Hashirama's Son Was STRONGER Than Naruto?!

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  • @I_am_MaX_Frost
    @I_am_MaX_Frost 2 роки тому +397

    The easiest and most plausible answer is that Kishimoto didn't even think about Tsunade's parents. He just had a simple time lines thought like: "Mmh... Can't make her daughter of Hashirama, that would make her too old. She'll be his granddaughter. Done, problem solved."

    • @greatikechukwu4032
      @greatikechukwu4032 2 роки тому +25

      Absolutely. LoL 😂😂😂😂👍👍

    • @nichendrix
      @nichendrix Рік тому +10

      Exactly like that lol

    • @nichendrix
      @nichendrix Рік тому +26

      There are a lot that wasn't planned ahead on Narutoverse, I'm watching over the entire anime again, because I'm presenting the series to the next generation. It is clear that I. The beginning MI ato wasn't going to be Naruto's father, that Hashirama and Tobirama Senju were meant to be weaker Tha. Sarutobi, that Shisui and Izuna were never meant to have the Mangekyo Sharingan (Itachi clearly states that he was the third person ever to awaken the Mangekyo Sharingan), and that Madara wasn't to be such a big deal until Kishimoto started planning the Sasuke's defection to Orochimaru and his fight with Naruto. Indra and Asura and the whole Sage of the Six Paths story arc wasn't even in the picture until they needed an even step ger doujutsu than the Mangekyo Sharingan, and the EMS was essentially a hushed up idea for Itachi to have a noble death because he was uber popular, also for Sasuke no not go blind for nothing other than achieving his revenge, because he was also uber popular too.

    • @sazude2
      @sazude2 Рік тому +14

      @@nichendrix I like the idea of this, if only the grammar and punctuation were better in this post.

    • @mcfletchin
      @mcfletchin Рік тому +5

      Yeah, he shoulve just said she was his granddaughter, she never met him and her parents died in one of the wars.

  • @AzA609
    @AzA609 2 роки тому +569

    It's pretty sad that so much incredibly high level ninja died off camera. All that potential gone, just like that. People really underestimate the tragedy of war. Other examples of strong ninja dying off camera due to war are Jiraiya's parents, Orochimaru's parents, Minato's entire clan, every Uzumaki we haven't seen, Kakashi and Guy's mothers, Lee's parents (not confirmed dead but all evidence leads to Lee being another orphan), Kagami Uchiha, Kagami's children (who are also Shiui Uchiha's parent) and Sasuke Sarutobi (Hiruzen's dad and a legendary ninja).

    • @AzA609
      @AzA609 2 роки тому +38

      Other strong dead ninja are Jiraiya's other two students, who were trained alongside Minato. A common misconception is that those two ninja were Sasuke's mom and Teuchi (ramen man). This is wrong because both of those characters are older than Minato. Since those two teammates are never mentioned by Jiraiya, it is more than likely that they died very young, since during Minato's childhood war was constantly ongoing and children were sent to the battlefield to fight. Every ninja has lost a lot of friends to war.
      My guess is that Minato's teammates were one Hyuga and one Sarutobi because the Hyuga have dark coloured hair and lower branch Hyuga members like Neji cover their forehead to hide their Byakugan seal, which the teammate has dark hair and covers his forehead with bandages. The Sarutobi teammate has similar clothing to young Hiruzen and has brown skin like Hiruzen and Asuma. My evidence is not the most reliable but it's the best I can solve using the little info we have.

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 2 роки тому +19

      @@AzA609 but if one of Minato's teammates were a Hyuga, they would also have white eyes

    • @declanlee6894
      @declanlee6894 2 роки тому +6

      It seems like this would make for a great spin off series

    • @klmitchell5486
      @klmitchell5486 2 роки тому +13

      I completely understand that writers hits a wall against right or block because you notice it throughout the manga how certain stories are rushed. But you would think with the popularity of Naruto they will start writing the backstory leading up to naruto. Yes we got the flashbacks but actually do a whole series like they did with Phantom Menace, Clone Wars, Revenge of the Sith.

    • @AzA609
      @AzA609 2 роки тому +11

      @@quentinjones6877 Not all Byakugan users have white eyes. Naruto's daughter Himawari has normal eyes (blue like Naruto) but she can use the Byakugan. Imagine if the Hyuga elders tried to seal Himawari's eyes with death seal like with Neji. Naruto would rage and tear them a new butthole 😅. It's good he changed Hinata's dad into a loving grandparent, instead of the cold father he was to Hinata. Hinata became a ninja because her dad saw her as a failure and told Kurenai that he didn't care if Hinata died in battle.

  • @Arthur-ek7nd
    @Arthur-ek7nd 2 роки тому +522

    I like the idea that this mystery child just decided to live a normal life in the village and not become a shinobi. It would explain why they aren't mentioned at all, and it would fit Hashirama's dream of creating a place where hcildren didn't need to go to war.

    • @NCHammer23
      @NCHammer23  2 роки тому +120

      It makes sense, but if they were alive it just doesn’t sit right with me we’d never see them, like we met sakuras parents who arent shinobi

    • @CXTGod_Shinobi
      @CXTGod_Shinobi 2 роки тому +16

      @@NCHammer23 I agree that just makes sense.

    • @milksolveseverything3798
      @milksolveseverything3798 2 роки тому +77

      @@NCHammer23 what if his son is ramen guy

    • @azureascendant994
      @azureascendant994 2 роки тому +30

      @@milksolveseverything3798 That would be hilarious.

