I learned a fantastic way to use the FabFilter Pro-L2 as a very transparent clipper. I saved it as a preset, so I will have to find the video I learned it from to explain the settings.
I felt like I really needed a clipper. I have two. Sir and IK clippers. It was a short romance. I find they sound extremely saturated to the extent of crunch. I think I often use things out of habit now and I use both clippers and limiters to squeeze about a half dB each and I can't even hear the difference. I was always taught if you can't hear it you shouldn't be doing it and yet I still do this with clippers and limiters. Sometimes it can really bring things forward but to do it enough to achieve this pushing upfront, it causes a lot of artifacts. Wouldn't be the end of the world to lose a clipper and limiter altogether. Not essential tools to me. I do loud EDM too. I just think this use of clippers and limiters is usually compensating for a balls up in the mix. When I reach for the peak choppers, I always question why I have got to that point. As in 'I've made a hash of things somewhere'.
Most of the times I prefer AirWindows ClipOnly2 or ADclip7, which for me sounds better than Pro-L2. Actualy these clipers for me sounds cleaner in a musical way than this and other limiters. I mean, while it may adding some edge to the sound it manages dynamic more naturaly for my ears. But with these clipers you should be careful to not to push it too hard. If you need to squish dynamic hard, AirWindows NC-17 is better tool, but it sounds smoother.
when mastering, i use a clipper usually just to chop off transients and add some excitement in the process to them, and then i use a clean true peak limiter (smart:limit by sonible) to get some of the final loudness out of the music
Warren has answered this before. He says not to use a limiter, or more than the tiniest bit of compression on the mix bus, because if you boost a frequency, or cut a frequency while mixing, the limiter or compressor, will just even it out again. So you need to finish the mix, before adding them. Other people have different ideas about it, but that's what Warren said in a previous video. He may wish to comment further, but that's my take on what he's said in the past. 🙂
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn I've seen 'top down' mixing where they put a touch of glue compression (maybe -2db at most) and a bit of limiting on the mix bus. I guess it all comes down to taste.
@@RolandDeschain1 Oh for sure, I'm just repeating what Warren has said before, as he may not get time to answer. He did say something like "maybe a tiny bit of compression to glue the mix". Personally, I don't mix into a limiter or compressor, but I do put some on when I export the mix at the end of the session, so I can check it on a range of systems before I work on it again. Sometimes, I find that the limiter has brought up a ring or a honk that wasn't a problem before, on a snare perhaps, just in a certain part of the song, so sometimes I think mixing into some light limiting or compression might be a good idea, but as a rule, I don't do it. I think mix without, check with. It really depends if you are going to give the mix to someone else to master, or are adding limiting and compression on the mix bus as a form of mastering. There really is no right or wrong, if it works, it works! 🙂👍
The ‘Top Down’ mixing is done by people who have templates in place. Not just starting off with multiple things in their Masterbus. They have bussing going on on everything so by the time it hits the Masterbus there is only gentle compression, EQ and limiting.
In what ways have you found a Clipper Or Limiter used best in your music productions?
I use a clipper when I cut my nails, it makes me mix faster 😂😂😂😂
I learned a fantastic way to use the FabFilter Pro-L2 as a very transparent clipper. I saved it as a preset, so I will have to find the video I learned it from to explain the settings.
Use both. That’s the secret.
Marvellous
@@Producelikeapro ayyee
I felt like I really needed a clipper. I have two. Sir and IK clippers. It was a short romance. I find they sound extremely saturated to the extent of crunch. I think I often use things out of habit now and I use both clippers and limiters to squeeze about a half dB each and I can't even hear the difference. I was always taught if you can't hear it you shouldn't be doing it and yet I still do this with clippers and limiters.
Sometimes it can really bring things forward but to do it enough to achieve this pushing upfront, it causes a lot of artifacts.
Wouldn't be the end of the world to lose a clipper and limiter altogether. Not essential tools to me. I do loud EDM too. I just think this use of clippers and limiters is usually compensating for a balls up in the mix.
When I reach for the peak choppers, I always question why I have got to that point. As in 'I've made a hash of things somewhere'.
I am about to shop for a clipper actually, which is best in your view?
I rarely use one, so I think it’s a good time to test them out!
StandardClip
GClip (seriously)
or BOTH :)
As always, a lot of value, even in those yt shorts. Love your channel Warren! Cheers from Romania
Thanks ever so much David in Romania!
Most of the times I prefer AirWindows ClipOnly2 or ADclip7, which for me sounds better than Pro-L2. Actualy these clipers for me sounds cleaner in a musical way than this and other limiters. I mean, while it may adding some edge to the sound it manages dynamic more naturaly for my ears. But with these clipers you should be careful to not to push it too hard. If you need to squish dynamic hard, AirWindows NC-17 is better tool, but it sounds smoother.
808 and Clipper be like: 💏💒💍🤰
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
when mastering, i use a clipper usually just to chop off transients and add some excitement in the process to them, and then i use a clean true peak limiter (smart:limit by sonible) to get some of the final loudness out of the music
I got bought smart limit a few weeks ago and it’s probably one of the best limiter plugins I’ve used.
@@abrupt512 it's definitely the cleanest limiter i've ever heard
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Nice!!
i use nail clipper to level and smooth out my finger nails.
Always clipper first and limiter. Clipping the drumbus a bit and saturation vsts aswell
Thanks ever so much for sharing
Clippers are very in at the moment, for those mixes where 'loudness' is the goal they are great
Should you use a limiter on a mix bus, or leave that for the mastering process?
Warren has answered this before. He says not to use a limiter, or more than the tiniest bit of compression on the mix bus, because if you boost a frequency, or cut a frequency while mixing, the limiter or compressor, will just even it out again. So you need to finish the mix, before adding them. Other people have different ideas about it, but that's what Warren said in a previous video.
He may wish to comment further, but that's my take on what he's said in the past. 🙂
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn I've seen 'top down' mixing where they put a touch of glue compression (maybe -2db at most) and a bit of limiting on the mix bus.
I guess it all comes down to taste.
@@RolandDeschain1 Oh for sure, I'm just repeating what Warren has said before, as he may not get time to answer. He did say something like "maybe a tiny bit of compression to glue the mix".
Personally, I don't mix into a limiter or compressor, but I do put some on when I export the mix at the end of the session, so I can check it on a range of systems before I work on it again. Sometimes, I find that the limiter has brought up a ring or a honk that wasn't a problem before, on a snare perhaps, just in a certain part of the song, so sometimes I think mixing into some light limiting or compression might be a good idea, but as a rule, I don't do it.
I think mix without, check with. It really depends if you are going to give the mix to someone else to master, or are adding limiting and compression on the mix bus as a form of mastering. There really is no right or wrong, if it works, it works! 🙂👍
The ‘Top Down’ mixing is done by people who have templates in place. Not just starting off with multiple things in their Masterbus. They have bussing going on on everything so by the time it hits the Masterbus there is only gentle compression, EQ and limiting.
@@Producelikeapro I hope I got your take on it right Warren (or whoever is answering on his behalf).
Fantastic video! I was literally JUST pondering this topic. Thank you so much for breaking it down! 😎🎸🤘
Thanks ever so much Justin
Clipper into limiter 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
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I love the shorts!!
Clipper on kick drum is NOICE!!
Thanks ever so much for sharing
This really helps me understand what these words mean, in the context of labels to do with sound manipulation.
use both :)
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