Check seems reasonable, depending on player history. What is AA getting value from on river in a 4-bet pot where villain called out-of-position pre? KK and QQ jam flop, maybe even JJ too. TT and 99 are boats. 88- would be spewy calls pre, these should have been folded (even calling a 4-bet with 99 OOP is questionable), and would not probably not call river anyway. Out of AT, only AcTc (one hand) might call two streets and that's already an unlikely call pre. JTs folds on flop. T9 is two-pair on river. Title is a pretty big overstatement at best.
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I dont know 😁 in that situation with AA i am probably showing only 70% of time. Is it really that bad to check back sometimes if you feel that dildo is coming from behind?
The x back with AA is losing a lot at equilibrium, but this is simply because it is reliant on you calling down with hands like 88/77/66 and even some AQ etc. If he doesn't think you are going to call these hands, then there is no point in jamming AA cos then it's losing to more calls than its beating- 3 combos of JJ (which it beats), but 6 combos of TT/99 and then some random A5s and perhaps even 65s if you 3bet that pre (all of which it loses to). However JJ will also often jam on the flop or on the turn, so you can discount these combos even further. So likely your opponent made a pretty good exploitative adjustment, and would jam for value there only against opponents that are going to call him down with those very marginal bluff catchers- 88-66 and AQ high. Cos if you aren't willing to call these combos then he isn't incentivised to ever jam AA/KK etc for value. Pretty smart play from him imo.
Not sure if you are trolling given the last line of this but i'll give my explanation 6 combos of JJ, not 3, and you cannot just discount QQ and KK because I shove sometimes. I flat pre sometimes, and if I'm not mistaken, QQ doesn't raise often on this flop type (which seems weird to me) He had 0 hands on me (afaik, although could have watched the stream), but even if he had he would know that against an unknown regs, I would much rather call what I am supposed to call against an unknown than overfold HARD and be exploited The point is, this simple is not a spot where I call 0 worse hands than AA. If you're beat, you're beat. Stick it in and take it like a man
@@Weazel1991 Well clearly we have different pre flop ranges cos in my sims JJ is mixing jam and call pre flop (hence the 3 combos) and KK/QQ pure jam pre flop. I'm not quite sure why you would ever wanna just call these hands pre flop from these positions tbh, but I guess if your sims say that then fair enough. So (at least according to my ranges) if you don't have KK/QQ pre flop, and only half the combos of JJ, then you will have too many sets relative to weaker combos for him to value bet against (unless you call off those very marginal combos that I listed). The fact that you call these players nits would mean that it seems extremely unlikely you are going to look to bluff catch them for 3 streets with AQ or 66- which is what I imagine he was thinking too. Unless I was playing against a station reg (or a fish) then I wouldn't expect my opponent to call these hands down either. Thus making his x back good imo. But yeah if you have KK/QQ then it could become a value jam, even if you (or the player pool) aren't calling off with enough of the weakest bluff catching combos on this line. Also there's no way for your opponent to even know you were over folding, given the fact that all the AQ/88/77/66 etc combos are mixing otr. You can easily just say 'i rolled a fold' if you are concerned about your opponent exploiting you. Though this spot arises so infrequently that I highly doubt he would have the chance to exploit you again any time soon, even if you said that you were never gonna bluff catch here.
@@andrewdinns1746 Yes JJ is mixing jams pre flop and raising on the flop sometimes (I can't remember the exact frequency now tbh as it was a while ago). So realistically you are probably looking at 1-2 combos of JJ by the river.
You could see a few really good and bad players in that session. The king flush not getting greedy had a good feeling he may be winning but would not risk it all , knowing the ace was possible.More possible in these games
you can tell when Weazel has played over an hour on GG because the software starts lagging and shitting the bed whenever the UK gambling banner shows up. Its crazy how they dont fix that nonsense for us
I genuinely want to know your opinion on ACR and GG. With all these bot allegations do you think playing on these sites (GTO) is still profitable for winning live players?
This is exactly why i stopped playing in GG and why you dont see me in those tables anymore, all full of nits stains, that coupled with the insane abusive rake just not worth it at all unless you play NL5k or higher, those are probably the only stakes worth playing in GG.
@@LinusHate congrats for reaching those stakes man. But I get the point you mentioned. Watching Weazels Videos, seeing the behavior of micro Pool we can make heuristics that's is a red thread through out the whole player pool.
