Just a couple of things to note regarding the jacket... Regarding the zipper: It has a bi-directional zipper, and they are supposed to be zipped initially by pulling downward, and away on both halves, as you join the two halves together, then pull the zipper up once you have it joined. If you watch closely, you'll see that the two times that you had the zipper mate perfectly, that is exactly what you did, and it joined no problems. Regarding the chest pockets vs lower pockets: This style and design of jacket was originally designed to be worn under military webbing/H-Harnesses. A lower set of pockets would be covered completely by the lower belt, which is why the higher set "slash pockets" are used, since they will still be accessible while wearing your LBH. Just a note, I have this same jacket myself in the Sage Green color, and have worn it for close to 5 years now. I have never had a zipper failure, and other than having to re-water proof it, have found it to be an awesome piece of kit that has served me in all types of weather on the Canadian East Coast. Love the channel and the gear reviews, keep up the awesome job!
HOLY POCKETS! Looks like a great jacket all in all. Most jackets with dual zips will take a second to line up correctly and the stow away hood will almost always create a thicker collar. At the end of the day it has to be comfortable for each person. Great review!
Yup, welcome to the military offset zipper issue... I can't tell you how many times I have fought with that dang zipper on military uniforms!!! They never break, but bother the hell out of me... Looks like a good Jacket.. Thanks for sharing
I have been using the Condor Summit everyday for 8 years now. The front zipper has just started to fail. Probably for the reason you see in the vid, it zips uneven and after years of use, it has damaged one side of the zipper and it's now stock (can't unzip all the way down). Also the left chest pocket's zipper has started to unsew, again easily fixable if you own a sewing machine. The writs edge are starting to show a bit of wear, but nothing that compromise the jacket's efficacy. I also had the wrists' velcro binder not holding in place for a few years. I fixed it by simply cutting the plastic hooks and replacing them by self-adhesive velcro tape. Did the job perfectly. I'm considering buying a new one and fixing the zipper of my old one to use for dirty jobs. 9/10 (-0.5 for not being 100% waterproof, -0.25 for being too hot in summer, -0.25 for not having handwarmer pockets).
I think the location of the hand pockets are to accommodate the hip belt on your pack when hiking. My OR rain jacket is the same way. It's nice when hiking but not so nice when your not.
This jacket is designed for a "Tactical" role, meaning the end-user would be wearing some kind of LBE/Battle belt and more than likely wearing gloves to protect the hands. Thus, no need for hand pockets, and the front pockets are high so they won't interfere with a battle belt/chest rig/backpack straps.
I picked this jacket up at Brigade Quartermaster for $70... The biggest issue I've had so far is the zipper. It hasn't failed, but it's a two way zipper (i.e. you can unzip it from the bottom while it's still zipped up to your neck. I've had issues where the lower zipper shifts while unzipping and then the zipper comes off track and gets stuck. Other than that small issue, I love this thing...
I bought this jacket about ten years ago in OD green. It held up for about six years until the zipper failed. They need to put a metal one-way zipper on this jacket and that would fix the problem. I liked the jacket so much though, that I just bought another one from the AAFES store in black. I'll just have to be more careful with this zipper. It wasn't worth the cost to replace the zipper considering the cost of the jacket, but I think I got my money's worth out of the first one.
Hey great video! I just wanted to say i recently got one of these and i don't think its a faulty zipper mine is stiff, it grabs on the the fabrics and clings to the other zipper and it does push the other zipper down i think it just is like that for most. Also the hood is the same way when you fold it in its uncomfortable to fold the collar down, but all in all its a great jacket i personally like it its comfortable and all around a really nice jacket.
I have the same jacket in OD. I returned the first one I got because the zipper was bad. It did the same thing as yours but would get stuck at the bottom and would not go up or down. The replacement jacket's zipper has been flawless. I wish it had the addition of low handwarmer pockets and 6 inch zippers at 3:00 and 9:00 at the hem for access to a pistol. if it did it would be almost the perfect light jacket in my book.
What temperature range is this jacket good in? It gets around 56-80 degrees F where I live so I'm wondering if I should get the Summit zero or the Summit regular.
TheOutdoorGearReview Great review but I still have one question. You said you have been in the rain with it, and you may have answered this in the video but I didn't catch it. How water resistant is this shell? Where I live when it rains, it pours. I don't doubt this shell will keep you dry when it's drizzling, but would it keep you dry and warm if it was raining heavily with a bit of wind?
Very nice review Luke. I've been wanting one of these jackets before last fall but haven't had a chance to wear it. The one I bought was the Condor micro fleece jacket which has served me well. I did a review on it. Can't wait for your next video of a trip man. Take care. -Jacko
I've had this jacket for four years. My only real complaint with it is the hook and loop at the wrist which failed three months after I got it. Stood in a hour long down pour to see if it would protect me did so. Did get to feel damp sorta
I bought this jacket after seeing your review. i got the foliage green. so far i like it. zipper a little goofy but i got it under control after messing with it a little. Like your reviews thanks a bunch!
