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I think I finally figured out why you annoy me so much! I thought it was your nasally voice and your droopy sad face, but actually it is because you are a grievance-monger. You dig back to find some random historical factoid about your (let's be honest) mostly white heritage. Then you drill down to find the grievance. And you always find it and talk about it so solemnly with your sad, sad face. It's so negative. Like part of your family is Italian. And you could spin that really positively if you wanted. They might not have been treated that great, but they were allowed to come to America and build their dreams. It seems like your Italian family did really well, great careers, lake houses, nice cars, etc. So that's a success story. Or your million times removed mulatto grandmother. Well, she married outside her race and her descendants did fine. So that's good, right? But noooooo it's always the grievance-mongering. Eighty generations back my grandfather was called a neeee grow and he couldn't vote, omg I cried so much..... Fifty generations back my native ancestor had to live on a reservation, oh meee oh myyyy I cried so hard..... and then you wonder why race relations are SO BAD. Whelp you are part of the problem. I have NEVER EVER heard you say anything positive about European people ever. I have NEVER seen you express any interest in your mostly European heritage ever. You go straight for the grievance, every single time. You're part French right? No interest. You're part Irish, right? No interest because your eleventy millionth Irish grandfather was a bigot. Which is actually unusual for an Irish person, so that sounds more like a 'your family' problem than an Irish problem. Back then, life was hard for everyone. Why don't you ever talk about black on black crime? Or the massive efforts America has made to level the playing field? Just grievance after grievance, as if you are looking for reasons for people to feel victimized. Very unhelpful in the larger scheme of things.
Thank you, Miss Romero! These video treatises that you do on the Melungeons, are the best so far, on a forgotten people in the United States. Heather did a great job of illuminating these people and other facts. Look forward to others that you will do, especially on Black/Italian interactions here. Peace
Roma, Jewish, Mulungeon. My three biggest markers according to my DNA results. Absolutely no one in my family can explain ANY of those. My people are from NC, SC, TN, GA, and AL. Like so many others I was told I had a heavy native American ancestry. I do not. Common story.
@@vanessareedhawaiinani the Pirae captain Jean Lafitte was Sephardic Jewish on his mother's side. Many of the Pirates of the Caribbean were Sephardic Jews who got letters of Marque from the English to prey upon Spanish shipping in revenge for being expelled from Spain. Sephardic Jews have been in the Colonies since the very beginning. They did not hide it, much, though.
I am an adoptee and without evidence people questioned me asking me are you a Mulungeons? Even my parents who adopted me questioned this also. I darken quickly in the sun without hardly burning though I have blue eyes and at birth and as a toddler my hair was black like my biological father. Even with age on occasion someone will ask me are you a mulungeon? I always thank anyone who ask me that. I see it as a compliment. I haven't had any genetics done yet to tell me what I am but whoever is is in me I see this as a gift.
I have almost the same story and am in tears watching this. We’re mixed Roma, Indigenous, English from West Virginia, and my gram straight up told me we were “melungeon mutts” growing up. 😆 the pics of my ancestors are wild too. Definitely have the bump, but sometimes I question if that’s a legitimate thing? On the more unexplainable or esoteric side, I will say there’s some epigenetic information in me that has innately drawn me to certain interests and I have organic understanding of things that are unexplainable.
Shovel teeth are a common indigenous trait (check this out from an anthropological and evolutionary perspective) and that’s why western dentists are always messing up our teeth. 😂
It’s been said that the bump is a Turkish trait, but there is no proof of that as true. However, most north Europeans have this trait, as well, especially those located in Sweden. The theory is that is a Neanderthal trait and comes from the admixture of early Europeans with Neanderthal. Interesting, huh! Love your show. I’m learning a lot from hour channel. Thank you, great show!
Well, idk which one you refer to but I have a very lumpy head, so I probably have that one, as well. I do have the usual Neanderthal percentage, somewhere around 2%, I think. *(I'm not Melungeon. My family seems to have completely bypassed the Appalachians, in all the branches.) I do have a small quantity of "probably Swedish" (Ancestry keeps changing its mind; something Scandinavian.) Other than that I'm Scottish/other Celtic groups/English.
@@MelissaThompson432 remember that the % of Neanderthal is unique to Neanderthals, there was much more untraceable DNA because the species had so much in common. Some say that if you count the common DNA we'd be up to 20%+.
Explore Bela Fleck’s banjo music(he has a documentary about the banjo as well) He approaches banjo from both American and African influence. Also worth noting that country and bluegrass music are direct derivatives from African music(my degree was in bluegrass music from East Tennessee state university.)
African music is one of the major influencs in Bluegrass music (mostly blues influenced) but not the only one. Old Time music (which is not Bluegrass, which is a 20th century invention) is a huge influence as well. Of course Old Time has African roots too, but a huge part is from England, Ireland and Scotland as well as some German and Native influenes. You could just as easily say Bluegrass and Country are diret derivatives from European music, and you'd be right. American folk music is a melange of influences from everyone who came to America or who is originally from America.
@@PapaPhilip lots of documentation on how Bill Monroe and Hank Williams both learned songs and skills directly from black musicians before Bluegrass and country were even considered genres, and one can most certainly also hear Irish/Scottish and Gaelic influences(likely from the folks who settled Appalachia, a tri-racial mix) fascinating to think of how these genres are perceived vs. how they originated. Was a fun and enlightening performance based degree program there at ETSU for sure.
@@BirdDogg We agree. I was not disputing or disagreeing with you, but I made my comment because your comment made it sound as if it was the only direct influence, not one of many. You'll note that I did not downplay the African American influence. I'm aware that Arnold Schulz, the son of a slave, and friend of Bill Monroe was a major influence in thumb style guitar playing (which influenced Doc Watson and Merle Travis). Of course the Blues and Jazz also have European influences as well as major African influences. It's a beautiful mix of music.I think it's really important to maintain the mutual influences and interplay of cultures that makes a new American culture. I've seen too many people on all sides saying "this is ours, and you stole it" kind of thing and I really don't like that because it becomes divisive rather than uniting. Even Gospel music has been shown to be a mix of European (specifically Hebridean Scottish style of singing) and African inluences. We're all in this together.
@@PapaPhilip Oh, no worries, I didn’t take it that way, was just agreeing and adding a bit more context to my comment due to her surprise at the banjo being African. In my experiences as a touring bluegrass musician most common folks assume bluegrass derived from mountain folks, or Irish roots. it’s really fascinating to me how few folks of color realize their influence on the various aspects of musical culture and is always exciting to see their discoveries and exploration of the music, was just expounding on things folks might want to explore more.
What people don’t realize is that African Americans in the piedmont region of North Carolina specifically Rockingham, Guilford, Caswell and Alamance counties are lighter skinned, red undertones, redbone, mulatto and mixed. Most identify as Black but their heritages are mixed with Scottish, Scots Irish and Some British. The plantations were smaller and greater chances of racial intermixing. Specifically family names such as Courts, Watlington, Stokes, Simpson, Graves, etc.
Fascinating. Evidence of people who seem to have been by today’s descriptors really inclusive and had a notion of living in a very integrated way and somehow remained under the radar for the longest time!
Another note, your discussion brought up Chavis, Locklear, Oxendine, etc and the Lumbee. Just throwing in my piece of that puzzle. Last year I discovered several of my DNA matches who connect to that community. One of my shared matches with them is someone I have been collaborating with in hopes to solve a brick wall they have. We felt like our connection was somehow related to ancestors we know were in New Jersey with very early French and Dutch heritage. I tried to explore the trees of these matches for a hint of which of their ancestors may have come from that region. I never could find it, and it's still a mystery to me where our connection might be. I ended up spending a lot of time learning about the Lumbee culture, which is fascinating and full of great stories. They have lots of UA-cam videos on various channels, you can look up. In their stories is an Oxendine who went to Tennessee, changed their name to Exendine. Another line, I forget which, has another obscure origin story where a surname was purposely changed. So the answer may never be found.
You were talking about the banjo, you should search another North Carolinian Rhiannon Giddens she plays the banjo and is featured on a new country album by B. She talks about the history of the banjo
I really do love this work. I started looking at these Melungeon people and I know I've seen them before. There is a group of islands off the coast of Honduras called the bay islands. In the 1870s there was a large influx of Americans. These Americans came to be called los caracoles. Caracol is sea shell. Many were confederates fleeing the south post union victory. The caracoles are mainly on an island called Utila. Not 100 percent sure, but judging by the look many must have been Melungeon. Utila is a great dive spot and coral viewing area.
@@nytn American southerners also fled to Belize post civil war. They are part of creole population. Very mixed with Africans and east indians now. Amongst them I'm sure you'll find those with Melungeon ancestry. Brazil also received them in Sao Paulo state. They still celebrate dia de confederados. They've blended into the general Brazilian population. You can easily google confederates in Brazil. I think I saw them on Utila island Honduras. Honduras locals call them the white black people. Not a pejorative just a convenient descriptor. Google utila great place for a diving and sailing family.
These “Confederates” were more likely just that, folks who fled after the secessionists lost the Civil War. There were others migrated up into what we know as western Canadian provinces, then others down into and past Central America. Of this latter group you’ll find cultural remnants from the United States. And yes they brought their beliefs with them. There’s also Irish descendants (San Patricio)in Mexico who fought on the side of Mexico in even earlier conflicts with USA.
