When I started with Linux I was told to take the time and install arch Linux from scratch. I took a whole Sunday for me not knowing anything. But you learn so much doing this that I still advice colleagues of mine to do it this way, if they want to learn more about Linux.
It took me a whole week of after work hours. It crashed after the first update, same with Manjaro. Only MABX and ArchCraft have been smooth experiences for me.
>I still advice colleagues of mine to do it this way, if they want to learn more about Linux. Me too. In fact, I advise them to do it even when they _don't_ want to learn more about Linux. Heck, pretty much all my communication with them is sending them the installation wiki URL. ( o.o)
I first read your comment as "When I started with Linux I was told to take the time and install Linux from Scratch." and was surprised that someone would tell a new Linux user to use that distro, as you waste your life for two weeks trying to install something that does not have a package manager, and you have to compile everything from scratch. Luckily that was not your comment lol I have tried to install LFS and I did not succeed after trying multiple times
I don't think installing arch the old way was such a big deal (it's mostly just reading along and following isntructions, if you can build an ikea table then you can install arch). But it was very time consuming, so this is a great change. Overall I think the main problem people run into with arch is after the install. Since it's so open to new things and lets you do whatever you want, if you don't know what you're doing and you just update all the time and install random aur packages you might end up "breaking it". I prefer to run fedora or debian based stuff because they tend to have a safety net for my own stupidity, haha.
Yeah, of course once you know more its easier to plan ahead. On that regard I'm very happy that my first distro was mint because timeshift / btrfs snapshots are introduced to you on the welcome screen. But if you come straight from Windows breakage is just a couple clicks away...
I think nowadays immutability is the core of user friendliness (ChromeOS and SteamOS do it, though that alone isn't a good argument). A more stable update stream sadly doesn't protect the machine from user error. astOS is a minimal, atomically updating Arch based distro. BlendOS comes with great container management and is going declarative (like the OG NixOS but probably more beginner friendly). There's Fedora Silverblue, OpenSuse microOS (rolling) and they're adding an immutable version of their point release soon too.
I recently moved from Win11 to Arch after a very long break from linux (last time I used it, I was running gentoo in like 2008 as desktop, then centos in 2011 for a home server). I used archinstall because I just wanted something up and running fast and already know the linux guts so I wouldn't have been learning much doing it manually. Archinstall is great.
I've tried this method half a year ago and I can confim, that it's way quicker and more user friendly than old, manual approach. With old way I was always forgetting something and was need to chroot again with the usb stick.
The mirror selection menu allows you to only select American mirrors instead of foreign ones which IMO is highly recommended if you want faster downloads. Also, the bootloader selection only defaults to GRUB on systems that don’t have UEFI; it defaults to systemd-boot on systems that do.
I think for beginners it will still be daunting because they don't really know what each step is doing or what the choices are or why one would choose something.
Problem with new users is fear of the terminal. In all honesty I think they'll find this less 'scary' than regular terminal commands are making it more accessible
Archinstall is a good option if you installed the manual way 100times or just have to quickly install some machines. The problem with Arch now easier and widely available is, that beginners should be aware how you update Arch in a safe way and debug if the system breaks. There were installer even with GUI before archinstall that is not the problem. If the user is not afraid of keeping his system running Arch in my opinion is the best Linux for everyone.
DT Great video! Two thumbs up! The Archlinux script install has been out for a while and makes installing easy. I made exactly the same mistakes you did (if you didn't do it on purpose to make a point) with the partitioning and formatting the disk or disks. But I still like using my method of installing via ssh since I have several computers. Boot a Archlinux install thumb drive on the target machine to be installed, start sshd, then create passwd and copy the IP address. Then login from a second host machine into the target machine, use your text notes to copy and paste into a terminal once login for your custom install. One or more installs can be done this way. :)
I’m still new to Linux and tried introducing myself to it by installing Linux mint, but trying to configure my hardware was a nightmare. After I heard about arch’s rolling release, I switched over to see how bad it could be, ran arch-install and everything’s been running fine since. I’ve learned more about Linux and have actually been running it through arch, it just works
I had to install on my media center yesterday. I've already installed using the guide on different machines but yesterday I really didn't fell like going through it again. The install script worked perfect and it made my day.
I can understand that there might be practical reasons why going through the "full" Arch installation process might be better, but Linux becoming easier to use is a good thing. This comes across like Arch people being mad that the process is being democratized for people who don't want to bother with the entire installation process.
>Linux becoming easier to use is a good thing Heck no, it's not. Once you start bringing in the riff raff, they stink up the place with their noobness, and pretty soon you need to move to an even more exclusive/elite distro.
I mean what does an install script have anything to do with other Arch users? We all have free will, choose what you want, don't question why someone would choose a different start.
DIY distros require some level of knowledge that not everyone just selecting options in a TUI/GUI installer might have. Moreover, you get to know your installation better if you do it manually, which WILL come in handy when you have to do some troubleshooting. Archinstall is good if you are a seasoned user and know your preferences, not so much if it's your first time installing a DIY distro. If that's the case, you should face the complexity right off the bat because it pays off later on. Newbies and Arch wannabes don't have this knowledge and it only creates problems for the rest of the userbase because they don't even know the most basic steps to troubleshoot their systems, which means they often give the most bare and useless bug reports ever seen and waste countless hours of developer and community time. Arch is not a beginner distro and shouldn't be treated as such.
@@nishiko28Well....in fairness to them, I don't think it has to be a choice between DIY distros like Arch/Gentoo and attracting new users. We can do both and still gain people who are sick of Windows and Mac OS. But I agree with you that part of the problem with Linux getting taken up by "noobs" is people (not fsmoura necessarily) who think that Linux has to be a secret club that only people who compile their system from the ground up can enjoy.
Wow, that was an incredibly easy way to install Linux. I wish all the distributions had this way of installing. The only thing that screwed me up was forgetting about the iso file still selected as the boot device in virtualbox. After shutting down and removing it, all was well. There is a lot of stuff that needs to be installed though. Simple stuff like zip and unzip are missing and a lot of scripts depend on these utilities being there. I had to do a lot of research into configuring Alacritty and installing fonts. The newer version has a TOML config file and I just went straight to the documentation on it and learned how to configure everything but the default configuration for fonts was not to my liking so that was a must. I never had to mess with fonts in other distributions as the defaults were all great to work with. Now just to fill you in on the downside, I tried to do another install at work from memory because I thought it was so easy and neglected to select multilib and my Alacritty terminal had no visible characters in it, so the terminal was unusable! Had to Ctrl-Alt-F3 to do anything that required terminal. I didn't know how to enable the multilib from the command line, so I just did another re-install selecting mulitlib this time and then I couldn't log in! This turned out to be due to me selecting the "graphics acceleration" setting in the Virtualbox settings before booting up. My Intel video card did not like that setting and locked up the login screen when attempting to enter a password. After turning off that setting, everything started to work just like the installation that went well on my home setup.
