I think the machine in Nocturne makes the night creatures using souls from the living as a form of torment. It’s not like the usual method of forging, so there’s gotta be a reason why they turn out that way. Be interesting to learn who made the machine.
story tell it is from hell cannot make by human and cannot destroy by human it a trade with a demon must be one powerful demon as Oltrox ask him once which demon do you made contact
Yes as it was stated. But we have to learn what pact did the abbot made and of course the price he or someone will have to pay for the deal. But other than that I think that the night creatures in Nocturne should be a fodder. Nothing more. If it was a powerful demon that protected the machine I would say probably Lucifer. We will see. In any case he made a shitty job. If it would be me I send a guardian like a a Dullahan Prime. Where he would watch over the Night creatures there and tear their soul from their bodies (it would make him stronger) + they would not have any semblance or memories. But alas this show was dissapointing except for Alucard. Other than that it has a lot of bullshit woke things. Should be almost called Wokevania.
This is my own theory that puts Isaac and Hector at the core of the Machine’s creation, as they inevitably sold their humanity to become demons/Lesser Lords of Chaos and purposefully incorporated a sense of empathy to give humanity a chance of defeating them as opposed to the massive strength they posed in the original Castlevania series.
Memories are tied to the length of time the soul spent in hell. Edouard was dead for a more days at most before his body was placed in the Creepy Crawler Thing Maker. Emanueru doesn’t seem to have the same control over the forging process that Issac & Hector demonstrated. My guess is that Edouards return as a night creature maintaining his memories while horrific as removes his previous physical weaknesses & imbues his singing with magic. Where before he was the only character that didn’t have much martial skill or magical abilities in the party. Edit: Issac set the precedent in S2 E8 when he kills the group at the oasis & brings the leader back to drag across the desert.
I like this idea; for me, the only conflict with this is the Night Creature that Isaac spoke with in the first Castlevania series. Perhaps it's the soul's memories plus their intellect that creates unique Night Creatures. The creature with Isaac could talk and was able to recall that, before he died, he was basically a Philosopher from ancient Greece. Philosophers in those times were considered very intelligent ppl, like Doctors or Professors. I think Edouard's uniqueness could be due to him being an intelligent and sensitive man, coupled with not being dead for very long; that's why he's much more than Isaac's talking Creature.
@@ZombicidalMadMom81 right Flyeyes was a Greek philosopher put to death by Christian after lying & betraying others. He could barely remember his past life & only did so because at Issac‘s request. Furthermore he questions Issac about their actions believing that it goes against a night creatures nature of killing, destroying & despoiling everything.
Hector and Isaac used their own magic to make night creatures, while the Abbot uses a machine, while Hector and Isaac used random souls on hell to make their creatures, using bodies only as vessels, the machine uses the soul that inhabited the body to make their creatures, the machine might have some limitations by the fact it is a machine
@@Edujs23 I’ve been wondering about just that. Hector & Issac deliberately forged their their tools & night creatures. The Abbot on the other hand went to hell’s Rent-A-Center & went with the Creepy Crawler Thing Maker with the set it & forget it upgrade. The Abbot has his “cook book” but it’s unclear if he’s deliberately or subconsciously forging. Being a man of the cloth, the Abbot, could be leaning more faithfully in his process. See it only as a means to an end & whatever comes out is what is needed. The Reign of Terror must be in full swing for the Abbot to reach out to hell for assistance. Better the devil you know than the revolutionaries taking heads.
@@ZombicidalMadMom81Yeah, the machine is crafted by hell, while with a human touch and their own spiritual power, they draw on divine magic to pull souls out of hell.
There is something lacking in the abbot’s machine that gives him imperfect night creatures. Probably the human element of forging, as in hector and Isaac forged them by hand rather than machine.
This video makes me realize that Reverend Emmanuel sometimes fails to make Night Creatures, and just enslaves the dead in their own transmogrified body instead, because he’s motivated by the desire to damn those he deems sinful more than anything else. He didn’t consciously voodoo zombie Ed and Jacques, but subconsciously he thinks men like them need to be put in their place, so that’s what happened. Emmanuel really is the worst.