Rothco effectively sells the same jacket at about the same price. On their version, the hood is removable. I've had mine for about 8 months (so through the winter) and I wore it a lot since it doesn't get terribly cold in southeastern Arizona. I've enjoyed this jacket immensely.
About the zipper, I have a tad gear stealth hoodie that while it doesn't do it as bad, I do run into the uneven zip issue if I don't pay attention and the two zippers are not lined up right when I run the other end through them and I've read comments similar about them. It might be a symptom with that style of zipper.
Great review. Hopefully the company's will listen to your pro's and con's. I've had jackets with zippers that did the same thing and it can be a pain. Thanks.
First of all, Two things: 1st. The "chest pockets" are ment to be used with a backpack on, so you can use them while the "belt" of the pack is around your waist 2nd. If your Zippers are not running smooth, take a candle and run it up and down on both sides, lubrication and a little bit of water resistence :) Waited so long for this review.. :D Im looking for a nice softshell at the moment, but i am very specific about the fit of my jackets.. slim cut around the body and long enought arms for biking (same for the lenght of the jacket). I have not found one that suits me but the "Blue Wave Motala" seems to be good, i havent tried it yet, but for every one with comperable needs... it is not that expensive (80€) I will order it soon :) Sadly the condor is not the one for me, but a great review, as always ! Thank's Luke
I actually have this same jacket. And have some of the same pros and cons. Pros Its light, breathable, durable and inexpensive. Easily washable, almost nothing stains even vehicle oils and grease. I live in Colorado where the weather can be well bipolar its held up to rain, snow, sleet and everything in between. Thanks to this jacket I stayed dry! Its even warm, during the winter I work as a plow driver and have seen negative temperatures this last season. This jacket was almost the only thing I wore and stayed warm, if it dropped negatives I just threw on some gen 3 fleece thermals and that was it. Cons The wrist velcro cuffs, mine were barely functional upon receiving the jacket prior to winter. Now they might as well not exist. The rubber retention straps weren't quality controlled well so the triangular grab pieces were more round than triangle. And they have since gone down hill, the tops have even melted from who knows what. (No fire used near this jacket as its materials are flammable) The zipper.. ah yes the hard to align double zipper. I have the same trouble and sometimes the bottom decides to unzip about an inch, annoying but not all together worth scrapping it. The waist draw strings are sewn to the jacket, again quality control is needing to be stressed as mine weren't. The strips of cloth that are meant to hold the draw strings to the jacket were sown to there own selves and not the jacket seams. All in all good jacket for the price I picked mine up for roughly $80 and would happily do so again. Just wish there quality control was a little more on point.
Thank you for sharing your input my friend. It definitely sounds like a quality control issue. I've been receiving messages from viewers with the same issues that you and I both detailed. Cheers. - Luke
Hey nice review on the jacket, however what really catch my eyes is the triangular TOGR patch on your left arm. Dying to have one, do you sell it pardon me for asking.
I know this is a bit old but I stumbled across it and thought I'd share. I was looking at both this jacket and the Rothco Special Ops Tactical Softshell Jacket. They are nearly identical and I watched many comparison videos of the two before finally going with the Rothco. I did not see your review (wish I did, would have been very helpful) at the time. The Rothco's main difference and what swayed me to it over the Condor was the fact that it has a removable hood. The hood is also fleece lined to add more warmth when wearing it. Obviously the Condor is not as it would probably make the stow away capability impossible. Personally, I do not use the hood much and it stays off most of the time and it is a great feature. The price is also the same and I have zero complaints with it. I use mine when I am at the range shooting and have run it pretty hard and have had zero complaints. Just thought I'd share my experience with a similar jacket.
Good review it would be interesting see if there were other people having issues with that zipper, like you said it could just be that you got a bad one. To me I think the side pockets are too high instead adding another set lower I would just lower the ones they have a couple of inches. The two arm pockets are cool but not sure I would like or use the wrist pocket. I don't see the rear pass through pocket being very useful though I do love pass through pockets for the purpose of keeping your hands warm but I would rather have them in the front, obviously not possible with a full zip jacket. $87 dollars is a excellent price for a soft shell jacket and I could easily look pass all the gripes for that price. Jason
It sounds like this is a fairly common issue as I have heard from many since the video went live. Even so, it's a great jacket. Be well and take care. - Luke
Last winter I used that coat as my patrol jacket. With my base layer of uniform and UA winter turtleneck it kept me warm enough for patrol duties. More importantly it kept me dry, something my issued jacket did not. I need a new now that I have dropped down a size.
The reason the pockets are so high is that the jacket is meant to be paired with armor or a battle belt. To reach the pockets with armor you must slide your hand down the arm opening at an high angle.
I really liked it when the new Marine Corps cammies moved the chest pocket to the shoulders sine you could actually use them when wearing a flak jacket or backpack. With the same reasoning I wish more jackets would put pockets in the arms since with the shoulder and waste straps the pockets are pretty much inaccessible. Nice review again though, Luke.
