One of my favorite anarchists is this guy who assassinated his factory boss. He then went to to write essays in jail about why assassination is not particularly productive.
“After her and Birkman, now dating, decided to open up an ice cream shop, they then decided to try their hand in assassinating people.” Wow, that quote went from 1 to 100 really quick, dinnit?
You're right to be skeptical, because that's exactly not what happened! Goldman became involved in anarchism after reading about The Haymarket Massacre in Chicago, where a bunch of workers were gunned down by police after protesting for better working conditions. When the Homestead Strike started, she immediately saw parallels to Haymarket and wanted to do something about it. She and Berkman closed up their very successful business to help in any way they could. When the factory manager hired Pinkertons to break the strike and more workers were killed, that's when they started planning the assassination of the factory manager. It wasn't just some out-of-the-blue decision they made for the hell of it.
But anarchism is essentially “all hierarchies that cannot be justified are unjust”. You can still have a favourites list because admiration can be justified
This always leads to an argument over the meaning of hierarchy so lemme save everyone some time. Anarchists define "hierarchy" as a social structure where some people are allowed to use violent force against others, or withhold necessities like food. So it's not hierarchy when individuals are violent, it's when the society encourages and supports the violence. Anarchists differentiate Hierarchy with "Authority", which is listening to experts. You can take to your doctor's medical advice without him holding a gun to your head. As Bakunin said "On the matter of boots, I defer to the boot-maker". So Emma Goldman has authority and we can lick her boots
@@LowestofheDead Are you sure? It would seem by that standard, Anarcho-capitalists are also anarchist. Despite the protests that they aren't. I suppose it is true that the black flag comes in many colors.
@@Grigori7 No they wouldn't, capitalists have the ability to fire workers which is an action that robs that worker of the ability to afford necessities. They are also able to use the ability to fire workers as a way to threaten them into doing things like working for more hours or "voluntarily" forgoing breaks. Both of these things would be incompatible with that definition of anarchism.
Considering the kinds of demonic creatures they were slaying, it's like an action movie romance. On a side note, I do love to see the irony of people who see "murder" as immoral, yet are also fine with killing of other kinds of people in different situations. Whatever is considered "murder" is just killing in which the ruling authority does not permit. Like apparently the ruling authority of the past was perfectly fine with a capitalist slaughtering a whole factory of workers, but not fine with the slaughtering of that such capitalist. Morals are ridiculous anywhere outside of a vacuum, as they contradict other morals. Just admit that you're a selfish creature that wants to see things through your way. Your morals are meaningless unless you have the power to enforce them
Even if you disagree with anarchists, you should at least come to the acknowledgment that someone who's been repeatedly abused by authority figures may want to see those figures removed from their authority
@@babygorilla4233 Even during the Famously Anarchist Russian revolution, the Anarchists were kicking ass. The Free Combat Druzhina, led by Maria Nikiforova (look her up she was badass), had an ARMOURED FUCKING TRAIN with flags that read "Anarchy is the Mother of Order", "Power Breeds Parasites" , etc. They were better equipped than some of the Soviets
@@tezismith8795Many historians have also argued that one of the main reasons that the White Army were never able to muster forces to march on Moscow was their abject defeat in Ukraine at the hands of the Makhnovshchina. The tsarist forces and their Western imperial allies were thoroughly routed by a bunch of self-educated peasants with gun-carts. Had Lenin and Trotsky not turned on them after their victory… well, I think the world would probably be a much better place, but Bolsheviks gonna Bolshevik.
@@ConvincingPeople "Many historians have also argued that one of the main reasons that the White Army were never able to muster forces to march on Moscow was their abject defeat in Ukraine at the hands of the Makhnovshchina." "Had Lenin and Trotsky not turned on them after their victory... the world would probably be a much better place" I may have come across one or two papers regarding this, but I've been preoccupied with other things which make me forget the locations of the text. So ya got any links to what you're saying, assuming you haven't ended up like me in just 2 months?
Henry Frick was primarily responsible for the Johnstown Flood (2,208 dead) and for violently suppressing the Homestead Strike (3 dead, 12-36 injured). I cannot say the world would have been worse off if Berkman succeeded in sending Frick to the grave earlier than he died in real life.
@@thetravelingmerchant1 One way to define Anarchism is the organizational approach characterised by: 1. Decentralisation (dissolution of material and informational monopolies/oligopolies) 2. Direct Democracy (direct and efficient feedback loops) 3. Cooperative Commons (dissolution of material and information siloing; in order to prevent 'tragedy of the commons' phenomena; e.g. bureaucratic compartmentalized state departments, competitive enterprises with uncoordinated supply chains) Means and ends of Anarchism, is to say that an egalitarian society cannot ultimately be achieved by imposing it top-down, via government reforms or even like say taking over the government (like the Soviets did). The logic of the hierarchical government will be first and foremost towards its own survival, the status quo, the preservation of its power and therefore its hierarchy.