I'm glad Opensuse Tumbleweed Slow-roll was made for a laptops users and desktops that have limited bandwidth per month. I hope Arch Linux would do the same in the future. I have no cap for internet but once you start traveling other countries, you might not get good internet and so rolling release might not be a good option for some. My only wish is a slow rolling release of Arch would be great.
I love Arch Linux and the install script is not too hard to use. But you missed a few important points: 1. The install script doesn't automatically connect to WiFi. So you need to run iwctl and connect your WiFi before you start. This s not at all obvious and the script probably ought to run it for you. 2. You need to partition your disk. Most newbies won't know how to do this properly, although I do think that there are defaults. 3. If you're trying to create a dual-boot system with an existing Windows partition, than archinstall won't recognize it and configure grub properly. A more sophisticated installer like Endeavor has will do this for you. None of these are killers and Arch is still my distro of choice for various reasons. But I don't recommend it to new users who aren't prepared to get their hands dirty. Even with the install script there's a lot that you need to know.
I drink the salty tears of the fanboys who complain it's not easy enough - they just want a distro that proves they know something, and now Arch no longer gives them that XDDD. This is absolutely a win for linux and people should be happy for it.
My best description on terminal experience is you feel like you're in The Matrix doing it I am getting more comfortable as I elevate my consciousness into achieving a higher goal.
I use arch linux as main distro, installed with archinstall. Works flawlessly. I used the archinstall script many times, to test various desktop environments or wm in archlinux and it's so easy
It's good that using Linux has become easier. It still has it's difficult moments. Now it's usable by users with a medium level of skill. People always talk about installing it, when talking about Arch, which is pretty stupid IMHO. The more interesting part of using Linux is what we do and create with it. I completed my MBA in Russia on Linux. I recorded an Indy Rock album with friends on Linux. Man team penguin needs to make some strides with music production software. Using VSTs in Linux is a nightmare and doing the one man band thing with some guitars, a bass and a drum machine program is kinda difficult. I'm impressed with the strides in gaming thanks to Valve and Proton.
I really like the arch install command because it lets me just install a super minimal install with all the basics already set up and then I just build my system from that. For me it only saves time from what I would have done anyways, and then I just add only what I want and not what is preinstalled with the more bloated profiles.
I should have watched your video yesterday before installing Arch OMG ... I did it with the installation guide and such, took me about an hour or two doing so, with the bad being unable to get my network working properly (it's odd that network works fine in terminal, but it doesn't replicate onto the install)
Have done the normal installation in the past but used the install script for my more recent build. it is a handy time saver. nice to have the choice for the time poor.
I love this both for its convenience, and as a concept. I can show people who are interested in Linux how to install Arch this way, then they can get to learning Linux by using linux, and install it manually later if they so choose. It's convenient because I can have an Arch system with a full featured desktop environment like KDE up and running in less than 3 mintues, and I can do it on multiple computers back to back very quickly. Manual installation is good to know, but when you arleady know it, it's nice to have a way of doing it more efficiently when needed.
The most difficult part of installing Arch is partitioning the disk and setting up file systems etc., especially if you're going to do something like LVM with volume groups and logical volumes or btrfs with multiple subvolumes. It doesn't seem like this really helps with that? Once you've go the disk partitioned, this seems like it would be pretty sweet though, would save you from the tedium of typing the other 10 or so commands.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 That has nothing to do with installing Arch, but I’ve never had a single issue with it as long as I checked the News before updating. Sometimes there will be a breaking change where you need to create a new symbolic link or something before the update.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 I don’t know exactly what you’re asking. If you’re asking what your point is related to, it’s related to maintaining Arch as opposed to installing it, which the video was about.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 "Installation" of an operating system is getting the OS installed. With most Linux distributions or Windows, this is basically the installation wizard. When people say Arch is hard to install, that's what they mean. Getting the software you want installed and integrated is similar regardless of distro. I'd argue it's easier on Arch because of the repos having more software and the AUR.
How did you do it? Im trying to do it but the closest i can even get is getting to the white line blinking at me on a black screen also been trying for almost 3 hours at this point but cant get any further
I thought Arch used to have TUI "installation script" decades ago before they stopped supporting and eventually removed it, leaving a completely manual CLI installation method. This installation script obviously has similarities to how the way the old one worked, but it still seems quite different. I don't use Arch so I haven't given this a try yet, but it does look like a step in the right direction. I thought it was dumb to give up and just get rid of the installation script to begin with, instead of improving it and working out the bugs and problems it did have.
People say it's hard to install because there's no mention of the archinstall command after booting the iso, I didn't realize it existed before watching this video.
Same. Mine vms are based on arch. And manually formating and doing standard configs was annoying. Now i can use archinstall to quickly setup vm and just add browser and guest additions in 1 menu.
Option 2 if you like Arch is to consider Garuda as it's point and click easy to get going. It works well for Steam Emulation - running 98% of the games, including some other titles with some fiddling like World of Warships and until the latest changes, League of Legends. My only gripe is that the person in charge is busy and very very slow on updating programs in the repository and I can see it very easily becoming a dead version at any time as there is no large team of devs behind it. So it's good.. but... I'd not use it for school or work or anything that is productivity based. That said, moving back from Windows to Linux ( 21 operating systems so far in my life, Windows being only 6 of those ) was literally ripping off the band-aid on that old wound and getting the pain over with. Windows 10 bricked itself three times in a year. The data was fine but the thing was unable to finish loading due to drivers or something. Recovery did nothing. I was looking at being forced into upgrading to Windows 11 and that would require a whole new motherboard and CPU as mine didn't support their latest DRM and anti-copying technology ( simplifying it a lot) Basically $600 and a new copy for $150 as sorry, too much would be changed to keep my old license as valid... to stay current as Windows 10 was constantly dying on me. So one day in a fit of anger at the third crash and no hope of recovery, after trying to recover the machine for three days ( thank god I had my Macbook as a spare ), I went out, spent $25 on the cheapest name-brand SSD I could and dropped Linux on it. Simple, works, and run modern games on my old hardware just as fast. Yes,k a bit of a learning curve, but no worse than moving Windows versions or hopping onto any new phone or something like a Chromebook where the OS is not the same as before. It crashes maybe once a month versus every 2-3 days. Huge win and aside from League and some specific games like Genshin, it all works. My take-away is that Linux is not what it was even two years ago and with installers like this, it is really never easier to cut that umbilical cord to the evil empire and gain your freedom. And save your pocketbook at the same time.
