Is Hoederer ACTUALLY Good? | Operator Review
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Hoederer is out! And today we're going to review him, is he any good? Worth pulling? Here's my review of Hoederer!
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Silly me showed the lvl 1 stats for S3 description, even after watching the video 10+ times I missed it, apologies. Link in description for stats for anyone curious! 😄
Hoederer the hoarder.... *Looks at the massive fan collection of U-official that Hoederer has*
just remember: if it’s stunnable, it’s killable!
Just remember: If it's crusher, it's crushable
Just remember: if theres a hole theres a way
I just got him to M9, every other upcoming unit except for the limited ones are "does big damage" and nothing else (limiteds have some unique mechanics at least) and for a three year old account I don't think I need any more big numbers, can quietly focus on all my husbands
Tbh hoerderer also mostly does big damage
@@sayantanpaul5947 that's not the only thing big about him
@@SaurabhKhandagaleI also love his enormous... sword
Absolutely agree. I have enough big number ooga booga to not care about them anynore. I only pull for characters I find personal interest in: unique mechanics or cool backstory.
@@sayantanpaul5947Not at all. His "big damage" is pitful and tied to one of the slowest aspd units in the game
It's just another case of the "This unit can't solo every stage, in the trash with him" mentality that plagues a large part of the community. I remember a post on reddit shitting on HyperGryph because Lin is "terrible", meanwhile she has been really helpful in ch13 for me.
Ahmen.
I remember I was happy to see Phalanx caster Module boost their tanking power, and everyone was just whining about how "It should have been Mylnar on stilts."
I used to be one of those meta chasers too until I sat back and realized, "Wait, I hate this. Why chase a new character when they will be replaced in like 6 months at most?"
No it isnt. His kit just doesnt bring anything new to the table, has terrible downtimes and his class gimmick makes him hard to use. Compared to broken operators we are going to get, he is just isnt good
@@PAX-East Replaced in 6 months? A strong chracter is always strong. Its just that the new arknights meta is actually fleshed out now. Any character that is good by current meta standards will continue to do so. Thats what meta ceiling is. Dating far as Surtr, every meta character that got released is still Meta. Most of the replacements happened to 1st-2nd year operators
Like Ray deals less damage than Ela but both are broken by current standards so there really isnt anything to replace.
@PAX-East that's beyond cap. The only meta character I can think of that's straight up been replaced is Phantom. And his clone still let's him see use in a lot of story stages.
Everyone else is just as good if not better with new supports. Mountain came out like 3 years ago and he's still "Mr. Set and forget".
Also no that's not why people were saying Hoederer is bad. Even without the stacked upcoming banners including multiple stacked guards, the guard class has so many damn units and archetypes that a new one HAS to do something unique or new. Hoederer doesn't. And his 0 defense makes him hard to use without being baby sat. That's not comparable to Lin in the slightest. People said she and her archetype was bad because it was niche and the damage was backloaded. That's perfectly usable just not something most people go for first.
I still pulled him for husbando reasons but y'all need to stop coping fr
Chonky Man is a must have
After his banner:
Funny violinist damages enemies mentally
Yeah... A must have
A high damage 6* of the one of the worst class is a must have
I have a second account where I allow myself pull for any operator I want. And I pulled myself a Hoe there.
Me happy. Me need new resources now 😂
His first skill hit harder than his 3rd and it recover 25% hp, and if you bring chenchen his skill is spammable, recommended 👍
Only downside is lack of built in stun
@@bellseb Bro his first skill increasing his attack to +260% , his 3rd is only increase to +120%, stun and bind only increasing his talent attack from 110% to 140%, still very worth it you can gain stun and bind from other ops anyway 👍
Yeah has some of if not the highest DPH for any melee op iirc and his best option vs high defense. DPS overall kinda bad but there's combos with it and self sustain ain't horrible on it
@@13jrohrer wdym its about hoerderer not other op
Just deploy and place stainless's device...
S1 is also best for holding a Lane without medic. He gets around 1500 heal each skill activation
he's good as an operator and in bed, that's why he has a massive sword and another massive sword
Bro what?
don't forgot about his cake
Man you're so real. Quite literally the reasons I pulled for him
Would
Eyo???
He's pretty fun to use. He bonked the Chapter 13 boss to death with his S3. Also do not use him like a Centurion Guard
He got that from U-Official
Yep, Crusher shouldn't be treeated as a Centurion cuz they themselves will get overwhelmed by fodder.
But rather treat them as a Dreadnought that can assassinate them big cheese.
He can be treated as superb centurion guard for 70 of his skill 3. Which is often all you need for a short stage.