Emmanuel's forgemastering completely backfired on himself. Isaac and Hector's night creatures' souls were from hell and it gave them a sense of loyalty since they were pulled from their damnation. In contrast, some of Emmanuel's night creatures have the same soul, allowing them to remember what happened to their lives prior to becoming a night creature. This gives them independence since they clearly remember their human lives
Emmanuel is a piece of shit but he's definitely gonna end up sacrificing himself for Maria and redeeming himself in the process. Whoever the demon is that he made a contract with probably sees this coming too
@@tuckernutter he probably damns himself to Hell in this sacrifice, or at least to Limbo (1st Circle of Inferno's Hell). And the demon is probably the Mummy. This is setting up Dracula vs the Mummy. The French Revolution (Napoleon) inspired an Egyptology Craze in European Nobles, complete with eating mummies. And if Haiti is in Revolution, Bonaparte I is in Egypt, sending a massive amount of puff pieces about it back to Europe.
@saint2157 I just love Issac so much, but there's alot of unexplored time and character that can be used in the future for ALOT of different things so I hope season 2 of castlevania nocturne will be better than the first and live up to the og Netflix series
I theorize that the abbot is actually NOT a forgemaster. Indicative of the fact that he needed to strike a bargain with a demon to even acquire the means to create nightcreatures in the first place. And I think this is one of the reasons his method of creating them is so flawed when compared to natural born forgemasters.
I think the creatures are the same as the original series buts in Edwards case he is such a special soul he remains intact. He seems to be able to reach the inner souls of the other night creatures. I believe the better a person you where the easier u are to reach. In the OG series Issac had a insect night creature who gained memories thru Issac encouragement.
Calling Castlevania Nocturne a "spinoff" feels so wrong, call it what it is; a sequel series. Its a continuation, not an alternate story set in the same timeline of the first series.
@@Ninjaananas really i don't recall Annette being black & pushing the stupid BLM b.s back in the 90s or the french revolution who gets ignored any way to push a stupid but i was a black slave b.s . but when William (April) Ellison dose it its all good .
Ya know, I guess it makes sense why the night creatures at least made this forgemaster doesn’t seem perfect because it’s a machine, though I hope a more stronger or experienced forgemaster shows up to help make more conflict, I like nocturne but I feel it lacks something, Richter hasn’t done magic since he was a kid and now he suddenly has perfect control over his magic and it’s been hella buffed despite not training in it, like Sypha (forgot how to spell her name) was barely half this strong and she had more experience, could be Belmont genes or the lazy he’s the mc, personally got a bit more issues but this one just bugs me
I just want to toss this out there for anyone who is meant to see this.... The night creatures look like biblically accurate angels. Then in Nocturne, we see a priest creating night creatures for a false vampire messiah. When we know that the REAL vampire messiah is Alucard. Hes the only vampire that can absorb the sun. Literally. Not by blocking out the sun, but by Literally being able to go into sunlight without dying. Hes the "True" vampire Messiah.
We actually don't know that Hector can't use decayed bodies. He likely just takes advantage of what's available. In the series he fought mostly living humans, so that's what he used to make new night creatures.
It was always a surprise what kind of creatures would show up. Some looking somewhat familiar but many having very unique and bizarre designs. They could easily been faceless throwaway antagonists yet they are individuals. I especially like the talking fly creature who spoke with Isaac. It showed the creatures can still be very human-like. It made me feel sorry for the creatures that are unable to talk due to their new anatomy.
The Night Creatures remind me *_a lot_* of the Szlachta and the Vozhd from _Vampire: The Masquerade._ Essentially they are creatures made out of the Human familiars of Clan Tzimisce (the most terrifying clan in that story setting in my opinion!).
What I find cool about the night creatures in Nocturne, is that they look more human than monster, with some that have a face that looks like their wearing Venetian masks, that's both cool, and terrifying.
