are not under constant surveilance of neighbours, teachers, doctors. We asscociate with other people only if we want to. Not from fear of being ostraciczed by the society. This creates strong relationships, not a herd of sheeps. Christiano-socialism is European cancer. It takes power and responsibility from peoole to a narrow group of ideologists. It is actualy very simmilar to islam by its desire to control every aspect of peoples lives. This ultimately leads to orwelian/sharia totality. We know it because we have had it. So my dear inteligent norweigan guy, if you can take this lesson from a retarded slavonic guy you still have a chance to make the world a better place :-)
Norway is one of the most free and democratic countries in the world. you have no idea what you're talking about. if you want an example of a country heading towards totalitarianism look at the UK, the US and Russia.
+Christopher Storvik Haha. Norway is no way a role model for democracy. A constitutional monarchy with pathetic immitation of a parliament: www.newsinenglish.no/2011/01/14/norways-brand-of-democracy/
+Kryštof Žáček if by that you mean one of the most well functioning parliaments in the world today where politicians actually represent the people, respect each other and try to find consensus, then yeah. compare that with the wholly dysfunctional parliament of the US and Lebanon where practically nothing is done due to endless infighting, or to Russia where it just exists to say yes to everything putin decrees.
Bare fortell barnevernet at din familie er den beste, uansett hva.. Ikke si noe annet uansett hva.. Du er lykkelig og Barnevernet gjør deg ulykkelig.. Hold på den uansett hva.
The local Norwegian child protective cervices engages psychologists who basically have the cpc as a main income source, on a 'case by case' basis; psychologists whom the cpc refers to as "independent specialists" but who are nothing of the sort. No such psychologist says yes when asked to represent a private Norwegian citizen to assess their case, naturally because they know they would not be called upon by the cpc to represent them next time around. INDIVIDUAL cpc-office-workers CULTIVATE their 'relations' with these psychologists - who most often are nothing but MASTER-DEGREE graduates carrying the title "Psychologist", and the latter goes for the so-called "Socionomes" (sosionomer) too - family relation 'specialists'!!! This is a factual description about Norway. It is full of UNDER-EDUCATED, dangerously incompetent abusers of power, with no central government to control the local abusers of power. The central government has no control other than macro-economically, the real control of every individual is in the hands of the LOCAL office-workers whom the law give full freedom of INTERPRETATION of the law and the 'officially transmitted general guidelines' (which only stipulates general ideas). And these local education-less individuals do indeed make a MOCKERY of social administration. A PhD in Pedagogy and Philosophy
The exactly the same procedures happen in UK, Germany, France, and The Netherlands. Actually the really independent psychologists are being sued by social workers with main goal to strip them of their licence.
This is sick ! I've heard about many similar cases. For my this is inhuman , I am glad I don't live in Norway, I thought that in my country law not the best , but comparing to this I think it is very normal. I am glad I don't live in Norway or Sweden or Germany ( I know it is similar there ) . People don't go there with your children , you loose them !
Question for child services in Norway - if you really care about children, if the child is over 3 years old and can speak any language, take an intrepeter if needed, and ask child himself/herself if he wants new mum and dad, or if they want and love their biological parents. Child's opinions is most important opinions in families.
The mother seems incidentally to not want to protests against the power of the police and "law". She only asks to say goodbye to her child - her life - and gets a no! It's heartless. I could understand it if she was psychotic and would fight for the child, but this seems to not be so. CPS in Norway always brings police, and no - they seldom have a good reason. If they cared for the children, they would not let them go without clothes and nourishing food in their new homes. They could even give the families some help if needed, instead both the parents and childs life is destroyed, supported by taxpayers money. It's $$$ all over, the industry here is worth 3,75 billion dollars [30 bn NOK].
Statement made by lawyer Marius Reikerås on January 19,2016: "Marius Bodnariu is not allowed to see neither his two sons, nor his two daughters. He can only see the baby. But in reality,he is given no time with his baby. Only Ruth is allowed to see her sons, but neither she is allowed to see her daughters. And her time with her sons, is limited to only a few hours per month, and under strict public surveilance The eldest daughter has written a letter, where she clearly expresses that she misses both her parents and her siblings. As well as the rest of her family. The siblings are split in three different foster homes. And they live on secret adresses. Not even the Romanian government knows where they are. The letter from the daughter, was tried to be kept secret by the public officials,and was not presented when the case was dealt with in the County Board. I have only have one way to express this: This is crime against humanity. Thank you for sharing.These atrocities must be made known to the world."
This horrific crime is gong on twice as much in Denmark! All theese so called "child saviors" are going to burn in hell some day, and on that day, I won't be sad!
Woody Rooper Yes.. I know, and I truly feel for you...! We have two children taken away from us, and only because of psychology.. nothing else. Here in Denmark about 90% of reasons for removals is because of theese so called tests done by corrupt psycologist, about your parenting skills. It's very evil indeed! Have you read Carlos Morales book about this child industry? He was a former social worker in your country, and he has some very interesting things to say about all thats going on.
Yeah, and novodays, especially in Norway. I never denied its presence, I was just shocked that it has been turned into business in a country perceived as a modern society.
Now I just have to provide a response to all the nonsense being written here. CPS in Norway (barnevernet) has a job to do. This job is to help children. yes, from time to time they take children away from parents (often with good reason) and yes sometimes they make big mistakes. But we are all human are we not? myself have been getting help from the CPS since I was seven, I'm now nineteen. if it were not for CPS I might not have been here today. so please take into consideration that i am from Norway , and i have a good experience with CPS om this country. ps. they never took me away from my parents so this does NOT happen to everyone . dont belive everything you read or see online . peace out
+popapopas seriusly , i am from Norway , i do know the facts better than you. and they dont kidnap anybody ! as you can see in this video the police are at the home with the cps . how the hell can they do anything illegal with the police right there ? the things people say on social media effects the people who actualy need help from cps. PLEASE stop talking about stuff you dont know anything about. get your facts straight dude.
+popapopas and also , keep in mind that cps cant say anything to protect themself . they are not allowed to speak of any case they have. and they dont make more money by taking children . they do it becouse they think its the best thing for the child. also the parents are allowed to see the kids , if they behave like adults should around a kid.
+Madeleine Eriksen let me guess.... you also are a deffender of gays? very sick country. here we started to reject and boicot all the products from norway and in the next days the whole world will rejects all the products coming from that nordic countrys. better ask God for mercy, to forgive all the sins in that country.
THE BABYBANK of NORWAY In Norway there is a real BABYBANK named Småbarnsbanken. This bank is owned by the state and administrated by the CPS. It works almost like an ordinary bank. But instead of using money as capital , this bank use babies from 0-2 years of age. The CPS receive their capital of babies, by legally kidnapping them, mainly from poor pregnant single moms. Then the CPS place the babies into an account in the BABYBANK. After the cases has been trough court, the CPS give the babies to other people who want to adopt them. The interests for the biological parents are close to zero prosent. If the biological parents accept the adoption of their beloved child,the CPS sometimes let them see their child once or twice a year.If they do not accept adoption the parents are not allowed to see their child.And the capital- the child-just like money in a bankaccount-are of course not asked about; who should be its legal owner or how would it like to be spent. NICE or CRUEL?
يا حيُّ يا قيوم برحمتك نستغيث أصلح لنا شأننا كله و لا تَكِلنا إلى نفسنا طَرفة عين حسبنا الله و نِعم الوكيل لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله #أوقفوا_خطف_أطفالنا #اوقفوا_خطف_اطفالنا_السويد #اين_حق_لينا #مجرمون_بصمت #Lex_Donia_Hassan #lex_donia_hassan #slutakidnappavårabarn #Stopkidnappingourchildren
In Norway !!!!!!! really I couldn't finish the video. this is crazy and and no one will takes care of children like their parents even if the parents were poor if u want to help the kids you should to give some money to their families because nothing can be better alternative than their moms and dads
A Romanian immigrant to Norway had her child taken from her because he sang Christian song in school, which "means that he was facing Christian indoctrination"WTF?
Graiovski Tek because Norway is atheistic government and think religion is child abuse and they justify to take kids from religious parent. Does answers your question ?