Great review thanks. I am the complete opposite of you with regards to collars. If I need to wear a jacket then I want the collar upright as you showed with the hood stowed... GREAT COLLAR.... for me. If the collar is wide open and flat as you like then I don't need a jacket on at all.
in the beginning of the video hes wearing what looks like slim fitting cargo pants..anyone know what and where to buy them? this jacket is not $77 on Amazon.. definitely picking one for the winter this year
I have the same jacket, my only issue is there 3x is barely a 2x. Collar takes getting used to for sure. Overall i think its worth the money and a good jacket. I also have the propper soft shell, it costs more but seems of better quality.
Are you wearing your normal size or did you get 1 size up. I wear a small for just about everything. Yours looks a bit big with just a t-shirt, but I imagine if you were wearing a fleece it would pad out well.
Scorpiuszeroone Hmmmm, it has been so long since I have looked at the tag, I don't remember what size that I bought. I will get back to you on this. - Luke
mackuss I normally wear a small, I'm fairly thin, so I did buy a small and it is still roomy enough to wear a base layer or light fleece underneath, so I'd say they run true to size. I got mine on sale from Amazon for about $53 so I had to get while the getting was good. Great jacket in my opinion.
The double zippers are always a bit of a bear to get started in my experience. It seems to be "The Nature of the Beast" so to speak.The metal pit zippers are cold under the arms when wearing only a T-shirt . For the most part I just keep the hood removed on my " Rothco" and a Columbia "Shiver- me -Timbers" or Patigonia "Down Sweater" under it as an insil layer when needed.
Haha, and they are YKK zippers, lol. Nit quality of the jacket but the zipper itself. Jacket is still very good, only cons you say are personel ones. I don't wanna buy me a 250 dollar jacket XD condor summit soft shell, best other option there is. Its only luxery your cons :p Good review dough! love ur vids
Seems quite similar to the "Rothco's Special Ops Tactical Soft Shell Jacket".. A jacket I'll be buying soon for a price of $110, however that jacket has an option of removing the hood and similar pockets all together. The zipper issue you're having I find quite common around these types of zippers and seems to be caused by tight clerance which if I personally will find on the jacket I'm buying will be dealt with by filing down a bit of material. Started watching your videos today and they're great by the way!
great review as always, thank you :) Considering the features of this jacket... and the quality ... i think that out of that 90$ price tag... more than 40% you pay for the name of the company that produces it... There are other jackets, with a more budget friendly price that give you ALMOST the same features, but as long as there are people that do like 10 minutes research on the web to find what make should they buy a certain piece of gear, these jackets will sell quite good. When you buy a certain piece of gear(ANY kind of gear) you should first head to the local shops that might have that kind of gear you are searching, discuss with the shopkeeper as he might give you some feedback about the company. Then if you don't find the thing you like, head over the the on-line shops. Save the links of the things you like, then head over to google/ other search engine and search more info/reviews about that specific gear. Then put in balance: -price; -quality; -how much will you use it; -how will you use it; .. and then make your choice. And check those thrift stores/second hand stores as well, you may find some awesome things there, really cheap( as i found an extremely good gore-tex jacket with less than 5$ and the only problem it has was that the zipper was a bit broken, but easily fixable)
I’m with you on almost all your points except for the second hand thing. With most of gear that works well and I must say I buy a lot of things used. But especially on gore tex or any product with membrane I would never try to buy them second hand. The reason is simple: First, membranes wear out over time. With the right treatment and care you can extend the lifetime by removing residual sweat and fat particles from the membrane. Nevertheless the physical movement wears out the fabric so it becomes useless. But the second point is way more important: The wrong treatment destroys the membrane. This can be either a use of conditioner destroying the fabric chemically or the use of “dwr” spray closing up the membranes tiny holes physically. Either way the membrane is destroyed although you can’t see it when buying. The result is, you get a piece of cloth that doesn’t breathe like a cheap shopping bag and as such is worth not more then 5 bucks.
4:40 This jacket breaks wind. Hahaha. In all seriousness though, imma have to say this is a FANTASTIC jacket!!! Right after you buy one, you wanna buy another! I DEF agree with you on the cheap feeling front zipper though. Even though its YKK which is generally solid, double zips are by nature a bit difficult to manipulate and on this jacket specifically they're fairly unnecessary. The front zips also seem to be somewhat undersized for the overall durable design of this jacket. Also, I totally agree on the missing lower hand pockets. You def find youreslf wishing there were some. Haha. Still, its a great jacket and one im sure ill enjoy for many adventures to come. Thanks for the great review dude.
Good deal on price or not, that zipper is a poor design. The pockets are annoyingly placed but the collar/hood issue wouldn't bother me. Thanks for a great review, this helps me with a decision to buy one of these.