@@mzockt Ok but wtf are you saying about me playing 25NL i havent touched those brokies stakes in years, even on GG i used to mix zoom 200 and 500/1000NL
The way to beat high rake is to play tight (at least pre flop). Also, I dunno why people complain about nits, you just end up winning more pots than you 'should' against them cos of their passivity. Sure it's annoying when you have value and they make a tight x back, but it's great all those other times when they give up with a bluff and you win with A/K high etc, or when they fold to your bluffs.
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I think the A3cc hand call loses quite a bit of EV actually. If he shows up there with 98o he certainly shows up with worse flushes like 98cc and 97cc and 10x with a club which i think both have to call at some frequency. I think shove has to be the play there.
Yeah you literally just lose to KT. He can easily have a weaker flush, Tx etc and if he has KT then GG. Maybe if you were 150bb+ deep then calling is okay, but at 100bb then you just go broke.
98cc and 54cc almost pre raise flop, and is 45s really calling a shove after taking this line? Honestly if you play 100-500NL on GG you'll know that a lot of the players are on the tighter side, regs included This does mean I should open up bluffing range in spots like this on river (as players will overfold), but i think its hard for me to have obvious bluff candidates plus honestly, I think his line is a bluff WAY too often
@@Weazel1991 Yeah I only play 1k on GG occasionally tbh, so I don't have many solid reads on the player pool. It just doesn't seem worth playing tbh due to the insanely high rake- unless you are able to game select hard and get on tables with big whales. That's true about pre flop. I guess it just depends what he is doing with Tx. If these guys aren't using this sizing with non boat Tx, and aren't willing to call off with some random flushes etc, then calling makes sense. It's like the AA hand where he checks back vs your 99- if you aren't willing to call off with some random AQ, 88/77 etc then he just wants to x back. However from my own perspective I am fist pump jamming and watching them pure call all their Tx :D It's good when you have value, but annoying when you find a bluff and they snap call T9 no club.
You know that your results and stats are public on gg? So that guy that xb AA is a winning aggro 1k reg, and your stats suggest that you are a hopeless nit?
this always cracks me up. people act like you haven't played 10k hands with them and have some semblance of how they play. There is literally players that have 9 VPiP who will jam on you then talk shit when you fold AQ preflop. It's astounding to me people think this isn't public information haha
So I'm a fun player so nothing I say holds any water, the way I'm seeing the hand if I'm op. Flatting the 4 bet, ruling out Kings, would imagine at some frequency queen's but in the small blind would think 9's through Jack's. Then flatting flop, turn bet, it would make sense to some degree a boat. However ngl I probably would have put a small value bet on the river, but hey early days of learning so everything I said could be complete garbage. Great content recently started watching and I am learning so much already!
Poker is a wonderful, very complex game. When you take out bluffing (effectively what the nits do), it makes it more 2 dimensional where we just go "does my hand beat value? No? Fold". Because they are too scared to put money in with nothing Plus being a streamer, it creates a really awkward dynamic where I can't just fold everything on the off chance (which has happened) they watch the stream and can just shove everything on river
That was a soul read with the AA checkback. He probably thought u don't have KK or QQ as you would jam those pre..only hand that calls him is JJ and even that is thin. I don't mind his c/back vs a good player like urself!
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Check seems reasonable, depending on player history. What is AA getting value from on river in a 4-bet pot where villain called out-of-position pre? KK and QQ jam flop, maybe even JJ too. TT and 99 are boats. 88- would be spewy calls pre, these should have been folded (even calling a 4-bet with 99 OOP is questionable), and would not probably not call river anyway. Out of AT, only AcTc (one hand) might call two streets and that's already an unlikely call pre. JTs folds on flop. T9 is two-pair on river. Title is a pretty big overstatement at best.
I guess he is protecting his river check back range.😂
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I haven't felt this disgusted since Stainpan flatted Bean's river bet with a boat.
Just waiting for the "his check back isn't that bad tbh" comments from stains
I dont know 😁 in that situation with AA i am probably showing only 70% of time. Is it really that bad to check back sometimes if you feel that dildo is coming from behind?
His check back isnt that bad tbh. Deep in your toes you know that.
@@Weazel1991Check back is 100% the right play. From a fellow stain
The x back with AA is losing a lot at equilibrium, but this is simply because it is reliant on you calling down with hands like 88/77/66 and even some AQ etc. If he doesn't think you are going to call these hands, then there is no point in jamming AA cos then it's losing to more calls than its beating- 3 combos of JJ (which it beats), but 6 combos of TT/99 and then some random A5s and perhaps even 65s if you 3bet that pre (all of which it loses to).
