Think of what happens during storms? The negatively charged earth, rises and takes its charge with it into the positively charged sky, and as the warm rising negatively charged air rises, and the cooling descending positively charged air descends, you get an inverse charge separation. Now we've seen that in super cells, the forward flank downdraft can often feed into the adjacent rear flank updraft.
@rolandotillit2867 ohh I have. Absolutely I've asked a million questions. I've tried all search engines. What I've found is what happens at weather school in Alaska, stays within the confines of the university of Alaska. Weather satellites do far more than sit and watch . Frequencies and frequently moderated atmospheric conditions are manipulated daily. So if you think it's nature without being man- ipulated, stay inside the box. Every storm is steered with charges from other than the storm
So, questions are “what maintains the potential difference?”, “why sometimes reversed charge layers in clouds?”, and we should add “why are there fewer lightning strikes in the Arctic and Antarctic, but also why are strikes there increasing?” Might there be a correlation between lightning strike latitude on Earth, and the butterfly pattern of sunspot latitude on the sun?
Any ideas on the red shift of sprites? I think there are also yellow sprites. One thing I've been thinking about is PH and how it could play a role in charge separation in clouds. My proof-of-concept experiment of lining Ken Wheeler's (Theoria Apophasis on YT) square magnet structured water device with PH sensors hasn't been done yet. The prediction is that there will be minute PH fluctuations a the water passes the inertial plane of the magnet under fluid flow, due to sis-trans hydrogen bond flips. Yes, water has electromagnetic memory. I wonder if any ion channel analogies could be established in terms of PH potentials. Excellent series, keep up the good work.
Wonderful Video and great that you resume in the end again what you have shown in more detail previously. Its a Video to watch at least twice to grasp and extrapolate its deeper implications for what electricity is and does 😅
Interesting video. I did not know posotive and negative lightning were so different. Nb: a bit confusing sentence at 9:19 . "Far fewer positive strikes to ground compared to positive, ..."
How is it they think up Quantum Mechanics, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, The Big Bang, Relativity but we do not know how lightning exactly works? Seems to be quite an important lack in our knowledge the solution of which can bring us more practical applications than any of the other things. And even more it should be observable and testable. My hunch is the magnetic field around the earth plays a role.
Not understanding every detail of lightning is not as strange as it may seem at first sight. Do not forget that quantum mechanics, relativity, etc. were discovered (historically rather recently) after a long and tedious process of scientific deliberation. These discoveries were not really finished phases of knowledge that emerged and established themselves, but kept on driving exploration and thought. The Big Bang is not as obviously certain as it has been publicly portrayed all along. The same goes for Dark Matter and Energy. These are items that science creates as "solutions" to problems, but that doesn't turn them into established facts beyond doubt.
@@kricketflyd111 It doesn't matter whether I would "believe" in dark matter or not. That's not the point of what I was saying. The point is that science is not a business in which clear-cut facts are established. There will come a time in which science will reach other conclusions on issues like dark matter, and we can witness the disputes already now, ever since such propositions have been posited. Physicists of the 19th century, practicing (what we now would call) classical physics, also thought that they had almost everything covered. They just needed to solve some "details" in the descriptions of something called Black Radiation, and everything would be peachy. Dark matter is prone to become an issue that will be handled through changing perceptions, because it emerged from a scientific flow of thoughts, not direct empirical discovery. It's a subject of dispute anyway, and for good reasons.
Watching that sprite slo mo is an emotional awe moment. There is so much happening in that. If you look close, it's like a laser jet is shooting outward producing balls of mass that become crazy. Surely they are plasma balls, but WOW! At the end it looks smoky. I've never seen if that smoky look was a field effect that goes off like a light bulb or does it linger longer like smoke does?
The Earth should be thought of as a dielectric barrier discharge rather than a capacitor model. A large amount of electrons are moving from the Earth's interior toward the ionosphere. This movement of electrons not only causes weather phenomena, but also creates atmospheric pressure and prevents strong winds from blowing on the Earth's surface.
Bolt out of the blue... Usually associated with positive lightning from the upper part of the cloud, I believe. It can arc many miles away from the originating cloud but it's on the list to look at in more detail
Hello Gareth, i just learned about Telluric current and i am not sure i really understand it. Can you do a quick dive on that please? Thank you so much for everything.