    • @brandonstewart4032
      @brandonstewart4032 Рік тому +1

      I'm waiting for the next hashirama child video. That would be awesome right❗❓👍

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +294

    Us trying to figure out who Hashirama's child is, is like trying to find out who is Tsunade's parents.

    • @AD-ol3wv
      @AD-ol3wv 2 роки тому +40

      I see why you’re known as “The Spammer”

    • @sXsKidd
      @sXsKidd 2 роки тому

      The fuck is this stupid sentance?

    • @cruzuballe8110
      @cruzuballe8110 2 роки тому +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @akramtulla28
      @akramtulla28 2 роки тому +4

      @@AD-ol3wv for real lol it seems redundant posting is in

    • @TheAlphatitan
      @TheAlphatitan 2 роки тому +1

      😂

  • @Migmac22
    @Migmac22 2 роки тому +205

    The fact this man can make a 20 min video over a character that was never really discussed is pretty impressive.

    • @00axdam
      @00axdam 2 роки тому +12

      Fr this man is somethin else

    • @NCHammer23
      @NCHammer23  2 роки тому +44

      We can piece together theories with the info we have! It’s the scientific process

    • @Migmac22
      @Migmac22 2 роки тому +3

      Naruto theory 101

    • @dakotashomaker8812
      @dakotashomaker8812 Рік тому +4

      When you cling to Narutos sack because Boruto sucks. 🤣

    • @markcruz8952
      @markcruz8952 Рік тому +1

      @@NCHammer23 still you are one of best...fan here bro..

  • @JaNoodGamer
    @JaNoodGamer 2 роки тому +189

    I really think they should've made a Naruto Series: Naruto The Beginning. Detailing everything before the Naruto and Shippuden timeline instead of Boruto.

    • @opinanlosjovenesrd3477
      @opinanlosjovenesrd3477 2 роки тому +10

      Yes, let's get it done. Let's start a petition.

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed, I've been saying that for a while

    • @lukajovanovic397
      @lukajovanovic397 2 роки тому +4

      @@quentinjones6877 that would be amazing like telling all the things we dont have answer to like how did hashirama die he was a god of shinobi and died of old age and i dont believe it

    • @trey1215
      @trey1215 2 роки тому +5

      This shows why I say the Naruto fandom is toxic.....

    • @JaNoodGamer
      @JaNoodGamer 2 роки тому +12

      @@trey1215 Well I can speak for myself. I'm not toxic towards Boruto anime. I'm just saying I would've like to see a good back story to Naruto before the futuristic take that's in Boruto. There's so much characters and information that wasn't covered. That's just my take.

  • @XGoken
    @XGoken 2 роки тому +90

    Hearing the potential of being overpowered thanks to both Senju and Uzumaki blood would’ve made Tsunade sooo much more interesting and badass; in fact, fleshing out the lore and world building behind the bloodlines would’ve made the series so much better as well as a whole

    • @richardanderson6531
      @richardanderson6531 Рік тому

      So would Minato be Tsunade uncle making Tsunade the great aunt of Naruto. Despite Naruto calling her grandma Tsunade . Guess he wasn't to far off

    • @sazude2
      @sazude2 Рік тому +2

      I mean, that's a part of the reason why she is powrrful on her own right. So she already is kinda badass and she is already an interesting character.

  • @marcusfrazier4923
    @marcusfrazier4923 2 роки тому +11

    @15:30 - That "Everyone here is dead LOL" while showing the first Kage Summit killed me 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom 2 роки тому +97

    Mito being an Uzumaki and also having a strength of a hundred seal is just purely fucking terrifying

    • @serenadesilhout
      @serenadesilhout 2 роки тому +35

      Plus she was a jinchuriki. If she was trained to be a Shinobi she’d be terrifying

    • @adainjarrio
      @adainjarrio 2 роки тому +5

      She doesn't have the seal. She just has a mark on her forehead. Tsunade invented the technique.

    • @Beta-estBeta
      @Beta-estBeta 2 роки тому +16

      @@adainjarrio No, she didn't.

    • @andreacruz42069
      @andreacruz42069 2 роки тому +27

      @@adainjarrio did you not pay full attention to the video explaining where the Strength of 100 Seals originated from? It was originated from Hagaromo himself not Tsunade

    • @adainjarrio
      @adainjarrio 2 роки тому +4

      @@andreacruz42069 Did you not watch or read the series. They straight up say. Tsunade invented it.

  • @elrick44
    @elrick44 2 роки тому +12

    Actually when they were kids Tobirama had the exact same shade of hair as the blonde half of Itama's head (really made him look like Bakugou) so maybe blonde Senju are just a recessive trait

  • @renaldodagelinckx4055
    @renaldodagelinckx4055 2 роки тому +33

    Expectation: "Nick is literally going to tell us how Tsunade's dad is stronger than Naruto"
    Reality: "Video ends up being a Tsunade explanation on how she is Konoha royalty and said father wasn't there to raise her, nor telling us an inkling of his abilities"

  • @deathdanny134
    @deathdanny134 2 роки тому +29

    you know if madara had a daughter and hashirama had a son he could of made a rinnegan without all the fighting haha

