I am a taichi practicioner of Yang Style (Yang Jwing Ming) and this was very interesting to see Master Xian demonstrate. I think we get too worried about who can beat who, or is this useful against this style or that as the underlying principles that are called on in an instant are what matters. However my point is that people often say that the true secrets of Taichi or Kung Fu have been lost but I would say that means there is opportunity for those who wish to study, learn and create new knowledge to rival the past glory. If we spent more time doing, than arguing over who is stronger, tougher etc and pursue knowledge the benefits to the art, ourselves and society may be more than we could imagine! Peace, knowledge and the search for truth in all its beauty!!
+Four Owls Just following through on my own post, as I have since 'converted' to Chen taiji, the graceful, more martial and original form of Taiji. Chen is a lifetime study but Yang was a great introduction and stepping stone to this amazing art.
@@TheStrataminor The Yang style was created by Yang Luchan, but over the generations, it had undergone quite a fair amount of changes, most notably the removal of "fa jing" in its movements. Yang Chengfu, a descendant of Yang Luchan, also changed the movements to "large circles" performed only at a slow pace, without alternating between fast and slow which is a Yin and Yang concept retained in the Chen style. Yang Jwing Ming happens to have the same surname "Yang", which is a pretty common surname in China. He is not the creator of the Yang style, which your inserting his name in parenthesis seemed to suggest.
Chen is shaolin quan. The taiji secret is not lost but only few can achieved and it is in the open. But people are not able to grasped it. Essence of taijiquan is " use Yi/Mind, not Li/brute strength ". Yin/Yang outside is External MA. Yin/Yang express inside is Internal MA.
Yi Long, Shaolin monk warrior defeated 3 world champions in 3 different weight classes of muay thai alone.One U.S. navy seal boxing champion, the world kick boxing champion from New Zealand.he has also defeated several Japanese Karate master's and korean master's in taekkwondo.His record on the world stage now is at 29-4 i do believe, despite this he has to be considered pound for pound 1 of the greatest fighters in your generation.His Chi is very powerful, sometimes his best defense is his offense.Regardless of his accomplishments he is a good man a great warrior and most of all one of the most respected fighters, fans are left in awe of his demonstations of Kung Fu.He remains humble and would be a world pay for view blocbuster.
I like the section where the master starts showing, the students didn't seem to have grasped the techniques or principles as deeply yet you could see it in their posture and in their techniques, but the master had very eloquent movement and technique with perfect posture which made the Tai Chi work more as it should
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the approach that this program takes in trying to learn. It seems to be an honest and diligent one limited only by the amount of time that you have to train. I wish you all of the luck in the world in your training Eric. I'm not sure what exactly you are looking for as everyone's journey and goals are different but I can definitely say that things are not always what they appear to be, people aren't always who they say they are and good teachers are hard to find. I spent 14 years in a fairly prestigious Martial Arts system, training several years under the senior student of the art. I left because of the way that he treated someone else that moved to my state to train with us there and it turned out that that person knew way more than our teacher. He left after I did and I started training under him and learned more in 1 year than I did in the previous 14 all put together. It wasn't that where I was at was bad, it just wasn't what I was looking for. And if you wonder what the person that I ended up training under was even doing there as a student in the first place, well the truth is that he couldn't even see himself for who or what he was. I had to talk him into teaching me, not because he didn't want to but rather because he felt he was not qualified. Everything changed after that and my journey has been the one that I have always wanted ever since then. Always keep an open mind and above all else always strive to see the truth, in others and in yourself.
I'm fed up reading things about inefficacity of martials arts. Real martial arts are more efficient than "combat sports" in the street, just for one thing : you don't learn to just "touch" your opponent to win the point, you learn how to destroy him, break his bones, organs...and not to stop your punch. Martial arts were created to fight in a war, with or witout weapon, not just to entertain people on tv and win trophies. And WELL TEACHED, it's not choregraphies but strenghening the body, mind, teaching reflexes in fights, good stance and balance and develop fighting spirit.
@@anhpham5816 MMA is also a sport. We would not know how it fares in a fight to the death. You might never even have a chance to do an arm bar or a rear naked choke on a Muay Thai boxer if you allow the latter to use his complete arsenal of attacks instead of restricting him with "You can't do this technique, and you are also not allowed to do that in the ring" Inside the ring, you are required to demonstrate sportsmanship, you score on points and win by executing a technique to KO your opponent or get a submission. In a no holds barred fight to the death, MMA is pretty much useless once you have had your eyes gouged out, limbs broken. TMA like Tai Chi were developed for the battlefield at a time when there were wars after wars in China. You learn weapons like the sword, broadsword, long pole...these are no longer the weapons of the present century. It's guns and ultimately the nuclear bomb...or perhaps bioweapons. Its Empty Hand techniques are however still useful for self defence, but those who learn its martial applications are few and far between. Most learn it for health maintenance and improvement.
To learn about Judaism you speak to a Rabbi. to learn this stuff you study it from the Masters. I learn this stuff from Mr Hung book Taichiquan very good book. Not easy to follow but very practical.in the book it show you the development of the different skills of Taichiquans by different masters. Taichi was I believe the last form but more simpler. Is very powerful and it can become very dangerous. It can also caused brain damage if the practitioner do it wrong. Their mastery is base how the body follows properly the yin and yang movement and how is apply to the apponent. No mystery just that.
Yes,the actual practice of ancient Thai Chi is a deathly Kung Fu which was normally not shown to public but only decent-ed from family...Whether it can be better then Thai boxing/western boxing is a matter of which levels of them we try to compare.
I have never seen a video about taijiquan that so clearly demonstrated application. Not only that, but application was the focus of this show. I was delighted to watch it, so thanks for posting it. :)
i love traditional martial arts. Tai Chi is full of amazing techniques. but in real combat, it's more to do with reflexes and strength, many of TaiChi techniques is has element of surprise, but when you are in a intense fight, you are not likely to have that room of opportunity, if toe to toe, a trained fighter's reflex and strength could top those Tai Chi techniques. But Tai Chi is still a deadly art, because if you want to kill or beat someone, you don't go toe to toe with the guy, you have the technique to break his wrist with one hand shake, it's almost like a sniper VS tank. Tank can destroy you like a fly, but when given the window of opportunity, all sniper needs is one shot. that's why you will never see those guys step into a ring.