Thank you for this video! I have several Melungeon surnames in my family, I know of at least one Melungeon ancestor in my family (just started researching) My DNA test showed Irish Scottish, German and then a small amount of indigenous, south Asian, middle eastern and North African (Egyptian) and SSA. Me and all my relatives on my dads side have the AA CG skin genotype (the CG is very rarely found in Europeans) when it is it is usually found in southern Europe which I do not have. Thank you for your videos they have helped me SO much in exploring my heritage. I always wondered why people usually don’t think that I’m fully white and why my dad’s side of the family has very dark skin and features despite being mostly white. Keep up the good work Danielle!
Hi James here from Ireland aged 70 Just discovered your channel and find it really interesting as I have always been interested in history What I want to say is that my ears pricked up when you mentioned generational trauma as my mother who was born in 1915 in Ireland used to say that she didn’t care where she was buried as long as it wasn’t on the side of the road . No one ever knew what this meant but after bout 20 years after her death I spoke with a lady who had written a book about the effect of the famine in my locality in Ireland circa 1857 I told her of my mother’s strange comment and she replied that this is a common folk memory of the famine in Ireland The reason is that so many people died that the normal services were so overwhelmed that a lot of people were buried where they died , on the side of the road.😢 Also in the same vein I was told that the nursery rhyme ‘ Ring a ring a Rosie A pocket full of posies Atishoo! Atishoo! We all fall down’ Is a folk memory from the great plague of London circa 1666 Keep up the good work 😊 I really enjoy your channel 👍😎🎶
As someone who grew up knowing they’re Melungeon and as someone who’s straight down historical Melungeon lines, it’s a little weird to me that the PRESIDENT of a Melungeon organization didn’t actually grow up knowing they were Melungeon. Maybe it’s just me, but it would make more sense to have a President who didn’t have to research and speculate about their history so much.
I do have Davis on my Mom’s side. Her maternal great grandpa was a Davis. Her grandma always said she had either Jewish or Cherokee (she’d interchange it).
Hee hee Irish born 26 % Irish ethnicity. A while back I came across surnames like Bunch, Gibson, Moore and Miner/Minor. Miner is listed on my ancestry account as one of the most common names in peoples trees. Whilst watching a previous vid of yours I paused and typed in Goins, and what looks like a 4/5 great grandmother. The dna matches had big swathes of Aegean islands percentage. There was Nigerian, Senegalese, Western Bantu, Native American and Eastern European Roma to name a tiny few ethnicities! So I found a low centimorgan match and the guy looked like a long lost twin! I’m fairly dark and go like an orangey brown hue when the sun comes out for 3 days in a row in Ireland (a rare occurrence)! My relative (my long lost “twin” had slightly darker skin and a slightly pointier nose. That’s basically the only difference! I have a slightly larger head than normal, I got teased in school for it. My dad’s head shape is similar but not quite as large. My son has black hair and my grandson’s mother’s family are from Jamaica, as are some of mine. My son and his son are quite light skinned, even though my grandson would be considered at least 50 % African from his mother’s side of the family. Because he’s only 3 his hair may change from practically white and his eyes are dark blue, like his dad! At age 3 his eye colour probably won’t change. My son also has coppery tones in his beard! Great work, Danielle!
Danielle you should do a video on the Atlantic Creoles, many of the melungeon families and redbones descended from them. Might be an interesting through line
i grew up in church hill,tn in 1960's through 1988. That community is about a 50 mile drive east of melungeon community located in sneedville commu city in hancocke coynty,tn. I went through high school in late 1870's till 1982 with many kids who were great to great grandkids of melungeon families by names of colins,owens,davis,goins,mullins,Sizemore, fugates and gibson's. Many were more olive complexion kids like I was. I have jones,nichols,riddle,clark.kings and sharps in my direct bloodlines who have all lived in northeast Tennessee since the 1770 to 1780's. Also I have several family lines that came out of western nc region where they lived by mid 1740's until 1770's before they crossed the mountains to settle in the Johnson city/jonesborough and Erwin areas. Those surnames were duggers,hughes,anderson,huskins,garlands,loudys,estepps,webbs,martins,tapps/ tappticos,halls,Steven's,yates,andersons,conrads,little johns,shells/schells,Shaw duncans,mulkey,plotts and Ellis. I have the shovel concave shaped front top teeth and the big Anatolian ledge on the bottom of my skull. I also have blueish grey colored eyes. During summertime I can also tan a deep reddish brown color. I am also 3 rd to 4 th cousins with some Lowry and revels folks. Must come through my grandma Julia (Jones) dentons line as she grew up in hendersonville,nc, I also have Anderson's and Hughes on my mom's/mother's side. Her grandma mary Loudy was a garlands. She grew up over in yancey county,nc by burnsville area. There are Anderson's in the lumbee Indian tribe.
No I don’t. There was a Mrs Rosser that taught at Jefferson Forest and I believe her husband and son worked at bwxt. I’ve known of Rosser’s around town for a long time.
@edglass9912 I went to a place called new dominion with a kid named Cody Rosser in 2006 I was 13 then I'm 31 now. He was 16 then so he be about 33. Had long hair back then really I to heavy metal music. Been trying to reach my brother Cody for a long time but can't find him anywhere if you see them around show them this
Shovel teeth is definitely a thing. I took an anthropology course in college. Native Americans have shovel teeth - or at least the ones we learned of. I think we were talking about the area of Mexico in this class.
Loving the fact that u are embracing the natural hair🫶🏽 I did so in 2013 and it was a moment where I also realized how difficult the coming to home process would be….As always sending love to my NY sister💪🏽❤️
Slightly related story from my college days in early 1970s. My university is in the midwest. This was a time of civil rights, the Vietnam war and more. Many of the students from the area were Jewish. When the black students started wearing their Afros, some of the Jewish kids let loose theirs, too. I had led a sheltered life, thinking all whites had straight hair. So, i guess those kids were freeing themselves too. The longer i live, the more assumptions i have to unlearn. If we don’t know each other all we do is assume. I always respect those who ask instead of assuming.
@@dplj4428Being from NY we argue the features of the Jewish just as we do the Italians, whom also very easily grow beautiful Afros….It’s an experience to see firsthand. My hair is still natural, healthy and mid back when pulled🫶🏽
My family is Goines and in the book: the Portuguese marking of America, that name is in his book. Goines, Goin are both are in the book, among a whole long list of names. Their are also Chaves in my family. I'm so grateful for you !! At my family reunions there were very white family members with blonde hair and blue eyes, red heads with green eyes and dark skin members with brown eyes. I'm in the middle😊. It's an honor to be a Melungeon! We are strong, resourceful , independent people who are unique in this world.
Very interesting discussion. Melungeons... un mélange (mixture) in French! I should have put that together!!! GEDMatch is a wonderful tool for locating DNA connections because you don't have to all have tested with the same company to make comparisons.
You don’t, but I’ve found each place I test with have all different results and also on Gedmatch. Some matches are stronger and some are new. It’s very interesting.
@JollyGoodWitch Yes, even though there are differences in ethnicity percentages, the centiMorgans (cM) matched are pretty close. That's a condusive match. And we all know, the DNA doesn't lie.
I’m from North AL. Most of my family came over during the Puritan migration in the 1600’s. My ancestors slowly moved from New England down south. I heard the term “black Dutch” a lot on my mother’s side. Never knew what it meant - I wonder if black Dutch and melungeon have any similarities. My sister and I look very different (yes we have the same parents lol). We did DNA tests and I had 10% Jewish pop up and she had Scandinavian and some African pop up…
A lot of Sephardic Jews fled to the Netherlands after the expulsion of 1492. Some stayed in Spain and were forced to convert to Catholicism (called Conversos). When Protestantism came into being in Europe many Jewish Conversos became Protestant (thinking it would be easier to be "Crypto-Jewish" as a Protestant away from the Inquisition). Unfortunately, that was the cause of their being expelled from Spain. The Netherlands had been under Spanish rule for a while and so there was an established Sephardic community there (the philosopher Spinoza was part of this community). So many Sephardim went there to communities that would accept them. Some remained Protestant, though, and changed their names to more "Dutch" sounding names. One of my ancestors was a Van Kortryk and the further you go back in the genealogy, suddenly their name becomes Cortes. The deRoos family was originally De Rosas for example. Some did not change their names and eventually came to America and got absorbed into the places they settled (especially if they were Protestant). This was true of my Israel de Ferreira/de Piza family became simply the Israel family and then married a bunch of Scots and English people in E. Kentucky. The name of a non-Jewish Spanish family in the Netherlands that became thoroughly Dutch was the Fonda family (the acting family, Henry, Peter, Brigit, Jane, etc). Henry Fonda said he was Dutch from way back, but his name is Spanish.
These lighter ppl lived in the area known as Duhare (du erie) carolina..its said..ppl who came from ireland from other places and they described how they looked..but some how they were called black dutch due to them working under, with the" black dutch" due to mixing with the so called black dutch.. who worked right beside these dark brown Indians ... yes they (dutch were lighter than the indians some) but were still melanated.. and were still called black dutch ( rickohockens).. lol i wish ppl get into that. But im gonna be quiet .. at this point. Regardless of what this president is saying with all due respect lol theres no mystery in native history... want to know who these so called indians were called around these times the mixed spanish came from south america? Ask.. then look it up. There's info out here...the melungeons are melanges..but red legs /red bones is a seperate history..that connects to the uchi indians bc where ever they went they was amongst them.also if you have prominant puertoguese in your history then could also be different and more on the history side of the name Mestico not melungeon and the places they went with the indians/ mixed descendants (cape verde) then back to boston area.
We have the Oxendine name in our family and we’re able to trace the line to the Lumbee tribe in N Carolina by the work others had posted online. We had no idea until I searched the Oxendine name in recent years. My grandmother told us we had Native American heritage but we didn’t take her seriously, because she was fair skinned, blue eyed, light red hair😅.
