I miss going hunting with my godfather - my "Father" didnt have time to waste on hunting with his only son - business came first - so my godfather was my teacher and hunting partner - he was a old weapons collector 1790 to 1969 weapons from all over the world - my favorite were the Mauser bolt action rifles
👉 I try to make it a point to let the 2 initial youtube ads run all the way through, so the channel gets paid for the ads. I recommend all viewers do that if possible. I occasionally let the final ads run as well. This is all dependent on the length of the ads. If each one is 3 mins to 45 mins long, then not so much! I can't afford to be a Patreon donor for every channel I occasionally watch. But hopefully that helps.
Also a Patreon member, by far my favorite MZ’r channel. I’ve making smoke 💨 since 1982 when i got my first T/C Hawken… I’m told I just went down hill from there lol. I love his dedication to bringing historical MZ to life.
The workmanship on that is awesome. Did you see the edge of the mainspring? It's fluted. It's decorative...on the inside...where it's not visible 99% of the time. And that seriously swamped barrel...holy cow that's hard to do properly. That's amazing. And it belonged to the Esterhazy family, which makes it hugely historical. 60 grains under a .63 caliber ball should drop anything in Central Europe.
Beautiful, a wonderful Jager rifle! Much like my coach on the Canadian Muzzleloading Team uses! I Love your smile at 1:39... that's the smile of a man who loves the accuracy and the fun of shooting these beautiful old arms, as I do! Smiling with you, my friend, here in Canada! :)
Previously the only thing I knew about the Esterhazy family was that Joseph Haydn spent most of his career as the family's court composer. This was a fascinating video from several perspectives.
American rifle design was to suit the game/threat. The Atlantic states had little large game. The largest being the deer and occasional brown bear. But also squirrel. Hunting was principally on foot having arrived on horseback. Supplies were indeed a consideration. But the conditions also suited the lighter arm and calibre with a long sight radius. When the west opened there were found the buffalo, grizzly bears, elk, moose and native american tribes that took exception to that trespass on their land. Travel was on horseback in large hunting or exploring groups with pack trains. The environment demanded a large bore, heavy rifle with a shorter barrel. And, many have hundreds of miles from any trading post, the rifles had to be sturdy to survive rough handling. Hence to mountain or plains rifle.
That's a beautiful firearm and an excellent shooter for it's age. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and a happy, healthy New Year! Looking forward to more of your great videos in 2021!
Thanks for another wonderful video sir. I've been a longtime subscriber but don't often comment. This time I had to because I grew up just north of Esterhazy, Saskatchewan in Canada. Now I know the origin of the town's name. Thanks again and all the best in 2021.
Absolutely wonderful. This is like shooting a Stradivarius from Cremona, only a lot more lethal... fascinating to hear about the connection the rifle has to the Esterhazy family.
I love your channel its like that old history channel show “tales of the gun” it tells the human side of the guns stories. The show talks about the culture and time the guns were made and the thoughts and reason for their making.
Love your channel. I've been hunting Pennsylvania with a Flintlock for 42 years. I've taken many Whitetail deer with it and it is more enjoyable to me than any other style of hunting. I currently have a Lyman, but eventually plan on building a Christopher Guist style Pennsylvania Flintlock rifle.
Superb video. Your rifle is a fully functional historic piece of art work! The craftsman who built it would be proud of the way you honor it, and showcase its beauty for all to see. Simply amazing! Well done sir.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours, thank you for some of the greatest videos on UA-cam. That is a beautiful 260 year old firearm that shoots extremely well.
I'm glad you left the percussion upgrade intact, especially since it had been done so well. I'll take your word for it, from my end it looks as though its supposed to be that way.