    • @BigTymerz2009
      @BigTymerz2009 2 роки тому +8

      Madara: *surprised Pikachu face*

    • @jashaskarbarman
      @jashaskarbarman 2 роки тому

      Umm... No.. I don't think so

    • @deathdanny134
      @deathdanny134 2 роки тому +1

      @@jashaskarbarman i don't dee why not jaha powerful senju and Uchiha and it would of bridged peace between the village and Uchiha fully because that child would of more than likely been hokage bam black zetsu should of taken a more romantic approach to his plan haha

    • @jashaskarbarman
      @jashaskarbarman 2 роки тому

      No doubt the child will be strong.. Probably one of the strongest uchiha... But he/she won't get a rinnegan.. That's what I'm saying

    • @LealFireball
      @LealFireball 2 роки тому +2

      to reproduce hagoromo's rinnegan, you'd need to combine ashura and indra's chakra, just having senju and uchiha lineage isn't enough.

  • @meech6848
    @meech6848 2 роки тому +22

    I believe Tsunade and Hashirama, hell even Tobirama, have never spoken about her parents because she didn’t know them that long. Maybe they died shortly after her brother was born. I say this because of how Hashirama jokes about how she took after him with the gambling and all. He had to parent her and her brother until he died. Just a quick guess off the top lol

  • @samsunglg6671
    @samsunglg6671 2 роки тому +5

    That's so true, regarding the blond hair of Tsunade and the way Senjus married outside of their clan might've been it.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +44

    If Hashirama had a son, then I'm guessing Tsunade's mom has blonde hair.

  • @mairelbaz3962
    @mairelbaz3962 Рік тому +22

    "Hashirama only had eyes for Madara." I swear that made me laugh so hard and the funny part is how true that statement was. lol

  • @KnuttyEntertainment
    @KnuttyEntertainment 2 роки тому +48

    I don’t think it’s possible that Tsunade’s mother was a Yamanaka, especially seeing as Tsunade doesn’t seem to exhibit any of their traits beyond blonde hair, which is likely a recessive Senju gene. I would expect something more. The idea that Kakashi’s mother was an Inuzuka for example is much more believable.
    However, the biggest reason why Tsunade can’t have a Yamanaka mother is her eyes. Senju, Uzumaki, and Yamanaka, all have pupil-less eyes. Hashirama *might* have pupils that just blend in with his dark brown irises, but I find that unlikely, as all his family members also lack pupils. He does have pupils in sage mode, which turns his eyes golden though. But seeing that sage Naruto and Kabuto also get gold toad/snake eyes, I find that also unlikely. Even curse mark Sasuke has the same golden eyes when he’s normally pupil-less. Tsunade does not pupil-less eyes. In fact, she has some of the most prominent irises in the series, and I don’t think you’d get that color from a Senju/Uzumaki/Yamanaka mix. You definitely could from a Namikaze, Minato and Naruto’s eyes and hair seem very dominant through multiple generations, even in Himawari. Though I’m not sure the Namikaze are a clan, it’s likely just a family name like Haruno.

    • @SnowxXxAngel
      @SnowxXxAngel 2 роки тому +3

      I'm sorry, what? Kushina has pupils in her eyes... Nagato we can't really tell since he awakened the Rinnegan. Karin doesn't though....
      As for Mito and Sasuke, they aren't pupil-less... their eyes are just dark so the pupil blends in.
      That's like saying that because someones eye color is black, they don't have pupils. How does that make sense? Sorry if that came out rude, but saying that someone, a character or otherwise, doesn't have pupils because of a dark eye color is silly. Maybe a majority of those clans have pupil-less eyes, but not necessarily all of them. Oh and pupil and irises are entirely different, did you mean pupils? nvm, you were actually talking about the color of her eyes....
      I do agree about the Yamanaka though, as they tend towards pupil-less eyes (Ino and Inoichi being prime examples).. So I am more inclined to think that she had a Namikaze mother (thus linking her to Minato as well as Kushina, even if only as cousins or something like that)

    • @silentwolfkills3924
      @silentwolfkills3924 Рік тому +1

      Tsunade’s Parents are a Senju and a Namikaze

    • @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
      @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Рік тому

      ​@@silentwolfkills3924 how tf do you know that?

    • @silentwolfkills3924
      @silentwolfkills3924 Рік тому

      @@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord it’s definitely not Yamanaka but I should’ve said in my comment I suspect she’s part Namikaze, the hair colour kinda seems like Namikaze so it’s just a suspection.
      We know Tsunade’s parent is a Senju either has red or black hair the other parent is blonde there’s not many blonde families or clans.
      If she was Yamanaka her her would be similar also she would use there jutsu but she has neither.
      Leading to suspect she could possibly be a Namikaze and her and Minato could shed light on more information on the Namikaze.

    • @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord
      @hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Рік тому

      @@silentwolfkills3924 my comment is still applies lol your talking nothing but pure head cannon.