Your research ties in with other heritage research. There have been many migrations from Central America, Siberia and Scandinavia that contributed to our "Native" tribes and cultures. Your dedication to truth in your research is so rare. ❤
Any Black ancestry acquired by the Melungeons of Hancock Co, TN had to be acquired more than 230 years ago from most likely North Carolina or Virginia. During this 230 years, there has never been more than 10 black families in Hancock Co, TN. The Melungeons have always largely outnumbered Black Families by a facture of 20 times.
I enjoy commenting on your clips. I have met many people in this area claiming to be Melungeon with white pasty skin even with blonde hair. I guess they have trace amounts? I have seen some with black eyes. Most have grey or blue or green. Most have dark skin brown or black hair. Most look like Native Americans. My great grandpa looked like Chief Dan George in Josie Wells movie. My great grandma was a twin, grandma looked white, but her twin sister was very dark. my dad looked caucasion so did my mom and sister, but not me😅. There is a alot my genetic diversity in the Appalachians. I enjoy our slang and traditions! For me you look Mediteranian even though you have a latina name. Yes my name is German. Names really don't mean much do they? If you ever come to East Tennessee visit the Cherokee Reservation in Maggie Valley. See what or how they react to your appearance? It's funny how Native Americans all over the country look at me. I don't know if it's my nose or skull or my green eyes? I still think God's children made the best tv show " My Name is Earl" As for my Lumbee friends, I am sorry they all look black more so than any other Indian Tribe. In the end we are all just human beings. All colors, but with different traditions, appearances and personalities.
This is very interesting on a personal level. My mother was dark and my grandfather was very dark. I was always told that I had a lot of Indian blood. DNA test showed no Indian blood but it did show 2% African blood.
I am Melungeon. My Momma is a Mullins. My Grandpa's Great Grandma was Mahalia Mullins. William Mullins, his wife Alice and 5 children came over on the Mayflower in 1620, from Surrey England. They married Irish, Cherokee and African American. They settled in the Appalachian mountains of Tennessee.
During the time between 1492 to the Mayflower, the Spanish and Portuguese went further North in areas that became eventually British Colonies- they explored, and released Barbary Pirates from North Africa/Algeria, Tunisia etc., they released them offNorth Carolina/Virginia etc! They slowly worked their way to the Appalachian Mt's and eventually mixed with typical whites, Native Americans, and blacks in various admixture! When early British settlers explored the Southern Mountains they noticed there was people who looked Mediterranean that were already there - they looked that way, because they were Med/Middle Eastern Ethnically! That was the beginnings of the Melungeon People! That is why you find Mediterranean genes in these people!
The Surnames are a way to figure out which tribes a person is connected to, the Chavis Surname is in many North Carolina tribes, my Chavis connects with the smallest tribe recognized by the state of North Carolina which is the Occaneechi Band of the Saponi Nation. But Burnett(e) Jeffries, Corn, Whit(t)more are the more predominant Surnames, Hillsboro, NC. Is one of the Occaneechi's reservations lands then they moved it to Pleasant Grove NC. which is just a few miles apart.
Shovel teeth appears to be a prominent Asian trait. I have a heavily Hispanic patient base but I also have Black, African, and White. Shovel teeth is very common with Native American mix /Asian people.
All Natives across the Americas have Shovel Shaped teeth, along with Native American Haplogroups, are the two best ways to trace Native American ancestry.
Melungeon, Redbone, Mulatto are intriguing, in part, because when you mix ethnicities, it's always a crap shoot. You never know what you're going to get. Often times, you get the best of the best and get an extraordinarily beautiful, intelligent, physically fit person. You can just as easily get features that might be a 'throw back' like my shovel teeth, or that appear mismatched, odd, awkward. Either way, most are very striking in appearance. I have a grandson, several generations removed from such strong mixing, who falls into the awkward set. He's going through puberty, so maybe he'll outgrow it. He was such a cute little kid and his mother is beautiful. At any rate, I think you could pick him out of a lineup as Melungeon.
I am of Melungeon descent, I descend from Vardy Collins line and J William Gibson line. I have dark, almost black, very course hair, bark brown eyes, medium complexion. My maternal great grandmother was Collins, Hicks, and Gibson and her husband and double 2nd cousin, was Gibson and Hicks. She passed away when I was 9 and I remember her saying she was “Portagee” and a little bit Jewish. She had very long straight black hair, dark eyes, almost black, a very deep olive complexion. My great grandfather had black hair, light blue eyes and a medium skin tone. Both of Melungeon descent. I done a DNA test awhile back and I have 34% Mediterranean, specifically Spanish/Portuguese, 7% Finnish, 1.8% Native American, 1.2% Middle Eastern, .8% Sub Saharan African. The rest is European. I have a lot of DNA matches with people from Portugal and Puerto Rico. My family surnames in addition to Collins and Gibson are Moore, Goins, Allen, Mullins, Nichols, Beverly, Freeman, Boggs, Sizemore , Bolling, Hamilton, Dodson and Huff. My Huff has Q-M242 haplogroup but is traceable back to the Netherlands by paper trail. I have so many dead end lines and
My maternal grandfather is a Moore. My grandmother is a Green/Whittington. My paternal great grandmother was half Caucasian. One of maternal grandmother’s parents was half Indian. I don’t know which tribe. Supposedly my DNA said I am a little Jewish. I have no idea who it’s from. I don’t know where the Moores are from. It’s all too confusing for me. I just know that everyone in existence are from Adam’s son Seth. We are family.
Heather lives in Charlotte,how close are the lumbeees and are the Lumbees related to the Melungeon ? They should compare Melungeon with Lumbee and with Redbone and Creole DNA ,but especiall the Melungeons with the Lumbees .
I am most definitely not Melungeon. My family has been in Tennessee since it was "native territory," but apparently bypassed the Appalachians in order to get here. My father's family, the side with the legendary Cherokee grandmother, came from South Carolina through Georgia. But different groups of people, where they came from, how they move through time and space in general, is fascinating.
@@RosswinsDK I have, but my Scots (the "mountain" heritage I once thought I possessed) passed from coastal SC into GA and then into the areas we now inhabit. My alleged Cherokee ancestor followed that route and married in this area, not in the mountains: too far south to be Melungeon.
@@RosswinsDK I believe that 6 months ago, I was referring to the fact that Ancestry heritage reports tend to change periodically. But my genealogy steadfastly avoids the mountainous parts of America when it comes to tracing our movements from point of debarkation to where we are now.
@MelissaThompson432 melungeon isn't where you are its who you are. If you are of European , native , and African American descent you are melungeon period.
@@RosswinsDK This is not what I have heard from people who identify as Melungeon. Their stance is that if you don't know whether you're Melungeon, you're not.
My fathers family was from the south and had dark hair and darker skin than white but not African. After visiting the Mediterranean I realized that was his skin tone. He told me Baptist was his family religion. Before Martin Luther split, there were other religious splits. One was the Baptists maybe Florentine sea travelers. I have this DNA Melungeon mix but look like a northern European from Poland. When they send out the US census, I check all the boxes under race. One of the bosses of the US Census told me I was white and I am a race denier. I asked how do you know what my father and mother look like? This Melungeon revelation explained why the natives in America got labeled Indians.
I have that bump in the back of my head above my neck. I thought that’s how everyone’s head was. I also have the bucket rear teeth. I assumed all people teeth were the same as mine. I had no idea that it was an ancestry trait. My family’s last names include Moore, Mullen,Willis etc. this amazes me.
There's no reason to hide Sephardic ancestry. I have openly Sephardic ancestors who settled in E Kentucky, and who were Protestant converts. There were other Sephardic Jews who went to America through the Netherlands (had gone from Catholic Conversos to Protestantism) and changed their names over time to Dutch sounding names. I have three or four lines of those in my Kentucky and SE Ohio Appalachian genealogy. Sepharidic Jews aren't always "dark" either. I've known quite a few Sephardic Jews who were very fair skinned, blue eyed and red haired who came from Istanbul, Turkey. Middle Eastern Phenotypes cover a wide range from very fair to dark. Greeks often equated Blonde Hair and blue eyes with Turkishness (due to the Galatian people, Slavs and Circassians among others that were absorbed into the Turkish gene pool through the practice of conquest and devsierme- the child tax.). I know you did not mention Turks, but many do when speaking of Melungeons, thinking that Turks are one of the "darker" Middle-Eastern people. Genetically the Muslim Moors from Spain by the time of the expulsions were largely (not totally) of a similar make up as the standard Spanish person. Check out Ancestral Brew for that (often depends on which region of Spain).
@@PapaPhilip They had to hide it, because of the Roman Catholic Inquisition, hence why when those who migrated from Spain to France, rebranded themselves as Huguenots, Protestants, Quakers, Puritans, Calvinist, Port Jew, Crypto Jew, Moresco and Morano. They were the first settlers in every new world colonies, from 1492, sailing with Columbus, on board his ships, they were Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors. Columbus himself, real name is Salvador Fernando Zarco, a Sephardic Jewish family from a village called Cuba in Portugal.
@@sarahMuahahaha I don't know about Virginia, but in the carilinas there were some hispanic families. I say hispanic because they could have been from anywhere in the hispanic monarchy empire.
@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 I don't doubt it one bit to be honest. Spain had St Elena Island off the coast in South Carolina in the late 1500s I believe.
@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 There were other Spanish explorers and expeditions in the South, too... way before Jamestown was fully a thing. So who knows. It's definitely a possibility.