I am sorry, but I believe this to be bullshit, because this is clearly against the fucking law that dictates when and why a child care might be taken over by the state. (§4-12 bvl.)
It is just a hypothetical situation and it is apparent to everyone who reads your comments that it is you who does not care about a welfare of the child. Let me explain to you one more time because maybe you do not comprehend English well enough. 1. PTSD- Post traumatic stress disorder a)someone who undergoes extreme stress such as parent-child separation can become sick even though they have never been sick before b) It goes both ways child can become sick too c) if you do not believe that a child can get sick from a separation enxiety you should read about the "glass girl" from Norway who was taken from her mother d) we have nothing to discuss further if you do not know what PTSD and separation anxiety are
+Andrew Labudzki I know what that is. I do read papers. The reason a child get separated from its parents is to prevent damage on the child. Either physically or mentally. Not the opposite. You don't know anything.
+Kommentøren You should not "read papers", you should read peer-reviewed-articles to understand what I said, but this requires an academic level of English. ;)
Andrew Labudzki Your academic level of English doesn't make you right. And the fact that you only choose to argument on my English level(which is undeniable understandable), shows that you don't really have any relevant argument. And because what you claim about Barnevernet aren't anywhere close to reality, I doubt you have read any real peer-reviewed-articles in this matter.
+Kommentøren Unfortunately, the language is clearly a barrier here, because I did not make any claims about Barnevarnet. Everything I said was just hypothetical, to make you think, but it is impossible. Thinking has a colossal future for you. It was great talking to you, you should definitely look at the possibilities though.
+Andrew Labudzki Bullshit. If there is any language barrier, it's because you don't understand Norwegian and aren't able to get an understanding of what Barnevernet really is and how they work. As I said, you don't know anything and your hypothesis isn't anything else than fantasy and exaggeration. A claim is pretty the same as a hypothesis… HAHAHA. Academic English my ass. Get a grip, dude.
The Barvevern kiddnaps three children from their families everyday of our lives. Not all the abductions can be neccessay, surly not! It horrer, and awfully wrong toward mankind of all nations! We have to stand united toward the norwegian politicians who are human right criminals, i'm sorry to say. Neverth less the TRUTH!
Can you see the woman, and they home its clean and nice,. Do you think they are bad for the kids yet they are so pretty to the little pet. Wtf is wrong with this world stand up and destroy those bastards.
Thank God That we have Guns in USA
+helenpol Lol, yea. This shit will make any democrat secretly happy that we have 2nd amendment.
+helenpol 100%... This world needs RESET!
+helenpol Then you'll get arrested for shooting an officer, and your child will still be without their parents.
@@Lou500 Agreed. The situation would only be way worse. Only idiots think that everything can be solved with guns..... 😒 look at what happened at the congress. Puh.
Im from Norway. But yeah, this HAS to stop. This is unfair.
Do something, people! If you just sit there shaking heads, nothing will change. Fight for your rights! I like the nature of your country, but your laws are all against you. :/
Fucking nazis, shame on you!
@@MrJmtsalou its like leberborn (or how you spell it)
This is hell on earth for parents, I can't belive this really happens in a country considered civilised, a child is not an animal, it's a human being.. shame! I have no words to describe what I'm feeling after seeing this film
Omg... what a disgusting country with disgusting laws... I hope the mother was not separated from her children permanently. What a heart wrenching cry!
Noruega es uno de los paises más felices del mundo. Sin embargo, dices que es un país asqueroso 😂
@STLY La tristeza de una familia no hace que los demás estén igual de tristes
It is much more serious - it means that basic legal norms - sanctity of one s home, habeas corpus, authorities being able to wnter without a warrant - are absent in Norway, and those norms are fundamental to democracy.
Svarte FAEN.
Bloody hell. This country is so fucked up in any way. The Norwegian social service can burn in hell!
My sister was taken away from my mother, because they thought she was a drug addict, which she's not. People have been lying for over 20 years. I'm so mad at them. Is there one thing I know about my mom, is that she is not a drug addict.
But she's been drinking heavy after they ruined her life. But she's now back on track, thanks to me. And I'm so bloody happy to be 21 years old, so they can't do shit to me.
BARNEVERNET NEEDS TO BE REFORMED
barnevernet needs to be bombed
It needs to be taken down
you have to see the swedish social services
Everything works very simply.
If someone saw that your kid was a bit different, for example, doesn't eat norwegian traditional food, has different point of view, is smarter or dumber than ''the normal'', doesn't wear ''normal'' clothes or acts differently than every other blond girl or boy that are afraid to stand out from the crowd, your own kid will be kidnapped and sent to a ''normal'', ''usual'', ''obedient'' family where a youngster will be forced to be exactly the same to the other around.
Is it bad for a kid that he's different? No, that is awesome.
Is it bad for the nation? Oh yes, his parents are criminals and they have to be punished so hard that they want to kill themselves.
How else could government grow their own sheeps?
And how can someone who looks from a way different perspective decide what's the best for a neighbour's child?
The problem is with everyone of us, dear people. Even the ''kidnappers'' are human beings but they are being fully controlled by some other people who pay them.
Everyone can become very easily controlled. So stop for a second and run through your thoughts a bit. Are you a good person? Do your wishes come from your heart or they come from the social need? Is there anyone else who does the thinking job for you..?
But yes, it's good to live in rich countries such as Norway. But you've just seen the price people are paying everyday. They have to loose themselves and have to fit in - OR ELSE...
that can't be true, not in this world, wow
that means DO NOT live in Norway...let the perverts enjoy themselves and do not give them children..I wanted to go there for holiday, But NEVER..I have children..
What a shame, the police put their power on a woman . How can you not feel remorse? Are you not afraid of God to punish you all ??
I'm Muslim women and this is really heartbreaking 💔
What if that woman is going to grab a kitchen knife? I saw my mom when she pointing on my father.
Nobody afraid of god. They don't need one.
@@patriciaszabo8015 Wtf you keep replying shit around here? This is fucked up and you're fucked up too
Now shut up
I can't believe it. They are just sitting and crying and making record. Why don't they fighting? I would use eveything as weapon. Glas, desk, chair, knife, bottles. They wouldn't just walk away alive from my house.
Rita Farkas Yeah, I bet that would be in your favor.
How can all of you watch this video, and based on this video alone, determine how the mother have been treating and caring for her daughter her whole life? For all you know, she could be abusing the baby. You know one side of the story, and one side only. You know nothing about how the baby has been treated. Nothing!
And for all the crazy people talking about how we need other countries genes and what not, you need help!
Norway is disappointing.
Laura Gafer So you know the background? It looks terrible, but there is always a reason.
Alexander Hansen alexander, lots of documentals talk about it. Absurd reasons are behind. I understand if moms are directly harming the kids. The situation in Norway is well known in many countries.
Its funny, they take hundreds of children away from their parents, and at the same time, Norway frees murderers after 12 years in prison... incredible.
And the world looks Norway as such a perfect country.. I guess NOT 👎🏿
I live in Norway and if this can happend to a child then im angry.
Stop this Norway children need to be with their parents.
Not just in Norway. Here in Quebec (Canada) is called dpj and they took 3 of my children this way and finally took the baby at the hospital. They took my 4 babies.
To stop this you have to kill those responsible or it will never stop!
@@Spring_Autumn why? ;(
@@katinakochovska9242 doesn't matter why, the children stay with their PARENTS no matter what!!! the rest is satanism !!!
i wonder how these people can sleep at night after destroying families and damaging children forever, no respect for them and i have to live here just because i made the mistake to have my child here...
What a scandal. Norway, you are weird!
aren't they sooooo progressive! the idea of progress is less than 200 yrs old btw....
This coutry is a shit
BARNEVERNET IS GESTAPO !
i hope these policeman's and laws makers will go to prison, when Norway peoples will get rid out of them
Children should not be removed from families without a well justified reason. Social services making up lies and introducing severe bias in reports is unconscionable and should not be allowed.
The cops even look depressed WTF! That place looks clean and the baby seemed happy and she had help with her. What's the problem! Well I can say this God will treat you as you treat others! So doesn't matter who's orders your following. Boycott the fucking system and find a better profession! This is wrong and your faces show it on every one!