@@sworthyboy like - yes, pacifists are non-violent (obvs), but I would encourage you to read some labour history if you think syndicalists were as well. Also, the means/ends debate in anarchism is about the use of the state, not the use of violence; what was your comment in reference to?
my fave thing about her is her friendship with Kropotkin and Helen Keller I think. Or maybe her advocacy for contraception, that was a baller move for sure. Her, Malatesta, and Kropotkin introduced me to anarchism, and then from there I found David Graeber, Bookchin, and Gelderloos who are from this era and who've expounded on the anarchist tradition. David Graeber's books "Debtl: the first 5000 years" and "Bullshit Jobs" I think are must reads, he approaches the topics through anthropology mainly, so they're not anarchist per-say but his anarchism informs all of it no doubt. Ah and Bookchin later on stepped away from social anarchism and developed Communalism through his theory of social ecology... Which is the foundation for the social revolution that's been going on in Rojava for some years now. which is super neat. its also one of the more coherent projects in terms of dealing with the climate catastrophe.
I would HIGHLY suggest reading Goldman's autobiography, Living My Life. I haven't finished it, but it gives you so many details that this video did not. Even if you aren't an anarchist, it can make you sympathize with her, and really begin to understand her. This video was but a brief summary, and it overlooked some details that would have portrayed her in a better light.
why not try their hand at serving poisoned ice cream, then? (would've been a lot simpler, than "goldman whoring herself out for 10$ to raise money while berkman tried but failed to beat the guy to death & got sent to jail for 22 years" lol #fail #idiots
When visiting Prague, I got the chance to write a quote on the famouse Lenon Wall... so, being the nerdy anarchist I was, I wrote "If I can't dance, I don't want your revolution" - Emma Goldman
@@TJ-wt9op yeah. The quote is a general statement. Doesn’t take into account crimes commonly associated with negative mental illnesses. Where many commit crime for the sake of committing a crime
Probably Kropotkin and Stirner and less probably Nietzsche cus she viewed his ideas as anarchist (as many anarchists people and movements did at the time) even tho he was critical of the movement
You should try and cover "Your Favorite Anarchist's Anarchist Who Has Other Favorite Anarchists" next (i.e., Stirner, Bakunin, Voltairine, Proudhon, Thoreau, & Kropotkin).
I mean, there is no one Universal way to achieve anarchy, or one Universal definition of what the ideal anarchist society would look like, so arguably I would say it's more of a sandbox mode, both a Way to test ideas, and a method itself on how to organize things to test said ideas. As it is so fluid, there are many ways to take things, and you can discover things that you never really would have gotten into if you didn't have the freedom to decide what it means to you. because anarchy is a sandbox mode, the difficulty slider is highly variable, and really relies more on your creativity than anything else. Kind of like art. There are many things that I wouldn't have learned or considered if not for anarchy, such as veganism.
She never said that. What Goldman actually said, in her own answer in Berkman's stead to an early 1936 questionnaire from the "Mas Lejos" anarchist group in Barcelona, is: "First, the question as to whether the abstention from participation in elections is for Anarchists a matter of principle: I certainly think it is, and should be for all Anarchists. After all, participation in elections means the transfer of one's will and decisions to another, which is contrary to the fundamental principles of Anarchism." Much of this later appeared as an article "Anarchists and Elections," Vanguard, June-July 1936.
This is why you need to be extremely careful, and perform deeper research beyond a bunch of saucy quotes you saw from Google images. About 80% of the supposed "Goldman quotes" or for that matter, '"significant historical figures' quotes" online are flat-out made up; she never said anything even remotely like them. And about half of the ones that aren't out and out fake are misquotes.
Anarchists are still very active in organizing take an example the riots in Greece in 2022 over Exarchia. Or likewise in my time in the US anarchists were the main vector in the Anti-Fascist movement. There are certainly many squats which exists and other social organs that anarchists use other then violence.
"We probably won't see the end of capitalism during our lifetime. Can we do something to improve our lifes?" That was a comment I saw on a tiktok video made in response to people insisting on treating the root cause. It's so similar to what that man said to Emma Goldman one century and a half ago that left me shaking
this works on multiple levels. one because they would not support him, but second because the story of darth plageis was basically only known by 3 people or so, given the huge imporance put on secrecy in the sith order. so most Jedi wouldnt lnow his name much less his story just like how most social anarchists wouldn't know who the fuck he was eaither
Wow never knew about him, seems to be an interesting guy, especially his book "Toward the Creative Nothing"! Gotta find and read that one. Reminds me a lot of Wolfi Landstreicher!
My boy! :D Illegalist, egoist, nihilist, militant antifascist, and the best dressed man in Italy. As an aside: I've noticed that while most contemporary anarchists fall under the umbrella of social anarchism in the broad sense, the kind of people who call *themselves* "social anarchists" tend to have some of the worst takes humanly imaginable while still being nominally anarchist. Only their natural enemies, the most annoying "anti-left" people, can hope to compete in this regard. Put the worst Bookchin stan and the worst Ziq enjoyer in the rhetorical equivalent of a Taipei deathmatch and I swear they will concoct the most toxic discourse ever seen on this planet which will hopefully mercifully kill us all before we have to actually listen to it.
Ironic considering she hated Trotsky for killing all the sailors during the Kronstadt mutiny and rebellion which was primarily anarchist led. She wrote a whole pamphlet on it titled something like “Trotsky whines too much” because the main thing was on how Trotsky hated what the USSR became under Stalin even though he paved the way for people like Stalin to take power
Literally right after I start reading Kuwasi Balagoon, a New Afrikan and Black Anarchist who fuckin robbed banks and broke out of prison with a variety of other communists and socialists during the 80s, and I get to the part in his book where he says Emma Goldman is his favorite anarchist this video pops up. So good job Sisyphus. You did indeed cover my favorite anarchist’s favorite anarchist.