Through my dad's side, my heritage tracks from the scotch-irish, who settled in Virginia, then moved through the Carolinas, then wound up in Alabama and Florida. The physical characteristics I have are shovel teeth, reddish hair, the ridge on the back of my skull, high cheekbones, wide face and hooded eyes. I've always been told there was indian, but was never told about whom or from when or where. I dug through my ancestry profile and turned up a couple of surnames that I saw on some melungeon surnames list, from as far back as the 1600s. How would I find out, for sure, without a DNA test, because I don't want to take that?
I read last year - I can't remember the exact site - the possibility that Abraham Lincoln may have Melungeon ancestors - I guess because Kentucky. Have you heard anything about this? It would be rather cool to have a famous man among your roots.
I have definitely heard that there is an Hispanic connection for the Melongeon community. The Spanish and Portugues ( Iberian) pirates , explorers etc who were present in the vast area of the Louisiana purchase are probably ancestors of this community who settled in the Appalachian states of the US in the early 17 and 1800's.
This makes me wonder about my father. He claimed there was Cherokee blood in his family tree! He is from Texas, and I wonder if there is a chance there is Melungeon blood mixed in there.
What is Melungeon blood? What is mulatto blood? What is a mixed raced blood? Lol Almost everyone is mixed , if that helps you. Melungeon was a term to describe certain mixed race people like tiger wood for example, if it was today ... Him and his kids would be Melungeon There's yellow bone like in the case of Megan Markle for example Red bone in the case of Beyonce Creole in terms of Tina Knowles Passing as white in terms of Jessica alba's kids Mixed in terms of Stephen curry I hope this helps you in understanding what the different word signified and how they were used in the context of completion It's not an ethnic group or tribe per say , but more on the culture of what made the various distinction of the then mixed race community And they're not related, they come from the various racial groups on earth Bound together in a community by how they looked and nothing more Today Melungeon doesn't exist in terms of continuation and labeling of race or ethnicity People keeping that word alive is just more on the history side of things
@@k-dwanks2481 People who had that in their ancestry tended to excuse their complexions with an explanation of Indian blood, which they felt was better than being of African descent. It is a sad fact of the times.
@@mind_of_a_darkhorse and they also fail to realize that this communities of people, lost their true identity or racial category By being called Melungeon, redbone, yellowbone, colored etc Instead of identifying them by their paternal line And so today , we have this word, that is too broad to truly identify an individual race And so even DNA ancestry could be making mistakes by bringing that category up Labeling it Melungeon Notwithstanding those talking about indian blood, fail to realize that there are indigenous Africans in India and most of the asian countries Philippines etc today Then they would be proud to have African ancestry and all the wonders that comes with it
If any American has the shovel shaped incisors, they most likely have Native American ancestry, or less likely, they could be East Asian. Are shovel shaped incisors found in a lot of Melungeons, I know they are a mixed ethnic group?
I have shovel shaped incisors and some distant NA ancestry. Also look at fingerprints. the whorl pattern is more common for NA and East Asian ancestry. 7 of my fingers have this fingerprint pattern. I thought this might have come from Turkic sources on my dad's side, but my mother had 8 of her fingers with the whorl pattern and the shovel teeth. Don't know if my dad did, though... he lost his front teeth as a kid in a street hockey mishap. He had a bridge. :D
Funny thing, a friend was my dentist for a while. He asked me about Native American ancestry. I knew there was supposed to be some in the family. He said my teeth were Native American. The Native American showed up in my brother's DNA test but not mine. However, there are a number of Natives in the Pittsburgh area, and when I run into them I get asked what's my tribe. My brother doesn't look Native at all. My sister looks more Native American than I do. We have been able to discover that our family was free by the year 1630 for sure. Family story says we are the first Blacks to arrive in Jamestown in 1619 who were indentured rather than enslaved. This we were never slaves.
I’ve got the bump on the back of the head wow my my family is from Kentucky but originally from Virginia and now in Louisiana and Texas and the first documented trace of them was 1650
Soooo, was watching The Price Is Right and a contestant was called up. Her last name was Melungeon. Nope. Could not look at her and have a clue of her ethnicity. I went to college in Arkansas with a Gibson who could be described as a Redbone. I know people with all of these names. One of my students in NC was Lumbee.
@@nytn I had no idea that the families moved from Virginia to North Carolina where most of us still are. I’ve found so much information and family history
@@nytn ua-cam.com/video/V6TwaDLgCW0/v-deo.htmlsi=FHMWPgC2TafL-hAU Information about the Walden and Goins families and my great great grandparents and lumbee history
Your guest explained it perfectly, hopefully you understand what she said To rewind it Melungeon is a mixed raced person, multi ethnic Black, white, asian etc Because the way they were treated they lived in the same community, inter married and moved together Simple and straight forward Secondly neither of you are Melungeon but its part of your heritage and DNA ancestry Just like neither of you are black or asian but it can be part of your dna make-up You're Caucasians
Have you ever looked into the negroid phenotypes of indigenous people that the European explorers saw on the East Coast and parts of the Caribbean? Also, it is true that the racial integrity act did change the game froma tribal standpoint. A lot of these groups and tribes today are just an amalgamation of black and white based on historical readings at this point. Yes, you will also find more of the Mongoloid phenotype on the West Coast, but again just a question. So, any thoughts???
Danielle, I thought I was in this alone in the past. Having identity issues. When I took my DNA test, 82.1% tests southern European (Spain and Portugal). 9% indigenous American, 7.1% sub Saharan African. Don’t you think there are changes to be made in the census’s form to fill out by people like us? I’ve been asked, are you white or black? I’m just me. But have always thought that I don’t fit in any of the categories we know.
My Great Grandmother Barbara Bunch was a Melungeon from Eastern Tennessee. Dad used to tell me that she was so dark skinned person that she was almost a black person.
I knew Barbara Bunch a daughter of Henry Bunch. She was just black enough to be beautiful, and she sang just like an angel. Her voice could bring tears to the eyes of the most hardened soul.
What mystery? Sounds to me that the term sounds like it could be derived from or related to the word melanin, which is usually related to who we now call Black people, which would be why it was considered derogatory, and why they were "dark", and why the effort to whiten the group was made.
My maternal family where originally from the Canary Islands, and all my aunts and uncles were different colored complexes. My grandfather was light skin and light eyes while my grandmother was darker.
When the Spanish discovered and colonized the Canary Islands, they were occupied by a Berber/Amazight type off people that were isolated from North Africa for a long time! The Spanish mixed with them- so the modern Canary Islander is mostly Spanish with various %'s of Guanche DNA- I think sometimes as high as 14- 35 %. The Guanches were described by the Spanish as tall and fair complected!
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I think I finally figured out why you annoy me so much! I thought it was your nasally voice and your droopy sad face, but actually it is because you are a grievance-monger. You dig back to find some random historical factoid about your (let's be honest) mostly white heritage. Then you drill down to find the grievance. And you always find it and talk about it so solemnly with your sad, sad face. It's so negative. Like part of your family is Italian. And you could spin that really positively if you wanted. They might not have been treated that great, but they were allowed to come to America and build their dreams. It seems like your Italian family did really well, great careers, lake houses, nice cars, etc. So that's a success story. Or your million times removed mulatto grandmother. Well, she married outside her race and her descendants did fine. So that's good, right? But noooooo it's always the grievance-mongering. Eighty generations back my grandfather was called a neeee grow and he couldn't vote, omg I cried so much..... Fifty generations back my native ancestor had to live on a reservation, oh meee oh myyyy I cried so hard..... and then you wonder why race relations are SO BAD. Whelp you are part of the problem. I have NEVER EVER heard you say anything positive about European people ever. I have NEVER seen you express any interest in your mostly European heritage ever. You go straight for the grievance, every single time. You're part French right? No interest. You're part Irish, right? No interest because your eleventy millionth Irish grandfather was a bigot. Which is actually unusual for an Irish person, so that sounds more like a 'your family' problem than an Irish problem. Back then, life was hard for everyone. Why don't you ever talk about black on black crime? Or the massive efforts America has made to level the playing field? Just grievance after grievance, as if you are looking for reasons for people to feel victimized. Very unhelpful in the larger scheme of things.
Can you research Geechi people?
@@chrisventura1881 yes absolutely! I have it on my list, and there are some folks in that community I need to reach out to
Thank you, Miss Romero! These video treatises that you do on the Melungeons, are the best so far, on a forgotten people in the United States. Heather did a great job of illuminating these people and other facts. Look forward to others that you will do, especially on Black/Italian interactions here. Peace
I love your natural, curly hair, Danielle!
I’m learning to love it again!
#NYTN, i am so glad you are able to connect with this historian.
So good ladies! This is such a fascinating topic of heritage.
Roma, Jewish, Mulungeon. My three biggest markers according to my DNA results. Absolutely no one in my family can explain ANY of those. My people are from NC, SC, TN, GA, and AL. Like so many others I was told I had a heavy native American ancestry. I do not. Common story.
Evidently someone set up an early Sephardic Jew settlement in Northern Georgia. There are some with Jewish blood line in the Mtns around here😁
@@dennistrull1475 Thanks !!!!
Mississippi and Louisiana also don’t forget
@@vanessareedhawaiinani the Pirae captain Jean Lafitte was Sephardic Jewish on his mother's side. Many of the Pirates of the Caribbean were Sephardic Jews who got letters of Marque from the English to prey upon Spanish shipping in revenge for being expelled from Spain.
Sephardic Jews have been in the Colonies since the very beginning. They did not hide it, much, though.
Don't forget what?
It amazes me because all of these admixtures and histories are very recent but yet remains a mystery.
Another great video. Keep at it!
I have Locklear and Oxendine connections from Lumbee, Richardson and Silver from the Haliwa Saponi and Bass from the Nansemond of Virginia
That all so my lines too and what i am :)❤❤❤❤
Locklear and Oxendine here as well !