Enjoyed the complete explanation for load development, the use of the rifle and its limitations to hunting. We do not have proof houses here in the USA-very cool to see how that works. When I built my Pennsylvania flintlock rifle I loaded a triple charge and tied it to a tire and used a long string to fire it.:)
Hey cap and ball. Here's a very long winded comment about a loading trick if you care to read it. I shoot a generic run of the mill percussion .54 TC renegade with 29" green mountain slow twist ball barrel. So- here's the trick. I drilled a hole about an inch deep in the ball end of my short starter. It's like yours a round wood ball about two inches in diameter. A standard mass produced cheap starter. The hole I drilled is large enough to easily fit over the end of my rifles 3/8ths ramrod. To load, I set precut patch then ball with sprue up on the muzzle, normal fashion just like you. I grab the short starter out of my bag, set the short end on the ball and WHAP! start the ball in the barrel. Stick the long starter atop the ball and WHAP! drive the ball down a few inches. Same as you do it in this video. But where I do it different - to seat the ball on the powder- I pull the ramrod, do NOT flip it, drop it down on the ball, and insert the upper end of the rod in the hole I drilled in the short starter. WHOOSH!! in one powerful slap drive the ball down on the powder, and give it one last smack to ensure ball is solid against powder. Reseat rod, cap and fire as usual. So, to do this without having to flip the rod twice, I ground down the widdened edge of the starter end of my ramrod so it slides down the barrel pipes. That way I don't have to flip the rod over twice for each shot. Plus I use a tough hickory rod made from the same hickory I use for heavy arrows that is very straight grained so it will bend and not split. Plus, with my rifle being 29" I can get the starter over the end of the rod and slam the ball down the barrel with the palm of my hand. No hand over handing it. Works great for me and is REAL fast. Just thought I'd mention this. Thanks for all the vids over the years.
Love your videos. Try to watch every one of them. Have to say that this rifle is the very best and most interesting rifle you've done so far. A percussion Yeager. I'd never dreamed it. Keep up the great work little brother. Ya'll have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Ahogy jóideje látom ez az egyik legnépszerűbb csatorna, nemcsak a vadász és "fegyverbolondok", de a laikusok körében is. Nálam már állami kitüntetés, legalább tisztikereszt járna ezért a tevékenységért, és vele együtt Magyarország népszerűsítéséért...hatalmas respect!!! 👏👌
Recently found your channel,and subscribed. Always very informative, educational and fun. I'm giving up centerfires and inlines and going back to patch and ball. I've always had more fun with them,and done well on whitetail deer.
Thats a beauty for sure and we can all see that you enjoy to shoot with it. 👍👍 And it was a very nice idea to official shooting of the gun. I do it with all my selfmade guns as well. Beginning of next year I hope I will get a apointment for the official shoot of my new build 20 gauge double flintlock shotgun 😁😆
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and those you love and cherish. I do appreciate the video content that you produce and I watch every video. I have to say when I looked at the rifle at the very beginning of the video I could have sworn you were holding a Hawken .50 caliber rifle. The only real difference that I would say was really obvious would be the style of the lands and grooves of the rifling of these two rifles. I have a .50 caliber Hawken that was made in the mid 1970s and a hand made Kentucky rifle in .36 caliber made somewhere at the turn of the 20th century around 1900. Both of my rifles are capable of 1/2" to 1" groups at both 50 and 100 yards using simple leaf front post and square notch rear sights graduated out to 300 yards. I love to shoot black powder and don't shoot nearly as often as I did when I was younger. I have hunted with both rifles where I live and have missed shots with these rifles only when I made a mistake which was not often. I know some guys who think having the latest and baddest new rifles is the best thing to have but somehow shooting a single shot black powder rifle makes you a much better marksman because you want and need your shot to count because most of the time it is going to be the only shot you get. I am glad that I ran across your channel a few years ago and I love the way you go into the details of what you are presenting as the subject. Not too many channels can do what you do and you are great at what you do. I hope to continue to watch your content in the future and thanks again.
Eu apreciei este vídeo. A fotografia é bela e o clima é de serenidade e harmonia, o rifle é absolutamente lindo. Isso é arte. Agradeço por compartilhar. Brasil.
Dear Steve, I wish I could post more without downgrading quality. Next will be the hunting video of the 18th century jager, followed by the Smith carbine.
Nice rifle . Merry Christmas to you !! I was wondering if you could do a video on lead hardness and casting on how you do it for your rifles . I'm sure it would be of interest to many and I would appreciate your ideas and compare to what I know here in the states .
Yes and no. The grooves are very deep at the muzzle and become much shallower soon. That was done to make loading easier, it has some kind of "funnel" effect.