Luke, I hope that Condor will send you a replacement jacket if you contact them. That zipper would be very frustrating for me. It's a nice looking jacket that seems to be functional as well. I have always wanted a TAD Gear jacket but haven't sprung for one yet. Im sure your familiar with their products. They seem to be top notch quality, but at a MUCH higher price point. Apples and oranges I suppose. My philosophy has always been buy once, cry once. Thanks for the excellent, objective review as always. Take care. D Rag
Know what you mean about zippers have a sleeping bag with the same problem. The price is right . If it came with the out door gear review patch I would buy it for sure
I would wear it with pride. The Out Door Gear Review that's how it all started with me long story but I feel lots of people made their way back because of you.
Thanks for this video, I will give this one a pass - the zipper issue is a deal breaker for me: I had to cut myself out of a coat once when the zip broke :D
Yeah the zippers suck 🤬 Zips up just fine? Not mine 🤦♂️ The side zippers can’t be zipped up or down unless you hold the wrist tight to keep it straight
Condor, Rothco and a few other brands sell this jacket. You can get a generic one on eBay for $25. But they are all the same exact jacket. Made in China and sold to these companies. Don’t even waste $90+ or more. Just order the $20 one from eBay. Oh... and these are all LH zip. Seriously, isn’t that obvious? That’s why your having a problem zipping it, your forcing it trying to zip it up with your right hand.
+John Longo Try using a simple glue on the bottom zipper making it static and not able to move. I wouldn't use anything more than hot glue gun to see if it works.
+John Longo To hopefully clarify put a drop of glue between the very bottom zipper and the zipper "links", ruining the two way zipper idea but hopefully making the zipper more functional
good review, but this jacket is for tactical use, hence the alpine pockets which make access easier with a pack or vest on, better to have a hood and fat collar than nothing. guess it depends on your use but that zipper would thoroughly piss me off! thanks for your time, you sold me on getting one, can't go wrong for the money...
fanof runbot a la DPM smock. get it right, then go on & off sweater style. 2 way zip great for accessing fly or pants pockets without unzipping jacket.
I think the reason why they have the front pockets like that is if you have a tactical vest on the position makes the pockets accessible
Just a couple of things to note regarding the jacket...
Regarding the zipper: It has a bi-directional zipper, and they are supposed to be zipped initially by pulling downward, and away on both halves, as you join the two halves together, then pull the zipper up once you have it joined. If you watch closely, you'll see that the two times that you had the zipper mate perfectly, that is exactly what you did, and it joined no problems.
Regarding the chest pockets vs lower pockets: This style and design of jacket was originally designed to be worn under military webbing/H-Harnesses. A lower set of pockets would be covered completely by the lower belt, which is why the higher set "slash pockets" are used, since they will still be accessible while wearing your LBH.
Just a note, I have this same jacket myself in the Sage Green color, and have worn it for close to 5 years now. I have never had a zipper failure, and other than having to re-water proof it, have found it to be an awesome piece of kit that has served me in all types of weather on the Canadian East Coast.
Love the channel and the gear reviews, keep up the awesome job!
HOLY POCKETS! Looks like a great jacket all in all. Most jackets with dual zips will take a second to line up correctly and the stow away hood will almost always create a thicker collar. At the end of the day it has to be comfortable for each person. Great review!
Thanks Living!
As for the jacket, all in all, it's very good. A few changes would make it Great (for me anyways)!
Be well my friend.
- Luke
Yup, welcome to the military offset zipper issue... I can't tell you how many times I have fought with that dang zipper on military uniforms!!! They never break, but bother the hell out of me... Looks like a good Jacket.. Thanks for sharing
I have been using the Condor Summit everyday for 8 years now. The front zipper has just started to fail. Probably for the reason you see in the vid, it zips uneven and after years of use, it has damaged one side of the zipper and it's now stock (can't unzip all the way down). Also the left chest pocket's zipper has started to unsew, again easily fixable if you own a sewing machine. The writs edge are starting to show a bit of wear, but nothing that compromise the jacket's efficacy. I also had the wrists' velcro binder not holding in place for a few years. I fixed it by simply cutting the plastic hooks and replacing them by self-adhesive velcro tape. Did the job perfectly.
I'm considering buying a new one and fixing the zipper of my old one to use for dirty jobs.
9/10 (-0.5 for not being 100% waterproof, -0.25 for being too hot in summer, -0.25 for not having handwarmer pockets).
I think the location of the hand pockets are to accommodate the hip belt on your pack when hiking. My OR rain jacket is the same way. It's nice when hiking but not so nice when your not.
It's a tactical jacket, those packets are meant to be used when you have body armor on.
Comprehensive review--thanks! Helped me make decision to buy competitor jacket.
This jacket is designed for a "Tactical" role, meaning the end-user would be wearing some kind of LBE/Battle belt and more than likely wearing gloves to protect the hands. Thus, no need for hand pockets, and the front pockets are high so they won't interfere with a battle belt/chest rig/backpack straps.
