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Yep. For me, the finale was the show's weakest part. Too rushed, no more espionage feeling, G'iah almost ridicolously powered...but it certainly doesn't earn the hate it gets.
I thought it was weird that , in ep 5 Fury says we cant' rely on superheros to save us all the time.. then in ep 6 win by giving Gaia all the superhero/villain powers we ever seen in the MCU.
The possibility that Rhodey was taken after Civil War and doesn't know that his best friend is now dead is heartbreaking. I really hope that isn't the case. Amazing editing as always, Johnny!
@@jwroot Huh? What about the comic version of this storyline? Wasn't it revealed that many, MANY heroes had actually been Skrulls for YEARS? So why can't the MCU get away with just 1 major character being one?
@@jwrootwhat exactly did we know about rhodey other than he was a friend of tony? This gives the character somewhere to start for his movie. We will get to see that emotion when he finds out and see him grow from everything he's been through. I can't wait. Don cheadle is an amazing actor and he's gonna amaze us with this character in armor wars. 😊
I think that'd be a good launching point for Armor Wars, just start it with Cheadle on an early morning run through DC, ala Winter Soldier or rowing ala Jack Ryan to get the Military Thriller vibe. Then when he gets home, he steps out of the device that helps him walk and struggles to get into a chair and spots a photo of him and Stark which gives him a tinge of vague regret.
The show ultimately was just okay. I was expecting something much worse considering the reviews but I was entertained, mostly by the performances of Sam Jackson, Olivia Colman, Ben Mendelsohn and Don Cheadle. They pretty much carried the show at times. One of the harshest things I can say about it? Three Doctor Who episodes from almost a decade ago (Day of the Doctor, Zygon Invasion and Zygon Inversion) did the same story arc for a race of shape shifting aliens hiding on Earth but Doctor Who did the story a lot better.
Regarding this finale... just like the late Talos said to his wife on the post credit scene for Spiderman: Far From Home, "IT WAS FINE". I don’t give a damn about anything else... what got me pumped the most towards the end was Sonja recruiting G'iah for a possible Excalibur setup.
I like how the writers just blatantly ignored the fact that Ghost's phasing powers are unstable and cause her constant pain. Not to mention that they will eventually kill her and that's why she was so desperate for a cure. Plus half those powers do the exact same thing rendering most of them redundant. I mean Cul Obsidian, Hulk, Abomination, Captain America, Bucky, Drax. All basically the same thing to varying degrees. Hulk alone would have been enough. The rest ain't even necessary in that category.
I hope we get to see rhodey’s reaction to finding out everything that happened since he’s been in captivity. Him finding out everything that happened is gonna break him. Hope we get to see that in armor wars
*_I sure hope it turns out that G'iah's powers are but temporary and that they will fade out with (a short) time: Because having such an OP character in the MCU is a huge story problem (They should have had her fly herself and Gravik into the sun!)... But since they got Emilia Clarke to play her, I don't see how it can be that they only had her contracted for just being a non-super Skrull (Shame!)_*
I hate that she and gravik had every power. Why write yourself into that corner, she's too op now. The most well known super skrull had 4 powers with every other super skrull copying 1 also could've easily replicated that super skrull with ghost, Korg, extremis, and Groot but we never got the comic accurate look for some reason.
Well it mean other than the infinity stones only her power can kill her but i think even Thor or Thanos would have in a bad way or even die from a blast like that and it prove how much Carol is holding back.
I don't get how the Super Skrulls were able to duplicate Hulk's powers because Hulk's powers are based on gamma radiation, and it said that the Skrulls were immune to radiation, so I thought that the Skrulls wouldn't be able to replicate Hulk's powers.
My guess the same way they did in shehulk as they said that the banner family’s dna can absorb and basically synthesize the gamma radiation. So maybe they took banner’s dna and by extension Hulks as well?
Things that didn't make sense to me in the finale, and I'm saying this as someone who was really excited for the finale : 1. Why would Gravik not kill Fury (she was Gaia, but he didn't know) or attempt to kill him as soon as he gave him the harvest? 2. Did Gaia really counted on Gravik using the machine with her inside so that she could get powers? I mean what if Gravik just said, "Well you gave me the harvest, your purpose is over, and then kills Fury (or Gaia) straight away. That'd have exposed Gaia right away. Or what if Gravik decided that he would use machine later on, after he imprisoned Fury (again he didn't know she was Gaia). 3. How the fuck Gaia beat Gravik? Gravik had been a figter all his life since he was a kid, he actually knew how to fight unlike Gaia who was important person only cuz she was the daughter of the General of their entire species. He literally fought his way up, and only after that he became Super Skrull. Gaia, on the other hand had no such experience, she didn't know how to fight as much as Gravik. I'm glad she won, but it felt forced. Under no circumstances Gravik was gonna lose to Gaia if both got the powers of the harvest at the same time. 4. I really expected Nick Fury to return as a badass, like he was in the Winter Soldier, and I was so hyped up after he wore back the eyepatch at the end of episode 5, and they lost the chance massively. 5. The show explains that Fury doesn't wants to bring Avengers into this all Skrull invasion case. But they could thave rather explained that he actually couldn't. Thor, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow were his go-to avengers. All are either lost after the blip and its impact, or gone forever. Spiderman used the spell to wipe everyone's memories so now no one remembers who he is. Captain Marvel is off world and he probably lost the device to contact her when he got blipped away. Wanda is gone too. Hulk might not have been enough here as well as they didn't know who was enemy. But no, they had to be lazy and instead just say he didn't want to call the Avengers. Like dude you formed the Avengers Initiative, you made the team for the world ending crisis like this, you just can't say you don't want to call them in need. Just say you won't because you can't. 6. The lack of security around President's hospital. He's the president of the United States, and he just got an attempt made on his life, that too aerial, that too seemingly by Russians. There's no way there are that less and that incompetent people surrounding him in the hospital after that. And certainly there's no way Nick Fury is going to enter the hospital with a gun on him after that, even though he said his life cuz protocols. 7. When Gaia said to Gravik "You killed my mother", it was just a bad move by the dialogue writing department. Gaia already knew Gravik killed her mother because her father personally told her, but she didn't believe him then and continued working for Gravik in the initial episodes. Now after Talos is killed, she remembers her mother, bit where are her emotions for her father. There's no way a person whose both parents are killed by the same villain is going to be angry at the villain just for the death of one of the parent. Ahe should have said "You killed my parents". Even saying "You killed my father" would have made much more sense than her saying "You killed my mother" because that was a recent event and she was still grieving from her father's death. Feel bad for Emilia Clarke though, she again became a part of a show that was going good untill the end. Sorry for the wall of text, as someone who enjoyed the show for the first five episodes, I was disappointed.