  • @BlaxkSun
    @BlaxkSun 2 роки тому +55

    The hair thing is debatable. The half had of blonde hair is one thing but Tobirama also has light(white since childhood) hair, and even the guy behind him at 5:21 has blonde hair. It could be a Recessive trait. I myself am Dark but my mom is brown and dad is Lightskinned but my grandfather amd every one born in his generation are dark skinned

    • @TheDJ2000
      @TheDJ2000 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah putting that picture right there was not the move. I wouldn't have thought twice otherwise

    • @anakin9424
      @anakin9424 2 роки тому +3

      Well we don't know Tobirama and hashirama's mother so she might have white hair

    • @karinalitvinova2741
      @karinalitvinova2741 2 роки тому +8

      Since he has red eyes, he could also just be an albino

    • @MFShro0m
      @MFShro0m 2 роки тому +6

      This. Certain genes ‘skipping’ generations is very evident in my family too just not with skin tone

    • @emismpunk
      @emismpunk Рік тому +1

      I could definitely see lighter hair colors (especially blond) being a recessive trait for both Senju and Uzumaki.
      Brunette/dark hair being dominant in Senju and red dominant in Uzumaki.
      Yet, when you have these two clans with recessive blond genes that have children together or with someone who also has the genes, you’re very likely to get blond or lighter haired children.
      Tsunade, Naruto, Boruto, even Nawaki.
      Hey while we’re on that note. Since the Senju married out of their clan so much, Minato may indeed be one. Potential explaining his innate abilities and blond hair 😂. Always wondered how he figured out the flying thunder god technique. Maybe he learned it from dear old great grandpa Tobirama’s research.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +50

    When did Hashirama have time to spoil Tsunade? 😂

    • @assfuckerthejointpounder5834
      @assfuckerthejointpounder5834 2 роки тому +1

      Ninja gaiden 2 has no shadow clones, naruto has shadow clones

    • @MFShro0m
      @MFShro0m 2 роки тому +8

      He left his bookish lil brother to manage the village so he had plenty of time lol

    • @honeykiller66
      @honeykiller66 2 роки тому +2

      @@MFShro0m He died years before she was born XD

    • @honeykiller66
      @honeykiller66 2 роки тому

      @Leonardo yes, that's what doesn't make sense in Kishis messed up timeline. Hashirama died at the beginning of the first war, Tsunade was born during it. He should have been long dead. Like the fact that the Senju brothers combined were officially ruling over Konoha for over 30+ years, but it couldn't have been more than 10years.

    • @gcendo7376
      @gcendo7376 2 роки тому

      @@honeykiller66 no he has memories of her p8cking up his bad habits at such a young age

  • @LealFireball
    @LealFireball 2 роки тому +20

    There's one major problem about mito having tsunade's father while being kurama's jinchuriki with the same seal as kushina; if that happened, Tsunade would have two whisker-marks on each side of her face. So it was either a different seal or it didn't happen.

    • @greatikechukwu4032
      @greatikechukwu4032 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly... So that'll mean Tsunade's parents were born before Mito sealed Kurama in her...
      🤔🤔Unless there's a possibility that the Kurama mark doesn't enter grandchildren🧐🧐... Because there isn't any proof of this in Naruto, since we've only seen children of Nine-tails Jinchuriki... Excepting Tsunade and she doesn't have the whiskers...

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 2 роки тому

      @@greatikechukwu4032 the gold and silver brothers were born with whiskers.. it’s a trait from the sage of 6 paths..

    • @SirSkyro
      @SirSkyro 2 роки тому +4

      I thought they got them from eating kurama

    • @wildfirewill
      @wildfirewill 2 роки тому +2

      Perhaps, but the whisker would directly be on her Father's face not hers. Her parents are never shown. Once Boruto has kids if that is even a thing then we can judge.

    • @LealFireball
      @LealFireball 2 роки тому +2

      @@wildfirewill Mito would be in the same position as kushina if this theory was correct, her dad would be like naruto in this case, with three whiskers on each cheek. So she(and nawaki) would have two pairs of whiskers like boruto and himawari, which isn't the case.

  • @Paulter100
    @Paulter100 2 роки тому +10

    Is there ever a reason given as to why Naruto’s last name was Uzumaki and not Namikaze?

    • @kaiyrian1737
      @kaiyrian1737 2 роки тому +11

      Hiruzen had it changed so naruto couldn’t be linked with minato and therefore become a target of minatos enemies

    • @Esep16
      @Esep16 2 роки тому +5

      Yes. It was so he wasn’t hunted and assassinated for being the 4ths child. There might be more to it but that’s all I recall of rn

    • @clutch186
      @clutch186 2 роки тому +2

      @@Esep16 I’m still thinking why people ain’t target him cuz his last name is uzamaki and kushina was the only known uzamaki alive in the village and was known to be married to Minato if you had an iq of over 50 in the Naruto verse you could prob figure it out

    • @dariusscamander9358
      @dariusscamander9358 2 роки тому +2

      @@clutch186 kushina wasn't as renowned as Minato. Plus the Uzimaki clan has history with konaha, so many probably figured that one just stayed in the village and had a child.

    • @Rhekon
      @Rhekon 2 роки тому +2

      @@clutch186 no one was headhunting the remnants of the Uzumaki clan. They'd already traveled to and settled in various villages. This is loosely alluded to around the time of the kage summit.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +5

    There's a woman named Touka Senju.

  • @Violetawa
    @Violetawa 2 роки тому +4

    The other option for why Tsunade's parents aren't talked about is: some chakra disease killed them :P

  • @Zorkc
    @Zorkc 2 роки тому +16

    I’ve always wanted to know who hashirama son is

    • @josefrey2436
      @josefrey2436 2 роки тому +7

      It's Tsunade's father, obviously.

    • @pranav3151
      @pranav3151 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@josefrey2436 it's nawaki's father, duuh

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +22

    I wish we got a at least a name of Hashirama's child.