+LOFT.YI Your logic is flawed in the sense that you assume taiji practitioners somehow have less reflex and strength than "trained fighters" The only person I've ever met in my life (and I've fought many opponents) that I know I don't have a single chance against in single combat (assuming we are both prepared for attack from the other) is my taiji master's master. He's incredibly powerful and fast, yet his grace, technique and precision are movie-worthy.
yet my assumption make sense, you saying you don't have chance against Taiji master, I believe you, but do you hold a chance against a world class champion fighter? look, I know the power of that art, and I respect it. but it is wrong when people push it too far and make it sounds invincible, same when those kids label MMA or BJJ invincible, it's wrong.
Actually I live in Las Vegas, and I don't throw names but I have trained with some of the most famous athletes out here and been completely unimpressed.
DeadXManXsXStare look man, I believe what you've said. just a suggestion, why not be the middle man and let those fighters try their luck with the Taiji master you know?
Although described above as a beginning student (in Chen Tai Chi?), Eric Couillard did not appear to be a total layman. From the fight, I believe he had learned some other martial art before. Notice that he could kick pretty high, and kick right? His facial expression gave me the impression that he was quite cynical, and not really believing that Chen Tai Chi "works" in a bare knuckle no holds barred street fight.
Please upload stuff like this ine english or with subtitles please. I am missing out on so many awesome foreign made martial arts documentaries becasue I cannot understand the chinese. Please help me!
getsmarthypnosis I noticed that after 2:30 into the video. Why do the subs start so late? we miss the whole intro. Anyone know that other kung fu series where the chinese guys travel all over their country searching out kung fu masters and they even did an episode in okinawa for karate? The 2nd season has no english. I wish someone would upload them in english.
It's not about which style you train, it's all about yourself. All the demo you see in real life or from videos are theory craft the PERFECT situation. Real fight gets ugly. Doesn't matter which art you practice, there's only one way learn to fight is by fighting. It's not Kung Fu master that fear of losing, it's because they know doesn't matter who win, some body will get hurt. I'm sure not only Kung Fu master but other true martial art master would do the same.
I like watching your videos about Real King Fu. I find that the three of you are honest and are not easily impressed but seek to find the truth for yourself. Much of what I see of Kung Fu is very disappointing to me in terms of real combat. It seems it's more for show rather than effective for real combat. I've yet to see any Kung Fu master that I feel can beat a Western or Thai boxer in a real fight. I hope to be proven wrong because I really do want to find a true Kung Fu Master that can fight for reals. When I hear that real Kung Fu Masters do not accept fighting challenges, it seems to me they are saying that more out of fear of being exposed as ineffective than for humility. Demonstrations of strength and forms do not impress me. Nor does theory. Proof of effectiveness of real combat is what I'm looking for and I'm glad that you guys are trying to seek that out instead of just being blindly impressed like so many other people are.
thanks for the thoughftul comment, charles. don't lose hope in kung fu masters! there's a famous chinese saying from lao zi (lao tzu) - those who say, don't know; and those who know, don't say. the most badass masters i've met are completely uninterested in publicity, and don't feel the need to prove themselves to anyone.
Eric Couillard "those who know, don't say", sure.. but also most who don't know don't say either, so not saying doesn't automatically raise you to some mythical stature. I'm tird of hearing those kind of excuses in defense of a fighting system that so far has not produced even one person whom I think can beat an accomplished western boxer like for example Pacquiao or Mike Tyson. If you put any kung fu master in an all out fight against an equally accomplished Thai Boxer, I'd place my bet on the Thai Boxer any day. I'd just like to see one Shaolin master or master of any kind of Kung Fu come out and show the world that Kung Fu is a for reals, and is a fighting system to be feared in real combat, and not just in theory. And no, breaking a bunch of bricks or poking a boards against your body doesn't make you a real fighter. Especially disappointing was watching those Wing Chung masters demonstrating their real combat. It was quite sad. Mike Tyson would have knocked them out cold with one punch and I think their slaps would have been worthless against a real fighter like him. I don't mean to sound disrespectful. I really would love to be proven wrong, but I'm a realist and I need proof, not theory. So please Eric, please continue to seek out some Real Kung Fu I can believe in! That would make me so happy if you would find a true master that can truly kick some serious ass. Even finding one or two real masters who can truly fight would help restore my lost faith in Kung Fu.
Charles Le Just stepping in here with my thoughts if that's okay. I don't believe that Eric was using the quote as an excuse rather than as an explanation. The fact is that 'Real' Martial Arts are just what the name should imply. It is an Art. I will grant that it is my belief that a lot of 'Martial Artists' do not practice it with that in mind but if they really want to reach the level that an Artist seeks to attain then looking at it and studying it with that view point in mind is extremely important. For the most part, in my opinion, a large percentage of the Martial World has become confused and have only further confused people that are not a part of it even further by accepting sport style combat into their Art as a means to test themselves and others at fighting. It should never be mistaken that a 'Sport Fight' and a 'Real Fight' are the same thing. They are absolutely not. This is a major reason why you will likely never see what you hope to see. Anyone with a real skill and understanding in Martial Arts should eventually discover that when you start using any kind of rule set in combat that you are going against what their Art actually is. The more rules that are applied, the further it gets away from the Art. What is a rule other than a limitation? A rule limits something. A true Art would not suffer limitations. (This is excluded for examples of something being practiced to achieve artistry within a defined rule set, such as becoming an Artist at Boxing. In that example you are already agreeing to working within the bounds of the rules of that sport. A Martial Art does not need these limitations.) Being a Martial Artist myself I can say that I would feel cofident at defending myself against someone like Mike Tyson, to use your example. But, if you were to ask me to get in the ring with him and fight him 'fairly' I would say that I am fairly confident that he would wipe the floor with me. I'm not a boxer and he has a lot of years on me at doing what he does. I believe there is a saying, "You don't box a boxer." Why would I? Now if what you are asking is for someone to put themselves out there and challenge a professional athlete to a fight where their is not any rules... I just don't think you are going to get that to happen. You are asking the boxer to step out of his world and fight against someone that has no limitation for what he can do. No rounds, no ref, no guarantee of safety. It would be likely that someone may get seriously injured or killed. I don't think there would be a lot of people that would be willing. On the flip side of that, the really accomplished Artists have only achieved what they have achieved because of a journey that led them right through the center of their very soul. You have to really go through a lot to become an Artist and that usually is only achieved by reaching a high level of maturity. Once you get there I have to say that you kind of just know it. You might be curious about how good you REALLY are but for the most part you know. You have to remove the part of yourself that lies to you. You have to learn to look at yourself honestly and see your strengths and short comings and eventually you reach a place where you can truly see yourself for exactly what you are and where you are. You can look at someone fight on a TV and visualize yourself and the movements that you would make and be able to give yourself an honest answer of whether that person would have beaten you or not if you would have been a part of that exchange in that moment. I know that might sound weird but really it is something that anyone can do if they learn what their body can do, how to read movement and distance and above all else, be able to be completely honest with themselves. That last part is the hardest of all because our minds are condition to lie to us. So, if you reach this level of maturity and know how good you are and what you can and can't do, the idea of 'proving yourself' actually becomes kind of insulting. Why should you? Who do you have to answer to? Who do you have to show? Further more, what do you even care about someone's approval? What do they know anyway? I understand that that might be a strange frame of mind to consider taking everything into account but I have to say I think very differently than I did in my earlier years of training. I'm only turning 34 this month and while a handful of people might consider that old, its fairly young in the scheme of things and also in a lot of other people's eyes. But, with me being the age that I am, I can say that that is already the way that I think. I have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone and further more I could care less what anyone thinks about my ability. In fact, most of the people that I interact with on a daily basis have no idea of what I know about how to defend myself. Honestly though, that's just the way I like it.
