Man, she really had us going. She genuinely felt like she really cared about the girls in the hall, from getting them pizza, cheering them on for the Poe cup, etc. You would think in the year and a half she has been there, she might have gotten fond of a few of her students.
Unfortunately Revenge blinds and corrupts She doesn't care about anyone else except her goals She didn't care when some normies were killed as well. Nothing matters except resurrection of crackstone and killing all outcastes for revenge. Also i did wonder if apart of her did care
@@finckel2682 When I say Wednesday number 4, I count like this the original wenesday, series TV 2 , Scobby Animated Cartoon 3, The movies 4, the 2 glitch Wenesday which are 2 other movies that were only made because Universal sold the rights has nothing to do with the rest, like they don't respect the other lines but mix a little bit of everything, no musical tale I count as 1 only though they are different actresses, and 3D Cartoon movies 5 Netflix 6
What amazes me the most is that not only Christina and Jenna played Wednesday Addams at different periods, but they are also as tall as each other. They also have non-Germanic last names. Ricci is Italian and Ortega is Hispanic.
And let’s not forget that the two Wednesdays were the hero and villain of the show. The Batman to their Joker. Wednesday 1 is the villain and Wednesday 2 is the hero
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
I know Christina's playing a different character. But I would of love to see her play as the older version of Wednesday. Like a kind of future flashback or what if scenario. For me she still is the best Wednesday Adams. Loved her as Pocahontas in the play just brilliant.👍🏻
They do know. They are counterparties. how do you think she knew that Wednesday looked like her? As she gave a black rose like the poster of the second film of 93, she seems not to know her true story since she is having a strange, robotic behavior, she is being manipulated by the director, Tyler's mother may also be in the criminal scheme, Xavier too and they knew a spider wouldn't impress Wednesday because it has spiders, the carnivorous plants Morticia from the 90's also have I remember Uncle Fester fell into a greenhouse with vines and plants like that, and when that Wednesday he set it on fire at school she seems to have enjoyed it as it was the day she set the camp on fire
It made me very happy to learn that she was in the casting of the series, after so many years of remaining in the shadows it's as if she had never been stuck there because of all those incapable people who didn't see her Christina, You are one of the best, forever
As Zootopia Belleweather, it was sadly obvious she was evil. Too sweetly nerdly, please that's a HUGE red flag that something darker lurks underneath. Classic wolf in sheep's clothing. 😅😅
idk if it’s just me being dumb lol but I didn’t figure out Marilyn was the villain til like episode 7 when the therapist was accused which that didn’t really make sense or seem right and Marilyn was the only main character left who didn’t have a conclusion
Christina Ricci's appearance in the The Addams Family film series (1991 - 1993) and the television series Wednesday (2022) Movies * The Addams Family (1991) Wednesday Addams (Main Role / Protagonist) (11 years old) * Addams Family Values (1993) Wednesday Adams (Main Role / Protagonist) (13 years old)
TV Series * Wednesday (2022) Marilyn Thornhill / Laurel Gates (Support Role / Antagonist) (42 years old)
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
She reminds me of Bellweather from Zootopia when she uses the needle and gun like what Bellweather did to predator animals Also her hair with glasses reminds me of Estella aka Cruella De Vil
I just watched Addams Family Values for the first time. I must admit, I thought people might be hyping up Christina Ricci's portrayal of Wednesday due to nostalgia. Going in as a newcomer, I thought, "Surely she wasn't THAT good. She was a child!" I was wrong. Even as an untrained child, Ricci was already an exceptional actress. Wednesday could have easily come across as bland and one dimensional, especially without the character development she gets in this series, but Ricci's acting instincts were already spot on. She knew exactly how to balance out Wednesday's stoicism. For example, during the play scene, her tone and demeanour shifted while she was following the script as Pocahontas, then she seamlessly slipped back into Wednesday once she went off-script. Ricci went toe-to-toe with Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston at the age of 12. Bringing her back all these years later, even as a different character, was genius. The woman's still got it.