  • @arsenhere7020
    @arsenhere7020 2 роки тому +1

    hashiramas kid had to be overpowered. bro had the chains, wood style (probably), and ENORMOUS chakra reserves.

    • @gcendo7376
      @gcendo7376 2 роки тому

      The chain can be used by pure blood uzumakis meaning the ones with red hair or the girls only as nagato was shown not to use them but mito, kushina and karin all could do it and naruto can't

  • @turtle_combat
    @turtle_combat 2 роки тому +24

    This is something I've been wondering. You've alluded to the Ino-Shika-Cho clans moving in and beginning to work together only after the village's foundation. That gives each clan an average of like 5 years per patriarch before the start of the show. Doesn't it make more sense if those clans had an alliance originating hundreds of years before the village? Much of the village's land belongs to the Nara clan. You've obviously done so much more research, but I always took it that the village was built pretty much on top of the Sarutobi alliance very willing to ally with the Senju and Uchiha.

    • @dylanmerediths
      @dylanmerediths 2 роки тому

      Fabulous insight

    • @qualiswilliams7403
      @qualiswilliams7403 Рік тому +2

      Yeah this guy is wrong more than people call out but eh who cares still good content imo I'd rather watch him than Boruto

    • @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663
      @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663 Рік тому +1

      @@qualiswilliams7403 yeah, he does repeat incorrect facts several times (like saying that Tsunade and Sakura summoned 70% of Katsuyuu, but in the literal manga, it was mentioned to be 10%). But definitely better than Boruto.

  • @viictorl.v4645
    @viictorl.v4645 2 роки тому +4

    2:33 Kawarama Senju is one of Hashirama's brothers.
    5:00 Itama's was the same color as Tobirama's when they were young. Could've possibly been blonde, but the episodes didn't have a brighter color as they were all kind of light brown as some memory thing. Possible that he just had half brown and white hair. Or that Tobirama's hair got whiter as he got older.

  • @chrisundercover278
    @chrisundercover278 2 роки тому +2

    Good video may you reach 300k subs

  • @darkcylander
    @darkcylander 2 роки тому +1

    all manga/comic/show writers should have someone like you on staff making sure everything consistently makes sense.

  • @silentwolfkills3924
    @silentwolfkills3924 Рік тому +2

    Hashirama’s child was probably born Before konha was founded probably 11 years before konha was founded cause Hiruzen’s 8 when it’s founded and Tsunade is born when konha was 10 years old making Hiruzen 18 when she was born so her parents must be a little bit older than Hiruzen. Which means Mito and Hashirama met before Founding konha and had a kid or kids before they found konha.

  • @snackinspection
    @snackinspection 2 роки тому +3

    Question, do you think you'll ever cover Fairy Tail?

  • @chrispulido4167
    @chrispulido4167 2 роки тому +5

    This might sound stupid but what if Hashirama's son revolted against the village and either Hashirama and his son died fighting each other or Hashirama Killed him and out of remotion he committed suicide. That could explain why no one ever talks about Hashirama's son because he would be considered a traitor.

  • @TheArmaggadon
    @TheArmaggadon 2 роки тому +8

    Hey Nick, I like your theory about Tsunade's parents, but I had also seen your theory on Kakashi's parents. Have you considered the thought that maybe her mother is from another Village (hence the blonde hair) and perhaps one of the triggers to the skirmishes of who owns the children? like these are some powerful children, great asset, good reason for a war. Just throwing it out there 😅

  • @defleg
    @defleg 2 роки тому +4

    I don't think they ever considered developing Tsunade's father because it would have been perfect to reanimate him back during the 4th great ninja war. Or maybe he was so evil that his name is forbidden to mention.

  • @anthonylamonica8301
    @anthonylamonica8301 2 роки тому +30

    I somehow doubt that Hashirama's son was _stronger_ than Naruto. More skilled? Definitely, and I'd attribute that to the fact that he lived in a time where _everyone_ of teaching-age had _killed in mortal combat_ before, and that as the son of Hashirama, _everyone_ would feel obligated to help the lad be successful due to his potential. But in terms of power? Unlike his father, this kid was _not_ an Incarnation of Ashura, so that boost would not have been afforded him like it was to Naruto.

    • @r4vendusk
      @r4vendusk Рік тому +1

      Not that boost of power, no. But he would still be half Senju, half Uzumaki, with still living Uzumaki he could learn stuff from to utilize his massive chakra pool.

  • @newjerseyuchiha7184
    @newjerseyuchiha7184 2 роки тому +3

    His kid is Uzumaki and Senju

  • @ajrivers2571
    @ajrivers2571 2 роки тому +2

    What’s also sad is that Kishimoto focus so much on the history of the Uchihas that we really don’t know much about the Uzmakis. A lot of lost potential

  • @arturosalinas1723
    @arturosalinas1723 2 роки тому +2

    Naruto could’ve had a whole 2 season about the 1st , 2nd and 3rd Hokage leading all the way up to the ninja war

  • @elite4in1-legendsofruneterra
    @elite4in1-legendsofruneterra 2 роки тому +2

    The shimura clan always get forgotten when discussed In the foundation of Konoha

  • @taylormadealpha
    @taylormadealpha 2 роки тому +4

    In most cases yes the woman takes the mans last name. There is one instance of the opposite. Sai. Sai took Ino's last name and he and Inojin are known as Sai and Inojin Yamanaka. This to me says that the clan of most renown is who the clan the family enters. In Tsunade's case, whether her mother or father was Senju, the family would have entered the Senju clan. There are only a few clans that would "out rank" the Senju.