It’s funny how some of them brought comments like this up. One of them even said y’all are gonna complain about it and one of them even said what are y’all expecting at this point. Can’t expect endgame level stuff every time. It’s also funny how a guy just disproved your entire essay
I can answer a few of these but not all cause this finale is confusing asf. And I knew it was gonna be like that in episode 5 when Gravik who had been a step ahead the whole show and was moving smart asf decided to kill his right hand man for asking questions and then call his foot soldiers mindless and face less nobodies as well as doom all his people for a vial of avengers juice. Answering number 3- Giah used her head she opened up her repertoire of powers. She was using ghosts powers from ant man 2 ( which that opens a whole bunch more questions ) and mantis’ powers as opposed to gravik who specifically kept using the strength based powers mainly. He tried to brute force the battle in an aggressive way and it led to his down fall. Answer #6 there were plenty of security all around ritson it’s just Nick fury was taking them all out with the tranq gun. Answering #5 I think the writers got too bogged down in trying to create this grounded show where they didn’t end up relying on the other heroes and it hurt the ending overall. answer #1: Gravik is very emotional he feels used and abused this whole plan grew from his growing disdain and disengagement with fury. So when fury pulls up he takes the time to vent everything he’s been holding in. The words he’s been saying over and over in his head. Now after he’s done talking I don’t know why he didn’t just murder fury. I’m currently hoping that when secret wars happens and the multiverse resets to one world that the next 2 sagas mcu does is the Secret saga a secret invasion saga event spanning a phase or 2 and a Civil war saga. Both of these stories are HUGE events that effect so much in the comics and proper fleshed out storylines would be great. They should not have been single solitary films or shows
1. Gravik’s arrogance blinded him. He thought it was actually Nick Fury, and if it had actually been Fury, Fury would have been a dead man the moment he entered the compound. There was no reason for him to rush it. 2. You’re assuming a lot about both Gravik and G’iah here that nothing in the show established about either. Gravik’s arrogance was his downfall, and G’iah was consistently a step ahead of him once she flipped sides. She knew he wouldn’t kill Fury straight away because he wouldn’t see Fury as a threat. 3. Not even sure what you’re talking about with this one. Seems like the same kind of “Mary Sue” misogyny that frequently gets levied unfairly at female characters. G’iah has been training her whole life too, and was so good that she was welcomed into the inner circle with Pagan and the rest of the fighters *even though* her dad was Talos. 4. Did you even watch the episode? Nick Fury, in his seventies, took down an entire troupe of Secret Service agents without even being seen. Then he capped Raava in the face. 5. You not liking a narrative choice does not make it “lazy,” please be serious. 6. The vast majority of the president’s security detail was murdered on a runway hours before this scene happened, and the show addressed this as well…? 7. This is just an astonishingly bad read of what happened. G’iah believed Talos when he told her in Ep 1, she knew he wouldn’t lie about that, and then she went into an alley immediately afterward and *showed you on camera* her reaction to that information. She also immediately flipped, right then, and began working against Gravik even though she didn’t trust her dad, either. And she wasn’t mad about JUST her mother, she listed both her parents to Gravik when she confronted him. She simply did it chronologically, not in order of importance to her. Just a bizarre, funhouse mirror interpretation you’re putting here. I’m sorry, these are deeply unserious complaints. Had you mentioned the plot hole about the radiation for the humans at the compound, fine - there’s probably an answer to that, but the show didn’t show us what it is, so it’s fair to question. But the stuff you listed? Nonsense, man.
@@jasonmarbach Your answers are actually funny to read. The security detail got killed? Seriously that's your explanation? Do you have the slightest idea how the events (visiting of a political figure in foreign country, actions taken by the host country and the embassy of the visiting nation to secure safeguard, actions taken in case of emergencies or threat, etc) occur in real life😑? The host country would have sheilded the hospital like a an iron dome because they might be suspected as the enemy too if something goes wrong on that level, not to mention the mocking and humiliation that would come along in the world politics for not being able to provide a safe visit to a political chief of another country. Why are you getting butthurt? I'm a fan too, but I can't ignore what they did in the last episode. You need to learn to see the difference between criticism and hate. What I gave is a constructive criticism because I actually told what they could have done to make it better.
I liked this series and the finale. I think the reason he didn't shoot is that, skrull or not, Skrull Brody was unarmed and it was about convincing the president with as little viloence as possible. So, shoot only when/if Brody tries first was the plan. My guess is Rhodes has been held by Skrulls since _Civil War._ This show, as all the MCU Disney plus shows have been, and so far are character pieces, which are why they seem so different from the movies. Before said mentioned movies, plot was the through line with mentioned character beats. The shows are about character with plot beats.
While this finale did seem a little rushed, I still enjoyed it. Also, I doubt James Rhodes and Everett Ross were replaced by Skrulls since "Captain America: Civil War". It makes more sense for this to have happened after they appeared in "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" and "Black Panther: Wakanda Forever" respectively.