So her saying that her brother Garrett 'died for the cause', is she in denial or just doesn't know what actually happened? Meaning that her father gave him the poison and the order to kill as many students as he could because he was ashamed that a son of his could've fallen for an 'outcast' like Morticia Frump (to him I'm guessing it was bad enough that it was an attraction, let alone an infatuation that turned into an obsession) and demanded that he do something to prove that he was still 'worthy' to be part of the family? I mean that's hardly doing anything for a 'cause'. And then there's the fact that the reason why he died was because he got distracted from what he was sent to do by the sight of Morticia and Gomez sneaking out of the dance and became so enraged that he put chasing after them above poisoning the punch bowl. Which one is it do you think? Ignorance or denial? Though to be honest I think most fanatics are generally in a deep state of both ignorance and denial.
I think she doesn't know. He was a child, a teenager. Her story is very confusing, I don't think it's true. Even because she seems to know the whole school not just Morticia, she knew about Tyler's mother, Wenesday's power and her tastes, the family of other students, including Bella Donna are using her. I suspect Xavier he gave his cell phone logico who is a villain along with the director and Tyler's mother could be alive and be a villain too
@@jessicamaciel4946 unless Wednesday was right when she said that her father had records on every outcast attending the school at the time. If she managed to either take them with her when she was sent to England and faked her death or if she managed to track them down after coming back under a false name she would've been able to use them to track down where they ere now, especially after she started teaching there.
@@agenttheater5 And do you think it's strange that she's always with the director and other people with robotic behavior and the director is a metaphor and Xavier can design and create anything that can become a weapon, he knows Belladonna's code, whereas Cousin It seems being president, I don't think a doc would have all of that, I don't believe she's Normie
@@agenttheater5 To know Belladonna's code, you have to attend school, not just anyone, You're invited and she's the only teacher Normie, don't cheat on me Although far from the principal and the rest she seems to like Enid and Wednesday already which helped them entirely since she took Wednesday off the fence and she could also have been saved from the bees I don't think it ends like that and she's similar to Wednesday knowing Tim will have a plot Twiter even because there were a lot of references to the black rose it could be a witch wand remember she said she looked like Wednesday? what if it has timelines \ Multiverse something that's in fashion and Wednesday from the 90s came to save your other self? Well in Brazil Wednesday is called Wanda\Wandinha which means pilgrim which is what she did ne
I know her! That's Christina Ricci! She's known for Wednesday Addams in the Addams Family and Addams Family Values, Kathleen "Kat" Harvey from Casper, as well as Katrina Van Tassel from Tim Burton's The Legend of Sleepy Hollow! We should respect her, give her more attention, and give her an award.
We might see her again. We still don't know how she got back to Nevermore after not drowning as a child. She has to be a piece of a bigger part in the mystery moving forward.
In the beginning, she laments being an outsider among the outsiders, too normal to be an outsider, to strange to be a normie. That threw me off lol. It does make wonder if anything she said was genuine though because none of her nice moments were necessary to keep her cover. All she had to do was just keep to herself.
@@Unversed333 I do feel like the end result didn’t add up. She doesn’t seem to have much depth besides hating outsiders, yet she tried to bond with several of them. Especially Wednesday. She’s the one she told that she felt like an outsider to the outsiders and asks her why she won’t admit that Enid is a dear friend to her. She didn’t have to do any of that. Was it just to trick the viewers because it sounds like this was only done to fool the audience lol so that a Belleweather moment from Zootopia doesn’t happen.