I am an adoptee and without evidence people questioned me asking me are you a Mulungeons? Even my parents who adopted me questioned this also. I darken quickly in the sun without hardly burning though I have blue eyes and at birth and as a toddler my hair was black like my biological father. Even with age on occasion someone will ask me are you a mulungeon? I always thank anyone who ask me that. I see it as a compliment. I haven't had any genetics done yet to tell me what I am but whoever is is in me I see this as a gift.
SOOO interesting! Heather was, too. Your channel is going to grow fast!
I have almost the same story and am in tears watching this. We’re mixed Roma, Indigenous, English from West Virginia, and my gram straight up told me we were “melungeon mutts” growing up. 😆 the pics of my ancestors are wild too. Definitely have the bump, but sometimes I question if that’s a legitimate thing? On the more unexplainable or esoteric side, I will say there’s some epigenetic information in me that has innately drawn me to certain interests and I have organic understanding of things that are unexplainable.
Shovel teeth are a common indigenous trait (check this out from an anthropological and evolutionary perspective) and that’s why western dentists are always messing up our teeth. 😂
It’s been said that the bump is a Turkish trait, but there is no proof of that as true. However, most north Europeans have this trait, as well, especially those located in Sweden. The theory is that is a Neanderthal trait and comes from the admixture of early Europeans with Neanderthal. Interesting, huh! Love your show. I’m learning a lot from hour channel. Thank you, great show!
Northern Norway and northern Sweden ancestry - we have the bumps.
Well, idk which one you refer to but I have a very lumpy head, so I probably have that one, as well. I do have the usual Neanderthal percentage, somewhere around 2%, I think.
*(I'm not Melungeon. My family seems to have completely bypassed the Appalachians, in all the branches.)
I do have a small quantity of "probably Swedish" (Ancestry keeps changing its mind; something Scandinavian.) Other than that I'm Scottish/other Celtic groups/English.
@@MelissaThompson432 remember that the % of Neanderthal is unique to Neanderthals, there was much more untraceable DNA because the species had so much in common. Some say that if you count the common DNA we'd be up to 20%+.
I don't think the occipital bun and the bump are the same trait.
Explore Bela Fleck’s banjo music(he has a documentary about the banjo as well) He approaches banjo from both American and African influence. Also worth noting that country and bluegrass music are direct derivatives from African music(my degree was in bluegrass music from East Tennessee state university.)
He's great!
African music is one of the major influencs in Bluegrass music (mostly blues influenced) but not the only one. Old Time music (which is not Bluegrass, which is a 20th century invention) is a huge influence as well. Of course Old Time has African roots too, but a huge part is from England, Ireland and Scotland as well as some German and Native influenes. You could just as easily say Bluegrass and Country are diret derivatives from European music, and you'd be right. American folk music is a melange of influences from everyone who came to America or who is originally from America.
@@PapaPhilip lots of documentation on how Bill Monroe and Hank Williams both learned songs and skills directly from black musicians before Bluegrass and country were even considered genres, and one can most certainly also hear Irish/Scottish and Gaelic influences(likely from the folks who settled Appalachia, a tri-racial mix) fascinating to think of how these genres are perceived vs. how they originated. Was a fun and enlightening performance based degree program there at ETSU for sure.
@@BirdDogg We agree. I was not disputing or disagreeing with you, but I made my comment because your comment made it sound as if it was the only direct influence, not one of many. You'll note that I did not downplay the African American influence. I'm aware that Arnold Schulz, the son of a slave, and friend of Bill Monroe was a major influence in thumb style guitar playing (which influenced Doc Watson and Merle Travis). Of course the Blues and Jazz also have European influences as well as major African influences. It's a beautiful mix of music.I think it's really important to maintain the mutual influences and interplay of cultures that makes a new American culture. I've seen too many people on all sides saying "this is ours, and you stole it" kind of thing and I really don't like that because it becomes divisive rather than uniting.
Even Gospel music has been shown to be a mix of European (specifically Hebridean Scottish style of singing) and African inluences.
We're all in this together.
@@PapaPhilip Oh, no worries, I didn’t take it that way, was just agreeing and adding a bit more context to my comment due to her surprise at the banjo being African. In my experiences as a touring bluegrass musician most common folks assume bluegrass derived from mountain folks, or Irish roots. it’s really fascinating to me how few folks of color realize their influence on the various aspects of musical culture and is always exciting to see their discoveries and exploration of the music, was just expounding on things folks might want to explore more.
15-17 ethnicities here! I love what you are doing. Please love the human race. We are all connected.
What people don’t realize is that African Americans in the piedmont region of North Carolina specifically Rockingham, Guilford, Caswell and Alamance counties are lighter skinned, red undertones, redbone, mulatto and mixed. Most identify as Black but their heritages are mixed with Scottish, Scots Irish and Some British. The plantations were smaller and greater chances of racial intermixing.
Specifically family names such as Courts, Watlington, Stokes, Simpson, Graves, etc.
Fascinating. Evidence of people who seem to have been by today’s descriptors really inclusive and had a notion of living in a very integrated way and somehow remained under the radar for the longest time!
Appalachia in a nutshell!
Well said!
I wish i could recall but i had read that during some of domestic wars, the peoples refused to take side, saying it was none of their concern.
Two women who seek to know and preserve the past of their respective families.
This one is so close to my heart
Another note, your discussion brought up Chavis, Locklear, Oxendine, etc and the Lumbee. Just throwing in my piece of that puzzle. Last year I discovered several of my DNA matches who connect to that community. One of my shared matches with them is someone I have been collaborating with in hopes to solve a brick wall they have. We felt like our connection was somehow related to ancestors we know were in New Jersey with very early French and Dutch heritage. I tried to explore the trees of these matches for a hint of which of their ancestors may have come from that region. I never could find it, and it's still a mystery to me where our connection might be. I ended up spending a lot of time learning about the Lumbee culture, which is fascinating and full of great stories. They have lots of UA-cam videos on various channels, you can look up. In their stories is an Oxendine who went to Tennessee, changed their name to Exendine. Another line, I forget which, has another obscure origin story where a surname was purposely changed. So the answer may never be found.
Interesting stuff, ladies. thanks for the info!
You were talking about the banjo, you should search another North Carolinian Rhiannon Giddens she plays the banjo and is featured on a new country album by B. She talks about the history of the banjo
I really do love this work. I started looking at these Melungeon people and I know I've seen them before. There is a group of islands off the coast of Honduras called the bay islands. In the 1870s there was a large influx of Americans. These Americans came to be called los caracoles. Caracol is sea shell. Many were confederates fleeing the south post union victory. The caracoles are mainly on an island called Utila. Not 100 percent sure, but judging by the look many must have been Melungeon. Utila is a great dive spot and coral viewing area.
this is new to me!
@@nytn American southerners also fled to Belize post civil war. They are part of creole population. Very mixed with Africans and east indians now. Amongst them I'm sure you'll find those with Melungeon ancestry.
Brazil also received them in Sao Paulo state. They still celebrate dia de confederados. They've blended into the general Brazilian population. You can easily google confederates in Brazil.
I think I saw them on Utila island Honduras. Honduras locals call them the white black people. Not a pejorative just a convenient descriptor. Google utila great place for a diving and sailing family.
These “Confederates” were more likely just that, folks who fled after the secessionists lost the Civil War. There were others migrated up into what we know as western Canadian provinces, then others down into and past Central America. Of this latter group you’ll find cultural remnants from the United States. And yes they brought their beliefs with them.
There’s also Irish descendants (San Patricio)in Mexico who fought on the side of Mexico in even earlier conflicts with USA.
Thank you for this video! I have several Melungeon surnames in my family, I know of at least one Melungeon ancestor in my family (just started researching) My DNA test showed Irish Scottish, German and then a small amount of indigenous, south Asian, middle eastern and North African (Egyptian) and SSA. Me and all my relatives on my dads side have the AA CG skin genotype (the CG is very rarely found in Europeans) when it is it is usually found in southern Europe which I do not have. Thank you for your videos they have helped me SO much in exploring my heritage. I always wondered why people usually don’t think that I’m fully white and why my dad’s side of the family has very dark skin and features despite being mostly white. Keep up the good work Danielle!
Hi James here from Ireland aged 70
Just discovered your channel and find it really interesting as I have always been interested in history
What I want to say is that my ears pricked up when you mentioned generational trauma as my mother who was born in 1915 in Ireland used to say that she didn’t care where she was buried as long as it
wasn’t on the side of the road .
No one ever knew what this meant but after bout 20 years after her death I spoke with a lady who had written a book about the effect of the famine in my locality in Ireland circa 1857
I told her of my mother’s strange comment and she replied that this is a common folk memory of the famine in Ireland
The reason is that so many people died that the normal services were so overwhelmed that a lot of people were buried where they died , on the side of the road.😢
Also in the same vein I was told that the nursery rhyme
‘ Ring a ring a Rosie
A pocket full of posies
Atishoo! Atishoo! We all fall down’
Is a folk memory from the great plague of London circa 1666
Keep up the good work 😊 I really enjoy your channel 👍😎🎶
As someone who grew up knowing they’re Melungeon and as someone who’s straight down historical Melungeon lines, it’s a little weird to me that the PRESIDENT of a Melungeon organization didn’t actually grow up knowing they were Melungeon. Maybe it’s just me, but it would make more sense to have a President who didn’t have to research and speculate about their history so much.
Just to put it in retrospect the melungeon people were a product of indigenous afro, indigenous afro indian, french, german,
You are a wealth of knowledge and education.