I picked this jacket up at Brigade Quartermaster for $70... The biggest issue I've had so far is the zipper. It hasn't failed, but it's a two way zipper (i.e. you can unzip it from the bottom while it's still zipped up to your neck. I've had issues where the lower zipper shifts while unzipping and then the zipper comes off track and gets stuck. Other than that small issue, I love this thing...
I bought this jacket about ten years ago in OD green. It held up for about six years until the zipper failed. They need to put a metal one-way zipper on this jacket and that would fix the problem. I liked the jacket so much though, that I just bought another one from the AAFES store in black. I'll just have to be more careful with this zipper. It wasn't worth the cost to replace the zipper considering the cost of the jacket, but I think I got my money's worth out of the first one.
Hey great video! I just wanted to say i recently got one of these and i don't think its a faulty zipper mine is stiff, it grabs on the the fabrics and clings to the other zipper and it does push the other zipper down i think it just is like that for most. Also the hood is the same way when you fold it in its uncomfortable to fold the collar down, but all in all its a great jacket i personally like it its comfortable and all around a really nice jacket.
Think you are the only one that show the whole jacket. Thanks!
I have the same jacket in OD. I returned the first one I got because the zipper was bad. It did the same thing as yours but would get stuck at the bottom and would not go up or down. The replacement jacket's zipper has been flawless.
I wish it had the addition of low handwarmer pockets and 6 inch zippers at 3:00 and 9:00 at the hem for access to a pistol. if it did it would be almost the perfect light jacket in my book.
Thanks for sharing your experiences my friend.
The zipper is sounding like a very common issue.
Cheers Hardway.
- Luke
I have the same zipper issue.
Thanks for the review Luke. Could you do a video about the pro's and con's of Soft and Hard Shell jackets/coats and why I would use one or the other?
Sure thing my friend.
I will add that to the list.
- Luke
I know this comment is late but what size jacket did you get cause I can't find jackets like this that are long enough in length
What temperature range is this jacket good in?
It gets around 56-80 degrees F where I live so I'm wondering if I should get the Summit zero or the Summit regular.
TheOutdoorGearReview Great review but I still have one question. You said you have been in the rain with it, and you may have answered this in the video but I didn't catch it. How water resistant is this shell? Where I live when it rains, it pours. I don't doubt this shell will keep you dry when it's drizzling, but would it keep you dry and warm if it was raining heavily with a bit of wind?
Very nice review Luke. I've been wanting one of these jackets before last fall but haven't had a chance to wear it. The one I bought was the Condor micro fleece jacket which has served me well. I did a review on it. Can't wait for your next video of a trip man. Take care.
-Jacko
I've had this jacket for four years. My only real complaint with it is the hook and loop at the wrist which failed three months after I got it. Stood in a hour long down pour to see if it would protect me did so. Did get to feel damp sorta
I bought this jacket after seeing your review. i got the foliage green. so far i like it. zipper a little goofy but i got it under control after messing with it a little. Like your reviews thanks a bunch!
Thank you Vaga.
Enjoy it my friend and take care.
- Luke
Rothco effectively sells the same jacket at about the same price. On their version, the hood is removable. I've had mine for about 8 months (so through the winter) and I wore it a lot since it doesn't get terribly cold in southeastern Arizona. I've enjoyed this jacket immensely.
Thanks for letting us know John.
Be well my friend.
- Luke
About the zipper, I have a tad gear stealth hoodie that while it doesn't do it as bad, I do run into the uneven zip issue if I don't pay attention and the two zippers are not lined up right when I run the other end through them and I've read comments similar about them. It might be a symptom with that style of zipper.
Great review. Hopefully the company's will listen to your pro's and con's. I've had jackets with zippers that did the same thing and it can be a pain. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing Opal!
Be well my friend.
- Luke
First of all, Two things:
1st. The "chest pockets" are ment to be used with a backpack on, so you can use them while the "belt" of the pack is around your waist
2nd. If your Zippers are not running smooth, take a candle and run it up and down on both sides, lubrication and a little bit of water resistence :)
Waited so long for this review.. :D Im looking for a nice softshell at the moment, but i am very specific about the fit of my jackets.. slim cut around the body and long enought arms for biking (same for the lenght of the jacket). I have not found one that suits me but the "Blue Wave Motala" seems to be good, i havent tried it yet, but for every one with comperable needs... it is not that expensive (80€) I will order it soon :)
Sadly the condor is not the one for me, but a great review, as always ! Thank's Luke
Thank you Niklas!
Be well my good friend.
- Luke
I use this jacket for hiking it's fantastic 👍
I actually have this same jacket. And have some of the same pros and cons.
Pros
Its light, breathable, durable and inexpensive.
Easily washable, almost nothing stains even vehicle oils and grease.
I live in Colorado where the weather can be well bipolar its held up to rain, snow, sleet and everything in between. Thanks to this jacket I stayed dry!
Its even warm, during the winter I work as a plow driver and have seen negative temperatures this last season. This jacket was almost the only thing I wore and stayed warm, if it dropped negatives I just threw on some gen 3 fleece thermals and that was it.