@@sakonan4883 I think it's because of Thornhill's "too normal to be an outsider, too strange to be a normie" persona. She doesn't really belong anywhere. She doesn't fit in with regular people. She doesn't fit in at Nevermore. She's apparently unmarried and has no children. And her entire family is dead. Thornhill's completely alone. She doesn't know how to connect with people, either due to trauma, lack of social skills, or both. At the end of the day, I don't think revenge is her core motivation. It's the rationalisation she uses to explain her behaviour but her real motive is one that Thornhill probably isn't even fully conscious of. It's loneliness. Those moments of vulnerability and attempts to reach out seem to me like cries for help. Problem is, Thornhill was so focussed on Crackstone, whom she admitted was her personal hero, that she forgot - or didn't realize - that she could form real connections with other people if she gave up her crazy revenge scheme. Enid unintentionally summed up why Thornhill was so focussed on Crackstone instead of the people in the present with this simple line about Thing: "Wednesday, he's your family." Crackstone is Thornhill's ancestor. Basically, she thought he could solve all her problems due to them being family. Illogical and crazy but loneliness does that to people. On paper, Thornhill wasn't particularly well thought out in terms of motivation and consistency. However, Christina Ricci is such a talented actress who can shift between personas and emotional states so seamlessly that she managed to make it feel like Thornhill's inner life wasn't as straightforward as simply destroying outcasts for Crackstone's sake.
Im not exactly sure if Laurel is still alive or not , but if she is Wednesday better kill her in season 2 cause no matter of how good of a villain she is , she still has got go , if it wasnt for her Tyler would have probably never turned into an antagonist , i hope that she die’s a painfull death cause i seriously hate two faced psycho’s like her , her fake friendly smile was really annoying to me. Season 2 better be satisfying cause this one left me confused and with a lot of question’s , there’s still a lot of thing’s we dont know yet , i dont mind complex storytelling but not this much braindamage cause i seriously dont have a single fucking clue what is going to happen , i feel very confused ☹️
I like her as the villain. Christina Ricci shifted personas seamlessly once the jig was up. Her ability to flow from one persona into another so effortlessly is something she's had ever since she was a child, as shown by the Pocahontas play in The Addams Family Values.
The most memorable example of passing the torch I've seen in a while
agreed
She didn't want to shoot the bees, she wanted to shoot the principal and students... 100% upset...
Man, she really had us going. She genuinely felt like she really cared about the girls in the hall, from getting them pizza, cheering them on for the Poe cup, etc. You would think in the year and a half she has been there, she might have gotten fond of a few of her students.
Unfortunately
Revenge blinds and corrupts
She doesn't care about anyone else except her goals
She didn't care when some normies were killed as well.
Nothing matters except resurrection of crackstone and killing all outcastes for revenge.
Also i did wonder if apart of her did care
Yeah , and even after being raised by that xenophobic Gates , she might’ve seen them in a different light
Who else thought that “Velma” would be the villain? Clever how the original actor of Wednesday in an older film is the Master.
Who’s velma, I remember someone being called Velma but I forgot
@@amoonsspirit2785 actually, it's Jenna Ortega's Wednesday called Velma by sheriff. He called her that because she was doing her own detective work
@@amoonsspirit2785 she somewhat looks like Velma from Scooby doo to me tbh
@@WonderbrewA13X she almost played Velma in the live action movie
@@austinpearce5442 interesting :0
I friggin' love that the twist villain of Wednesday is Wednesday.
I can’t believe that the original Wednesday was the villain all along!
me neither
The original Wednesday is Lisa Loring. Christina Ricci is the 4th Wednesday.
@@finckel2682 no cartoon wednesday is a original. the Wednesday of Chistina is a 4TH Wdnesday and Wednesday of Jenna is a 6
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@@jessicamaciel4946 But Lisa was first one to play her TV adapted character.
@@finckel2682 When I say Wednesday number 4, I count like this the original wenesday, series TV 2 , Scobby
Animated Cartoon 3, The movies 4, the 2 glitch Wenesday which are 2 other movies that were only made because Universal sold the rights has nothing to do with the rest, like they don't respect the other lines but mix a little bit of everything, no musical tale I count as 1 only though they are different actresses, and 3D Cartoon movies 5 Netflix 6
What amazes me the most is that not only Christina and Jenna played Wednesday Addams at different periods, but they are also as tall as each other. They also have non-Germanic last names. Ricci is Italian and Ortega is Hispanic.
Lisa Loring
@@anggiejhovanny9775 Lisa was 5'8'' as an adult. Christina and Jenna are 5'1''.
