​​NEW Canyon Ultimate First Look | 6.2kg Lightweight Racing Machine

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  • Опубліковано 10 гру 2024

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  • @gcn
    @gcn  2 роки тому +39

    What do you make of the new Canyon Ultimate?

    • @PartisanGamerDE
      @PartisanGamerDE 2 роки тому +21

      Canyon should focus on getting the bikes out the door they already have. People have waiting times of up to two years to even be able to place an order. The last thing Canyon needs right now is yet another model.

    • @NoOne-bt1op
      @NoOne-bt1op 2 роки тому +4

      i cant say for sure maybe you should gift me one and ill tell you my honest review 😅

    • @ChristophVonBagel
      @ChristophVonBagel 2 роки тому +10

      expensive

    • @ds94703
      @ds94703 2 роки тому +2

      Its a very light frame. I wish you would cover more of the details about frame size fit and chainring cassette ratios. Just saying Dura ace DI2 is already out of most peoples league. What really matters to hill climbers are those bottom gears. This bike is for pros or really wealthy guys who use them as a form of status symbol at the halfway cafe 20km from home..

    • @kennethward9530
      @kennethward9530 2 роки тому +1

      Same geometry now as an Aeroad. Since I'd have to do daily yoga to avoid pain with the reduced stack, might as well get the Aeroad.

  • @samc3769
    @samc3769 2 роки тому +314

    *Good that the cables are all internal, makes putting a basket on the front easier.*

    • @kna7lula
      @kna7lula 2 роки тому

      Jajaja

    • @larsborghouts8360
      @larsborghouts8360 2 роки тому

      😂😂

    • @kevinyang367
      @kevinyang367 2 роки тому

      Lmao 😂

    • @benhardwick1970
      @benhardwick1970 2 роки тому

      Love it!!! 😂

    • @karlnorgaard6077
      @karlnorgaard6077 2 роки тому +2

      Haha. Maybe that's next...the industry's reaction to accusations of being elitist and not serving the practical cyclist...the carbon fiber, wind tunnel tested handlebar basket. On that topic, can some accessory manufacturer please design a lightweight, aero bike bell that doesn't suck? That pedestrians can actually hear.

  • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
    @AlbertBuckinghamEllison 2 роки тому +254

    "It's hard to imagine where this will go, but it will go somewhere"...
    Down in price hopefully.

    • @knalliebar
      @knalliebar 2 роки тому +2

      Haha so uncomfortable it just goes to the next minor tweak that will cost you 100s extra

    • @garywebber3228
      @garywebber3228 2 роки тому +2

      land fill !!

    • @AlbionSupreme
      @AlbionSupreme 2 роки тому +14

      Put in on rollers in your living room and ride it instead of turning on the heat this winter and it will pay for itself in a month

    • @parenthlete
      @parenthlete 2 роки тому +6

      @@AlbionSupreme they need to put a bicycle price cap in place 😂

    • @MrBoggins1234
      @MrBoggins1234 2 роки тому +1

      @@AlbionSupreme excellent ROI 😂

  • @elmerrichardson6413
    @elmerrichardson6413 2 роки тому +9

    I have a 2019 Ultimate CF SL, Ultegra and rim brake model. I guess it's a classic now. 😎

  • @Spenczar1
    @Spenczar1 2 роки тому +87

    Great looking bike, got my Ultimate last year and while I am envious of the all internal routing, I’m definitely not fast enough to see the difference

    • @KyokushinkanVinayakShetty
      @KyokushinkanVinayakShetty 2 роки тому +13

      internal routing looks clean but apparently it affects handling / turning adversely...pro feedback.. as a beginner i cant figure any difference

    • @jerehada
      @jerehada 2 роки тому +1

      If you go back further my circa 2016 size large Endurace weighed without peddles 7.1kgs out of the box and cost something like £1800. They are still trying to offset the weight of disk brakes.

    • @loc9588
      @loc9588 2 роки тому +8

      Internal routing doesn't make you faster

    • @DanTuber
      @DanTuber 2 роки тому

      Same

    • @izaacbrown1057
      @izaacbrown1057 2 роки тому +3

      No one has ever lost a race from group set or cable routing

  • @dcmirk
    @dcmirk 2 роки тому +19

    "Considering what you get, its a bargain!" says every salesman ever. lmao

  • @1paulbeth
    @1paulbeth 2 роки тому +18

    More Ollie please. That is all. Thank you.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 роки тому +7

      At least someone likes him! 😉

    • @1paulbeth
      @1paulbeth 2 роки тому +3

      @@gcn 😆you're all great

  • @larioencarmiehlers8849
    @larioencarmiehlers8849 2 роки тому +16

    I agree with Ollie - Love old school look

  • @thesaintirl
    @thesaintirl 2 роки тому +9

    Got my ultimate cf8 earlier in year before the phased out rim brakes thank goodness.

    • @Gianniz27
      @Gianniz27 2 роки тому +4

      Was best bang for buck by far. 6.9 kg Ultegra R8000 2400 euros, not 8-10.000 like the new one.