However JJ will also often jam on the flop or on the turn, so you can discount these combos even further.
So likely your opponent made a pretty good exploitative adjustment, and would jam for value there only against opponents that are going to call him down with those very marginal bluff catchers- 88-66 and AQ high. Cos if you aren't willing to call these combos then he isn't incentivised to ever jam AA/KK etc for value. Pretty smart play from him imo.
Not sure if you are trolling given the last line of this but i'll give my explanation
6 combos of JJ, not 3, and you cannot just discount QQ and KK because I shove sometimes. I flat pre sometimes, and if I'm not mistaken, QQ doesn't raise often on this flop type (which seems weird to me)
He had 0 hands on me (afaik, although could have watched the stream), but even if he had he would know that against an unknown regs, I would much rather call what I am supposed to call against an unknown than overfold HARD and be exploited
The point is, this simple is not a spot where I call 0 worse hands than AA. If you're beat, you're beat. Stick it in and take it like a man
@@Weazel1991 Well clearly we have different pre flop ranges cos in my sims JJ is mixing jam and call pre flop (hence the 3 combos) and KK/QQ pure jam pre flop. I'm not quite sure why you would ever wanna just call these hands pre flop from these positions tbh, but I guess if your sims say that then fair enough.
So (at least according to my ranges) if you don't have KK/QQ pre flop, and only half the combos of JJ, then you will have too many sets relative to weaker combos for him to value bet against (unless you call off those very marginal combos that I listed).
The fact that you call these players nits would mean that it seems extremely unlikely you are going to look to bluff catch them for 3 streets with AQ or 66- which is what I imagine he was thinking too. Unless I was playing against a station reg (or a fish) then I wouldn't expect my opponent to call these hands down either. Thus making his x back good imo.
But yeah if you have KK/QQ then it could become a value jam, even if you (or the player pool) aren't calling off with enough of the weakest bluff catching combos on this line.
Also there's no way for your opponent to even know you were over folding, given the fact that all the AQ/88/77/66 etc combos are mixing otr. You can easily just say 'i rolled a fold' if you are concerned about your opponent exploiting you. Though this spot arises so infrequently that I highly doubt he would have the chance to exploit you again any time soon, even if you said that you were never gonna bluff catch here.
@@Demondoink1 isn't JJ raising flop some too? defo no full 6 combos JJ for AA to expect to xc.
@@andrewdinns1746 Yes JJ is mixing jams pre flop and raising on the flop sometimes (I can't remember the exact frequency now tbh as it was a while ago).
So realistically you are probably looking at 1-2 combos of JJ by the river.
“How do you not bet the turn there?” As you proceed to not bet the turn as well with the exact same hand
Turn card is better for IP player, right?
nuance is important
Oh so he’s supposed to just bet into the four bettor out of flow cause he made his hand. How stupid are you?
Positioning plays a part
You could see a few really good and bad players in that session. The king flush not getting greedy had a good feeling he may be winning but would not risk it all , knowing the ace was possible.More possible in these games
Turns out the online cash streets are not ded yet.
That Ak read in the 4 bet pot was real nice dude, mega props
Very, very smart check back with aces. The correct play.
not really lmao but the timing tell on the rivercheck was pretty brutal there
you can tell when Weazel has played over an hour on GG because the software starts lagging and shitting the bed whenever the UK gambling banner shows up. Its crazy how they dont fix that nonsense for us
I genuinely want to know your opinion on ACR and GG. With all these bot allegations do you think playing on these sites (GTO) is still profitable for winning live players?
Short answer: yes. I've spoke a lot about it on stream
@@Weazel1991 thanks for response. Love the stream bro great content.
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Speechless is the word. Nice one Weazel.
You don't have to be trappy on every river. You're allowed to bet your good hands sometimes. That 99 hand was a travesty of missed value.
This is exactly why i stopped playing in GG and why you dont see me in those tables anymore, all full of nits stains, that coupled with the insane abusive rake just not worth it at all unless you play NL5k or higher, those are probably the only stakes worth playing in GG.
But I see a player with your exact name in GG 25NL rush and cash with a VPIP of 18....
@@mzockt Ok, i play 1K NL/2k NL now, not on GG, i took all of my funds from GG Poker out already so you are definitely wrong lmao.
@@LinusHate congrats for reaching those stakes man. But I get the point you mentioned. Watching Weazels Videos, seeing the behavior of micro Pool we can make heuristics that's is a red thread through out the whole player pool.