Christina has an Italian name, but she's mostly Scots-Irish..
@@BB13131313 agree. She's only quarter Italian, according to Ethnicelebs
I lost my mind when Christina Ricci played Marilynn! The old Wednesday meeting new Wednesday.
And let’s not forget that the two Wednesdays were the hero and villain of the show. The Batman to their Joker.
Wednesday 1 is the villain and Wednesday 2 is the hero
@@josearielortiz2055 Actually, Wednesday 2 and Wednesday 3
She's beautiful to Christina Ricci!!!!!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
@@josearielortiz2055 Even because Tim Burton was going to direct the 91 film, he doesn't do anything for nothing
"Never meet your heroes" 😂😂
Especially if it’s a creepy homicidal pilgrim
You'd have thought as a plant expert she'd know how ridiculous it was to try and shoot bees
Ig she was just scared or sum
Well, we all do stupid things while panicking
She was just panicking, she brought a few of the bees too he’ll with her😊
11:16 That is one of the funniest scenes in the whole series 🤣🤣🤣
I thought the funniest was when Wednesday said the fudge store is “ ye olde diabetes in a box “
Hahahaha really 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@@theamazingandtalentedblake8296🤣🤣
I don’t now why?! But i really love her style and than kind botanical teacher vibes. And why she looks like Cruella (Estella).
IKRR!! AND HER GLASSES WAS SAMEEE(NOT THAT SAME)
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
Love her
Her smile is graceful
Marylin thornhill is so cute. i cant still believe she is villian in the first season
@@МарияЧернова-ы1м same
Omg, yes
@@МарияЧернова-ы1м😢
Hands down best character 🔥
Yessss ❤
She's a perfect villain
Yes
THANK YOU!
I WAS SEARCHING FOR SCENE COMPILATION OF HER FOR SO LONG AND NOTHING!
THANK YOU!
I know Christina's playing a different character. But I would of love to see her play as the older version of Wednesday. Like a kind of future flashback or what if scenario. For me she still is the best Wednesday Adams. Loved her as Pocahontas in the play just brilliant.👍🏻
She still as beautiflul as when she was Wednesday :D
Christina aged like fine wine
@@ChrisWolff2013Facts.
I DIDNT HEED THE WARNING OF CHARACTER RED FLAGS AND I GOT FUCKING ATTACHED TO HER AND I WAS SO DEVASTATED
Same.
I cryed when she revealed shes a villain.
She was just too sweet to be evil.
@@sneka2055 THANK GOD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
I knew that something seemed off about her because of how she was acting too nice but I also suspected the therapist and Principal Weems
@@jellorbs495 i think shes actually sweet but she has trauma that messed with her mind.
@@sneka2055 YES YES LETS BELIEVE THAT
They don't know it, but in another universe they were the Wednesday sisters.
They do know. They are counterparties. how do you think she knew that Wednesday looked like her? As she gave a black rose like the poster of the second film of 93, she seems not to know her true story since she is having a strange, robotic behavior, she is being manipulated by the director, Tyler's mother may also be in the criminal scheme, Xavier too and they knew a spider wouldn't impress Wednesday because it has spiders, the carnivorous plants Morticia from the 90's also have I remember Uncle Fester fell into a greenhouse with vines and plants like that, and when that Wednesday he set it on fire at school she seems to have enjoyed it as it was the day she set the camp on fire
More she is a variant in another universe.
It made me very happy to learn that she was in the casting of the series, after so many years of remaining in the shadows it's as if she had never been stuck there because of all those incapable people who didn't see her
Christina, You are one of the best, forever
I still can’t believe my friends were able to figure out it was her all along simply because they noticed she lied about her coffee order
we never found out what wednesday did to Laurel Gates so I'm hoping she's still alive and will appear in Series 2
Alive, but scarred by the bee's sting
As Zootopia Belleweather, it was sadly obvious she was evil. Too sweetly nerdly, please that's a HUGE red flag that something darker lurks underneath. Classic wolf in sheep's clothing. 😅😅
I was thinking the same thing
idk if it’s just me being dumb lol but I didn’t figure out Marilyn was the villain til like episode 7 when the therapist was accused which that didn’t really make sense or seem right and Marilyn was the only main character left who didn’t have a conclusion
I would’ve guess 100% but what stopped me was that 1. I was sure it was Dr. Kinbott and 2. I didn’t think they would make the og Wednesday a villain…
Wednesday blimey you’ve changed a lot over the years
Laurel gates is sooo evil, she is like a villainess
It’s crazy that she stabbed thing
Oh my god she stabbed THING?!