My first thought was because head a man of god his creatures turned out that way. The other two forge masters we met were very different and broken people. When Issac was on his journey and “healing”/ finding purpose he made the fly guy who could talk and had memories. Even tho he was still loyal to him he was different. Which to me says it’s not only the goals the forge masters have for them but also who the forge is. Because the demon might have given him the machine, but the abbot is who’s actually making the creatures his “magic”
when you were speeking of the forge msters u forgot that random old woman that isac met in a emty willage before the magicly enslaved town, we didn't see her tool or proces but she did show the fact that she was and possibly still is a forge master
honestly i glad some people enjoy "new" castlevania but for this old fan this doesnt cut, and since koji igarashi left and konami is a bunch of yakuza like jerks, a new game is crossed from any potential future.
I have think about that since Keith David was announced as the new voice actor for Zavala. If Disney wants to remove their curse they’re gonna need bring some Scottish aesthetic above the clouds ☁️
I thought he also was more adept with it as well. I guess due to Trevor being more experienced with it since night creatures and vampires were more frequent during his time.
@@Terry.sd_Whittle curious, why do you think that is the rule as it is? “Vampires” being believed as generally superior to humans in most physical aspects, aside from sunlight.. you’d think theyd be right at home in hell, yet it’s inaccessible or inescapable for them..
15:39 and this contradicts the big part of a well establish lore + its just lazy writing we call it plot connivance also his singing give me a migraine if i was a nigh creation i will kill him on the spot .
Night Creatures (n): Netflixvania's lazy attempt from the imagination lacking writers at adapting the vibrant bestiary of classic Castlevania by running with a plot device that really wasn't used that much since Curse of Darkness.
I’m assuming it’s because Isaac and hector had an actual connection in forging their night creatures while the abbot uses a machine he doesn’t actually do any forging
@yeayea8226 my thoughts as well all the night creators souls from hell. Bodies grafted a different soul from hell. Didn't understand way the same souls morphed their own body?
@@yeayea8226 someone in the comment section already said it but I agree with their statement: Hector and Isaac personally crafted each night creature with their own tools...they most likely created "perfect night creatures" where the body is just used to install a new soul ( a sinner from hell ) into them ... the machine probably lakes this perfection because it needs actively a human hand...this would mean that the machine doesn't use the souls of condemned sinners to create night creatures but the actual soul of the person the body originally belonged to...this would mean that not all of them were supposed to go to hell...some of them, like Edouard, were most likely supposed to go to heaven after their death but the machine prevented this...that's why the night creatures aren't as obedient as before and are more likely to remember their previous life because their not made from condemned souls
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I think the machine in Nocturne makes the night creatures using souls from the living as a form of torment. It’s not like the usual method of forging, so there’s gotta be a reason why they turn out that way. Be interesting to learn who made the machine.
story tell it is from hell cannot make by human and cannot destroy by human it a trade with a demon must be one powerful demon as Oltrox ask him once which demon do you made contact
Yes as it was stated. But we have to learn what pact did the abbot made and of course the price he or someone will have to pay for the deal. But other than that I think that the night creatures in Nocturne should be a fodder. Nothing more. If it was a powerful demon that protected the machine I would say probably Lucifer. We will see. In any case he made a shitty job. If it would be me I send a guardian like a a Dullahan Prime. Where he would watch over the Night creatures there and tear their soul from their bodies (it would make him stronger) + they would not have any semblance or memories. But alas this show was dissapointing except for Alucard. Other than that it has a lot of bullshit woke things. Should be almost called Wokevania.
@@ivandobias7741 i hope it is not Lucifer but it 70 percent to be him
This is my own theory that puts Isaac and Hector at the core of the Machine’s creation, as they inevitably sold their humanity to become demons/Lesser Lords of Chaos and purposefully incorporated a sense of empathy to give humanity a chance of defeating them as opposed to the massive strength they posed in the original Castlevania series.
@aden9160 no the first series ending already lets us know them to been purified and most likely arent in hell
Memories are tied to the length of time the soul spent in hell. Edouard was dead for a more days at most before his body was placed in the Creepy Crawler Thing Maker. Emanueru doesn’t seem to have the same control over the forging process that Issac & Hector demonstrated. My guess is that Edouards return as a night creature maintaining his memories while horrific as removes his previous physical weaknesses & imbues his singing with magic. Where before he was the only character that didn’t have much martial skill or magical abilities in the party.