I've been studying Martial Arts for a while, I've looked all over NYC for a good master of the arts who's actually used it in combat. Eventually I found one as a Wing Chun master. He traveled the world to test and hone his skills. One of the most important advice he's given me is "when you know what you're doing, you don't want to do it any more." The reason being is that old martial arts was based on war, it was a killing art, people fought to the death with out rules. He's showed what kind of technique that meant, everything from eye gauges to throat punches without batting an eye. But who still fights like that? Even if you wanted to, would you be able to shoulder the consequences? I later picked up Chen Tai Chi, and was taught what each action meant, I would never use these moves on my worst enemies. One of the major problems I have with the "can you fight?" mentality, is does the person who asked that question really know what it means to fight? The ring is one thing, but to really fight, most people would just do major bodily harm, then what? For those who say they go and fight but they don't do any real harm, how good are you really? For those who do really fight and can do real harm, would you still continue? I'll give you an example, Ronda Rousey, can fight, won almost all her matches by breaking her opponent's arm. THAT is a fight. Outside the ring, that's assault. I can understand your frustration with people and their demonstrations that are planned or when people play along, but at the same time, is there a better way to do it without other getting harmed? The problem with showing real fights is what happens after the fight.
Charles Le Some of the higher level Chinese masters aren't thirsty for blood but rather civilized. Like Eric quoted Lao Tzu, many of these men train in Kung Fu but it's also a spiritual path. If Tyson and a higher level practioner met there would be blood and death. No one wins there. And what would an outsider learn from that? It's usually not until we're old and grey that we start looking at life through the right lens.
this reminds me slightly of the british tv [comedy] programme Idiot Abroad. the white suit crowns the ignorance as it is normally reserved for masters. whenever i visited the Far East i always admired [any] masters of [any] arts how patient they were with inexperienced or ignorant westerners and know-it-alls. most of my far-eastern friends, Chinese especially are very kind and generous people. we should be grateful for their patience as we have a lot to learn from those cultures.....
As a Chinese, I dislike this series. It is over-scripted, over-directed, badly acted. Oh, the masters are authentic and by and large impressive, but the series' style of presentation is juvenile and preachy and awfully didactic. Still,it's a treat to see these real masters in action.
Aiya wat so great about tis so called kunfu , just two kids fighting each other lah if u r good in kunfu no body should know about it in the first place dont show off to others
Loved watching this show. I never really heard about any Kung Fu aside from Shaolin that you hear about in movies, until I was playing Shenmue 2. I wonder though, are there any shows like this that go around the world looking at all kinds of martial arts?
7:00 he grabs the guy's leg and pulls it. The guy falls over. Not very mysterious. The mysterious part is how the guy finds that surprising. How do you trick people into not noticing that they are pulling your leg?
Haha ... you can not pull the leg if one has his full weight on the leg. Conclusion: he did not fall because the leg was pulled. Hint: look where the shoulder of the guy to the right went :D If you look carefully in slow motion you see: he was throwing him with a shoulder push above the hip, and pulled the leg AFTERWARDS to finalize the throw.
Thankyou for your upload, when watching the king fu expert talk and show his fajing he looked powerful but when it came to fighting he was out of breath quick and never really attacked the master or guy. The westerner Eric was terrible at fighting, really made us westerners lose face but hey this is the game you have to play in China, Lord forbid you make the master lose face. The scene where the westerner was doing Tui Shou or some kind of squatting with one guy he was easily thrown, ok fair enough, the reason he didnt do it to the kung fu expert is not cause he sensed and could not be thrown, its cause he would lose face, in my opinion. The kung fu expert seems a nice enough guy, so does Eric BUT they AND the old master and the 2 masters would be beaten in a real fight against a mean bastard, Eric is so soft and tender and lovely, how the heck could be any match, the kung fu expert does show some skill BUT in a fight against a hard bastard he would be knocked out, Im not disrespecting any of these guys directly, but I'll speak up for anybody disrespecting my religion, i.e. TRUTH, the truth is they are not unbeatable, they can be beaten easily and nt by any beautiful art, this is truth, beauty vs the beast, most opt for the romantic notion but in the real world these guys techniques will not save them or their students. Nice video though.
Is that Wang Hai Jun observing the outdoor class? A lot of this seems brutish and unrefined with big investments in movement that a kung fu matador would use to their advantage.
No real kungfu master really care u believe kungfu can fight or not. Thats the spirt of chinese kungfu and culture. and please don't compare a taiji master with mike tyson dude, they have different Pursuit.