@@sheilarelox376 Wasn't that obvious, considering she was the dorm mom of Wednesday and Enid's hall, and had access to their room.
Fact that Mrs. Thornhill is played by Christina Ricci aka Wednesday from 1990’s Addams Family.
misty in an alternate universe.
😂
The only thing i mostly cared about is that ms thornhill doesnt actually need glasses
OMG I NEEEED IT SO SO MUCH,THANK YOU
Christina Ricci's appearance in the The Addams Family film series (1991 - 1993) and the television series Wednesday (2022)
Movies
* The Addams Family (1991) Wednesday Addams (Main Role / Protagonist) (11 years old)
* Addams Family Values (1993) Wednesday Adams (Main Role / Protagonist) (13 years old)
TV Series
* Wednesday (2022) Marilyn Thornhill / Laurel Gates (Support Role / Antagonist) (42 years old)
Dude, and the black rose, from the banner of the 93 movie, which she holds a basket this Wednesday, she kept so she could give 1 for this new Wednesday, I feel like she was manipulated by the director and the rest of the group, she always is with other villainous people, the new Wenesday herself knows that everything is part of a great plan, and this old Wenesday has already said that this new one is very similar to her, that she was not accepted by either the normal or the excluded precisely because she did not release her witch power, the carnivorous plants Morticia already had and she inherited it, I believe in this plot
Even because Tim Burton was going to direct the 91 film, he doesn't do anything for nothing
Thank you ❤
Her end seems to parallel that of another very similar baddie: Wittebane/Belos from The Owl House (who's stomped by Eda, Raine and King into goo).
Christina Ricci 😍😍😍
She reminds me of Bellweather from Zootopia when she uses the needle and gun like what Bellweather did to predator animals
Also her hair with glasses reminds me of Estella aka Cruella De Vil
Red head Crulella and she did play the role of Wednesday when younger who knew she would be the Hyde’s master
Love this twist villain
I just watched Addams Family Values for the first time. I must admit, I thought people might be hyping up Christina Ricci's portrayal of Wednesday due to nostalgia. Going in as a newcomer, I thought, "Surely she wasn't THAT good. She was a child!"
I was wrong.
Even as an untrained child, Ricci was already an exceptional actress. Wednesday could have easily come across as bland and one dimensional, especially without the character development she gets in this series, but Ricci's acting instincts were already spot on. She knew exactly how to balance out Wednesday's stoicism. For example, during the play scene, her tone and demeanour shifted while she was following the script as Pocahontas, then she seamlessly slipped back into Wednesday once she went off-script.
Ricci went toe-to-toe with Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston at the age of 12. Bringing her back all these years later, even as a different character, was genius. The woman's still got it.
So her saying that her brother Garrett 'died for the cause', is she in denial or just doesn't know what actually happened? Meaning that her father gave him the poison and the order to kill as many students as he could because he was ashamed that a son of his could've fallen for an 'outcast' like Morticia Frump (to him I'm guessing it was bad enough that it was an attraction, let alone an infatuation that turned into an obsession) and demanded that he do something to prove that he was still 'worthy' to be part of the family? I mean that's hardly doing anything for a 'cause'. And then there's the fact that the reason why he died was because he got distracted from what he was sent to do by the sight of Morticia and Gomez sneaking out of the dance and became so enraged that he put chasing after them above poisoning the punch bowl.
Which one is it do you think? Ignorance or denial? Though to be honest I think most fanatics are generally in a deep state of both ignorance and denial.