Edit: Issac set the precedent in S2 E8 when he kills the group at the oasis & brings the leader back to drag across the desert.
I like this idea; for me, the only conflict with this is the Night Creature that Isaac spoke with in the first Castlevania series. Perhaps it's the soul's memories plus their intellect that creates unique Night Creatures. The creature with Isaac could talk and was able to recall that, before he died, he was basically a Philosopher from ancient Greece. Philosophers in those times were considered very intelligent ppl, like Doctors or Professors.
I think Edouard's uniqueness could be due to him being an intelligent and sensitive man, coupled with not being dead for very long; that's why he's much more than Isaac's talking Creature.
@@ZombicidalMadMom81 right Flyeyes was a Greek philosopher put to death by Christian after lying & betraying others. He could barely remember his past life & only did so because at Issac‘s request. Furthermore he questions Issac about their actions believing that it goes against a night creatures nature of killing, destroying & despoiling everything.
Hector and Isaac used their own magic to make night creatures, while the Abbot uses a machine, while Hector and Isaac used random souls on hell to make their creatures, using bodies only as vessels, the machine uses the soul that inhabited the body to make their creatures, the machine might have some limitations by the fact it is a machine
@@Edujs23 I’ve been wondering about just that. Hector & Issac deliberately forged their their tools & night creatures. The Abbot on the other hand went to hell’s Rent-A-Center & went with the Creepy Crawler Thing Maker with the set it & forget it upgrade. The Abbot has his “cook book” but it’s unclear if he’s deliberately or subconsciously forging. Being a man of the cloth, the Abbot, could be leaning more faithfully in his process. See it only as a means to an end & whatever comes out is what is needed. The Reign of Terror must be in full swing for the Abbot to reach out to hell for assistance. Better the devil you know than the revolutionaries taking heads.
@@ZombicidalMadMom81Yeah, the machine is crafted by hell, while with a human touch and their own spiritual power, they draw on divine magic to pull souls out of hell.
There is something lacking in the abbot’s machine that gives him imperfect night creatures. Probably the human element of forging, as in hector and Isaac forged them by hand rather than machine.
Yes it's probably why most of the night creatures including Eduard are more prone to betray their master.
AI art generators commentary?! Unlikely but ig... slim possibility?
This video makes me realize that Reverend Emmanuel sometimes fails to make Night Creatures, and just enslaves the dead in their own transmogrified body instead, because he’s motivated by the desire to damn those he deems sinful more than anything else. He didn’t consciously voodoo zombie Ed and Jacques, but subconsciously he thinks men like them need to be put in their place, so that’s what happened. Emmanuel really is the worst.
Emmanuel's forgemastering completely backfired on himself.
Isaac and Hector's night creatures' souls were from hell and it gave them a sense of loyalty since they were pulled from their damnation.
In contrast, some of Emmanuel's night creatures have the same soul, allowing them to remember what happened to their lives prior to becoming a night creature. This gives them independence since they clearly remember their human lives
Emmanuel is a piece of shit but he's definitely gonna end up sacrificing himself for Maria and redeeming himself in the process.
Whoever the demon is that he made a contract with probably sees this coming too
@@tuckernutter he probably damns himself to Hell in this sacrifice, or at least to Limbo (1st Circle of Inferno's Hell). And the demon is probably the Mummy. This is setting up Dracula vs the Mummy.
The French Revolution (Napoleon) inspired an Egyptology Craze in European Nobles, complete with eating mummies. And if Haiti is in Revolution, Bonaparte I is in Egypt, sending a massive amount of puff pieces about it back to Europe.
I want a solo Issac series so bad on Netflix
Same . I would love to see them explore the Castlevania universe as much as possible.