Fascinating. So feels like the Electric Universe ideas are at work here. Particularly Wal Thornehill's thoughts on the consequencies of gravity having polarity so that globes are actually massive shells meaning we are effected by different interior events than we presently imagine, also that gravity is variable according to the charge of the globe.
I'm an Old Physics Geek in LA, but there's nothing like being under some Kiowa, Kansas lightning! The complexity of electrical discharges is fascinating. BOOM!
Of course there is no conventional explanation for charge continuation. They believe the Earth, (and all objects in the universe for that matter), to be separate independently powered structures.
the ground is contently fed by the plasmoid at the core thats why,,,,, there is balance between the sky and ground and a total discharge cant happen in the air unless the energy increase is in orders of magnitude of what it currently is air is an excellent insulator
@@whig01 the flood came from saturn mostly but some came from underground when the earth expanded the water in saturns rings are identical to earths water
The double -ended tree simulation image reminds me strongly of the Mesopotamian depictions of the cosmic thunderbolt. I was always curious as to why it's shown as double-ended, but perhaps they knew something we're only just finding out?
This is fabulous, thanks. I live on a boat with an aluminium mast. Masts are made with generally a flat cap plate with square edges. It only occurred to me recently that for a square edge conductive plate in a negative field at the meeting of the horizontal surface and the vertical surface there will be a tendency for the electrons to jump of the plate and become the start of an electrical path. Is this the correct conclusion? If so then are we advised to radius the edges of the cap plate top and bottom so the electric pressure is more uniform across the plate? Or is the overall field energy so great that local details are irrelevant? Then as the mast is aluminium and the stays are stainless steel (higher resistance) should we earth the mast to the water from the mast base? Is this inviting a lightning strike? Or should we encourage electrons to leave the mast with pointed wire spikes at the mast head as some systems suggest?
Is it really necessary to maintain the concepts of “positive” and “negative” charge? Wouldn’t things be more clearly understood/explained by talking about potential differences between points? Moreover, is it really necessary to have an electron? If the phenomenon we call electricity is actually an electromagnetic wave interaction, of differing orders of magnitude, between atoms (structures atom paradigm) and the Aether, couldn’t it be explained by field, wave, and function mathematics? Does it really make sense to have a “negative” particle and have something be negative to different degrees that are essentially negative negative and positive negative?
I agree. It would make more sense to just use terms like pressurized and depressurized, rather than positive and negative. Temperature, pressure and charge should never be reported as negative values. It makes no sense. Zero should be the baseline.
@@SeethePattern completely. 💯. Hopefully my comment did not come across in a petty condescending manner. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. Greetings from Tennessee.
@@SeethePattern Can you define what you mean by potential in this context? I know you're familiar with the structured atom model. Is it your opinion that the electron is a physical particle that can exist independently of a proton? How is this 'negative charge' physically embodied?
Thank you. Excellent video bringing together all aspects of lightning. I can tell you further that there is a fundamental connection between lightning and the double slit experiment.
I have often thought that lightling when making contact with the ground may well be where some transmutation of the elements takes place. Seing that there are numerous types of lightning may be result of at least some of the different elements and minerals that are found in the earth..
I'm willing to bet the fact that if the ground is negatively charged, and then so is the atmosphere at ground level, which would mean that when large masses of hot air rise, they also take their charge with them, and the air they displace moves in relation to that. Since the mass and inertia of air is stronger than the charge, you have a lot of charge separation due to air masses circulating and carrying aerosols, dust and water particles. The constant circulation of charged airmasses around the troposphere can explain a lot. You also have air cooling and falling back down, air that may have changed polarity due to mingling in the upper level circulation. These processes happen continuously, so it would make sense that spread out over time, large charge separations can build as a result.
Thank you for all the hard work. The lightning look awefully like trees with roots, or metal vains in mines, which is what i think makes gold.@@SeethePattern
2:55 Ionosphere mysterious realm, where HAM radio frequency bounces of and can carry signal over entire Earth circumference. Glass is better electrical capacitor than mica maybe charge of ionosphere in related with some firmament except it is concave not convex. NASA says it is charged plasma except why it is at that point. not explain how plasma stays stable.
That’s part of the discharge process. I’ve done a few videos explaining electrical discharges. Initially it will form as a corona discharge as the branches form, as the leader forms it will go from glow mode into arc mode once the current starts to flow.
