This Tent Could Change Backpacking FOREVER!
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I'd take the silpoly version for $299 at 43 oz over the ultra version for $467 and 39.7 oz. That $168 saved could be used towards another piece of gear which would knock off more than 4 oz in weight.
Yep, I agree. But I got credit Henry Shires for finding a "solid" fabric for the inner tent that is actually LIGHTER than netting.
After watching this video, I am still very happy with my recent 2024 X-Mid 2 Pro purchase 😅😅
I have a Stratospire 1 from 2016/17, still going strong and absolute bomb proof ... I just can't justify a new tent, when the old one is so good and just won't break
Love the videos. I'm not reading everything posted before me so my apologies if this has been said. The ebike you were on is throttle assist which I believe means it's class 3. One thing to understand, at least in the US, the vast majority of true mountain bike trails do not allow class 3 ebikes. They have to be true pedal assist and not throttle driven. That's a very important thing to understand about writing in the US. Class 3 bikes have been determined to potentially cause more damage, and evidence of that is in your very own video where you've got the back wheel spinning in the dirt. On a pedal assist bike you can't do that. I'm all about EMTBs, but I feel it's important that you understand the distinction and know that, again, bikes that can be propelled with just a throttle but typically not allowed in most places considered mountain bike trails in the US. Hope this helps.
To add to that, outside the US a lot of places treat throttle e-bikes like minibikes or scooters (vehicles requiring a licensed driver and/or registration and a license plate) but pedal-assist e-bikes as no different from non-e bicycles.
Yep. I ride dirt bikes, (pedal) ebikes, and regular bikes, I know I can't take anything except an acoustic bike to national parks and a lot of state parks. Most BLM land is fair game to things with an engine/motor as long as you observe trail limitations, and pretty much all of the "open spaces" (Colorado) will allow ebikes of all classes, but....always check first, abide the rules, be a good ambassador of these categories to all those you meet on the trail.
I have the Tarptent Rainbow Li, which is made of Dyneema. Love it for the ease of pitching at the end of the day when I'm beat and my knees are aching. Recently bought a tarp from Etowah made of TNT. Was really impressed with the material and it's close to Dyneema weight somewhat.
I have one of Paul's newest tarps. It's really good Good choice.
So happy that you FINALLY did a Tarptent. Best tent company EVER.
Before you suggest that people buy this bike you should warn them that because it has a class 3 motor, there are some trails where they are not allowed.
Always liked their geometries…good looking tents.
Great video! I am glad that they have a cheaper version that is still pretty light. I have an older Stratospire Li that I use for winter dry camping, and I love it. The magnetic tiebacks are finicky, but that is the only real downside. It is a little harder to get a good pitch starting out, but even a so so pitch was good enough. I do tend to take my time with it, and I certainly wouldn’t want to pitch it in the pouring rain. It is pretty roomy. I use it as a solo tent for car camping and kayaking, and it will hold my comfy winter sleep system as well as my pack and a camp toilet.
My worst experience was with a single-wall tent - it's always wet, and the wind is always blowing through and it's always cold too and uncomfortable inside. Never again a single-wall tent!!
Everyone always talks about how important it is to be able to sleep well, but that's just not possible in a single-wall tent.
After a lot of research, I got a Stratospire Li…yes, it costs a lot (but how many nights in a pretty average hotel can you get for the same money?), but I’ve been very impressed with mine, no complaints. Note, the Li version has a narrower foot print than the heavier fabric versions of the same. The Li can fit a wide (25”) & a regular (20”) pad next to each other. Sure, it would have been nice to be able to fit two wide pads, but the wide & reg was sufficient for my wife and I….plus, we had a dog who slept in one of the vestibules, and our packs in the other. I like in UK, so wanted a twin wall to help combat condensation, but most DCF tents are single wall. I like how modular the Stratospire is. You can have solid inner, mesh inner or no inner. You can buy separate vestibule inners (for dog or young child). You can alter the way you pitch it too - 1 vestibule or 2, or no vestibules. It’s a very well thought out tent design I think.
