There is an administrative way to declare the relationship if you have evidence, time and still on the relationship but just because cultural differences the person don’t wanna sign any papers until you get married.
I need your help and advice please. We met and lived together for 4 months (same home, in Japan). She then moved to Australia on working holiday visa. I had to move back to my country in Europe, I lost my job. I got a new job in Australia, but her visa is expiring, so I would need to bring her as a partner. We lived together for 4 months, the 9 months long distance. Do you think we can get the de facto?
I have some confusion regarding the documentation requirements for the partner visa application. In a previous video, it was mentioned that the officer would review the documentation from the date of the application and that sufficient evidence is necessary. If a couple enters into a civil union a year after submitting their application, could this pose an issue since they were not considered de facto partners prior to the application?
It is not mandatory to have a civil union certificate before lodgement to waive the 12 month rule, however, it is advisable that they do so, so that it can be assessed as part of 'Time of Application' facts. The best way to look at it is that these are all separate things: - Waiving the 12 month rule - Showing you are defacto when the application is submitted - Showing you are still defacto when the application is ready to be granted
Hi Martin, my boyfriend stayed with my family and I for a year on a WHV visa, i couldn’t add him on the lease due to working rights (lease is under mine and my sisters name) but i added him on the internet bill and he paid it monthly and he would help around the house chores/ buy groceries. He and I also opened up a shared bank account. I’m wondering if this is enough to classify us as a de facto relationship or will we still need to register our relationship?
Simple rule of thumb...always register when you can (i.e. you live in a State/Territory that you can). It means you only need to prove you are defacto NOW, as opposed to 12 months ago. Big difference in risk and documents required :)
Hi Martin, thank you for this amazing series, it’s really helping me and my girlfriend at the moment. We currently live in Ireland (but not together) and have been together 2.5 years. My GF is an Australian resident and we are moving to Melbourne in February 2025. Because we have not lived together due to rental issues at home in Ireland, would it be a good idea to do the civil union as soon as we arrive, and then almost a year later when my WHV runs out to apply for the partner visa? Meaning we would have almost a year of living together + expenses and accounts? Thanks for the help Martin!
Are you sure (SA) South Australia isn't on the list for registering a relationship? Most places I have looked it is only WA and NT that isn't on the list. Please confirm this if you could. Much appreciated.
Hi, i know this is not relevant to the 12month rule directly but we will apply for 820/801 as well. So, on the gov website it says if the applicant is not on a substantive visa, has to meet additional criteria. In my case, my gf got her bridging b visa and visa refusal for the student visa application on the same day. We appealed it and she is still on the bridging b visa. I know we can still apply for the partner visa during the appeal process but wondering what would those extra requirements be.
I have valid tourist visa how can we apply for de factor relationship if my partner is still not divorced and I am living offshore how can we eligible the 12 month rule being together since only max 3 months to stay in australia?
Ideally, that would be 12 months of living together in some way or another (which could mean accumulating time spent under the same roof by traveling to see each other). We would also suggest opening up joint bank accounts as soon as possible. The length of the relationship as a whole (i.e. how long you have dated for) would also be a strong factor (i.e. couples that have dated/been in a long distance relationship for multiple years would be in a better position 12 months of that could have been defacto). More information on our PVS Training available here ua-cam.com/play/PLYYVSd6BFsiddD1ftIzEA5vFD9_IRiLd1.html
Hi Martin very well explained. If the partner has sponsored more than 2 times before is there still a possibility of reconsideration of the partner visa if the relationship is more than 7 years .
do you need to stay together to be defacto? due to work my partner and i live in differnet cities, however i spent 1 year living at his place, otherwise of our 5 year relationship we spent all christmasses together, most weekends and semester holidays which are aprrox. 4 months/ year
Hi folks, Does any of people in here applied for 820 visa for de facto while de facto relationship does not meet the minimum 12 months requirement for the visa and get granted for any circumtances ? Me and my partner has started dating but live separately on February 2021 but since she got pregnant then we decided to move together on April 2021 (our de facto began). Now, we have our little precious one but our de facto relationship doesn’t meet 12 month minimum requirement. My current visa is Work and Holiday Visa (462) and will expire soon on February 2022. However, even if i wait untill my current visa expired and apply for 820 it still not meet the minimum requirement. Can someone help or give me an advice or any of you has similar circumtance like me ? Any help are much appreciated ! Thank you and cheers
Hi Martin, thank you for making this video. It's a great resource of information! Just regarding the point on applying for registering my relationship after lodging my onshore visa application 820, does it apply to marriage? I am currently on an expiring tourist visa and would like to apply for the visa soon. My partner and I have been together for 7+ years although we have not lived together for 12 months and we are not able to register our relationship as we are in WA. I have only arrived in WA in March due to Covid travel restrictions and our 'financial' and 'cohabitation' evidence are very new. We do plan to get married in the next couple of months. Would that have a negative impact on our visa application when we getting married after visa lodging rather than before? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Great Content! Thank you! May I ask you a quick question? I have heard that it is possible to apply for 309 and 100 at the same time if the relationships are more than 3 years long. Is that true? thanks in advance! Looking forward to your next videos!