I wonder if there's a secret Technique called " Iron Legs " the Shaolin Monastery is hiding from us ? Where a master can be thrown off a 10 storey building and survive the fall without breaking a bone :)
There is. The technique is supposed to be a secret but some movie production technician leaked it out, and now we know that the master had a cable tied to his body when he fell.
Here they show real tai chi chuan, but in the episode about the yang style, we only saw bullshit. It's sad because yang is a very serious and powerful style.
the difference between chinese martial arts and japanese martial arts is that chinese martial arts were invented for rehearsed dancing and exercise while japanese practitioners turned them into fighting arts.hence karate, juijitsu, aikido, judo.....bottomline is, if you want to learn fighting or just self defence, learn japanese martial arts or muay thai, brazilian juijitsu, krav maga...or if u want to become an entertainer, learnn chinese kung fu..
Kung fu students are so strange... this Eric guy still moves like a baby gazelle after years of training. Not a great advert I'm afraid. The masters move well, but why spend 20 years to attain a basic level of combat competence when you could study boxing/BJJ/catch wrestling and get there in 2 years? (Wouldn't hurt to lift weights and follow a decent diet, again looking at Eric here.) Seems like kung fu, especially as practised in the west, is typically an accessory to some kind of hippy/geek identity rather than a serious branch of martial arts study.
with no disrespect, non of this kung fu style is going to work on a street fight. boxing and grappling and jujitsu is considered combat style for one and one fight.
this is clearly a propaganda fillm. i dont believe any of the so hired "oponents" are not performers or his disciples fallen over at touch of their master. this is obviously a propaganda film.
Philo Sophia Your nick name is Greek. Means Philosophy.... and philosophy starts from Ancient Greece, please write me in Greek.... At least you understand what i'm saying! ;)
Youre not a fighter. Bullshido has a lot of you internet geeks full of yourselves. If you think you can assess a style by looking at a t.v. show designed to give a cursory view as opposed to actually FIGHTING someone skilled in the art...then you have just exposed your pink panties for all the real warriors to see. Every video I see you assholes mouthing off...knowing you dont fucking fight. A real fighter knows not to take shit for granted. A real fighter knows its not about the style...its about who is using it and in what situation. You are "rediculous"
Ben Real I'm talking from my TV experience, cause i've no idea about fight... i never fight... i was waiting from you to show me the way teacher Vanderlei Silva.....
mm another bogus promotional tai chi video by the chamber of commerce or something similar....wasted my time once again.. the comments are mostly pre rehearsed by others without understanding of martial arts...too funny
I am a taichi practicioner of Yang Style (Yang Jwing Ming) and this was very interesting to see Master Xian demonstrate. I think we get too worried about who can beat who, or is this useful against this style or that as the underlying principles that are called on in an instant are what matters. However my point is that people often say that the true secrets of Taichi or Kung Fu have been lost but I would say that means there is opportunity for those who wish to study, learn and create new knowledge to rival the past glory. If we spent more time doing, than arguing over who is stronger, tougher etc and pursue knowledge the benefits to the art, ourselves and society may be more than we could imagine! Peace, knowledge and the search for truth in all its beauty!!
+Four Owls Just following through on my own post, as I have since 'converted' to Chen taiji, the graceful, more martial and original form of Taiji. Chen is a lifetime study but Yang was a great introduction and stepping stone to this amazing art.
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@@TheStrataminor The Yang style was created by Yang Luchan, but over the generations, it had undergone quite a fair amount of changes, most notably the removal of "fa jing" in its movements. Yang Chengfu, a descendant of Yang Luchan, also changed the movements to "large circles" performed only at a slow pace, without alternating between fast and slow which is a Yin and Yang concept retained in the Chen style.
Yang Jwing Ming happens to have the same surname "Yang", which is a pretty common surname in China. He is not the creator of the Yang style, which your inserting his name in parenthesis seemed to suggest.
Chen is shaolin quan. The taiji secret is not lost but only few can achieved and it is in the open. But people are not able to grasped it. Essence of taijiquan is " use Yi/Mind, not Li/brute strength ". Yin/Yang outside is External MA. Yin/Yang express inside is Internal MA.
Yi Long, Shaolin monk warrior defeated 3 world champions in 3 different weight classes of muay thai alone.One U.S. navy seal boxing champion, the world kick boxing champion from New Zealand.he has also defeated several Japanese Karate master's and korean master's in taekkwondo.His record on the world stage now is at 29-4 i do believe, despite this he has to be considered pound for pound 1 of the greatest fighters in your generation.His Chi is very powerful, sometimes his best defense is his offense.Regardless of his accomplishments he is a good man a great warrior and most of all one of the most respected fighters, fans are left in awe of his demonstations of Kung Fu.He remains humble and would be a world pay for view blocbuster.
I like the section where the master starts showing, the students didn't seem to have grasped the techniques or principles as deeply yet you could see it in their posture and in their techniques, but the master had very eloquent movement and technique with perfect posture which made the Tai Chi work more as it should
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the approach that this program takes in trying to learn. It seems to be an honest and diligent one limited only by the amount of time that you have to train.
I wish you all of the luck in the world in your training Eric. I'm not sure what exactly you are looking for as everyone's journey and goals are different but I can definitely say that things are not always what they appear to be, people aren't always who they say they are and good teachers are hard to find.
I spent 14 years in a fairly prestigious Martial Arts system, training several years under the senior student of the art. I left because of the way that he treated someone else that moved to my state to train with us there and it turned out that that person knew way more than our teacher. He left after I did and I started training under him and learned more in 1 year than I did in the previous 14 all put together.
It wasn't that where I was at was bad, it just wasn't what I was looking for. And if you wonder what the person that I ended up training under was even doing there as a student in the first place, well the truth is that he couldn't even see himself for who or what he was. I had to talk him into teaching me, not because he didn't want to but rather because he felt he was not qualified. Everything changed after that and my journey has been the one that I have always wanted ever since then.
Always keep an open mind and above all else always strive to see the truth, in others and in yourself.
who is the sifu that u ended up training under?
& what martial arts system do u train?