Seems like Norway is really a messed corner of Europe. The Czech case is absolutely shocking one, especially when I read that a mother of those two kids was "kindly" allowed to speak Czech when she could finally visit her kids, after a two years of "Norwegisation" kid could barely speak Czech.
Long story short Norway approves and support genocide
Streetway ST the same thing is happening in Finland.
All parents whose children was taken from that "social workers"must unite and fight them !
No. I prefer healthy children staying away from awful abusive parents, thank you very much.
ErectusCuntus - Proof?
what if Barnevernet workers made a mistake? would the pay for it with their lifes?
My heart goes with you .. as a mother I feel your pain.. I cried through the video..
After the protests in Sweden and the awareness it brought .. there is no excuse . Some laws MUST change!!
It's very sad to see when they were tasking from her, as father I wouldn't recommend someone to go to live in Norway
For the mother it would be so traumatic. They would be afraid to have kids if they have to give them up
If you raise a child 0-18 in Norway, you should be given a medal
I was born in Norway and lived there For my first eight years of my life. My family is polish, so it's obvious that parents and adults in general like to drink a few beers on a special day. They didn't get horribly drunk because children were around. Yet, there was this one neighbour that reported to the police that there's pathology going on in our house. Which wasn't true. True pathology would happen in the house next us. The husband would slap the wife in the face and do other unacceptable things. We had to move to Poland because of that neighbour who falsely accused my parents of being pathological. It's so frustrating.
I am norwegian and this is our reality. Its a milion dollar industry and everybody knows they most be carefull for the cps.
this absolutely outrageaous,how can this happen in Norway ???????
+Richard Emmanuel Marius Reikerås he is standing for us all.... Families who have been torn apart do to religion, meticulous things..... He is Born and raised in Norway......
It happens in the US all the time
I'm from the US, I have never heard of it being so *extreme*. I know in the USA you are granted a fair trial and with a paid lawyer or a free one. In Norway you do not get a trial and children are NOT allowed to go to the next relative family EVER and within 2 months without DUE PROCESS, they are being adopted and that is why Norway has been found guilty 4 times by the Europes Human Rights Society. US is not perfect and I am angry for that too. I don't children should be taken unless there is a real court order and atleast given a chance for therapy, and passed to next of kin, not be *sold* like a freaking trafficking!
Too bad that people don't live in fear of God anymore because one day...judgement day will come.....
This is a disgusting system, Norwegians should stand up for the innocent parents. I have heard that your child can be taken into care without much evidence that they are being hurt physically or mentally.
Your child can be taken away on any made-up excuse.
@@hornet5761 "lack of parenting skills"
Yeah, more children for the LGBT community to mess up ... sorry, that's too much, I have no compassion to fake anymore :@
Social Workers = Gestapo
with police contribution. The norwegian police implementing.
sarcastic: Welcome to socialism... its for your own good.. :(
Having their children taken away is a terrible thing, but most child abuses actually occur within family.
You're saying Barnevernet "kidnaps" children, but why don't abusive parents (brothers, uncles, cousins, grandparents) think of consequences before abusing their children (brothers, cousins, grandchildren) ?
Go investigate children that were placed in foster care and see how many children are molested in foster care. But those stories never make the news. There is video on UA-cam with a 15 yr old placed in foster care . She tried to commit suicide 5 times after being kidnapped she was locked up in a closet by foster parents and when she reported it to social worker they called her a liar and never came to investigate. You are an agent for bv doing damage control for them. But by now the whole world knows your attrocities and crimes against humanity. Go kiss bvs behind cause they are not gonna function like this too long. More and more people are finding out the truth. The children were checked by multiple doctors and in spite of bv doctors X-rays cat scans didn't show any evidence of abuse. If abuse were proven they would have been in jail not allowed to work as nurse in pediatric you low iq person. In any crimes if dna is not proven case is dismissed. With bv breastfeeding became illegal. Children sleeping in same room with parents bc of either disability or Indian custom is illegal. Where the hell do you kidnappers draw the line ? You can defend your independent illegal agency all you want. The proof is in the pudding and by now too much evidence was brought to light against your illegal agency.
+diaphilm with bodnariu family was no abuse.only correcting children but this is for nazibarnevernet enough to rob 5 children without warning,without a time of overseeing the family if they would chanche their behaviour. gestapo barnevernet have done more harm then good in lot of families.
Noone has right to take kid from its family.
Not even from - according to law - grossly children abusing and neglecting family?
Tell me more about your ideas.
Damn fucking right! I got sent away with "Barnevernet" when i was 13. Worst year of my freakin messed up life. The government here are insane. I spent 1 year in a foster home with psychopaths who tried to minupilate me to think they where my NEW PARENTS. I said this to the police (and barnevernet) and they did not care at all. They just took me as a little confused child. Well I was not! My life got REALLY screwed up because of them. Now that I'm finally 15. Im starting to get better....
The Beatle
I hope you will get more better, survive your "screwed" childhood and leave that messed country where kids belong to the state.
Why are they restraining her still? The workers have taken the baby and are surely long gone now. Why are the police still there?
@Johnny Doe Haters (like you) just be jealous of my beautiful cocoa brown skin. It doesn't crack or burn and the sun loves me unlike that pale purulent coating of pus you call skin. Go back to your dark, dank and musty cave, creature!
Think how the child’s mom feels after abducting her child ,
That's why people need to have guns at home
You would only be charged with murder and sent to jail, and they would move the kid far away from you, not letting you know where in the country, so that you'd never have any contact with your child ever again.
@@LinniFight try this shit in usa, you have a civil war.
On the mothers facebook she wrote that she got a message from the police saying they were coming. She was told the day before they came, as well as the same day, so this did not come out of nowhere. The mother also lost her other child some years back and after watching her for 6 months they decided it was best to take Ana (the baby) as well. As far as I know, the mother have a history with abusing drugs (not sure if she was when the video was filmed).
It was not the police who decided to take away the child, as they said if you could understand norwegian - they knew nothing about the case. They were calm and there to prevent any disturbance and harm. Hence why they had to keep the mother away; she was being aggressive, both physical and verbal. If the mother had handled the situation a little better (and I know that is hard, but she knew they were coming), she probably would be allowed to say goodbye. She was also suffering mentally. She wrote several things, including the name and address to the people who looked out for Ana after she was taken, on facebook.
Barnevernet is not there for the parents, but for the children. And the most ridiculous thing I've read; No, they do not earn money for each child they take away!!! They have a normal paid job, with an hourly wage.
And traditional families? It does not matter what color, religion or ethnicity. All children is treated equal and they do not choose who they take based on any of that.
Yes, they do make mistakes, but most of the time they have saved children from what could've ended very badly (have seen a few of those cases as well, and then all of the sudden everyone asks where BV was to prevent that).
And if you see the ratings of guns and gunshots in Norway and compare them to other countries, I believe we are doing just fine without them.
Just remember that this is just one side of the case and if we had known every little detail maybe you would see things differently.
+M. C.N. excellent point. These people whose children are taken away are FUCKED forever. How can they live like that knowing their own children are taken away? The could be taken away temporarily and that is a good reason for them to correct their problems but Barnevernet is giving no options of ever taking their children back. This is barbaric. Who are they to choose for somebody else? Who chooses the foster parents? This is like playing god (im not a believer in that sense...) with poor people's lives. On top of their emotional problems this agency is throwing them in a whole they would never be able to get out from. How human is that?
+kukuvaldi
+M. C.N
Actually, many children are given back to the parents bc the parents proved that they are better and can take care of the child. Yes, I get that it is traumatic for the parents to loose the child, but it is also traumatic for the children to live with the biological parents when they are in no shape to take care of them. And the mother in this video got a warning 6 months before the child was taken away. She could've done something to prevent it.
It seems like people are not understanding that BV is first and foremost about children and protecting them. It does not matter how sad and affected the parents are, when the children are abused and/or not taken care of and therefore will be better off in another family. And if the parents are that affected, shouldn't that be a motivation to get better and hopefully get custody of the child later. It is not BV job to help the parents to get rid of their physical or mental problems, but there are lots of other organisations that can.
+popapopas Just because you live in a country who think and judge people based on race and how the look, does not mean you know anything about what these views are in Norway. We've come longer than to "pick" children based on what they look like. I believe the romanian case is a very good example of that, even though BV did a mistake. Of course there are more ethical Norwegians taken away, but that is because there is more Norwegians living in Norway!!!