@saint2157 I just love Issac so much, but there's alot of unexplored time and character that can be used in the future for ALOT of different things so I hope season 2 of castlevania nocturne will be better than the first and live up to the og Netflix series
This is my favorite version of all these monsters, it’s like the perfect army for a medieval fantasy Dark Lord
Seconded!
I theorize that the abbot is actually NOT a forgemaster. Indicative of the fact that he needed to strike a bargain with a demon to even acquire the means to create nightcreatures in the first place. And I think this is one of the reasons his method of creating them is so flawed when compared to natural born forgemasters.
I believe that the Night Creatures in Castlevania: Nocturne by Edouard's own free will will join the good side.
Or become their own faction as Edouard’s is already reflecting on his past life experiences in regards to slavery and bondage
or they will choose take/make choice of walking of the conflict and find some another way of living
I think they'll become the new problem like the reapers were in Blade 2. That would make for a fun new show idea 🎉
I think the creatures are the same as the original series buts in Edwards case he is such a special soul he remains intact. He seems to be able to reach the inner souls of the other night creatures. I believe the better a person you where the easier u are to reach. In the OG series Issac had a insect night creature who gained memories thru Issac encouragement.
Calling Castlevania Nocturne a "spinoff" feels so wrong, call it what it is; a sequel series. Its a continuation, not an alternate story set in the same timeline of the first series.
It is a spin-off of the game canon.
Facts
@@Ninjaananas really i don't recall Annette being black & pushing the stupid BLM b.s back in the 90s or the french revolution who gets ignored any way to push a stupid but i was a black slave b.s .
but when William (April) Ellison dose it its all good .
@@johngreen2665 the only fact so far its that you clowns are freaking fake Castlevania fans .
Ya know, I guess it makes sense why the night creatures at least made this forgemaster doesn’t seem perfect because it’s a machine, though I hope a more stronger or experienced forgemaster shows up to help make more conflict, I like nocturne but I feel it lacks something, Richter hasn’t done magic since he was a kid and now he suddenly has perfect control over his magic and it’s been hella buffed despite not training in it, like Sypha (forgot how to spell her name) was barely half this strong and she had more experience, could be Belmont genes or the lazy he’s the mc, personally got a bit more issues but this one just bugs me
I just want to toss this out there for anyone who is meant to see this....
The night creatures look like biblically accurate angels.
Then in Nocturne, we see a priest creating night creatures for a false vampire messiah.
When we know that the REAL vampire messiah is Alucard. Hes the only vampire that can absorb the sun. Literally. Not by blocking out the sun, but by Literally being able to go into sunlight without dying.
Hes the "True" vampire Messiah.
We actually don't know that Hector can't use decayed bodies. He likely just takes advantage of what's available. In the series he fought mostly living humans, so that's what he used to make new night creatures.
It was always a surprise what kind of creatures would show up. Some looking somewhat familiar but many having very unique and bizarre designs. They could easily been faceless throwaway antagonists yet they are individuals. I especially like the talking fly creature who spoke with Isaac. It showed the creatures can still be very human-like. It made me feel sorry for the creatures that are unable to talk due to their new anatomy.
This is my new fave channel. Marvelous is putting out nothing but content I wanna watch. Are we family?
We ride to together, we die together, Bad Boys For Life :)
Many thanks for another excellent video 👍
Man, I remember playing the first one and reading about part two in Nintendo Power and later renting it from the local rental store. Damn I feel old😅
The Night Creatures remind me *_a lot_* of the Szlachta and the Vozhd from _Vampire: The Masquerade._
Essentially they are creatures made out of the Human familiars of Clan Tzimisce (the most terrifying clan in that story setting in my opinion!).
What I find cool about the night creatures in Nocturne, is that they look more human than monster, with some that have a face that looks like their wearing Venetian masks, that's both cool, and terrifying.
Really a great series expecially the last one
i was like “who the hell is edward?!!” wasnt it Eduar??