I only went for Hoederer to complete the W trio. Now looking ahead to coming limited banners, Virtuosa I couldn't care less about, but Shu I'll be definitely going for.
People really underestimated his still 3 long duration and short count down. He can hold lane for very long with it and kill bosses along with everything else as well. In stage that you can effort his off skill thanks to off wave he is essentially and mountain and Surtr combine.
Gonna pull him ... on the next story banner with him, ines, and stainless
I like your videos and you have a nice voice. This one came off a little bit more rambling than normal, which made it a bit less enjoyable. I will continue to follow your channel in the mentime.
You put the lvl 1 stats for his S3 description
Yeah just noticed, thanks for letting me know
Does not Shining with her Y module actually increase defense of all crushers to 120 defense within her range?
Anyone starting out in this game, probably around missing the last 2-3 banners may find use for him - heck he may even be great at that circumstance.
keyword - may
Yay! more maleknights content!
Maleknights the best content!
If you want to keep it casual, just call the video "my thoughts on x" and put that it's a casual review in the description. Hopefully that gets your video in the searches but gives the viewer an understanding that you aren't taking it very seriously.
Like you said in the video I have No Clue why S2 doesn’t have Dmg Reduction..
Increasing the Sanctuary of his 2nd Talent Could’ve easily been a part of the Skill 😤
Crushers are cool
He perfect with Warfarin 1st skill
What is a connection between Hoederer and U-official??? Have seen couple jokes about it, where it comes from?
Basically one of her mods is called "one eyed spy" or something like that. When the even first dropped on CN we didn't know hoederer's status so Basically we found out he was fine through an April fools event and that stuck with people. The meme lasted long enough to make it to EN
@@danielbarnes1241 I thought it was because of that one Sarkaz in the chat
Haven't tested him much, but 0 def is just very bad, i think no matter where you place him, he Always need healers... During IS3 ending 1 he just got shredded by ranged mobs very fast on the right side of map
Still, will try to find good use of him
Pull for him for husbando reasons. He honestly good for fighting elites but desperately need medic
Define 'good'? he works. he might be better than say hellagur without his module, and a module could probably fix him.
S1 gives 25% restore 2 SP cost offensive recovery, so if you could battery him that 2 SP cost, gives him good sustain.
s2 gives him 1 Second stun on 3 targets. 3 second attack wind up. if you get those relics in IS that increase stun duration or attack speed, this can permanently lock down anything not stun immune.
S3 gives well, helidrop potential for removing threats. you got big things standing around s3 can remove them. its cycle is bad so you kinda need to retreat and redeploy him, but that used to be a thing in silverash era, its workable.
so yeah, S1 compare to mountain s2, I think its worse but not incredibly so and not in all situations. and if you can battery him or the enemies don't do physical damage its better. basically if you are going thru a lane of elites and just elites, s1 will hold it.
s2. niche, but if that niche is a thing mainly slow attack speed elites where 1 second stun every 3 seconds will lock them down. masteries don't help that, so just know he has it.
S3. boss removal.
I'm seeing alot of gameplay were you are leaving him on the field and not redeploying him.
I would seriously consider s1 in those situations. makes it much easier to keep him alive and good constant DPS.
Mountain has strengths but diminishing gains against enemies that hit really hard and slow (his regen won't keep up because his DEF and HP isn't high during S2). Against medium to low ATK enemies, Mountain wins because he's more efficient DP wise.
Hoederer makes certain fights with S2 more doable compared to Mountain because his stuns can cancel animation (ex: golems long attack animation). He might not be able to sustain on his own, but paired with a healer, he can do very well against higher DEF + higher ATK enemies by staggering their interval. He's useful in Ch 13 to cancel stuns for that reason (bigger HP gap, true mitigation with sanctuary in exchange for higher damage, replaced my need for a defender). Against the Cannon, he can easily tank the 3k true damage hit relatively easily with enough medics on him to trivialize the mechanic, and you can somewhat force target priority with S2 (bumping him up to 3 block). In contrast, Mountain can't do any of those things relatively easily due to his HP difference, low DEF, and limited range.
So basically you can use both based on lane pressure, one covers the easier lane and the other covers the high damage lane.
That was a cool idea for making a video. I loved it 😊❤
Thanks Anman! 😄
I got him at 11th one pull
Gratz! Hope you enjoy him
A bit random do you still do account reviews. Also would you like to do some pulls from my account for content?
Use Typhon s3 and hoederer s3 together
And destroy everything
Maybe module gonna fix him? Like mb 5th anniversary?
Fix what exactly?