This is the EZ way for a standard install but if you want to use an LVM and/or encrypt your drive, it quickly gets a lot more involved with quite a few more steps and the archinstall script won't give you those options
I know very well what the commands do. I started using FreeBSD, then SuSe, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian and some fumbling around with Antergos and Arch. It's not that I don't respect Arch. I love it. Running Endeavour OS as a daily driver. But I think a powerful installer is underestimated. I don't use Arch because I don't want to learn a specific order of commands just install an operating system. I'm a user that wants an operating system to install and work. Of course I want to understand what I'm doing. But often you need a UA-cam video or guide to do all kinds of stuff in a specific order, just installing an operating system. It's just not that interesting to me.
I love Arch, it's easy to use and the UI is like windows, runs windows apps easily via wine or proton runs 100% faster than windows, my only gripe is games with anticheat are still not running right.
The problem i always have, i put my Root partition and home partition on two separate drives. I can't ever figure out how to mount and configure those properly in the Arch setup. Setting the proper flags and mount options between both drives.
i wanted to install archlinux but the only thing im afraid of is not finding the required drivers and not finding the programs i'd need in uni 💀 i only got 25gb free on ssd out of 128 and would probably need to format it before installing archlinux as i want to shift completely and only use windows in vm when i'll need to use it once in a while 🚶♂i want to manually install the stuff but that being said i am afraid of messing up on my only laptop and then getting fckd up by projects
Which I do every time because I want to tweak a bunch of details, e.g. file system stuff. Though archinstall looks like it gets you something pretty reasonable, but I am a bit curious how hard the manual partitioning bit is to use to get things exactly like you want it wrt. filesystems, LVM, and encryption compared to doing a manual install.
Arch used to be the faster version of a souce linux install versus slow and tedious Gentoo or lfs install. But it still had the low level install cred from the source community. Especially if you compliled your own custom kernal. Now im not sure if Arch gets this cred if this becomes default. This install reminds me of an open suse install from 1996.
Installed arch via archinstall recently and it bugged on me by creating ~16Gb of empty space betveen sda1 and sda2 and around 5Gb of empty space after last partition. Fixing was annoying but other than that worked great
i installed arch by hand knowing this was an option just to learn the system. i was able to recover it fine from accidentally bricking it. learning the system is worth it, so at least go through a manual arch install in a VM just to learn before using archinstall. if i were to install arch now id use archinstall because i already did a manual install and know the basics anyways. (ps if youre curious how i bricked it twice, first time i tried to uninstall vlc media player on kde because it wasnt working.. and i was like "yep that uninstall size seems about right" and i accidentally uninstalled some part of my DE making it just not load, the second time i was in kde settings and trying to add a boot splash just broke the system. both times i was able to go in with a live arch usb and fix the issues.)
Installing Arch is like learning math. It's important to understand how to do it manually so it's not 'magic'. After you understand how the sausage is made it's fine to use automatic installations.
Back in the day when I used Arch linux, pretty much when it launched back in 2002-ish there was an installer and then they removed it. But I still don't like not intuitive "pacman -S" compared to "apt install" and Debian just works
Rewatching this and trying to use archinstall after not using it for a while. I noticed the user and root password is stored in plaintext. there is currently an issue about that on the github as well.
guys if installing kde gives you errors, run "pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring && pacman -S archinstall" before running "archinstall". This should be fixed in the next release.
Arch linux is hard to Install?? I'll say I never installed Direct arch But Hell Manjaro is easy as pie to install.. My Question is, Is that install Script now In the Arch ISO itself?? If so Might try it out..
how to use xinti file to start window manager in arch i am stuck in between diplay manager and xinit. Like i have installed arch linux with window manager "DWM" and i create two user and now i want to try other window manager like "xmonad , awesome ,etc " and some desktop enviornment so when i use a dispaly manager like "lightdm" it does show me xmonad but not showing DWM in user session and i tried to download other like "xfce4 " lightdm show me xmonad and lightdm in user-session but not showing me my dwm . I want to keep dwm as my default and want to use other user for using other desktop enviornment and window manager what should i do . And i also tried it with xinitrc file but in second user xmonad does not work and dwm does for that . Need help any one i am new to arch linux
I am not sure about the DWM package on Arch's repositories, but if you installed DWM by building it from source, there will be no .desktop file in your xsessions folder, therefore you will not be able to choose DWM from your display manager. In order to be able to do that, you will have to create a .desktop file for DWM in '/usr/share/xsessions'. You can make a script somewhere in your system called 'startdwm', then you'll put this inside of it: #!/bin/sh # before the next line, put the programs that you want to autoinit such as ' &' exec dwm After that, you'll type, in your terminal, this: chmod +x Then you're going to create a file called 'dwm.desktop' in '/usr/share/xsessions'. In this file, you'll put this: [Desktop Entry] Name=DWM Exec=sh Type=Application After this, you'll start your display manager and, theoretically, the DWM session should be listed in there.
the arch manual installation was needed because it gatekept idiots out of arch, now with the script people who don't know a damn about arch linux or how to maintain their system or ask for help on the forums or have common sense when it comes to doing anything on their system that isn't shown in the gui. arch is a DO IT YOURSELF distribution so when you're using the archinstall script and having everything done for you then you won't understand anything when you finish installing
@@ordinarryalien It does a few things right, but yes, for productivity, it's hell at times. Take my printer. It prints just fine, but the scanner function - maybe it works today, maybe it doesn't. Same with something as basic as USB drive support. Maybe it's happy, maybe it sits there. Half the time I try to launch Open Office (I still call it that - lol) it.. does nothing and hangs. But it does run Steam fine. lol. It's very stable until it requires a reboot as the shell has decided to go brain-dead. Thankfully it takes 20 seconds to reboot, but it's still annoying. That said, with ZFS, I have not lost any data or had the drivers eat themselves, which Windows LOVED to do if a game crashed for some reason. My next machine is probably going to be something different as the arch community is very small and when stuff breaks, almost all of the scripts and fixes assume you are running something other than Arch.
Would there be any real advantage in installing Linux from Scratch? Since I have a particular AMD system with X cores, might there be some optimizations I could apply to improve performance?