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Now due to covid n arrange marriage To be my partner was an australian pr We have just started relation So we want to marry as he cant come so is their any change in this regard
Hi Martin, you mention the Civil Union can be applied for AFTER your TOA, but in your module 2 video in the FB group, you mention the Defacto relationship needs to be in place at the TOA. Does this mean in theory it would be best to register the Civil Union prior to TOA, which waives the 12 month defacto criteria? Would it hold more strength to have the Civil Union in place at TOA?
Hey Micky - let’s simplify this: Registering a Civil Union in order to waive the 12 month rule? You can register anytime up until a decision is made by the DHA (ie after lodgement is still accepted) Registering a Civil Union in order to waive the 12 month rule AND strengthen your facts at TOA? Then you should register before the visa is applied for. Hope that clarifies!
It is not clear, where is the point of the couple had sex ? Is it at the point of exclusive? Or is it at the point of de facto ? We have to prove the couple can have sex everyday there after ?
Good day to you, i would just like to ask more info about the visa as i was applying for a tourist visa in australia and it is sponsored by my partner but sad to say it was denied. The reason is that they dont see any reason for me coming back in my country which is philippines. Can i apply a tourist visa again or shall i try another visa? Hoping to get a response from you. thank you
Can you come up with a video indicating why all the technical nonsense with applications and high costs of getting partner visas Every Visa is slightly different it is so sickening it makes me want to leave Australia , One Visa should do the job and if I am getting married is it is nobody’s business , Sounds like to me when making these applications a whole lot of spam comes with it for the next 20 years
Thank you for the info. My bf carries a dual citizenship. Philippines and australian. We have been living together for more than 10 yrs in the phils. He was separated fr his wife 20 yrs prior. Got his divorce 5 yrs ago. What visa shld i apply?
Hi! How are you? I would like to ask a help from you Salvos. I am here in Australia with a tourist Visa that will expire this September 6. I met my Australian boyfriend on March this year and were planning to live together and ofcourse get married around August. Please advice what is the best thing to do, if I will apply for another tourist Visa and this time he will be the sponsor and later on apply for a spouse Visa or Apply Spouse Visa before my current Visa expires? Your reply is highly appreciated. Have a meaningful day and Thank you!
Sir is it the right time to apply for Spouse visa . I mean during corona time . I am from india and my wife is in australia for study further . I want to go to my wife . We were married this year in march and on 7th she flyed to australia and now i am about to apply for spouse visa . Should i apply for it or not (Spouse visa )
Hi Prince - Martin here. Unfortunately we do not assist with attaching partners to Student visas (we focus primarily on Australian spouse/partner visas only). We wish you all the very best of luck however!
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There is an administrative way to declare the relationship if you have evidence, time and still on the relationship but just because cultural differences the person don’t wanna sign any papers until you get married.
Hi Martin, thanks for an informative introduction to the de facto rule. FYI couples living in SA can also register their relationship now. Cheers
I need your help and advice please.
We met and lived together for 4 months (same home, in Japan). She then moved to Australia on working holiday visa.
I had to move back to my country in Europe, I lost my job.
I got a new job in Australia, but her visa is expiring, so I would need to bring her as a partner.
We lived together for 4 months, the 9 months long distance.
Do you think we can get the de facto?
Is defacto realtionship the male can already apply work immediately? Cos her girlfrein is an australian resident.
does this apply to student and student relatioship?
Hi Martin, thanks for the video:)
How can I register my relationship with my partner if I live aboard. Can we do it online?
Do I have to live with my bf to be able to apply for a partner visa?? We both live in Melbourne
does this apply to student and student in NSW?