@themichaelshow6635 have you read the comic the show is based on? I thought the show was pretty decent all around, but I disliked the finale a lot. They could've named the show something else, and I would've been like that was a good show. But them naming it secret invasion and this is what we got?
@@larahedge8960 It’s still had the concept of the comics, what did you expect superheroes running out. Something that they don’t have the budget for. What other thing involved skrulls secretly taking over the world. If you always expect some big az finale you’re always gonna be disappointed
I hope that Rhodey has only been a Skrull since Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I'm thinking he went for an evaluation for his War Machine suit/ Stark Prosthetics, and got taken.Otherwise, I'm gonna be pissed.
I just realized Secret Invasion is the same as Falcon and the Winter soldier. The world treated them differently and didn't notice them, so they they start killing people and kidnap people to start a war, also use a super serum to give them all powers
Although if they should have been a secret invasion, it would be better a saga, and have been in the style of the Avengers animated series. It would have been better and great. But at least it's okay in the Samuel L. Jackson series. To have given better development to his character 👍👍
I didn’t mind, and I’ll go one step further: it’s fucking stupid as hell to have spent ANY length of time watching ANY superhero content and to then be disappointed when the genre gives us exactly what every reasonable person should’ve expected from the jump.
Interesting how everyone saw through Marvel's scriptwriters and correctly guessed that G'iah had disguised herself as Nick Fury. What could you actually call her now? Mega-Skrull? (Or rather Totally Overpowered Being?) 🤔
As someone who enjoyed this show, I honestly think they could of done things a whole lot better. -Like keeping Giah's survival/super-skrull powers a secret until the finale after the 2nd episode; Making Talos' death hit a lot harder since he doesn't get the chance to say that he's sorry. - Not using "Rhodey's" voice over the phone when he was talking to Mrs. Fury about meeting at the church, and having that same Skrull impersonating Gravik in the finale. Or just not revealing it at all for that matter. - Not revealing Gravik's healing powers until Fury shoots him in the face after he stabbed Talos - Removing some of the subjects from the "Harvest" and keeping only the most powerful ones. (Like Groot's and Captain Marvel) And there definitley more things I would have done differently but it is what it is I guess.
@@jonathanhamlet1942Because he's in scrubs, which he was in Civil War. And he couldn't really use his legs which is a result of vision shooting him out of the sky. It makes sense that skurlls were taking over people like Rhodey, to get close to the president and humans.
In some ways, this is the Multiverse Saga’s “Civil War”. With the President basically waging war against all aliens, this will definitely affect how the conflict with Kang plays out … kinda similar to the ramifications of the Civil War affecting the Infinity War with Thanos.
I’m taking some copium and wishing that this show was a set up for the real secret invasion. It started out great and intriguing, but there was little suspense and drama afterwards, and the 35 minutes short finale is a slap to our faces. Still a 7/10
I really want to see more of Sonya Fallsworth (if that's how you spell it) in other things. She doesn't give two shits about anything and shoots a skrull in the head
Tbf, on this part 8:23 Skrulls have already been shown materialising clothes too so I reckon they can do the same with the rings on Ebony's fingers (dont quote me, could be wrong)
This show was good (not perfect, not even amazing, but good) from start to finish, and was occasionally great. The hate it’s getting is absolutely baffling.
I'm sure most of the hate is from the finale, but it's just that, that the finale was underwhelming. I felt like it didn't really fit the rest of the show and felt rushed.
I loved the gritty and grounded tone because it's something the og MCU films would've done. Tony was in a terrorist camp, cap was fighting Nazis, Thor seemingly had to sacrifice a life with Jane to save her but the ending sucked. Nick Fury was put to the side instead of front and center with gaia. I expected him to rescue the hostages while mowing down a bunch of regular skrull loyalists after the reveal but nope. Off screen shots and just talking. After getting his whole "suit" together we just saw him talk in it and that's it.
Lots of logic and plot holes kinda ruined this for me. How does Super Gravik not heal? How do all those people not have severe radiation poisoning from being at the reactor site? How does Gaia have better control over her new powers when Gravik has had more experience? And on and on. You're saying the President of the US is just staying in a run of the mnill TV hospital that is so easily infiltrated? Really? And why take over Rhodes when you could have easily taken over the President, seeing as how Rhodes is by his side all the time. It's the ultimate "idiot plot", and I feel like the showrunner at some point just said " fuck it, it's just a comic book sjow".
This show made the same mistake that Black Widow did. It didn't need the things-falling-from-the-sky finale. It also needed a stronger aesthetic. It's really a noir show. Now imagine that Gravik/Gaia fight in black and white: there's the problem. They ditched the actor playing Gravik at the climax so that wasn't great either.
They needed something to fill these plot holes Maybe showing thunderbolt Ross taking over from ritson to set up Cap 4 How long does and rhodey were there As them just killing world leaders would cause mayhem and if just wasn't cleared up in the slightest
imo, this show should be called something else and made as a prequel to the actual story. after that, a secret invasion movie where avengers were involved. even we disregard the comics, this story should be big considering there's a literal group of extraterrestrial shape-shifting creatures are roaming around the world, most are even bloodthirsty.
This finale was the pure definition of a mixed bag. I enjoyed the Super Skrull battle, but I didn't like how short this episode was. I liked what this show sets up, but I didn't like how VERY noticeable the CGI was. I liked how this episode will bring about a lot of stuff that will call back to this show, but I didn't like how everything was rushed. Overall, I found this show to be quite decent. A little better than the bottom of the MCU Disney Plus shows, but not as great as the stuff that is better than this. Also, all hail our new goddess, G'iah!!! Emilia Clarke earned her paycheck, for sure!!! I STILL don't care what anyone says. I'm still knee-deep in the MCU, and I will continue to be until I'm 6 feet under. I don't care what anybody says, I liked the show. Could it have been better? Oh absolutely, yes. Problems aside, I hope we get a second season. I really do, as I feel like there's more stories to tell. I personally think you could do a Secret Invasion season centered around someone else with Nick Fury hanging around and still focusing on the Skrull plotlines. But, that's just me (and only me, I guess).
i guess skrulls are so good at disguise, they can't even recognize each other. i mean the whole reaction audience knew it was gy'ah before gravik did. 😄
If I remember correctly, they could be unrecognizable in to other Skrulls once they get used to shape shifting. That being said, I think this was a simple case of Gravik allowing his emotions to get the better of him cause if we could see it, it’s safe to say he would’ve had he been under control.