I think she doesn't know. He was a child, a teenager. Her story is very confusing, I don't think it's true. Even because she seems to know the whole school not just Morticia, she knew about Tyler's mother, Wenesday's power and her tastes, the family of other students, including Bella Donna are using her. I suspect Xavier he gave his cell phone logico who is a villain along with the director and Tyler's mother could be alive and be a villain too
@@jessicamaciel4946 unless Wednesday was right when she said that her father had records on every outcast attending the school at the time. If she managed to either take them with her when she was sent to England and faked her death or if she managed to track them down after coming back under a false name she would've been able to use them to track down where they ere now, especially after she started teaching there.
@@agenttheater5 And do you think it's strange that she's always with the director and other people with robotic behavior and the director is a metaphor and Xavier can design and create anything that can become a weapon, he knows Belladonna's code, whereas Cousin It seems being president, I don't think a doc would have all of that, I don't believe she's Normie
@@jessicamaciel4946 interesting points
@@agenttheater5 To know Belladonna's code, you have to attend school, not just anyone, You're invited and she's the only teacher Normie, don't cheat on me Although far from the principal and the rest she seems to like Enid and Wednesday already which helped them entirely since she took Wednesday off the fence and she could also have been saved from the bees I don't think it ends like that and she's similar to Wednesday knowing Tim will have a plot Twiter even because there were a lot of references to the black rose it could be a witch wand remember she said she looked like Wednesday? what if it has timelines \ Multiverse something that's in fashion and Wednesday from the 90s came to save your other self? Well in Brazil Wednesday is called Wanda\Wandinha which means pilgrim which is what she did ne
Anyone else get noticeable ‘Scooby Doo and the Witch’s Ghost’ vibes when she was revealed to be the villain and proceeded to resurrect Crackstone? 😅
Tuesday & Wednesday - The Series
"I'm a homacitel manic, they look just like everyone else". - Wednesday Addams. "I think we are alot alike" - Miss thornhill.
can you do a twixtor like this with Wednesday?
So like... Anyone else have a mad crush on her, or is it just me..?
upd: i’m still downbad
you're not alone.. 🤭
bro same
NOOOO
WHY
when you watch the whole series of wednesday you will see..
@@4.n.n13 Sorry what? I have watched the entire series
So did Tyler 💀
I figured it was her around episode 5
I know her! That's Christina Ricci! She's known for Wednesday Addams in the Addams Family and Addams Family Values, Kathleen "Kat" Harvey from Casper, as well as Katrina Van Tassel from Tim Burton's The Legend of Sleepy Hollow! We should respect her, give her more attention, and give her an award.
thank you!!!
She remindes me of piper shaw and Jill roberts from the scream franchise
She was my favorite character and she's the bad guy
TYSMM!!!!!
Funny this is the OG Wednesday. Crazy
I really liked her character, shame she turned out....like....yeah :l
It will be? I think she's too smart to die for little bees
We might see her again. We still don't know how she got back to Nevermore after not drowning as a child. She has to be a piece of a bigger part in the mystery moving forward.
I hate this woman she betrayed me 😔
how
What do you mean how she betrayed Nevermore, manipulated Tyler, and caused so much death because most of the deaths were by Hyde.
She was my favorite character until a plot twist happened and now I hate her
In the beginning, she laments being an outsider among the outsiders, too normal to be an outsider, to strange to be a normie. That threw me off lol. It does make wonder if anything she said was genuine though because none of her nice moments were necessary to keep her cover. All she had to do was just keep to herself.
You'd figure spending over a year with these outcasts, her viewpoint would have changed, or she would have grown fond of her students
@@Unversed333 I do feel like the end result didn’t add up. She doesn’t seem to have much depth besides hating outsiders, yet she tried to bond with several of them. Especially Wednesday. She’s the one she told that she felt like an outsider to the outsiders and asks her why she won’t admit that Enid is a dear friend to her. She didn’t have to do any of that. Was it just to trick the viewers because it sounds like this was only done to fool the audience lol so that a Belleweather moment from Zootopia doesn’t happen.