    • @khristiandejesus5947
      @khristiandejesus5947 2 роки тому +3

      im pretty sure sai took her last name because he really didnt have a last name or know his parents. Think about it, Sai is the name Danzo gave him as a cover since he was root and never used their names. As well as him being an orphan, he probably never knew his parents to begin with

    • @wendellwalter2865
      @wendellwalter2865 Рік тому

      in Naruto marriage works like in Japan, like Minato and Naruto adopting the Uzumaki surname from Kushina, the Yamanaka clan is one of the most important in Konoha

    • @khristiandejesus5947
      @khristiandejesus5947 Рік тому

      @@wendellwalter2865 you forget Sasuke keeping uchiha? Sarada uchiha?

    • @wendellwalter2865
      @wendellwalter2865 Рік тому

      @@khristiandejesus5947 the family adopts the most important and high ranking name out of the two, the Uchiha Clan is one of the most important in Konoha meanwhile the Haruno clan is not even named almost. clans like the Sarutobi, Uzumaki (after Naruto got recognized by the shinobi alliance and their name got cleared) , Hyuga or Uchiha would never lose their names to other clans.

    • @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663
      @scrollingdownonlytofindcom2663 Рік тому

      there are also more instances of this. Kushina and Mito are still referred to as being Uzumaki, they are never called Kushina Namikaze and Mito Senju respectively.

  • @9thhokagegoku671
    @9thhokagegoku671 2 роки тому +2

    We really need a light novel or something about these lost years between the from the founding of the hidden villiage through the third great shinobi war

  • @robbomegavlkafenryka6158
    @robbomegavlkafenryka6158 Рік тому

    5:20 Tobirama: I am going to pretend I didn’t hear that.

  • @MumenJR502
    @MumenJR502 Рік тому +1

    🤣 I'd like to think that Sunade's parents were the two old elders konoha advisers

  • @paradivision1362
    @paradivision1362 2 роки тому +2

    well done, another genius level video!

  • @metrostatistics9807
    @metrostatistics9807 2 роки тому +2

    My personal theory is that the reason no one has ever heard of him is that he just didn't become a ninja and either became a civilian or went into government work to support his father

  • @mohdazrikamarulbahrin5635
    @mohdazrikamarulbahrin5635 2 роки тому +1

    it does seems like tsunade's grandma is raising her and teaches the "100-seal" technique.
    because it was shown that hashirama's wife is still alive when kushina met her before kushina was made the next jinchuriki.

  • @dakotadearborn
    @dakotadearborn Рік тому

    As soon as he said Tsunade was probably raised by hired help and how can you tell . All I heard in my head was well gambling. Then started laughing

  • @Glizzyglizzy202
    @Glizzyglizzy202 2 роки тому +2

    I believe Hashirama didn't want his child to be a ninja but he was assassinated because he was the strongest villages child orrrr Hashirama adopted an orphan let him take on the Senju last name and that orphan had Tsunade and her brother. The orphan scenario also helps the timeline, the child would of been 13 or so.

  • @BlaxkSun
    @BlaxkSun 2 роки тому +1

    Hashirama kids are Tsunade’s parents… I have figured it out and will take my place as your leader 🤴🏿

  • @owemywifi
    @owemywifi 2 роки тому +2

    Good stream yesterday thank you

  • @Neku628
    @Neku628 Рік тому +1

    All we know about Hashirama's kid was that they were half Uzumaki/half Senju and they had two kids: Tsunade and Nawaki. I am wondering if he is going to point out the necklace that Nawaki wore when he was killed. I think I remember the necklace being used to seal the Nine Tails, Hashirama created the necklace (right), it got passed down to Naruto, and in one of the omake or whatever the specials was: the necklace was said to be cursed because whoever owned it died.
    13:38 But, couldn't Hashirama just have delayed aging because of his cells? I mean, he could be like Tsunade be around 70 years old but still look young.

  • @klmitchell5486
    @klmitchell5486 2 роки тому +1

    Let's be honest I'm not the only one who wants a prequel because I want to see that fight between Hanzo and the legendary Sanni from how it was described, they was all throwing some serious hands

  • @Hawkwood96
    @Hawkwood96 2 роки тому +3

    The woman in the photo could have been Mito. If she'd used her strength of a hundred seal prior to the photo, the mark might have disappeared for a time. And we don't know if Uzamaki's, with their greater lifespans, are capable of getting pregnant at a much older age than what is normally possible. So she might have been in her 80s or so when she got pregnant, which would make her in her early 100s at the time of the photo. Mito also doesn't appear in any of Tsunade's flashbacks. And though her hair looks brown in the picture, the photo looks tinted brown anyway, so everything is discolored.

    • @mikeblaze7424
      @mikeblaze7424 2 роки тому

      Mitos hair was red I’m pretty sure not brown

    • @Hawkwood96
      @Hawkwood96 2 роки тому

      @@mikeblaze7424 the photo is discolored though, unless I'm mistaken. Everything had that old-timey beige tint.

    • @azzkin9401
      @azzkin9401 2 роки тому

      Ok but the why does hashirama look young in that photo?

    • @Hawkwood96
      @Hawkwood96 2 роки тому

      @@azzkin9401 his regeneration powers? I always thought he'd look younger than his real age.