One day I will surely learn Tai chi and keep up your good work bro, I love Chinese music
I'm fed up reading things about inefficacity of martials arts. Real martial arts are more efficient than "combat sports" in the street, just for one thing : you don't learn to just "touch" your opponent to win the point, you learn how to destroy him, break his bones, organs...and not to stop your punch. Martial arts were created to fight in a war, with or witout weapon, not just to entertain people on tv and win trophies. And WELL TEACHED, it's not choregraphies but strenghening the body, mind, teaching reflexes in fights, good stance and balance and develop fighting spirit.
Have you watched MMA?
@@anhpham5816 MMA is also a sport. We would not know how it fares in a fight to the death. You might never even have a chance to do an arm bar or a rear naked choke on a Muay Thai boxer if you allow the latter to use his complete arsenal of attacks instead of restricting him with "You can't do this technique, and you are also not allowed to do that in the ring"
Inside the ring, you are required to demonstrate sportsmanship, you score on points and win by executing a technique to KO your opponent or get a submission. In a no holds barred fight to the death, MMA is pretty much useless once you have had your eyes gouged out, limbs broken.
TMA like Tai Chi were developed for the battlefield at a time when there were wars after wars in China. You learn weapons like the sword, broadsword, long pole...these are no longer the weapons of the present century. It's guns and ultimately the nuclear bomb...or perhaps bioweapons. Its Empty Hand techniques are however still useful for self defence, but those who learn its martial applications are few and far between. Most learn it for health maintenance and improvement.
To learn about Judaism you speak to a Rabbi. to learn this stuff you study it from the Masters. I learn this stuff from Mr Hung book Taichiquan very good book. Not easy to follow but very practical.in the book it show you the development of the different skills of Taichiquans by different masters. Taichi was I believe the last form but more simpler. Is very powerful and it can become very dangerous. It can also caused brain damage if the practitioner do it wrong. Their mastery is base how the body follows properly the yin and yang movement and how is apply to the apponent. No mystery just that.
Why are there no martial artists at top of combat sports then?
Yes,the actual practice of ancient Thai Chi is a deathly Kung Fu which was normally not shown to public but only decent-ed from family...Whether it can be better then Thai boxing/western boxing is a matter of which levels of them we try to compare.
I have never seen a video about taijiquan that so clearly demonstrated application. Not only that, but application was the focus of this show. I was delighted to watch it, so thanks for posting it. :)
I believe the movement that took the guys down when they held his hand / wrist is most likely "lazy about untying coat" from the original Chen Style
I really enjoyed this show, thanks for the upload!
i love traditional martial arts.
Tai Chi is full of amazing techniques.
but in real combat, it's more to do with reflexes and strength, many of TaiChi techniques is has element of surprise, but when you are in a intense fight, you are not likely to have that room of opportunity, if toe to toe, a trained fighter's reflex and strength could top those Tai Chi techniques.
But Tai Chi is still a deadly art, because if you want to kill or beat someone, you don't go toe to toe with the guy, you have the technique to break his wrist with one hand shake, it's almost like a sniper VS tank. Tank can destroy you like a fly, but when given the window of opportunity, all sniper needs is one shot. that's why you will never see those guys step into a ring.
Taiji uses the whole body and qi for strength, and there is nothing stronger.
+LOFT.YI Your logic is flawed in the sense that you assume taiji practitioners somehow have less reflex and strength than "trained fighters"
The only person I've ever met in my life (and I've fought many opponents) that I know I don't have a single chance against in single combat (assuming we are both prepared for attack from the other) is my taiji master's master. He's incredibly powerful and fast, yet his grace, technique and precision are movie-worthy.
yet my assumption make sense, you saying you don't have chance against Taiji master, I believe you, but do you hold a chance against a world class champion fighter?
look, I know the power of that art, and I respect it. but it is wrong when people push it too far and make it sounds invincible, same when those kids label MMA or BJJ invincible, it's wrong.
Actually I live in Las Vegas, and I don't throw names but I have trained with some of the most famous athletes out here and been completely unimpressed.
DeadXManXsXStare look man, I believe what you've said. just a suggestion, why not be the middle man and let those fighters try their luck with the Taiji master you know?
Great video. I appreciate the insight shown with Chen Taiji. Thank you for posting.
@1447 dont look away.keep the opponent in the baseball baters box and use the invisible rectangular strike zone . as a guide to aim with
i am practicing bajiquan now,and i do plan to take up chen style taijiquan in the future
Although described above as a beginning student (in Chen Tai Chi?), Eric Couillard did not appear to be a total layman. From the fight, I believe he had learned some other martial art before. Notice that he could kick pretty high, and kick right? His facial expression gave me the impression that he was quite cynical, and not really believing that Chen Tai Chi "works" in a bare knuckle no holds barred street fight.
Tai chi chuan is most effective chinese martial art with his grappling skills
i just watched the new taichi segment a last week. do you have a link to that video? thanks
why is there always some white guy with long hair lol
Actually as far as I know tai chi doesn't rely on powerfulness but reflecting its to the other
Please upload stuff like this ine english or with subtitles please. I am missing out on so many awesome foreign made martial arts documentaries becasue I cannot understand the chinese. Please help me!
It has subtitles
getsmarthypnosis I noticed that after 2:30 into the video. Why do the subs start so late? we miss the whole intro.
Anyone know that other kung fu series where the chinese guys travel all over their country searching out kung fu masters and they even did an episode in okinawa for karate? The 2nd season has no english. I wish someone would upload them in english.
MaharlikaAWA
I can read subs right away
Charles Watson
So that brings you to a total size of 3 inches! Good job dood!
MaharlikaAWA It's called Kung Fu Quest. User Minmin Chan has both seasons subbed in English.
It's not about which style you train, it's all about yourself. All the demo you see in real life or from videos are theory craft the PERFECT situation. Real fight gets ugly. Doesn't matter which art you practice, there's only one way learn to fight is by fighting. It's not Kung Fu master that fear of losing, it's because they know doesn't matter who win, some body will get hurt. I'm sure not only Kung Fu master but other true martial art master would do the same.
我们中国切磋是讲究点到为止，但老外是不懂切磋，老外理解的切磋就是比赛要分出胜负。所以，和老外切磋要让老外真正体验到，虽不能打残，但最起码要让老外受点轻伤……体会才深刻，才会心服口服
No. u don't understand chinese culture,but Mao is good at it.