Only thing that making me crazy is If Rhodey is held captive here from civil war then he doesn't know Tony's death Natasha's and king t'challa and captain retired that's gonna make him mad and Sad for us too he's gonna turn bad like shield agent i think this is the story line of armor wars😢
The people talking bout "just shoot Rhodey" don't seem to understand a high tense situation with somebody who is high tense and doesn't know who to trust has a gun in their hands. If she would of shot the skrull Rhodey, more than likely the president would of reacted first before thinking, it would of been a body reaction and would of shot homegirl.
Considering he was wearing a hospital room there's a possibility that he was kidnapped during Civil War and if that's so all my God he doesn't know that Tony Stark is dead and all the things that went down my God that is self really major possibility if that's the truth
Show had so much potential but ended weak. Some good acting from Olivia And Sam and good moments but overall it felt apart. Phase 5 has been weak aside Guardians Vol 3. Only faith I've in The MCU this year is Loki Season 2.
With such a promising premise like "skulls have infiltrated Earth" and the whole "Who can you trust?" Thing, this should have been great, even as a grounded spy thriller. Instead, it turned out to be a boring six hour movie with forgettable characters. Despite having good actors, none of the characters felt interesting to me. Literally only cared about Fury and that's because we knew him already. Every episode was a huge drag with things happening only in the last 5 minute and the finale and their "twists" were unsatisfying. Overall a mediocre show as far as I'm concerned
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Yep. For me, the finale was the show's weakest part. Too rushed, no more espionage feeling, G'iah almost ridicolously powered...but it certainly doesn't earn the hate it gets.
Honestly the show was a bit slow and boring for me but I looked forward to these everytime because the reactions just make it more entertaining lol
@@svenheimes2494 It was rushed, yes. More episodes would have made this work out better. The hate is coming from people who have to hate on something.
I thought it was weird that , in ep 5 Fury says we cant' rely on superheros to save us all the time.. then in ep 6 win by giving Gaia all the superhero/villain powers we ever seen in the MCU.
So instead of avoiding pll like the avengers we get a hero that is exactly like the avengers
fury said people can't rely on existing superheroes every time but I think that doesn't mean we won't create a new one
@Omega_Wins_Redshe has all the powers of everyone! Thor gets wiped by mid villians tfym 😂
The possibility that Rhodey was taken after Civil War and doesn't know that his best friend is now dead is heartbreaking. I really hope that isn't the case. Amazing editing as always, Johnny!
Thanks so much!
Completely destroys everything we knew about Rhodey.
@@jwroot Huh? What about the comic version of this storyline? Wasn't it revealed that many, MANY heroes had actually been Skrulls for YEARS? So why can't the MCU get away with just 1 major character being one?
@@jwrootwhat exactly did we know about rhodey other than he was a friend of tony? This gives the character somewhere to start for his movie. We will get to see that emotion when he finds out and see him grow from everything he's been through. I can't wait. Don cheadle is an amazing actor and he's gonna amaze us with this character in armor wars. 😊
I think that'd be a good launching point for Armor Wars, just start it with Cheadle on an early morning run through DC, ala Winter Soldier or rowing ala Jack Ryan to get the Military Thriller vibe. Then when he gets home, he steps out of the device that helps him walk and struggles to get into a chair and spots a photo of him and Stark which gives him a tinge of vague regret.
The problem is that the finale just gave a whole different vibe from the rest of the grounded show
That final fight was so out of place
That’s what finales do tho
@@Mjsports3730 That’s what marvel finales do tho*
how's that?
I mean, what could they have done that would have made the finale satisfying? I think this was the best case scenario.
The final thoughts from these guys felt more positive then anything I've seen on social media.
"They go to get Rhoadie and its Terrance Howard"
Thats just cold hahahaha
The show ultimately was just okay. I was expecting something much worse considering the reviews but I was entertained, mostly by the performances of Sam Jackson, Olivia Colman, Ben Mendelsohn and Don Cheadle. They pretty much carried the show at times.
One of the harshest things I can say about it? Three Doctor Who episodes from almost a decade ago (Day of the Doctor, Zygon Invasion and Zygon Inversion) did the same story arc for a race of shape shifting aliens hiding on Earth but Doctor Who did the story a lot better.
Oh no, it's so much worse.
@@liamphibia why?
Forgettable and uneventful, really hoping they recon that Rhodey situation
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Too bad, I've never seen the show and didn't care if I got spoiled.
@@MrLachapellthis is more political and it has good fights and plot so i don't understand the hate
Regarding this finale... just like the late Talos said to his wife on the post credit scene for Spiderman: Far From Home, "IT WAS FINE".
I don’t give a damn about anything else... what got me pumped the most towards the end was Sonja recruiting G'iah for a possible Excalibur setup.
G'iah was like, "Im gonna send you back to Barbie." when she beat Gravik.
Yeah this show was the kick off of the whole vigilante & paranoia movement….. Echo, Daredevil, Captain America 4, & Thunderbolts.
I’m excited!
Me too!!
Graviks actin was on another level - loved it
I can't believe how many people say Nick should just shoot Rhodey while the president has a gun on him and would likely just fire at Fury immediately.
Exactly
I'm really surprised no post-credits bit of Rhodey in the hospital talking to someone and going "so, where's Tony?"