Very interesting! Thank you for recording this!!! 🙏🙏🙏
I do have Davis on my Mom’s side. Her maternal great grandpa was a Davis. Her grandma always said she had either Jewish or Cherokee (she’d interchange it).
Good evening from Copperhill Tn.
Hello!
Hee hee Irish born 26 % Irish ethnicity. A while back I came across surnames like Bunch, Gibson, Moore and Miner/Minor. Miner is listed on my ancestry account as one of the most common names in peoples trees. Whilst watching a previous vid of yours I paused and typed in Goins, and what looks like a 4/5 great grandmother. The dna matches had big swathes of Aegean islands percentage. There was Nigerian, Senegalese, Western Bantu, Native American and Eastern European Roma to name a tiny few ethnicities! So I found a low centimorgan match and the guy looked like a long lost twin! I’m fairly dark and go like an orangey brown hue when the sun comes out for 3 days in a row in Ireland (a rare occurrence)! My relative (my long lost “twin” had slightly darker skin and a slightly pointier nose. That’s basically the only difference! I have a slightly larger head than normal, I got teased in school for it. My dad’s head shape is similar but not quite as large. My son has black hair and my grandson’s mother’s family are from Jamaica, as are some of mine. My son and his son are quite light skinned, even though my grandson would be considered at least 50 % African from his mother’s side of the family. Because he’s only 3 his hair may change from practically white and his eyes are dark blue, like his dad! At age 3 his eye colour probably won’t change. My son also has coppery tones in his beard! Great work, Danielle!
I'm proud that I educate myself and I have known about this
another great one Danielle
Danielle you should do a video on the Atlantic Creoles, many of the melungeon families and redbones descended from them. Might be an interesting through line
i grew up in church hill,tn in 1960's through 1988. That community is about a 50 mile drive east of melungeon community located in sneedville commu city in hancocke coynty,tn.
I went through high school in late 1870's till 1982 with many kids who were great to great grandkids of melungeon families by names of colins,owens,davis,goins,mullins,Sizemore, fugates and gibson's. Many were more olive complexion kids like I was. I have jones,nichols,riddle,clark.kings and sharps in my direct bloodlines who have all lived in northeast Tennessee since the 1770 to 1780's.
Also I have several family lines that came out of western nc region where they lived by mid 1740's until 1770's before they crossed the mountains to settle in the Johnson city/jonesborough and Erwin areas. Those surnames were duggers,hughes,anderson,huskins,garlands,loudys,estepps,webbs,martins,tapps/ tappticos,halls,Steven's,yates,andersons,conrads,little johns,shells/schells,Shaw duncans,mulkey,plotts and Ellis.
I have the shovel concave shaped front top teeth and the big Anatolian ledge on the bottom of my skull. I also have blueish grey colored eyes. During summertime I can also tan a deep reddish brown color.
I am also 3 rd to 4 th cousins with some Lowry and revels folks. Must come through my grandma Julia (Jones) dentons line as she grew up in hendersonville,nc, I also have Anderson's and Hughes on my mom's/mother's side. Her grandma mary Loudy was a garlands. She grew up over in yancey county,nc by burnsville area. There are Anderson's in the lumbee Indian tribe.
Interesting and informative, thanks.
There’s a group of Melungeons here in Amherst Co. Virginia.
Ed from Lynchburg
@@edglass9912 big melungeon families in central va as well ! "Another reason Amherst is so good at football cough cough"
There have been lots of great players from Amherst. Great County.
Ed
@@edglass9912 do you know Amy rossers from lymchburg?
No I don’t. There was a Mrs Rosser that taught at Jefferson Forest and I believe her husband and son worked at bwxt.
I’ve known of Rosser’s around town for a long time.
@edglass9912 I went to a place called new dominion with a kid named Cody Rosser in 2006 I was 13 then I'm 31 now. He was 16 then so he be about 33. Had long hair back then really I to heavy metal music. Been trying to reach my brother Cody for a long time but can't find him anywhere if you see them around show them this
Do you have any book suggestions for books about Melungeons that moved from east TN to Louisiana and Texas? Thank you!
Gibson is a big surname in my paternal family tree.
Henderson is a primary Lumbee surname also. One of the “original handful” of surnames.
Shovel teeth is definitely a thing. I took an anthropology course in college. Native Americans have shovel teeth - or at least the ones we learned of. I think we were talking about the area of Mexico in this class.
My husband is Mexican and his dna has the same mixture.
There’s a Goins Road in the area my family is from in South Carolina too. I think it’s in Greeleyville.
Do you recommend any particular dna test?
Loving the fact that u are embracing the natural hair🫶🏽 I did so in 2013 and it was a moment where I also realized how difficult the coming to home process would be….As always sending love to my NY sister💪🏽❤️
Slightly related story from my college days in early 1970s. My university is in the midwest. This was a time of civil rights, the Vietnam war and more. Many of the students from the area were Jewish. When the black students started wearing their Afros, some of the Jewish kids let loose theirs, too. I had led a sheltered life, thinking all whites had straight hair. So, i guess those kids were freeing themselves too. The longer i live, the more assumptions i have to unlearn. If we don’t know each other all we do is assume. I always respect those who ask instead of assuming.
@@dplj4428Being from NY we argue the features of the Jewish just as we do the Italians, whom also very easily grow beautiful Afros….It’s an experience to see firsthand. My hair is still natural, healthy and mid back when pulled🫶🏽
My family is Goines and in the book: the Portuguese marking of America, that name is in his book. Goines, Goin are both are in the book, among a whole long list of names. Their are also Chaves in my family. I'm so grateful for you !! At my family reunions there were very white family members with blonde hair and blue eyes, red heads with green eyes and dark skin members with brown eyes. I'm in the middle😊. It's an honor to be a Melungeon! We are strong, resourceful , independent people who are unique in this world.
how beautiful! I love seeing the way we can gather together as family and as a community...while looking all kinds of ways.
@@yolandaagnew2508 I know some goines here in va
It's so neat when you see people who look like family when you look like few others! 👍😍😎
Very interesting discussion. Melungeons... un mélange (mixture) in French! I should have put that together!!!
GEDMatch is a wonderful tool for locating DNA connections because you don't have to all have tested with the same company to make comparisons.
You don’t, but I’ve found each place I test with have all different results and also on Gedmatch. Some matches are stronger and some are new. It’s very interesting.
@JollyGoodWitch Yes, even though there are differences in ethnicity percentages, the centiMorgans (cM) matched are pretty close. That's a condusive match. And we all know, the DNA doesn't lie.
It sounds really interesting and cool.
I’m from North AL. Most of my family came over during the Puritan migration in the 1600’s. My ancestors slowly moved from New England down south. I heard the term “black Dutch” a lot on my mother’s side. Never knew what it meant - I wonder if black Dutch and melungeon have any similarities. My sister and I look very different (yes we have the same parents lol). We did DNA tests and I had 10% Jewish pop up and she had Scandinavian and some African pop up…
tons of swarthy dutchman in europes history like saint nicolas.
@@krono5el Saint Nicholas was from Myra in Lycia in Asia Minor. He was not Dutch. He was Greek.
A lot of Sephardic Jews fled to the Netherlands after the expulsion of 1492. Some stayed in Spain and were forced to convert to Catholicism (called Conversos). When Protestantism came into being in Europe many Jewish Conversos became Protestant (thinking it would be easier to be "Crypto-Jewish" as a Protestant away from the Inquisition). Unfortunately, that was the cause of their being expelled from Spain. The Netherlands had been under Spanish rule for a while and so there was an established Sephardic community there (the philosopher Spinoza was part of this community). So many Sephardim went there to communities that would accept them. Some remained Protestant, though, and changed their names to more "Dutch" sounding names. One of my ancestors was a Van Kortryk and the further you go back in the genealogy, suddenly their name becomes Cortes. The deRoos family was originally De Rosas for example. Some did not change their names and eventually came to America and got absorbed into the places they settled (especially if they were Protestant). This was true of my Israel de Ferreira/de Piza family became simply the Israel family and then married a bunch of Scots and English people in E. Kentucky.
The name of a non-Jewish Spanish family in the Netherlands that became thoroughly Dutch was the Fonda family (the acting family, Henry, Peter, Brigit, Jane, etc). Henry Fonda said he was Dutch from way back, but his name is Spanish.
These lighter ppl lived in the area known as Duhare (du erie) carolina..its said..ppl who came from ireland from other places and they described how they looked..but some how they were called black dutch due to them working under, with the" black dutch" due to mixing with the so called black dutch.. who worked right beside these dark brown Indians ... yes they (dutch were lighter than the indians some) but were still melanated.. and were still called black dutch ( rickohockens).. lol i wish ppl get into that. But im gonna be quiet .. at this point. Regardless of what this president is saying with all due respect lol theres no mystery in native history... want to know who these so called indians were called around these times the mixed spanish came from south america? Ask.. then look it up. There's info out here...the melungeons are melanges..but red legs /red bones is a seperate history..that connects to the uchi indians bc where ever they went they was amongst them.also if you have prominant puertoguese in your history then could also be different and more on the history side of the name Mestico not melungeon and the places they went with the indians/ mixed descendants (cape verde) then back to boston area.
@@krono5elthe dutch were called many names. On this land they were called names like chero-kee or sara-ki or cheraw...
it's like a I've always said : Melungeon is Mélangeon and not derogatory, Exactly like "negro" means black in Spanish and ancient italian.
And Português.
No. Black means dead in law. Melungeon was a slur they used for bleached black people
My dad’s from port Arthur TX and my mom is from Versailles KY.