    • @thesaintirl
      @thesaintirl 2 роки тому +1

      @@Gianniz27 I hope the bike industry sees they are turning their back on a huge part of their following, what bikes are in aluminium with rim brakes now but by far, most road cyclists are amateurs delighted to get in 100km a week.

    • @fede1275
      @fede1275 2 роки тому +4

      Got my second Ultimate CF7 rim 😄😄

  • @Stefano-cz6bo
    @Stefano-cz6bo 2 роки тому +9

    There was a time, and it was not so long ago, when you could buy a Canyon Ultimate CF SL with Ultegra for 2200 Euros. I miss that time. Now I'm spending a lot of effort on maintaining my three Canyon road bikes, last one bougth January 2020, so they can last as long as possible and will not buy a Canyon (and probably any other road bike) until all these three have worn out completely.

    • @GoustiFruit
      @GoustiFruit 2 роки тому +1

      I got my Endurace CF (7.2kg) with Ultegra for 1500€ a couple of years ago. But it was from their outlet 😛

    • @Gianniz27
      @Gianniz27 2 роки тому +4

      In 2019 Canyon made a discount it costed 1800 euros only from 2200. That was insane value, 6.9kg R8000 Ultegra Ultimate. Now u cant get it under 10.000. Also back in 2016 Canyon made mid summer TDF sales, I bought my Aeroad CF SLX for 2500 (discounted from 3300). Today inflation is massive, nobody will buy new bikes soon.

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 2 роки тому +1

      I went with the heavier but more robust route over carbon frames because of what you said...want to make them bikes last as long as possible...so I bought 3 ti bikes and a steel. Heavier yes but I'm no racer.

    • @fede1275
      @fede1275 2 роки тому +1

      Same here, 2 Ultimates CF SL 7 rim...

    • @jamesward8140
      @jamesward8140 2 роки тому

      @@bonbonflippers4298 I'm interested to know what you think of the titanium bikes rides quality, I'm looking at getting one for endurance rides over 200km, but not sure it's worth the extra £££ and half kilo weight increase over carbon, what do you think?

  • @aberdeenal3234
    @aberdeenal3234 2 роки тому +5

    I bought an Ultimate CF SLX 8.0 Di2 brand new in 2015 - I still have it as it's a fantastic bike which is far too good for me. It's the only bike I've kept for more than 4yrs although I haven't ridden it in over 14x months.
    I don't think I could justify +£10k on the CFR version unless I sold one of my kids...

  • @dancoulcher
    @dancoulcher 2 роки тому +3

    My Canyon Ultimate had two cracked frames from chain dismounts. The chain coming off had pulled at the front derailleur creating a crack at the point it was bolted on. They replaced the first for free & then offered me replacement at full cost (€2,000+) when it happened again 12m later. I’m not heavy (72kg) and was only doing 300w. At that point I had no confidence in the quality of their frames especially researching and finding I wasn’t alone with this problem.
    Fortunately I was able to find a good carbon frame repairer so now have a stronger frame than Canyon sold me. He was shocked at how thin and weak it was in the area by the front derailleur describing it as being like cardboard.
    I hope they have strengthened this area by now but I am staying away from Canyons. Otherwise the bike has been good but the frame is the one item Canyon make with most other parts from other manufacturers.

  • @junktionfet
    @junktionfet 2 роки тому +55

    Sadly out of my price range, but wow what a machine! Excellent review once again Ollie

    • @logan587
      @logan587 2 роки тому +15

      Excellent *advert. Cool bike for sure! Good to keep in mind who sponsors gcn though

    • @vishal_joshi24
      @vishal_joshi24 2 роки тому +3

      @@logan587 Pretty much the reason why you always hear Shimano 105 & Dura ace talks on this channel. They never mentioned companies like Sensah who sells the same stuff with 1/4 th the price! #justmy2cents

    • @logan587
      @logan587 2 роки тому +1

      @@vishal_joshi24 yeah even if you're aware of it, you can forget. Just the other day while looking into power meters I had a thought "oh what are those round pedals everyone seems to have", before realizing that those are made by wahoo, who sponsors a couple channels I watch

    • @vishal_joshi24
      @vishal_joshi24 2 роки тому

      @@logan587 i agree... Just way to much sponsor content...
      I personally have stopped relying on this channel for a neutral cycling videos/content!

    • @DaveCM
      @DaveCM 2 роки тому +4

      @@vishal_joshi24 you don't hear about Sensa on here because no bikes come it other than really cheap entry level bikes.

  • @livehealthy9858
    @livehealthy9858 2 роки тому +6

    can you make a comparison of aeroad and ultimate in a video like showing whats the difference in watts on climb and flats? so we could know which is which.

  • @Knitterfest
    @Knitterfest 2 роки тому +24

    The 1.8 kg savings compared to my current bike wont even out my 18 kg belly xD

  • @lennymccartney1
    @lennymccartney1 2 роки тому +193

    5th generation bike...10th generation price...

