W. A. Mozart - KV 429 (468a) - Dir, Seele des Weltalls in E flat major

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024
  • The cantata is set in 5 movements:
    Chor. Dir, Seele des Weltalls (0:00)
    Arie. Dir danken wir die Freude (3:00)
    Duett. Die Lichter, die zu Tausenden (6:56)
    Accompagnato. Dir, Sonne des Weltalls (10:50)
    Chor. Dir, Seele des Weltalls (15:41)
    Fragments composed in Vienna in 1785. Some completion by Maximilian Stadler. Duet and Recitative composed by Rainer Bischof.
    Performers: Christoph Prégardien, tenor; Helmut Wildhaber, tenor; Chorus Viennensis; Wiener Akademie, conducted by Martin Haselböck.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 29

  • @Hermes1548
    @Hermes1548 10 років тому +9

    really modern, tense, mysterious, music.
    the final two minutes are classical and hopeful.

  • @fsaligny
    @fsaligny 8 років тому +3

    Il ne faut pas mélanger les genres : intercaler l'oeuvre de Rainer Bischof au milieu de celle de Mozart, fût-elle incomplète, n'apporte rien à personne !

  • @guitaoist
    @guitaoist 5 років тому +2

    Yeah at 7:00 i had to come to the comments to make sure that in fact was NOT Mozart, why are these things still kept in? Historical value is nice but its just not good lol

  • @mollycat2003
    @mollycat2003 6 років тому +5

    Stanley Sadie, eminent Mozart scholar, reviewing the original release of this album: "Mozart's friend Maximilian Stadler scored up the sketched movements (not very well or faithfully to Mozart's prescribed intentions), but here two more are added, to new words, in a 12-note setting by Rainer Bischoff, which I have to say makes extremely disagreeable listening in this context and seems at best a somewhat pretentious notion." (www.gramophone.co.uk/review/mozart-the-freemason-music) (Wayback Machine link: web.archive.org/web/20190728204130/www.gramophone.co.uk/review/mozart-the-freemason-music )
    Have to say I agree with that late eminent Mozart scholar on the Bischoff "completion." By the way, the additional words (duet and recitative) are said to be by Alexander Giese (1921-2016), an Austrian journalist and Freemason.

  • @josecarlosdelucas4661
    @josecarlosdelucas4661 9 років тому +5

    I'm so much suprised.... from min 8 this doesnt seem Mozart, in here there are non tonal music, is this really Mozart??? Is there any other composition like this from Mozart? IF this is ABSOLUTLY from W.A. then he contemplated eveery music any can compose.... amazing... Please answer...

    • @ComposersbyNumbers
      @ComposersbyNumbers  9 років тому +7

      +John Doe Doe
      Hello John Doe Doe. The duet and recitative are not by Mozart. There is no explanations on the CD notes about who composed these two movements. After some research, it turns out that they were composed by Austrian composer Dr. Rainer Bischof (b.1947). I changed the notes accordingly. Thank you for pointing out that lack of information on my part. Friedrich

    • @josecarlosdelucas4661
      @josecarlosdelucas4661 9 років тому +3

      +ComposersbyNumbers Thanks... I am number 1 fan of Mozart.... I was shooked when I heared Opus 133 from Beethoven because this meant he in deed contemplated all the future music.... I've always thought that Mozart could have been composed any non tonal music like this opus, maybe he just needed some more years or he just decided that tonal music just sounds better... don't know

    • @jonasstary5895
      @jonasstary5895 7 років тому +2

      Do you know Mozart's Gigue KV 573? It's also future music, like Prokofiev! :)

    • @markhansbauer7048
      @markhansbauer7048 6 років тому +1

      At the 8th minute, that's when Mozart hit the Tequila a little too hard.

    • @classicalmusic210
      @classicalmusic210 5 років тому +1

      @@josecarlosdelucas4661 try adagio and fugue k546 or dissonance quartet k465

  • @dr6965
    @dr6965 6 років тому

    Testoviron hat mich hierher geschickt!

    • @Rafal_Wu
      @Rafal_Wu 6 років тому +1

      Widzę że nie tylko ja od Testa

  • @geanrt
    @geanrt 2 роки тому

    🤧🤧

  • @ikbalcoeg9273
    @ikbalcoeg9273 3 роки тому +1

    0:00 Soyuz nerushimy republik svobodnik

  • @caritats
    @caritats 9 років тому +1

    On dirait presque du Ligeti.

  • @alanmexicanos6202
    @alanmexicanos6202 6 років тому +1

    Mozart composa cette cantate à la gloire du soleil en prévision de la fête de la saint jean d'été. La fête n'eut pas lieu et la cantate demeura inachevée.

    • @hermes0086
      @hermes0086 4 роки тому

      Merci pour ce fait ...Intéressant

  • @Josetta
    @Josetta 4 роки тому

    This sounds very unlike Mozart...upon reading the comments, I think many of you agree.

  • @Steinbach1984
    @Steinbach1984 7 місяців тому

    I don't know how this cantata is performed in masonic meetings. Maybe, the numbers are performed separately with speech or ritual in between. In that case, it's perfectly possible to combine Mozart with any other idiom. In concert or cd context ... not so much. I was immediately reminded of Ein musikalischer Spaß, and that's surely no compliment.

  • @MrConvivator
    @MrConvivator 6 років тому

    danke!
    Habe Link gesetzt: www.wgsebald.de/MOZART/juli.html#25

  • @jnkjnk506
    @jnkjnk506 Рік тому

    後半、モーツァルトじゃねえよな(笑)

  • @brettpitts9338
    @brettpitts9338 11 місяців тому

    Took many years, and going through each Mozart piece one by one, to find something that is atrocious and will never listen to again. Did he make this under the influence of LSD?

    • @ComposersbyNumbers
      @ComposersbyNumbers  10 місяців тому

      The duet and recitative are NOT by Mozart. That's why!