I have an original side by side Fowler 24 guage with the 31.75" barrels made by Schilling in Suhl that I bought online. I was really surprised at how light and balanced it was when I got it. I have a normal modern 28 guage side by side and it's substantially heavier than the Schilling and probably honestly less comfortable and natural pointing than the old caplock. Based on my research and finding some other really similarly designed guns by the same maker I believe it was made in the 1830s but I'm definitely not an expert. It was also interesting for me to see the way muzzleloader legality is handled in Europe. In America, other than a few obnoxiously strict states, muzzleloaders aren't regulated as firearms. You just have to be 18 to buy them they don't come with any of the associated paperwork or formalities.
Thanks for the video. It's refreshing to see a guy load in one minute. If you take out using the second horn. A whole lot better than most of the "HEY loookee here! Now this here's how you load a mz. lemmee tell yuh whut." on youtube that takes two minutes-or five minutes- loading from a bench fumbling around with everything with no clue of how to load from actuallyhaving done it thousands of times. They don't know s%$# from shinola. You've done this alot. Good job. I load patch and ball in my .54 in one minute from my pouch, and that includes blowing down the barrel, pulling and reseating the rod. But that is when I'm full throttle gettin after it. Been shooting that .54 since 1990. btw subbed and liked.
What a great firearm and I’m looking forward to seeing a video of it on the hunt. How do you measure your hunting load so that it meets the regulations? I’ll be hunting our Pennsylvania late season with a new .62 caliber flintlock Jäger my grandfather built me inspired by an original Brandenburg School by Von Der Fecht. Your video makes me want to plan a trip across the pond soon!
1:31 inches is a really fast twist rate for a .63 caliber round ball rifle.. Im surprised at the accuracy you were getting with patched round balls in such a fast bore.. Do you have a video on twist rates on these original european muzzle loaders? Would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.. This rifle would probably shoot Conicals really well..
I miss going hunting with my godfather - my "Father" didnt have time to waste on hunting with his only son - business came first - so my godfather was my teacher and hunting partner - he was a old weapons collector 1790 to 1969 weapons from all over the world - my favorite were the Mauser bolt action rifles
Hollywood should hire this guy to do voice overs.
:D never been a better Hunglish speaker :D
The director would have to keep him from cracking jokes all the time. Guest appearance as the baddie in Archer.
@@capandball His English is much better than my Magyar.
I am a Patreon member for him...and just love the way he approaches these old guns...and how he loves them.....
We all pass through history, he teaches and lives it. I am also, he teaches and I learn from him, perhaps I can return the favor someday.
Yup way the hell better than the mz wannabes. See my post above.
👉 I try to make it a point to let the 2 initial youtube ads run all the way through, so the channel gets paid for the ads. I recommend all viewers do that if possible. I occasionally let the final ads run as well. This is all dependent on the length of the ads. If each one is 3 mins to 45 mins long, then not so much! I can't afford to be a Patreon donor for every channel I occasionally watch. But hopefully that helps.
Also a Patreon member, by far my favorite MZ’r channel. I’ve making smoke 💨 since 1982 when i got my first T/C Hawken… I’m told I just went down hill from there lol. I love his dedication to bringing historical MZ to life.
I'm a simple person. I see a video from Capandball that's over thirty minutes, I drop everything and pay attention
1:38. That grin, though...
I know the feeling!
Merry Christmas to you, Belize.
Nice well regulated old rifle good grouping at 45mtrs take care and have a great Christmas
The workmanship on that is awesome. Did you see the edge of the mainspring? It's fluted. It's decorative...on the inside...where it's not visible 99% of the time. And that seriously swamped barrel...holy cow that's hard to do properly. That's amazing. And it belonged to the Esterhazy family, which makes it hugely historical. 60 grains under a .63 caliber ball should drop anything in Central Europe.
Yes, that is something that always charms me as well. This done just to please the maker...
Excellent video i hope i could have historical rifle like this beautiful german jager rifle
The smile shows how much fun hes having.
Beautiful, a wonderful Jager rifle! Much like my coach on the Canadian Muzzleloading Team uses! I Love your smile at 1:39... that's the smile of a man who loves the accuracy and the fun of shooting these beautiful old arms, as I do! Smiling with you, my friend, here in Canada! :)
Moving to Hungary seems like a nice option.
Good luck learning Hungarian! 😋😋
Another great video! Merry Christmas to You and all Subscribers!