I'm sure Pepper Potts will tell him everything.
I really hope he hasn't been a Skrull since Civil War. That would ruin his character, and the impact of him losing his best friend in Endgame.
I like how the writers just blatantly ignored the fact that Ghost's phasing powers are unstable and cause her constant pain. Not to mention that they will eventually kill her and that's why she was so desperate for a cure. Plus half those powers do the exact same thing rendering most of them redundant. I mean Cul Obsidian, Hulk, Abomination, Captain America, Bucky, Drax. All basically the same thing to varying degrees. Hulk alone would have been enough. The rest ain't even necessary in that category.
They're terrible.
I hope we get to see rhodey’s reaction to finding out everything that happened since he’s been in captivity. Him finding out everything that happened is gonna break him. Hope we get to see that in armor wars
*_I sure hope it turns out that G'iah's powers are but temporary and that they will fade out with (a short) time: Because having such an OP character in the MCU is a huge story problem (They should have had her fly herself and Gravik into the sun!)... But since they got Emilia Clarke to play her, I don't see how it can be that they only had her contracted for just being a non-super Skrull (Shame!)_*
I hate that she and gravik had every power. Why write yourself into that corner, she's too op now. The most well known super skrull had 4 powers with every other super skrull copying 1 also could've easily replicated that super skrull with ghost, Korg, extremis, and Groot but we never got the comic accurate look for some reason.
Rey "Skywalker": First time?
It's weird how Gravik was killed by a supercharged photon blast while Captain marvel tanked a powerstone.
Well it mean other than the infinity stones only her power can kill her but i think even Thor or Thanos would have in a bad way or even die from a blast like that and it prove how much Carol is holding back.
You produced these so quickly! Thank you!
"All off world born species as enemies." Does that include the Asguardians and the aliens that came with them during Thor Ragnarok?
Most likely yes.
Sounds like it.
Gravik turning rogue because he felt like Nick Fury abandoned him, like a pet owner abandoning their pet.
I don't get how the Super Skrulls were able to duplicate Hulk's powers because Hulk's powers are based on gamma radiation, and it said that the Skrulls were immune to radiation, so I thought that the Skrulls wouldn't be able to replicate Hulk's powers.
My guess the same way they did in shehulk as they said that the banner family’s dna can absorb and basically synthesize the gamma radiation. So maybe they took banner’s dna and by extension Hulks as well?
The final fight seemed like if someone asked their toddler to script a superhero fight
“EVERY POWER!!!”
Isnt how things in the comics also play out like most of the time. coming from superheroes obviously it will look like this
@@galvinfalconcouldn’t tell you I don’t read comics, but I feel like they could have made the storytelling a little more compelling than a god fight
@@halfpine9952 Sorry about that youre right. but hey I guess they did it just like moonknight. Good series but shitty finale
@@galvinfalconit is tragic 😮💨
Glad the Yaboyroshi clips made it in.
Things that didn't make sense to me in the finale, and I'm saying this as someone who was really excited for the finale :
1. Why would Gravik not kill Fury (she was Gaia, but he didn't know) or attempt to kill him as soon as he gave him the harvest?
2. Did Gaia really counted on Gravik using the machine with her inside so that she could get powers? I mean what if Gravik just said, "Well you gave me the harvest, your purpose is over, and then kills Fury (or Gaia) straight away. That'd have exposed Gaia right away.
Or what if Gravik decided that he would use machine later on, after he imprisoned Fury (again he didn't know she was Gaia).
3. How the fuck Gaia beat Gravik? Gravik had been a figter all his life since he was a kid, he actually knew how to fight unlike Gaia who was important person only cuz she was the daughter of the General of their entire species. He literally fought his way up, and only after that he became Super Skrull. Gaia, on the other hand had no such experience, she didn't know how to fight as much as Gravik. I'm glad she won, but it felt forced. Under no circumstances Gravik was gonna lose to Gaia if both got the powers of the harvest at the same time.
4. I really expected Nick Fury to return as a badass, like he was in the Winter Soldier, and I was so hyped up after he wore back the eyepatch at the end of episode 5, and they lost the chance massively.
5. The show explains that Fury doesn't wants to bring Avengers into this all Skrull invasion case. But they could thave rather explained that he actually couldn't.
Thor, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow were his go-to avengers. All are either lost after the blip and its impact, or gone forever. Spiderman used the spell to wipe everyone's memories so now no one remembers who he is. Captain Marvel is off world and he probably lost the device to contact her when he got blipped away. Wanda is gone too. Hulk might not have been enough here as well as they didn't know who was enemy.
But no, they had to be lazy and instead just say he didn't want to call the Avengers. Like dude you formed the Avengers Initiative, you made the team for the world ending crisis like this, you just can't say you don't want to call them in need. Just say you won't because you can't.
6. The lack of security around President's hospital. He's the president of the United States, and he just got an attempt made on his life, that too aerial, that too seemingly by Russians. There's no way there are that less and that incompetent people surrounding him in the hospital after that. And certainly there's no way Nick Fury is going to enter the hospital with a gun on him after that, even though he said his life cuz protocols.
7. When Gaia said to Gravik "You killed my mother", it was just a bad move by the dialogue writing department. Gaia already knew Gravik killed her mother because her father personally told her, but she didn't believe him then and continued working for Gravik in the initial episodes. Now after Talos is killed, she remembers her mother, bit where are her emotions for her father. There's no way a person whose both parents are killed by the same villain is going to be angry at the villain just for the death of one of the parent. Ahe should have said "You killed my parents". Even saying "You killed my father" would have made much more sense than her saying "You killed my mother" because that was a recent event and she was still grieving from her father's death.
Feel bad for Emilia Clarke though, she again became a part of a show that was going good untill the end.
Sorry for the wall of text, as someone who enjoyed the show for the first five episodes, I was disappointed.