Linux from Scratch is just painfully to install. I don‘t think you want to give that a try. It is an interesting read, but in my personal opinion not worth the time. Gentoo is perhaps the more feasible approach and you could gain perhaps a little bit if you optimize the kernel and compile-options but in the end most what you safe is disk space. I have tinkered around with Gentoo several times and they just recently updated their binary repositories to have more packages, but in the end I came back to Arch as the package management and the timesaving by using pre-compiled packages just is way more beneficial for me then the gains I could perhaps get. If you don‘t aim for performance but instead you want to have control over the licenses the packages that you use applies, that is a much more interesting view on that approach. Remember that you could also under Arch swap kernels, search in the wiki I think for realtime and zen there should be packages available, but there are even unofficial kernels available as far as I remember. But if you want to give LfS a try don‘t be discouraged by me I just believe that Arch is the best option at the moment.
you would have to look up the docs online to make sure it supports however many cores you need to use, I would guess that it will work just fine straight out the box though
Just save the file locally or online and then the next time you want to install import it by appending --config and then the path or url to a website with the config.json.
IMHO the manual installation process of something like Gentoo or Arch is great if what you want is the ability to script a custom installation, or learn the most basic steps of the installation process but it gets tedious once you have done it a couple of times. Gentoo has always had better installation handbook than Arch, arch is just an incoherent wiki of articles that if you manage to figure out you can install the thing, probably the Arch team expects you to have read the LFS book before trying their manual install. Ironically people think Gentoo is more hardcore than Arch. Just kidding. what I think the arch team should do is offer the installation script from within the guide and in each of the entries give you bits of code to consider for them in the script so you can make your own script easily.
I don't see the point, I thought the reason why it was originally hard to install was to try and put off new users from trying it, now they want to make it easier? but if they want to make it easier then why not just use a graphical installer like everyone else does? this seems like a half way house approach.
I've tried the archinstall script multiple times in VMs and i haven't gotten it to work so far. I tried it over a span of almost a year or something with multiple months in between. The first two attempts after pressing install the script would just exit and kick me back to the tty. The third time was very recently, and it finally started installing this time, but failed when configuring grub because there wasn't enough space, eventhough i had a 1gb efi partition. Maybe i did something wrong the last time, but i'm still hesitant to trust the script at this point over a manual install. I don't use arch anymore at the moment though.
@@Jackarius86 yeah i don't know what's going on there. Like i said, maybe the last time i tried it it might have been an error on my part, but the other times it would just exit to tty without any error message. I tried it a few times in a row making sure i didn't accidentally skip an option or something, but it kept exiting.
@@Jackarius86 no it happened literally immediately after pressing install, just exited out to tty right away. At first i thought maybe there was some delay before it starts but nothing happened.
@@juipeltje its odd, but IDK what else to tell you other than try again, there may have been something you missed, maybe your network isn't set up, or you haven't configured it properly?
@@halfsourlizard9319nah the script just doesn't work really well i think, i've tried it 3 times, the first two times i just kicked me back to the tty without doing anything.
Arch linux isn't really aboput installing, I mean it is to some extent, but me for example, I can install it no problem, but I broke it like 3 times and went back to debian
I don't get it. If you don't know anything about Linux and IT you don't know what swap, mirror, grub and more is. So it makes no difference. I need to go to the wiki and read and learn everything from scratch anyway. And most likely I don't understand much of this even with the wiki. I really try this but it is not "easy". Maybe easier than before because you can select now what you need but it is still trusting to do and select what I don't understand. I tried Endeavour OS bevor and I bricked it after about 2 weeks because I updated every start and then I got an error from an update und I didn't understand anything what didn't worked. After a wile I found update anything at all so I wiped the system and went to Kubuntu. Not the best distro and not war I wanted but better then Windows.
esier than debian? and will boot after kernel update. first and last time i test arch multiple times it allways not boot after kernel update. kernel was 0byte so it could not boot. thats linux/arch no backup kernel on boot menu. thank god windows 10 works and keep working. who need 11 and ads
I ran the archinstall script recently. Don't recommend it. It didn't create a swap pariton and had systems boot. I remember selecting the grub bootloader but I can't be sure. Either way I ended up with a broken system in the end and ended up having to do a reinstall of the kernel through a live usb. Now I just prefer running through the terminal commands manually. That way I know the exact changes that took place and I can easily pin point what went wrong.
I have mixed feelings about the installer. It's good that anyone can now install arch, but it removes the need of a certain level of understanding to install, it takes away motivation to learn how to install arch. Fortunately you don't have to use the install script, glad there is still the option to do it manually., so I guess it's a way forward generally
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When I started with Linux I was told to take the time and install arch Linux from scratch. I took a whole Sunday for me not knowing anything. But you learn so much doing this that I still advice colleagues of mine to do it this way, if they want to learn more about Linux.
It took me a whole week of after work hours. It crashed after the first update, same with Manjaro. Only MABX and ArchCraft have been smooth experiences for me.
>I still advice colleagues of mine to do it this way, if they want to learn more about Linux.
Me too. In fact, I advise them to do it even when they _don't_ want to learn more about Linux. Heck, pretty much all my communication with them is sending them the installation wiki URL. ( o.o)
@@fsmoura You're evil...
I first read your comment as "When I started with Linux I was told to take the time and install Linux from Scratch." and was surprised that someone would tell a new Linux user to use that distro, as you waste your life for two weeks trying to install something that does not have a package manager, and you have to compile everything from scratch.
Luckily that was not your comment lol
I have tried to install LFS and I did not succeed after trying multiple times
ArcoHyprland one of best
I don't think installing arch the old way was such a big deal (it's mostly just reading along and following isntructions, if you can build an ikea table then you can install arch). But it was very time consuming, so this is a great change.
Overall I think the main problem people run into with arch is after the install. Since it's so open to new things and lets you do whatever you want, if you don't know what you're doing and you just update all the time and install random aur packages you might end up "breaking it". I prefer to run fedora or debian based stuff because they tend to have a safety net for my own stupidity, haha.
Yeah, of course once you know more its easier to plan ahead. On that regard I'm very happy that my first distro was mint because timeshift / btrfs snapshots are introduced to you on the welcome screen. But if you come straight from Windows breakage is just a couple clicks away...
I think nowadays immutability is the core of user friendliness (ChromeOS and SteamOS do it, though that alone isn't a good argument). A more stable update stream sadly doesn't protect the machine from user error. astOS is a minimal, atomically updating Arch based distro. BlendOS comes with great container management and is going declarative (like the OG NixOS but probably more beginner friendly). There's Fedora Silverblue, OpenSuse microOS (rolling) and they're adding an immutable version of their point release soon too.