    • @slektit
      @slektit 2 роки тому +5

      they cant be cheap for all of the time tho
      still cheaper than cannondale etc

    • @7371301
      @7371301 2 роки тому +14

      $1,500 - $2,000 less than same builds from Specialized and Trek due to the business model of mail order primarily. There are a few showrooms. I am 100% satisfied with my 4th generation Ultimate.

    • @slektit
      @slektit 2 роки тому

      @@7371301 same

    • @lennymccartney1
      @lennymccartney1 2 роки тому +1

      @@7371301 this may be true but they are even more overpriced then...

    • @TheUltimateBashboy
      @TheUltimateBashboy 2 роки тому +1

      @@lennymccartney1 why overprized? Compared to other brands with similar Parts they are cheaper.

  • @Sampardhanani
    @Sampardhanani 2 роки тому +3

    Love the gcn team . Cute humble and simple guys , who are there to teach you to love biking 🚴‍♀️.

    • @Penalist
      @Penalist 2 роки тому +3

      They are employees of a very large commercial company, who make videos for a marketing channel on UA-cam, to get you and others to buy new cycling stuff.

    • @adamcoatham
      @adamcoatham 2 роки тому +1

      @@Penalist You’re fun at parties 😂

    • @Penalist
      @Penalist 2 роки тому +3

      @@adamcoatham No, I am not. (😉)

    • @adamcoatham
      @adamcoatham 2 роки тому +1

      @@Penalist Fair play 👍🏻😁

  • @davidslater6672
    @davidslater6672 2 роки тому +6

    Living in southern Spain and surrounded by sierras where I enjoy most of my riding, I'd have the ultimate, especially now that they have made those aero gains. Must say that the weight is amazing! Even the midrange model weighs the same as the top of the range Emonda

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 2 роки тому +1

      Merida scultura is way better looking and cheaper

    • @sonim4858
      @sonim4858 2 роки тому

      And heavier

    • @bernardo9202
      @bernardo9202 2 роки тому +1

      @@sonim4858 depends on tjhe model, my budget dosen't go beyond the ultegra model, so scultura is way better

    • @sonim4858
      @sonim4858 2 роки тому +1

      @@bernardo9202 so what are you comparing mechanical 11s ? Even there Canyon has a 105 which is cheaper and lighter. Top of the Range bike - 700 to 800g

    • @sonim4858
      @sonim4858 2 роки тому +1

      And the same weight as the Team Bike Scultura you already get for 2300 € less in the Canyon World. But True Merida is cheap compared to others but not to Canyon.

  • @megamegamind6793
    @megamegamind6793 2 роки тому +1

    I've got their triathlon machine... now it looks like i need one of these, what an amazing and beautiful bike :)

  • @andreal1647
    @andreal1647 2 роки тому +36

    Nice bike! But I would prefer build my own winspace slc 2.0 with rim brakes and their 38mm hyper wheels. Mechanical dura ace groupset with some oval rings and there you have your Leightweight Climbing machine for less than half price of the cfr ultimate 😉

    • @MegaXtc11
      @MegaXtc11 2 роки тому +2

      I would do that too!

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I'd go this route as well...

    • @michaelmechex
      @michaelmechex 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, that's pretty much what I am doing right now, but I'm going for the aero more than weight. Should end up being comparable quality to a top end Canyon, but under 4 grand.

    • @MegaXtc11
      @MegaXtc11 2 роки тому

      @@michaelmechex which frame are you building up ?

    • @michaelmechex
      @michaelmechex 2 роки тому +3

      @@MegaXtc11 not entirely sure yet, I already have everything other than the frameset and wheels. I'll most likely go for Ican A22, but I'm also considering Elves Falath and Yoeleo R9 or R21. As for wheels I'll most likely get Winspace Hyper D45. I already got a good deal on Dura ace 9120 groupset.

  • @MariaClaraSantana1
    @MariaClaraSantana1 2 роки тому +1

    Glad I bought one and it's on its way! Delivery times are already up

  • @matic2601
    @matic2601 2 роки тому +1

    This black and white colour way is just looking insane!

  • @kerbodynamicx472
    @kerbodynamicx472 2 роки тому +26

    Another nice bike I can’t afford 😭
    Aluminium needs more attention

    • @ThorDyrden
      @ThorDyrden 2 роки тому +1

      When you aim for top-performance / competition bikes AL is not an option any more... but for leisure riding Canyon has the Endurance AL line.

    • @MrKSRO
      @MrKSRO 2 роки тому

      @@ThorDyrden aluminium is still a good Material. Stendert shows how it is. Big Brands just pref to sell more exlusive stuff since they get more money as if they sell aluminium Frames with the top notch comps

    • @ThorDyrden
      @ThorDyrden 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrKSRO Aluminium of course is a good frame-material... but not for the top-notch bikes any more...
      It's more about the additional possibilities CF gives you in frame-design, than margin imho

    • @mihalis1010
      @mihalis1010 2 роки тому

      Aluminum had (and still has) years of attention.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 роки тому +1

      Lots of great aluminium frames out there!