+popapopas I have no opinion or interest in what country you live in. And I and everyone else know that BV can and do make mistakes, but most of the time they do make the right decision and help those who really need help.
+90Aliba I strongly doubt that they make the right decision if there are so many cases of ”abuse” over children in Norway.
Very strange video. Do citizens in Norway have not firearms to protect themselves?
Інтернет-портал Глобал_Аналітик Barley anyone in Norway have firearms, and if they do, its not for protection but for hunting, like shotguns and huntingrifles. But even if they had guns, youre suggesting they shoot the cops? Murder seems to be the best solution for you?
Wrong! Norway is the eleventh most wepound dence country in the world. 1 318 004 registered legal firearms. www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/q1R1g/Et-land-fullt-av-vapen-og-regler
It would not be a murder but protection of family against Barnevernet workers (read as invaders)
@@lyovazi8533 it doesn't work like that. You would be charged for murder and sent to jail and you would never see your kid again. Ever.
God have mercy please destroy this bandit - Gestapo system.................. O GOD HAVE MERCY ON THIS LOVING MOTHER CHILDREN AND FAMILY !!!!
And you know everything abot this situation.?
Did you have an aneurysm on your keyboard?
I'm so sad and angry to see what these evil idiots are doing in the name of child protection
And this bloody country has the unmitigated gall to criticize other countries' human rights records and pretends to be some kind of arbiter - DISGUSTING - a criminal state premised on child trafficking
how can those social workers sleep at night ?
Bet they sleep well knowing they saved children from abuse.
do you get paid to comment on this video ? your channel is empty and you are commenting here for months
Bet a government agent wouldn't subscribe to all those other channels then. Man would it be great if I was paid for doing this, but sadly I'm not.
ErectusCuntus - So ignorant of you. Kids there get TAKEN AWAY for such absurd reasons such as having a parent pulling off a wobbly tooth or leaving them home alone for a few hours OR EVEN BEING TOO FAT OR SKINNY. Those reasons are not "abuse".
Link me solid proof from reliable sources of just 1 of theese things, thank you.
I'm a Norwegian and I'm appalled. Barnevernet has been acting like a modern version of Gestapo for way too long already. The fact of the matter is that it's a billion dollar industry in Norway, where private profiteers are able to enrich themselves with the blessings of government officials. How so.? Because if a family or single mother faces hardships, it's considered an expense to the local social services if they were to render any support. If, on the other hand, the children are removed from the parents, social services will receive $$$$$ from the federal government. One can only speculate as to the extent of it, but I tend to believe that quite a few people up the food-chain, have their hands deeply planted in the honey jar here.
Greit nok at d kan virke 'onskapsfult', men mesteparten av tia bli ikke ongan tad ut a hjemene, men de bli hjolpe i sit eget hjem.
I believe it goes deeper than money.
Johnny Doe english 100
Johnny Doe Norway is the most advanced seafaring nation, our GDP per capita is way higher than yours, and our quality of life is ten times higher than in the US. Remind me again who is the lowlife here
@@ultra_axe7812 You are. I am from Europe, western-europe. Norway is a rich country and a beautiful one. This the dark secret of Norway Barneverner.
Looks like the social services do more harm than good, causing so much trauma
This is the only way for norvegian homosexuals to get a baby.
Rafael Ángel Milanés Echemendía as funny it may sound it most likely one of the reasons, besides of fresh genes.
Yes, Slavic genes are very popular in Scandinavia... Not.
Dust Bowl
Yes they are popular, majority of children that are snatched are from slavic families. And reason for it because slavs have strong blood. While norwegian blood is very bad, that's why there are so many disabled children born in Norway, It's a dying nation.
*****
Slavs aren't dying at all. Look at your country, it's full of in-breading and physically disabled new borns. That's why you steal many slavic children, because they have strong genes, while your genes are one of the worlds weakest.
ilcool90 You do understand that you took the bait?
I always thought of Norway as one of the best countries with the best people, but this is a disgrace. Being that my child you would be sorry for this. Very sorry.
Mark Lenee every country have their bad sides
wallahwhoop holland doesnt
wallahwhoop But not such! Family is sacred!
Din Dun They have you, I think that´s enough.
Aasatruful I'm not Dutch .not even close
What exactly do these "traditonal" families do that is considered abusive? I'm no taking sides until I know the whole story.
Bernevernet must stop to exist! The Bodnariu, a romanian family lost the same way all 5 children they had.
It's violation of Convention on the Rights of the Children.
All social workers all across Europe are violating this convention every single day.
They are just sure that they can get away with that.
In Norway there are clear guidelines for when and if childcare can remove the parent's custody of their children. Psychologists, social workers and doctors are helping in evaluating each and every case. And the general rule is always the biological principle, that the child should grow up with their biological parents. If living with their parents severly hampers the future life and development of the child (if the parents have psychological disorders, drug-abuse etc. then the law is quite clear; the child must be removed to secure it's own future. Understandable this is seen as outrageous in some countries (especially in orthodox/catholic countries, where removing children from their families are something you almost never hear of). Sadly this is necessary in some cases, and though it may seem heartless to a lot of you, think about this; would you wish for any child to live in a household where they might be the subject of abuse, or witnessing drug-abusing parents? Not saying that this is the case here in the vid, but Norwegian ChildCare never take such cases lightly, and the bar for child removal is still quite high.
It's a matter of what point of view you have. I have two cousins who have had a child removed because they were simply unfit to be parents. That's not the excuse CPS had of course, but they did several evaluations and interviews before making their decision. The evaluations took almost a year. These things are never taken lightly, and in both cases here they offered classes for how they could be better parents. 1 of them showd up at these classes and the other just did not care. In any case, they were both seen as a "danger" to the children's development and security. The entire familiy (mine included) agreed to the decision, except my cousins of course. I know a psychologist who works closely with CPS in my current hometown (Bergen) and he tells me of extremely strict but firm rules for child removal. The statistics may be high in Norway compared to other countries, but most of the population and the government sees this as necessary! And you can say a lot of orthodox and catholic countries, but child abuse/domestic abuse is way more prominent there than in for example Norway, Denmark and Iceland. Sweden and Finland is really bad though, as is France and England. But countries such as Romania, Lithuania and Slovakia have plenty of issues as well. In fact on average, eastern-european countries score lower than European countries. Just because the demands of Norwegian CPS is higher than most countries, that does not mean Norway should lower theirs.
+popapopas Its funny reading all your comments when you're talking against your own arguments.
"Maybe they do the right things with Norwegian families, and they protect those children who really need protection. But they just commit abuse with immigrants."
And a few comments down you write;
"... what is happening is not identifying children who need protecting, it is about identifying children who can be easily adopted.
The little girl in this movie is while, beautiful, very young to be not attached to her biological mother. She is perfect from all these points of view."
Make up your mind.
+popapopas First of all, it's not the oil itself that have made our welfare. It's how we've managed it.
You still talk about the Bodnarius case like you know every detail. Though you have been proven wrong several times. At first you totally ignored the fact that the father did hit his children. How many children he and the mother got, is absolutely non-relevant. Stop pointing that out as it means anything.
"It appears that human rights are followed depending on the nationality of humans in Norway, which is wrong..."
False accusation coming from an obviously troubled mind.
"I think Norway destroys the definition of "father" and "mother". There, children belong to the Mighty State."
Most of the fathers and mothers of modern Europe will disagree. Due to why mostly only eastern-Europeans are the ones who struggle with their parentage in Norway. Though of course, not all of you are primitive savages. Luckily. There are a lot eastern-Europeans living happily ever after too, as they manage to adopt to the modern ways.
You shouldn't come here pointing nose, when Romania is what it is. Treating their weakest in the society as trash, so they have to come to the more wealthier countries in Europe to beg for money.
Focus on fixing your own country first.
I wont comment on the case in this video simply because I know nothing about it. The entire "you are a satanist, CPS are satanists"-argument just proves to me how little sense it really is for me to write this answer back to you. CPS does make mistakes in certain cases, there's no denying that. But all-over and in general, people in Norway think they do a good job and that their standards are necessary. Like I wrote before; CPS will go to great lenghts in most cases to make sure the child can stay with their parents, but if they think the child is worse off living with their parents, vs. being transfered to a foster family, then the court will evaluate the case (carefully) and decide if the parents should lose custody. Yes we have strict rules here, but like I said, all-over and in general people here in Norway think they do a good job.