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I like watching your videos about Real King Fu. I find that the three of you are honest and are not easily impressed but seek to find the truth for yourself. Much of what I see of Kung Fu is very disappointing to me in terms of real combat. It seems it's more for show rather than effective for real combat. I've yet to see any Kung Fu master that I feel can beat a Western or Thai boxer in a real fight. I hope to be proven wrong because I really do want to find a true Kung Fu Master that can fight for reals. When I hear that real Kung Fu Masters do not accept fighting challenges, it seems to me they are saying that more out of fear of being exposed as ineffective than for humility. Demonstrations of strength and forms do not impress me. Nor does theory. Proof of effectiveness of real combat is what I'm looking for and I'm glad that you guys are trying to seek that out instead of just being blindly impressed like so many other people are.
thanks for the thoughftul comment, charles. don't lose hope in kung fu masters! there's a famous chinese saying from lao zi (lao tzu) - those who say, don't know; and those who know, don't say. the most badass masters i've met are completely uninterested in publicity, and don't feel the need to prove themselves to anyone.
Eric Couillard "those who know, don't say", sure.. but also most who don't know don't say either, so not saying doesn't automatically raise you to some mythical stature. I'm tird of hearing those kind of excuses in defense of a fighting system that so far has not produced even one person whom I think can beat an accomplished western boxer like for example Pacquiao or Mike Tyson. If you put any kung fu master in an all out fight against an equally accomplished Thai Boxer, I'd place my bet on the Thai Boxer any day. I'd just like to see one Shaolin master or master of any kind of Kung Fu come out and show the world that Kung Fu is a for reals, and is a fighting system to be feared in real combat, and not just in theory. And no, breaking a bunch of bricks or poking a boards against your body doesn't make you a real fighter. Especially disappointing was watching those Wing Chung masters demonstrating their real combat. It was quite sad. Mike Tyson would have knocked them out cold with one punch and I think their slaps would have been worthless against a real fighter like him. I don't mean to sound disrespectful. I really would love to be proven wrong, but I'm a realist and I need proof, not theory. So please Eric, please continue to seek out some Real Kung Fu I can believe in! That would make me so happy if you would find a true master that can truly kick some serious ass. Even finding one or two real masters who can truly fight would help restore my lost faith in Kung Fu.
Charles Le Just stepping in here with my thoughts if that's okay. I don't believe that Eric was using the quote as an excuse rather than as an explanation.
The fact is that 'Real' Martial Arts are just what the name should imply. It is an Art. I will grant that it is my belief that a lot of 'Martial Artists' do not practice it with that in mind but if they really want to reach the level that an Artist seeks to attain then looking at it and studying it with that view point in mind is extremely important.
For the most part, in my opinion, a large percentage of the Martial World has become confused and have only further confused people that are not a part of it even further by accepting sport style combat into their Art as a means to test themselves and others at fighting. It should never be mistaken that a 'Sport Fight' and a 'Real Fight' are the same thing. They are absolutely not. This is a major reason why you will likely never see what you hope to see.
Anyone with a real skill and understanding in Martial Arts should eventually discover that when you start using any kind of rule set in combat that you are going against what their Art actually is. The more rules that are applied, the further it gets away from the Art. What is a rule other than a limitation? A rule limits something. A true Art would not suffer limitations. (This is excluded for examples of something being practiced to achieve artistry within a defined rule set, such as becoming an Artist at Boxing. In that example you are already agreeing to working within the bounds of the rules of that sport. A Martial Art does not need these limitations.)
Being a Martial Artist myself I can say that I would feel cofident at defending myself against someone like Mike Tyson, to use your example. But, if you were to ask me to get in the ring with him and fight him 'fairly' I would say that I am fairly confident that he would wipe the floor with me. I'm not a boxer and he has a lot of years on me at doing what he does. I believe there is a saying, "You don't box a boxer." Why would I?
Now if what you are asking is for someone to put themselves out there and challenge a professional athlete to a fight where their is not any rules... I just don't think you are going to get that to happen. You are asking the boxer to step out of his world and fight against someone that has no limitation for what he can do. No rounds, no ref, no guarantee of safety. It would be likely that someone may get seriously injured or killed. I don't think there would be a lot of people that would be willing. On the flip side of that, the really accomplished Artists have only achieved what they have achieved because of a journey that led them right through the center of their very soul.
You have to really go through a lot to become an Artist and that usually is only achieved by reaching a high level of maturity. Once you get there I have to say that you kind of just know it. You might be curious about how good you REALLY are but for the most part you know.
You have to remove the part of yourself that lies to you. You have to learn to look at yourself honestly and see your strengths and short comings and eventually you reach a place where you can truly see yourself for exactly what you are and where you are. You can look at someone fight on a TV and visualize yourself and the movements that you would make and be able to give yourself an honest answer of whether that person would have beaten you or not if you would have been a part of that exchange in that moment.
I know that might sound weird but really it is something that anyone can do if they learn what their body can do, how to read movement and distance and above all else, be able to be completely honest with themselves. That last part is the hardest of all because our minds are condition to lie to us.
So, if you reach this level of maturity and know how good you are and what you can and can't do, the idea of 'proving yourself' actually becomes kind of insulting. Why should you? Who do you have to answer to? Who do you have to show? Further more, what do you even care about someone's approval? What do they know anyway?
I understand that that might be a strange frame of mind to consider taking everything into account but I have to say I think very differently than I did in my earlier years of training. I'm only turning 34 this month and while a handful of people might consider that old, its fairly young in the scheme of things and also in a lot of other people's eyes. But, with me being the age that I am, I can say that that is already the way that I think. I have absolutely nothing to prove to anyone and further more I could care less what anyone thinks about my ability. In fact, most of the people that I interact with on a daily basis have no idea of what I know about how to defend myself. Honestly though, that's just the way I like it.
I've been studying Martial Arts for a while, I've looked all over NYC for a good master of the arts who's actually used it in combat. Eventually I found one as a Wing Chun master. He traveled the world to test and hone his skills. One of the most important advice he's given me is "when you know what you're doing, you don't want to do it any more." The reason being is that old martial arts was based on war, it was a killing art, people fought to the death with out rules. He's showed what kind of technique that meant, everything from eye gauges to throat punches without batting an eye. But who still fights like that? Even if you wanted to, would you be able to shoulder the consequences? I later picked up Chen Tai Chi, and was taught what each action meant, I would never use these moves on my worst enemies.