To preface your discussion of Goldman with the prevailing mischaracterisation of political anarchism (as a bunch of violent delinquents opportunistically 'doing the anarchist thing' when they felt like it), is... Really poor form considering how misunderstood anarchism is today. Yes, you mentioned it's a fairly broad, heterogeneous group. Yes you've given a nice introduction to Goldman. However you might be contextualising anarchism to some for the first time, and you've validated a contemporary right-wing slander-view they may have inherited. Poor form. Better to centre any introduction on what/why anarchists believe this or that, rather than the most extreme cases/ excesses of how they figured they might actualize their ideals.
lol anarchism has nothing to do with violence! while there are some branches of anarchism that do advocate violence or at least accept it as a potential means to the ends, the only thing all branches have in common is overcoming hierarchies. and that's what anarchy actually means: a condition of total equality in terms of power - as nobody has power over anybody.
@Propotkunin I think Sisyphus knows this (watch his Ted Kaczynski video), but he's talking about Emma Goldman's early views. Or not, which makes me a bit confused. Out of all anarchists I know irl none of them want violence. Not sure how online communities are, I try to avoid them.
We're sympathetic to anarchists round these part's. Anarchist violence was constantly exaggerated in the media of the time. Even if it's a lie I'd stand by it.
No offense, but I'm not sure how you managed to research Emma Goldman without mentioning The Haymarket Massacre, the #1 biggest motivation for her political views. She talks about it in her autobiography constantly, decades after it happened. She's even buried at the same graveyard as the Haymarket Martyrs' Monument.
I was interested to see who you were talking about, heard United States and immediately went “Goldman?” And when you said “Emma Goldman” it was a resounding “FUCK YEAH”
The way you’re reading these lines straight as if “A gentleman who was interested gave her $10 bucks but told her to keep it when he realized she didn’t have the knack” followed by “Berkman broke into Frick’s office, beat him unconscious but didn’t kill him. He then spent 22 years in jail” isn’t the most hilarious sentences to follow one another
Hey, amazing content as always ! I would suggest reducing the chromatic aberration and image flickering on the videos, it kinda hurts my eyes watching it too long and makes it hard focusing on the contents of the video. Otherwise, great work, keep it up :D
while i like a lot of her point stuff like this 12:13 seems a bit too optimistic to me. there are some people who are genuinely cruel and selfish and will be criminals out of individual desire rather than some grand social issue
well it is based on socioeconomic theory and her own worldview. it is true that the poor end up in prison more than the wealthy. sure there are some very bad people but it is rather immeasurable and almost irrelevant to the fact that the criminal justice system is very unjust
@@brainwashalpha5495 sure but saying ALL crime is socioeconomic is a HUGE exaggeration especially sense within criminology there is a lot of evidence that crime is at least partially cultural and that rehabilitative prisons are actually very effective at reducing crime. to me social democrats and liberal socialists have far better more evidence based solutions to nearly all of these problems. For example in a stateless society what is stoping a paramilitary from creating a new state? It feels like the power vacuume created from not having a stabile Monopoly will inevitably collapse into a new state Edit: an important point is also that the rich and big companies regurly break the law which suggests that the main drive is selfishness and lack of respect for the law
@@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 i must have misunderstood you because for sure I agree with you that anarchy is a very rocky ground for government where social democracy has shown results and has far better structure and stability. from my understanding anarchism is rather idealistic, considering all men are not angels.
I agree - and those genuinely cruel people are the vast minority of criminals; crime correlates highly with poverty. No anarchist claims that we're 100% angels, but our current society definitely claims that we're 100% selfish devils.. then says that we should put some of those devils in charge. As Kropotkin said "If man is not good enough for anarchism, is he good enough for capitalism?"
I feel like there’s a tiny bit of a difference between abusing a child and using violence against an adult. Something about power dynamics and the use of violence in the context of political discourse or something
The state was inherently violent with its people, so I understand when sometimes it's needed. The problem is when you lose the ideas you were fighting for.
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." Emma Goldman I knew an anarchist way back when who owned a pool cue that he named Emma Goldman, because she was always busting balls. I think anarchism works best on small scales, because the larger an association the more communication and coordination becomes an issue. The guy with the pool cue would say that Anarchy doesn't mean no rules, just no rulers. My question then is; Who makes the rules? Is the the syndicate part? They should talk about that part more. How does this scale..? If people can make free associations, are there size limits? Is a nationality a free association? Even if you are born there and can't leave easily? I'm asking the audience. ;-) . Personally, I'm a bit higher on the authority scale, but only because I think external international standards are a good thing. I call that small A authority, the kind that derives from the scientific method with rigorous review and testing.
So, like a network of delivery trucks, are there then "dispatchers" who coordinate the smaller groups, @@kiynchin..? If so, how is that not like a government..? I'm skeptical we can achieve an complete lack of hierarchy as all social animals that I know of have one. Isn't it really the abuse of authority that is the problem..?