Hi do we have to live together for 12 months if we already have a child to meet the requirements of a de facto visa
in WA de facto visa is allowed ?
I have some confusion regarding the documentation requirements for the partner visa application. In a previous video, it was mentioned that the officer would review the documentation from the date of the application and that sufficient evidence is necessary. If a couple enters into a civil union a year after submitting their application, could this pose an issue since they were not considered de facto partners prior to the application?
It is not mandatory to have a civil union certificate before lodgement to waive the 12 month rule, however, it is advisable that they do so, so that it can be assessed as part of 'Time of Application' facts. The best way to look at it is that these are all separate things:
- Waiving the 12 month rule
- Showing you are defacto when the application is submitted
- Showing you are still defacto when the application is ready to be granted
Hi Martin, my boyfriend stayed with my family and I for a year on a WHV visa, i couldn’t add him on the lease due to working rights (lease is under mine and my sisters name) but i added him on the internet bill and he paid it monthly and he would help around the house chores/ buy groceries. He and I also opened up a shared bank account. I’m wondering if this is enough to classify us as a de facto relationship or will we still need to register our relationship?
Simple rule of thumb...always register when you can (i.e. you live in a State/Territory that you can). It means you only need to prove you are defacto NOW, as opposed to 12 months ago. Big difference in risk and documents required :)
Hi Martin, thank you for this amazing series, it’s really helping me and my girlfriend at the moment. We currently live in Ireland (but not together) and have been together 2.5 years. My GF is an Australian resident and we are moving to Melbourne in February 2025. Because we have not lived together due to rental issues at home in Ireland, would it be a good idea to do the civil union as soon as we arrive, and then almost a year later when my WHV runs out to apply for the partner visa? Meaning we would have almost a year of living together + expenses and accounts?
Thanks for the help Martin!
Civil union, yes! Waiting 12 months to apply? That may not necessarily be required. Civil Unions waive the 12 month rule :)
Are you sure (SA) South Australia isn't on the list for registering a relationship? Most places I have looked it is only WA and NT that isn't on the list. Please confirm this if you could. Much appreciated.
Hi, i know this is not relevant to the 12month rule directly but we will apply for 820/801 as well. So, on the gov website it says if the applicant is not on a substantive visa, has to meet additional criteria. In my case, my gf got her bridging b visa and visa refusal for the student visa application on the same day. We appealed it and she is still on the bridging b visa. I know we can still apply for the partner visa during the appeal process but wondering what would those extra requirements be.
Search 'Schedule 3 criteria Salvo Migration' and watch the video where Martin explains that exact topic in more detail
I have valid tourist visa how can we apply for de factor relationship if my partner is still not divorced and I am living offshore how can we eligible the 12 month rule being together since only max 3 months to stay in australia?
Ideally, that would be 12 months of living together in some way or another (which could mean accumulating time spent under the same roof by traveling to see each other). We would also suggest opening up joint bank accounts as soon as possible. The length of the relationship as a whole (i.e. how long you have dated for) would also be a strong factor (i.e. couples that have dated/been in a long distance relationship for multiple years would be in a better position 12 months of that could have been defacto). More information on our PVS Training available here ua-cam.com/play/PLYYVSd6BFsiddD1ftIzEA5vFD9_IRiLd1.html
Nice video bro
Hi Martin very well explained. If the partner has sponsored more than 2 times before is there still a possibility of reconsideration of the partner visa if the relationship is more than 7 years .
do you need to stay together to be defacto? due to work my partner and i live in differnet cities, however i spent 1 year living at his place, otherwise of our 5 year relationship we spent all christmasses together, most weekends and semester holidays which are aprrox. 4 months/ year
Hi folks,
Does any of people in here applied for 820 visa for de facto while de facto relationship does not meet the minimum 12 months requirement for the visa and get granted for any circumtances ?
Me and my partner has started dating but live separately on February 2021 but since she got pregnant then we decided to move together on April 2021 (our de facto began).
Now, we have our little precious one but our de facto relationship doesn’t meet 12 month minimum requirement.
My current visa is Work and Holiday Visa (462) and will expire soon on February 2022. However, even if i wait untill my current visa expired and apply for 820 it still not meet the minimum requirement.
Can someone help or give me an advice or any of you has similar circumtance like me ?
Any help are much appreciated !