One of the major problems I have with the "can you fight?" mentality, is does the person who asked that question really know what it means to fight? The ring is one thing, but to really fight, most people would just do major bodily harm, then what? For those who say they go and fight but they don't do any real harm, how good are you really? For those who do really fight and can do real harm, would you still continue? I'll give you an example, Ronda Rousey, can fight, won almost all her matches by breaking her opponent's arm. THAT is a fight. Outside the ring, that's assault.
I can understand your frustration with people and their demonstrations that are planned or when people play along, but at the same time, is there a better way to do it without other getting harmed? The problem with showing real fights is what happens after the fight.
Charles Le Some of the higher level Chinese masters aren't thirsty for blood but rather civilized. Like Eric quoted Lao Tzu, many of these men train in Kung Fu but it's also a spiritual path. If Tyson and a higher level practioner met there would be blood and death. No one wins there. And what would an outsider learn from that? It's usually not until we're old and grey that we start looking at life through the right lens.
We might be fucked, sir.
this reminds me slightly of the british tv [comedy] programme Idiot Abroad. the white suit crowns the ignorance as it is normally reserved for masters.
whenever i visited the Far East i always admired [any] masters of [any] arts how patient they were with inexperienced or ignorant westerners and know-it-alls. most of my far-eastern friends, Chinese especially are very kind and generous people. we should be grateful for their patience as we have a lot to learn from those cultures.....
Charles Le, I recommend you to search up and watch 安剑秋。 This kind of external martial art will definitely satisfy you.
Eric 师兄好
As a Chinese, I dislike this series. It is over-scripted, over-directed, badly acted. Oh, the masters are authentic and by and large impressive, but the series' style of presentation is juvenile and preachy and awfully didactic.
Still,it's a treat to see these real masters in action.
中国主流媒體不可信。马桶台拍陈小旺的视頻公然造假就是明证
Aiya wat so great about tis so called kunfu , just two kids fighting each other lah if u r good in kunfu no body should know about it in the first place dont show off to others
Very interesting... even if the English subtitles go very fast for me :-)
Thank you.
I'd like to see Chinese mma fighter Mad Dog welcomed to a challenge there.
Loved watching this show. I never really heard about any Kung Fu aside from Shaolin that you hear about in movies, until I was playing Shenmue 2. I wonder though, are there any shows like this that go around the world looking at all kinds of martial arts?
+TotemoGaijin Fight Quest is kinda like that.
from DETROIT & Ann Arbor Michigan.excellent......SUBSCRIBED..thx
do any of these masters have a chance against an MMA fighter?
they don't stand a chance against a 1 stripe BJJ white belt
An MMA fighter has a chance if one of those masters uses a sable? Martial art is not only about brute force.
obrigada pela excelente partilha (portugal)
excelente... grato pela partilha ;-)
Eric, buddy, let's talk about those glasses.
that was awesome. Master Wang is the man
Very good movie. Don't give up.
Thanks for sharing! Have an awesome day!
You think that these gentlemen can beat Bukahaw, the great Muay Thai fighter, I mean, so far I don't see anything serious in that video.
I really expecting the crew with the protection is vomiting blood or knocked unconcious after the punch but it turns out not to be the case
7:00 he grabs the guy's leg and pulls it. The guy falls over. Not very mysterious. The mysterious part is how the guy finds that surprising. How do you trick people into not noticing that they are pulling your leg?
Haha ... you can not pull the leg if one has his full weight on the leg. Conclusion: he did not fall because the leg was pulled. Hint: look where the shoulder of the guy to the right went :D If you look carefully in slow motion you see: he was throwing him with a shoulder push above the hip, and pulled the leg AFTERWARDS to finalize the throw.
Thankyou for your upload, when watching the king fu expert talk and show his fajing he looked powerful but when it came to fighting he was out of breath quick and never really attacked the master or guy.
The westerner Eric was terrible at fighting, really made us westerners lose face but hey this is the game you have to play in China, Lord forbid you make the master lose face.
The scene where the westerner was doing Tui Shou or some kind of squatting with one guy he was easily thrown, ok fair enough, the reason he didnt do it to the kung fu expert is not cause he sensed and could not be thrown, its cause he would lose face, in my opinion.
The kung fu expert seems a nice enough guy, so does Eric BUT they AND the old master and the 2 masters would be beaten in a real fight against a mean bastard, Eric is so soft and tender and lovely, how the heck could be any match, the kung fu expert does show some skill BUT in a fight against a hard bastard he would be knocked out, Im not disrespecting any of these guys directly, but I'll speak up for anybody disrespecting my religion, i.e. TRUTH, the truth is they are not unbeatable, they can be beaten easily and nt by any beautiful art, this is truth, beauty vs the beast, most opt for the romantic notion but in the real world these guys techniques will not save them or their students.
Nice video though.
"Eric doesn't know how to strike"
great stuff!
great vid. thanx for sharing.
Is that Wang Hai Jun observing the outdoor class? A lot of this seems brutish and unrefined with big investments in movement that a kung fu matador would use to their advantage.
I'd like to add...
The subtitles are helpful but don't stay on screen long enough to read AND watch. Also, the translation is poor in places.
Impressive, so Eric did u learn a lot from your trip to China?
thanks! of course, i'm still learning new things every day
Eric Couillard That's nice, keep your technique sharp! I'm also learning Kung Fu. I'm from Beijing and I'm studying in LA now.
+Eric Couillard uknow China works by a communist party and cctv always hiding the truth
lol
No real kungfu master really care u believe kungfu can fight or not. Thats the spirt of chinese kungfu and culture. and please don't compare a taiji master with mike tyson dude, they have different Pursuit.
I wonder if there's a secret Technique called " Iron Legs " the Shaolin Monastery is hiding from us ? Where a master can be thrown off a 10 storey building and survive the fall without breaking a bone :)
There is.
The technique is supposed to be a secret but some movie production technician leaked it out, and now we know that the master had a cable tied to his body when he fell.
One is for sure Eric is very BAD in JKD. Bruce Lee would cry when watching his JKD.