+popapopas Heinrich is completely right to. Eastern countries are a shithole regarding child protection. Also, consenting people should be able to have sex legally. Society does not have a say in that matter. So those liberals from Stockholm are completely right.
Same in Ireland & worldwide, they don't bother investigating. All they want to know is the parents family size & status for easy theft & trafficking. They don't even register most of the care kids that go missing on the missing persons list. Never have.
Same in Israel unfortunately. And psychologists hurt the children + survivors or child abuse
I did not make any claim about Barnevarnet, I made a claim or rather hypothesized that taking the children away from parents might cause PTSD in parents and in children. Also, such an abrupt breakage of the family might cause separation anxiety syndrome. If you do not think it is heart wrenching for the parents just watch this video... Though, obviously I agree that if these particular parents were abusive towards their children, the BV should intervene.
But do not tell me that it does not do anything to the children and parents.
Now, another hypothesis for you:
What if the BV was wrong and these parents were not abusing there children? (We of course cannot know this from this movie)
How much harm was done then? Please answer. It is not a difficult question.
Ah yes, these people seem perfectly sane. Imagine growing up in conditions like this.
First i must say, it is a heartbraking scene that is shown in this video, with the family so upset. But it dosent show the whole story. There is always a reasone why the social services gets involved. An the goal is always to protect the child.
i have read alot of the international press about barnevernet. Really, it is to protect the childen for dangerious enviroments, like parents who use drugs or alcohol. Or if it is discorvered that the child might be abused or beaten. It is illiegal to beat you child in norway.. Alot of foreigners complaining about barnevernet does not seem to know this.
I have grown up with two fostersiblings who where taken out of their families. One was sexually abused by her father and the other was really neglected by his family, and they where both happy to be in a safe family.. we also had contact with alot of kids in fostercare, none of theese kids where taken away without a good cause. Barnevernet is here to protect the childrens rights. Not the parents. Many kids have contact with their parents, after they are moved to fostercare.. I had a friend who gave birth at 15, her son was taken by Barnevernet because she could not care for him, and her family wasent that great. But when she got older, and was able to properly care for the kid, she got him back..
The cases i have seen in international media about kids beeing "kidnapped" where actually kids who where mistreated by their family. beaten.. And there is always paperwork, vitnesses and investigations before a child is removed. Like reports from doctors, the kindergarten or school.
The grandmother in this video says that they have know for half a year that Ana (the baby) was to be removed from their home. And she is upset about not having the weekend with her before she was removed, not that she is shocked they came, just that they came a cuple of days earlier then expected...
Really the text to this video is almot hillerious to someone like me who have grown up with kids from barnevernet. Have the OP been to norway???
-government wants to remove 100% of kids from therir bilogical family.. that is totall Bullshiiit! Those who are removed, are kids from troubled homes, who have been monitored for a long time.. Not kids from stable families.
-norwegian mafia? Wow... where did you hear that it exista an norwegian mafia that sells kids? if there is a mafia in norway it is foreingers organizing and selling drugs. Kids removed like this are placed into fostercare..
btw.Of my two fostersiblings, one was a ethnic norwegian girl, the other a somali boy. since all of u are saying that this matters.. And yes fostercare homes are payed, so they can properly support the child. I grew up with working, well ecucated parents. To become a fostercare home, you are evalued carefully. Noone does it just to earn money.
Get your facts straight people..
+Martine Lifjeld ”Dangerous environments???????????” That poor baby was living in a very tidy and clean house with people who love her so very much. how can you possibly say that it is dangerous?????????
It is a hell of a crime to take children from their own loving mother and other loving relatives and take advantage of the fact that they can”t speak and put them in a stranger”s hands!
A disgusting nazi people!
+popapopas ”I think you want to protect this system because you have interests in it: either you work for BV, either one of your relatives work for it, or something in between.” - Was this a reply to my previous comment? I”ve read many of your comments and I thought we are on the same side in this issue, i.e. against BV. I”m definitely not protecting it. As a Romanian citizen, I follow closely the Bodnariu family”s drama, and that”s precisely why I am so disgusted of this perverse system.
+3a Scdo You only see one side of the story. It´s dangerous to draw conclusions without knowing the full picture.
+popapopas Norwegiean pupils sing Christian songs every christmas, so what the Bodnariu family tells the Romanian media or whatever, clearly that's a lie. Even our king is Christian. I don't understand why Romanians trust the Bodnariu family so much as it seems. They clearly lie about the reasons their kids were taken away.
You are talking to a Norwegian, with her full name, whom have had a very close experience with both foster children and Barnevernet. She's seen how it works, and she doesn't profit anything by telling you what she just did. And you don't believe her, but you do belive the family that has gotten their kids taken, that will profit everything by lying.
Where is the logic?
Why do you believe foreigners, that don't read Norwegian, that don't understand the language, that don't know our laws etc.?
If you'd really care, and wished to express yourself on an higher intellectual level. Learn the language and learn what Barnevernet actually is. Don't just make conspiracy theories based on one family, and videos like this - only published for sympathy. Do you really know that the father(or the mother) haven't sexually abused his children, or do you think that's okay to do?
Who is it well known amongst? Only primitive countries like Estonia, Romania, Russia and etc. Where the family is "holy", and you can do whatever you want within your house, abuse and violence involved.
Strange that there are so little noise about Barnevernet in more civilized, modern western countries?
I am sure that the Bodnarius family lie because of what you tell me. It doesn't make sense. Christianity is not a valid reason, there must be something they don't tell you. And why would the family tell eveybody that they abuse their children? They would never get any sympathy then? Or do you sympathy with abusers?
If what you claim were the only reason, it would have been all over the news here, and the family would have had an extremely good case in court. Read our laws, and you'll see.
I see a whole lot of Norwegians on these videos defending Barnevernet. I am a Norwegian too, and even though I will say some of these statements made towards Norwegians in general and Barnevernet are made up and hurting your own cause, I will not say "they only take children if there's a good reason", because it is simply not true. I still have my son, so this is not "I hate for them taking my child", but I've met the system and it's corrupt, deceitful and horrible. I used to believe as most Norwegians do, "no smoke without fire", "there is no reason for them to just do this, so why would they?" or "you only get the parents side of the story, so of course they are lying to get their kids back, and BV can't defend themselves".
Well there can be smoke without fire, a misunderstood situation, a vindictive neighbour, a suspicious bruise ect. You know how they encourage to report for the slightest suspicion. There has been one tragic recent case where no one reported, many that was reported rightly, and many that was reported wrongly.
So next one. Why would they? Well many people working in Barnevernet does so because they want to save children from their own past. What do you think they see? Do you think they meet parents with open eyes, look at them as humans and want to genuinely look at the family dynamic, or do you think they look for flaws, and ghosts from their own pasts at every turn? What about those who have worked there very long, who've seen too many cases where they were desperately needed. Do those people still meet new parents with an open mind or a cynical mind? How about people who like power, you know they exist in the police force, they also exists here, "do what I tell you, crawl and beg, or feel the power I have over you".
The last one, you can not really do much about, confidentiality is a real thing.
But, why is there no control organ who ensures that they are doing a proper job? There is in the police to avoid misuse of the power they posses. Barnevernet also possess a lot of power, and the individual case worker will never be in danger of being held accountable for the mistakes he or she makes.
Why are the conversations not recorded on tape? Why is there no need for evidence in the reports they write? Why can an individual case worker write whatever she/he likes in the report, and no one except the parent will question it? And the parent "will of course lie, because she/he wants to keep the child", right?
Why did Norway not sign the Hague convention, or UN's children's right convention?
Why has Norway lost so many cases concerning Barnevernet in the European court of human rights, and then ignored the rulings?
When severe cases of misconduct of an employee is revealed, why is that person not held accountable?
Why do case workers give parents diagnosis and write them as facts in their reports without having a doctor examine the parent for said diagnosis?
When a child is acting out, it is blamed on the biological parent, when the same child acts out even worse in foster care or an institution, it's because he/she is a problem child.