I’ve got the Strato Li and never experienced any of the mentioned issues. Even the magnet is great.
I has an Aeon Li and just wasn’t very happy with the Pitchloc system. It introduces two extra degrees of freedom for each corner, making it quite finicky to pitch.
Xmid 2 pro is easier, but still not perfect. The footprint is quite massive for 2 person.
My favorite UL tent is the Double Rainbow Li by tarptent. Super easy to pitch, true double wide pad compatible, light weight and can be made free standing.
Had the Stratospire 2 since 2017. Great tent and wonderful design. Mine's in sylpoly and heavier than either the Li or this latest variant, but at $239 (compared to the $369 I paid back in 2017) its possible the best value tent of the three.
Love mine and probably wont need another for many years, had it in some seriously heavy rain storms and zero leaks...
I am a former gear head. I have all but aged out at 77.
When I was active I could not wait to buy the next best tent, stove, clothing. I will say I was fortunate to have enough extra funds to buy what was considered to be the best quality and performance.
I still have most of what I bought over 30 years. I can’t say I ever had a failure of any gear except when I fell on my external frame pack in Mahoosic notch Maine. I broke the frame but it still worked .
I’ve said all that to say this. Buy the best you can afford. In most cases buying a new tent will not make your trip that much better unless you had to buy a less than durable tent.
A few ounces won’t change the quality of your adventures.
The least expensive thing you can do to reduce ounces from
your overall weight is to make sure you are physically fit and at your ideal weight.
One of my friends who passed had a saying, “Don’t try to shave the grams, lay off the Krispy Kreme’s.” Thank you for the fond reminder. 😊
@@AnnaK1701D 🍩
I really want a Stratospire Li. If Durston would make a DCF rainfly for the double wall xmid 2p, it would be perfect.
I used my Nemo elite 1P tent out in the back country and was hit with light to moderate rain. It did absorb some moisture from the Nemo footprint. I'm looking to get a treking pole tent thats better in water resistance and wind. Would this be a better option over the Durston mid X?
I would like to see a comparison of how much smaller the TNT material could pack down compared to Dynema. I recently purchased a sil poly tent instead of dynema because it packs smaller. I felt the size the of the tent in my fastpack was more important than the weight saves dynema version of the tent, and of course the cost savings. Thanks for your thoughtful reviews!
with the xmid 2+ you can compare the packed size of the dyneema versus silnylon and it isn't a huge difference. Seems a bit of an overblown worry with dyneema.
The TNT is bulkier than the silpoly at least when new. It's similar to thicker DCF.
Years ago on a camping trip. ( Jan 2012 ) after I purchased a Tarp Tent Moment after that first night I spent in it. I dried it at the campsite then took it home , packed it away It stayed there till this year when I gave a lot of my surplus camping gear to a local club. My complaint was that my head keep hitting the one end and it felt like it was closing in on me. it's a nice tent but not for me. I grabbed my Jungle Hammock and went back to the campsite for the rest of the week. Since then I have used other tents when a trip called for a tent ( Only ) .
So this is nearly a $500 tent that has the weight of silpoly/silnylon that lets water in when it rains? I'll pass. An x-mid 2p silpoly is $280.
My main annoyance with TT is that they lack basic features of longevity, all to shave off a few grams.
@@kniter i can’t stand the strut system. Makes their tents very finnicky to pitch
I mean he said it was probably just his tent which seems to be corroborated by other reviews
@@neilquinn lol.. its as easy as any tent and the struts are a plus. Sounds like you just dont know what your doin...😉
@@benarchie6024ive taken my stratospire out 3 times. it broke twice
I’ve done some homework on Ultra fabric I am pretty skeptical that it is better than traditional woven fabrics.
Nice!