My first thought was because head a man of god his creatures turned out that way. The other two forge masters we met were very different and broken people. When Issac was on his journey and “healing”/ finding purpose he made the fly guy who could talk and had memories. Even tho he was still loyal to him he was different. Which to me says it’s not only the goals the forge masters have for them but also who the forge is. Because the demon might have given him the machine, but the abbot is who’s actually making the creatures his “magic”
Isac night creature that flew was legit
issac its a hypocrite and a merry sue him self .
@@LORDSofCHAOS333 what
when you were speeking of the forge msters u forgot that random old woman that isac met in a emty willage before the magicly enslaved town, we didn't see her tool or proces but she did show the fact that she was and possibly still is a forge master
honestly i glad some people enjoy "new" castlevania but for this old fan this doesnt cut, and since koji igarashi left and konami is a bunch of yakuza like jerks, a new game is crossed from any potential future.
Poor things
Maybe these are the people that will bring us a live version of gargoyles we can only hope and pray
I have think about that since Keith David was announced as the new voice actor for Zavala. If Disney wants to remove their curse they’re gonna need bring some Scottish aesthetic above the clouds ☁️
That would be awesome if they did
Trevors whip looks better than rits...
I thought he also was more adept with it as well. I guess due to Trevor being more experienced with it since night creatures and vampires were more frequent during his time.
If Dracula had turned Hector and Isaac, would they loose their forgemaster skills?
Probably. Taking the word of the big bad from S4; only humans have the power to reach into hell. Dracula couldn't do it in S1-2, nor could Carmilla.
@@Terry.sd_Whittle curious, why do you think that is the rule as it is? “Vampires” being believed as generally superior to humans in most physical aspects, aside from sunlight.. you’d think theyd be right at home in hell, yet it’s inaccessible or inescapable for them..
Yeah.
God the monsters look great
its mid at best .
@@LORDSofCHAOS333 I loved it
@@LORDSofCHAOS333 damn what are your standards lovecraftian? There is like thousands of them not everyone us gonna have an amazing design
😂 I Just got a crazy though what Are The odds That Edouard Will Hook up with Medusa
What about Miranda?
There based of berserk apostles
yeah but more lamer
@@LORDSofCHAOS333 agreed
Are they stronger than vampires?
Regular vampire troops? Yeah it seems so but not any named ones
15:39 and this contradicts the big part of a well establish lore + its just lazy writing we call it plot connivance also his singing give me a migraine if i was a nigh creation i will kill him on the spot .
You forgot about the one that was a wolf your little sore every single one except one the one who was a wolf I didn't watch the game series
They replacdd the hot vampire beauties like carmilla and leonere even the striga with cardi b who likes a malnourished guy why why.
It’s never that serious and Carmilla is far from hot. She reminds me of Jeffrey Star
@@huldah1605 lenore it's atleast hot and also the Asian vampire
Night Creatures (n): Netflixvania's lazy attempt from the imagination lacking writers at adapting the vibrant bestiary of classic Castlevania by running with a plot device that really wasn't used that much since Curse of Darkness.
It was so annoying how every night creature had their human personality in nocturne they used to be rale in the normal one
It was 1 only. Edourd clearly uses something in his singing to sway hearts. That’s why vampires hate his singing.
I’m assuming it’s because Isaac and hector had an actual connection in forging their night creatures while the abbot uses a machine he doesn’t actually do any forging
@@mikeishawtify weren't night creatures ancient people who died long ago how can that guy inhabit his own demon body
@yeayea8226 my thoughts as well all the night creators souls from hell. Bodies grafted a different soul from hell. Didn't understand way the same souls morphed their own body?
@@yeayea8226 someone in the comment section already said it but I agree with their statement: Hector and Isaac personally crafted each night creature with their own tools...they most likely created "perfect night creatures" where the body is just used to install a new soul ( a sinner from hell ) into them ... the machine probably lakes this perfection because it needs actively a human hand...this would mean that the machine doesn't use the souls of condemned sinners to create night creatures but the actual soul of the person the body originally belonged to...this would mean that not all of them were supposed to go to hell...some of them, like Edouard, were most likely supposed to go to heaven after their death but the machine prevented this...that's why the night creatures aren't as obedient as before and are more likely to remember their previous life because their not made from condemned souls