"but for Anarchists it tends to mean things are finally going their way" WHAT?! NO! What about Anarchist thought makes you believe that a civil war between Stalinists and Nazis is preferrable? 1)Horrifying 2)One of them will win This is absolutely not an agreeable situation for an Anarchist. You seem to misunderstand Anarchy
Goldman must have had a hell of a time trying to convince a populace that is largely defined by monotheistic philosophies to engage in what is essentially a profoundly open interpretation of democracy. Good for her. Everybody dies and pays taxes. We don't all get the patience and smarts to actually realize how much those ordinary things are worth.
not everyone pays taxes. and anarchy isn't synonymous with democracy. definitions are what they are, they're not really qualify-able as "open" or "closed" or anything like that.
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at this point i'm almost afraid to watch new videos from anarchists b/c so many i've loved got bought up by NATO
Can you do a video on Charles Bukowski?
One of my favorite anarchists is this guy who assassinated his factory boss. He then went to to write essays in jail about why assassination is not particularly productive.
lol
What's his name?
Name?
I think hes referring to Alex Berkman
Alex Berkman & Emma Goldman were lovers. They plotted the assassination together.
“After her and Birkman, now dating, decided to open up an ice cream shop, they then decided to try their hand in assassinating people.”
Wow, that quote went from 1 to 100 really quick, dinnit?
Oh hey I've seen you in TheVolgun comment sections
I'm going to guess this video is about Goldman
*Berkman
The ice cream shop building still exists in Worcester.
Sacred ground.
You're right to be skeptical, because that's exactly not what happened! Goldman became involved in anarchism after reading about The Haymarket Massacre in Chicago, where a bunch of workers were gunned down by police after protesting for better working conditions. When the Homestead Strike started, she immediately saw parallels to Haymarket and wanted to do something about it. She and Berkman closed up their very successful business to help in any way they could. When the factory manager hired Pinkertons to break the strike and more workers were killed, that's when they started planning the assassination of the factory manager. It wasn't just some out-of-the-blue decision they made for the hell of it.
The concept of a favorite anarchist necessitates a hierarchy
lmao
But anarchism is essentially “all hierarchies that cannot be justified are unjust”. You can still have a favourites list because admiration can be justified
This always leads to an argument over the meaning of hierarchy so lemme save everyone some time.
Anarchists define "hierarchy" as a social structure where some people are allowed to use violent force against others, or withhold necessities like food.
So it's not hierarchy when individuals are violent, it's when the society encourages and supports the violence.
Anarchists differentiate Hierarchy with "Authority", which is listening to experts.
You can take to your doctor's medical advice without him holding a gun to your head. As Bakunin said "On the matter of boots, I defer to the boot-maker".
So Emma Goldman has authority and we can lick her boots
@@LowestofheDead Are you sure? It would seem by that standard, Anarcho-capitalists are also anarchist. Despite the protests that they aren't.
I suppose it is true that the black flag comes in many colors.
@@Grigori7 No they wouldn't, capitalists have the ability to fire workers which is an action that robs that worker of the ability to afford necessities. They are also able to use the ability to fire workers as a way to threaten them into doing things like working for more hours or "voluntarily" forgoing breaks. Both of these things would be incompatible with that definition of anarchism.
«they opened up an ice cream shop and then decided to try their hand assassinating people » Ahhh the American dream ❤🇺🇸🇺🇸❤
✨Relationship goals✨🥰
so slay
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Considering the kinds of demonic creatures they were slaying, it's like an action movie romance. On a side note, I do love to see the irony of people who see "murder" as immoral, yet are also fine with killing of other kinds of people in different situations. Whatever is considered "murder" is just killing in which the ruling authority does not permit. Like apparently the ruling authority of the past was perfectly fine with a capitalist slaughtering a whole factory of workers, but not fine with the slaughtering of that such capitalist.
Morals are ridiculous anywhere outside of a vacuum, as they contradict other morals. Just admit that you're a selfish creature that wants to see things through your way. Your morals are meaningless unless you have the power to enforce them
for real. like dude went to prison for 22 years and act like nothing happened
calling an attempted assassination "shenanigans" tickles me in a way I can't place
Even if you disagree with anarchists, you should at least come to the acknowledgment that someone who's been repeatedly abused by authority figures may want to see those figures removed from their authority
Also the anarchists got results, things taken for granted by generations.
@@babygorilla4233 Even during the Famously Anarchist Russian revolution, the Anarchists were kicking ass. The Free Combat Druzhina, led by Maria Nikiforova (look her up she was badass), had an ARMOURED FUCKING TRAIN with flags that read "Anarchy is the Mother of Order", "Power Breeds Parasites" , etc. They were better equipped than some of the Soviets
@@tezismith8795Many historians have also argued that one of the main reasons that the White Army were never able to muster forces to march on Moscow was their abject defeat in Ukraine at the hands of the Makhnovshchina. The tsarist forces and their Western imperial allies were thoroughly routed by a bunch of self-educated peasants with gun-carts. Had Lenin and Trotsky not turned on them after their victory… well, I think the world would probably be a much better place, but Bolsheviks gonna Bolshevik.
@@ConvincingPeople "Many historians have also argued that one of the main reasons that the White Army were never able to muster forces to march on Moscow was their abject defeat in Ukraine at the hands of the Makhnovshchina."