Why do institutions get to treat children like criminals, put them in isolation and violate their basic human rights?
Why are foster care families allowed to chose a preference about sex and age of the child they want in to their care? And if abuse is reported by the child, it is ignored in the foster family, because by the time the child is in foster care it's no longer a mistreated child, but a problem child? Why are siblings split apart?
Why are close family almost never considered as a foster family?
Why did they find that Barnevernet broke the Norwegian law in 87 of the 90 offices they examined?
I could go on, but unless you actually care to open your eyes about the problem we do have in Norway with our child "protection" service, you probably stopped reading a long time ago, because it's just some more propaganda right? If not, feel free to check up on these facts. Something is very VERY wrong in our system, and it's allowable by one of the best thing about our country, our trusting nature.
+Nadjana1 thanks for your comment, very good info.
+Nadjana1 - Thank you for your input - it's more than welcomed.
You are SO right!!! I'm also norwegian and the CPS is very corrupt! Though the rest of my family doesn't believe me, cuz they've never dealt with them. And also, the cps rarely bother rich people. It's always the common or poor folks. Cuz they can't fight back/they're not believed or heard.
These people have some serious karma coming back to them. This has apparently spread to Serbia, where Barenevernet is take Serbian kids from their families, and who God only knows where else.
This spread in Bulgaria too.
This year it started in Lithuania also, state got many funds from Norway "child protection" services, and many kids are already kidnapped
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people are different. But if I had children, they would be the reason I get up everyday. And if someone wanted to take away my children, all that I have to live for, I would have nothing else to live for and nothing to lose, so I would probably take as many as possible down with me before I perished. I would set the world on fire.
You know that if you treat your bloody children well, nobody is going to take them from you, right? Only abusive parents are supposed to lose their children.
Born child, when only your cause to live - it is this child, it's stupid and selfish, and your child will be unhappy.
*Jamokai* If thats how you respond to arguments, then I bloody hope you don't have any children.
You're simply asuming I don't know anyone who has been taken either. I know both people who have worked at barnervernet, and people who have been taken by it. I'm not as oblivious as you might think. Especially considering I am actually LIVING in Norway. And where was it ever implied that the child were taken because of their traditional practises? People have the right to know, if not, they are allowed to take legal actions against the organisation. If barnevernet aren't offering them a good reason as to why they will take their children from them, then they are allowed to sue them, simple as that.
Children who are taken will also not forever be separated from their parents. They are allowed to visit their parents. Some even allowed to sleep over with them. If the parents truly change their way, then they might get a second chance at raising their children.
And since you mention that you're Russian, perhaps I should make you aware that Russia is trowing propaganda at multiple scandinavian countries? One of their main focus is barnevernet. What you are told isn't true. We Norwegians aren't suffering from this organisation. The only one who has to worry are abusive parents, and if the children are taken despite the parents not being abusive, they have their full right to do as stated above, take legal actions. Barnevernet aren't allowed to kidnap children. Its among our law that they are allowed to take children that are being abused away from their parents and give them a new and better home. You also don't have to act like a fucking prick. That won't win you the argument. That also doesn't make me more convinced that you should be having children.
I don't plan to with people like you in it.
Norwegian social Barnevernet is as GESTAPO!
Shame on Barnevernet, shame on Norway, shame on all Norwegians that they allow these cases to happen! Now I see that Norway is the country of regular fascists. Wanted to go there fishing but changed my mind! I don't judge based only on this video, I have read tonnes of materials regarding this topic and I was horror-struck that this happens in Norway.
I am not for Breivik sollution, but I think in a way some Norwegians are behaving like Nazis..We are currently dealing with one decent Czech family who got to the trap of Barnevernet.the EU MP-S are dealing with it, Strassbourg....barnevernet is really organization of piggs and I have a deep knowledge of the case so I do know what i am saying. I am a teacher myself for 25 years and I can tell you, if this happenned in my country or to me, the barnevernet bastards would not get near my child -) Sometimes I feel I understand (though do not approve!!!) Breivik
Norway👎👎👎
Taking taxpayers money and children to fill an organisation pockets. Norway should seriously think of changing this thing.
Seriously, watching first two minutes made me sick and worried, some really disturbing moments shown there. However, people calling Norway a nazi or Gestapo country seemed to me having gone a bit overboard. But the more I dig into Barnevernet cases the more I incline to agree with this statement. You, Norway people, should stand against such acting and demand the truth. The fact that this is not a rare case plus following the Czech case I am now sure that there is something fishy about it. Read the open letter of the boys` mum`s dad to the Norwegian embassy - a truly horrific reading. I hope the boys will be soon with their biological mum safe and sound and I hope for you, Norway, that you find the power to stop Barnevernet terror!
Can you write a link to boys' mum's dad letter, please?
ocport I second that. The link to "mum's" (how cute:) dad's letter to Norwegian embassy, please.
link here, however in czech, maybe translator will help a bit, way too long to translate)): www.kdejemojedite.cz/?p=14
I would not call Norway people nazis, but Barnevernet and its employees most definitely do deserve to be called gestapo
Foster care is a progressive industry in Norway. It is big bussines supplied by state subsidies.
There are even lower demands to the fosters than to parents. So childern removed from fair good parents can be placed to fosters unless they are convicted in the last 3 years, even if their own childern have been removed from them. Many poor people in the remote regions with high unemployment accepts this job as income opportunity.
This is simply fact.
These Norwaygiens kidnapped two Czech childerns of family Michalák - Michalakova (it is at Wikipedia).
They separete them and they can not use they mother tongue. It was done to us also by German Nazi in Lidice.
Kidnapping is evil.
Michalák case[edit]
In May 2011, the two sons of of Eva Michaláková and husband who originate from the Czech republic were removed by the Child Welfare Services due to suspicion of child sexual abuse by the father; allegations denied by the couple.[10] Michaláková has since divorced her husband and continues to reside in Norway.
Michaláková continues to pursue custody of her children through various channels, including the European Court of Human Rights where her complaint was rejected without prejudice for non-exhaustion of domestic remedies.[11] The case has been discussed by Miloš Zeman president of the Czech republic,
"So as you can see,she divorced her husband,cos he was the one acused of abusing kids,why otherwise she would do that,as they said,she thought it will help her get her kids back faster. "
Mike Fozzer 1. The kids are brothers. Why are they separated? To prevent them from using mother tongue and make them to forget it?
2.The kids are citizens of The Czech republic. Why are they still in Norway??
Norway is inhuman nacist country - FACT!
GESTAPO!!!! ANIMALS!!!!! I switched off after a minute, because I could not watch.
Welcome to Orwellian state.Orwellian state is already here
In Nazi Germany, many people thought he was doing the right thing. The same is now in Norway. Norway will help some children, but from others make another Breiviks... Guilty is the one who doing this. Guilty is the one who just watch this and no help.
Total dislike. Why, for this well looking and being family, they have to take the baby away? I understand wide purpose for it, but still, this is the hardest pain for both: for parents ant the baby in the future it self. This is really sick political stuff. This is the wound of the society of Norway. Tons of money, but also tons of stupidity it self.
Que asco de país y de sistema encubierto de "protección" del menor. Es inhumano, cruel y ni una alimaña sería capaz de cometer semejante barbaridad. El resto de Europa debería tomar cartas en el asunto y sancionar a ese país que se hace llamar desarrollado. Que estas cosas no ocurran jamás.
Pobres familias. No quiero ni imaginar que algo parecido pudiese pasarme. 😟😥
Para el resto de Europa Noruega es un modelo occidental, no lo van a criticar. Pero cuando la llamen socialismo, que es eso. Quizás lo critiquen.
Pure fascism in Norway. My ancestors fought against fascism. Even I hate war, this is one of really good reasons why I would enlist when called. I am really shivering while hearing about such manners in Europe, I am father of 2 kids...
#1 WHY is this child being taken away??? In this PARTICULAR circumstance???
#2 I’m not there, so I don’t know, but this house is IMMACULATE, Jesus! In the U.S. children are allowed to stay in environments much less clean and organized, so, again, what is THE CHARGE HERE FOR REMOVING THE CHILD?