It’s funny how some of them brought comments like this up. One of them even said y’all are gonna complain about it and one of them even said what are y’all expecting at this point. Can’t expect endgame level stuff every time. It’s also funny how a guy just disproved your entire essay
I can answer a few of these but not all cause this finale is confusing asf. And I knew it was gonna be like that in episode 5 when Gravik who had been a step ahead the whole show and was moving smart asf decided to kill his right hand man for asking questions and then call his foot soldiers mindless and face less nobodies as well as doom all his people for a vial of avengers juice.
Answering number 3- Giah used her head she opened up her repertoire of powers. She was using ghosts powers from ant man 2 ( which that opens a whole bunch more questions ) and mantis’ powers as opposed to gravik who specifically kept using the strength based powers mainly. He tried to brute force the battle in an aggressive way and it led to his down fall.
Answer #6 there were plenty of security all around ritson it’s just Nick fury was taking them all out with the tranq gun.
Answering #5 I think the writers got too bogged down in trying to create this grounded show where they didn’t end up relying on the other heroes and it hurt the ending overall.
answer #1: Gravik is very emotional he feels used and abused this whole plan grew from his growing disdain and disengagement with fury. So when fury pulls up he takes the time to vent everything he’s been holding in. The words he’s been saying over and over in his head. Now after he’s done talking I don’t know why he didn’t just murder fury.
I’m currently hoping that when secret wars happens and the multiverse resets to one world that the next 2 sagas mcu does is the Secret saga a secret invasion saga event spanning a phase or 2 and a Civil war saga. Both of these stories are HUGE events that effect so much in the comics and proper fleshed out storylines would be great. They should not have been single solitary films or shows
1. Gravik’s arrogance blinded him. He thought it was actually Nick Fury, and if it had actually been Fury, Fury would have been a dead man the moment he entered the compound. There was no reason for him to rush it.
2. You’re assuming a lot about both Gravik and G’iah here that nothing in the show established about either. Gravik’s arrogance was his downfall, and G’iah was consistently a step ahead of him once she flipped sides. She knew he wouldn’t kill Fury straight away because he wouldn’t see Fury as a threat.
3. Not even sure what you’re talking about with this one. Seems like the same kind of “Mary Sue” misogyny that frequently gets levied unfairly at female characters. G’iah has been training her whole life too, and was so good that she was welcomed into the inner circle with Pagan and the rest of the fighters *even though* her dad was Talos.
4. Did you even watch the episode? Nick Fury, in his seventies, took down an entire troupe of Secret Service agents without even being seen. Then he capped Raava in the face.
5. You not liking a narrative choice does not make it “lazy,” please be serious.
6. The vast majority of the president’s security detail was murdered on a runway hours before this scene happened, and the show addressed this as well…?
7. This is just an astonishingly bad read of what happened. G’iah believed Talos when he told her in Ep 1, she knew he wouldn’t lie about that, and then she went into an alley immediately afterward and *showed you on camera* her reaction to that information. She also immediately flipped, right then, and began working against Gravik even though she didn’t trust her dad, either. And she wasn’t mad about JUST her mother, she listed both her parents to Gravik when she confronted him. She simply did it chronologically, not in order of importance to her. Just a bizarre, funhouse mirror interpretation you’re putting here.
I’m sorry, these are deeply unserious complaints. Had you mentioned the plot hole about the radiation for the humans at the compound, fine - there’s probably an answer to that, but the show didn’t show us what it is, so it’s fair to question. But the stuff you listed? Nonsense, man.
@@jasonmarbach Your answers are actually funny to read. The security detail got killed? Seriously that's your explanation? Do you have the slightest idea how the events (visiting of a political figure in foreign country, actions taken by the host country and the embassy of the visiting nation to secure safeguard, actions taken in case of emergencies or threat, etc) occur in real life😑? The host country would have sheilded the hospital like a an iron dome because they might be suspected as the enemy too if something goes wrong on that level, not to mention the mocking and humiliation that would come along in the world politics for not being able to provide a safe visit to a political chief of another country.
Why are you getting butthurt? I'm a fan too, but I can't ignore what they did in the last episode. You need to learn to see the difference between criticism and hate. What I gave is a constructive criticism because I actually told what they could have done to make it better.
Dumbest season finale ever really😂😂
Thank you for the edition!!
When Roshi said “You niggas all have cancer” I died laughing. 😂😂
Oyeah! Been waiting for this one
I liked this series and the finale.
I think the reason he didn't shoot is that, skrull or not, Skrull Brody was unarmed and it was about convincing the president with as little viloence as possible. So, shoot only when/if Brody tries first was the plan.
My guess is Rhodes has been held by Skrulls since _Civil War._
This show, as all the MCU Disney plus shows have been, and so far are character pieces, which are why they seem so different from the movies. Before said mentioned movies, plot was the through line with mentioned character beats. The shows are about character with plot beats.
Bro that's so sad that it's been since Civil War. Like he has no idea that Tony is dead!
@@NovaStorm0506 Its also just a guess at this point.
The show failed all of this wirh flying colors
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609Because they rushed it instead of slowed it.
I sure hope they explain the rest of this Skrulls issue in future MCU films.
thanks for the add jdub! loved this show! Loved the finale!
Me too! I just don’t understand why people are hating on it too much, just like all the other marvel studios shows and movies they didn’t like?
While this finale did seem a little rushed, I still enjoyed it. Also, I doubt James Rhodes and Everett Ross were replaced by Skrulls since "Captain America: Civil War". It makes more sense for this to have happened after they appeared in "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier" and "Black Panther: Wakanda Forever" respectively.
i was disappointed that wasn't terrence howard being pulled out of the skrull compound at the end. 😄
Even though the finale was such a disappointment, I'm still excited to watch your reaction 😁
Put all expectations into reality, you'll never be disappointed. Exactly what I did, so I'd never be disappointed.