@@sakonan4883 I think it's because of Thornhill's "too normal to be an outsider, too strange to be a normie" persona. She doesn't really belong anywhere. She doesn't fit in with regular people. She doesn't fit in at Nevermore. She's apparently unmarried and has no children. And her entire family is dead.
Thornhill's completely alone. She doesn't know how to connect with people, either due to trauma, lack of social skills, or both. At the end of the day, I don't think revenge is her core motivation. It's the rationalisation she uses to explain her behaviour but her real motive is one that Thornhill probably isn't even fully conscious of.
It's loneliness.
Those moments of vulnerability and attempts to reach out seem to me like cries for help.
Problem is, Thornhill was so focussed on Crackstone, whom she admitted was her personal hero, that she forgot - or didn't realize - that she could form real connections with other people if she gave up her crazy revenge scheme. Enid unintentionally summed up why Thornhill was so focussed on Crackstone instead of the people in the present with this simple line about Thing:
"Wednesday, he's your family."
Crackstone is Thornhill's ancestor. Basically, she thought he could solve all her problems due to them being family. Illogical and crazy but loneliness does that to people.
On paper, Thornhill wasn't particularly well thought out in terms of motivation and consistency. However, Christina Ricci is such a talented actress who can shift between personas and emotional states so seamlessly that she managed to make it feel like Thornhill's inner life wasn't as straightforward as simply destroying outcasts for Crackstone's sake.
Do mary andrews scenes from riverdale pretty please 🙏
She’s like the female version of Ra’s Al Ghul from The Dark Knight trilogy which ironically Ra’s Al Ghul had a daughter named Talia Al Ghul
How so?
@@Unversed333 Like Ra’s Al Ghul in Batman Begins, she start off as a great mentor to the main character until it turns out that she’s a twist villain
@@twinpinesmall7510 I wouldn't call her a mentor. More like someone that Wednesday grew to trust only to betray her.
So is Marilyn dead or not by the end of series?
I watched this whole show and I heard that Christina Richie was in it, but I’m like who’s Christina Richie and then I found out it was her in a wig
4:32
Jesus the height difference.
Can you do Wednesday
hell nah this would be a torture cuz she has too much scenes😭
@@malyvescenes many*
oh yes i'm sorry english is not my first language
For me Christina ricci is Wednesday
me too
Wednesday vs Wednesday
My name is Shahid nice meeting you Wednesday love you so much
She more or less looks like Avril Lavigne when she put on that ouftit in "Girlfriend"
how can i download it?
6:22
She not wrong tho. Lol
Donovan galpin all scene please
@Tanya Janwatanagool Donovan galpin is Tyler's father
2:39 my ❤
Whsjnshe had that big book inwas like more foran languages
K I LOVE YOU
MERLTIA WEDNESDAY
Im not exactly sure if Laurel is still alive or not , but if she is Wednesday better kill her in season 2 cause no matter of how good of a villain she is , she still has got go , if it wasnt for her Tyler would have probably never turned into an antagonist , i hope that she die’s a painfull death cause i seriously hate two faced psycho’s like her , her fake friendly smile was really annoying to me.
Season 2 better be satisfying cause this one left me confused and with a lot of question’s , there’s still a lot of thing’s we dont know yet , i dont mind complex storytelling but not this much braindamage cause i seriously dont have a single fucking clue what is going to happen , i feel very confused ☹️
What if xavier is being controlled by Thornhill and it was him that bought the Hyde to life as she is a normie
Is xavier the one who kills the Hyde he knows how to paint and bring a bigger monster to kill the Hyde his paintings come alive
😅😅😅
This
gay🌈
horrible editing
I can’t believe she became a bad girl I wish somebody else was a villain instead of Marilyn. I liked it her she was sweet, kind, and beautiful too
I like her as the villain. Christina Ricci shifted personas seamlessly once the jig was up. Her ability to flow from one persona into another so effortlessly is something she's had ever since she was a child, as shown by the Pocahontas play in The Addams Family Values.