We have the Oxendine name in our family and we’re able to trace the line to the Lumbee tribe in N Carolina by the work others had posted online. We had no idea until I searched the Oxendine name in recent years. My grandmother told us we had Native American heritage but we didn’t take her seriously, because she was fair skinned, blue eyed, light red hair😅.
Great video, Im creole on my Moms side and Melungeon on my dads side .
Love the channel
That's awesome! So similar to me
When I was in the Army, my drill sergeant, Velton Locklear, jr. is Lumbee Indian.
Your research ties in with other heritage research. There have been many migrations from Central America, Siberia and Scandinavia that contributed to our "Native" tribes and cultures.
Your dedication to truth in your research is so rare. ❤
Now I must look to the African origins of the banjo.
Any Black ancestry acquired by the Melungeons of Hancock Co, TN had to be acquired
more than 230 years ago from most likely North Carolina or Virginia. During this
230 years, there has never been more than 10 black families in Hancock Co, TN.
The Melungeons have always largely outnumbered Black Families by a facture of 20 times.
I enjoy commenting on your clips. I have met many people in this area claiming to be Melungeon with white pasty skin even with blonde hair. I guess they have trace amounts? I have seen some with black eyes. Most have grey or blue or green. Most have dark skin brown or black hair. Most look like Native Americans. My great grandpa looked like Chief Dan George in Josie Wells movie. My great grandma was a twin, grandma looked white, but her twin sister was very dark. my dad looked caucasion so did my mom and sister, but not me😅. There is a alot my genetic diversity in the Appalachians. I enjoy our slang and traditions! For me you look Mediteranian even though you have a latina name. Yes my name is German. Names really don't mean much do they? If you ever come to East Tennessee visit the Cherokee Reservation in Maggie Valley. See what or how they react to your appearance? It's funny how Native Americans all over the country look at me. I don't know if it's my nose or skull or my green eyes? I still think God's children made the best tv show " My Name is Earl" As for my Lumbee friends, I am sorry they all look black more so than any other Indian Tribe. In the end we are all just human beings. All colors, but with different traditions, appearances and personalities.
This is very interesting on a personal level. My mother was dark and my grandfather was very dark. I was always told that I had a lot of Indian blood. DNA test showed no Indian blood but it did show 2% African blood.
I am Melungeon. My Momma is a Mullins. My Grandpa's Great Grandma was Mahalia Mullins. William Mullins, his wife Alice and 5 children came over on the Mayflower in 1620, from Surrey England. They married Irish, Cherokee and African American. They settled in the Appalachian mountains of Tennessee.
Mullins is a very Irish name.
@rosehart341 My grandpa is Scotch/Irish
What about being toung tie?
During the time between 1492 to the Mayflower, the Spanish and Portuguese went further North in areas that became eventually British Colonies- they explored, and released Barbary Pirates from North Africa/Algeria, Tunisia etc., they released them offNorth Carolina/Virginia etc! They slowly worked their way to the Appalachian Mt's and eventually mixed with typical whites, Native Americans, and blacks in various admixture! When early British settlers explored the Southern Mountains they noticed there was people who looked Mediterranean that were already there - they looked that way, because they were Med/Middle Eastern Ethnically! That was the beginnings of the Melungeon People! That is why you find Mediterranean genes in these people!
That would probably explain why Spanish/Portuguese and Middle Eastern showed up on my 23andMe test.
The Surnames are a way to figure out which tribes a person is connected to, the Chavis Surname is in many North Carolina tribes, my Chavis connects with the smallest tribe recognized by the state of North Carolina which is the Occaneechi Band of the Saponi Nation. But Burnett(e) Jeffries, Corn, Whit(t)more are the more predominant Surnames, Hillsboro, NC. Is one of the Occaneechi's reservations lands then they moved it to Pleasant Grove NC. which is just a few miles apart.
Shovel teeth appears to be a prominent Asian trait. I have a heavily Hispanic patient
base but I also have Black, African, and White. Shovel teeth is very common with Native American mix /Asian people.
All Natives across the Americas have Shovel Shaped teeth, along with Native American Haplogroups, are the two best ways to trace Native American ancestry.
I’m so glad I finally figured this out. It took like ten years 😅
I would love to send a picture of my grandpa and grandpa, and aunts and uncles as kids. To the foundation.
Melungeon, Redbone, Mulatto are intriguing, in part, because when you mix ethnicities, it's always a crap shoot. You never know what you're going to get. Often times, you get the best of the best and get an extraordinarily beautiful, intelligent, physically fit person. You can just as easily get features that might be a 'throw back' like my shovel teeth, or that appear mismatched, odd, awkward. Either way, most are very striking in appearance. I have a grandson, several generations removed from such strong mixing, who falls into the awkward set. He's going through puberty, so maybe he'll outgrow it. He was such a cute little kid and his mother is beautiful. At any rate, I think you could pick him out of a lineup as Melungeon.
I am of Melungeon descent, I descend from Vardy Collins line and J William Gibson line. I have dark, almost black, very course hair, bark brown eyes, medium complexion. My maternal great grandmother was Collins, Hicks, and Gibson and her husband and double 2nd cousin, was Gibson and Hicks. She passed away when I was 9 and I remember her saying she was “Portagee” and a little bit Jewish. She had very long straight black hair, dark eyes, almost black, a very deep olive complexion. My great grandfather had black hair, light blue eyes and a medium skin tone. Both of Melungeon descent. I done a DNA test awhile back and I have 34% Mediterranean, specifically Spanish/Portuguese, 7% Finnish, 1.8% Native American, 1.2% Middle Eastern, .8% Sub Saharan African. The rest is European. I have a lot of DNA matches with people from Portugal and Puerto Rico. My family surnames in addition to Collins and Gibson are Moore, Goins, Allen, Mullins, Nichols, Beverly, Freeman, Boggs, Sizemore , Bolling, Hamilton, Dodson and Huff. My Huff has Q-M242 haplogroup but is traceable back to the Netherlands by paper trail. I have so many dead end lines and
My maternal grandfather is a Moore. My grandmother is a Green/Whittington. My paternal great grandmother was half Caucasian. One of maternal grandmother’s parents was half Indian. I don’t know which tribe. Supposedly my DNA said I am a little Jewish. I have no idea who it’s from. I don’t know where the Moores are from. It’s all too confusing for me. I just know that everyone in existence are from Adam’s son Seth. We are family.
I have both surnames of Collins and Boggs.
7:00 mélange. I’ve heard it used in cooking recipes.
Mélange is the French word for mixture.
Heather lives in Charlotte,how close are the lumbeees and are the Lumbees related to the Melungeon ? They should compare Melungeon with Lumbee and with Redbone and Creole DNA ,but especiall the Melungeons with the Lumbees .
If you are having issues with UA-cam, then you must be doing something very constructive. Stay the course!👊🏽
haha thats what I tell myself
I am most definitely not Melungeon. My family has been in Tennessee since it was "native territory," but apparently bypassed the Appalachians in order to get here. My father's family, the side with the legendary Cherokee grandmother, came from South Carolina through Georgia.
But different groups of people, where they came from, how they move through time and space in general, is fascinating.
@MelissaThompson432 when you say "but apparently" it leads me to believe you haven't taken a dna test yet have you?
@@RosswinsDK I have, but my Scots (the "mountain" heritage I once thought I possessed) passed from coastal SC into GA and then into the areas we now inhabit. My alleged Cherokee ancestor followed that route and married in this area, not in the mountains: too far south to be Melungeon.
@@RosswinsDK I believe that 6 months ago, I was referring to the fact that Ancestry heritage reports tend to change periodically. But my genealogy steadfastly avoids the mountainous parts of America when it comes to tracing our movements from point of debarkation to where we are now.
@MelissaThompson432 melungeon isn't where you are its who you are. If you are of European , native , and African American descent you are melungeon period.
@@RosswinsDK This is not what I have heard from people who identify as Melungeon. Their stance is that if you don't know whether you're Melungeon, you're not.
Jellico? I've been there.
My fathers family was from the south and had dark hair and darker skin than white but not African. After visiting the Mediterranean I realized that was his skin tone. He told me Baptist was his family religion. Before Martin Luther split, there were other religious splits. One was the Baptists maybe Florentine sea travelers. I have this DNA Melungeon mix but look like a northern European from Poland. When they send out the US census, I check all the boxes under race. One of the bosses of the US Census told me I was white and I am a race denier. I asked how do you know what my father and mother look like? This Melungeon revelation explained why the natives in America got labeled Indians.
Thanks I always wondered way my family is so dark
I have that bump in the back of my head above my neck. I thought that’s how everyone’s head was. I also have the bucket rear teeth. I assumed all people teeth were the same as mine. I had no idea that it was an ancestry trait. My family’s last names include Moore, Mullen,Willis etc. this amazes me.
Melungen, are of Muslim Moors, Sephardic Jews, originally from Spain, Scottish and Native American Ancestry.
There's no reason to hide Sephardic ancestry. I have openly Sephardic ancestors who settled in E Kentucky, and who were Protestant converts. There were other Sephardic Jews who went to America through the Netherlands (had gone from Catholic Conversos to Protestantism) and changed their names over time to Dutch sounding names. I have three or four lines of those in my Kentucky and SE Ohio Appalachian genealogy. Sepharidic Jews aren't always "dark" either. I've known quite a few Sephardic Jews who were very fair skinned, blue eyed and red haired who came from Istanbul, Turkey. Middle Eastern Phenotypes cover a wide range from very fair to dark. Greeks often equated Blonde Hair and blue eyes with Turkishness (due to the Galatian people, Slavs and Circassians among others that were absorbed into the Turkish gene pool through the practice of conquest and devsierme- the child tax.). I know you did not mention Turks, but many do when speaking of Melungeons, thinking that Turks are one of the "darker" Middle-Eastern people. Genetically the Muslim Moors from Spain by the time of the expulsions were largely (not totally) of a similar make up as the standard Spanish person. Check out Ancestral Brew for that (often depends on which region of Spain).