Late to the convo, it’s now 2018, and this video is 2014, but WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
drug abuse? mental health issues? neglect? a clean home doesnt mean its healthy. the reason they are so upset in the video is because they werent supposed to pick her up at home on this day, but two days later. And the mother goes crazy when she isnt allowed to say goodbye to her child. which is the right thing to do. you always do whats best for the child and you never know what will happen if the mother grabs the child.
gert johnnys okay, I understand a clean home doesn’t necessarily mean a healthy home, but because I don’t understand the language, I don’t know what the CHARGES are for removing the child. Can you tell me?
@@rmrsgirl im sorry, but i dont know what the charges is. but what i can tell you is that the reason behind this conflict is because they came 2-3 days to early. what the grandmother says is: they came today because ny daughter reacts with anger and frustration (i do think that would be a normal reaction, but maybe she has some extra problem) and the CPS thought it would be wise to remove the Child now than later. dont know all the details, sorry
@Ass Kicker Go away, troll. I usually don't say this but I hope you get to experience this, if you ever have children.
Supposedly druguse by the mother..
Why you taking a child from their parents,, I don't understand why Norway are taking so many children from their parents. Do you know that you changing child culture to worst one. Norway what are you using for children when you taking away from their parents
Its a Business, check out there business model and you will get to know why they do this
Bad parents.
How this people can be so heartless ?!
What was the main reason that they’re taking the little girl from her mother ?!
I don’t understand their language but the reactions shows enough to see everything...
This social workers ,police officers weren’t they kids before or haven’t got kids .. can’t they feel the pain ?! A real parents won’t hurt their babies ..
doesn’t matter is it a mother or father ..
God protect all the kids in the world .. hopefully and praying this little baby girl goes back to her mommy .. cause that’s not fair ..
I don’t know anything about this case, but generally, when they come assisted by police to take a child out of a home, they have a good reason to do so.
@@MrEsfranck good reason? GOOD REASON? THEY CAN TAKE AWAY YOUR CHILD JUST BECAUSE HE'S CRYING???? WTFUK IS THIS. IF SOMEONE COMES TO MY HOUSE THREATENING TO TAKE MY CHILD AWAY FROM ME - I'LL SHOOT THEM,THEN GRAB MY CAR AND RUN AWAY FROM SUCH A PLACE
The mother seems incidentally to not want to protests against the power of the police and "law". She only asks to say goodbye to her child - her life - and gets a no! It's heartless. I could understand it if she was psychotic and would fight for the child, but this seems to not be so. CPS in Norway always brings police, and no - they seldom have a good reason. If they cared for the children, they would not let them go without clothes and nourishing food in their new homes. They could even give the families some help if needed, instead both the parents and childs life is destroyed, supported by taxpayers money. It's $$$ all over, the industry here is worth 3,75 billion dollars [30 bn NOK].
Bad parents should not have children. I there is proof that family is danger for child even court is not required for separation.
+popapopas Not necessary. If obvious signs of parents being bad are detected police should have right to separate, alcohol and abusive behavior of parents posses danger to children at any moment so separation must be immediate.
In Russia, seizures sometimes occur for no reason, but these are the actions of individual officials and the public is against this.
Yes I agree
+Christopher Storvik In Czech Republic we have 40 years experience with communistic/socialistic totalitarian regime. We know how freedom can easily be lost and that freedom is much more important than so called "welfare" and order. It is scary for us to see how western Europe and specially Scandinavia is happily heading toward totality. Scandinavian christiano/communistic model is based on the presumption that their citizens are so inapt, incompetent and stupid that they are unable to care for their lives themselves. That they need strong supervision form state institutions. The people gradually find themselves controlled by uncontrollable bureocrats, they become a homogenized mass of sheeps which are only allowed to happily consume, defecate and pay taxes.
I am so happy to live in Czech Republic.
We can freely bring up own children. Our children belong to parents, not to the state. We can tell them full truth, that grandma is sick, that they will die one day, that money must hardly be earned, that world can be dangerous. We let them play with fire, experience the world. In short: we let them know the world as it is which we believe makes them self-reliant independant people imune to indoctrination.
We can criticize and controll our bureocrats, eventually send them to jail. We want our bureocrats to be a technical support to people, not the other way around.
We can freely speak. We can loudly say that god does not exist and communists are criminals.
We can freely drink alcohol because we know what alcohol is and what it can do to us. We decide. It is our own responsibility to drink reasonably. Offcourse, If you missbehave you are punished. If somebody is an idiot it is his own decision and responsibility, eventually he is eliminated from the gene pool by natural selection.
We do not have to worry what other people think about us. We are not under constant surveilance of neighbours, teachers, doctors.
We asscociate with other people only if we want to. Not from fear of being ostraciczed by the society. This creates strong relationships, not a herd of sheeps.
Christiano-socialism is European cancer. It takes power and responsibility from peoole to a narrow group of ideologists. It is actualy very simmilar to islam by its desire to control every aspect of peoples lives. This ultimately leads to orwelian/sharia totality. We know it because we have had it. So my dear inteligent norweigan guy, if you can take this lesson from a retarded slavonic guy you still have a chance to make the world a better place :-)
Norway is one of the most free and democratic countries in the world. you have no idea what you're talking about. if you want an example of a country heading towards totalitarianism look at the UK, the US and Russia.
+Christopher Storvik Haha. Norway is no way a role model for democracy. A constitutional monarchy with pathetic immitation of a parliament:
www.newsinenglish.no/2011/01/14/norways-brand-of-democracy/
+Kryštof Žáček if by that you mean one of the most well functioning parliaments in the world today where politicians actually represent the people, respect each other and try to find consensus, then yeah. compare that with the wholly dysfunctional parliament of the US and Lebanon where practically nothing is done due to endless infighting, or to Russia where it just exists to say yes to everything putin decrees.
+Kryštof Žáček you do not know what you're talking about. you're just another Christian joke, believing in complete nonsense as usual.
+Christopher Storvik Compared to Russia, Lebanon or North Korea you are doing relatively well :-)
I live in Norway, i'm 12 years old. I'm in a situation like this. I'm scaref
Bare fortell barnevernet at din familie er den beste, uansett hva.. Ikke si noe annet uansett hva.. Du er lykkelig og Barnevernet gjør deg ulykkelig.. Hold på den uansett hva.
Killers have been treated better this
Is this Democracy?
In Israel is the same
The local Norwegian child protective cervices engages psychologists who basically have the cpc as a main income source, on a 'case by case' basis; psychologists whom the cpc refers to as "independent specialists" but who are nothing of the sort. No such psychologist says yes when asked to represent a private Norwegian citizen to assess their case, naturally because they know they would not be called upon by the cpc to represent them next time around. INDIVIDUAL cpc-office-workers CULTIVATE their 'relations' with these psychologists - who most often are nothing but MASTER-DEGREE graduates carrying the title "Psychologist", and the latter goes for the so-called "Socionomes" (sosionomer) too - family relation 'specialists'!!! This is a factual description about Norway. It is full of UNDER-EDUCATED, dangerously incompetent abusers of power, with no central government to control the local abusers of power. The central government has no control other than macro-economically, the real control of every individual is in the hands of the LOCAL office-workers whom the law give full freedom of INTERPRETATION of the law and the 'officially transmitted general guidelines' (which only stipulates general ideas). And these local education-less individuals do indeed make a MOCKERY of social administration.
A PhD in Pedagogy and Philosophy
The exactly the same procedures happen in UK, Germany, France, and The Netherlands. Actually the really independent psychologists are being sued by social workers with main goal to strip them of their licence.
Norway must be really desperate to be committing such things.
This is sick ! I've heard about many similar cases. For my this is inhuman , I am glad I don't live in Norway, I thought that in my country law not the best , but comparing to this I think it is very normal. I am glad I don't live in Norway or Sweden or Germany ( I know it is similar there ) . People don't go there with your children , you loose them !
Question for child services in Norway - if you really care about children, if the child is over 3 years old and can speak any language, take an intrepeter if needed, and ask child himself/herself if he wants new mum and dad, or if they want and love their biological parents. Child's opinions is most important opinions in families.