Cons
The wrist velcro cuffs, mine were barely functional upon receiving the jacket prior to winter. Now they might as well not exist. The rubber retention straps weren't quality controlled well so the triangular grab pieces were more round than triangle. And they have since gone down hill, the tops have even melted from who knows what. (No fire used near this jacket as its materials are flammable)
The zipper.. ah yes the hard to align double zipper. I have the same trouble and sometimes the bottom decides to unzip about an inch, annoying but not all together worth scrapping it.
The waist draw strings are sewn to the jacket, again quality control is needing to be stressed as mine weren't. The strips of cloth that are meant to hold the draw strings to the jacket were sown to there own selves and not the jacket seams.
All in all good jacket for the price I picked mine up for roughly $80 and would happily do so again. Just wish there quality control was a little more on point.
Thank you for sharing your input my friend.
It definitely sounds like a quality control issue. I've been receiving messages from viewers with the same issues that you and I both detailed.
Cheers.
- Luke
Hey nice review on the jacket, however what really catch my eyes is the triangular TOGR patch on your left arm. Dying to have one, do you sell it pardon me for asking.
I know this is a bit old but I stumbled across it and thought I'd share. I was looking at both this jacket and the Rothco Special Ops Tactical Softshell Jacket. They are nearly identical and I watched many comparison videos of the two before finally going with the Rothco. I did not see your review (wish I did, would have been very helpful) at the time. The Rothco's main difference and what swayed me to it over the Condor was the fact that it has a removable hood. The hood is also fleece lined to add more warmth when wearing it. Obviously the Condor is not as it would probably make the stow away capability impossible. Personally, I do not use the hood much and it stays off most of the time and it is a great feature. The price is also the same and I have zero complaints with it. I use mine when I am at the range shooting and have run it pretty hard and have had zero complaints. Just thought I'd share my experience with a similar jacket.
wondering where did u buy this jacket?
Good review it would be interesting see if there were other people having issues with that zipper, like you said it could just be that you got a bad one. To me I think the side pockets are too high instead adding another set lower I would just lower the ones they have a couple of inches. The two arm pockets are cool but not sure I would like or use the wrist pocket. I don't see the rear pass through pocket being very useful though I do love pass through pockets for the purpose of keeping your hands warm but I would rather have them in the front, obviously not possible with a full zip jacket. $87 dollars is a excellent price for a soft shell jacket and I could easily look pass all the gripes for that price.
Jason
It sounds like this is a fairly common issue as I have heard from many since the video went live. Even so, it's a great jacket.
Be well and take care.
- Luke
Last winter I used that coat as my patrol jacket. With my base layer of uniform and UA winter turtleneck it kept me warm enough for patrol duties. More importantly it kept me dry, something my issued jacket did not. I need a new now that I have dropped down a size.
Thank you for sharing your experiences with the jacket my friend.
Be well and take care.
- Luke
The reason the pockets are so high is that the jacket is meant to be paired with armor or a battle belt. To reach the pockets with armor you must slide your hand down the arm opening at an high angle.
Great review - many thanks for your service !!
I could see just by watching the video that you need to make sure you are pushing the zipper all the way down.
I really liked it when the new Marine Corps cammies moved the chest pocket to the shoulders sine you could actually use them when wearing a flak jacket or backpack. With the same reasoning I wish more jackets would put pockets in the arms since with the shoulder and waste straps the pockets are pretty much inaccessible. Nice review again though, Luke.
Thanks Jay!
Be well my friend.
- Luke
Now what jacket do you love for a bug out situation that has pockets and is water resistant
Hmmm, that is a good question. I will have to think about that one for a bit.
Cheers.
- Luke
I just bought my for a hundred dollars and I like it even more than a similar north face that I have
I brought it two weeks ago and it’s true Condor should remodel the zipper and have a detachable hood for the next Upgrade version of this jacket
Great review thanks.
I am the complete opposite of you with regards to collars. If I need to wear a jacket then I want the collar upright as you showed with the hood stowed... GREAT COLLAR.... for me. If the collar is wide open and flat as you like then I don't need a jacket on at all.
Great review, and suggestions to manufactures.
nuwenese Thank you my friend. - Luke
i got my condor softshell jacket in olive colour i love it !!
in the beginning of the video hes wearing what looks like slim fitting cargo pants..anyone know what and where to buy them?
this jacket is not $77 on Amazon.. definitely picking one for the winter this year
it's $67 on ebay
I have the same jacket, my only issue is there 3x is barely a 2x. Collar takes getting used to for sure. Overall i think its worth the money and a good jacket. I also have the propper soft shell, it costs more but seems of better quality.
Thanks for sharing K Zorro!
Be well my friend.
- Luke
Thanks for the review! Would this be considered wind resistant?
Yes, it has a PU membrane that helps block the wind
Thanks for the review.
Thats why Arc'teryx uses Vislon zippers for the front zipper
Are you wearing your normal size or did you get 1 size up. I wear a small for just about everything. Yours looks a bit big with just a t-shirt, but I imagine if you were wearing a fleece it would pad out well.