Very good.
But brick not hit back.
:)
muy bueno
eric gimme english sub will ya...
translation is aweful
so cool
Thai music
The grandmaster still didn't show them anything 'really good stuff', only 'small things' like Qinna.
This surprises you? That a grandmaster would show a TV show advanced moves so that people at home could try them out?
In taiji they are so slow that u give up
Here they show real tai chi chuan, but in the episode about the yang style, we only saw bullshit. It's sad because yang is a very serious and powerful style.
Ahahaha je m'abonne rien que pour le nom du gars de la chaîne
this is why tai chi is so dominant if UFC ...
I would like to see a praticioner Tai Chi fighting against some body MMA !!!!!!
Márcio Duque oh shut up stupid fool
the difference between chinese martial arts and japanese martial arts is that chinese martial arts were invented for rehearsed dancing and exercise while japanese practitioners turned them into fighting arts.hence karate, juijitsu, aikido, judo.....bottomline is, if you want to learn fighting or just self defence, learn japanese martial arts or muay thai, brazilian juijitsu, krav maga...or if u want to become an entertainer, learnn chinese kung fu..
moron
nice troll haha
This comment is ignorant.
you barely recognized the source of martial arts and how dare u be so sure about the feasibility?
southernsales7777777
He's not trolling. That is a pretty good summation
*bows to Shifu* AMITUOFO, XIE~XIE~NI, & WO~AI~NI MY GRRREAT NEW FRIEND!!! ;) :P
Falcatrua
chen is not taijijiquan
haha this is the most ignorant comment i've read in awhile. you do realize Chen Village is the birthplace of Taiji don't you?
王师傅毕竟是四大金刚之一...
buenazo xd !!
练过太极的肯定比没有训练过的厉害～哪怕是强壮的人，但是，我相信练习5年散打或者泰拳的绝对可以碾轧，或者秒杀练习5年太极拳的～～太极拳更适合老年人锻炼身体
1年内的情况，散打泰拳有优势，3年以后的太极武者，只要练的对，不吃亏。
还是要多了解一下，你看评论里外国人都觉得太极很有益处。 很多年后功夫怕是要去外面学了。我本身是学陈拳的，你要是有兴趣我可以给你推荐资料。
同样练5年的泰拳或者散打的轻轻松松碾压练5年太极的。但是练10年散打的绝对摆不平练10年太极的。
太极，形意，八卦都属内家拳，爆发力来自于丹田气海。练习内家拳的没有个十年八年的出不了功夫。练当年杨无敌 杨露禅还在陈家沟学艺10多年才学有所成。
Charles Mo 哥们儿是拜的师学艺吗？
李昊远 是的，这几天会去温县。
Kung fu students are so strange... this Eric guy still moves like a baby gazelle after years of training. Not a great advert I'm afraid. The masters move well, but why spend 20 years to attain a basic level of combat competence when you could study boxing/BJJ/catch wrestling and get there in 2 years? (Wouldn't hurt to lift weights and follow a decent diet, again looking at Eric here.)
Seems like kung fu, especially as practised in the west, is typically an accessory to some kind of hippy/geek identity rather than a serious branch of martial arts study.
Chris that's also the case with most "traditional " martial arts. Some of the shit they re supposed to teach u is simply impossible
來了個徐曉東破神話
只要碰到會中國功夫而體格適當的對手徐曉東沒什麼，打老人的拳手出了名，世界角落的人皆知道。
with no disrespect, non of this kung fu style is going to work on a street fight. boxing and grappling and jujitsu is considered combat style for one and one fight.
wing chun, choy lee fut and sanshou boxing are for modern world. you talk bullshit
rumel siddiqu oh shut up haha
that guy did a single leg with his head on the outside... if you wanna copy from wrestling at least do it right
taiji is extremely boring but powerful
Chi was brought to China from India by Damu. Its called Prana in Sanskrit.
India was founded by English
一个能打的都没有。
假的假的假的？
+Truth Guy just states straight out "I could rip a 60 year old kung-fu master in half"
this is clearly a propaganda fillm. i dont believe any of the so hired "oponents" are not performers or his disciples fallen over at touch of their master. this is obviously a propaganda film.
look up Xu Xiaodong a mma fighter he has taken on over 100 of these so called masters- and its hilarious
講那麼多實戰哪一點看出太極套路招式，，打出來的還不是自由搏擊，，太極花拳繡腿不承認實戰卻是自由搏擊丟臉
eric isn't even a good boxer. why would I take kung fu from a lao wai anyway.
+Mik Sivac Would you ever consider learning physics, mathematics, chemistry, or biology from an Asian, since these were Western sciences?
🤮🤮🤮🤮
damn how does that guy think he is a master -_-
so fake...
so fake
This is a joke!!
Leave it and just begin boxing and grapling this thing is rediculous....
Your spelling is ridiculous.
Philo Sophia Your nick name is Greek. Means Philosophy.... and philosophy starts from Ancient Greece, please write me in Greek.... At least you understand what i'm saying! ;)
Youre not a fighter. Bullshido has a lot of you internet geeks full of yourselves. If you think you can assess a style by looking at a t.v. show designed to give a cursory view as opposed to actually FIGHTING someone skilled in the art...then you have just exposed your pink panties for all the real warriors to see. Every video I see you assholes mouthing off...knowing you dont fucking fight. A real fighter knows not to take shit for granted. A real fighter knows its not about the style...its about who is using it and in what situation. You are "rediculous"
Ben Real I'm talking from my TV experience, cause i've no idea about fight... i never fight... i was waiting from you to show me the way teacher Vanderlei Silva.....
Come to Indianapolis and I will
mm another bogus promotional tai chi video by the chamber of commerce or something similar....wasted my time once again.. the comments are mostly pre rehearsed by others without understanding of martial arts...too funny
Bull fight
講那麼多實戰哪一點看出太極套路招式，，打出來的還不是自由搏擊，，太極花拳繡腿不承認實戰卻是自由搏擊丟臉
你电影看多了，真用起来谁没事在那里摆pose，瞅着空当就打。内家拳的精髓在于发力，发整劲，练的是功夫又不是招式的外形。不是行家里手，人家用了什么招你也看不出来。真正的武术打起来是不好看的。