Previously the only thing I knew about the Esterhazy family was that Joseph Haydn spent most of his career as the family's court composer. This was a fascinating video from several perspectives.
This is a beautiful video.....Thanks & Merry Christmas and God has Blessed you my friend...From Kentucky...USA
Great Video ! Merry Christmas from Canada !
Good luck on your hunt . What a beautiful piece of history. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year .
That rifle is art. Just amazing
I'm glad you take these old guns out and enjoy them instead of just leaving them on the shelf
I have watched this video close to a dozen times. I love this rifle! Thank you.
American rifle design was to suit the game/threat. The Atlantic states had little large game. The largest being the deer and occasional brown bear. But also squirrel. Hunting was principally on foot having arrived on horseback. Supplies were indeed a consideration. But the conditions also suited the lighter arm and calibre with a long sight radius. When the west opened there were found the buffalo, grizzly bears, elk, moose and native american tribes that took exception to that trespass on their land. Travel was on horseback in large hunting or exploring groups with pack trains. The environment demanded a large bore, heavy rifle with a shorter barrel. And, many have hundreds of miles from any trading post, the rifles had to be sturdy to survive rough handling. Hence to mountain or plains rifle.
Thanks for the addition!
She's beauty for sure, thx for the vid.
Capandball video, the best day of the week.
I always wanted an inside view of a modern proofhouse and you did a fantastic job, thank you! And fantsatic job on the powder measure reproduction
Really enjoyed the interview!
That's a beautiful firearm and an excellent shooter for it's age. Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and a happy, healthy New Year! Looking forward to more of your great videos in 2021!
Nice work, sir! That's one sweet shooter.
Top quality as always!
Another great video! Merry Christmas!
Thanks for another wonderful video sir. I've been a longtime subscriber but don't often comment. This time I had to because I grew up just north of Esterhazy, Saskatchewan in Canada. Now I know the origin of the town's name. Thanks again and all the best in 2021.
Merry Christmas too You and your family. Stay safe my friend.
Beautiful gun and I love hearing to history behind it. Keep up the great videos and merry Christmas to you and your family
Your smile after letting off the first shot is priceless. Thanks man.
This channel never ceases to amaze me! 😁😁
Absolutely wonderful. This is like shooting a Stradivarius from Cremona, only a lot more lethal... fascinating to hear about the connection the rifle has to the Esterhazy family.
That is some way impressive grouping!!! Very very good!
GREAT VIDEO.........MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!!!
You never fail to inform and entertain. Love the authenticity and history ❤❤
Always a master class!
Wonderful old rifle! Great show as always.
All the very best for 2021. Thankyou for all of your work through 2020.
I love your channel its like that old history channel show “tales of the gun” it tells the human side of the guns stories. The show talks about the culture and time the guns were made and the thoughts and reason for their making.
Love your channel. I've been hunting Pennsylvania with a Flintlock for 42 years. I've taken many Whitetail deer with it and it is more enjoyable to me than any other style of hunting. I currently have a Lyman, but eventually plan on building a Christopher Guist style Pennsylvania Flintlock rifle.
Superb video. Your rifle is a fully functional historic piece of art work! The craftsman who built it would be proud of the way you honor it, and showcase its beauty for all to see. Simply amazing! Well done sir.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours, thank you for some of the greatest videos on UA-cam. That is a beautiful 260 year old firearm that shoots extremely well.
I'm glad you left the percussion upgrade intact, especially since it had been done so well. I'll take your word for it, from my end it looks as though its supposed to be that way.
Hi!
I have also, super canals and great service!
Thank you
I always look forward to the next video
That rifle is a timeless art of art.
Thank you,capandball,....Thank You.
cap & ball you are one of the best Y T guys out there i enjoy your stuff greatley sir
Excellent video, great Man Cave. Thank you again
Great video and a beautiful rifle!
Awesome work. Please keep making content like this. Well done.