Scorpiuszeroone Hmmmm, it has been so long since I have looked at the tag, I don't remember what size that I bought. I will get back to you on this.
- Luke
+TheOutdoorGearReview still waitin for response, lol
mackuss
I normally wear a small, I'm fairly thin, so I did buy a small and it is still roomy enough to wear a base layer or light fleece underneath, so I'd say they run true to size. I got mine on sale from Amazon for about $53 so I had to get while the getting was good. Great jacket in my opinion.
My son just bought one and it has a tricky zipper as well.
How can I get this jacket I'm from India
The bottom zip runner may be slightly too tight.
Great review! I'm seriously thinking about buying this jacket after watching your vid. What size are you wearing? I think we're about the same size.
thedamz07 I'm wearing the small size my friend.
- Luke
TheOutdoorGearReview can u tell me how tall r u, sir? so I could figure out what'd be a good size to wear on?
You should check out Cannae pro gear. They have some really nice stuff.
What's the lowest temperature that you've used this jacket?
Carlos Castrejón 8 below 0 for me
The double zippers are always a bit of a bear to get started in my experience. It seems to be "The Nature of the Beast" so to speak.The metal pit zippers are cold under the arms when wearing only a T-shirt . For the most part I just keep the hood removed on my " Rothco" and a Columbia "Shiver- me -Timbers" or Patigonia "Down Sweater" under it as an insil layer when needed.
Haha, and they are YKK zippers, lol. Nit quality of the jacket but the zipper itself.
Jacket is still very good, only cons you say are personel ones.
I don't wanna buy me a 250 dollar jacket XD condor summit soft shell, best other option there is. Its only luxery your cons :p
Good review dough! love ur vids
Great review... thanks.
just one cuestion, i already read this garment runs a bit small ¿is this truth?
sergio huerta I found that the sizing was right on for my tastes but that's just me.
Cheers.
- luke
Can you wear a hoodie under this or is the collar too high?
+Paganmensch I have worn sweaters with it and it's just fine. I think a hoody will work too but I can't say for sure. - Luke
Paganmensch u
Soooo only negatives are personal preference issues. Main zipper and stowable hood.
Here's a tip, put on some candle wax on the zipper to lube it, it will prolly go a lot smoother. Love the vids btw, keep em up !
Thank you Jebach!
Be well my friend.
- Luke
Seems quite similar to the "Rothco's Special Ops Tactical Soft Shell Jacket"..
A jacket I'll be buying soon for a price of $110, however that jacket has an option of removing the hood and similar pockets all together.
The zipper issue you're having I find quite common around these types of zippers and seems to be caused by tight clerance which if I personally will find on the jacket I'm buying will be dealt with by filing down a bit of material.
Started watching your videos today and they're great by the way!
I'm almost positive that condor and Rothco are the same in terms of this jacket. They just seem to sell it as a different brand.
What I meant to say was that the condor jacket seems to be sold in North America and in Europe it is sold as rothco
You need to have both zipper pulls in the up position and it will zip evenly.
great review as always, thank you :)
Considering the features of this jacket... and the quality ... i think that out of that 90$ price tag... more than 40% you pay for the name of the company that produces it...
There are other jackets, with a more budget friendly price that give you ALMOST the same features, but as long as there are people that do like 10 minutes research on the web to find what make should they buy a certain piece of gear, these jackets will sell quite good.
When you buy a certain piece of gear(ANY kind of gear) you should first head to the local shops that might have that kind of gear you are searching, discuss with the shopkeeper as he might give you some feedback about the company. Then if you don't find the thing you like, head over the the on-line shops. Save the links of the things you like, then head over to google/ other search engine and search more info/reviews about that specific gear. Then put in balance: -price; -quality; -how much will you use it; -how will you use it; .. and then make your choice.
And check those thrift stores/second hand stores as well, you may find some awesome things there, really cheap( as i found an extremely good gore-tex jacket with less than 5$ and the only problem it has was that the zipper was a bit broken, but easily fixable)
Thank you for sharing your views my friend.
Be well and be safe my friend.
- Luke
I’m with you on almost all your points except for the second hand thing. With most of gear that works well and I must say I buy a lot of things used. But especially on gore tex or any product with membrane I would never try to buy them second hand. The reason is simple: First, membranes wear out over time. With the right treatment and care you can extend the lifetime by removing residual sweat and fat particles from the membrane. Nevertheless the physical movement wears out the fabric so it becomes useless. But the second point is way more important: The wrong treatment destroys the membrane. This can be either a use of conditioner destroying the fabric chemically or the use of “dwr” spray closing up the membranes tiny holes physically. Either way the membrane is destroyed although you can’t see it when buying. The result is, you get a piece of cloth that doesn’t breathe like a cheap shopping bag and as such is worth not more then 5 bucks.
@@aaronpohl9817 I wrote that 6 years ago...
@@TuurGoes whoops. I didn’t get that. Sorry!