Y’all can never be happy with anything or y’all are just too scared to admit that you like something
@@wickdaline8668 great advice
@themichaelshow6635 have you read the comic the show is based on? I thought the show was pretty decent all around, but I disliked the finale a lot. They could've named the show something else, and I would've been like that was a good show. But them naming it secret invasion and this is what we got?
@@larahedge8960 It’s still had the concept of the comics, what did you expect superheroes running out. Something that they don’t have the budget for. What other thing involved skrulls secretly taking over the world. If you always expect some big az finale you’re always gonna be disappointed
Thank you for another reaction mashup!!
"whatchu gonna do with Sam Wilson's DNA? turn into a black man?" She has a point. lol!
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Thank you guys.
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You sound just like the series director, Ali Selim. Who said Marvel fans have too many expectations.
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Another amazing video
I hope that Rhodey has only been a Skrull since Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I'm thinking he went for an evaluation for his War Machine suit/ Stark Prosthetics, and got taken.Otherwise, I'm gonna be pissed.
I just realized Secret Invasion is the same as Falcon and the Winter soldier. The world treated them differently and didn't notice them, so they they start killing people and kidnap people to start a war, also use a super serum to give them all powers
Although if they should have been a secret invasion, it would be better a saga, and have been in the style of the Avengers animated series. It would have been better and great. But at least it's okay in the Samuel L. Jackson series. To have given better development to his character 👍👍
Secret Invasion would’ve just been better as a SAGA
Expect disappointment and you'll never be disappointed.
-Me going in any marvel content from now on
Okay.
What you doin with sam’s DNA…turn into a black man!?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I screamed 🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
If anyone doesn't mind the run of the mill CGI super skrull fight, please reply.
I didn’t mind, and I’ll go one step further: it’s fucking stupid as hell to have spent ANY length of time watching ANY superhero content and to then be disappointed when the genre gives us exactly what every reasonable person should’ve expected from the jump.
@@jasonmarbach Now we're talking!
Interesting how everyone saw through Marvel's scriptwriters and correctly guessed that G'iah had disguised herself as Nick Fury.
What could you actually call her now? Mega-Skrull? (Or rather Totally Overpowered Being?) 🤔
After G'iah said "You've killed my mother. You've killed my father", she should have said 'Dracarys!'
Fury hitting that Skrussy
Honestly, I would've rather had it be revealed that Fury is a skrull and have him takedown Gravik.
As someone who enjoyed this show, I honestly think they could of done things a whole lot better.
-Like keeping Giah's survival/super-skrull powers a secret until the finale after the 2nd episode; Making Talos' death hit a lot harder since he doesn't get the chance to say that he's sorry.
- Not using "Rhodey's" voice over the phone when he was talking to Mrs. Fury about meeting at the church, and having that same Skrull impersonating Gravik in the finale. Or just not revealing it at all for that matter.
- Not revealing Gravik's healing powers until Fury shoots him in the face after he stabbed Talos
- Removing some of the subjects from the "Harvest" and keeping only the most powerful ones. (Like Groot's and Captain Marvel)
And there definitley more things I would have done differently but it is what it is I guess.
I never realized at first but when the real fury enters you can see he actually is shooting darts at them.
Everyone asking how long Rhodey's been captured.
People been saying since civil war
Which I don't understand but a lot of people are saying that he was captured then
@@jonathanhamlet1942Because he's in scrubs, which he was in Civil War. And he couldn't really use his legs which is a result of vision shooting him out of the sky. It makes sense that skurlls were taking over people like Rhodey, to get close to the president and humans.
The real Rhodey should be dead by now considering he’s been just casually laying in the most radioactive place on earth for ages
In some ways, this is the Multiverse Saga’s “Civil War”. With the President basically waging war against all aliens, this will definitely affect how the conflict with Kang plays out … kinda similar to the ramifications of the Civil War affecting the Infinity War with Thanos.
Rhodey still had on the hospital garments when Tony stark had him get a cat scan at the end of Civil War
I can’t believe a skull killed ken
G'iah became Ben10.
Heard of "Jungle Fever".....well, this one is "Space Fever"
If Nick Fury died sometime back and was a Skrull or got powers That would have been cool! But Marvel is hasn't been that risky, lately.
I feel like G’iah becoming a super Skrull was forced.
Truly.
Ritson gets impeached and Ross here in office
7:24 now it’s a flex off!!!
I’m taking some copium and wishing that this show was a set up for the real secret invasion. It started out great and intriguing, but there was little suspense and drama afterwards, and the 35 minutes short finale is a slap to our faces. Still a 7/10
The dialogue carried this show. Fury, Talos, Gravik, and Sonya. But the plot left a bit to be desired.
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I really want to see more of Sonya Fallsworth (if that's how you spell it) in other things. She doesn't give two shits about anything and shoots a skrull in the head
Tbf, on this part 8:23 Skrulls have already been shown materialising clothes too so I reckon they can do the same with the rings on Ebony's fingers (dont quote me, could be wrong)
This show was good (not perfect, not even amazing, but good) from start to finish, and was occasionally great. The hate it’s getting is absolutely baffling.
I'm sure most of the hate is from the finale, but it's just that, that the finale was underwhelming. I felt like it didn't really fit the rest of the show and felt rushed.
Mcu “fans” will hate anything at this point since they expect so many cameos that they don’t have a budget for
I loved the gritty and grounded tone because it's something the og MCU films would've done. Tony was in a terrorist camp, cap was fighting Nazis, Thor seemingly had to sacrifice a life with Jane to save her but the ending sucked. Nick Fury was put to the side instead of front and center with gaia. I expected him to rescue the hostages while mowing down a bunch of regular skrull loyalists after the reveal but nope. Off screen shots and just talking. After getting his whole "suit" together we just saw him talk in it and that's it.