Yeah, my Tarptent Notch Li is "spendy"! But I love that little tent. Its design will protect me even in wind-driven snow as long as I guy it out well. I added two stakes to each side of the fly reinforcing the stake loop area with both Dyneema tape and Tenacious Tape "circle sandwiches around teh fly edge.
BTW, try an E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown e-mtb. 2 wheel drive, 2 batteries, dual suspension, 400 pound load limit (including driver weight but not bike weight. From Pahrump, Nevada, near 'Vegas. Great quality components.Great customer service. I use mine for hunting and camping.
Excited for you to check out the Xmid 2 Pro+
E-bikes are a great way to take all the fun out of a nice hike
I have the StratoSpire Li (the dynema version of this tent) - really like it, but the most annoying thing (in my opinion) is the length of the carbon river stays for the vents. At 40cm (about 16”) they really limit your options for packing this tent compared to its close competitors like the X-Mid. If it had been possible to split them into two 20cm sections that would be great (they’re terrific when the tent is up for the interior space and the hex aesthetic).
I’m almost tempted to try modding it myself (but reluctant to mess with such expensive gear in case it doesn’t work).
That ebike sounds cool! I hope that's a motorcycle helmet you're wearing though since bike helmets are only rated to 20 mph collisions.
Sounds good but I don’t even want to chance getting a leaking tent. Reliable shelter is a must.
Another great episode Steve. Keep up the good work.
I have the older version of the strato spire since more than 10 years ago. And I had to giggle when you mentioned all the great details. It is exactly why I picked that tent... Regarding the water issue, when I bought mine, I got it without sealed edges and had to seal it myself... Is that maybe still the case?
my silny taro tent stratospire2 breaks almost everytime I use it. the bands that connect the inner to the outer always snaps. have you had this problem?
Hi. The budget backpacking loadout list is empty. My Email had no List. :(
This Ultra TNT material seems very interesting …. until you said that it’s so easy to puncture, it shouldn’t be placed directly on the ground while rolling the tent. If that’s true, that seems like a big problem. An acorn falling from high enough could make a hole in the fly if it’s that easy to puncture.
I LOVE my Stratospire LI. It only took me about 3 nights out to get the pitch nailed. 2-person, double-wall (I have both inners) and less than 2 pounds! You must have gotten a bad magnet, because mine always hold.
No, he's exactly right. Everyone I know who has a stratifier LI including myself has had problems with the magnets. It's easily fixable by buying stronger magnets and using them in between the two and the tent, but as it ships the magnets are borderline terrible. If you've not experienced that consider yourself lucky.
@@atlmtnbiker I don’t personally know anyone else with this tent, but if that was my only complaint, I’d simply glue a stronger magnet onto the flap. You can buy rare earth magnets in all manner of sizes and strength, and a drop of super-glue or a flap of dyneema tape would be an easy fix.
stabability? 4:45😁
Dear Mylifeoutdoors, I really like your videos. But this was just cheap clickbait. NOTHING will be changed because of this tent. It is another nice to habe alternative. Nothing more, nothing less. Period
I used to have a Contrail. It was an awesome piece of gear. Sadly my old bones just can't hack backpacking any longer. I sold all of my gear about 10 years ago when I was 50ish.
You should still keep up physical activity
MLO upload!!!
Always entertaining and informative.
By any chance have you tried the FlipFuel, the new fuel transfer device?
I have. Awesome
Owned six different Tarp Tents, all DCF, still have 4, none have leaked. Henry will figure it out for you.
borah bivy nuff said 😜
Funny that you upload this video now, already dead, set on a Nemo hornet. I got to get it on sale at REI. Hopefully at 20% off a full price item come soon. That said, I recently just learned about these tents, that are much lighter and more durable but also double the price of the Nemo. One day I’ll end up getting one of these. I’ve been doing a lot of research and reading and learning about tents & backpacking.
Nov 10-20 is the next big sale, and yes you'll get a 20% off coupon.
You really need to look into Durston tents....no, really...please do.
