We re-home a beehive Surrendered due to being Africanized honey bees, we were told. Unwrap with us
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2023
- A friend asked me to help out his buddy. The buddy had a hive near a family's primary residence. I was told the hive had been usurped and gone from mostly docile to very defense africanism bees.
We usually will not buy mean bees, it just make sense in our operation. If I have time I will usually re-home the bees if the owner just wants them removed, otherwise the pretty much face death at this point. So we take them, put the brood to work elsewhere. Give the remaining colony a chance to to re-queen with a grafted cell or just shake them out in a large yard.
These bees turned out to be great. I'm not sure why they were labeled "Africanized". In afterthought I wish I had keep them more in tact. I went ahead with my original plan. We made 3 splits from the 9 frames of capped brood. The original still may swam, but as of now she is laying. We will re-queen them in a month or two.
These bees are really good, not sure why they were labeled as such. - Домашні улюбленці та дикі тварини
It's interesting watching bee keepers how they approach there bees,some tear through them and others nice and gentle.
I need to slow down for these and remember my audience.
Alot of tough customers on here. I enjoyed it. I think its an important lesson for folks getting into bees that they are gonna get LOTS of calls to come pick up "africanized" hives.... they seldom if ever actually are. And.... as far as working too fast, not everybody has 1 or 2 hives they can spend a hour on , gotta get through them yards fast and efficient. Just found your channel, loving the videos!
Relocating an Africanized bee hive is like relocating a land mine..
looked like on the 5 frame the time you turned to put it in the nuke she run across the frame quarter down with a
white dot. I know it was 5 months a go. I think you could use cell it would save time at least 2 week 7 or 8 emergency queens.
Bill that spot in the video haunts me now. I’ve gone over it a few times in the past trying to figure out if that’s the queen. I think it a worker with jelly in her back. I split these girls up. Made 3 bucks and let the parent re-queen. They were advertised as Africanized. I bet the family hosting them witnessed a swarm and thought it meant something else. These girls re-queened gentle as can be.
I suspect he already knew they weren't hot bees because he didn't even bother zipping up his hood.
I suspected, picking them up was a breeze. That would not have been so something. Usually they aren't Africanized. Its been a few years since we've seen some.
Yep I'd take them all day long. I have a couple that what I call "cashew" me..... Look down and they bite and sting at the same time. The worst of it is they're sure eager to get in the hole I might leave by the zipper. That's when things really liven up. I'm another dfw bee keeper for 3 years now.
Hey Leon, Are you affiliated with any of the area clubs? I spend my time with the Denton club. Thanks for watching.
@@honeybeesunlimited no I've just mostly learned by UA-cam University. Very occasionally reading.
UA-cam is wheres its at. Anything you need to know. I learned so much until I wanted to make a living at it@@leoncarpenter958
So if they aren’t Africanized, why still kill queen?
Introduce our genetics, then we know the age of the queen. We like to re-queen our hives every year. We have surplus queens so it doesn't cost us anything and then we are more sure they will respond like the rest of our colonies.
On average how many bees die during inspection?
There isa lot of difference between African bees and a queenless hive or a dearth period with robbing going on.
Yes, even just bad days.
We have descendents of them. But are GAHb. They're gentle, despite what rumors exist.
These are tame regular Apis M. I hope we come across a true one one day. The different is obvious. We had a big freeze a few years ago that pushed the feral colonies south. One of their traits is a small colony, this leaves them susceptible to bad winters. Thats why they only made it into the south US.
8:00 i seen a dot on one like the paint
8:02 silly dotted q this dumb ass doesn't even bother
Think its jelly from my hive tool
Does the honey taste different from an Africanized beehive versus non-Africanized?
there is a youtube channel showing the difference between the honey, they really stated it was sweeter, and much darker
@@vickyesperanza8267 Interesting....
No, taste of the honey is solely based on what they are foraging on. Gary
I would keep a queen that produces such gentle tempered bees over a new queen any day. Give them proper frames in proper boxes and you might have a super producer.
You no nothing about the queens we breed ourselves yet pass judgement on them as being inferior and think gentle is the only trait we look for.
I'll take, gentle, big brood producer, hygienic, honey producers over the unknown that is just gentle. How old is this queen? She may be about to fail. We just don't know, but we are going to keep her because she is gentle. That makes little sense to me as a beekeeper. Gary
A perfectly calm hive can go ape shix overnight and vice versa. Working them without smoke on a cloudy day cause you're in a hurry will pisz them off quickly. Once you've had a veil covered and individual bad asses burrowing through the zipper flap it's hard to see that hive as anything but dangerous.
These bees are fine, cranky from being queen-less after a swarm. Happens a lot, folks give up on them without understanding what's happening. We gladly take the free bees.
@@honeybeesunlimited in the month since I've decided bees are like a crazy girlfriend. You never know who your getting until you get there. Just show up and take it.
Why would you want to kill the queen when the hive is bot aggressive? That doesn't make sense to me.
Since last place they were hadn't opened the top in a long time, that might explain any irritability.i am glad you didn't kill her.
We like to know the genetics and history of the queens. We raise our own and just prefer going with what we know when we bring in unknown bees to our apiary.
I WOULD TAKE THAT HIVE ANYDAY, I HAVE HAD A FEW THAT WILL STING THE FACE MASK AND GLOVES THE WHOLE TIME I'M IN THEM , THEN THEY FOLLOW ME A WAYS INTO THE PASTURE, HAD TO REQUEEN THOSE, I BET THEY HAD SWARMED ALREADY AND THAT WAS A NEW QUEEN, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT LOOKED LIKE THEY HAD NOT BEEN IN IT A WHILE.