  • @jcoi9304
    @jcoi9304 2 роки тому +18

    Francis Cade put together a 6 kg bike a few days ago and it was much cheaper

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      You can put a 4kg rim brake bike together easily I know which bike I’d be riding up the hills on

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 2 роки тому +8

    Wow China are getting really good at making light bikes

    • @jim9685769
      @jim9685769 2 роки тому

      Don't add to the Mainland China propaganda. They are made in a first word country called Taiwan. Not the developing world country of Mainland China. Taiwan has never been ruled by China. Different passport, different currency, different government, different flag and different military.

    • @fukawitribe
      @fukawitribe 2 роки тому +1

      What do you mean "getting" - they've been producing a bunch of the lightest frame-sets for years now. Where do you think the majority of the skilled lay-up and manufacturing talent is ?

    • @GS-pk9rd
      @GS-pk9rd 2 роки тому

      @@fukawitribe Taiwan

    • @fukawitribe
      @fukawitribe 2 роки тому

      @@GS-pk9rd Yep. Still part of China last I looked.

    • @GS-pk9rd
      @GS-pk9rd 2 роки тому +2

      @@fukawitribe Er.. not quite. But I'm sure the Chinese communist party would thank you for saying that!

  • @tresdomine9445
    @tresdomine9445 2 роки тому +1

    You should have a look at Fara Bikes not as light but the price is more affordable to people who aren't students and there integrated bikepacking system is really cool and I plan on saving up for one of their bikes

  • @karlnorgaard6077
    @karlnorgaard6077 2 роки тому +9

    Virtually indiscernable changes from last model as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure it's a rad bike, but most interesting thing I heard him mention is the quill style stem attachment. Brilliant! Quill stems worked great for about 100 years.

  • @PartisanGamerDE
    @PartisanGamerDE 2 роки тому +43

    Canyon should focus on getting the bikes out the door they already have. People have waiting times of up to two years to even be able to place an order. The last thing Canyon needs right now is yet another model.

    • @haukeschwarting4424
      @haukeschwarting4424 2 роки тому +10

      I guess product development and Supply chain problems are two different things. Canyon can’t stop developing new products, just because shimano and other suppliers aren’t able to deliver parts to canyon on time. Maybe I’m wrong but I think it doesn’t work this way

    • @honeybadger3855
      @honeybadger3855 2 роки тому

      Amen sista

    • @ChristophVonBagel
      @ChristophVonBagel 2 роки тому

      @@haukeschwarting4424 I understand what your saying . It just looks like bad optics to me . So the product development teams and Supply Chain don't talk to each other ? Does Samsung announce a TV and says nope you have to wait months to a year to buy it ? How about a new iPhone ? It just looks bad . To be fair though all the bike manufactures are having these issues which makes you think they are all getting their stuff from the same place .

    • @Rule5Cyclery
      @Rule5Cyclery 2 роки тому +1

      @@ChristophVonBagel yea, they actually do! Especially with the curved screens and other niche tech.

    • @liamg9846
      @liamg9846 2 роки тому

      The waiting times aren’t two years I’ve been monitoring numerous models they have, few months of out of stock if that. Some are available within weeks. Where do you live?

  • @WBLBears11
    @WBLBears11 2 роки тому +8

    I'd like to see more quantitative comparisons from GCN on manufacturers aero claims. Even if mfgs could be trusted, a purported improvement over the previous gen is meaningless if we have no knowledge of how they stack up against other brands to begin with.

    • @RyonBeachner
      @RyonBeachner 2 роки тому +1

      This won’t happen. Canyon literally pays for these videos to be made introducing their products, it’s a marketing arrangement, not a review.

    • @WBLBears11
      @WBLBears11 2 роки тому +1

      @@RyonBeachner I know. I just said I'd like to see it.

  • @simonmurray2417
    @simonmurray2417 2 роки тому +2

    Very nice bike, and Olie, your last question is indeed the right one! The Ultimate CFR or Aeroad CFR also due soon. Yes expensive, but what isn't nowadays and better value than competitors. I will run 28mm or 32 mm tyres and I will change the saddle - who wouldn't? Have ruled out Pinarello, Specialized, Trek, etc......have been waiting a while....prefer the old paint job though.....decisions decisions.....

  • @yavormihaylov8711
    @yavormihaylov8711 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting, all other brands out there is going for "One bike to rule them all", but Canyon ist going for Aero Ultimate and light Aeroad. I like this business concept that shows, that climbing bikes are still in. But to be honest I purchase my Ultimate CF SLX back in 2020 and it was 6.6kg with 48mm wheels and "heavy" saddle. If I switch to this light babies from dtswiss and put a ridiculously light saddle, I will probably hit 6.2 as well... And I don't have the CFR... So I guess Aero is heavy after all... Nice vid btw Ollie. Hope see you and the crew on the next GCN Event!