"Had Lenin and Trotsky not turned on them after their victory... the world would probably be a much better place"
I may have come across one or two papers regarding this, but I've been preoccupied with other things which make me forget the locations of the text.
So ya got any links to what you're saying, assuming you haven't ended up like me in just 2 months?
Henry Frick was primarily responsible for the Johnstown Flood (2,208 dead) and for violently suppressing the Homestead Strike (3 dead, 12-36 injured). I cannot say the world would have been worse off if Berkman succeeded in sending Frick to the grave earlier than he died in real life.
the MF DOOM of anarchists
That's what I was thinking too
@@Infinitecreek25 the hendrix
thank u for getting the reference
the best emcee with no chain ya ever heard
all caps when you say the woman’s name
EMMA GOLDMAN
When anarchists talk about means and ends, they aren't usually talking about violence as a means to an end
Yeah this dude has no idea what anarchism actually is
It's as if he read up on the definition in a conservative forum
@@decim161 ikr
@@thetravelingmerchant1
One way to define Anarchism is the organizational approach characterised by:
1. Decentralisation
(dissolution of material and informational monopolies/oligopolies)
2. Direct Democracy
(direct and efficient feedback loops)
3. Cooperative Commons
(dissolution of material and information siloing; in order to prevent 'tragedy of the commons' phenomena; e.g. bureaucratic compartmentalized state departments, competitive enterprises with uncoordinated supply chains)
Means and ends of Anarchism, is to say that an egalitarian society cannot ultimately be achieved by imposing it top-down, via government reforms or even like say taking over the government (like the Soviets did). The logic of the hierarchical government will be first and foremost towards its own survival, the status quo, the preservation of its power and therefore its hierarchy.
anarcho pasificts and anarcho syndicalists are nonvoilent
@@sworthyboy like - yes, pacifists are non-violent (obvs), but I would encourage you to read some labour history if you think syndicalists were as well. Also, the means/ends debate in anarchism is about the use of the state, not the use of violence; what was your comment in reference to?
“ i don’t care if a man’s theory for tomorrow is correct. i care if his spirit for today is” - emma goldman
my fave thing about her is her friendship with Kropotkin and Helen Keller I think. Or maybe her advocacy for contraception, that was a baller move for sure.
Her, Malatesta, and Kropotkin introduced me to anarchism, and then from there I found David Graeber, Bookchin, and Gelderloos who are from this era and who've expounded on the anarchist tradition.
David Graeber's books "Debtl: the first 5000 years" and "Bullshit Jobs" I think are must reads, he approaches the topics through anthropology mainly, so they're not anarchist per-say but his anarchism informs all of it no doubt.
Ah and Bookchin later on stepped away from social anarchism and developed Communalism through his theory of social ecology... Which is the foundation for the social revolution that's been going on in Rojava for some years now. which is super neat. its also one of the more coherent projects in terms of dealing with the climate catastrophe.
I would HIGHLY suggest reading Goldman's autobiography, Living My Life. I haven't finished it, but it gives you so many details that this video did not. Even if you aren't an anarchist, it can make you sympathize with her, and really begin to understand her.
This video was but a brief summary, and it overlooked some details that would have portrayed her in a better light.
"after opening an ice cream shop they decided to try their hand at assassination" is a magical sentence
why not try their hand at serving poisoned ice cream, then? (would've been a lot simpler, than "goldman whoring herself out for 10$ to raise money while berkman tried but failed to beat the guy to death & got sent to jail for 22 years" lol #fail #idiots
When visiting Prague, I got the chance to write a quote on the famouse Lenon Wall... so, being the nerdy anarchist I was, I wrote "If I can't dance, I don't want your revolution" - Emma Goldman
As an anarchist, I'm glad to know about anarchist's favorite anarchist
Me too
Indeed.
Y are u an anarchist
as an anarchist i’m enjoying hearing about you (an anarchist) being glad to know about an anarchists favourite anarchists
Do u believe anarchism could be made real or for that matter even solve our modern world problems?
“crime is naught but misdirected energy” is one of the defining quotes of my worldview. what a wonderful figure in the movement ❤️❤️
Hmm... Wonder if she was thinking about white collar crime when she said that
@@DoggARithm this was in 1910 so i don’t think so lol
literally same. beyond ecstatic to see this quote here 🖤🖤🖤
This seems to imply the absence of malevolent individuals
@@TJ-wt9op yeah. The quote is a general statement. Doesn’t take into account crimes commonly associated with negative mental illnesses. Where many commit crime for the sake of committing a crime
5:13 damn she really changed her opinion on people being beaten with whips huh
the second guy clearly liked it.
hell yes an anarchist episode let's goooooo
does my favorite anarchist's favorite anarchist also have a favorite anarchist
probably stirner
Alexander Berkman obv
maybe Kropotkin
@@eabea kropotkin for sure
Kropotkin. They were close friends.
Probably Kropotkin and Stirner and less probably Nietzsche cus she viewed his ideas as anarchist (as many anarchists people and movements did at the time) even tho he was critical of the movement
Wish to know more about anarchism from you. I really like your visual style.
If you like these kinds of videos, I recommend Zoe Baker, who also makes animations about famous anarchists.
@@mynamejeff3545 DR. Zoe Baker please
just want to second the recommendation, Zoe Baker is simply brilliant
To quote from one of the great musicians of the past twenty years - “Well, he’ll quote Emma Goldman but he’ll never get up to dance”
Whi write it?