  • @HamGoingCam
    @HamGoingCam 2 роки тому +1

    Who were Tobiramas children since he clearly had a uchiha mistress he kept hidden from everyone. it all in my "Tobirama has had hidden uchiha babies theory" I'm working on

  • @jugadug
    @jugadug 2 роки тому +2

    Hashirama acknowledged that he spoiled Tsunade as his first grandchild may have spoiled his first son too and he became an average ninja if became a ninja, only hashirama could use wood release naturally therefore son did not inherit this that is a big drop in raw power

  • @osirisygo9870
    @osirisygo9870 Рік тому +2

    You don’t think that the old woman holding tsunade could be possibly hashirama’s mother? He probably wanted to show off his granddaughter to the earlier member of the Senju clan being that she doesn’t have much time left to live . Idk, just a theory

  • @bnb7272
    @bnb7272 2 роки тому

    15:09 I was waiting for him to say chakra sickness

  • @thesquirtlesquad8446
    @thesquirtlesquad8446 2 роки тому +1

    Even Konohamoru was raised by hired help, the honorary grandson

  • @user-ez4fk6tf6v
    @user-ez4fk6tf6v 2 роки тому +1

    That senju half Uzumaki kid would have had a target before he was even born considering his mom was also a tailed beast container AND a child of the Hokage it's impressive he made it passed the age of five.

  • @aardvarklancaster1783
    @aardvarklancaster1783 Рік тому +1

    3:19 Actually in East Asian culture a man of lower socioeconomic status would marry into his wife's family i.e. take his wife's lastname. So a daughter of Hashirama could have married an ordinary civillian, clanless shinobi, "lower in the pecking order" clanned shinobi.

  • @G-T-W
    @G-T-W 2 роки тому +1

    Been waiting for this one😭thanx nick

  • @prehistoricblackroast
    @prehistoricblackroast 2 роки тому

    9:13 No truer words have ever been spoken, Hashirama was a simp

  • @seansmellie8268
    @seansmellie8268 Рік тому

    Narut got his mothers last name. The child gets the most dominant last name, Nick.

  • @anakin9424
    @anakin9424 2 роки тому +8

    I don't think he would have been stronger than Naruto. Maybe relative to him, but he was definitely could have been op as hell. This guy was a mixture of senju and uzumaki, he probably could have been comparable to freaking ashura. Also day 4 of asking you for a you know nothing about Hinata Hyuga cause I do know nothing about Hinata Hyuga

  • @jonathanthorogood7377
    @jonathanthorogood7377 Рік тому +2

    What if Hashirama's son died in Uzushiogakure, during it's destruction? It wasn't until Hashirama died that Uzushiogakure was attacked, and I've heard that the Hidden Villages of the Great Nations came together to destroy them. What if Konoha was involved? What if, Tobirama was instrumental in the Village Hidden in Whirpools' destruction? Could Hashirama's son have been Madara-like? Embracing his Uzumaki roots (more than likely showing more Uzumaki talent, maybe he even had red hair), he could have taken control of the Whirpools after Uzumaki Ashina died, or maybe Hashirama's son ... killed him!? 🤔 This could be the reason why Hashirama's son, and details of Uzushiogakure, were erased from Konoha's history.

  • @r.a.panimefan2109
    @r.a.panimefan2109 2 роки тому +1

    I personally always liked the theory about tsunade being connected to the namakaze.
    Also the mitosis seal.
    Was directly implied in part 1 to be tsunades creation.
    I call retcon

    • @smashmaniac2008
      @smashmaniac2008 Рік тому

      Tsunade created Mitotic Rebirth not the Byakugo. Two different things.

  • @jackgonahieu4999
    @jackgonahieu4999 Рік тому +1

    18:22 i hate the retcon of the Byakugo seal, it could've been done better.

  • @illbusss
    @illbusss 2 роки тому +2

    Yo is there ever gonna be a Mei video? Wanna know about her more

  • @nvjaso
    @nvjaso Рік тому

    Kawarama is Hashirama’s first little brother that got killed before Itama. He has the same color hair similar to Tsunade and Nawaki

  • @enimekaj4847
    @enimekaj4847 2 роки тому +1

    Pls do if kakashi died or if jiraiya survived during the pain arc

  • @jaywzrd4795
    @jaywzrd4795 2 роки тому +1

    I would love to see a movie that depicts the first & second wars and see how all these kage died

  • @spliffsforbreakfast
    @spliffsforbreakfast Рік тому

    Imagine a universe where there’s some random super old Senju hidden who’s still alive and wants to revive the Senju Clan with evil intent using Hashirama Cells.

  • @ZeroToWealthRedistribution
    @ZeroToWealthRedistribution 2 роки тому

    Couch fell backwards on my second birthday and I remember almost all of life since.
    I don’t recommend it. I’m 30. And depression began at 4. ^^’

  • @Sebstep
    @Sebstep Рік тому

    That with the Firedaimyo in the end had me thinking...🤔

  • @RealNotFakellc
    @RealNotFakellc 5 місяців тому

    You are the goat the build up was insane on this one

  • @Psycoman2012
    @Psycoman2012 13 днів тому

    I thought from my reading that the Uzamaki and Senju clan alliance forged by Hashirama marrying into the family predated the formation of the ninja village. It's entirely possible that Hashirama's son was born many years before the alliance with the Uchiha, which would slim down the timeline again. Also, there's no reason to assume Tsunade's parents were 20 when she was born, they could easily have been 18 as well. There are lots of places to shave years back off the timeline.