  • @Simon-lo4md
    @Simon-lo4md 2 роки тому

    pure enjoyment listening this german engineer speaking about the developement of the bike

  • @Karollenart
    @Karollenart 2 роки тому +1

    I wish I could go with rim breakes with them. And suddenly got 5,2kg bike :D or 6,2 SLX variant

  • @aszalai86
    @aszalai86 2 роки тому +28

    I haven't watched the video yet, but I guess it is x% stiffer, y% lighter, z% more "compliant" and takes wider wheels? And probably more "aero" too...
    EDIT: Watched it... ROFL I am dying XD

    • @gamecat1923
      @gamecat1923 2 роки тому

      It's heavier at the same spec

    • @swe223
      @swe223 2 роки тому +6

      You forgot w% more expensive of course

    • @aszalai86
      @aszalai86 2 роки тому +6

      @@swe223 But at least you get the still inaccurate (comapred to others) Shimano power meter with it... it is somewhat "funny" that almost half of the price is the groupset (DA Di2 w/ power is almost 5kEUR). Cycling industry has gone insane the last couple of years...

    • @philthewriter
      @philthewriter 2 роки тому

      @@aszalai86 Odd thing is the cycling industry went insane before the current energy crisis. Mildly curious if we'll see them stick at current prices or hike like everything else - £10k mid range bikes anyone?

  • @B_KFC_Leg
    @B_KFC_Leg 2 роки тому +4

    A true master piece and probably the lightest bike out there with full internal cabling. A long due update to the old model with external cabling. It’s going to be a competition to order one of these 👍

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому +1

      My 2014 TCR is lighter than that flimsy junk

    • @B_KFC_Leg
      @B_KFC_Leg 10 місяців тому

      @@Tarmaccyclocross what a coincident, I also have a 2014 tcr (advanced SL4). It still rides really really well.

  • @JuanCruz-wf5jk
    @JuanCruz-wf5jk 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks god I got the 2021 version, the last without disk brakes 💃💃

  • @bubblesezblonde
    @bubblesezblonde 2 роки тому

    Peak bike would also be Time and Space geared/braked to crack continuums. Excellent vid by both Dr. Bridgewood and the Siborg.

  • @robotomassi2011
    @robotomassi2011 2 роки тому +8

    Yeah, great that they've made a new Ultimate. How about they sort out the Aeroad with its widely reported seat post problems. Was all set to buy one and luckily cottoned on to the 175605 bad reviews mentioning the seemingly unsolvable seatpost issue. GCN, how about you speak to their R&D guys about that?

  • @svenniefpv
    @svenniefpv 2 роки тому +1

    One of the most beutifull modern no nonsens bikes there is on the market.i ride the previous ultimate but my next will be also an ultimate....

  • @Chris-0703
    @Chris-0703 2 роки тому +23

    As a current owner of the CF SLX, I see no improvements other than the hidden cables.

    • @nikosu5912
      @nikosu5912 2 роки тому

      Thats kinda the point tho

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 2 роки тому

      Truth!

    • @ugastronomie1237
      @ugastronomie1237 2 роки тому

      No, you are just jealous and trying to justify having an old bike

    • @lukepugh7728
      @lukepugh7728 2 роки тому

      Not really. The hidden cables add a lot of complication. The one piece bar makes it difficult to get the right stem length. Hand position is not as comfortable as a round bar. Garmin mounts/lights etc are also more difficult to add easily without expensive bike specific mounts and adaptors. For most people wanting an ultimate climbing bike traditional bars would be preferable.

    • @nikosu5912
      @nikosu5912 2 роки тому +1

      @@lukepugh7728 i find round handlebars less comfortable than aero ones

  • @adriancnolan
    @adriancnolan 2 роки тому

    Interesting and helpful as I'm seriously thinking of getting one.

  • @petinka721
    @petinka721 2 роки тому +1

    Perfect bike!

  • @troycollett8540
    @troycollett8540 2 роки тому

    The alpecin bikes look super nice

  • @tariqmaruf
    @tariqmaruf 2 роки тому +2

    Can you please link in what bike computer mount was on the new Ultimate? I have a Canyon with a similar aero handlebar and getting a mount with an integrated go pro adapter is challenging.

  • @frankconte264
    @frankconte264 2 роки тому +2

    I've always wanted to own. Canyon and I'm hoping to buy one this year. I was looking at the aero but this looks not bad as well. Great video Ollie, love them and truly appreciate them.

  • @mohapagla
    @mohapagla 2 роки тому +1

    Though these always will be out of my price league but the pricing is actually pretty good. the 5k one is worth the money!

  • @parenthlete
    @parenthlete 2 роки тому +1

    A tarmac sl6 disc weights 6.8 with med depth wheels and tubes and power-meter and that’s last gen tech. Would be nice for GCN to do some proper group tests and recognise that bikes not in their sponsorship exist ..

  • @davidevans9888
    @davidevans9888 2 роки тому +1

    Super nice without a doubt.

  • @fartman10284
    @fartman10284 2 роки тому

    I visited the Canyon showroom in Carlsbad, CA, USA yesterday

  • @EryPrihananto
    @EryPrihananto 2 роки тому +4

    I will save money for 10 years to buy this one, but 10 years later I will save again for 2032 edition, and then and then

    • @MegaXtc11
      @MegaXtc11 2 роки тому +1

      You can invest your money so that way it doesn't lose value by inflation, but I'd rather build a Chinese frame like Trifox or Winspace instead of this

  • @jgarcia1925
    @jgarcia1925 2 роки тому +2

    i can only dream of a bike like this lol. its a beauty.