Dude. I can't see the complexity
that is because you are the best !
just use nix I mean
I recently moved from Win11 to Arch after a very long break from linux (last time I used it, I was running gentoo in like 2008 as desktop, then centos in 2011 for a home server). I used archinstall because I just wanted something up and running fast and already know the linux guts so I wouldn't have been learning much doing it manually. Archinstall is great.
calam-arch is pretty good too. it's almost like installing manjaro, that's how easy it is.
I've tried this method half a year ago and I can confim, that it's way quicker and more user friendly than old, manual approach. With old way I was always forgetting something and was need to chroot again with the usb stick.
The mirror selection menu allows you to only select American mirrors instead of foreign ones which IMO is highly recommended if you want faster downloads. Also, the bootloader selection only defaults to GRUB on systems that don’t have UEFI; it defaults to systemd-boot on systems that do.
I used this video to install Arch early this morning and learned about iwctl in the process. Thanks DT really like your content.
I think for beginners it will still be daunting because they don't really know what each step is doing or what the choices are or why one would choose something.
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I think for beginners they shouldn't even be installing arch and should install something beginner friendly like Linux mint
Problem with new users is fear of the terminal. In all honesty I think they'll find this less 'scary' than regular terminal commands are making it more accessible
I like how arch is getting better for new users to linux for us. keep upo the good videos :)
Archinstall is a good option if you installed the manual way 100times or just have to quickly install some machines. The problem with Arch now easier and widely available is, that beginners should be aware how you update Arch in a safe way and debug if the system breaks. There were installer even with GUI before archinstall that is not the problem. If the user is not afraid of keeping his system running Arch in my opinion is the best Linux for everyone.
DT Great video! Two thumbs up! The Archlinux script install has been out for a while and makes installing easy. I made exactly the same mistakes you did (if you didn't do it on purpose to make a point) with the partitioning and formatting the disk or disks. But I still like using my method of installing via ssh since I have several computers. Boot a Archlinux install thumb drive on the target machine to be installed, start sshd, then create passwd and copy the IP address. Then login from a second host machine into the target machine, use your text notes to copy and paste into a terminal once login for your custom install. One or more installs can be done this way. :)
I’m still new to Linux and tried introducing myself to it by installing Linux mint, but trying to configure my hardware was a nightmare. After I heard about arch’s rolling release, I switched over to see how bad it could be, ran arch-install and everything’s been running fine since. I’ve learned more about Linux and have actually been running it through arch, it just works
I had to install on my media center yesterday. I've already installed using the guide on different machines but yesterday I really didn't fell like going through it again. The install script worked perfect and it made my day.
I can understand that there might be practical reasons why going through the "full" Arch installation process might be better, but Linux becoming easier to use is a good thing. This comes across like Arch people being mad that the process is being democratized for people who don't want to bother with the entire installation process.
>Linux becoming easier to use is a good thing
Heck no, it's not. Once you start bringing in the riff raff, they stink up the place with their noobness, and pretty soon you need to move to an even more exclusive/elite distro.
I mean what does an install script have anything to do with other Arch users? We all have free will, choose what you want, don't question why someone would choose a different start.
DIY distros require some level of knowledge that not everyone just selecting options in a TUI/GUI installer might have. Moreover, you get to know your installation better if you do it manually, which WILL come in handy when you have to do some troubleshooting.
Archinstall is good if you are a seasoned user and know your preferences, not so much if it's your first time installing a DIY distro. If that's the case, you should face the complexity right off the bat because it pays off later on.
Newbies and Arch wannabes don't have this knowledge and it only creates problems for the rest of the userbase because they don't even know the most basic steps to troubleshoot their systems, which means they often give the most bare and useless bug reports ever seen and waste countless hours of developer and community time. Arch is not a beginner distro and shouldn't be treated as such.
@fsmoura i take it you want linux to stay under 4% market share forever
@@nishiko28Well....in fairness to them, I don't think it has to be a choice between DIY distros like Arch/Gentoo and attracting new users. We can do both and still gain people who are sick of Windows and Mac OS.
But I agree with you that part of the problem with Linux getting taken up by "noobs" is people (not fsmoura necessarily) who think that Linux has to be a secret club that only people who compile their system from the ground up can enjoy.
Wow, that was an incredibly easy way to install Linux. I wish all the distributions had this way of installing. The only thing that screwed me up was forgetting about the iso file still selected as the boot device in virtualbox. After shutting down and removing it, all was well. There is a lot of stuff that needs to be installed though. Simple stuff like zip and unzip are missing and a lot of scripts depend on these utilities being there. I had to do a lot of research into configuring Alacritty and installing fonts. The newer version has a TOML config file and I just went straight to the documentation on it and learned how to configure everything but the default configuration for fonts was not to my liking so that was a must. I never had to mess with fonts in other distributions as the defaults were all great to work with.
Now just to fill you in on the downside, I tried to do another install at work from memory because I thought it was so easy and neglected to select multilib and my Alacritty terminal had no visible characters in it, so the terminal was unusable! Had to Ctrl-Alt-F3 to do anything that required terminal. I didn't know how to enable the multilib from the command line, so I just did another re-install selecting mulitlib this time and then I couldn't log in! This turned out to be due to me selecting the "graphics acceleration" setting in the Virtualbox settings before booting up. My Intel video card did not like that setting and locked up the login screen when attempting to enter a password. After turning off that setting, everything started to work just like the installation that went well on my home setup.
I'm glad Opensuse Tumbleweed Slow-roll was made for a laptops users and desktops that have limited bandwidth per month. I hope Arch Linux would do the same in the future. I have no cap for internet but once you start traveling other countries, you might not get good internet and so rolling release might not be a good option for some. My only wish is a slow rolling release of Arch would be great.
I have to say that I was very impressed by the install script, and it saved me (a bad typist) more than an hour.
I love Arch Linux and the install script is not too hard to use. But you missed a few important points:
1. The install script doesn't automatically connect to WiFi. So you need to run iwctl and connect your WiFi before you start. This s not at all obvious and the script probably ought to run it for you.
2. You need to partition your disk. Most newbies won't know how to do this properly, although I do think that there are defaults.
3. If you're trying to create a dual-boot system with an existing Windows partition, than archinstall won't recognize it and configure grub properly. A more sophisticated installer like Endeavor has will do this for you.
None of these are killers and Arch is still my distro of choice for various reasons. But I don't recommend it to new users who aren't prepared to get their hands dirty. Even with the install script there's a lot that you need to know.
Got into serious trouble with my current install so I have to re-install Arch again ... But seeing this I'm kind of looking forward to it XD
I love Arch and your contents.
Hey DT, hope to see an OpenSuse Tumbleweed review soon. The last one you did was 6 years ago 🤯
This is tempting me to try out Arch. I had settled on Debian 12 and would hate to have to switch over to another distro if I liked it better.