When you watch a film at one million frames per second you will clearly see the lightning bolt either start at the top and move to the ground or the ground up to the clouds. I have yet to see a bolt start in the middle and work it's way in both directions.
I think you misunderstand. What you see as the descending leader contains an opposite polarity tree feeding the downward branch. The image of the plane is probably the rare occasion that you can see both ends of the tree. Most of the time the opposite part of the tree is way above the bottom of the cloud and you will not be able to see it. Like a tree with a root system below the ground.
We should be asking ourselves why we've been seeing more ground to cloud discharges
Ingress of the galactic current sheet?
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Satellite/ haarp
Think of what happens during storms? The negatively charged earth, rises and takes its charge with it into the positively charged sky, and as the warm rising negatively charged air rises, and the cooling descending positively charged air descends, you get an inverse charge separation. Now we've seen that in super cells, the forward flank downdraft can often feed into the adjacent rear flank updraft.
@rolandotillit2867 ohh I have. Absolutely I've asked a million questions. I've tried all search engines. What I've found is what happens at weather school in Alaska, stays within the confines of the university of Alaska. Weather satellites do far more than sit and watch . Frequencies and frequently moderated atmospheric conditions are manipulated daily. So if you think it's nature without being man- ipulated, stay inside the box. Every storm is steered with charges from other than the storm
So, questions are “what maintains the potential difference?”, “why sometimes reversed charge layers in clouds?”, and we should add “why are there fewer lightning strikes in the Arctic and Antarctic, but also why are strikes there increasing?” Might there be a correlation between lightning strike latitude on Earth, and the butterfly pattern of sunspot latitude on the sun?
Any ideas on the red shift of sprites? I think there are also yellow sprites. One thing I've been thinking about is PH and how it could play a role in charge separation in clouds. My proof-of-concept experiment of lining Ken Wheeler's (Theoria Apophasis on YT) square magnet structured water device with PH sensors hasn't been done yet. The prediction is that there will be minute PH fluctuations a the water passes the inertial plane of the magnet under fluid flow, due to sis-trans hydrogen bond flips. Yes, water has electromagnetic memory. I wonder if any ion channel analogies could be established in terms of PH potentials. Excellent series, keep up the good work.
Wonderful Video and great that you resume in the end again what you have shown in more detail previously. Its a Video to watch at least twice to grasp and extrapolate its deeper implications for what electricity is and does 😅
14:00 "far fewer positive strikes to ground compared to positive" I got confused on that one, still am.
sorry should be compared to negative ones
Thanks, going back to re-read.@@SeethePattern
Concentric shells of counter-rotating oppositely charged particles.
Interesting video. I did not know posotive and negative lightning were so different.
Nb: a bit confusing sentence at 9:19 . "Far fewer positive strikes to ground compared to positive, ..."
Whoops sorry about that should be compared to negative...
How is it they think up Quantum Mechanics, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, The Big Bang, Relativity but we do not know how lightning exactly works? Seems to be quite an important lack in our knowledge the solution of which can bring us more practical applications than any of the other things. And even more it should be observable and testable.
My hunch is the magnetic field around the earth plays a role.
it is surprising how little we understand of something as obvious as lightning
Knowledge of fire and light was hidden and scrubbed from our teachings long ago. 🌼🔥❄️🕸️👀
Not understanding every detail of lightning is not as strange as it may seem at first sight. Do not forget that quantum mechanics, relativity, etc. were discovered (historically rather recently) after a long and tedious process of scientific deliberation. These discoveries were not really finished phases of knowledge that emerged and established themselves, but kept on driving exploration and thought. The Big Bang is not as obviously certain as it has been publicly portrayed all along. The same goes for Dark Matter and Energy. These are items that science creates as "solutions" to problems, but that doesn't turn them into established facts beyond doubt.
@@Guido_XL Are you saying that you don't believe in dark matter?
@@kricketflyd111 It doesn't matter whether I would "believe" in dark matter or not. That's not the point of what I was saying. The point is that science is not a business in which clear-cut facts are established. There will come a time in which science will reach other conclusions on issues like dark matter, and we can witness the disputes already now, ever since such propositions have been posited.
Physicists of the 19th century, practicing (what we now would call) classical physics, also thought that they had almost everything covered. They just needed to solve some "details" in the descriptions of something called Black Radiation, and everything would be peachy.