@@mzockt Ok but wtf are you saying about me playing 25NL i havent touched those brokies stakes in years, even on GG i used to mix zoom 200 and 500/1000NL
The way to beat high rake is to play tight (at least pre flop). Also, I dunno why people complain about nits, you just end up winning more pots than you 'should' against them cos of their passivity. Sure it's annoying when you have value and they make a tight x back, but it's great all those other times when they give up with a bluff and you win with A/K high etc, or when they fold to your bluffs.
4sQs: I was thinking what are we expecting villain to overbet/call here, JsTs? ...LOL!
I saw your 50 blitz video now you’re at 500. Did you move up from 50 since last year ?
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Yeah noticed this whilst editing. Didn't think someone would point it out tho ;)
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I think the A3cc hand call loses quite a bit of EV actually. If he shows up there with 98o he certainly shows up with worse flushes like 98cc and 97cc and 10x with a club which i think both have to call at some frequency. I think shove has to be the play there.
Yeah you literally just lose to KT. He can easily have a weaker flush, Tx etc and if he has KT then GG. Maybe if you were 150bb+ deep then calling is okay, but at 100bb then you just go broke.
98cc and 54cc almost pre raise flop, and is 45s really calling a shove after taking this line?
Honestly if you play 100-500NL on GG you'll know that a lot of the players are on the tighter side, regs included
This does mean I should open up bluffing range in spots like this on river (as players will overfold), but i think its hard for me to have obvious bluff candidates plus honestly, I think his line is a bluff WAY too often
@@Weazel1991 Yeah I only play 1k on GG occasionally tbh, so I don't have many solid reads on the player pool. It just doesn't seem worth playing tbh due to the insanely high rake- unless you are able to game select hard and get on tables with big whales.
That's true about pre flop. I guess it just depends what he is doing with Tx. If these guys aren't using this sizing with non boat Tx, and aren't willing to call off with some random flushes etc, then calling makes sense.
It's like the AA hand where he checks back vs your 99- if you aren't willing to call off with some random AQ, 88/77 etc then he just wants to x back.
However from my own perspective I am fist pump jamming and watching them pure call all their Tx :D It's good when you have value, but annoying when you find a bluff and they snap call T9 no club.
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You know that your results and stats are public on gg? So that guy that xb AA is a winning aggro 1k reg, and your stats suggest that you are a hopeless nit?
where are these public results/stats? i'm not aware of any site that does that?
this always cracks me up. people act like you haven't played 10k hands with them and have some semblance of how they play. There is literally players that have 9 VPiP who will jam on you then talk shit when you fold AQ preflop. It's astounding to me people think this isn't public information haha
So I'm a fun player so nothing I say holds any water, the way I'm seeing the hand if I'm op. Flatting the 4 bet, ruling out Kings, would imagine at some frequency queen's but in the small blind would think 9's through Jack's. Then flatting flop, turn bet, it would make sense to some degree a boat. However ngl I probably would have put a small value bet on the river, but hey early days of learning so everything I said could be complete garbage. Great content recently started watching and I am learning so much already!
Is that you in the video checking back the aces? I genuinely can't see why anyone else would have this kind of reaction to the video.
Your mental game is so much improved since a year ago.
It was played during christmas So probably superuser checking back aces
Genuinely a little worried about this...
Love the videos but the smacking lips and smacking your tongue everytime you start a sentence is nails on a chalkboard 😬
Yeah realised my noise gate filters haven't been on. Plus probably need a pop filter. My bad
Ngl, the title brought me here.
Is that the real Andrew Tate there 35:34? Romania checks out.
Lol no I don't think so but I think he does play
Congrats on your Triton success. Well deserved.
I'll save this for later cheers
Strong possibility he had a hack on
You play pretty well
lol this is so funny what an epic nit
Why do you get so mad with nits?
Poker is a wonderful, very complex game. When you take out bluffing (effectively what the nits do), it makes it more 2 dimensional where we just go "does my hand beat value? No? Fold". Because they are too scared to put money in with nothing
Plus being a streamer, it creates a really awkward dynamic where I can't just fold everything on the off chance (which has happened) they watch the stream and can just shove everything on river
easy check AA obviously.
That was a soul read with the AA checkback. He probably thought u don't have KK or QQ as you would jam those pre..only hand that calls him is JJ and even that is thin. I don't mind his c/back vs a good player like urself!