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      It’s flimsy shite

    • @jgarcia1925
      @jgarcia1925 10 місяців тому

      @@Tarmaccyclocross especially with my fatass on it lol

  • @KelvinSuddith
    @KelvinSuddith 2 роки тому +2

    Can we get more reviews with SRAM? Pretty sure buying/building a SRAM bike is way cheaper than a Shimano Di2 105

  • @podologieraeke623
    @podologieraeke623 Рік тому

    Better check out your seat tube!! Mine came in XL with an asymmetrical and crooked seat tube. I wait for replacement frame since september. I only received excuses yet!

  • @RobinHood-yk8og
    @RobinHood-yk8og 2 роки тому +7

    10 watts or 13 seconds over 10 miles in a wind tunnel... - 28mph/45Kph is a 21:26 for the 10. Saving 13 seconds... is a 1% improvement - That's so small and in ideal conditions, that it will be well within the margin of error of even the wind tunnel test, let alone any practical irl test. i.e It's unsupportable BS. From a Bicycle Industry Marketing department? Never...
    On the F1 Swiss Side link, I take it no one has noticed the $$$ Hundreds of Millions spent by F1 teams over the years on CFD and wind tunnels, not least this year's Mercedes incarnation, only to discover that they had made the worst possible design decisions for actual on track performance.
    Those pearlescent stickers though... very nice.

    • @Intentsrig
      @Intentsrig 2 роки тому +1

      5 watts with a rider. Is a great looking bike though.

    • @mikebrewer1346
      @mikebrewer1346 2 роки тому

      @@Intentsrig This detail seems to have conveninetly missed and should really be issued as a correction as the (TT) scenario given requires a rider. Given that Canyon have hidden the cables and reduced the height of the front end in line with the aeroad I am surprised that they couldn't do better very honestly (especially given the inflated speed used for the measure)

    • @RobinHood-yk8og
      @RobinHood-yk8og 2 роки тому

      ​@@mikebrewer1346 "I am surprised that they couldn't do better" - They can't even prove they did _this_ well. They have to publish a figure that wont catch a class action lawsuit, but they also need to sell the bike... so we are told there is an increase, but it's well within any testable margin and all but untestable in real world conditions.

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 2 роки тому

    Looks like the next bike I build up will have a rim brake frame with Campy Chorus with rim brakes and manual shifting. What other race worthy group can be built with rim brakes and cable shifting? The last Campy equipped bike I had was built with 8 speed Chorus Ergo.
    Call me Retro.

  • @facediaper09
    @facediaper09 2 роки тому +4

    Call me when we go back to 2016.

  • @kidkarbon4775
    @kidkarbon4775 2 роки тому

    Never thought I would live to see Canyon make some of the better looking bikes in the pro-peleton

  • @tomedward8652
    @tomedward8652 2 роки тому +4

    10,500 Euros !!!! - what world do GCN and Canyon think people live in?

    • @GCNuser123
      @GCNuser123 2 роки тому

      i agree it’s a lot for the top end one, but when you compare the spec with spesh or pinarello it’s very competitive for the equivalent model

  • @midpackchill
    @midpackchill 2 роки тому +2

    At 14:58 Ollie says that there’s an spec with SL frame with ultegra di2 with power meter for 4,999 euros. Is that only offered in Europe ? Because I don’t see that option in the US website

    • @Intentsrig
      @Intentsrig 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I noticed on another review that listed pricing and it had no price listed for a few models for US dollars.
      I actually bought the 2022 Ultimate 12sp di2 CF SL 8 and it showed up with a left crank arm 4iiii power meter (Not listed on components). So that was a nice surprise. It’s Working well.

  • @chlebu
    @chlebu 5 місяців тому

    You also tested the Orbea Orca 2024. Which bike is more comfortable to ride for an amateur?
    Thank you

  • @ItsFuzzyduck
    @ItsFuzzyduck 2 роки тому +1

    Can you cover the Canyon Endurace CF 7?

  • @Intentsrig
    @Intentsrig 2 роки тому +3

    Isn’t the claim 5 watts saved with a rider on it? So the 10 watts time saving is a bit stretched. New Handlebar likely biggest savings combined with what 1watt from brake cables?

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne 2 роки тому +1

      And its only that at 45kph. So basically nothing at say 30-35kph.

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      I’ve never heard such crap get in the real world

  • @willmo1725
    @willmo1725 2 роки тому +2

    Way cool bike. The all internal cabling, is neat. After reading alot of the comments now we all kust need to find 10k laying around some where. Good show.

  • @petetube99
    @petetube99 2 роки тому +7

    It's amazing, but amazing bikes never used to cost this much. We are all being mugged off.

  • @sandgroper1970
    @sandgroper1970 2 роки тому +3

    Well the only time I see 40 kph is on a descent. I can do around 30 kph on the flats so I may see a minimal benefit, but reality is I don’t need a super light climbing bike.