Hi, I clicked to download the budget packing list and got the email, but the email was formatted such that the download link wasn't visible or clickable. That was in gmail. I downloaded the email as a file to my PC and the link was visible when it opened in Outlook but it had formatting characters instead of a link name. Maybe it was just me, but anyways, thank you for the packing list ideas. I enjoy your style of presentation and the info you provide.
I think there was a problem with some of the early emails. You should have received another one that was hopefully working better? If not please let me know.
Tarptents always feels that there has been overengineering going on. Thats why I always suggest zpacks, they are built like a bunker.
A bunker sewn by a blind Michael J Fox.
@@Ryan-yi5roused to be true. Now zpacks has some really talented people sewing their stuff. The difference between old zpacks and current zpacks is really big. Still doesn’t have the same gear finish TT or Durston has but it’s close.
@@Ryan-yi5ro Hahahahaha.
@@mrtru1te No where near as close. Known countless thruhikers that all regretted their garbage gear from Zpaks. From backpacks that fall apart, quilts that they freeze in and tents with terrible sewing, leaks and faulty zippers. Best to avoid them.
I dont share that experince from my pct 2023 where I talked with countless thruhikers. I can also say that a new actor in the expensive tent field has really bad quality with zippers breaking and material ripping, but I dont want to company bash or spread rumours from my narrow experince, nor should you @@Ryan-yi5ro
This video really is different from your other videos. It felt unfinished once the ad started and you didn't really make a point.
Let me know when the price drops below $200. Then it will change camping forever.
"This tent could change backpacking forever"? I feel like that argument was not made whatsoever in the video. Also, very confusing to swap from the tent to a long tangent on Dyneema and then to the ebike. This felt like a couple different short videos were spliced together on the editing floor.
Nomads have lived in tents for thousands of years and twinkled them to make life simple After all that time it is still hard to beat a square footprint with a center pole. tall enough to stand up in.Give me a miner tent any day of the week over all the crazy. When you are it make it out of the lightest, strongest material. on the market.
If it's big enough to move around the center pole, I don't disagree with a pyramid tent. I've never tried that for backpacking, but my canvas tent for pre-1840 Rendezvous is a 16'x12' modified pyramid tent. Stakes and a single 12' center pole and it's awesome. But that's 6' on each side of the pole. Backpacking, to be roomy enough to not potentially knock the upright, it has to be a decent size and that weight is going to add up. If you have a specific tent like that light enough for backpack, what is it? I'd definitely take a look since I'm in the market for a new one.
Man... what can I say. I love the technology explosion within the Outdoor Gear Industry. I love gear. Gear Companies love to sell gear. Over the years I have seen more gimmick than good. Geometric design can change, features can be added and taken away, and fabrics can change but all I want in a tent is a simple pitch, decent room and weather hardiness. What I would like to see is a tent fabric or design that incorporates some sort of insulated fabric. I'm sure it's there, just not lightweight enough... yet. Thanks for the info, video and work. 👴 Simple is always better. edit...Etowah Outfitters uses that material. Great looking stuff.
Great tent but filled with water?
i don't know. watching these videos is a lot like watching a commercial.
Good job love your videos. Not sure why youre so excited about this tent? It seemed to awkward to setup, required a lot of space, especially considering the desognated campsites we all have to deal with, the doors have an issue and the one you had leaked although as you say may have been one off. (Never found just one ant in my house...) Is a 2 lb tent such a terrible choice? I have a fly creek big agnes that doesn't seem to have these draw backs... I'm going to see if you reviewed that tent and see if I potentially have some of these same issues.
How is all the stress and analysis worth the few grams? Like grab a pole tent less than 2kg weight and have the most headroom and comfort ever, and focus on the hike
Doing in-depth optimization can be a lot of fun for some people. I'll agree with you that stressing over a couple grams is pointless, but I've definitely benefited from caring a bit more about what I carry. I used to have a tent around 2kg, and now carry a tent that's less than 1kg. The difference in comfort while hiking for me is night and day, especially when I'm carrying a lot of food.