Thank you and cheers
Hi Martin, thank you for making this video. It's a great resource of information! Just regarding the point on applying for registering my relationship after lodging my onshore visa application 820, does it apply to marriage?
I am currently on an expiring tourist visa and would like to apply for the visa soon. My partner and I have been together for 7+ years although we have not lived together for 12 months and we are not able to register our relationship as we are in WA. I have only arrived in WA in March due to Covid travel restrictions and our 'financial' and 'cohabitation' evidence are very new. We do plan to get married in the next couple of months. Would that have a negative impact on our visa application when we getting married after visa lodging rather than before?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Is it true you can't apply for a partner visa while in Australia on a visitor visa with condition 8503?
Great Content! Thank you! May I ask you a quick question? I have heard that it is possible to apply for 309 and 100 at the same time if the relationships are more than 3 years long. Is that true? thanks in advance! Looking forward to your next videos!
Would You Like To Learn The Secrets About Australian Partner Visas, Options, Legal Requirements and How To Get Your Application Approved, WITHOUT Needing an Agent or Lawyer? Then Join Martin In The 100% FREE & Online, Partner Visa Workshop here 👉 online.salvomigration.com.au/pvs-workshop
I’m married but I have a partner is an Australian, can I apply for Partner Visa
You are legened!
Cheers brother
Now due to covid n arrange marriage
To be my partner was an australian pr
We have just started relation
So we want to marry as he cant come so is their any change in this regard
Hi Martin, you mention the Civil Union can be applied for AFTER your TOA, but in your module 2 video in the FB group, you mention the Defacto relationship needs to be in place at the TOA. Does this mean in theory it would be best to register the Civil Union prior to TOA, which waives the 12 month defacto criteria? Would it hold more strength to have the Civil Union in place at TOA?
Hey Micky - let’s simplify this:
Registering a Civil Union in order to waive the 12 month rule? You can register anytime up until a decision is made by the DHA (ie after lodgement is still accepted)
Registering a Civil Union in order to waive the 12 month rule AND strengthen your facts at TOA? Then you should register before the visa is applied for.
Hope that clarifies!
@@SalvoMigrationBrisbane Thank you very much Martin, much appreciated and legend for all you do!
It is not clear, where is the point of the couple had sex ? Is it at the point of exclusive? Or is it at the point of de facto ? We have to prove the couple can have sex everyday there after ?
thank you so much!
Good day to you, i would just like to ask more info about the visa as i was applying for a tourist visa in australia and it is sponsored by my partner but sad to say it was denied. The reason is that they dont see any reason for me coming back in my country which is philippines. Can i apply a tourist visa again or shall i try another visa? Hoping to get a response from you. thank you
Tourist visa you can apply again but they will deny again so better give reason for coming back to your home country
Can you come up with a video indicating why all the technical nonsense with applications and high costs of getting partner visas Every Visa is slightly different it is so sickening it makes me want to leave Australia , One Visa should do the job and if I am getting married is it is nobody’s business , Sounds like to me when making these applications a whole lot of spam comes with it for the next 20 years
You're not giving jack examples when u are talking about your points bro
Thank you for the info.
My bf carries a dual citizenship. Philippines and australian.
We have been living together for more than 10 yrs in the phils. He was separated fr his wife 20 yrs prior. Got his divorce 5 yrs ago.
What visa shld i apply?
Hi! How are you?
I would like to ask a help from you Salvos. I am here in Australia with a tourist Visa that will expire this September 6. I met my Australian boyfriend on March this year and were planning to live together and ofcourse get married around August. Please advice what is the best thing to do, if I will apply for another tourist Visa and this time he will be the sponsor and later on apply for a spouse Visa or Apply Spouse Visa before my current Visa expires?
Your reply is highly appreciated.
Have a meaningful day and Thank you!
Sir is it the right time to apply for Spouse visa . I mean during corona time . I am from india and my wife is in australia for study further . I want to go to my wife . We were married this year in march and on 7th she flyed to australia and now i am about to apply for spouse visa . Should i apply for it or not (Spouse visa )
Hi Prince - Martin here. Unfortunately we do not assist with attaching partners to Student visas (we focus primarily on Australian spouse/partner visas only). We wish you all the very best of luck however!
how am I suppose to live with my husband if they won’t process our visa. 😂🤦🏻♀️
Thank you.
Hello salvo migration can i please have your email, i have some questions i need to ask you.
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Civil relationship l, anyone from EU
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