Enjoyed the complete explanation for load development, the use of the rifle and its limitations to hunting. We do not have proof houses here in the USA-very cool to see how that works. When I built my Pennsylvania flintlock rifle I loaded a triple charge and tied it to a tire and used a long string to fire it.:)
Hey cap and ball. Here's a very long winded comment about a loading trick if you care to read it. I shoot a generic run of the mill percussion .54 TC renegade with 29" green mountain slow twist ball barrel. So- here's the trick. I drilled a hole about an inch deep in the ball end of my short starter. It's like yours a round wood ball about two inches in diameter. A standard mass produced cheap starter. The hole I drilled is large enough to easily fit over the end of my rifles 3/8ths ramrod. To load, I set precut patch then ball with sprue up on the muzzle, normal fashion just like you. I grab the short starter out of my bag, set the short end on the ball and WHAP! start the ball in the barrel. Stick the long starter atop the ball and WHAP! drive the ball down a few inches. Same as you do it in this video. But where I do it different - to seat the ball on the powder- I pull the ramrod, do NOT flip it, drop it down on the ball, and insert the upper end of the rod in the hole I drilled in the short starter. WHOOSH!! in one powerful slap drive the ball down on the powder, and give it one last smack to ensure ball is solid against powder. Reseat rod, cap and fire as usual.
So, to do this without having to flip the rod twice, I ground down the widdened edge of the starter end of my ramrod so it slides down the barrel pipes. That way I don't have to flip the rod over twice for each shot. Plus I use a tough hickory rod made from the same hickory I use for heavy arrows that is very straight grained so it will bend and not split. Plus, with my rifle being 29" I can get the starter over the end of the rod and slam the ball down the barrel with the palm of my hand. No hand over handing it. Works great for me and is REAL fast. Just thought I'd mention this. Thanks for all the vids over the years.
Just found your channel. I think it's great.i do target shooting and re enacting here in the states. Important to keep the history going.
love the grin after the shot. Really having fun good for you.
I want to wish you a very merry Christmas
Love your videos. Try to watch every one of them. Have to say that this rifle is the very best and most interesting rifle you've done so far. A percussion Yeager. I'd never dreamed it. Keep up the great work little brother. Ya'll have a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Beautiful Rifle, full of history 👌🏻
The big smile at the beginning after you knock down the popper says it all.
Excellent as usual, greeting 's from Australia
Truly magnificent and elegant rifle, I wish you a happy Christmas and a new year with many "new ancient" weapons
Wow. What an awesome specimen. Hungarian history.
Makes me Hungary for more videos!
Another excellent video. Very informative on the proofing process
Ahogy jóideje látom ez az egyik legnépszerűbb csatorna, nemcsak a vadász és "fegyverbolondok", de a laikusok körében is. Nálam már állami kitüntetés, legalább tisztikereszt járna ezért a tevékenységért, és vele együtt Magyarország népszerűsítéséért...hatalmas respect!!! 👏👌
Nagyon szépen köszönöm! Ritka, amikor hazánk fia dicséri egy másik magyar munkáját! Boldog Karácsonyt!
Merry C&NY to you also thanks
Love it. Keep it coming. Thank you!
Excellent rifle!
Thanks Cap for another extremely interesting & entertaining video! 👍
I love your work and I hope UA-cam is paying you for all of the ads they run on your video.
Beautiful firearm
❤❤❤❤ Beautiful rifle. Jaegers are my favorite
Very nice, Merry Christmas.
Recently found your channel,and subscribed.
Always very informative, educational and fun. I'm giving up centerfires and inlines and going back to patch and ball.
I've always had more fun with them,and done well on whitetail deer.
Thats a beauty for sure and we can all see that you enjoy to shoot with it. 👍👍 And it was a very nice idea to official shooting of the gun. I do it with all my selfmade guns as well. Beginning of next year I hope I will get a apointment for the official shoot of my new build 20 gauge double flintlock shotgun 😁😆
best for the new year
That was very interesting, thank you very much. Have an nice and healthy 2021!
Well Worth the wait, and then some😄thank you!
Great Video ! 👍👍👍
"We have a hunters group here, not a precision shooting group." My new favorite saying.