"Hes at a show quoting feminism to get into your pants oh yea"
I am The Grass Man and Emma Goldman is not just my favorite anarchist, but also my favorite historical figure all togther :)
thank you the grass man, very cool
@jj verona *thank you THE Grass Man
‘First a word from my sponsors’
That alone eats at the core of what anarchism is.
No gods. No masters.
This is his job, people
I really enjoy your content, thank you for being here.
You should try and cover "Your Favorite Anarchist's Anarchist Who Has Other Favorite Anarchists" next (i.e., Stirner, Bakunin, Voltairine, Proudhon, Thoreau, & Kropotkin).
he made a video on stirner but i don't feel like it was very accurate (called "the most miserable philosopher of all time")
@@Avery-df9vy guess it's about Cioran, not Stirner
Czolgozs is McKinley’s assassin. He spoke to her once and THEN stalked her.
the layered music until 4:10 drove me insane. great video though
MUSICAL ANARCHY
"Ah, the days when Anarchists weren't edgy teens on the internet."
find better anarchists if you think that's in the past, just don't work for NATO
Bruh the anarchists have always been edgy
@@lohollywood1f428Kinda agreed.
@@solgato5186 tf is NATO? National Alligators Trampoline Oscars
@Nope This is just wrong. As with all oversimplifications, of course.
Anarchism sounds like playing life on the difficulty you unlock after hard mode
Sitting on your ass all day and posting edgy memes on reddit, seems hard af
I mean, there is no one Universal way to achieve anarchy, or one Universal definition of what the ideal anarchist society would look like, so arguably I would say it's more of a sandbox mode, both a Way to test ideas, and a method itself on how to organize things to test said ideas.
As it is so fluid, there are many ways to take things, and you can discover things that you never really would have gotten into if you didn't have the freedom to decide what it means to you.
because anarchy is a sandbox mode, the difficulty slider is highly variable, and really relies more on your creativity than anything else. Kind of like art.
There are many things that I wouldn't have learned or considered if not for anarchy, such as veganism.
yoo new sisyphus
If voting changed anything, it would be illegal - Emma Goldman
She never said that.
What Goldman actually said, in her own answer in Berkman's stead to an early 1936 questionnaire from the "Mas Lejos" anarchist group in Barcelona, is:
"First, the question as to whether the abstention from participation in elections is for Anarchists a matter of principle: I certainly think it is, and should be for all Anarchists. After all, participation in elections means the
transfer of one's will and decisions to another, which is contrary to the fundamental principles of Anarchism."
Much of this later appeared as an article "Anarchists and Elections," Vanguard, June-July 1936.
This is why you need to be extremely careful, and perform deeper research beyond a bunch of saucy quotes you saw from Google images.
About 80% of the supposed "Goldman quotes" or for that matter, '"significant historical figures' quotes" online are flat-out made up; she never said anything even remotely like them. And about half of the ones that aren't out and out fake are misquotes.
> opens an ice-cream shop
> _casually agrees to assassinating people_
That went 100 real quick.
Anarchists are still very active in organizing take an example the riots in Greece in 2022 over Exarchia. Or likewise in my time in the US anarchists were the main vector in the Anti-Fascist movement. There are certainly many squats which exists and other social organs that anarchists use other then violence.
Ya but it's like a shadow
you're telling me this is the mf doom of anarchists?
Would love to see you do a video on Errico Malatesta ❤ 🖤
Do Malatesta next!
*Malatesta ❤
My grandpa ❤
@@PankoBreading for real?
Love the casual MF Doom reference
"We probably won't see the end of capitalism during our lifetime. Can we do something to improve our lifes?" That was a comment I saw on a tiktok video made in response to people insisting on treating the root cause.
It's so similar to what that man said to Emma Goldman one century and a half ago that left me shaking
Wow thoes are some very direct actions.
I thought it will be about Malatesta, Makhno or maybe Ito Noe but im satisfied nonetheless
Nothing speaks to the authentic nature of a video on anarchism like a paid for advertisement/endorsement of a corporate entity. How neat.
Ever hear the tale of Renzo Novatore? It’s not a story the social anarchists would tell you
this works on multiple levels. one because they would not support him, but second because the story of darth plageis was basically only known by 3 people or so, given the huge imporance put on secrecy in the sith order. so most Jedi wouldnt lnow his name much less his story
just like how most social anarchists wouldn't know who the fuck he was eaither
@@amb600cd0 you drunk when you posted this?
i like novatore
Wow never knew about him, seems to be an interesting guy, especially his book "Toward the Creative Nothing"! Gotta find and read that one. Reminds me a lot of Wolfi Landstreicher!
My boy! :D Illegalist, egoist, nihilist, militant antifascist, and the best dressed man in Italy.
As an aside: I've noticed that while most contemporary anarchists fall under the umbrella of social anarchism in the broad sense, the kind of people who call *themselves* "social anarchists" tend to have some of the worst takes humanly imaginable while still being nominally anarchist. Only their natural enemies, the most annoying "anti-left" people, can hope to compete in this regard. Put the worst Bookchin stan and the worst Ziq enjoyer in the rhetorical equivalent of a Taipei deathmatch and I swear they will concoct the most toxic discourse ever seen on this planet which will hopefully mercifully kill us all before we have to actually listen to it.