@@kevinseraphin5456 idk mb add even more damage reduction (sanctuary)? Like... he is good unit to counter true damage but he is made of glass is not fun to use
@@Korsicca He's made of glass if you try to use him like a centurion, wich crushers are not, that's as dumb as saying we have to fix Blaze beceause she can't deal with the shieldguard form ch 7...
Centurion are meant to deal with large amount of trashmob but SUCK against high def enemies, Crusher are the literal oposite, they thrive against the realy tanky enemiesthat have a relatively slow attack speed.
If you watched the video you LITTERALY see him tank the Mudrock's golems without breaking a sweat, they deal physical damage, they can one shot Blaze (if her talent procked already obviousely), how is it that he can take it easily if he's made of glass and "need" more damage reduction?no, he just suck in the situations YOU put him in.
@@vuototetro0 Yeah that, it's as if peoples don't know how to play with balanced ops anymore...
@@kevinseraphin5456 Thing is Blaze S1/2 outputs similar numbers vs. mobs, but she has Def/Res 3 Block etc. [vs. high Def enemies Hod still wins. so it's a Mountain/Chongus situation],
If you just need a boss killer Sutr and ranged DPS does a better job anyway, so having a hard to heal ground DPS that fears mobs is kinda crazy....
I got him but as I use Quarqus/Silence Alt his sanctuary is wasted potential, not that it super helps, 18% acts like 500 def vs. 2800~ damage and vs mobs 500~ damage it's just him dying 1/6 slower.
He's fine I guess, but if I didn't have Skalter the equalizer I wouldn't bother building him.
so crushers only work with healers that heal percent max hp, like warfin s1, shining s 2 and so on. also there is a fun interaction with shining and skadi alter which give him a small defense boost, you can give him around 200 defenses, which make him a little bit more tank. But not sure anyone want to work around having 3 ops to make him viable.
With 0 def and high HP, Crusher is a pain to heal.
Honestly, he's a solid Operator. It just sucks that his banner has really bad timing compared to everything else.
60+ pulls not getting him I just giveup
When i know his Sub-class is *Crusher*
I closed my eyes and decided to low my expectation
Another unit people are gonna cope "hes great actually" and spread misinfo about that gets new players caught up
What annoys me is that 4* crusher, Quartz has a damage amplification of 25% against her (for ALL types, physical, arts, and even true damage) on her 2nd skill! ...
SERIOUSLY! She already has ZERO defense!!! FFS!!!
Her S1 on the other hand SLAPS HARD
Well, most bosses these day immune to stun anyway, and some bosses target highest hp. 0 def and res, hell nah, i rather use my good old ice cream lover
He has 18 res at e2 [Sanctuary]
He isnt good because he doesnt bring anything new to the table. His kit is borderline bloated solely to fight his archtypes terrible nature so he doesnt bring anything other than actually being able to be used compared to other members of the archtype
His s1 is a joke, its a "laneholding" skill and litterally doesnt work on any lane you would use a laneholder at. This skill unironically works better against singular elites wich has nothing to do with laneholding at all.
His 2nd skill just makes him easier to kill wich is hilarious, no self sustain, no defensive buff. The 1 second stun is "good" for some occasions like perma stunning golems but outside this its just bad
His s3 skill is actually worthwhile skill and all this skill does is that make him actually useful by fighting against his class weakness. Funnily hoaderers kit is more about fixing his terrible class kit rather than actually bringing something new
The damage is nice and healing is good but its tied to a terrible downtime where he has zero forms of healing so the best strat is the outright redeploy him as he is a deadweight without his skill and will easily die anyway as off skill he is terrible. The skill itself is just... yeah
The things he gets in this skill arent there for making him good, its for fixing his archtype issues so he doesnt offer anything new compared to other characters. His dps is a joke so using him as a boss killer is a terrible idea unless the boss stays in the same location for 30 seconds like Patriot. Outside this his s3 sucks against basically any new boss.
It isnt good for laneholding as donwtime is huge (and makes him hilariously easy to die) the aoe aspect is amazing but as a burst skill its hardly any better than other 6 star aoe damagers we already have. Gavial s2 and s3 is like a 20 times better version of this skill with better damage and actually having defense while having quick cycles.
He isnt unusable, but he outright brings nothing to the table so there is "no" reason to use him. His damage is bad, no self sustain outside skill, the stun is RNG on s3 and useless against everything except golems in s2
He sounds good in paper but not much in the field. And when you compare him to the next banners where we will get a broken limited aoe ritualist, a Mlynar level guard and multiple other Broken units like Ray and Shu, his already low pull value falls even further to the ground
TLDT: his kit fights more against his archtypes horrible kit than actual enemies. He is an operator that can do many things but master of none of them, and his downsides far outweight his upsides
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