Dark matter is prone to become an issue that will be handled through changing perceptions, because it emerged from a scientific flow of thoughts, not direct empirical discovery. It's a subject of dispute anyway, and for good reasons.
Watching that sprite slo mo is an emotional awe moment. There is so much happening in that. If you look close, it's like a laser jet is shooting outward producing balls of mass that become crazy. Surely they are plasma balls, but WOW! At the end it looks smoky. I've never seen if that smoky look was a field effect that goes off like a light bulb or does it linger longer like smoke does?
You should check out Birkeland currents between sun and earth landing on earth creating low pressures and lightning!!!
The Earth should be thought of as a dielectric barrier discharge rather than a capacitor model. A large amount of electrons are moving from the Earth's interior toward the ionosphere. This movement of electrons not only causes weather phenomena, but also creates atmospheric pressure and prevents strong winds from blowing on the Earth's surface.
I have seen lightning go across the blue sky without a cloud in sight a few times. Thanks for the videos.
Bolt out of the blue... Usually associated with positive lightning from the upper part of the cloud, I believe. It can arc many miles away from the originating cloud but it's on the list to look at in more detail
Hello Gareth, i just learned about Telluric current and i am not sure i really understand it. Can you do a quick dive on that please? Thank you so much for everything.
Fascinating. So feels like the Electric Universe ideas are at work here. Particularly Wal Thornehill's thoughts on the consequencies of gravity having polarity so that globes are actually massive shells meaning we are effected by different interior events than we presently imagine, also that gravity is variable according to the charge of the globe.
I’m just a dumb farm hand, I love to watch lightning!
Same here. 😊
I'm an Old Physics Geek in LA, but there's nothing like being under some Kiowa, Kansas lightning! The complexity of electrical discharges is fascinating.
BOOM!
Thank you for this video. Fascinating; I did not know that lightning was so complex.. Subscribed.
Welcome!
Of course there is no conventional explanation for charge continuation. They believe the Earth, (and all objects in the universe for that matter), to be separate independently powered structures.
the ground is contently fed by the plasmoid at the core thats why,,,,, there is balance between the sky and ground and a total discharge cant happen in the air unless the energy increase is in orders of magnitude of what it currently is air is an excellent insulator
Steam plasma? This also gives mechanism to expanding earth and the flood being an upwelling.
@@whig01 the flood came from saturn mostly but some came from underground when the earth expanded the water in saturns rings are identical to earths water
Very good could not understand any thing you said keep up the good work
The double -ended tree simulation image reminds me strongly of the Mesopotamian depictions of the cosmic thunderbolt. I was always curious as to why it's shown as double-ended, but perhaps they knew something we're only just finding out?
very interesting observation
This is fabulous, thanks. I live on a boat with an aluminium mast. Masts are made with generally a flat cap plate with square edges. It only occurred to me recently that for a square edge conductive plate in a negative field at the meeting of the horizontal surface and the vertical surface there will be a tendency for the electrons to jump of the plate and become the start of an electrical path. Is this the correct conclusion? If so then are we advised to radius the edges of the cap plate top and bottom so the electric pressure is more uniform across the plate? Or is the overall field energy so great that local details are irrelevant? Then as the mast is aluminium and the stays are stainless steel (higher resistance) should we earth the mast to the water from the mast base? Is this inviting a lightning strike? Or should we encourage electrons to leave the mast with pointed wire spikes at the mast head as some systems suggest?
Is it really necessary to maintain the concepts of “positive” and “negative” charge? Wouldn’t things be more clearly understood/explained by talking about potential differences between points? Moreover, is it really necessary to have an electron? If the phenomenon we call electricity is actually an electromagnetic wave interaction, of differing orders of magnitude, between atoms (structures atom paradigm) and the Aether, couldn’t it be explained by field, wave, and function mathematics? Does it really make sense to have a “negative” particle and have something be negative to different degrees that are essentially negative negative and positive negative?
I agree. It would make more sense to just use terms like pressurized and depressurized, rather than positive and negative. Temperature, pressure and charge should never be reported as negative values. It makes no sense. Zero should be the baseline.
@@DegreesOfThree precisely
the important point is that we have different types of charges with different mobility moving towards different potentials
@@SeethePattern completely. 💯. Hopefully my comment did not come across in a petty condescending manner. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my comment. Greetings from Tennessee.