:) I have more of that :)
Understood. Those two groups can be very dissimilar....and not even close.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and those you love and cherish. I do appreciate the video content that you produce and I watch every video. I have to say when I looked at the rifle at the very beginning of the video I could have sworn you were holding a Hawken .50 caliber rifle. The only real difference that I would say was really obvious would be the style of the lands and grooves of the rifling of these two rifles. I have a .50 caliber Hawken that was made in the mid 1970s and a hand made Kentucky rifle in .36 caliber made somewhere at the turn of the 20th century around 1900. Both of my rifles are capable of 1/2" to 1" groups at both 50 and 100 yards using simple leaf front post and square notch rear sights graduated out to 300 yards. I love to shoot black powder and don't shoot nearly as often as I did when I was younger. I have hunted with both rifles where I live and have missed shots with these rifles only when I made a mistake which was not often. I know some guys who think having the latest and baddest new rifles is the best thing to have but somehow shooting a single shot black powder rifle makes you a much better marksman because you want and need your shot to count because most of the time it is going to be the only shot you get. I am glad that I ran across your channel a few years ago and I love the way you go into the details of what you are presenting as the subject. Not too many channels can do what you do and you are great at what you do. I hope to continue to watch your content in the future and thanks again.
Beautiful rifle. 😍
Eu apreciei este vídeo. A fotografia é bela e o clima é de serenidade e harmonia, o rifle é absolutamente lindo. Isso é arte. Agradeço por compartilhar. Brasil.
Always want one those in its Fire lock form for living history
Excellent Video!
Envious now.
My hunting rifle is a mere babe - a cut down US M1898 rifle made in 1900. A beautiful carbine for me much as your rifle is for you.
Extraordinary gun 👍!
I have an original 1780 Jaeger still flint lock, fired 40 rounds, not a single failure
WE NEED VIDEOS MORE OFTEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Steve, I wish I could post more without downgrading quality. Next will be the hunting video of the 18th century jager, followed by the Smith carbine.
Nice rifle . Merry Christmas to you !! I was wondering if you could do a video on lead hardness and casting on how you do it for your rifles . I'm sure it would be of interest to many and I would appreciate your ideas and compare to what I know here in the states .
ok, I'll put that on the list. There are several videos in my list that deal with casting.
@@capandball thanks
21:55 Nice metal work. Don't see many guys with hacksaws anymore.
I am a Patreon for him, great content!
Those rifling grooves are insane lol, could fit a .22 in one groove. Wonder how much gas is lost travelling around the patch and ball
Yes and no. The grooves are very deep at the muzzle and become much shallower soon. That was done to make loading easier, it has some kind of "funnel" effect.
I have an original side by side Fowler 24 guage with the 31.75" barrels made by Schilling in Suhl that I bought online. I was really surprised at how light and balanced it was when I got it. I have a normal modern 28 guage side by side and it's substantially heavier than the Schilling and probably honestly less comfortable and natural pointing than the old caplock. Based on my research and finding some other really similarly designed guns by the same maker I believe it was made in the 1830s but I'm definitely not an expert. It was also interesting for me to see the way muzzleloader legality is handled in Europe. In America, other than a few obnoxiously strict states, muzzleloaders aren't regulated as firearms. You just have to be 18 to buy them they don't come with any of the associated paperwork or formalities.
Thanks for the video. It's refreshing to see a guy load in one minute. If you take out using the second horn. A whole lot better than most of the "HEY loookee here! Now this here's how you load a mz. lemmee tell yuh whut." on youtube that takes two minutes-or five minutes- loading from a bench fumbling around with everything with no clue of how to load from actuallyhaving done it thousands of times. They don't know s%$# from shinola. You've done this alot. Good job. I load patch and ball in my .54 in one minute from my pouch, and that includes blowing down the barrel, pulling and reseating the rod. But that is when I'm full throttle gettin after it. Been shooting that .54 since 1990. btw subbed and liked.
Happy holidays, everyone.
I realy love this video.
What a great firearm and I’m looking forward to seeing a video of it on the hunt. How do you measure your hunting load so that it meets the regulations? I’ll be hunting our Pennsylvania late season with a new .62 caliber flintlock Jäger my grandfather built me inspired by an original Brandenburg School by Von Der Fecht. Your video makes me want to plan a trip across the pond soon!
1:31 inches is a really fast twist rate for a .63 caliber round ball rifle.. Im surprised at the accuracy you were getting with patched round balls in such a fast bore.. Do you have a video on twist rates on these original european muzzle loaders? Would like to hear your thoughts on the subject.. This rifle would probably shoot Conicals really well..