As a huge history nerd who is also heavily involved in Scouting, I love this video so much. I talk about history - both of Scouting and of our Pack - quite often, and actually just gave a speech about it at our Blue and Gold this year. Our Pack has been chartered by the same CO for 62 years, and our affiliated Troop has been there for 109. Something we're all super proud of!
Someone once wrote Sir Robert Baden- Powell, asking how his last name should be pronounced. His response: “Man, matron, maiden, Please call it Baden. Further for Powell, Rhyme it with Noel B.-P. Your Friend.” “Hitchin’ Rack”, Boy’s Life, August 1971, p. 12 I am given to understand that "Noel" is meant to be Noel as in the name of the English playwright and actor Noel (rhymes with “soul”) Coward, not "no-el" like the French Christmas greeting. So while BAY-dun POW-el may be the common pronunciation in the USA, if you are a stickler for getting folks' names right, it would be more proper to say BAY-den POHL.
I remember a man who was from England who had fought in WW2. He was very involved with the Scouts in England after the war. He gave us the same history you are on this video. Head a thick photo album with pictures of him and the other men as well as a half dozen teenage boys around 13-15. This was on the ground and the boys were attached to his unit. They wore the se uniforms and we're issued the same kit including steel helmets minus an Enfield rifle and ammo. They were trained on the Enfield rifle like the men in basic. They were radio operators, helped with chow and cleaned around campus well as being runners. Basically, they were Boy Scouts at war. We were fascinated by this. By then the BSA here in the US had been going strong for over 30 years. We didn't use boys in war, but there were volunteers with Civil Defense, etc during WW2. This is how I remember it being that this was 42 years ago and I'm getting old. That's s old gentleman was in his early 70s maybe. Can you substantiate this at all?
There are a lot of photographs from that time of victory gardens, and scrap collections that the scouts were involved in. The Air Scouts did a lot of Civil Defense observation stuff during the war. The federal charter restricts the BSA from doing military activities. Every activity is civilian-based even today. YIS⚜
I'm not sure what happened to the history of our troop. The city wanted the property and demolished out meeting hall. They meet elsewhere now. So many great memories at scout hall, the old 60's GMC bus (already 20 yrs old) trips to camp, Disneyland, musty tents etc. The bus burned while being stored at a farm.
*_“History is the memories of the survivors. Hopefully, the good memories will last longer.”_* - I think that was Winston Churchill who said that, but he said so many great quotes. YIS⚜
I have been told in the past that we had over 9 Sea Scout units in the Council. My district is in East Orlando (Colonial District) and has no Sea Scouts units. YIS⚜
@@ScouterStan thank you, hopefully some folks l get on board” and start Ships again! I made Quartermaster when it was Sea Exploring and my daughter made QM after it went back to Sea Scouts. The program did not change throughout the changes in labels etc.
So glad you like the videos. The videos for the past few seasons have been uploaded in HD (1920 X 1080). UA-cam loads the uploaded MP4 first. Then an SD copy of the video is decompressed. Later (within an hour) the full HD copy is loaded. Video production is recorded in batches and uploaded days before the public viewing date, so getting only an SD copy is not an issue. Click the Settings icon and check the Quality settings. The default is Auto, but users can manually set this to different qualities. Video quality is dependent on several factors. Download rate, Location, and device. Mobel viewers will always have a lower quality video than computers at home. (Sory, old IT person here…) I just wanted you to enjoy the videos even more. I hope you work out the HD issue and keep watching. Thanks YIS⚜
@Todd Modgling : Thank you for joining in on the live chat Sunday night. Unfortunately, I missed your question about OA Representative. The good thing is that I have put it on the video schedule for Season 8 next year. Please email me if you have questions. Thanks for the video suggestion. YIB⚜
Hey Steve Got a question..........Legend has it that the first 2 boy scout troops in the US was troop 31 on the east coast and my old troop 32 on the west coast. I heard that story many times by the old timers and one of our sponsors who we called grandad was in troop 32 himself.
That might be true. There were many youth units formed before the BSA recognized them or even existed. Most of the original units were either Woodcraft Indians (east-coast) or Sons of Daniel Boone (west-coast) that converted over to a BSA Troop. This was for a short 8 years (1902-1910) and very little documentation survives today. YIS⚜
I'm surprised scouting history hasn't been made into a movie or a high budget documentary show that would be awesome and I'd buy a Netflix subscription just to watch it 😂
This video just touches on the top historical points. Lots of twists & turns and millions of side stories. Netflix and Hulu need to look into it. LOL YIS⚜
What triggers me is you have your neckerchief under your collar when you’re supposed to wear over your collar you should know that I’m an Eagle Scout and so are you?
Thank you so much for the question. In the United States, it is common for the scarf to be worn under the collar. In many other countries, the scarf is over the collar. The Insignia web guide of 2023 (BSA#33066) on page 35 clearly shows the image of the scarf being worn by an Eagle Scout under the collar. There was a time in the United States when the shirt was made without a collar. Since the rebranding in the 1980s collarless shirts, have not been available in the current uniform. It's always nice to chat with a fellow Eagle Scout. YIS⚜
As a huge history nerd who is also heavily involved in Scouting, I love this video so much. I talk about history - both of Scouting and of our Pack - quite often, and actually just gave a speech about it at our Blue and Gold this year. Our Pack has been chartered by the same CO for 62 years, and our affiliated Troop has been there for 109. Something we're all super proud of!
That’s wonderful. Keep the Scouting spirit alive through history. YIS⚜
Someone once wrote Sir Robert Baden- Powell, asking how his last name should be pronounced. His response:
“Man, matron, maiden,
Please call it Baden.