4:40 This jacket breaks wind. Hahaha. In all seriousness though, imma have to say this is a FANTASTIC jacket!!! Right after you buy one, you wanna buy another! I DEF agree with you on the cheap feeling front zipper though. Even though its YKK which is generally solid, double zips are by nature a bit difficult to manipulate and on this jacket specifically they're fairly unnecessary. The front zips also seem to be somewhat undersized for the overall durable design of this jacket. Also, I totally agree on the missing lower hand pockets. You def find youreslf wishing there were some. Haha. Still, its a great jacket and one im sure ill enjoy for many adventures to come. Thanks for the great review dude.
Hahaha
Like you said brother, it has some negatives but the positives outweigh them.
Cheers!
- Luke
Good deal on price or not, that zipper is a poor design. The pockets are annoyingly placed but the collar/hood issue wouldn't bother me. Thanks for a great review, this helps me with a decision to buy one of these.
You're welcome Joe.
Be well and take care.
- Luke
You know what, i like your videos and you seem to be a cool guy! ;-) - got a new follower!
Luke, I hope that Condor will send you a replacement jacket if you contact them. That zipper would be very frustrating for me. It's a nice looking jacket that seems to be functional as well.
I have always wanted a TAD Gear jacket but haven't sprung for one yet. Im sure your familiar with their products. They seem to be top notch quality, but at a MUCH higher price point. Apples and oranges I suppose. My philosophy has always been buy once, cry once.
Thanks for the excellent, objective review as always. Take care.
D Rag
It the hood were removable, as you suggested, it would stow nicely in the back pocket.
dragland7268 *If...
Thank you for sharing your views D Rag.
Be well my friend and take care.
- Luke
kids say ya gots to pop that coller dude!!!
thanks for the vids
Haha It's what all of the cool kids do!!!
Be well my brother.
- Luke
Know what you mean about zippers have a sleeping bag with the same problem. The price is right . If it came with the out door gear review patch I would buy it for sure
Haha I will have to send you a Patch my friend and you don't even have to buy the jacket!
- Luke
I would wear it with pride. The Out Door Gear Review that's how it all started with me long story but I feel lots of people made their way back because of you.
YESS! finally here
I hope you find it worth watching.
Cheers.
- Luke
Nice job! pretty affordable jacket for what you get.
For the price, it's well worth the money!
No doubt about it.
Cheers.
- Luke
Thanks for this video, I will give this one a pass - the zipper issue is a deal breaker for me: I had to cut myself out of a coat once when the zip broke :D
Nice one Luke! :) -Mohammed
Thank you brother.
- Luke
Bro why were your hands pink in this video
Rothco makes a clone of this jacket for $75. the hood is removable on it i have one and i store the hood in the back pocket
Yes they do and I love that feature.
Be well my friend.
- Luke
Yeah the zippers suck 🤬
Zips up just fine? Not mine 🤦♂️
The side zippers can’t be zipped up or down unless you hold the wrist tight to keep it straight
nice
Condor, Rothco and a few other brands sell this jacket.
You can get a generic one on eBay for $25.
But they are all the same exact jacket.
Made in China and sold to these companies.
Don’t even waste $90+ or more.
Just order the $20 one from eBay.
Oh... and these are all LH zip.
Seriously, isn’t that obvious?
That’s why your having a problem zipping it, your forcing it trying to zip it up with your right hand.
unremovable hood? you serious ???
I love your Dog! ... Husky!?? \^0^/
Rotco has a copy of the jacket as well. I have the OD version. www.rothco.com/product-details/rothco-special-ops-tactical-softshell-jacket
Everybody complains about condors zippers
Condor makes great jackets, BUT, TERRIBLE ZIPPERS! Has anyone out there mastered the front zipper to go up the FIRST time?
+John Longo Try using a simple glue on the bottom zipper making it static and not able to move. I wouldn't use anything more than hot glue gun to see if it works.
+John Longo To hopefully clarify put a drop of glue between the very bottom zipper and the zipper "links", ruining the two way zipper idea but hopefully making the zipper more functional
fanof runbot once I've married the two ends I stop pulling and instead push both tabs up from the bottom until I feel them move, then zip up.
good review, but this jacket is for tactical use, hence the alpine pockets which make access easier with a pack or vest on, better to have a hood and fat collar than nothing. guess it depends on your use but that zipper would thoroughly piss me off! thanks for your time, you sold me on getting one, can't go wrong for the money...
fanof runbot a la DPM smock. get it right, then go on & off sweater style. 2 way zip great for accessing fly or pants pockets without unzipping jacket.
And condor products have not as high quality zippers like maxpedition gear does
You would hope so considering the price difference.
Cheers my friend.
- Luke
Thanks for solved my problem open the zipper bro
If they could just charge a little more and put some YKK zippers all over that jacket...
It would be worth the extra $$.
Cheers.
- Luke
$30.00 @ Aliexpress 😂
That script
i found one for 50 bucks without the pockets inside
and its multicam