The Day i become av father in Norway in The future i Will take mye New family and run far away from Norway for good
Come to sweden people say it can be fucked but i moved from norway to sweden and i love it her❤️
@@annanilsen5684 i love sweden❤ soo much nicer kindhearted openminded caring people there❤ i feel so welcome every time im in sweden ❤
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The mother seems incidentally to not want to protests against the power of the police and "law". She only asks to say goodbye to her child - her life - and gets a no! It's heartless. I could understand it if she was psychotic and would fight for the child, but this seems to not be so. CPS in Norway always brings police, and no - they seldom have a good reason. If they cared for the children, they would not let them go without clothes and nourishing food in their new homes. They could even give the families some help if needed, instead both the parents and childs life is destroyed, supported by taxpayers money. It's $$$ all over, the industry here is worth 3,75 billion dollars [30 bn NOK].
Statement made by lawyer Marius Reikerås on January 19,2016:
"Marius Bodnariu is not allowed to see neither his two sons, nor his two daughters. He can only see the baby. But in reality,he is given no time with his baby.
Only Ruth is allowed to see her sons, but neither she is allowed to see her daughters.
And her time with her sons, is limited to only a few hours per month, and under strict public surveilance
The eldest daughter has written a letter, where she clearly expresses that she misses both her parents and her siblings. As well as the rest of her family.
The siblings are split in three different foster homes.
And they live on secret adresses. Not even the Romanian government knows where they are.
The letter from the daughter, was tried to be kept secret by the public officials,and was not presented when the case was dealt with in the County Board.
I have only have one way to express this:
This is crime against humanity.
Thank you for sharing.These atrocities must be made known to the world."
If that happened to me I wouldn't leave the police in my house to keep smooth talking to me.
Where is the King Harald V? Are you proud about this? 😡😡😡
This horrific crime is gong on twice as much in Denmark! All theese so called "child saviors" are going to burn in hell some day, and on that day, I won't be sad!
Woody Rooper
Yes.. I know, and I truly feel for you...! We have two children taken away from us, and only because of psychology.. nothing else. Here in Denmark about 90% of reasons for removals is because of theese so called tests done by corrupt psycologist, about your parenting skills. It's very evil indeed!
Have you read Carlos Morales book about this child industry?
He was a former social worker in your country, and he has some very interesting things to say about all thats going on.
What the actual fuck?
And I thought that kidnapping children into slavery was a flaw of middleages. Oh no, how wrong am I, it comes back with Norway!
Yeah, and novodays, especially in Norway. I never denied its presence, I was just shocked that it has been turned into business in a country perceived as a modern society.
Now I just have to provide a response to all the nonsense being written here. CPS in Norway (barnevernet) has a job to do. This job is to help children. yes, from time to time they take children away from parents (often with good reason) and yes sometimes they make big mistakes. But we are all human are we not? myself have been getting help from the CPS since I was seven, I'm now nineteen. if it were not for CPS I might not have been here today. so please take into consideration that i am from Norway , and i have a good experience with CPS om this country. ps. they never took me away from my parents so this does NOT happen to everyone . dont belive everything you read or see online . peace out
+Madeleine Eriksen LIAR!!
+popapopas seriusly , i am from Norway , i do know the facts better than you. and they dont kidnap anybody ! as you can see in this video the police are at the home with the cps . how the hell can they do anything illegal with the police right there ? the things people say on social media effects the people who actualy need help from cps. PLEASE stop talking about stuff you dont know anything about. get your facts straight dude.
+popapopas and also , keep in mind that cps cant say anything to protect themself . they are not allowed to speak of any case they have. and they dont make more money by taking children . they do it becouse they think its the best thing for the child. also the parents are allowed to see the kids , if they behave like adults should around a kid.
+Madeleine Eriksen let me guess.... you also are a deffender of gays? very sick country.
here we started to reject and boicot all the products from norway and in the next days the whole world will rejects all the products coming from that nordic countrys.
better ask God for mercy, to forgive all the sins in that country.
+Grigoras Ene a deffender of gays ? you really need to look at yourself in the morror. that comment just makes me feel sorry for you.
THE BABYBANK of NORWAY
In Norway there is a real BABYBANK named Småbarnsbanken. This bank is owned by the state and administrated by the CPS. It works almost like an ordinary bank. But instead of using money as capital , this bank use babies from 0-2 years of age.
The CPS receive their capital of babies, by legally kidnapping them, mainly from poor pregnant single moms. Then the CPS place the babies into an account in the BABYBANK. After the cases has been trough court, the CPS give the babies to other people who want to adopt them. The interests for the biological parents are close to zero prosent. If the biological parents accept the adoption of their beloved child,the CPS sometimes let them see their child once or twice a year.If they do not accept adoption the parents are not allowed to see their child.And the capital- the child-just like money in a bankaccount-are of course not asked about; who should be its legal owner or how would it like to be spent. NICE or CRUEL?
+Nina Langfeldt That”s horrific!
يا حيُّ يا قيوم برحمتك نستغيث أصلح لنا شأننا كله و لا تَكِلنا إلى نفسنا طَرفة عين
حسبنا الله و نِعم الوكيل
لا حول ولا قوة إلا بالله
#أوقفوا_خطف_أطفالنا
#اوقفوا_خطف_اطفالنا_السويد
#اين_حق_لينا
#مجرمون_بصمت
#Lex_Donia_Hassan
#lex_donia_hassan
#slutakidnappavårabarn
#Stopkidnappingourchildren
how can people not ride against the government
In Norway !!!!!!! really I couldn't finish the video. this is crazy and and no one will takes care of children like their parents even if the parents were poor if u want to help the kids you should to give some money to their families because nothing can be better alternative than their moms and dads
A Romanian immigrant to Norway had her child taken from her because he sang Christian song in school, which "means that he was facing Christian indoctrination"WTF?
Graiovski Tek Got any proof for this?
1. www.wnd.com/2015/12/norway-seizes-kids-over-familys-christian-indoctrination/
2. www.businessinsider.com/ap-norway-accused-of-unfairly-taking-away-immigrant-children-2015-8
Graiovski Tek because Norway is atheistic government and think religion is child abuse and they justify to take kids from religious parent. Does answers your question ?
I am sorry, but I believe this to be bullshit, because this is clearly against the fucking law that dictates when and why a child care might be taken over by the state. (§4-12 bvl.)
It is just a hypothetical situation and it is apparent to everyone who reads your comments that it is you who does not care about a welfare of the child. Let me explain to you one more time because maybe you do not comprehend English well enough.
1. PTSD- Post traumatic stress disorder
a)someone who undergoes extreme stress such as parent-child separation can become sick even though they have never been sick before
b) It goes both ways child can become sick too
c) if you do not believe that a child can get sick from a separation enxiety you should read about the "glass girl" from Norway who was taken from her mother
d) we have nothing to discuss further if you do not know what PTSD and separation anxiety are
+Andrew Labudzki I know what that is. I do read papers.
The reason a child get separated from its parents is to prevent damage on the child. Either physically or mentally. Not the opposite. You don't know anything.
+Kommentøren You should not "read papers", you should read peer-reviewed-articles to understand what I said, but this requires an academic level of English. ;)
Andrew Labudzki Your academic level of English doesn't make you right. And the fact that you only choose to argument on my English level(which is undeniable understandable), shows that you don't really have any relevant argument.
And because what you claim about Barnevernet aren't anywhere close to reality, I doubt you have read any real peer-reviewed-articles in this matter.
+Kommentøren Unfortunately, the language is clearly a barrier here, because I did not make any claims about Barnevarnet. Everything I said was just hypothetical, to make you think, but it is impossible. Thinking has a colossal future for you. It was great talking to you, you should definitely look at the possibilities though.
+Andrew Labudzki Bullshit. If there is any language barrier, it's because you don't understand Norwegian and aren't able to get an understanding of what Barnevernet really is and how they work.
As I said, you don't know anything and your hypothesis isn't anything else than fantasy and exaggeration.
A claim is pretty the same as a hypothesis… HAHAHA. Academic English my ass. Get a grip, dude.
The Barvevern kiddnaps three children from their families everyday of our lives. Not all the abductions can be neccessay, surly not! It horrer, and awfully wrong toward mankind of all nations! We have to stand united toward the norwegian politicians who are human right criminals, i'm sorry to say. Neverth less the TRUTH!
This is insane
Thank God for not living in Norway!