  • @tomassanesson902
    @tomassanesson902 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome bike 👍🤘❤❤❤

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork 2 роки тому +3

    Great looking and riding bike by the sounds of it 🥰 well presented too 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @andrewclarke5741
    @andrewclarke5741 2 роки тому +1

    Great bike. You should ride it at tring....

  • @davidbenedetti4035
    @davidbenedetti4035 2 роки тому +1

    Hi i got a question what would you recommend more to get the aeroad cf slx or the new ultimate cf slx , i am struggling beacause i life not far from the ocean with quite a lot crosswinds

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      Are for real so called aero bikes are absolute shite In cross winds

  • @KenSmith-bv4si
    @KenSmith-bv4si 2 роки тому +3

    Ollie that Canyon is pretty awesome and who wouldn't want a 6.2 kg bike, its awesome. I however have a 2022 S-Works Atheos with 28mm tyres on Zipp 303 firecrest wheel set, sadly it's 500grams heavier than the Canyon but, thats because I cheaped out and went with Sram Force instead of Red.

    • @Penalist
      @Penalist 2 роки тому

      Ok.

    • @KenSmith-bv4si
      @KenSmith-bv4si 2 роки тому +1

      @@Penalist tankx I feel better now.

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      Yeah who wouldn’t want a bike with a frame so flimsy one little spill and it’s knackered. I have a 2014 TCR that’s lighter than that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @silverground3670
    @silverground3670 2 роки тому

    looks clean, dashing and classic

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      And it snap in half if you have a little spill

  • @markmoreno7295
    @markmoreno7295 2 роки тому

    Are you kidding? It looks fantastic! Only one thing seemed missing to me and that was a slightly bigger pancake on the cog set.

  • @TobiasStadtfeld
    @TobiasStadtfeld 2 роки тому

    hey, thanx for the great video! what brand is the wahoo mount with the integrated light-/gopro-mount? at min 8.10
    thanx Tobias

  • @Joshua-dx7zn
    @Joshua-dx7zn 2 роки тому +3

    At $11,000 dollars, it is fairly unattainable for most people. Not the best looking bike, but amazing they can make a disc brake bike that light. I cannot see why it isn't possible to build light bikes that don't cost $10,000. Being 130lbs, I really need a light bike like this, but there is no way I'm dropping that much money.

    • @Pienimusta
      @Pienimusta 2 роки тому +4

      The basic carbon model starts at 2k and is barely over 8kg.

    • @aszalai86
      @aszalai86 2 роки тому +4

      "I really need a light bike like this" - no you do not... you may "want" a light bike, but what people need is common sense instead of believing all the marketing BS and buying these overpriced bikes which get more expensive year by year without any development. Edit: also, it is possible to build light bikes for much cheaper. You may want to look at Winspace frames for example... there are also some extremely light and objectively good wheels available for ~1kEUR... And if you want Di2, the good old 8050 Ultegra is perfect, just use some other cranks that do not fall apart (105 for example).

    • @Joshua-dx7zn
      @Joshua-dx7zn 2 роки тому +1

      @@Pienimusta It's actually 3k (in US dollars) and weighs 8.22kg or 18lbs. I mean not bad for a 105 component bike, but that extra 4lbs over 40-60 miles adds up.

    • @Gianniz27
      @Gianniz27 2 роки тому +1

      @@Joshua-dx7zn It has a 2kg wheelset, changing it to even a decent 1500 gramm alu set u gain a lot.

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 2 роки тому +1

      @@Joshua-dx7zn if you're racing maybe but a fit amateur rider should be able to ride 8 kgs of bike fast all day. Many gravel bikes are 8kgs plus and that doesn't stop guys going on ultra events.

  • @gabebikes
    @gabebikes 2 роки тому +1

    That is one sleek bike!

  • @facingup1624
    @facingup1624 2 роки тому

    I think Olli is the only person on youtube that doesn't completely butcher the pronunciation of schwalbe

  • @The1trueDave
    @The1trueDave 2 роки тому +3

    I'm quite conflicted over this - I love the clean lines but I dislike internal cable routing on principle and I'm not sure you can have one without the other really!
    Now, if only this came in 7005 alloy with mechanical 105 it might be within my budget :-)

  • @anthonyregis7508
    @anthonyregis7508 2 роки тому

    Love it On my wishlist

    • @gcn
      @gcn  2 роки тому

      That's one fancy wish list! 👀

    • @Tarmaccyclocross
      @Tarmaccyclocross 10 місяців тому

      Are you a bit simple

  • @afonsograde5531
    @afonsograde5531 2 роки тому +3

    (13:30) Wait a minute, did you stop the rear wheel with the left brake !?😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

    • @ValentinHhn
      @ValentinHhn 2 роки тому +8

      british braking hits different

    • @Goriaas
      @Goriaas 2 роки тому +3

      it's an English thing. They do it like that, I think has to do with traffic being left sided

    • @xtrailz
      @xtrailz 2 роки тому +2

      The UK just has to be different - drive on the left, pounds and ounces, and bad teeth

    • @afonsograde5531
      @afonsograde5531 2 роки тому

      @@Goriaas That makes a lot of sense 😳. The cars also must have the clutch on the right and the throtle on the left. 🙃

    • @Goriaas
      @Goriaas 2 роки тому

      @@afonsograde5531 No clutch is still on the left in England

  • @gerardvanommenkloeke9464
    @gerardvanommenkloeke9464 2 роки тому +6

    Still the most drab of all the high end bikes. Take a page out of Trek and Specialised’s playbook. Canyon needs to hire colourists and materials designers to give their high priced bikes a proper paint job.