Further for Powell,
Rhyme it with Noel
B.-P.
Your Friend.”
“Hitchin’ Rack”, Boy’s Life, August 1971, p. 12
I am given to understand that "Noel" is meant to be Noel as in the name of the English playwright and actor Noel (rhymes with “soul”) Coward, not "no-el" like the French Christmas greeting.
So while BAY-dun POW-el may be the common pronunciation in the USA, if you are a stickler for getting folks' names right, it would be more proper to say BAY-den POHL.
Could you possibly do a video on tips/advice for new SM's/ASM's?
Excellent suggestion! I have put that on the season 7 whiteboard. If you have any notes please email them in. Thank you so much. YIS⚜
I remember a man who was from England who had fought in WW2. He was very involved with the Scouts in England after the war. He gave us the same history you are on this video. Head a thick photo album with pictures of him and the other men as well as a half dozen teenage boys around 13-15. This was on the ground and the boys were attached to his unit. They wore the se uniforms and we're issued the same kit including steel helmets minus an Enfield rifle and ammo. They were trained on the Enfield rifle like the men in basic. They were radio operators, helped with chow and cleaned around campus well as being runners. Basically, they were Boy Scouts at war. We were fascinated by this. By then the BSA here in the US had been going strong for over 30 years. We didn't use boys in war, but there were volunteers with Civil Defense, etc during WW2. This is how I remember it being that this was 42 years ago and I'm getting old. That's s old gentleman was in his early 70s maybe. Can you substantiate this at all?
There are a lot of photographs from that time of victory gardens, and scrap collections that the scouts were involved in. The Air Scouts did a lot of Civil Defense observation stuff during the war. The federal charter restricts the BSA from doing military activities. Every activity is civilian-based even today. YIS⚜
@@ScouterStan Right. This was probably young enlisted non combatants, juvenile delinquency or homeless boys serving by order of the system in England.
I'm not sure what happened to the history of our troop. The city wanted the property and demolished out meeting hall. They meet elsewhere now. So many great memories at scout hall, the old 60's GMC bus (already 20 yrs old) trips to camp, Disneyland, musty tents etc. The bus burned while being stored at a farm.
*_“History is the memories of the survivors. Hopefully, the good memories will last longer.”_* - I think that was Winston Churchill who said that, but he said so many great quotes. YIS⚜
Hello & thank you from southeast Kentucky
Our OA is Unami Lodge 1. There is a reproduction of the ceremonial grounds at Summit Bechtel Reserve.
That sounds amazing. I need to go see that. Thank you. YIS⚜
By the way, great video and content.
Glad you enjoyed it! YIS⚜
Hi Stan, Do you have a Ship in your Council and where are you located? Just curious.
I have been told in the past that we had over 9 Sea Scout units in the Council. My district is in East Orlando (Colonial District) and has no Sea Scouts units. YIS⚜
@@ScouterStan thank you, hopefully some folks l get on board” and start Ships again! I made Quartermaster when it was Sea Exploring and my daughter made QM after it went back to Sea Scouts. The program did not change throughout the changes in labels etc.
Love your videos. Did you change your video quality? It won’t let me go past 380. Keep up the good work.
So glad you like the videos. The videos for the past few seasons have been uploaded in HD (1920 X 1080). UA-cam loads the uploaded MP4 first. Then an SD copy of the video is decompressed. Later (within an hour) the full HD copy is loaded. Video production is recorded in batches and uploaded days before the public viewing date, so getting only an SD copy is not an issue. Click the Settings icon and check the Quality settings. The default is Auto, but users can manually set this to different qualities. Video quality is dependent on several factors. Download rate, Location, and device. Mobel viewers will always have a lower quality video than computers at home. (Sory, old IT person here…) I just wanted you to enjoy the videos even more. I hope you work out the HD issue and keep watching. Thanks YIS⚜
@Todd Modgling : Thank you for joining in on the live chat Sunday night. Unfortunately, I missed your question about OA Representative. The good thing is that I have put it on the video schedule for Season 8 next year. Please email me if you have questions. Thanks for the video suggestion. YIB⚜
Hey Steve
Got a question..........Legend has it that the first 2 boy scout troops in the US was troop 31 on the east coast and my old troop 32 on the west coast. I heard that story many times by the old timers and one of our sponsors who we called grandad was in troop 32 himself.
That might be true. There were many youth units formed before the BSA recognized them or even existed. Most of the original units were either Woodcraft Indians (east-coast) or Sons of Daniel Boone (west-coast) that converted over to a BSA Troop. This was for a short 8 years (1902-1910) and very little documentation survives today. YIS⚜
Troop 3 is the first Troop formed in San Francisco. We think T1 & 2 were in Los Angeles as the Troop history records these were boy formed Troops.
I'm surprised scouting history hasn't been made into a movie or a high budget documentary show that would be awesome and I'd buy a Netflix subscription just to watch it 😂
This video just touches on the top historical points. Lots of twists & turns and millions of side stories. Netflix and Hulu need to look into it. LOL YIS⚜
What triggers me is you have your neckerchief under your collar when you’re supposed to wear over your collar you should know that I’m an Eagle Scout and so are you?
Thank you so much for the question. In the United States, it is common for the scarf to be worn under the collar. In many other countries, the scarf is over the collar. The Insignia web guide of 2023 (BSA#33066) on page 35 clearly shows the image of the scarf being worn by an Eagle Scout under the collar. There was a time in the United States when the shirt was made without a collar. Since the rebranding in the 1980s collarless shirts, have not been available in the current uniform. It's always nice to chat with a fellow Eagle Scout. YIS⚜