You nailed, they recently swarmed. Re-queened and they are doing fine. Are you heading to the LBA convention at the end of the month? I signed up and I ready to check it out. I hear it is a good one.
The bees have swarmed and the queen cells are there new queen
That is exactly what happened. In the end they made a fine queen bred with our drones.
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No wonder they are called Africanized bees, they are treated very roughly. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
They were just queenless, once they re-queened. Gentle as can be.
They don’t seem aggressive they seem agitated.
Exactly. Turned out to be queenless af a swarm. Once they re-queened they calmed right down.
There sure were a lot of bees though
Looked like a bee with a white at the bottom of frame at 07:47. Not sure though
Think its jelly from my hive tool
What does "Americanized" & hot mean??
To my understanding tbey would be a cross between tge europen and african honey bee?
Africanized bees escaped from a breeding experiment in Brazil. It took many years for the bees to work into North America. The bees are more defensive of their hives and have a larger protection force. Most honey bees will defend the hives about 6 feet out. The honey bees from Africa protect their hives up to 50 feet out. They also have a much larger security force. Was a big problem at first. The genetics in our area has been breed back out and mostly neutralized. ‘Hot bees or Spicy bees’ is just a term we use to describe defensive bees.
Definitely not Africanized. I would say that the camera person should stand in the back of the hive in the future. I have a feeling this hive just swarmed. They maybe defensive from not having a queen. But I have definitely had hives that were more spicy than this. You kills like 3 bees early on. Yet you didn’t get lit up from them. They just aren’t happy.
Exactly. They swarmed, they have requested now and they are doing great. Nice docile hive.
If they were African, they would be boiling out of that hive.
Yeah, These were a nice find. Usually the case. People pass judgement on their bees after one bad day. Gary
If hot they would be blowing out of there like nobodies business.
You are correct sir! Sorry no prize for the right answer.
It's queen that determines attitude. Change her out
Roger that! These ended up re-queening and mating with our boys. Caught them after swarming.
Definitely not Africanized lol
They rarely are. Bees have bad days to. Can't judge them off one instance.
Definitely not gentle. Typical business.
They requeened on their on mated with our good ole boys. They are gentle as can be now. Not really typical business for us. More of a public service. Someone calls saying they cannot handle their bees, then we are happy to go grab them and put them to work. We had a wicked winter storm a few years ago and it seemed to push the truly vile bees further south. Africanized bees typically keep smaller colonies and can’t survive harsh winters. It’s been nice not having them around. Or maybe it’s because we have so many more beekeepers in our flooding the scene with less defensive drone stock. Heck, I don’t know. Just trying to make a living as a beekeeper. Thanks for watching and engaging. We love the support. Gary
This is no way as AFRICANIZED BEES. They are very normal. If these are Africanized Bees, your veil would be covered with bees as soon as you open that cover.
I agree. We get these a lot. People have one bad experience with their bees and they label them Africanized. I usually go scoop them up. It’s free bee that had a bad day. We haven’t had many Africanized colonies in our area for the last few years. A major winter storm a few years ago seems to have pushed them south. The bees we have been trapped lately ante pretty gentle.
Why kill the queen of you don't think they're Africanized?
So he can be their queen
Just because they aren’t Africanized doesn’t mean you want those genetics. These bees are runny. I would requeen for that trait alone. They aren’t horrible though.
We like to be sure. We also want to take a young queen into winter. We instal our own queen then we are sure of the genetics. Also old queens fail without warning, we are self sufficient and have plenty of bred queens to re-queen hives without having to give it much thought. Sometimes queens get replaced in our operation just because we saw her and knew we had surplus.
You do not work slow enough to not bother the hive. I have worked with a friend to learn how to manage a hive. No wonder the bees are agressive towards you and the camera. I have not seen bees behave like that, attacking the camera. When you work slowly, the bees accept you and will not sting. Working quickly and killing bees in the process will make them attack because the phermones are released. You want the bees to work for you, then treat them with respect. Handle them gently. So it takes 10 to 15 minutes more for each hive - so what?
Exactly my thought... I just didn't have the balls to comment that exact assessment. But I'm glad someone else did. Gotta work slower with the respect of the bees.
But I guess he'll learn the hard way thr more he does it.
I agree to an extent. Frame time and working gloves will teach you how to work with speed and finesse. These bees are queen-less after a swarm. Thats the only reason they are cranky. Settled right down once the new queen mated. Some days we are in 150-200 a day. 150 hives X 15 mins = 37.5hrs. your math is flawed. We are a commercial operation. Not a small scale operation.
Africanized bees don’t care how slow you work them when they first came into Texas I had 2 hives 9 deeps of brood one laying a hive tool on top would make them boil out by hundreds 50 or 60 on each hand and would stay with you until you got inside.
The other one all you had to do was walk by it.
Ordered 10 queens and mad splits.
You and killer bee guy need to team up.really can't tell if hot when you stir up hive.not much sense there.i don't recommend beginners watching you.
Not sure what you mean. I have no interest in killer bees or folks that advertise as killer bee guys. We cannot tolerate them in most of our yards too much liability. Plus they just aren’t pleasant to work. These bees were queenless from a recent swarm. Obviously not Africanized as advertised from the folks that surrendered the colony. So many times folks judge their hives behavior in error.
Killer bee guy doesn't keep the killer bees, he gets called to exterminate them. I think he is in Arizona but im not sure
Those are docile bees. I clicked DISLIKE because you know better than to offer up click-BAIT.
Thats what they were billed to use when we were asked to remove them.