@@PapaPhilip They had to hide it, because of the Roman Catholic Inquisition, hence why when those who migrated from Spain to France, rebranded themselves as Huguenots, Protestants, Quakers, Puritans, Calvinist, Port Jew, Crypto Jew, Moresco and Morano. They were the first settlers in every new world colonies, from 1492, sailing with Columbus, on board his ships, they were Sephardic Jews and Muslim Moors. Columbus himself, real name is Salvador Fernando Zarco, a Sephardic Jewish family from a village called Cuba in Portugal.
how did the different ethnic groups come to the Appalachia area and where did they come from?
Carolinas and Virginia
@@sarahMuahahaha I don't know about Virginia, but in the carilinas there were some hispanic families. I say hispanic because they could have been from anywhere in the hispanic monarchy empire.
@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 I don't doubt it one bit to be honest. Spain had St Elena Island off the coast in South Carolina in the late 1500s I believe.
@nicolasjuandecardenas7921 There were other Spanish explorers and expeditions in the South, too... way before Jamestown was fully a thing. So who knows. It's definitely a possibility.
Through my dad's side, my heritage tracks from the scotch-irish, who settled in Virginia, then moved through the Carolinas, then wound up in Alabama and Florida.
The physical characteristics I have are shovel teeth, reddish hair, the ridge on the back of my skull, high cheekbones, wide face and hooded eyes.
I've always been told there was indian, but was never told about whom or from when or where. I dug through my ancestry profile and turned up a couple of surnames that I saw on some melungeon surnames list, from as far back as the 1600s. How would I find out, for sure, without a DNA test, because I don't want to take that?
I read last year - I can't remember the exact site - the possibility that Abraham Lincoln may have Melungeon ancestors - I guess because Kentucky. Have you heard anything about this? It would be rather cool to have a famous man among your roots.
I did a video on him! People claimed he was "Black" (which is what I covered) but the more I read, I think Melungeon is more likely
Dwight d Eisenhower was melungeon too. Been doing this for years.
Maiden name is Williams and i have that also yes 🙌🏽
Williams Family of Hancock Co., TN goes back 200 years as Melungeon.
Im from Mississippi born so that maybe family also mines
So yeah i have connections in Tennessee Ron
Another Melungeon woman stated she had Filipino,but where would the Melungeons get the S.E. Asian from ?
Cajun on my mom,melungen on my dad. Proud mutt...kinda
I have definitely heard that there is an Hispanic connection for the Melongeon community.
The Spanish and Portugues ( Iberian) pirates , explorers etc who were present in the vast area of the Louisiana purchase are probably ancestors of this community who settled in the Appalachian states of the US in the early 17 and 1800's.
My daddy’s redbone and my mom is melungeon.
This makes me wonder about my father. He claimed there was Cherokee blood in his family tree! He is from Texas, and I wonder if there is a chance there is Melungeon blood mixed in there.
What is Melungeon blood?
What is mulatto blood?
What is a mixed raced blood? Lol
Almost everyone is mixed , if that helps you.
Melungeon was a term to describe certain mixed race people like tiger wood for example, if it was today ... Him and his kids would be Melungeon
There's yellow bone like in the case of Megan Markle for example
Red bone in the case of Beyonce
Creole in terms of Tina Knowles
Passing as white in terms of Jessica alba's kids
Mixed in terms of Stephen curry
I hope this helps you in understanding what the different word signified and how they were used in the context of completion
It's not an ethnic group or tribe per say , but more on the culture of what made the various distinction of the then mixed race community
And they're not related, they come from the various racial groups on earth
Bound together in a community by how they looked and nothing more
Today Melungeon doesn't exist in terms of continuation and labeling of race or ethnicity
People keeping that word alive is just more on the history side of things
@@k-dwanks2481 People who had that in their ancestry tended to excuse their complexions with an explanation of Indian blood, which they felt was better than being of African descent. It is a sad fact of the times.
@@mind_of_a_darkhorse and they also fail to realize that this communities of people, lost their true identity or racial category
By being called Melungeon, redbone, yellowbone, colored etc
Instead of identifying them by their paternal line
And so today , we have this word, that is too broad to truly identify an individual race
And so even DNA ancestry could be making mistakes by bringing that category up
Labeling it Melungeon
Notwithstanding those talking about indian blood, fail to realize that there are indigenous Africans in India and most of the asian countries
Philippines etc today
Then they would be proud to have African ancestry and all the wonders that comes with it
If any American has the shovel shaped incisors, they most likely have Native American ancestry, or less likely, they could be East Asian. Are shovel shaped incisors found in a lot of Melungeons, I know they are a mixed ethnic group?
Yes, many Melungeons do have shovel teeth. I have them myself, and I have
both Indian and Melungeon ancestry.
I have shovel shaped incisors and some distant NA ancestry. Also look at fingerprints. the whorl pattern is more common for NA and East Asian ancestry. 7 of my fingers have this fingerprint pattern. I thought this might have come from Turkic sources on my dad's side, but my mother had 8 of her fingers with the whorl pattern and the shovel teeth. Don't know if my dad did, though... he lost his front teeth as a kid in a street hockey mishap. He had a bridge. :D
Funny thing, a friend was my dentist for a while. He asked me about Native American ancestry. I knew there was supposed to be some in the family. He said my teeth were Native American. The Native American showed up in my brother's DNA test but not mine. However, there are a number of Natives in the Pittsburgh area, and when I run into them I get asked what's my tribe. My brother doesn't look Native at all. My sister looks more Native American than I do.
We have been able to discover that our family was free by the year 1630 for sure. Family story says we are the first Blacks to arrive in Jamestown in 1619 who were indentured rather than enslaved. This we were never slaves.
It looks like your guest is a Star Wars fan or at least her husband!
I’ve got the bump on the back of the head wow my my family is from Kentucky but originally from Virginia and now in Louisiana and Texas and the first documented trace of them was 1650
Soooo, was watching The Price Is Right and a contestant was called up. Her last name was Melungeon. Nope. Could not look at her and have a clue of her ethnicity. I went to college in Arkansas with a Gibson who could be described as a Redbone. I know people with all of these names. One of my students in NC was Lumbee.
I am a descendant of the Walden, Goins, Chavis, and Gibson families
Well hello, cousin!
Goins, Chavis, Gibson
@@nytn I had no idea that the families moved from Virginia to North Carolina where most of us still are. I’ve found so much information and family history
@@nytn ua-cam.com/video/V6TwaDLgCW0/v-deo.htmlsi=FHMWPgC2TafL-hAU
Information about the Walden and Goins families and my great great grandparents and lumbee history
@@nytnhello I hope that all is well
Your guest explained it perfectly, hopefully you understand what she said
To rewind it
Melungeon is a mixed raced person, multi ethnic
Black, white, asian etc
Because the way they were treated they lived in the same community, inter married and moved together
Simple and straight forward
Secondly neither of you are Melungeon but its part of your heritage and DNA ancestry
Just like neither of you are black or asian but it can be part of your dna make-up
You're Caucasians
That's exactly what I mean. She's at the center of all relations.
Have you ever looked into the negroid phenotypes of indigenous people that the European explorers saw on the East Coast and parts of the Caribbean? Also, it is true that the racial integrity act did change the game froma tribal standpoint. A lot of these groups and tribes today are just an amalgamation of black and white based on historical readings at this point. Yes, you will also find more of the Mongoloid phenotype on the West Coast, but again just a question. So, any thoughts???
Many mongoloid types still on the East Coast. Blacks probably came with early explorers
Danielle, I thought I was in this alone in the past. Having identity issues. When I took my DNA test, 82.1% tests southern European (Spain and Portugal). 9% indigenous American, 7.1% sub Saharan African. Don’t you think there are changes to be made in the census’s form to fill out by people like us? I’ve been asked, are you white or black? I’m just me. But have always thought that I don’t fit in any of the categories we know.
You sound like us, Americans with a very american (and pre american) family story!
@@nytn Thank you!
Why charge a membership fee, What is the membership fee used for?, found no mention of what this nonprofit does, it’s work, purpose etc.
For what? Sorry not sure what you’re referring to:)
@@nytn Simply asking what the organization does with the $15.00 annual membership dues?
My granddad was brown skin with hazel green eyes and he passed those hazel eyes to my aunt who had hazel brown and few of my cousins
My Great Grandmother Barbara Bunch was a Melungeon from Eastern Tennessee. Dad used to tell me that she was so dark skinned person that she was almost a black person.
I knew Barbara Bunch a daughter of Henry Bunch. She was just black enough
to be beautiful, and she sang just like an angel. Her voice could bring tears to
the eyes of the most hardened soul.
@@ronwinkles2601 thank you Ron.
What mystery? Sounds to me that the term sounds like it could be derived from or related to the word melanin, which is usually related to who we now call Black people, which would be why it was considered derogatory, and why they were "dark", and why the effort to whiten the group was made.
My maternal family where originally from the Canary Islands, and all my aunts and uncles were different colored complexes. My grandfather was light skin and light eyes while my grandmother was darker.
When the Spanish discovered and colonized the Canary Islands, they were occupied by a Berber/Amazight type off people that were isolated from North Africa for a long time! The Spanish mixed with them- so the modern Canary Islander is mostly Spanish with various %'s of Guanche DNA- I think sometimes as high as 14- 35 %. The Guanches were described by the Spanish as tall and fair complected!