I drink the salty tears of the fanboys who complain it's not easy enough - they just want a distro that proves they know something, and now Arch no longer gives them that XDDD. This is absolutely a win for linux and people should be happy for it.
My best description on terminal experience is you feel like you're in The Matrix doing it I am getting more comfortable as I elevate my consciousness into achieving a higher goal.
I use arch linux as main distro, installed with archinstall. Works flawlessly. I used the archinstall script many times, to test various desktop environments or wm in archlinux and it's so easy
Very nice,enjoy all your videos,thanks D.T.
partially agree, still the btrfs partioning the way i wanted it, required a lot of trial error
"two threads of my 24 threads thread ripper" unbeatable!
It's good that using Linux has become easier. It still has it's difficult moments. Now it's usable by users with a medium level of skill. People always talk about installing it, when talking about Arch, which is pretty stupid IMHO. The more interesting part of using Linux is what we do and create with it. I completed my MBA in Russia on Linux. I recorded an Indy Rock album with friends on Linux. Man team penguin needs to make some strides with music production software. Using VSTs in Linux is a nightmare and doing the one man band thing with some guitars, a bass and a drum machine program is kinda difficult. I'm impressed with the strides in gaming thanks to Valve and Proton.
I really like the arch install command because it lets me just install a super minimal install with all the basics already set up and then I just build my system from that. For me it only saves time from what I would have done anyways, and then I just add only what I want and not what is preinstalled with the more bloated profiles.
Easy! Well... every distro out there do a standard installation. But can you do an easy full disk encryption install?
I should have watched your video yesterday before installing Arch OMG ... I did it with the installation guide and such, took me about an hour or two doing so, with the bad being unable to get my network working properly (it's odd that network works fine in terminal, but it doesn't replicate onto the install)
Have done the normal installation in the past but used the install script for my more recent build. it is a handy time saver. nice to have the choice for the time poor.
I love this both for its convenience, and as a concept. I can show people who are interested in Linux how to install Arch this way, then they can get to learning Linux by using linux, and install it manually later if they so choose. It's convenient because I can have an Arch system with a full featured desktop environment like KDE up and running in less than 3 mintues, and I can do it on multiple computers back to back very quickly. Manual installation is good to know, but when you arleady know it, it's nice to have a way of doing it more efficiently when needed.
Arch install is very nice, easy ,but also gives you a choice to manually change staff.
It has gotten better. I honestly love using it.
The most difficult part of installing Arch is partitioning the disk and setting up file systems etc., especially if you're going to do something like LVM with volume groups and logical volumes or btrfs with multiple subvolumes. It doesn't seem like this really helps with that? Once you've go the disk partitioned, this seems like it would be pretty sweet though, would save you from the tedium of typing the other 10 or so commands.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 That has nothing to do with installing Arch, but I’ve never had a single issue with it as long as I checked the News before updating. Sometimes there will be a breaking change where you need to create a new symbolic link or something before the update.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 I don’t know exactly what you’re asking.
If you’re asking what your point is related to, it’s related to maintaining Arch as opposed to installing it, which the video was about.
@emmanuelrousseau7889 "Installation" of an operating system is getting the OS installed. With most Linux distributions or Windows, this is basically the installation wizard.
When people say Arch is hard to install, that's what they mean. Getting the software you want installed and integrated is similar regardless of distro. I'd argue it's easier on Arch because of the repos having more software and the AUR.
I have installed it and that was easy like a piece og cake . amazing video DT :)
How did you do it? Im trying to do it but the closest i can even get is getting to the white line blinking at me on a black screen also been trying for almost 3 hours at this point but cant get any further
@@deathdrop you did maybe something wrong. for me worked very easy
@@manee427 i dont think so but i also have no idea if i did it right
here cuz of that thumbnail xD
I just use EndeavorOS at this point. Its got a GUI installer.
I've no idea what I'm doing in the terminal, but it makes me feel like a decker, so let me pretend and feel the excitement!
I thought Arch used to have TUI "installation script" decades ago before they stopped supporting and eventually removed it, leaving a completely manual CLI installation method. This installation script obviously has similarities to how the way the old one worked, but it still seems quite different. I don't use Arch so I haven't given this a try yet, but it does look like a step in the right direction. I thought it was dumb to give up and just get rid of the installation script to begin with, instead of improving it and working out the bugs and problems it did have.
People say it's hard to install because there's no mention of the archinstall command after booting the iso, I didn't realize it existed before watching this video.
Same. Mine vms are based on arch. And manually formating and doing standard configs was annoying. Now i can use archinstall to quickly setup vm and just add browser and guest additions in 1 menu.
Option 2 if you like Arch is to consider Garuda as it's point and click easy to get going. It works well for Steam Emulation - running 98% of the games, including some other titles with some fiddling like World of Warships and until the latest changes, League of Legends.
My only gripe is that the person in charge is busy and very very slow on updating programs in the repository and I can see it very easily becoming a dead version at any time as there is no large team of devs behind it. So it's good.. but... I'd not use it for school or work or anything that is productivity based.
That said, moving back from Windows to Linux ( 21 operating systems so far in my life, Windows being only 6 of those ) was literally ripping off the band-aid on that old wound and getting the pain over with. Windows 10 bricked itself three times in a year. The data was fine but the thing was unable to finish loading due to drivers or something. Recovery did nothing. I was looking at being forced into upgrading to Windows 11 and that would require a whole new motherboard and CPU as mine didn't support their latest DRM and anti-copying technology ( simplifying it a lot) Basically $600 and a new copy for $150 as sorry, too much would be changed to keep my old license as valid... to stay current as Windows 10 was constantly dying on me.
So one day in a fit of anger at the third crash and no hope of recovery, after trying to recover the machine for three days ( thank god I had my Macbook as a spare ), I went out, spent $25 on the cheapest name-brand SSD I could and dropped Linux on it.
Simple, works, and run modern games on my old hardware just as fast. Yes,k a bit of a learning curve, but no worse than moving Windows versions or hopping onto any new phone or something like a Chromebook where the OS is not the same as before.
It crashes maybe once a month versus every 2-3 days. Huge win and aside from League and some specific games like Genshin, it all works.
My take-away is that Linux is not what it was even two years ago and with installers like this, it is really never easier to cut that umbilical cord to the evil empire and gain your freedom. And save your pocketbook at the same time.
This is the EZ way for a standard install but if you want to use an LVM and/or encrypt your drive, it quickly gets a lot more involved with quite a few more steps and the archinstall script won't give you those options
I know very well what the commands do. I started using FreeBSD, then SuSe, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian and some fumbling around with Antergos and Arch. It's not that I don't respect Arch. I love it. Running Endeavour OS as a daily driver.