12:26 we stan Prisons: A Social Crime and Failure
Hobbs would be terrified
*Hobbes
calvin would be more scared i think
Emma Goldman and Leon Trotsky would have had a field day talking about Stalin.
There's a fan fiction of Trotsky fleeing to the states and they unionize factories together.
Ironic considering she hated Trotsky for killing all the sailors during the Kronstadt mutiny and rebellion which was primarily anarchist led. She wrote a whole pamphlet on it titled something like “Trotsky whines too much” because the main thing was on how Trotsky hated what the USSR became under Stalin even though he paved the way for people like Stalin to take power
Would have talked more like Kronstadt and Ukrainian I think
I think you should clarify she isnt against democracy but against representative democracy.
Anarchism might be one of the most radical political ideas but it highlights more of the human condition than most political systems
Please do peter kropotkin next!
Literally right after I start reading Kuwasi Balagoon, a New Afrikan and Black Anarchist who fuckin robbed banks and broke out of prison with a variety of other communists and socialists during the 80s, and I get to the part in his book where he says Emma Goldman is his favorite anarchist this video pops up. So good job Sisyphus. You did indeed cover my favorite anarchist’s favorite anarchist.
To preface your discussion of Goldman with the prevailing mischaracterisation of political anarchism (as a bunch of violent delinquents opportunistically 'doing the anarchist thing' when they felt like it), is... Really poor form considering how misunderstood anarchism is today. Yes, you mentioned it's a fairly broad, heterogeneous group. Yes you've given a nice introduction to Goldman. However you might be contextualising anarchism to some for the first time, and you've validated a contemporary right-wing slander-view they may have inherited. Poor form. Better to centre any introduction on what/why anarchists believe this or that, rather than the most extreme cases/ excesses of how they figured they might actualize their ideals.
lol anarchism has nothing to do with violence! while there are some branches of anarchism that do advocate violence or at least accept it as a potential means to the ends, the only thing all branches have in common is overcoming hierarchies. and that's what anarchy actually means: a condition of total equality in terms of power - as nobody has power over anybody.
I think it's about the change of Emma Goldman's views from violence to controlled violence and all the things you said, like overcoming hierarchies.
@Propotkunin
I think Sisyphus knows this (watch his Ted Kaczynski video), but he's talking about Emma Goldman's early views. Or not, which makes me a bit confused. Out of all anarchists I know irl none of them want violence. Not sure how online communities are, I try to avoid them.
@@hanneslundin346 no matter why he said it - he makes people believe, anarchism was about violence.
every political theory is about violence.
@@propotkunin445 you ask 10 anarchists what anarchism is about and you get 10 answers.
5:11 - I wonder how Emma's younger self would have felt about that.
Damn this lady was mad based
Decent video, but I will note that “beat” isn’t the best word to describe what Berkman did to Frick. He shot and stabbed the bastard.
We're sympathetic to anarchists round these part's. Anarchist violence was constantly exaggerated in the media of the time. Even if it's a lie I'd stand by it.
There are great portrayals of her in Warren Beatty's film Reds and E.L Doctorow's novel Ragtime.
what a great video to be sponsored by skillshare
At first I thought this was going to be a sensationalist take on anarchy but it ended up being really balanced and informative. Good job!
Great video ! i would love to hear more about prominent historical anticapitalistic figures.
No offense, but I'm not sure how you managed to research Emma Goldman without mentioning The Haymarket Massacre, the #1 biggest motivation for her political views. She talks about it in her autobiography constantly, decades after it happened. She's even buried at the same graveyard as the Haymarket Martyrs' Monument.
excellent video! really inspiring lady, thanks so much for sharing.
Babe wake up, new sysiphus dropped today
literally me
Your videos are just awesome!
Emma Goldman did not plan assassinations.
Oh my gosh a cute little ice cream shop is so perfect
I guess you can say that her father often... Punished her severely.
I was interested to see who you were talking about, heard United States and immediately went “Goldman?” And when you said “Emma Goldman” it was a resounding “FUCK YEAH”
I love your comment so much i went back and watched your sponsorship
I thank Techno blade for explaining it to me, may he rest in peace 👑🐷
My favorite philosophers favorite philosopher 🤟🏼
Emma Goldman was heavily inspired by Nietzsche. Hence the life affirmation in her philosophy and exhibited in her dancing.
That's projection and wishful thinking....🙄🙄😒😒
@@tommulder9420 She said so herself.
The way you’re reading these lines straight as if “A gentleman who was interested gave her $10 bucks but told her to keep it when he realized she didn’t have the knack” followed by “Berkman broke into Frick’s office, beat him unconscious but didn’t kill him. He then spent 22 years in jail” isn’t the most hilarious sentences to follow one another
Red Emma!! I'd call her a queen, but I imagine she'd quite dislike the concept...
Wonderful video!!
Great, I was just thinking of anarchism
Stirners favorite was Stirner.
Tbh most anarchyst are against violence 00:40
What do you mean by "most", "anarchists", and "violence" because these all need further explanation...