This show is objectively bad, a few action scenes doesn’t make up for it
@@Tranquility._ Another mcu “fan” that can’t accept that someone liked a show that you didn’t like
Have got one two questions
1. How did fury got the frost giant DNA 🧬
2. And how long did the skrulls they have Rhodey
Everyone captured had good clothing on while our guy Rhodey was probably butt ass naked in hospital scrubs since presumably Civil War😭
" the radiations will grow his eyes back.."😂😂
I'm still wondering why Fury didn't send Skrulls to the planet Titan. It was a livable place, right?
Gi'ah is now official the STRONGEST AVENGER!
Yeah... And that's a bad thing.😬
that outro song tho 🔥🔥
I swear as soon as they killed Maria Hill I was like nope I no longer watching.
Lots of logic and plot holes kinda ruined this for me. How does Super Gravik not heal? How do all those people not have severe radiation poisoning from being at the reactor site? How does Gaia have better control over her new powers when Gravik has had more experience? And on and on. You're saying the President of the US is just staying in a run of the mnill TV hospital that is so easily infiltrated? Really? And why take over Rhodes when you could have easily taken over the President, seeing as how Rhodes is by his side all the time. It's the ultimate "idiot plot", and I feel like the showrunner at some point just said " fuck it, it's just a comic book sjow".
This show made the same mistake that Black Widow did. It didn't need the things-falling-from-the-sky finale. It also needed a stronger aesthetic. It's really a noir show. Now imagine that Gravik/Gaia fight in black and white: there's the problem.
They ditched the actor playing Gravik at the climax so that wasn't great either.
Andor is worth seeing and worth getting excited over than this.
How the captured people in gravik's base aren't dying by radiation?
Johnnyyyyyyy so much secret invasion no peacemaker finale😭😭
Top 10 Marvel fight scenes in my opinion
They needed something to fill these plot holes
Maybe showing thunderbolt Ross taking over from ritson to set up Cap 4
How long does and rhodey were there
As them just killing world leaders would cause mayhem and if just wasn't cleared up in the slightest
The guy who played Thunderbolt Ross has already passed away.
imo, this show should be called something else and made as a prequel to the actual story. after that, a secret invasion movie where avengers were involved. even we disregard the comics, this story should be big considering there's a literal group of extraterrestrial shape-shifting creatures are roaming around the world, most are even bloodthirsty.
This finale was the pure definition of a mixed bag.
I enjoyed the Super Skrull battle, but I didn't like how short this episode was. I liked what this show sets up, but I didn't like how VERY noticeable the CGI was. I liked how this episode will bring about a lot of stuff that will call back to this show, but I didn't like how everything was rushed.
Overall, I found this show to be quite decent. A little better than the bottom of the MCU Disney Plus shows, but not as great as the stuff that is better than this.
Also, all hail our new goddess, G'iah!!! Emilia Clarke earned her paycheck, for sure!!!
I STILL don't care what anyone says. I'm still knee-deep in the MCU, and I will continue to be until I'm 6 feet under.
I don't care what anybody says, I liked the show. Could it have been better? Oh absolutely, yes.
Problems aside, I hope we get a second season. I really do, as I feel like there's more stories to tell.
I personally think you could do a Secret Invasion season centered around someone else with Nick Fury hanging around and still focusing on the Skrull plotlines.
But, that's just me (and only me, I guess).
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1:58 Technically "He" did turn into the Hulk.
I was hoping for a season 2 so we could meet Queen Varanke, or something.
i guess skrulls are so good at disguise, they can't even recognize each other. i mean the whole reaction audience knew it was gy'ah before gravik did. 😄
If I remember correctly, they could be unrecognizable in to other Skrulls once they get used to shape shifting.
That being said, I think this was a simple case of Gravik allowing his emotions to get the better of him cause if we could see it, it’s safe to say he would’ve had he been under control.
0:19 "NXGGAWHAT" you mfs made me drop a perfectly good taco 😂
17:14 :"what do you do with Sams DNA?Turn into a black man?"
Nope.get broke.😁
I didn't even think about all the humans being exposed to radiation after being released until I watched this video...that show was so bad🤣🤣🤣🤣
Only thing that making me crazy is If Rhodey is held captive here from civil war then he doesn't know Tony's death Natasha's and king t'challa and captain retired that's gonna make him mad and Sad for us too he's gonna turn bad like shield agent i think this is the story line of armor wars😢
15:41 me every fucking episode as i lose my fucking MIND🤣🤣
The people talking bout "just shoot Rhodey" don't seem to understand a high tense situation with somebody who is high tense and doesn't know who to trust has a gun in their hands. If she would of shot the skrull Rhodey, more than likely the president would of reacted first before thinking, it would of been a body reaction and would of shot homegirl.
Considering he was wearing a hospital room there's a possibility that he was kidnapped during Civil War and if that's so all my God he doesn't know that Tony Stark is dead and all the things that went down my God that is self really major possibility if that's the truth
too lazy to watch the series, thank god for this channel ^___^
If they really wanted to freak us out, they should have brought back Terence Howard as Rhodey and say he's been missing since Iron Man 1! 😀
Show had so much potential but ended weak. Some good acting from Olivia And Sam and good moments but overall it felt apart. Phase 5 has been weak aside Guardians Vol 3. Only faith I've in The MCU this year is Loki Season 2.
With such a promising premise like "skulls have infiltrated Earth" and the whole "Who can you trust?" Thing, this should have been great, even as a grounded spy thriller. Instead, it turned out to be a boring six hour movie with forgettable characters. Despite having good actors, none of the characters felt interesting to me. Literally only cared about Fury and that's because we knew him already. Every episode was a huge drag with things happening only in the last 5 minute and the finale and their "twists" were unsatisfying. Overall a mediocre show as far as I'm concerned
How were the Skrulls able to nab Rhodey, but not the president?
If Rhodey was taken after Civil war then the Skrull had to have fought in Infinity war as well