But I think a powerful installer is underestimated. I don't use Arch because I don't want to learn a specific order of commands just install an operating system. I'm a user that wants an operating system to install and work. Of course I want to understand what I'm doing. But often you need a UA-cam video or guide to do all kinds of stuff in a specific order, just installing an operating system. It's just not that interesting to me.
W video bro, It worked for me
I love Arch, it's easy to use and the UI is like windows, runs windows apps easily via wine or proton runs 100% faster than windows, my only gripe is games with anticheat are still not running right.
The problem i always have, i put my Root partition and home partition on two separate drives. I can't ever figure out how to mount and configure those properly in the Arch setup. Setting the proper flags and mount options between both drives.
Im an Arch user for 4 years now and its great to see someone who isn't terminally online gatekeeping arch, by saying it is difficult ☠️
So now it's like debian?
... but with current instead of ancient sw
I would like to like Debian, but it is so f-ing outdated.
i wanted to install archlinux but the only thing im afraid of is not finding the required drivers and not finding the programs i'd need in uni 💀 i only got 25gb free on ssd out of 128 and would probably need to format it before installing archlinux as i want to shift completely and only use windows in vm when i'll need to use it once in a while 🚶♂i want to manually install the stuff but that being said i am afraid of messing up on my only laptop and then getting fckd up by projects
Thank you for this!
Before having watched the video: nothing is stopping you from doing it the hard way
Which I do every time because I want to tweak a bunch of details, e.g. file system stuff. Though archinstall looks like it gets you something pretty reasonable, but I am a bit curious how hard the manual partitioning bit is to use to get things exactly like you want it wrt. filesystems, LVM, and encryption compared to doing a manual install.
Time.
I cannot express how much pain this video saved me from
Arch used to be the faster version of a souce linux install versus slow and tedious Gentoo or lfs install. But it still had the low level install cred from the source community. Especially if you compliled your own custom kernal. Now im not sure if Arch gets this cred if this becomes default. This install reminds me of an open suse install from 1996.
why disk configuration is skipped
Installed arch via archinstall recently and it bugged on me by creating ~16Gb of empty space betveen sda1 and sda2 and around 5Gb of empty space after last partition. Fixing was annoying but other than that worked great
Installing Arch was never a hard thing, it was just tedious.
i installed arch by hand knowing this was an option just to learn the system. i was able to recover it fine from accidentally bricking it. learning the system is worth it, so at least go through a manual arch install in a VM just to learn before using archinstall. if i were to install arch now id use archinstall because i already did a manual install and know the basics anyways.
(ps if youre curious how i bricked it twice, first time i tried to uninstall vlc media player on kde because it wasnt working.. and i was like "yep that uninstall size seems about right" and i accidentally uninstalled some part of my DE making it just not load, the second time i was in kde settings and trying to add a boot splash just broke the system. both times i was able to go in with a live arch usb and fix the issues.)
You can't skip disk configuration or mirror, bro. You're an advanced Linux user, right?
Installing Arch is like learning math. It's important to understand how to do it manually so it's not 'magic'. After you understand how the sausage is made it's fine to use automatic installations.
Good stuff, thanks dude, :)
Debian master race!!
Imagine using an OS named after your ex wife
honestly, even for a n00b it isn't that bad... once you have done a few times, it becomes second nature! EVEN WITHOUT THE NEW INSTALLER!
Arch now includes time zones US/... it has US/Central US/Eastern etc. I prefer using actual time zone names them rather than using the city names.
Back in the day when I used Arch linux, pretty much when it launched back in 2002-ish there was an installer and then they removed it. But I still don't like not intuitive "pacman -S" compared to "apt install" and Debian just works
Rewatching this and trying to use archinstall after not using it for a while. I noticed the user and root password is stored in plaintext. there is currently an issue about that on the github as well.
guys if installing kde gives you errors, run "pacman -Sy archlinux-keyring && pacman -S archinstall" before running "archinstall". This should be fixed in the next release.
have they made it secure? it had problems with security bc paswd was in txt file that can be recovered
Arch linux is hard to Install?? I'll say I never installed Direct arch But Hell Manjaro is easy as pie to install.. My Question is, Is that install Script now In the Arch ISO itself?? If so Might try it out..
When was Arch hard to install in the first place?
Coming from a Slackware guy
how to use xinti file to start window manager in arch i am stuck in between diplay manager and xinit. Like i have installed arch linux with window manager "DWM" and i create two user and now i want to try other window manager like "xmonad , awesome ,etc " and some desktop enviornment so when i use a dispaly manager like "lightdm" it does show me xmonad but not showing DWM in user session and i tried to download other like "xfce4 " lightdm show me xmonad and lightdm in user-session but not showing me my dwm . I want to keep dwm as my default and want to use other user for using other desktop enviornment and window manager what should i do . And i also tried it with xinitrc file but in second user xmonad does not work and dwm does for that . Need help any one i am new to arch linux
I am not sure about the DWM package on Arch's repositories, but if you installed DWM by building it from source, there will be no .desktop file in your xsessions folder, therefore you will not be able to choose DWM from your display manager. In order to be able to do that, you will have to create a .desktop file for DWM in '/usr/share/xsessions'.
You can make a script somewhere in your system called 'startdwm', then you'll put this inside of it:
#!/bin/sh
# before the next line, put the programs that you want to autoinit such as ' &'
exec dwm
After that, you'll type, in your terminal, this:
chmod +x
Then you're going to create a file called 'dwm.desktop' in '/usr/share/xsessions'.
In this file, you'll put this:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=DWM
Exec=sh
Type=Application
After this, you'll start your display manager and, theoretically, the DWM session should be listed in there.
@@lucolesco Thanks brother i got it later that day i saw your comment now,
the arch manual installation was needed because it gatekept idiots out of arch, now with the script people who don't know a damn about arch linux or how to maintain their system or ask for help on the forums or have common sense when it comes to doing anything on their system that isn't shown in the gui.
arch is a DO IT YOURSELF distribution so when you're using the archinstall script and having everything done for you then you won't understand anything when you finish installing
That install script is pretty cool
It's like Debian minimal.
it has more firmware than debian minimal, I found this out while setting up my USB WIFI. Arch by comparison is much easier!
@@Jackarius86 Much easier? I don't know. But I prefer stability. Arch breaks all the time.
@@ordinarryalien It does a few things right, but yes, for productivity, it's hell at times. Take my printer. It prints just fine, but the scanner function - maybe it works today, maybe it doesn't. Same with something as basic as USB drive support. Maybe it's happy, maybe it sits there. Half the time I try to launch Open Office (I still call it that - lol) it.. does nothing and hangs.