Bikepacking adventure?🙂
Not a fan of the color I'd prefer a camouflage color
the tent is nice but id never spend 500+ on a tent everyone is getting out priced in the hobby pretty sad.
I have to say Stephen, I'm really not liking where this channel is going, which is a bummer because it (was?) my favorite. I won't even elaborate why, because I think you know already.
Anyone that hangs out with Dan Becker I’m really getting turned off their channels. It seems they are completing to see who can get the most content out the quickest and whoever is sponsoring at the highest payment just to get a product on the tube. I really liked this channel at one time myself, but this one, backpacking exposure, and a few others are seriously going down hill quicker than I expected they would. Eric Hanson turned me off when he and Dan failed to see part of why Eric was fined after Dan was rescued. I also unsubscribed from all four of these after today. When Stephen brings back good content I might come back, but several of them I never will
@@jamicrawford6729Dan Becker is a total con.
@@markcummings6856 total indeed.
Maybe an ebike backpacking trip would be better advertisement for the bike. I'm not sure how we got from a tent that will change backpacking forever to an ebike? 🤷
Dan called and wants his design back.
Lol, google Stratospire review by Dan Durston from 2015)
Again, a video where the main point is delayed to halfway the video. Really annoying. The title doesn’t reflect the general contents of the video…
Thats it....... over the top click bate over and over Unsubscribed today.
🤣🤣🤣
I enjoy most of your content. But the "this tent will alter the course of human history" title is a little over the top. It's a tent that leaked on you. One-off or not, it speaks to quality control. Or lack of it.
Also, just tired of UA-camrs claiming everything is revolutionary. Like Guy Fieri that never ate average food. If everything is amazing, then nothing is amazing.
Interesting video, until the E-BIKE. They are an abomination! They allow people too un-fit and too unskilled to access trails they wouldn't ordinarily be on, going WAY too fast, endangering people hiking or biking on said trails. I hate them.
My next comment is going to revolutionize comments forever… hey look at my e-bike.
Change backpacking forever?
It's cool, but not that cool
You misunderstand. I’m not saying the tent is game changing. I’m saying if this material catches on backpacking could change forever
You threw out the sentence…. You change out the inner tent to make it a 4 season…. 4 season tents while they do have less mesh, they always have more poles. So changing out the inner tent doesn’t make this a 4 season tent.
On a freestanding tent yes they have more poles. On a trekking pole tent you arnt going to add strength buy adding more poles. Plus trekking poles are already 10x stronger than freestanding poles. That combined with the strength of the material would make this tent very capable in a snowstorm. Add in the solid inner and it’s a great 4 season option.
Nah thanks, it looks very confusing and not so great. I wayyy prefer my X-Mid Solid, does not leak and it was super strong in high winds here in Scotland which says alot!
Its no joke here comparing to walk in the park like in USA.
Dude, where have you been in the USA to claim such a comparison?
@@markcummings6856 Dude imagine walking a week in 30-60mph wind and crazy rain, thats what we had just now. You ultralight umbrellas, jackets or whatever would not last here long. Not to mention those funny tents or the one in the video.
Just Clickbait. This guy’s been pretty guilty of that recently.
Yeah nah....not one part (save price) even scratches the surface of the Duplex. Dbl wall. Stiff barely there venty contraptions. Off set. Saggy yuck. Simplisity and the least beakable and dependable simplest tent is the best tent.
Signed the guy searching for the og mousetraps...im feeding mice because some nut tried to make a better mousetrap.
meh
Love Tarp Tent and Henry’s innovation, but this is entirely too fussy and not worth the effort.
Terrible background noise. Unwatchable, sorry….
my tarptent stratospire2 falls apart everytime I use it. literally. don't buy tarptent
Oh God, another one of these guys riding e-bikes like motorcycles...🙄
This tent also acts like a sausage casing in case of a bear attack
Wait, I missed something. How does this tent change backpacking? Oh, that’s right e-bike is the answer.
This tent just suck