    • @johnsmithers284
      @johnsmithers284 2 роки тому +1

      In Ye Olden Days, every model from low end to high end had a beautiful paint job. Manufacturers then figured out that if you lock the nice paint to the higher models, it worked as an incentive to get people to buy them. Now here we are and no one gets nice paint. All black for everyone.

  • @alanschulz8401
    @alanschulz8401 2 роки тому +1

    I imagine that it's a good deal quicker than my old Masi nuovo strada...

  • @Timtimzi
    @Timtimzi 2 роки тому +1

    Would you take this bike? or the Factor 02 VaM

  • @lukaszbbbb
    @lukaszbbbb 2 роки тому

    Winspace get there SLC'S at around 5 kgs when they go for lightweight,and at a 3rd of the price.

  • @jempanuncialman9361
    @jempanuncialman9361 2 роки тому +1

    Im gonna put aero wheelset on that frame

  • @llorzz
    @llorzz 2 роки тому

    such a cool bike!

  • @lee-cycling
    @lee-cycling 2 роки тому +1

    Si: "give me an example of something that I won't notice but yet makes the difference"
    R&D guy: *points to one of the most noticeable changes*

  • @ianhutton725
    @ianhutton725 2 роки тому

    Questions on sizing, wondering what your height and inseam are and what size are you riding ?

  • @sdbentrup
    @sdbentrup 2 роки тому

    Lighter, stiffer, more aero... of course. But what about those wedge-shaped headset spacers with the bolt? Is this some kind of system that ensures the stem is in-line with the wheel? If so, this is the real innovation in this bike. I can't say how many hours of my life have been spent over the years obsessing over whether or not the stem was aligned straight to the wheel. I cannot be alone in that.

  • @EJGilb
    @EJGilb 2 роки тому

    Love you too Ollie

  • @JackSparrow-u3c
    @JackSparrow-u3c Рік тому +1

    fancy thia bike

  • @fredericlemieux-martel6866
    @fredericlemieux-martel6866 2 роки тому +5

    Nice bike. Will it be as available as the old ultimate? (which means never😅)

  • @edromero7985
    @edromero7985 2 роки тому

    ....what would be the time difference by adding power ???? (ie getting in better shape)

  • @ACL9000
    @ACL9000 2 роки тому

    I wish I was man enough to warrant owning something like this. I could never do it justice.

  • @flex96
    @flex96 2 роки тому

    13:22 I have my brakes set up the same way!! Funny

  • @PrzemyslawSliwinski
    @PrzemyslawSliwinski 2 роки тому +5

    If it is 10W at 45km/h, how many will it be at 35km/h? 1W?

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne 2 роки тому +3

      If that haha

    • @felixsilver2758
      @felixsilver2758 2 роки тому +1

      should be 6 watts

    • @mdbourne
      @mdbourne 2 роки тому

      @@felixsilver2758 doesn’t work like that, aerodynamic resistance is exponential not linear. The difference is greatly amplified the faster you go. The reason they pick 45kph, even though that’s not a speed people usually cruise at, is cause they need to in order to get a number that sounds better.

    • @Gianniz27
      @Gianniz27 2 роки тому +3

      10W is without a rider. With rider only 5W according to Canyon.

    • @aczech12
      @aczech12 2 роки тому

      @@Gianniz27 yup, so around 1w difference at 35 km/h.. much less than changing tube to a better or inflating tires a little bit more

  • @davehogan6401
    @davehogan6401 2 роки тому +3

    It's actually good value when compared to other also out of control bike prices.

    • @covefe9210
      @covefe9210 2 роки тому

      This was exactly what I was thinking. That's a $4000 wheel set and its got a power meter as well. Seems like a pretty good deal, compared to what the other manufacturers are offering at the same price point!

    • @adrianc6534
      @adrianc6534 2 роки тому

      @@covefe9210 that wheelset probably costs 300 bucks to manufacture.

  • @danicabarnave9556
    @danicabarnave9556 Рік тому

    Can you guys compare the Tarmac SL7 and the Canyon Ultimate?

  • @marcinstyle85
    @marcinstyle85 2 роки тому +1

    Nowadays bicycles are made of gold ??? 😄🙃 ,average spec bike is more expensive then nice motorbike ....crazy!

  • @Trailrunner.
    @Trailrunner. 2 роки тому +17

    I'm not impressed. What have they done in the last 4 years?

  • @terrywalker7127
    @terrywalker7127 2 роки тому +1

    Curious how the new Canyon stacks up against the Factor V02 .