But it does run Steam fine. lol. It's very stable until it requires a reboot as the shell has decided to go brain-dead. Thankfully it takes 20 seconds to reboot, but it's still annoying. That said, with ZFS, I have not lost any data or had the drivers eat themselves, which Windows LOVED to do if a game crashed for some reason.
My next machine is probably going to be something different as the arch community is very small and when stuff breaks, almost all of the scripts and fixes assume you are running something other than Arch.
DT definitely is in Chicago..XD
Would there be any real advantage in installing Linux from Scratch? Since I have a particular AMD system with X cores, might there be some optimizations I could apply to improve performance?
Linux from Scratch is just painfully to install. I don‘t think you want to give that a try. It is an interesting read, but in my personal opinion not worth the time. Gentoo is perhaps the more feasible approach and you could gain perhaps a little bit if you optimize the kernel and compile-options but in the end most what you safe is disk space. I have tinkered around with Gentoo several times and they just recently updated their binary repositories to have more packages, but in the end I came back to Arch as the package management and the timesaving by using pre-compiled packages just is way more beneficial for me then the gains I could perhaps get. If you don‘t aim for performance but instead you want to have control over the licenses the packages that you use applies, that is a much more interesting view on that approach. Remember that you could also under Arch swap kernels, search in the wiki I think for realtime and zen there should be packages available, but there are even unofficial kernels available as far as I remember. But if you want to give LfS a try don‘t be discouraged by me I just believe that Arch is the best option at the moment.
you would have to look up the docs online to make sure it supports however many cores you need to use, I would guess that it will work just fine straight out the box though
does it have secure boot?
9:49 could you do a video on saving the install to config file and using that file to install?
Just save the file locally or online and then the next time you want to install import it by appending --config and then the path or url to a website with the config.json.
@@peter_hauer noted thanks!
I always said if you want to really learn Linux go trough entire Linux code and after a thorough study install LFS for better experience...
No internet after installing though :(
I just can't imagine taking a photo of yourself for the thumbnail looking like this and not dying a little bit inside.
IMHO the manual installation process of something like Gentoo or Arch is great if what you want is the ability to script a custom installation, or learn the most basic steps of the installation process but it gets tedious once you have done it a couple of times. Gentoo has always had better installation handbook than Arch, arch is just an incoherent wiki of articles that if you manage to figure out you can install the thing, probably the Arch team expects you to have read the LFS book before trying their manual install. Ironically people think Gentoo is more hardcore than Arch. Just kidding.
what I think the arch team should do is offer the installation script from within the guide and in each of the entries give you bits of code to consider for them in the script so you can make your own script easily.
What if you chose all destop environment
It would install them all. But I don't think it will let you.
now do hyprland on arch virtualbox
good vid btw
lol he's genuinely so happy
I don't see the point, I thought the reason why it was originally hard to install was to try and put off new users from trying it, now they want to make it easier? but if they want to make it easier then why not just use a graphical installer like everyone else does? this seems like a half way house approach.
I've tried the archinstall script multiple times in VMs and i haven't gotten it to work so far. I tried it over a span of almost a year or something with multiple months in between. The first two attempts after pressing install the script would just exit and kick me back to the tty. The third time was very recently, and it finally started installing this time, but failed when configuring grub because there wasn't enough space, eventhough i had a 1gb efi partition. Maybe i did something wrong the last time, but i'm still hesitant to trust the script at this point over a manual install. I don't use arch anymore at the moment though.
I find that odd - I have used the script 4 times so far and it has worked perfectly every time
@@Jackarius86 yeah i don't know what's going on there. Like i said, maybe the last time i tried it it might have been an error on my part, but the other times it would just exit to tty without any error message. I tried it a few times in a row making sure i didn't accidentally skip an option or something, but it kept exiting.
@@juipeltje it always exits to tty after the install. Are you sure it didn't actually install it without realising?
@@Jackarius86 no it happened literally immediately after pressing install, just exited out to tty right away. At first i thought maybe there was some delay before it starts but nothing happened.
@@juipeltje its odd, but IDK what else to tell you other than try again, there may have been something you missed, maybe your network isn't set up, or you haven't configured it properly?
Last time I used archinstall on my VMWare WS Pro, the script won't start. I don't know why.
Sounds like a skill issue.
@@halfsourlizard9319nah the script just doesn't work really well i think, i've tried it 3 times, the first two times i just kicked me back to the tty without doing anything.
Arch linux isn't really aboput installing, I mean it is to some extent, but me for example, I can install it no problem, but I broke it like 3 times and went back to debian
I don't get it. If you don't know anything about Linux and IT you don't know what swap, mirror, grub and more is. So it makes no difference. I need to go to the wiki and read and learn everything from scratch anyway. And most likely I don't understand much of this even with the wiki. I really try this but it is not "easy". Maybe easier than before because you can select now what you need but it is still trusting to do and select what I don't understand.
I tried Endeavour OS bevor and I bricked it after about 2 weeks because I updated every start and then I got an error from an update und I didn't understand anything what didn't worked. After a wile I found update anything at all so I wiped the system and went to Kubuntu. Not the best distro and not war I wanted but better then Windows.
Even the 3 months old daughter of my friend can install it
DT is not in Chicago, the accent sounds like Louisiana, anybody can identify the accent better?
He's said in other videos that he lives in Louisiana.
esier than debian? and will boot after kernel update. first and last time i test arch multiple times it allways not boot after kernel update. kernel was 0byte so it could not boot. thats linux/arch no backup kernel on boot menu. thank god windows 10 works and keep working. who need 11 and ads
I ran the archinstall script recently. Don't recommend it. It didn't create a swap pariton and had systems boot. I remember selecting the grub bootloader but I can't be sure. Either way I ended up with a broken system in the end and ended up having to do a reinstall of the kernel through a live usb. Now I just prefer running through the terminal commands manually. That way I know the exact changes that took place and I can easily pin point what went wrong.
if your scared of using the terminal, you shouldn't be installing Arch. doesn't make sense to me.
I'm not scared to use the terminal but I AM scared of black blank space/screen like black tv or monitor 😂
I have mixed feelings about the installer. It's good that anyone can now install arch, but it removes the need of a certain level of understanding to install, it takes away motivation to learn how to install arch.
Fortunately you don't have to use the install script, glad there is still the option to do it manually., so I guess it's a way forward generally
Documentation on Arch Wiki is too good. pretty sure people from all around the Linux community arch users or not use it here and there
what a sad time to be alive, I use arch BTW
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