@@SeethePattern Can you define what you mean by potential in this context? I know you're familiar with the structured atom model. Is it your opinion that the electron is a physical particle that can exist independently of a proton? How is this 'negative charge' physically embodied?
Now that is how you make a thumbnail ; simple and contrasting, eye catching and to the point.
Took many iterations to get to that one. First one was horribly complex, trying to tell the whole story... still learning
Ridiculously interesting presentation! Well done!
If the ground is negatively charged why does an electroscope balance back to neutral when grounded
All things are relative.
I did not know positive lightning was radio quiet and that is of profound importance.
Is there a program about this?
Overall, I found this to be quite a positive video.
Are there any studies of the chemical composition of air after lightning strikes? what elements spill out from the discharge zone?
I'm trying to find some decent ones
@@SeethePattern Good
Thank you. Excellent video bringing together all aspects of lightning. I can tell you further that there is a fundamental connection between lightning and the double slit experiment.
very interested in that connection
I enjoyed the video. With the amperage of the positive lightning, it make me wonder the positive strike causes the fire events (house, fields, etc).
Thank you for another interesting episode. The complexity is compounded when considering ground to cloud lightning.
I wonder if the thermal differential creates a resistive load?
I have often thought that lightling when making contact with the ground may well be where some transmutation of the elements takes place. Seing that there are numerous types of lightning may be result of at least some of the different elements and minerals that are found in the earth..
Q: what proportion of Nitrogen to Oxygen ions do you see in different features of a strike? N2/O2, N/O2, N/O & N/O3.
I want to cover the chemical aspects of lightning as well. Need to find some good studies on it first
I'm willing to bet the fact that if the ground is negatively charged, and then so is the atmosphere at ground level, which would mean that when large masses of hot air rise, they also take their charge with them, and the air they displace moves in relation to that. Since the mass and inertia of air is stronger than the charge, you have a lot of charge separation due to air masses circulating and carrying aerosols, dust and water particles. The constant circulation of charged airmasses around the troposphere can explain a lot. You also have air cooling and falling back down, air that may have changed polarity due to mingling in the upper level circulation. These processes happen continuously, so it would make sense that spread out over time, large charge separations can build as a result.
I don't know how correct but I always looked at it as working similarly to a geiger mueller tube.
This video is well grounded in concept ⚡️
Love your channel, as well as a thunderbolt project, one common sense and Freethought
Love your insightful analysis
Very good.
Much ❤ Love
🌎🌏🌍☯️⚡️
Good one as usual.
But shouldn't the sun 'weather' play a role in this?
Thank you Gareth for everything!
that was really covered in the last one as the trigger. This is more about the asymmetry in lightning
Thank you for all the hard work. The lightning look awefully like trees with roots, or metal vains in mines, which is what i think makes gold.@@SeethePattern
Is radio the only part of the spectrum that would be measurable? Would IR reveal anything?
Exciting, electric, striking!
We love your videos!!!!!
thank you :)
2:55 Ionosphere mysterious realm, where HAM radio frequency bounces of and can carry signal over entire Earth circumference. Glass is better electrical capacitor than mica maybe charge of ionosphere in related with some firmament except it is concave not convex. NASA says it is charged plasma except why it is at that point. not explain how plasma stays stable.
What makes the light of the lightening?
That’s part of the discharge process. I’ve done a few videos explaining electrical discharges. Initially it will form as a corona discharge as the branches form, as the leader forms it will go from glow mode into arc mode once the current starts to flow.
How does the Seed of Life play a part?⚡
When you watch a film at one million frames per second you will clearly see the lightning bolt either start at the top and move to the ground or the ground up to the clouds. I have yet to see a bolt start in the middle and work it's way in both directions.
I think you misunderstand. What you see as the descending leader contains an opposite polarity tree feeding the downward branch. The image of the plane is probably the rare occasion that you can see both ends of the tree. Most of the time the opposite part of the tree is way above the bottom of the cloud and you will not be able to see it. Like a tree with a root system below the ground.
Small recommendation on your videos title : Don't tell people they're wrong, engage their curiousity instead ;)
Why can’t we see more of these videos pushed by the algorithm?
Why arnt we harvesting this energy !
wasnt that teslas intent"?
It's a lot to handle.
Space, Counter Space - ' Polarity ' - #Universe
Is this the proof that POSITRON exists.??
And when they annihilate,..BOOM.!!
The was stellar sir. My thanks.🝏🝏🝏🝏🝏