  • @jaykknight2248
    @jaykknight2248 Рік тому

    Praying we get to actually see all the war eras in future releases

  • @spliffsforbreakfast
    @spliffsforbreakfast Рік тому +1

    Lol. You came with big “ _my fanfiction is better than yours_ “ energy

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +6

    Tsunade's 25% Uzumaki and between 25% - 75% Senju.

  • @cuthip
    @cuthip Рік тому +1

    Was it actually stated that Tsunade's name was Senju? I've only ever heard that she was Hashirama's granddaughter and people inferring that means her name was Senju too.

  • @jessysimwaka6031
    @jessysimwaka6031 2 роки тому +1

    Theory makes a lot of sense

  • @androiduser3895
    @androiduser3895 22 дні тому

    You can fix the timeline by making them teenage parents which makes them choose not to be ninja and possibly it gets leaked out and they're killed

  • @dkfreddi
    @dkfreddi Рік тому

    I believe in the Namikaze theory, and beyond that the other theory about Minato being Tsunade's abandoned child bc yes

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power 10 днів тому

    Kishimoto wrote himself into a corner here. He should just made Tsunade Harishama's daughter.

  • @grim1314
    @grim1314 2 роки тому +3

    Kawaki has that weird split hair thing going on maybe he is a Senju it makes sense both Hashirama’s Brother and Kawaki have that blood hair thing going on since so few characters have that maybe there’s a connection that also explains at least partially why he was the vessel him being at least partially Senju would make him a good choice also I don’t get the obsession with the whole Senju / Uzumaki hybrid thing it’s stated in the series that they frequently inter-Mcgoal and that some point they branched off from each other so realistically the whole hybrid thing is kind of a miss number also some characters just have random hair colours like Naori Uchiha she was the one who created Izanami and she had purple hair for some reason it’s also possible just like real life characters in the series die their hair

  • @Rhekon
    @Rhekon 2 роки тому

    "How many things do you remember from when you were 5?" I can still remember a bunch of things from 1996 lol

  • @shrimptube450
    @shrimptube450 Рік тому

    There's literally a blonde guy behind hashirama when he's talking about there being no blondes in the senju clan and tobirama is rocking full white

  • @tyreekteel3726
    @tyreekteel3726 Рік тому

    Minto got taht Dimond thing on her forhead

  • @CrowsquawkZ
    @CrowsquawkZ 2 роки тому +1

    Hey hammer could u pls maybe make a Naruto video on the beast that the head of the uzamaki sealed away I’ve tried to uncover some information about it but I’m afraid I haven’t rlly found anything if u could find some stuff I would rlly appreciate u making a video on it thx

  • @driverslineocsz4418
    @driverslineocsz4418 2 роки тому +4

    After watching this…I swear all of your vids make me think. Does this mean that the son of hashirama had a trace of kurama’s chakra? On top of that means so does tsunade to a certain extent. This video really puts a spin on everything. Also explains why keeping certain last names a secret like the Namikaze was adopted after Hashirama’s son got killed.

  • @reagenlionel
    @reagenlionel Рік тому

    Makes sense how Mito was there when fighting the nine tails. She wasn't just a sealer, but could get a massive power boost from the strength seal. Cause even hashirama would have trouble fighting the nine tails while also worrying about someone else.

  • @masonphipps298
    @masonphipps298 Рік тому +1

    In Naruto, the stronger clan name is passed to the child regardless of who the father is. This is how Naruto is known as a Uzumaki and not a Namikaze. The Namikaze clan is said to be strong, but its Minato is leagues above the rest.

  • @razishaikh6872
    @razishaikh6872 2 роки тому +1

    I really subscribe to mito theory that she raised tunade because we know she had a long life as she was the one who give kurama to khushina and she was just a kid and mito was very old

  • @ChasehaWing
    @ChasehaWing Рік тому +1

    I know this may sound crazy but... what if Hashirama's kid was not that impressive? Like maybe he had the potential to be, but he never put in the work and ended up squandering his gifts.
    If Hashirama spoiled his grand daughter, he might have spoiled his own kids in turn after losing the majority of his family and trying not to repeat the mistakes his own father made. That being turning each child into a weapon to be discarded, and instead cherishing each child he had to the point of coddling. Which made them in turn, horrible ninja.
    And it was not until after Hashirama and his son died, that whoever was in charge of caring for Tsunade and her brother finally treated them like future ninjas and made them serious about their training.

  • @smashmaniac2008
    @smashmaniac2008 Рік тому

    Calling it now: Hashirama is Tsunade’s dad just calls them grandchildren

  • @Flame-God
    @Flame-God 2 роки тому

    I love how the mystery person on the thumbnail is tobirama

  • @albertjrXI
    @albertjrXI Рік тому

    To be frank: ancient brides and pregnancies didn't happen at 20 years. Many civilizations, especially ones constantly at war, had children much younger. 18, 15, in extreme circumstances (though not this one) as soon as women could bear children.

  • @grimcaliber
    @grimcaliber 2 роки тому +1

    He would be the son of hasirama with the Uzumaki blood plus nine tails... he would be over powered. He still alive boruto era.

  • @driplord6150
    @driplord6150 2 роки тому +1

    You know what's funny , we had a debate about this