Hey, amazing content as always ! I would suggest reducing the chromatic aberration and image flickering on the videos, it kinda hurts my eyes watching it too long and makes it hard focusing on the contents of the video. Otherwise, great work, keep it up :D
So sorta like Rambo, except most people don’t know how to use bows (and arrows)
love me sum emma goldman
I'm guessing Murray... Let's see
murray is definitely not the favourite anarchist's favourite anarchist
Goldman, Malatesta, and Kropotkin are my favorite anarchists and I am curious who their favorite anarchists (or rappers) were...
You definitely don't want to take violent people with you to anarchy!
Lol, what?!
Anarchists when they come to know matter exists in states: 🤐😠😡😭🤬😡
Anarchists when they found out they live in a state of consciousness
anarchists when they realise there's a part of their body called the prostate
@@longnoseboi I hate the "pro"state, but why does it feel so good?
-Anarchists probably
while i like a lot of her point stuff like this 12:13 seems a bit too optimistic to me. there are some people who are genuinely cruel and selfish and will be criminals out of individual desire rather than some grand social issue
well it is based on socioeconomic theory and her own worldview. it is true that the poor end up in prison more than the wealthy. sure there are some very bad people but it is rather immeasurable and almost irrelevant to the fact that the criminal justice system is very unjust
@@brainwashalpha5495 sure but saying ALL crime is socioeconomic is a HUGE exaggeration especially sense within criminology there is a lot of evidence that crime is at least partially cultural and that rehabilitative prisons are actually very effective at reducing crime.
to me social democrats and liberal socialists have far better more evidence based solutions to nearly all of these problems. For example in a stateless society what is stoping a paramilitary from creating a new state? It feels like the power vacuume created from not having a stabile Monopoly will inevitably collapse into a new state
Edit: an important point is also that the rich and big companies regurly break the law which suggests that the main drive is selfishness and lack of respect for the law
@@imnotnotgameiacmaniac5327 i must have misunderstood you because for sure I agree with you that anarchy is a very rocky ground for government where social democracy has shown results and has far better structure and stability. from my understanding anarchism is rather idealistic, considering all men are not angels.
I agree - and those genuinely cruel people are the vast minority of criminals; crime correlates highly with poverty.
No anarchist claims that we're 100% angels, but our current society definitely claims that we're 100% selfish devils.. then says that we should put some of those devils in charge.
As Kropotkin said "If man is not good enough for anarchism, is he good enough for capitalism?"
it goes from her getting beat and abused, to her whipping her fellow anarchist for slipping up, the hypocrisy is real 😂
I feel like there’s a tiny bit of a difference between abusing a child and using violence against an adult. Something about power dynamics and the use of violence in the context of political discourse or something
The state was inherently violent with its people, so I understand when sometimes it's needed. The problem is when you lose the ideas you were fighting for.
"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." Emma Goldman
I knew an anarchist way back when who owned a pool cue that he named Emma Goldman, because she was always busting balls. I think anarchism works best on small scales, because the larger an association the more communication and coordination becomes an issue. The guy with the pool cue would say that Anarchy doesn't mean no rules, just no rulers. My question then is; Who makes the rules? Is the the syndicate part? They should talk about that part more. How does this scale..? If people can make free associations, are there size limits? Is a nationality a free association? Even if you are born there and can't leave easily? I'm asking the audience. ;-)
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Personally, I'm a bit higher on the authority scale, but only because I think external international standards are a good thing. I call that small A authority, the kind that derives from the scientific method with rigorous review and testing.
It's a fractal organization. Small groups act as individual units in the larger collections of groups, and groups of groups and so on.
So, like a network of delivery trucks, are there then "dispatchers" who coordinate the smaller groups, @@kiynchin..? If so, how is that not like a government..? I'm skeptical we can achieve an complete lack of hierarchy as all social animals that I know of have one. Isn't it really the abuse of authority that is the problem..?
I feel like she choose western capitalism was more suitable for anarchy to work because Russia wasn’t into free speech !!!
Thank you.
Hopefully Han Ryner is next, it would be greatly appreciated!
"but for Anarchists it tends to mean things are finally going their way" WHAT?!
NO!
What about Anarchist thought makes you believe that a civil war between Stalinists and Nazis is preferrable?
1)Horrifying
2)One of them will win
This is absolutely not an agreeable situation for an Anarchist.
You seem to misunderstand Anarchy
please do Errico Malatesta next
9:15 Similar to Errico Malatesta, then, in that regard. Interesting.
Not even an anarchist but wanted to know who it is.
Look up the song "I think I'm Emma Goldman" by Sole, it'll be closer to the MF Doom reference....lol
wtf that's cool af I didn't know sole made a song referring to emma I loveeee clouddead and anticon even more now
sometimes i think this channel is made by my split personality
Sounds like her life was just really horrible all the time tbh
Read her biography, there's way more to it.
The Berkley sources in the description are broken
Needed this lol
There's overlapping music after the ad... But is it on purpose because it's an anarchy video?
Goldman must have had a hell of a time trying to convince a populace that is largely defined by monotheistic philosophies to engage in what is essentially a profoundly open interpretation of democracy. Good for her. Everybody dies and pays taxes. We don't all get the patience and smarts to actually realize how much those ordinary things are worth.
not everyone pays taxes. and anarchy isn't synonymous with democracy. definitions are what they are, they're not really qualify-able as "open" or "closed" or anything like that.